The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1052: Pete Unfiltered on the Blond in the Belly of the Beast Show

Episode Date: May 12, 2024

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I am Rebecca, Blon in the Belly of the Beast, and today I have Pete Cignonese. I'm ashamed to say that I am new to your content. I just discovered you recently through your interviews with Legal Man and E. Michael Jones. You've been doing your show since 2017. Oh, hold on. I'm getting an audio issue. You've been doing your show since 2017, but I heard you say that you've been on the scene for 25 years. So I am totally late to the game. I'm glad that I found you eventually.

Thank you so much for joining me today. I haven't really been on the scene for 25 years, but about 25 years ago, I started really looking into the people that aren't allowed to be named. Oh, go nuts. I don't care if I get banned. It's fine. Yes, I've been, I found the Institute for Historical Review in 1998. And I just started reading.

And I was like, oh, oh, growing up in New York and seeing that these people, thinking these people were very different from me than living in South Florida, which is like basically Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv America. I was like, wow, this, working for one for 15 years, I'm like, this is, yeah, these people are different. Then I found the I, I found the IHR and it was like, oh, then it was over. I was like, oh, okay, now everything just got to explain to me. And things start to fall into place.

I've been listening to your content for the last week. And one of the things that's interesting about your political transformation and so many of us. I hear the story over and over again. Is this penultimate stop at libertarianism, although mine was constitutional conservatism, which is arguably much stupor. But could we start by? I was an ANCAP.

That's much dumber. I don't know. I don't know. Could you discuss your political genesis a little bit and how you ended up with the level of clarity that you've achieved today? Well, like I said, back in 98, I really started looking into them. But then 9-11 happens.

Yeah. The internet wasn't what it was on 9-11. So you couldn't really do any research into loose change came out. That was, I recognize that that was full right from the start, that it was like a limited hangout kind of thing. So I didn't really know what was going on. Around 2007, I was watching the debates, the presidential debates. I saw Ron Paul on the stage, and he made a lot of sense.

He's like, and the Muslims are attacking us because we were bombing them for, you know, for a decade. And I'm like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah. And so I found out he was called himself a libertarian. I got one of his books, adventure the Mises Institute. And I just went down a rabbit hole of becoming a libertarian and eventually becoming an ANCAP. And I would say right around 2017, I don't know what, I just really wanted to do something. I wanted to contribute, and I started a podcast.

And people seemed to like my voice. And I think that was the first thing. Everybody was like, hey, you got a really good podcast voice. I'm like, okay. So I'll stick around a little bit, see what happens. And, yeah, a thousand and fifty one episodes later, I went through this huge transformation from like the hardcore narco-capitalist to whatever this thing I am now.

Yeah. But 2020 was the breaking point. I mean, 2020. Okay, so it was a little bit later than I thought. I knew that COVID had played a part in the libertarian philosophy, disbanding in your own mind, but what else contributed to kind of looking at that philosophy and being like, this is not applicable to society at large?

Well, libertarians always say that, you know, when, when tyranny comes, people will run to them for answers, because, hey, you know, we know why tyranny happens. No, they actually absolutely do not know why tyranny happens. So once I started studying other thinkers, found Curtis Jarvin, started reading the books that he recommended. And I found out, oh, this is just about power. And there's always going to be power. And I'm a part of a, I'm following an ideology that says that power is immoral and people who want to use it are immoral.

And now after 2020 and the summer of George, the election, January 6th, vaccines, these people sound like children. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to sound like a child anymore. So, you know, I've basically come to, I wrote this on my sub-sac this morning. People get together because they share a culture. the only purpose of politics is to make sure that that culture doesn't get subverted and get harmed. And you, it doesn't matter, I don't, you know, economics, okay, that's way in the back. All this other stuff is way in the back.

It's what are you willing to do? What are you prepared to do to make sure your culture doesn't get subverted to the point where you go from like a predominantly church-going culture? and then a hundred years later you have kids chopping their dicks and tits off and saying, hey, I'm a boy or I'm a girl when they're actually a boy or a girl. And I mean, and libertarianism did nothing. Libertarianism will say, oh, that's just the fault of the state.

That's the fault of the state. Exactly, yeah. Classical liberals will say, well, you know, we just need more liberty. Well, no, it's the fault. It's the fact that we had a culture. We allowed it to. be subverted. So now we're what? What would you even call this? I mean, like a nightmare,

like borderline starting to go down in Hellraiser. Let's just get the cube and start playing with it. And here comes pinhead. Absolutely. I think there's a lot to unpack with what you just said. So let's start with this concept of power. One of the things that I believe has been majorly detrimental to the advancement of right wing ideologies is the demonization of power or the idea that no system of government can be moral, irrespective of the philosophies of that government, if it's achieved through might. I've even heard some conservatives say that they'd rather wallow in this chaos than have a government that has ascended through means that they feel violate the constitution or their concept of natural rights, whatever. This is obviously retarded. When

devotion to principles is a hindrance to spreading those same principles, you're totally screwed, you're trapped in this circularity. Could you talk a little bit more about power? Do you think that power as a concept is morally neutral? Do you think that it's even a force for good? I mean, I think it can be a force for good. It can be a force for bad. It's morally neutral as far as I'm concerned.

The problem with ideology is basically the conservatism was sold a belief that, you know, small government, if you grow the government, it will only be used against you in the next election. Basically, they were sold democracy and they bought it hook, line, and sinker. Because what is it? They want to say, oh, we're a republic, not a democracy. What are you saying to me? You think I didn't go through the same school you did? I didn't go through the same curriculum you did.

You think I don't know that, but that doesn't exist in reality. I mean, I want to smack them in the mouth every time they say that. I mean, it's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, sure, but it's a democracy now. I mean, it is. I mean, maybe the presidential election is not a democracy because you still have the electoral college. That's why they, that's why people who, you know,

want to get rid of the electoral college. But power, idea, when you confuse morality with politics, I mean, there has to be some level of morality in your politics just because that's who, you know, that's your culture. If morality is not a part of your culture, you're dead. Right. But it's what are you willing to do to make sure that your culture, that your polity,

that your people don't get destroyed? And I'm willing to do anything to make sure that doesn't happen. And it's not an argument. I mean, that's the problem is everybody thinks, oh, if I just have the marketplace of ideas, the best ideas will win, the best ideas will win. The best idea is rule the day. What are you talking about? No, the propaganda will win.

