The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1059: Pete, Jose Niño, Charles Spadille and Special Guest Tim Kelly Discuss Tucker Carlson's Interview w/ Erik Prince

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

113 MinutesNSFWThe Thought Crime Syndicate minus the vacationing Dark Enlightenment were joined by Tim Kelly of the Our Interesting Times podcast to play and discuss selected clips from Tucker Carlson...'s interview with Erik Prince.The InterviewOur Interesting Times podcastDE's Telegram ChannelJose's SubstackSubscribe to Jose's Newsletter10 Myths of Gun ControlJose's Mises.org PageVIP Summit 3-Truth To Freedom - Autonomy w/ Richard GroveSupport Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:09 I am happy to have here. We have three members of the Thought Crime Syndicate. D.E. is traveling, so he won't be with us. But the great Tim Kelly is helping to fill in here. So, hey, Tim, how are you doing? Not too bad. How are you in the, is it Memorial Day weekend we're celebrating? Yeah, that's what we're supposed to be celebrating.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah, something like that. I thought it was Toyo Oathon, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know anything. Yeah, it should be the Almighty GDP. Yeah, there you got that. Yep. Yeah, the totem, almighty domestic product. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:52 All right, all right. Let's get, let's get this moving. All right. So what we're going to do is Tucker had this interview with Eric Prince that ran two hours. 30 to 45 minutes of it was actually a commercial for a phone. Yeah. That Eric Prince has come out with. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'll be advertising my phone two thirds of the way to the program. Yes, getting our drift on. Yep. But there were some things in here that I thought were very, very interesting. So I sent the gentleman some time stamps and we're going to listen to them and then we're going to comment on them. And this first time stamp is talking about basically elites, but I thought one of the most interesting parts of this was a comment. that Tucker makes comments, Tucker's very last comment in this clip. So I'm going to play it
Starting point is 00:04:58 for you all and we'll make sure this is 100% loud. Yep. And then we'll comment and I'll get everybody's reactions to this. So all right, stand by. Here we go. Questions. And I do want to circle back to your initial point that warfare is completely different to step changes, you said. But how on this thread, how does the U.S. Congress, how do people who claim to to support our troops, back the military, strong defense, the Liz Cheney wing of the Congress. How do they keep sending money to an organization that's increasingly incapable of defending the country?
Starting point is 00:05:33 I spoke to a bunch of members yesterday morning in Congress, and they were at the point of despair because they're trying to restrict the money and to bring some accountability. And they said the money is, the amount of money that is sprinkled around, around the capital by the defense contractors, by the effectively the brigades worth of lobbyists,
Starting point is 00:05:57 thousands of lobbyists spreading tens of millions of dollars around politicians and they just keep the money train going. It's really disgusting and the big thing, in the article I wrote recently, I'd said, you know, in Rome, like when the Romans lost a whole bunch of people at the Battle of Cannae, when their Senate met a couple weeks later, it was 40% undermanned.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Why? Because the Roman elites actually served in the military and bore the consequences of failure. Our elites don't serve in the military. They have very little skin in the game or no skin. And so for them, it's about it's about money and grift. Or their children serve in foreign militaries. Yes. Anybody have a comment on that one? Is he talking about the French Foreign Legion? Are we not allowed to do that anymore?
Starting point is 00:06:54 I actually knew somebody who served in the French Foreign Legion at one point, but I think his mother was French or something, and he had like French, he had French citizenship, but I would doubt after, this was before 9-11, I would doubt out of 9-11 that allowed to do that. You can absolutely serve in the French Foreign Legion. Absolutely. I mean, if you're talking about, I mean, well, first off,
Starting point is 00:07:17 what are we going to do to stop you? Nothing. But second off, I mean, you can't. really lose your in America you can't really lose your citizenship unless you unless you formally renounce it which is a big problem we have and I'll try not to get off on a tangent here which is a big problem we have with people holding two passports technically speaking by American law you can't be a citizen of two countries again but it's just like everything else we don't enforce it we don't
Starting point is 00:07:42 sit them down and say you have to renounce your other citizenship because you technically not unless the laws have changed since I worked for Department of Homeland Security which I really admit is possible, but you can't do that. I have a friend from Australia who actually served in a foreign legion for quite a few years. And as far as I know, we still can too. And I don't see why we couldn't, but I have a sneaking suspicion he is not talking about the French foreign legion. You'll forgive me if I'm being less than charitable.