I mean, it's just ideology is good on an individual level. If you want to have a good, you know, an ideology for how you run your home, how you do everything. That's fine. Ideology may be good for, you know, religion too. I mean, I think that sometimes religion just goes to the point where it's just like, well, I mean, what is, oh, I'm Protestant. We don't believe in the Pope. Yeah, but the Bible. your paper pope. You act like, you act like, oh, that's the final word on everything. Really? Okay. Well,

where's that got? You know, ideology is, should be something very, should be something very personal. Culture is the values you share. Where your rights came from. I don't believe in natural rights. I don't believe in God-given rights. I don't believe in any of that. I believe it rights are defined by where your culture came from. Where does a culture come from? Then you can point to something, because if you say God-given rights, then automatically they're completely universal. They apply to all the immigrants flowing over the border. They applied to the Vietnamese, so we have to go protect the Vietnamese because they have these God-given rights. No, fuck them. No, I don't care about the, I care about my people. Right. I care about my people. Yeah, this concept of natural rights

has torn apart, Enlightenment thinking in general is torn apart the right way. We talk about natural rights all the time in our podcast. And I did hear this discussion that you had on the concept of the Enlightenment theory that natural rights have bestowed on all individuals equally. And I've heard you say this and I've made this exact argument before. There are entire cultures, entire nations of sub-70 IQ people in this world that based on our legal system are defined as functionally retarded. They would be tried in the legal system as such in America. Do you think that an individual that is no ability to conceptualize natural rights still has them if the only form of governance that arises organically from their societies is based

on violence and theft and the worst kind of tribal nepotism? I mean, the freedom of association is probably the most important thing. I mean, everybody does it. Come on. Let's not pretend. here. You know, you, there are people you don't want your kids around. Of course. There are people you don't want to be around. How come when it comes to like buying a home next to you, then all of a sudden it's like, well, I mean, there's nothing I can do about it. I mean, there are some people in the South who knew what to do about it back in the day. They could send a message. I mean, where I live right now, that may have had, that might have happened where, you know, where I live

right now. But the whole idea that you can invite the third world. I mean, what is it, Somalia? The average IQ is 69? Is that who you want living next door to you? Yeah, it's 64 in Haiti. I think in Nepal, it's in the 50s. Yeah, somebody asked me the other day. They're like, I mean, they're like, come on, you know good black people that you wouldn't mind having as a neighbor. I'm like, yeah, I know some really nice black people that I wouldn't mind having as a neighbor. The problem is is their nephew Pookie comes. And then everything gets fucked up. Or, you know, what happens in black families?

Happens in white families too. But some more prominent black families, let's not present here. You know, something happens and someone goes to jail. And now the grandkids, the nephews, have to come live with your neighbor. Okay. What have they been learning? Right. Exactly.

How are these people going to? be able to control people who are, you know, who could possibly be criminals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You, the idea that you can't, that you wouldn't gatekeep your community and be like, I don't want that person in this community.

Let's do everything we can to make their life miserable. It's an insane thing. It's insane. I don't know why anybody would do that. And I think on the right, conservatives are failing miserably to counter signal these moral, demands by the left. It's been really pissing me off whether or not this whole fratboy Palestine protest was a Jewish sciop. It was. I was still infuriated by the reaction of the right

because I saw all sorts of people that I respect be like this kid, the main focus of their argument was like, this kid isn't racist because X, Y, Z. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Are we really still in this place where we're going to be trapped in this defensive position? People needed to be openly declaring the racism like decades ago or never stopped. This isn't a commentary on the morality of racism. It's important because it countersignals this demand from the left that no one bear. Any racist thought or, God forbid, demonstrates it in their actions. Discriminatory behavior is like the most ingrained human survival instinct that exists.

Overriding this is such a difficult thing. It requires near constant propaganda. But it has been effective, even on the right, especially on the right. How can people most effectively counter signal the left and return this instinct that kind of been lost that we all have to be discerning and to engage in discriminatory behavior. I mean, the only way to deal with them is head on. I mean, they call you a racist and you say end. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when you do that like on social media, they don't know how to react. They lose their minds. Now, imagine if that was face to face. Yeah. If they don't know how to act,

if they don't know how to react to you being like, you can call me a fascist, okay, I'm a fascist. Call me a racist. Okay, I'm a racist. Oh, you call me a Nazi. Okay, I'm a Nazi. Okay. They don't know how to, if they don't know how to do it, what are they going to do in face to face? They're going to run. Yeah. They don't know what, they don't know how to handle that. I don't care about these things. I don't care what you're calling me. Those are just political. Those are political ideologies. My ideology is to protect me and mine. Yep. And to do it in any way that's possible. Yeah, absolutely. I think that, I think that's, that's, I think that. I think that. I think that. that's so true. And the fact that people are losing this and on the right are still in this position where they're saying like, I'm not racist. It's it's astounding to me that people haven't figured out that it's like, well, you are racist. Who cares? It doesn't matter. This doesn't even mean anything anymore. Colloquially, racism has just turned into like, I care about my people. That's not where racism meant historically by any means. Let's talk a little bit about about culture because you talk about that a lot on your streams. and the absence of culture being the true problem within our society. I think that this is true. As we're seeing this emergence of the nuclear family being the basis for our culture, but I'm not sure it's supposed to be this way. I think the nuclear family is supposed to emerge from a functional culture,

not be the functional culture. Could you talk a little bit about the importance of establishing cultural values and how historically that loss has obliterated, societies. Those people who love going out shopping for Black Friday deals, they're mad, aren't they? Like, proper mad. Brenda wants a television and she's prepared to fight for it, if you ask me. It's the fastest way to a meltdown. Me, I just prepare the fastest way to get stuff, and it doesn't get faster than Appliances Delivered.aE. Top brand appliances, top brand electricals, and if it's online, it's in stock.

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I know where I live. I know some people who are very attached to their culture and know how far back their culture goes. But most people have become completely deracinated from their culture. If they grow up like where I live, so many of them are taught. and is pushed in school. You want to move to the right zip code. You want to get closer to a city. That's the only way you're going to be able to make money. Making money is how you judge your self-worth.

Then you can find a nice wife there, and the nice wife there is going to be somebody who's from the city or move to the city and has the same values in moving to the city. And basically, you've lost everything. I mean, when I drive by, I don't know how common this, in a lot of places.

But, you know, when you drive by churches here, they usually have graveyards. You know, great cemeteries attached to them. Right. And some of those cemeteries, some of the people going to that church at that time, their great-grandparents are buried there. And their great-great-grandparents are buried there.

The cemetery may be named after some of them. That's culture. Yes. And people, and we've been taught and we've been brainwashed by you know who that oh you're not allowed that's not that's that's terrible you're it's so backwards

why would you stay there you stay there you're not going to understand the city where we are you have to come to the city where we are but I literally think they're the only group that belong in cities yeah they're the only group that are made for cities blacks are the worst

country blacks are great I mean you know I meet so many of them And I'm like, cool as hell. Yes, sir. No, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, sir, no ma'am.