Starting point is 00:08:13 But I suspect he is talking about another organization. one that perhaps wants people to serve compulsorily for one or two years to show their loyalty to their ethno state I could be wrong though of course what do you got Jose I like the point he mentioned about skin in the game because when you think about like historically if you look at like any general from whatever civilization
Starting point is 00:08:46 like its epochs past it was actually pretty common that a general would be killed in the battlefield and nowadays like it's like almost unheard of unless like you're like an iranian general that's like in syria i think it's murked by the idf or whatever but um it's actually like very uncommon in many western policy and incredibly rare to boot in many western polities that that type of stuff happens now and it's really sheltered a lot of political leaders and parasitic elites from the consequences of their behavior and instead you have a bunch of middle Americans working class people that are just expected to die in these conflicts that have but no national interest in that ultimately undermine our nation anything anything i said that's him before i go to the next
Starting point is 00:09:44 clip. Well, again, I think he's, what Eric Prince was talking about is sort of this, I guess you could say the Iron Ring or something, the military industrial complex and the various elite interest without any naming names. I think later on it refers to neo-conservatives, again, that term to sort of obscure the ethnic dimension to this issue. All right, I'm going to do the next clip. We'll, let's see, where we're at 1920, goes to 2052. All right. It's really sad. And I remember, again, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:10:17 In fact, I think we talked to, and I know we talked about it at the time. And it seemed, it seemed sensible. It seemed kind of non-odialological, practical. How do we get this is kind of a cluster fuck? How do we get out in the best way possible preserving our own interest to the extent that we can? Why didn't the administration, the Trump administration, take you up on that? I would say the same neocon, perpetual war presence in Washington that wants to do it the same way that we've been doing for decades. And I would argue losing doing that.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yes. And it's about money and power and perpetuation, not about actually putting a bow on a bad situation. But how do those people, as they inevitably do, seize the moral high ground in the opening moments of the ideological battle and position themselves as like the champions of freedom and human rights when in fact they're monsters?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like how do they get away with that every single time? I think it's a direct result of the all volunteer force. which seems a good idea. I'm still supportive of it, but it means it's a very, the people that actually serve, that bear the cost of these overseas efforts, is maybe one half of one percent of the population serving.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Three or four percent know that one percent. And then 95 percent of America has no clue and no skin in the game. And so they're easily bullshitted by the, the posturing jackasses in Washington. That's, yeah, that's why Dan Crenshaw has a job. I love those so digs, you would just throw in there. So he, basically there, he's naming him without naming them.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And what did you think of his comments about the fact that when you have an all-volunteer military, you can pretty much do whatever you want with them? there's going to be no pushback. There's not going to be draft riots like in the Civil War or Vietnam. No, you signed up for this and you have to go and do whatever we want now. Yeah, that is the implication of the all-volunteer force, although there's, you know, there's supposed to be congressional oversight of these decisions. The National Security Council is supposed to advise the president how it's supposed to work.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It's never worked that way. of a free press, right? That scrutinizes our politicians and public informed on these various foreign policy adventures or foreign policy missions that were constantly engaged in. It just doesn't work out that way because the military, not just the military, and so not the military, but the establishment press, the interest behind it are all tied into this network of elites, which again is very nepotistic, which is why Tucker Carlson's bath with why they how do they get in here and without any accountability or scrutiny and
Starting point is 00:13:21 it seemed to stay and never go anywhere. Well, one part of it is it's nepotism. You know, that's why Victoria Newland is, but was in a position that she was to provoke war in the Ukraine. And she goes back, you know, to the Obama administration and the previous administrations. So it's, you know, they got all their bases covered. That's why you can't get rid of them because you can't name them. and if you can't name your enemy and identify the power structure, the power dynamics that they use, which is largely ethnic, then you're never going to really be able to address the problem and deal with them politically because it's a category that we're not allowed to deal with,
Starting point is 00:13:57 at least publicly. We can only whisper it or talk about it on shows like this. I'm going to, I got a couple super chats over here, and Paladin Y Y, Y, Z, who was always here and always supportive. Here's what he says. He says, don't know where this show is going, but I'll remind people that there is a massive swell of support for this guy as if he is Caesar's ghost coming to save us. His family are notorious Christian Zionists. I will say that he is a Catholic.
Starting point is 00:14:26 We're co-authors of the Pinnac document. Huge supporters of the religious right movement and war profiteers, thanks to Zog. He says, as a caveat to my comments, it should be noted that most of my information on the guy comes from Jeremy Scahill. I know not the best source. but who else has written about him? Yeah, good point. He is a, I believe his family was involved in auto parts. Comes to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, his father invented the lamp behind the visor on a vehicle, from what I understand. That's what he's famous for. Okay, so, yeah, so then he got out of the armed forces and then started Blackwater. And, you know, Blackwater became sort of notorious in the odds at the various. Yeah. And, you know, he's very much a product of the system, although the system does tolerate a fair amount of criticism and variance in opinions of things.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So he's seen it all, I guess you could say, but he's also a product of it all. Yeah, that's an interesting conundrum. I mean, as Pete has said previously, historically, people that are going to fight the system come from within the system, or at least at the higher levels. And I don't believe I'm misquoting you, Pete. I believe you did say something very much to that effect. But it does present a conundrum, because I wonder, as you say, Tim, how much of a creature of the system is Eric Prince. I'm not necessarily questioning his motives. What I'm questioning is how much his motives align with us. And I understand that in our situation, beggars can't be
Starting point is 00:16:18 choosers. And as I'm fond of quoting from the first Lord of the Rings film, our list of allies grows thin. And I understand that we really don't have a lot of options, but I do have a great deal of trepidatiousness for guys like anybody like that. Anybody, let's be honest, it's not like Nixon, really, somebody that more or less did actually come from the lower echelons of American society, lower in the sense of not a billionaire, you know, somebody that actually had to work at some point in his life and not just do something because, you know, he was fun or because he wanted to do it. Not to say that Eric Prince doesn't deserve a certain amount of credit for his life's choices. He absolutely does.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But it's different when you are, when the system has its boot on your neck or when you just choose, to put the leash on, so to speak, to mix a few metaphors. But hopefully you gentlemen see what I'm trying to say with that. He's an interview. He's a very interesting person. It's an entertaining interview, and he's got a lot of experience.