But once they get into the city, what the hell happens to them? Yeah. I mean, really, what the hell happens to them? They get into a ghetto and everything goes haywire. I actually think that most of mankind does not even belong near our city. I think that we were still, it's still in our DNA that we're to be rural, that we're supposed to be near the land. We're supposed to be of the land and near the farm. arms. And I still have family who live out in very rural, through my mother's side, live out

in very rural Pennsylvania. And I mean, they'll never leave. But I left them. I'm deracinated from them. You know, I had to basically start over as far as culture goes because my family never, never really had a culture. They didn't teach culture because they grew up in the city. Right. They grew up in New York City. There's no, there's a certain culture in New York city, but it's not something that is really going to be generational. How do you have generational when you're renting an apartment? That doesn't make sense. When your food comes from a supermarket, when all your food comes from a supermarket, that's not, I'm sorry, you know, but that's for a certain group who is transitory, who is cosmopolitan, let's say, rootless. You can use that term, too.

But most of us, I mean, our ancestors are not from that. They came from rural. No, it dehumanizes you, especially living in a city in modern times. Like, I remember this guy passed out in the middle of the street when I was living in Seattle. And I'm pretty sure he was dead. And I was like, I don't even know if I did anything. I was like, huh, look at that. But the thing about it was you can't do anything because a bum will wake up and try to slit your throat.

So I was like a single woman. I should not have approached him to see if he was okay. But that's the level of humanity in cities. Like I did not care whether or not my fellow man was dead or alive because I was so in this space of protecting myself. Smile at someone on the subway in New York. Yeah. Yeah. I go to the grocery store here in my little town at 2,500.

I smile at somebody and there is smile right back and they're saying, hi. We can get into a conversation. And then you see their face again and they become part of your community and that is reassuring that makes you feel safe. And that's what community building is all about. So you're the first generation that's tried to reinstate this concept of culture in your family. I know you shopped around town to see the reaction of local sheriffs to COVID protocol. Do you think that if we all did this, which is what I've done, I live in North Idaho now, after living in all of America's worst cities, do you think that this will pull us out of the nosedive or just, delay the collapse. I think it'll pull some of us out of the nose dive. I think some are going to be

lost. I mean, some are always lost. Who cares though? Yeah. I mean, I care about my people who share my values. That's it. I mean, I can't really go beyond that. I'm not going to save the world. The people who are trying to save the world are destroying it in the process. In trying to save the world, you end up destroying, you end up destroying cultures. You end up destroying who people are, because you want them to become what you are. Right. You want them to be, and I'm not interested. I'm not interested in any of these protesters on college campuses, even though we may hold, you know, if they're not paid, if they are actually real protesters, they, we may hold the same opinion of one group or one nation or something like that,

but that's not enough that I want them to live next door to me. It's not something that I want enough that I want them to live in the same state as me. You know, culture goes way beyond, you know, like a political opinion. You know, it's, I mean, it's, it's remarkable when you, when you see what people think culture is. and they think that it is like this shared belief in politics has just nothing, nothing to do with it. Culture is not politics. I mean, you know, basically what politics is to me is it's just a formalization of what your culture is. So if you have to write laws because the cities are absolute zoos, if you have to write laws to be like, well, you know, you can't kill, you can't kill, you can't rape, you can't steal, you've already lost the game.

Right. The best communities, the best cultures are ones where the rules aren't written. They're written on people's hearts. So is politics downstream from culture or is culture downstream from politics? Yeah, the culture is downstream from politics. Yeah. I mean, culture is actually, when it comes to politics, culture is downstream from politics,

but culture is actually organic. It's when people, when politics creating culture is to subvert people's cultures, to subvert existing cultures to turn them into what they want them to be. They want them to be like them. And, you know, that's just, I mean, what do you, what do you do? I live where I live because it's because it's a certain culture.

You know, somebody, a friend of mine was asked me the other night, he's like, so what's the politics like around there? I'm like, it's like apolitical. Yeah. People don't have to talk about it because they're talking about real stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're talking about, you know, is what storm is coming?

Did you get your stuff in the ground before Mother's Day? Yeah. Is there a storm coming? Can somebody get the fans working on the chicken on that chicken? house because it is starting to stank around here, you know, stuff like that. I mean, that's important, that's important stuff in life, not, you know,

and if now, if the local library, which my local library, this wouldn't happen at, decided they were going to do Drag Queen's Story Hour, then you would see a problem, considering the library is right next to the biggest church in town. Yeah.

But, you know, it's not, that's not something that we have to really worry about here. If that were to happen, then I would think that mobilization would have to be made. But we really should, considering the way the world is right now, we should be planning ahead for that and have a strategy ahead of time for that. That's true. But it is a manifestation of a functional culture to not have to have, everybody should not

have to have a political opinion. Most people are of average intelligence and they shouldn't be dabbling in these issues. People should be having kids, tending to their chickens, doing their mundane stuff. They shouldn't have an opinion on every single thing. It was never meant to be this way. Well, I mean, when you realize that the world was a safer and less violent place when there were high illiteracy rates, I mean, people, the only reason they wanted everybody educated was to propagandize them.

Yeah. Just get them educated enough so that they could read their propaganda and believe in it. They could control them. You heard it here, folks. We're anti-literacy on this show. Yeah. It's amazing. the people were less, and that's that whole lie about, oh, when people didn't have the Bible,

when people couldn't read, they couldn't read the Bible and everything like that. All of that, there has been so much revisionist history on literacy rates from the year 500 to the year 1,500, when they say, oh, no one could read. And, you know, so it's like, well, I mean, that's just not true. But they had to make sure that, but not everybody could read. If you were a serf, if you were, if you were tilling the land, you didn't need to know how to read. You just needed to know how to till the land. But mass and universal literacy, I mean, what greater way to propagate. And even Edward Bernay, is the father of propaganda in the United States,

said that in his article, The Engineering of Consent in 1947. He said he actually said the First Amendment, free speech was the greatest tool for the propagandist. because then they were free to say whatever they wanted. And then in other essays, he talked about how mass literacy was, we just wanted them educated enough, just enough so that they could buy our advertising and believe what we wrote in the newspapers. Right, right, which leads to the question, like what kind of government is going to be most effective for institutionalizing right-wing philosophy?

So I've heard you talk a little bit about a right-wing dictator. And I was thinking if a right-wing dictator that espoused all of our philosophies came about through absolute complete violation of all aspects of our current governmental order, this is a bit of rhetorical question because I know you're going to say. But would you even care. I would not give a shit. I don't care. What do you think? Well, I mean, yeah, there has to be authoritarianism in some way to keep order. I mean, when you look at Singapore, Singapore is a, is a country that is multicultural.

There's a lot of different Asian groups in there. If people don't know this, Asian groups are really racist against each other. They hate each other. I was recently in Japan, and they hate the Chinese so much. I was sitting in an empty restaurant. It was just us. A group of Chinese tourists came in and went to talk to Japanese chef, and the Japanese chef was like, get out. were full.