Starting point is 00:17:22 So there's that. But, yeah, it's how much of a rebel can he be, given the fact that he's a massive warprofit here. And talk about some of his other observations. At times, he has a very conventional view of history, you know. Yeah. When I get out of Prince,
Starting point is 00:17:44 and I believe like Pete has said this before, this is a guy that kind of belongs in a different epoch, if you will. Because I, he really could, could have been like a commander for like the British East India Company or going on some of these like filibuster raids during the 19th century in Latin America. But now in this insanely parasit, and Zionist-controlled system,
Starting point is 00:18:11 hyper-competent white men like him, or say even Douglas McGregor, they're just going to get pushed to the side. And you're going to see instead these lightweights like Mike Pompeo or John Bolton occupy positions of importance in the national security apparatus. And then, like, yeah, Victoria Newlin, all these just parasites and hyper-incompetent people. I do believe that we should still study these examples of Eric Prince's. I can imagine there are people under him that may actually have views that align much more with us. And I mean, if I could have a time machine, I would love to, like, have acquired some military experience
Starting point is 00:19:03 and then move to a contractor career to like build like a competing um apparatus to that but alas like you can't really do much now but um i do still see some value what he talks about in how like this entire system is just corrupt to the core and it's not based on like national defense it's really some of like the most crass forms of rent-seeking and parasitic behavior on this way. There's nothing well-intentioned about it because when I was
Starting point is 00:19:40 first getting into politics, I had the schoolhouse rock view that these institutions are impartial, their high-quality first-world services. But when you actually dig through this stuff, this stuff is banana a republic tier shit that's going on and it is only worsening
Starting point is 00:19:56 over time. Yeah. Jose, I want to jump on a point you make. I'm sorry, Tim, I'll see the floor just one second. Jose, I want to jump on a point you make and without spoiling some other things that Pete has coming up in this stream as far as I understand it. I find it interesting
Starting point is 00:20:12 that Eric Prince actually says on more than one occasion. I know I have it in my notes that I want to discuss during the stream. I know I have it in my notes, but at least on one occasion, I want to say possibly two or three, but at least on one occasion,
Starting point is 00:20:27 he says that the system and I don't want to give it away, so I'll just speak in a bit of vagary. He says that the system can be more readily repaired than we would suspect, than one would suspect, specifically the problem of the CIA. And I'm sure Pete will get to that later on in the episode. But I do think it's interesting that you're correct, Jose. Eric Prince does say that the system is completely rotten, thoroughly rotten. But I also find it interesting that he points out that there are a lot of more or less bloodless ways
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Starting point is 00:22:40 Let me read a couple more super chats before we go to the next one. Douglas Nate, he's here every week. Generally, just like paying for the reactions you get out of people. Thank you. Paladin Y Y, Y, Z again. Hey, Pete, just watch your 2-bit podcast at the end of the day number three. I was mortified to found out you had some rough things to say about libertarianism.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Get the fuck out of here. Couldn't believe my ears. And then the final thing he says is this is a $75 Uberjad. He says, Tim Kelly is on my Mount Rushmore. What a beast of the truth or community. Everybody should take a small bow to this man
Starting point is 00:23:18 as you buy this guy a coffee. Huge fan. Thank you. Matt Rushmore is. You got fans to. You got fans, Tim. Am I on Thomas Jefferson side or Teddy Roos. Maybe I'm winking.
Starting point is 00:23:32 We'll just tear them all down and start over again. All right. Let's go to the next clip. Lex and delicate and, you know, I understand to some extent. But what I don't understand is sending Kamala Harris to the Munich Security Conference and saying at a press briefing with cameras rolling to Zelensky, we want you to join NATO. You only say that if you want a war.
Starting point is 00:23:54 You want the Russians to invade. like why would they want that i i maybe maybe they're just that dumb i don't think and i think they are dumb i mean they're well they're definitely tony blinkin i mean really dumb having a rock concert in kiev during massive combat operations while the ukrainian army is getting crushed he just he just visited and he's up there on stage he's up there on stage with his guitar i'm sorry david does somebody say something or i think that was tougher. Hold on. That was Tucker saying you wanted to have to put the video one of him, Blinking, playing guitar. Oh, yeah, this is so cringe. All right, let's keep this. Oh, yeah. It's like,
Starting point is 00:24:39 that is Nero fiddling while Rome burns. Here it is. Look at the profile on the guitar. On the right. Freaking ears, man. All right, I was going to say thank you, Jose. First off, as a guy who's been in countless bands, plays guitar, plays bass, plays drums. This made my ears bleed. Please, please stop. You're a bad, you're a bad, you're. You're a bad, you're and an even worse musician if that's possible. Do not go on stage. So, yeah, I mean, he's a child, obviously, and like an angry, destructive child. But what happens?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, where does this go? We send an under $60 billion to Ukraine. Most of that money goes to five major U.S. defense contractors. Yes. To replace at five times the cost what the weapons cost that we already sent the Ukraine. meaning, you know, if we send them something that was built 10 years ago, well, now it's going to cost four and five times as much. So again, it's a massive grift paid by a Pentagon that doesn't know how to buy stuff cost effectively. It doesn't change the outcome on the battle.
Starting point is 00:25:54 The, as the fields dry, it's May now, coming up on tank season, the, was it tank season again? Weather still matters in warfare. And, you know, it's, you know, If you have a wet, snow-covered farm field, it's very muddy, very gooey, not great for tanks. Mud season. Mud season. I think the Russians call it the great Rasputtza, the great slush. Yeah. That's done now.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And as June comes, it'll be game on. And I think the Russian bear is hungry. And they're going to have a time. So the war should have been ended, never should have started. They should have made a deal, froze the lines. six months into it. But the Biden administration believed that all this American weaponry would have saved the day. It hasn't.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And it's ugly. And, you know, the Russian commanders are not idiots. They know their history. The Battle of Kersk, which happened just north of where the fighting is now, was the largest tank battle in history. It was the last offensive effort of the German army against the, the Soviets and they tried to push from the north and south on this salient. It was a bulge. And the Russians knew they were coming.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And so they built lots of lines of defenses. It's the same thing they've done that, that they did last summer, which ate up all that equipment. And now the Ukrainians are very thin. They've had a lot of corruption issues. All the defenses that were supposed to be built by the Ukrainians are much smaller or non-existent. And so now it's allowing maneuver, and especially as the tanks,
Starting point is 00:27:38 As the field's dry and you can maneuver, it's going to be a very ugly summer. Very ugly summer. What do you think the Russians want? I'd say now they want to absolutely humiliate the West and make sure that they never have a problem with Ukraine again. That seems achievable. I'm afraid so. What happens to Ukraine? I don't know if it survives as an independent country.
Starting point is 00:28:03 If they take Odessa, if they take the ability for Ukraine to export its grain, that really threatens the long-term economic viability. Maybe it goes back to, look, Western Ukraine used to be part of Poland. Right. Eastern Ukraine used to be part of Russia. So, you know, maps move depending on, you know, military victories drive diplomatic breakthroughs. So you think it's right now the Russians are winning and they're going to have a very good summer. Is there what, what's your take on his?
Starting point is 00:28:40 Let's work with Palin Y, Y, Z's saying, oh, you know, he's, say he's a Zionist. Most Zionists I know are pro-Ukraine. It sounds like he knows exactly what happened in Ukraine, and he would, you know, he's spelling it out, clearly. I'd co-sign that. I'd co-sign that he's pretty, he's pretty much saying what the inevitability is going to be. Can't just draw arbitrarily draw a line because you want it there. geography, demographics, all that stuff matters. He may not specifically mention those two things, but in a way he does because he says
Starting point is 00:29:20 Poland, he says Russia, he says, you know, he says all of it, really, but he may not use those specific terms, but he does basically boil it down to just because a bunch of bureaucrats across an ocean think that it should be another way doesn't mean it's actually that way, doesn't mean it's going to be that way, regardless of what they, regardless of, what their PowerPoint say, regardless of how their memos read? One thing I've noticed in the last few years, there has been this emergence of a faction of Zionism that's actually recognizing that the U.S. is going through a decline or is on the precipice of a decline.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So they've taken more rational positions, like say, Russia. with regards to the Russian-Ukraine conflict and have called for the U.S. to possibly retrench in certain respects out of just sheer pragmatism because it just diverts more resources away from protecting Israel or, say, confronting China. And this is most emblematic among that one guy, David Goldman, the columnist for the Asia Times, he's affiliated with the Claremont Institute. And these types, they're much more intelligent than your typical neo-conservative Zionists that you see, that's in the Trump administration or like on Fox News, MSNBC or whatever. They actually do recognize there are limits to the empire, and they're willing to concede to that this machine that's currently put in place has tons of kinks and flaws that have to be tweaked if this machine is to. continue going and I they're they're kind of like realizing like hey guys we need to like pump the brakes a bit and start reassessing stuff and that's what I could largely gather from this like new
Starting point is 00:31:26 a faction of Zionism that is recognizing that there's like limits to the empire now Tim what do you think of his um do you think he probably has a better working knowledge of of how politics works, how real politics works, than 99% of the people working in government right now. Yeah, I think he demonstrated that. I think he's, although he's a famous Christian Zionist, he's not, I don't think he was probably for the Ukraine war. I think he realizes that it was fomented or created by the West,
Starting point is 00:32:05 you know to basically keep Russia you know a week off you know off kilter because they were preventing the sort of this Eurasian formation of Eurasian trading bloc that was naturally forming between Germany, Russia and China and so you know the conflict in Ukraine goes back you know as far as back as the McKinder Doctrine and there's also the the sort of the ethnic hatred that the Jews had towards Russia and of course they're very influential these are the so-called neocons but then the states represented of course by victoria newland and company and so the war was somewhat inevitable when the moment Putin started to get Russia back on its back on your feet because the whole whole strategy I think is to keep uh Russia you can't have Russia as a strong nation state uh checking the power of the of the of the Atlantis as powers because that they're they want to be You know, they want a unipolar world, which is really historically, it's not something like to be to be detained forever. And it's megalomaniacal and crazy. And it's inevitably going to lead to war because you're going to get resistance.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And it's accelerating the climate because it just led to another round of sanctions and trade restrictions and which has accelerated the de-dollarization of the global economy, which is the financial backbone of the American economy. the dollars of world reserve currency that's why we can run up 35 trillion in debt still have the dollar as a global reserve currency and just create money out of thin air to give to Israel and Ukraine 95 billion here
Starting point is 00:33:49 100 billion here 30 billion here this money's all borrowed and the money's all it's all monetized debt and it's only made possible because the dollar for military political reasons is still a global reserve currency but the U.S. military, his other
Starting point is 00:34:05 points about U.S. military capabilities, the weapon system's not being as good as advertised. If the U.S. military is shown to be a paper tiger, the West is shown to be a paper tiger, NATO is shown to be a paper tiger, then you're going to get, that's going to accelerate due dollarization because that's the only thing to really keeping the dollar, you know, honest perch. Brought to you by Heineken Zero Zero, get the facts, be Drink Aware. Visit drinkaware.com. He claims he brought the bulletback. His short shorts are a bit too. short and he's nowhere to be found when it's his round.
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Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah, yeah. Good points. Let me read a couple of super chats here before we move on. Paladin Y Y, YZ showing his age here. Blinken is warming up for the Arsenio Hall show. Hey, it worked for Clinton. Eric has a super chat here, a big one. Thank you, Eric.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Appreciate it. A happy holiday weekend to Jose, Tim, Pete, and Charles. We celebrate our forebears and their sacrifice. However dubious any of that chicanery was, as we reflect on these things during this holiday weekend, I want to remind everyone that June is coming, an entire month celebrating sodomy. Oh, geez. Yes, the head of NATO Stoltenberg came out the other day and said that promoting LGBGQ rights was a primary mission for NATO now.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So. Yeah. Yeah, promotion of the poop dick. That's what, that's what NATO. Yeah, that's the NATO, like, these guys are phallus worshippers. what do you expect? I do want to just step back to that supertap very briefly about being Memorial Day weekend. And I do find it interesting, though, in the context of everything, I have to say Memorial Day means more to me now than it ever did before.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Just because, as we all know, the vast majority of those guys died for something. If they had really known what it was, they would have never stepped on foreign shores. So in all honesty, to me, Memorial Day is a more. sober and a more somber event than it ever has been in my in my life personally because just because those men died fighting that doesn't mean they fought for what they believed in they fought well it doesn't mean they fought for what the elite believed in so it means they fought what they thought they were fighting for for and i think that deserves i think that deserves some compassion i think that deserves some empathy and if if nothing else at least
Starting point is 00:38:05 some bittersweet admiration. I don't think we should, I don't think we should blame the men that got lied to. They didn't have the internet. They couldn't watch Tim. They couldn't listen to Pete. Like they, they just had to go off of what they were told.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And a lot of good and honorable women died. So, I just want to say that. Oh, yeah. A friend who, Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. I had a friend who fought in a,
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'm sorry, friend's father, fought in World of Two and Patton's Third Army. And he never, really recovered from the war he talked about it he lived a long life afterwards he died about uh 12 years ago uh so he lived a long life typical war story they came home and finished law school and built a very good life for for his family in post war america the post war boom solidly middle class of very proud italian of course none of his kids