And I was just watching this like, that's so awesome that he thinks that they, I don't even know how he knew they were Chinese. Yeah, but the way that they keep, the way that they keep order there is they have authoritarian order. You spit down on the ground, you go to jail. I mean, there's so many things that you can go to jail for. Even, I'll even give New York City its props.

You know, in the 90s, they basically put two cops on every other corner. Yeah. And it stopped the crime. They went completely. They stopped the murder. They went completely when I was growing up in New York City. So racist. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Well, when I was growing up in New York City, we were having, I mean, our murder rate was, I think it was like 2000 a year, something like that. Seriously? Insane. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah. That's like twice what it is in Chicago now. Yeah. Yeah. Chicago has actually come down too. But the, and murder rates are coming down, except in certain neighborhoods. I mean, I tell people this all the time. You want to solve crime?

You want to solve quote unquote gun violence? Get rid of the blacks. Yeah, really. I mean, literally if... Well, and Mexicans. Two beat. Well, yeah. But no, I mean, even if you just got rid of the blacks,

we'd have the gun violence of Belgium. Yeah. We'd have the murder rates of, like, Belgium. I mean, it's... Wait, Belgium with or without Muslims, though? Oh, I mean, I still think Belgium. Belgium doesn't have a big murder. I mean, they have other problems.

But, yeah, I always go to murder because murder is, you know, the, it's the worst crime. Yeah. But the, yeah, I mean, it goes back to culture. What's your culture? If your culture is theft, if your culture is, you don't really care about anyone else. You know, I mean, you know, people, I get, I catch a lot of shit for, you know, what I say about the black community, but here's the thing. If it was just them going out and like terrorizing white people or terrorizing Mexicans,

that would be some, that would be one thing. They terrorize each other more than they terrorize. How do you live with the people who terrorizes, who can, they attack each other. They murder each other. But they have no, I mean, they have no culture whatsoever. Yeah. And in that way, I kind of feel for American blacks because what are they supposed to do?

Like, repatriation to Africa would never work because most of them are 20% white and have a one standard deviation higher IQ than almost any African nation. Like, what are they going to do? They have to be incorporated into the tapestry of America, whether or not we like it. Like, that's the only solution. So they need to be offered a solution for their shitty culture. Well, I mean, you could stop the, you could solve all those problems with authoritarianism. Yeah. You would just have to want to.

The problem is, is that, you know, they are the regime in charge, whoever you might want to call, the regime in charge, uses them as their foot soldiers. So they allow them to do get away with doing whatever they want. And they use them. I mean, the summer of 2020. Oh, God, yeah. Was the thing that, like, put me over the edge. I remember sitting with a friend of mine, and, you know, he's like, he's like, what do you? So, you know, what do you think should be done with these protesters?

And I'm like, machine guns. It's just machine gun them. Just go out and just kill them all. I don't care if they're peaceful processors or not. Just go out and kill them all. Yeah. And he's like, I didn't expect that answer from you. And I'm like, my eyes are opening really quick after COVID because you're in the

middle of COVID at this point. And then you have this kickoff. And they're like, oh, it's okay for them to be out there, but they don't want me to be in a frigging. Oh, it was, it was maddening. It was absolutely maddening. And I do love hearing this argument from the left when they look at us. They're like, you're just dog whistling authoritarianism and fascism. I'm like, no, I am outright telling you. Yeah, I'm openly calling for it. Yeah, I don't know what to say. This old, this old dog whistling thing. COVID really was the turning point for so many people. And I want to talk about that little bit. I heard your discussion on Scott Adams and his recent rant about saying every single thing that will become illegal in terms of the anti-Semitism bill. And I think we have a tendency to throw the baby out with the bathwater since he said all this great stuff. But then he had to be like,

I love Jews. I love Israeli Jews. I love America Jews. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I heard that and I was like, you were so close, buddy. But then you said something profound in response. I think one of your listeners had made that criticism. And you said, he isn't talking to us. He's talking to people that are a little bit further back on the journey. They were normies, but they're starting to get really fed up. They're mad as hell they're not going to take it anymore. And so I started to think, is there still utility in trying to convert the normie?

Because I had thrown in the towel even before COVID, because it became so fucking frustrating to deal with these people that I was like, you are dead to me. I have no use for you. But what you said made me maybe want to reevaluate this position. Well, I think what I added on after that was a little more important. But, you know, we're not Jehovah's Witnesses. Yeah. We're not here to make people, to change people's minds.

If we change people's minds along the way, that's good. We're looking for people with power and money and elite status to join. You know, we're looking for a van. guard. We're looking for people who, and that's what I said afterwards, the brilliance of him talking like that is he has people listening to his show that don't listen to mine, that don't listen to yours. He has people who have means to make change. Because elites always run things. I'm a big proponent of elite theory. Whenever you go back, when you can go all the way, you can go to Rome. You can go anywhere. It's always run by a very small group. You want your own elites. You want your own

elites to be in charge. And that's what I think the good thing about Scott Adams when he did his black rant, what, a year and a half, two years ago. And now he did this rant is he's speaking to people that will never listen to my show. Who may, you know, it's like, hopefully it's like, okay, so they listen to Scott Adams and maybe they go to Tucker and then maybe they go to Daryl Cooper Martyrmaid and then maybe they make their way over to my show. Totally. Totally. I can complete a radicalization. But it's a journey. It's a journey along the way. I mean, everyone takes the journey. Most people don't, most people don't make the jump like right to right to radical politics. They're on. Of course. Yeah. Do you think that constitutional conservatism is a is a necessary stop? Because I feel like the trajectory most

people are on is leftist libertarian constitutional conservative some variation of dissident right although I don't even know how to classify myself so I don't really want to call myself anything but do you think that constitutional conservatism is a necessary step on on this trajectory I think it's hard not for it not to be a given I mean that's what we're taught in school yeah you know that's what we're taught in school and the reason we're taught it in school is because it's feckless and pointless and powerless and it leads to anybody who has the most power and the most will willing to use the most power and who has the most will and who has some financial

backing to be able to take over take over power and wield power however they want you know those guys that everybody you know talks about being the most evil people in the world um you know back back in the 20s and 30s and into the mid 40s um they you know they had to really like bring, it was up from the streets. It was like really one of the only true revolutions up from the streets, but also it didn't happen because they had a lot of numbers. I mean, eventually they were going to have to get a lot of numbers in order to have a number of soldiers.

But it happened because they had a tight-knit group that was willing to work together. 20 people or, you know, I say that probably Washington, D.C. is run by 2,000 people. 2,000 people can organize much easier than 350 million. 350 million people cannot organize. Then you take consideration that that 350 is splintered into all sorts of different groups. You're always going to have, that's how you have your elite. You're going to have one group who's going to be like, okay, we want power now. You have what Paredo Paredo Paredo called the circulation of elites.