Starting point is 00:38:57 all his kids were deracinated middle class suburban americans truly a late 20th century American success story in all in all dimensions good and bad really but when he passed away before he passed away he put a sort of a five page memoir as motivations in the war it's handwritten
Starting point is 00:39:17 and he was 16 going on 17 in 1943 and he signed up he had a deferment because his grade they wanted to put him on the tractor med school he ended up going to law school but he was
Starting point is 00:39:33 He got his friend's older brother was killed by the Japanese during the baton death march. That would have been in 1942. So in 1943, 44, he signs up. He ends up in Europe killing Germans. I mean, I still, you know, not to get off on the tangent, but to kind of prove your point a little bit, I think I've mentioned this on one of Pete's shows previously. But my grandfather, God rest his soul, who's born in 1905, I, I, my father still remembers his father, my grandfather born in 1905, still remembers him saying, why are we fighting
Starting point is 00:40:09 the Germans? They didn't bomb us. Yeah. It's like America, people forget, and this is, and I'll circle this all back to Eric Prince. People forget, or they don't know, forget they've been lied to, excuse me. Americans have been staunchly isolationist for the vast majority of its history. And even if you look at the Second World War, the only real support that got was post-bombing in Japan, excuse bombing by Japan. And that, and even that only got directed at Japan. So that's one of my issues with Eric Prince. I believe one of your commenters said, I'm trying to read the sidebar as we go through. And yes, Jonah, the guitar was terribly out of to the one of the side commenters was saying that with the with the war it just i i'm sorry i got a
Starting point is 00:41:07 little emotional there i kind of lost my train of thought but in regards to the isolationist one of the commenters was saying that prince has two interested in foreign involvement and i i agree with that take it seems like his answer is constant foreign involvement yeah and i understand Prince's desire for far involvement insofar as he doesn't want the Chinese to get the uranium. He doesn't want the Russians to get the gold, whatever. Somebody's got to get it. I know, but that's really, really a sticky wicket. That's really a dicey situation for me because I believe even Tucker calls him out at one point or another during the interview,
Starting point is 00:41:48 not specifically about that issue, but saying, you know, hey, well, if we do X, isn't it very likely we, we're going to do why. I think it was about giving the government power, giving the military power, giving law enforcement power, which obviously, as Pete knows, is a big issue for me. But yeah, that's my issue with Prince to tie it all back to the wars, tie it all back to foreign involvement, tie back to American isolation. It's the presumption. Is that I, yeah, go ahead, Tim, please, I don't talk over it. It's the presumption that America has to be evolved in some, some type of great game all the time. Right. Yeah. And I know it's, it's in a swash, buckling. It's interesting. There's intrigue
Starting point is 00:42:27 and there's forces to be made and stories to be told. But really, we have a vast continent with our own problems and really, he's talking about the military problems with our weapons weapons and, you know, Russians are learning and they're getting better. That's true, and that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:42:43 That's why one reason we should be fomenting a war, one of many reasons. But we have this vast continent in two vast oceans to defend both sides. So America really can afford to be, if you don't like to term isolation, it's not interventionist, and certainly not having the sort of this idea that we have to impose rules on the world and govern the world and make it better.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Of course, that's the last thing that the Neocons, the Jewish Neuracons want to do. They're simply using the American Empire as a tool to achieve their objectives and fulfill their ambitions, which are ethno-religious, of course. These things go back, which are Talmudic. And that's something, again, this is something that we're not allowed to talk. about as a motivation force motivation motivating force behind these policies how they organize and how they seem to get always get their way because we can't talk about it in those terms so it's like you can't identify your enemy how can you
Starting point is 00:43:39 engage them much less defeat them but yes it's just a pre that ever since ever since well it goes back to wilson really well maybe it further back than that 1898 really was wilson but it really really the aftermath of war war war two when there was the national security state was created and bureaucratized and institutionalized and the Cold War. And, you know, it was one of the bucky said for the duration of the conflict, we have to put up with nuclear power, nuclear weaponry, bureaucrat, you know, bureaucratic, national intelligence, that sort of stuff. Well, the problem is the duration would never end.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You know, that was the plan, you know, that conflict. Yeah, that wasn't a bug. That was a feature. I agree with you 100%. Yeah, 100%. Agreed. And just real quick to address some comments on the side, just very briefly. Somebody mentioned the doughboys in World War I.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's like, oh, that's my, I have a saying that every white man eventually turns 40 and becomes enamored with one war. It could be the revolution, American Revolution. It could be the Civil War. It could be World War I, World War II. That's most popular. World War I is mine. So, yeah, I could talk at length about that, but we'll skip it for today. But no withstand the storm that I absolutely am with you on that one.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And also another comment there. Somebody recommended the board. book called Myth of German Villany. I've read that. I do recommend that very much. It contextualizes much of the Second World War and the Germans' ethnic dispute with the Jews, the Jewish people. I highly recommend that if you have not read it, give it a read. So sorry to John. I don't think they're good. That's fine. Before I do the start the audio again, read a couple super chats. Wolf Larson 74 over on Odyssey says the West is humiliating itself. great stream thus far gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Paladin Y Y YZ, another super chat over on entropy. Thank you. He says, Charles said it best. It's a conundrum. I'm not saying the typical, I'm not saying the typical, he's a J crap. Just that his father invented a vanity, a vanity mirror, amassed a huge fortune, started a Christian 501C3 funding the Christian right. His son and EMT inherited the $1.8 billion and started a global security company just like most of us in the chat um
Starting point is 00:45:56 yeah just build your own PMC just build your own PMC yeah pull yourself by your own bootstraps can somebody email me or telegram me a copy of that super chat i want to hold on to that for a little while thank you for that i'm sincere somebody telegram me that prince went prince went to annapolis dropped out after a year and a half went to Hillsdale College, did the volunteer fire department. Then he joined the Navy and became a Navy SEAL. Okay. He's not an EMT.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I mean, I understand that you're being hyperbolic and everything, but there's a little more to the guy, too. Well, yeah, I think he's demonstrated. I think he's very capable. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I don't think anybody here on the, nobody on the stream is disagreeing that he is, that he's capable. Nobody's saying that.
Starting point is 00:46:52 No. This guy is very different. It's just different from today's ruling class because today's ruling class is just like very much goes for comfort and leisure. Yeah, because they're a group of hedonists. And I mean, I said this before when Trump started gaining ground in 2015. I remember remarking,
Starting point is 00:47:15 I forget if I remarked on Twitter, if I have any Twitter followers in the audience, you're welcome to check and see. But I remember remarking that as a man of my age and Pete's my age, and I, so I'm saying the real reason Trump is gaining ground is nobody has seen what real leadership is in 50 years. I would suspect, Pete, you would co-sign me on that because we haven't really seen real leadership, I would say almost throughout our entire lives, at least at that political
Starting point is 00:47:46 level. Everybody's just been a bureaucrat that swapped seats with somebody else. That's it. There wasn't really any real charisma. There wasn't any real speaking ability. And that was, that was it. I mean, that was the only reason was gaining ground. I never thought Trump was even that impressive. But he, but compared to his ilk, compared to his competition,
Starting point is 00:48:08 it's just, it's, it's just, he's just head and shoulders over. I'll kind of quote D.E. I'll quote D.E. from here. where he said, you know, I would be a millionaire. I'd have $3 million if I could compete and actually legitimately compete with these other, these other casters, these other mainstream news people, not because I'm so great because they're so awful. And I thought that was the same thing about Trump. He's not particularly great, but everybody else is just a bland goo.
Starting point is 00:48:37 That's true. I mean, I'm not speaking for myself, but other people that I see, Pete included, the type of level of broadcasting, the voices I often hear, the quality of what they broadcast, the message they send. Former talented anything you see in the media. But that's the thing. You can also apply it to the political class. There's a reason why we have to suffer a Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden or even Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:49:04 is they don't want quality leadership. So this is sort of a negative vetting process. So we get essentially the cacostockish that we have rule the worst. System designs produce politicians like this because they can. You can do business with them. And you can talk about Jeff. Brownstone operations, these sort of things. Compromised politicians are all bribed.
Starting point is 00:49:25 They're all venal. And that's what you want to put a class with an oligar. Well, Tim, I don't know if you've seen me say this on Twitter or not, because I've gotten into this. I've pointed this out to people many times. That's the reason the trans thing is such a big deal. That's the reason we're flying the pride flag everywhere. because it started out that the FBI, and to a lesser extent, the CIA, would get all these homosexuals, these closeted homosexuals,
Starting point is 00:49:53 back when you couldn't even enter the United States if you identified as gay, you literally couldn't, and they would get them, and then they'd put them in these offices because they're easy to blackmail. Yep. Right? That's a classic technique, right? Okay, well, the problem is what happens if 30% of the people you put in there are homosexuals? What happens when it goes to 40%?
Starting point is 00:50:16 Well, now they're starting to effectively control your system. So what do they do? They start pushing for gay stuff. They start pushing for trans stuff. They start pushing for degeneracy. Why? Yeah, because they like it. But that's not the real reason.
Starting point is 00:50:31 The real reason is because once they normalize it, you don't have a hold over them anymore. Now they can do what they want. So the problem with that the FBI and the CIA ran into is that they got lazy, they got stupid, and they just kept reusing a trick, a tactic that worked. And they reused it and used it and reused it and reused it again. And then they built an entire structure that can now turn around and say,
Starting point is 00:51:01 that thing that you have leverages, the thing that you use for leverage on us, we've just kicked that out. That's done now. So now we can do whatever we want. If we want to give ourselves billions, we'll give ourselves billions. And that's what you're seeing today. That's exactly what you're seeing today. Yeah, I think what I kept from getting security clearance
Starting point is 00:51:21 25 years ago, 30 years ago, now is being celebrated for the entire month. And it's part of our U.S. and NATO foreign policy to promote it. Well, I just want to doge here in the comments that worked for a pre-Black Water Prince manifestation professional, somewhat idiosyncratic, intelligent, thoughtful, but it completely encapsulated in a military mindset, if that makes sense. Yeah, he's completely, I mean, that's why I say he's like a man from another time. The only thing he thinks about, he eats, sleeps, and drinks, military and strategy, and, and what, I mean, is that not obvious to everybody? That's, that's what makes this guy, that's what makes the guy most interesting. And I have a
Starting point is 00:52:14 super chat over here from Pete Budapest that I would like to address. Pete Budapest says, okay, I'll continue the pile on and get it out of my system. How is Prince not just neoconservative, just more competent? Okay. One, he would have never gotten, he would have never, the neocons were the ones who orchestrated the whole Ukraine thing. He's said that he would know, he knows that that would be horrific, for Ukraine and for NATO.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Also, he has said that Israel should be paying their own way. If they want to have their war, they need to pay for it. They need to do it themselves. If they want money from us, they need to pay it back. That's not how neoconservatives talk. No. Neoconservatives are Israel first, Jewish interests above all. And that's not how he operates.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Yeah, and again, the suffering that... But he'll, but he will benefit from it. And fuck, I would do the same fucking thing. If I had a, if I had a private army, if I had a PMC, and these guys were going to war, these guys were going to war, I'm like, well, the money is going to be, the money is going to be out there. Fuck it. I'm taking it. Well, we talk about today's political crisis or predicament, if you will,
Starting point is 00:53:39 our situation. we have to assess a situation, acknowledge it. Like they said, in a, the country, a move for no country for old men, acknowledge your situation. There's more dignity with it in doing so. Perhaps, and this is something, if there should, maybe 10, 15 years from now,
Starting point is 00:53:59 Eric Prince-like figure is going to be necessary to come in on a white horse, sort of a Franco character, to settle things, to clear, clear assist them out. Because, you know, I think I've said this to you, Pete is that I don't think the solution to problems with