The same elites are not always in power. I mean, they cycle out. I mean, the Rothschilds have been in power now for a lot. long, long time. But, you know, they went after the money. They understood that if they can control the money supply, they could probably stay in power for as long as they wanted. But the layman doesn't understand the nature of people rising to power. And I think that one of the greatest disservices that was done to me in my education was reframing historical power, especially in terms of World War II. So I was always told that like Hitler himself was that everything that happened

in World War II was the fault of Hitler specifically, that his power, his, His specific brand of charisma was so powerful that that is how all of World War II happened, which is absolutely insane because what happened was Weimar, Germany, the culture was destroyed, and then somebody came in to fill that vacuum with the promises of instilling, we'll re-instilling this culture that the Germans were really missing. I mean, there was hyperinflation, there was mass starvation, there was disease. He was like, I will fix all these problems by giving you the culture that was lost. I don't know really how much it had to do with Hitler himself. So I don't think that Americans

as a whole, that we really have an understanding of how power must be. It's necessarily organic. Otherwise, it's not super long lasting. Like the Ross Childs and everything, I don't know that that was organic, but that's why I don't think that they have the staying power. Well, you know, one thing I will say, we can get off of Hitler because it's just, it's, it's so clear. say to talk about him. When it came to the German people, they really didn't like the National Socialist Party, the NSDAP. They really loved Hitler.

They loved him. So you do think that it was his specific charisma? Yeah. Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. They loved him. They didn't really like a lot of the NSDAP at all.

What do you think that World War II would have looked like in the absence of Hitler? Oh, I don't. speculate wildly for me. Well, I mean, you don't have the rise of the National Socialist Party without Hitler. I mean, something would have happened. I mean, Hindenberg would have, I don't know what Hindenberg would have done. I don't know. I don't know that you can do that because the Treaty of Versailles, the blockade, everything from World War I demanded a Hitler.

you were going to get a Hitler no matter what. You know, just like the Spanish, the Republicans winning the election in Spain in 1936 demanded that Franco was going to be coming back from the Canary Islands to fight. I mean, you just, you weren't, there are certain events and certain things that are put into place that demand that one,

that a man, a great man rises up and does something, Alende in Chile in 1973. If Pinotche doesn't come out, you know, I mean, basically an unknown. If he doesn't step up, then, you know, Alende, basically the Soviet Union has another satellite country in South America. So I don't know that you can, I mean, I think Hitler was just, was almost messianic in a way, that it was going to happen no matter what. I don't know.

I don't know if anybody could have. I don't know that I don't think anyone else in the party had that kind of charisma. I mean, when you watch the speeches from trying for the will, I mean, there are some guys,

I mean, Julia Stryker, but I mean, he basically ran a newspaper. Alfred Rosenberg may have been a guy who could have been able to do it. But I don't think, I think Hitler was just, I mean, that was a given. It had to happen that way.

I think we were going to get World War II no matter what. Yeah. Because we know that the Jews wanted to destroy Germany. I mean, they, after World War I, they wanted to destroy Germany. And the way we know they wanted to destroy Germany after World War I is because after World War II, I mean, they basically killed millions and two million Germans. Civilians, citizens. I mean, they just killed them. And, you know, they, the, the, the, the, I forget, the Henry, the Morgan, Morganthau, he was the head of the Treasury of the Federal Reserve at the time.

He came up with the Morganthau plan, and the Morganthau plan was to basically exterminate Germany, to exterminate, to make it, to put it back to the Stone Age. There were Jewish writers. I was reading a book. I can't remember his name, who had a plan to be able to sterilize the whole country in three months, within three months. They wanted to destroy Germany. So I think you would have got World War II no matter what, but I think that you would have, I think you may have gotten World War II a lot earlier. They would have, they would have sought to destroy Germany. I mean, you still may have had Weimar conditions if someone like Hitler didn't rise.

Yeah. Because, you know, Wymer was, if you read Goebbels' early diaries, you get a real. really good idea of what Weimar was like. Emma Eisenberger, her diary blockade does a really good job of talking about that of what why Marr was really like. So yeah, I mean, if Hitler doesn't come along, they may have just not even had to have a world war to destroy Germany. They would have just destroyed it.

Maybe it would only have the Pacific theater of Japan. Do you see anyone emerging, anyone specific, or the qualities of an individual that would be necessary to be an authoritarian leader in America in the near future? Yeah, one, but I don't know that he, I mean, he has the spirit of it. He definitely has the fuck you spirit towards the whole regime. But, you know, people don't, I don't think a lot of people see it because they see him as an insider in Silicon Valley, JD Vance. I think J.D. Vance has that kind of, you know, if you read it, If you read his book, Hillbilly Elegie, I mean, he really hates the people who really hates the people who destroyed Middle America.

I mean, he can't stand them. I think he's playing the game now. But I see that if someone like him with his attitude towards the regime in charge came into power, he may possess the kind of Machiavellian attitude to do something like that. But he's young. What is he? I think he's under 40. Yeah.

So there is time for you, J.D. Vance. I mean, he hates those people. I mean, he really, really hates those people. I mean, he, yeah. That book tells you everything. It tells you everything you need to know. You just need to read subtext because people like him are smart enough to not put all of their beliefs out there. Right.

Well, he can't. I mean, it would be absolutely destructive to his representation. at this point, and it would be a hindrance to any kind of future political position. I mean, I would love Blake Masters because I think he's probably the smartest of all of them, and he also looks like he looks the part that I would want. But, you know, it's, I think, I think the, they've clocked Blake. Yeah. Blake is definitely on their radar.

Yeah, totally. In that same stream that you were discussing all the Scott Adams, what he had to say, You said something also that I found very reassuring. You said that based in the discussions that are being had on Twitter right now and what we're allowed to say, you don't understand how anyone cannot be at least a little bit white-pilled. Could you elaborate on this a little bit? Well, I mean, Twitter is where narratives go to be born.

That's what Twitter has been used for, at least since, like, I would say, 2014, 2015, especially with the rise of Donald Trump. The left went there to create their narratives and to spread it because that's where all the journalists were. The short character count was perfect for journalists because they have to, you know, write in sound bites and things like that.

But now when you go on Twitter, I mean, it is, depending on what section you're in, it's just dominated by people like us. I know. It's people like us having conversations. out in the open about, you know, I mean, there has to be at least five or six,

um, polls I see a day, you know, asking about, you know, did the halibunga really happen, things like that. And it's, and just the convert, the open conversations, I mean, like, you know, after October 7th, there were so many people, so many people of Jewish ancestry. who like absolutely lost their minds and showed their ass. And the fact that people like, like 75 to 80% of the responses was like, you get what you fucking deserve.