Starting point is 00:54:13 late stage Empire America are going to occur through the electoral process or for normal political method or channels. It could be something external and exogenous to the system of crisis and someone's going to step in and that person might need his own private army.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, Tim, I really like what you're saying here because I'm kind of formulating the same thought. I think Prince is just half of a pincer movement. Yeah. If you really want things to change, Prince's hit one arm of the pincers. That's what he is. He needs somebody else as the other, as the other arm in the pincer movement to really retake the ground. I will not fail to give Prince credit for what he has and what he has done, but I just don't think he has, if you'll forgive me, that X factor.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I think there is something missing from him. Perhaps it's his two. too gung-ho military attitude. Perhaps it's just some part of his outlook just doesn't seem like it's holistic enough. But I think he would be ideal as the left hand, you know, or the sword arm, if you will, if you prefer. But I don't think he's it, so to speak. I can see that too. Paladin Y Y, Y, Z, another supertist says he was an EMT, went on to paramedic. I didn't, went on to paramedic, which most of these guys, which most of those guys get their
Starting point is 00:55:41 hours built up through the firefighters by doing their volunteer time. I'm 100% where he's in he was an EMT. He says he was an EMT. Just saying that's not all he was. And one point eight billion dollars is if he, if his dad did give him $1.8 billion, he could have just walked away, could have just walked away from it all. And that's what I would have done. If my, if my parents were worth $1.8 billion, I'm, probably if they had a business that needed to keep running, I would have kept running it, but it looks like they sold off that part of a business long ago, and now it's just investments and things like that.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I mean, I would have, that's what I would have became. He's something different. Didn't he sell out a lot of cash to like Catholics or something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:33 When he converted, he's a Catholic convert, has like 10 kids. Yeah. He's a much more interesting. same character than just this, you know, mercenary. And Karen's over here in the Karen's over here spouting, Karen, you're just spouting like libertarian talking points saying he was responsible for the white helmets in Syria.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Has anybody ever heard that accusation before? No. No, they were like a fake group. They were staging, what they staging, uh, victims from, from the Assad regime. yeah yeah like this is all part of
Starting point is 00:57:17 yeah it's a billing cat or something or videos and who's like cats was her name the lady
Starting point is 00:57:25 he would get all these videos of people of victims of the bondings and all that when yeah I don't remember what her name is
Starting point is 00:57:32 but cats cats sounds about right yeah yeah it's got that ring to it a bit of an echo Eric says
Starting point is 00:57:41 um Pride go with before destruction and the spirit is lifted up before a fall proverb 1618 pride month the name is a comedy for failure um at charles i'm not he just wants you know i'm not shitting on my forebearers in the least they didn't know but they were men they went to war came home went to work and read the paper oh yeah oh i'm not saying yeah oh yeah no i'm with you 100% on that one a lot of had drinking problems? Yeah, I'm not saying these men were perfect. No, that's not my point at all. No, I'm just saying, you know, a lot of these guys just suffered unfairly and unreasonably,
Starting point is 00:58:21 and they did what they thought was right with the information they had. That's the most you can ask of any man. That's the most, as you get older, you realize just how limited your vision is. And as you're older, you wish if there's one thing you could get back, it would be time. I don't know any man with any reasonable amount of wisdom that wouldn't choose if he could have one wish basically I want to be younger but knowing what I know now.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Like I mean that's the ultimate like of course you want that like that's that's it. So again all I'm trying to say is the older a man gets the more he realizes that he would have lived differently had he had certain wisdom.
Starting point is 00:59:04 I believe it was Mark Twain that said When I was 16, I thought my father was an idiot. When I was 25, I realized just how much he had learned since I was 16. And it's like that it's, and it's such a great deprecating joke. Because again, all men realize, like, if only they'd known what they would, if I could know then, what I know now. So yeah, I'm not in no point am I saying these guys are perfect. I'm just saying they deserve human compassion.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And I'm a Christian. I believe everybody here is a Christian. They certainly deserve Christian compassion and empathy. The real Tariq Nishid over on Rumble, Super Chat, says, Prince is a Fed, the music artist, not Eric. All right, so I'm going to start the next. The Prophet here formerly known as Prince. Oh, nice, Tim, well played.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And I will remind everybody that if somebody, if there is one person who comes along to do something to change things, a Caesar type of figure, they come from the inside. Caesar came from the inside. What? Pinochet came from the inside. It's not somebody from the outside coming in. I can think of one person who was sorted from the outside who came in, but he did. serve in the Austrian army in World War I. So yeah, let's uh, let's let's remember this. And that's not necessarily why we're talking, why we're covering this.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Sure, he's come out from, he seemed to be in hiding for about eight years. And now all of a sudden he's all over the place. I just think it's interesting considering he's probably one of the most well-read history men in the last 50 years. One of the most well-weigh, well-weigh, well read on history, military men in the last 50 years, in the last 50 years, maybe 100 years. But also, it seems like every interview I've watched in the last six months with him, he has a chip on his shoulder about something. And I don't think he has a chip on it. I don't think he has a chip on his shoulder, you know, towards the American public.
Starting point is 01:01:31 May I say something real quick before we continue, please speak? I will not presume to know Eric Prince's mind because I don't, obviously. I'm not God and I have no psychic abilities. But I can speak as somebody who was wrongfully terminated from his law enforcement career by the federal government. I can speak as somebody like Mr. Prince in the sense of, no, I don't come from any money, but as somebody who grew up wanting to do, wanting to serve. Because he says that specifically in the interview, that he wanted to serve his country,
Starting point is 01:02:05 he wanted to serve his community. I was very much like that. I suspect, and again, I don't know, but I suspect Prince feels very betrayed by the people that he, by the occupying force of his government. I won't say his people. Yeah, yeah. I won't say, but by the occupying force of his government. And I suspect, and I don't mean to infantilize Mr. Prince, but I suspect he is much like me, that there is an 8-year-old boy, 10-year-old boy, 11-year-old boy inside of him that just feels absolutely crushed and betrayed and lied to, that all the stuff he spent his life working toward, this noble idea that he wanted to serve, that he wanted to foster,
Starting point is 01:02:55 that he wanted to ferment, all turned out to be nothing but a big pile of perfumed garbage. And I suspect that is the chip. that he has on his shoulder. That's a good point. Again, just my phone. Yeah, I was observing his, this is physical appearance. He's obviously kept himself in pretty good shape for an older guy.