Yeah. I mean that, I mean, how is that not a white pill when you see that? Now there are a bunch of people who are going to be like, well, all they're doing is collecting IP addresses so they can round you up and take you to camps later and you're going to go to a gulag and everything like that,

not realize and the government does any of it. Like what agency would do that? What agency would have the budget to do that? They might make an example out of one person. They couldn't even figure out who's been vaccinated and not. Like they're not as organized as everybody thinks. Yeah. I will say that my reaction to that, like Candace Owens talking about everything.

I'm like, why are we being allowed to discuss these things? And it made me, I sound conspiratorial, but it made me feel like it's so that more legitimate accusations of anti-Semitism can arise and then be weaponized all over again because they really lost the Holocaust goodwill. Like that's tapped out. I don't think

that they can even use that anymore. And so I'm like they need a new round here. Even Scott Adams is saying that. Even Scott Adams is saying that they're losing their Holocaust card is basically been punched to the point where there's no more room to punch it. Yeah. So yeah, I'm just completely white-pilled because I'm looking

And I'm like, okay, so like pretty much every country in the world with the exception of about four is like, we hope Israel dies. And, you know, and, you know, you have all of these countries, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, all these countries surrounding joining bricks. And, you know, joining bricks is just really the ultimate F you to Jewish power because it's basically saying the, dollar we don't care about the dollar and we know who controls the dollar yeah so I mean I I'm completely white-pilled I mean I don't know in my lifetime is is we're gonna see great change I don't know but then again I didn't think in my lifetime when I started reading you know mark Weber in 1998 talking about World War II that I openly see people in public talking about Jews I have people who contact me every day who are like yeah my parents my parents used to be like the

the Jews or the chosen people now they're like fuck that Fuck them. Fuck. I mean, I had people contact them who were like, you, before October 7th, you know, like for a year, year and a half, before October 7th,

you talked about them so much, because I really started talking about them after Ukraine because I didn't know, we're responsible for Ukraine. And I really, you know, and I was like, I'm not saying Zionist anymore. I'm going to say Jew.

I don't care. And I had people contact me October 7th who were like, man, I stopped listening to you because, you know, you were just, you were talking about it too much. And then October 7th, I saw the way they acted. I was like, oh, I have to start listening again.

You know, and then, and I mean, the fact that is being openly discussed, the fact that the American government is passing laws to protect, like, another country. Yeah. Like, openly, I mean, this isn't like, oh, we need to send 70. I mean, they didn't pass laws. laws to say you couldn't say the Ukraine war was unwinnable. They're like, we're passing laws to say you can't say anything about Jews. Yeah, but that's an admission that they're so detestable to the general public that they have

to be legally protected. It's like the most uncool thing that they could possibly do, and it just means that they've lost. I was actually kind of happy. Everybody's freaking out about this bill, but I was like, isn't this validating for anybody else? Oh, yeah. What are you worried about? I mean, first of all, if you understand the bill, it's under Title VI, so it really only applies to colleges. Of course, we know that that can be drawn out and it could be spread into the public. We know that. But Scott Adams didn't figure that out when he went on his rant.

He didn't talk about it being only Title VI. He's like, no, I'm going to say whatever the hell I want, and just going off and everything like that. And when you have Normies talking like that, when you have, you know, when you have like, I mean, I don't know how much Kansas Owens was making from Daily Wire, but I've seen. other Daily Wire contracts, and it had to be substantial. I know she's married to some, like, royalty, Duke, something from England or something, whatever. It's not just that he's worth just him, $100 million.

Okay. Well. So she had some walking around money. Yeah, yeah. But the fact that even, the fact that you're even willing to, you know, trash your reputation. Now, I mean, to me, a lot of people will say, well, she trashed her reputation with. Who cares, though? with her old doxing website and everything like that.

Oh, yeah. But, you know, but the, but I'm just when, you know, let's not forget who started this. It was Kanye. Even if Kanye has gone back on it, he started something that's, they can't be stopped. Yeah.

After October 7th, what I said was when they, when I saw the response and when I saw the way people were reacting on Twitter, I was like, that's it. This is the conversation from now. on you they can't go back this is the conversation from now on we are going to be talking about the jews from now on and what happens to countries when they start talking about them it's it be good immediately people are like why why are there so many people on the board why are there so many people working for the um the nih who are jewish and you can prove have to have dual dual um

citizenship. Why are there so many on the on something? Oh, because they have these high IQs. Okay, but they're 2% of the population. Let's say, let's say a good part of them, a good, a good part of 2% of the population has high IQs. Okay, the white population in this country is what? 60% just in sheer numbers, not per capita. White people, we'd have more whites with high IQs than Jews. Okay, so why did Jews dominate all these because of nepotism and because the system has been built for them to be able to be slotted in anywhere. When they had that picture of 457 Jews working in Biden's cabinet, in Biden's White House, I mean, okay, I mean, sure, they flock to cities, they love cities,

they love power, 457. Then you look at his cabinet, it's like 70, 80%. Then you look at what, the Treasury Secretary, Secretary of State, everyone. Okay, there are no Protestants. There are no white people that can do these jobs, these jobs. These are the only people who are, I mean, I know that white people are graduating from Ivy Leagues. These are the only, these are the only people who can do these jobs. Stop.

Stop with the high IQ bullshit. There's really, and really there's not, when you start digging into that, the evidence for that is like two surveys. So there's like two studies that were done in the 50s and the 60 and the 70s. People want to go, oh, oh, Jews, you know, the Nobel Prize, Nobel Prize. And that's another thing that it has been shown in this whole thing. When a Jew does something good, oh, he's of credit to the whole Jewish race. Oh, a Y person.

Yeah. Oh, no, when a Jew does something good, oh, look at how many Nobel Prize. winners we have. That's just a credit to Jewish race. Okay, let's talk about Garrick Yagoda. He was in Soviet Union, he was head of the Czech, and he's responsible for the death of about 20 million people.

Is that applicable? Yeah. Is that applicable to the Jewish? The Bolsheviks, after the revolution, getting into about the 1930s, half of the executioners in the the Bolshek in the Soviet party were Jewish.

Yeah. Is that something we should be celebrating? Oh no, they have to be, their Judaism has to be ignored. We can't look at their Judaism. We have to judge them as individuals. Yeah, whereas I'm morally culpable for like the blood memory of my ancestors that were slave owners or whatever the fuck. It's like people are going to look at this.

Average Americans are looking at this going, yeah, yeah, I don't think so. There's just no way. Nobody's going to accept that kind of responsibility for their ancestors. Good or bad. So why should we attribute the positives to the entire Jewish nation? Yeah. And not only that, I mean, as their own philosophers have written, the Jews are never guilty of anything.

And they're not allowed to say they are. They're not allowed to say they're only innocent of everything. They've never done anything wrong. Yeah. I mean, think about no one ever asked. When I study something, I want to know who. I want to know when. I want to know where.

I want to know how. But you know what the most important thing to me is, why? When you tell me, well, you know, there were pogroms in Russia against Jews. Okay, why? Why that happened? Well, we're just everywhere we go, we're, everybody hates us and they want to kill us. Okay, why? Why?

Yeah. Just tell me why. Because they're jealous of their superior intellect and their high verbal IQ. It's jealousy. See, no one would give them jobs so they allowed them to be in charge of banking. I don't want you working in my grocery store. I don't want you working in my field, but please take care of our money. And then the infrastructure, the economic infrastructure of this entire nation, yeah.

I mean, it's, come on. Come on. And what's hilarious is to think that they're not, like, they don't operate as a group. It's been proven. Thaddeus Russell wrote his book, Renegate History of the United States, that remember, there was a time when Jews were the best jazz musicians. There was a time when Jews were the best basketball players. I don't believe that. They were.

There was a time when the Jews were the best boxers. And then their local, their newspapers, the Jewish newspapers started saying, we need to stop this. Boxers become promoters. Basketball players, by the teams. Jazz musicians, by the jazz clubs. There's literally, you can actually prove this. You can actually go into their old newspapers and their old neighborhood weeklies where they're like, we have to, we have to become people. of the mind. Right now we're people

of the body. We're playing music. We're doing sports. All this stuff that's like, it's gross. You know, it's what black people do. We need to become more of the people of the mind. And they did. And they did.

And they acted as a monolith in doing it. So to say, oh, I have to judge them as individuals. Nope. Sorry. It's not going to happen. I'm not being judged as an individual. Why would I extend that courtesy of any other group. I'm not doing that. Yeah. No. I mean, they don't want to judge us as individuals. I mean, they look down. They look down. They call, I mean, I know Goyam literally means nations.

Okay. I know it means nations. I also know what the other, I also know what another term for it means, you know? Okay. You know, it's like, it's like, I know what faggot means in Britain. It could be a cigarette. It could be a meatball. But it's something different here. It sure is. But it's something different here. All right? So don't play word games with me. I'm sorry. I'm one of those ones that got that managed to,

I don't know how it happened, but I managed to get the high IQ. Okay, so you're not going to put one past me, all right? Every once in a while you'll get one past me, but you know, I'm a pretty good goalie.

I don't know. I think that one of the things that appeals to the general public about you and why you've become so popular is that you really embody this. racial fatigue. Like, you've got a real attitude, like you don't give a fuck.

And I think that that is incredibly appealing to the average American that is looking at this and is like, my ancestors helped build this country, and I'm just told on a daily basis that I'm shit and that those people are shit. And I have to kiss all these minorities' asses. And I don't care if you destroy my reputation because I'm poor anyway.

So go nuts. It doesn't matter if I'm unhirable. And they've made a grave mistake by creating so many of us because now we basically just have our own infrastructure in North Idaho. I had somebody retweet me the other day. They were like, you know, you can never get a real job ever again. And I was like, I've never cared about anything less in my entire life because I set my life up so that I don't have to work for any of you people ever again.

And how many people like me are there out there? Thousands, millions of people that are like, I'm not doing this anymore. Let's do our own thing. And they're making it work. And that's why people love you. Oh, thank you. But, you know, my mother's family has been here since the early 1800s. You know, so they weren't founding stock, but they got here soon after.

My dad's family was from a territory that was conquered by the United States. And, you know, my dad and my grandparents are all born American citizens. My dad came here on a plane, you know? I mean, so it's, you know, I'm as American. I consider myself to be as American as a American. everyone else. I mean, you can go and find, I heard Anne Coulter talking about this the other day. You can go find daughters in the American Revolution who are like complete progressives. And, oh, yeah. I mean, it's like, I mean, what am I? They're more American than me because

their family was here, you know, family fought in the revolution. No, fuck that. You know, it's like, no, I'm sorry. But the, um, the, the whole, the whole idea that we are going to back down to these people because we fear loss. I understand the Anans on Twitter. I understand. I love my Anon's. You know, I've come to know a lot of them personally, met a lot of them and everything. And, you know, I have friends who I have friends who I've met three and four times who I don't know their real names.

I've met in person, in real life. I don't know their real names. I don't care. I don't care. I trust them more than I do, people that I grew, you know, people that I grew up. with. But there is going to have to come a day when we're all going to have to just step out from behind the mask and just be like, screw you, we're not taking it anymore. This is who I am. My family's been here this long. I'm going to fight for it. Fuck you. And that's what these people.

I mean, fuck you. I do not call me an anti-Semite all you want. I don't give a fuck. Call me a race. I don't care. Call me a bigot. I just don't care. Call me whatever you want. I'm going to be dead. in a couple decades. Who cares? I mean, I mean, if I live a long life, you know, maybe I could stay around another 30 or, you know, another 30 or so. But who knows? I mean, my health could go, your health can go bad overnight.

What am I going to do? I'm going to sit here and I'm going to walk on eggshells because, because some fucking guy, or a girl who thinks that, like, men can get pregnant. I'm going to be scared of what they can, they can call somebody or anything. Yeah. Like, come on. Whatever. Yeah, yeah.

And that's why Scott Adams got so much traction because he really embodies the spirit. Like, I'm fucking tired. I'm not doing this anymore. Man. And I think that that is a really powerful thing. I really do. So maybe this fatigue can catch on to the general public in a more meaningful way. But I would disagree with you.

I think that there's time for being anonymous is over. Like, I get messages from people all the time. Like, I can't. I can't do it. of my job. I'm like, well, then change your life. Like, I can't because my wife is a stay-at-home mom and we live in this area. I'm like, then move. Like, I don't understand. I feel like everybody's such a pussy.

Like, people are acting like there's no way they can change their lives so that they can say what they want. Why, I did. Like, well, you were privileged. I'm like, you sound like a leftist now. So. Well, even people who were, you know, people who founded this country understood that they had to stay anonymous in a lot of their writings and stuff like that or else they would, you know, they couldn't continue the work. Yeah. I really understand.

I really understand that, especially a lot of the content creators who are still anonymous. I understand it because they can make your life a living hell. I just think that it's getting to the point where no one cares. It's like, I've had people, I've had people say, I know your address.

And I'm like, okay. Well, yeah. I mean, I could see you coming from a mile away. I don't have neighbors. Yeah.

It's like, I don't have, my neighbors. are a long way away. Yeah. We were talking about using using chicken using chicken litter to do the lawn and everything like that.

It's like, oh man, your neighbor's going to hate you. I'm like, what neighbors? What he's talking about? Who? I can see it coming from a mile away. That's true. And it's a dangerous proposition. Like, I live in North Idaho and I thought,

I had some problems at my old house. And so I called the police. And they were familiar with swatting because there's some other YouTubers that live up here. all about it. And they were like, just go talk to your neighbors. And so I went to talk to my neighbors. I'd never met them before. And they all were like, we're locked and loaded over here. So we'll be keeping an eye in your house. Like anybody that comes to one of our houses is they're going to

get shot. Like, what is the plan here? Like, you're going to come harass me at my house. That's dangerous for you. We were, we went on vacation for seven days. We were gone for seven days. I left the porch light on and we got deliveries and they left them on the porch. So even at night, the porch light is on for someone driving by. I can see the packages there. They were there for five days. Got back. They're still there.

Yeah. Yeah. They're still there. Yeah. I mean, that's what, I mean, I'm not going to live near a city. I know people are like, well, that's where all the political power is. I'm like, so what? How do you plan on getting it?

If you're a right winger, how do you plan on going into a city and getting political power. Yeah. What kind of coalition are you building? Oh yeah. The FBI will be all over that. Yeah. And even if you hide who you are and you're able to, you know, get power and then you change your, they'll get you out of there. It's like, what do you think you're doing? Go find, find, fine. I'm somebody who always says culture is the most important thing. Telling people to get out of cities. people have told me in the past, you say culture is the most important thing, but you're telling me to go away from my family.

I'm like, well, take your family with you. Yeah, of course. Somewhere else. You cannot build a legacy in a city. Unless you're one of the, unless you're like a Trump or something like that, I don't think most people have the ability to do that. I mean,

Trump's uncle was such an insider with the government that when Tesla died, everything that Tesla had was given to John Trump. Okay, so Trump. Trump doesn't come from this family of like, oh, you know, they just build buildings and stuff like that. No, he was an insider in the government. Let's stop right now.

And call it what it is, yeah. Yeah, but you have to go find your own people. You have to go, you know, I wrote this substack a while back, and I talked about how, like, we've been so conditioned that money is the most important thing, like going up a comma in your, bank account is more important than like your family, that I know people who have like acres and acres of land and they may have a family cemetery there. And they'll, you know, when they're, whoever is on that dies, because they may be able to make some money, they'll sell that. They'll get rid of this

family legacy that may have been there for two, three hundred years that they may have settled themselves. Maybe, maybe even if they care about their ancestors a little bit, they'll make a deal that the cemetery stays there, but if they get offered another $50,000, they'll remove those tombstones. They'll destroy their whole legacy for money. And that's what we've been trained to do. I think it's the majority of people would do this. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's definitely true. Wow, what a depressing note to end on. Well, I mean, I can do that too. I can do that too. But I'm trying to get people to be like, look, there's more. you are. If your family, if your family's been somewhere forever, stay there. Just build. That's your legacy. That's who you are. You're not your bank account. You're where you came from and the sum of the experiences of your

ancestors. That's true. And I think that people, they don't think that they can live without. And I always hear this argument. Like, people aren't having kids because kids are so expensive. I'm like, I have kids and they're super cheap. Like my daughter that is three months old has literally cost me nothing because I breastfeed or like it I where's this idea coming from that kids are so expensive like they don't have to go to the best schools they don't have to wear the best clothes like kids are they're not expensive they aren't and I think that people are like that with all things in life I'm finding that things are less expensive than I had anticipated now that I'm in my adulthood and it's been kind of a blessed surprise so I encourage people to like really think about what you can

live without yeah Now, there's a lot of sacrifices you can make. And a lot of them don't even have to be sacrifices. I know the things are really bad because people used to be able to just 50 years ago have one person working. And, you know, the wife could stay home and take care of the kids. You can have multiple kids. You could buy a house. You could have a car.

And things have just, they've engineered it in a way to make people more dependent upon them. and move closer to the cities and things like that. But, I mean, you just have to figure out a way to beat them. I mean, you have to do everything you possibly can. When I was starting my, when I started my podcast and my podcasts, started getting a little bit of little traction. I was working a full-time job, some 52 hours a week, sometimes 60 hours a week. And then I just decided, I was like, I want this, after a while,

I want this podcasting thing to be what I want to. do. And I said, in order for me to do that, I'm going to have to put out more material. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to put out an episode Monday, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And I'm just going to put out three episodes a week. I don't know how I'm going to be able to do it. You figure it out, though. Yeah. I figured it out while I was working. And while I was working, you know, the first year, I made a little bit of money. The second year, I made a little more money. I got to the point where I was able to replace, you know, replace my income. And then it's really hard because it's like, you got two incomes coming in.

Yeah. The same thing. And it's like, do I quit my job? I am like, doing really well here. You know, I'm going to, I didn't raise my living standard at all. I still drove a car that I bought for $500. I still lived in the same exact place and everything. But maybe I went out to eat one more day a week.

And I was just like, I can't do this job anymore. Yeah. This is what I was meant to do. to podcast, write and do all these things. So I quit. And by the graciousness of the people who listen and who read and everything, I'm able to do this job and be able to wake up. And I mean, the first thing I do when I wake up after I meditate and pray, I try to start writing or I start reading. I'm constantly working on the show. Even if I'm a moment. on the road. If we're driving somewhere, if we go on vacation and we drive, I try not to fly

anymore. In 2022, I flew eight or nine times. I was in and out of airports, like eight or nine times. Last year, it was like once. This year, it's going to be zero. Zero. And I mean, I'm just staying away. So we're doing a lot of drive. We drove to Texas from Alabama. We went down to Florida for a week this year and everything. While I'm on the road, I am listening to books on tape. I'm still working because this is what I want people to know what I what I know. I want people to try to understand what I'm seeing in the world. Even if you disagree, at least understand where I'm coming from. Maybe you'll get something out of it. Maybe it'll plant something for the future. Plant the seed. Yeah. And I think that's really important. So on that note, that was my guest,

Piquanones. You can check out his content in the links below. Please listen. or watch his podcast. It is fantastic. I'm so glad that I've discovered you. And thank you so much for joining me today. I do have a few interviews coming up in the coming weeks. I think I'm going to have Devin Stack back on. Emily Yucas is going to come on.

So I'm definitely going to get banned. It's not going to be this stream where we said juice 7,000 times. It's going to be the next stream. Although you might be the one. This might be the show episode. I'd be proud. They haven't kicked me off of YouTube yet. They've demonetized me.

Oh, yeah. me off. I've been demonetized for like years and years. Yeah. But there's also episodes I just don't put on YouTube. Smart. Yeah. Smart. Anyways, to check me out on Rumble. This will be posted on Rumble on BIT shoot on YouTube. Check out my Twitter Blonde's underscore tweets. Thank you so much for joining us and we will see you soon. Bye guys. Take care. Thanks, everybody.