Starting point is 01:03:14 There's a lot of pride there and a lot of, you know, you can infer from that. But also the idea that he thought he was fighting a good fight and making money at the same time. That's nothing unique in that. A lot of people can make that rationalization or justification for what they're doing. He's providing a service. He's, you know, an efficient service for the, you know, an efficient service for the, US military he's fighting terrorism he's a lot of many references the global war on terror
Starting point is 01:03:39 and fighting terrorists and all that he seems to didn't really question the narrative of the of that by the way just talk about you could have could have come up with a better plan for Afghanistan you know I don't buy that really I think if you know we should leave Afghanistan to the to the Afghanis but um yeah I think he's he's a true believer and he realizes that he was you know although he's filthy rich he
Starting point is 01:04:05 He realized he was taking advantage of in one way or another, and he feels his country has been taking advantage of. He's a true believer in America and the American system, the American way, and he feels been betrayed. Yes. Now, you know, my feeling of America is eventually, if you buy into the American-Americanism, you're going to feel betrayed because it's what we're seeing now is sort of it playing out the way it was going to have.
Starting point is 01:04:28 It's a thought, philosophy behind it. That's a whole not a day. But the whole point is he feels betrayed. and that's a good point yeah um perhaps i might be stretching it here
Starting point is 01:04:43 but i do think a guy of like eric prince's intellect he could actually be convinced of a lot of our ideas like whatever flaws you may have they could be just ironed out you somehow get this guy in a room
Starting point is 01:04:58 because he's actually quite intelligent and to be quite honest um We don't have much military muscle to begin with once a potential clash goes out. I'd rather have people the likes of Prince or at least a successor that doesn't have the ideological baggage. Because I just think that he is a product ultimately of this epoch, and that's why you see he may have some of these flawed priors. But overall, I'd rather have certain like dissident elements of the elite on our.
Starting point is 01:05:33 side that are actually useful because when we're talking about trying to get elites on our side we're not talking about getting the likes of like freaking bill crystal mic compo in these types i'd rather get types that like prints that are hyper-competent and have an axed grind and that have shown a degree of intellect that's a good point uh because um pete you've talked a lot about is the idea of a circulation of elites, that sort of theory of, elites are always all the ones that rule, the idea of sort of a dissident elite.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And obviously if you're getting a distant elite to challenge the current corrupt elite, they're going to have to come from the system, right? I mean, they're not going to realize out of the ether. They're going to be product of the system. We realize, A, as far as something is done,
Starting point is 01:06:24 and they're going to be tainted. What do we have? Yeah. All right. Let me, I see, Pauli B. Paladin has another super chat. The right honorable has a super chat. But let me play the next audio and we'll come back to you. I promise I'll get to you guys.
Starting point is 01:06:43 All right. Is there anybody who's knowledgeable on the subject who believes Ukraine can, quote, win, which is to say push Russian troops all the way back to the old Russian border? Well, I didn't really believe it ever. Oh, I know that. But I don't know who's advising the white. White House at this point or who they're listening to, but they probably need to change out their advisor list. But then you have the Secretary of State, our buffoonish Secretary of State, Tony Blinken, boomer parity, showing up and telling the Ukrainians during his rock concert that, you know, we're with you forever.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Like, how could you say something like that when I've never met a single person who knows anything about the region who thinks Ukrainians will achieve victory no matter how much money we send them? How could you say something like that? It's good money after bad. And all we're doing now is facilitating the demise of Ukrainian men and destroying them for future generations. So how many have died? I've asked members of Congress who are funding this stuff. Hundreds of thousands. But here's what I understand.
Starting point is 01:07:49 If you're paying for this war, which the United States is, the U.S. Congress is, Mike Johnson is, don't you have a moral obligation to know its consequences? Like, how can you just, how can you get up there? the Ukrainian lapel pin and talk about the brave Ukrainian people who are being killed by the hundreds of thousands and you don't even keep track of the casualties like aren't you kind of a monster for doing that I don't understand and you look at if you if you made the pictures of the modern battle space on the front a little grainy and black and white yep it's indistinguishable from the Battle of the Somme or World War I well that's what exactly right artillery a grinding crushing
Starting point is 01:08:27 pointless loss of humanity but it's being abetted by our policymakers. Like they they're responsible for this to some extent. Like what? And and it's it's shocking how uniparty government has become. You don't seem shocked that they don't care about how many Ukrainians have died. They don't care about how many US troops die. Really good point. No, it's totally fair point. Because they because they'll send they'll send US troops to war with a whole bunch of cockamamie rules of engagement and policies and it's just not a serious way to wage warfare. The, the whole premise of GWAT was that we could, by surgical, by American magic and precision, we could always just clip off the head of the snake and the whole
Starting point is 01:09:12 body would die of the snake. And that's just, that flies in the face of every kind of warfare. When you look back to World War II, we killed off 30% of the German male population. World War I, same. American Civil War, same. The, the continental wars in Europe in the 17, 1800s, back to the Punic and Pelbanesian wars. You destroy their manpower, the logistics, and their finance. This cutting off the head of the snake is a fool's errand. Is there any president? So what's he saying there?
Starting point is 01:09:49 Anyone? I mean, in what sense do you mean that in what sense? Could you clarify the question a bit, please? In what sense is Eric? What do you mean exactly? clarify the question. He's basically, I think he's revealing
Starting point is 01:10:06 what war is. What modern war is? Modern war is this piecemeal thing that you basically get into these long, prolonged battles, which enriches one group of people instead of doing
Starting point is 01:10:24 what Germany did at the beginning of the war, Blitz Creek. You just go and you just, bomb. You know, Thomas 777 said at the beginning of the Ukraine war when Putin invaded, he said, he said Putin has already just the way he invaded was the mistake. If he wanted to invade Ukraine, what does he do? Take out Kiev. What is the point of these limited wars? Well, the point is to make money. I mean, that's the point. Tim and I mentioned that earlier, that that That is the point.
Starting point is 01:11:02 The point isn't to win. The point is perpetual warfare. And this is my issue with Prince. Prince, again, and forgive me for perhaps projecting here. But again, I feel of kinship to Prince because when I was younger, I consider joining the Foreign Legion. And then my family talked me out of it. And then when I was a little older, I was like, I was like, I thought this looks cool. These mercenary companies and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I was like, maybe I'll do that. Like, no. so I just went into law enforcement. Then when I got fired from that, I thought about going Blackwater, but they wouldn't take me because I wasn't any like real badass or anything. But the point I'm trying to make is like, I don't think,
Starting point is 01:11:41 I think Prince's money and his upbringing have shielded him from certain realities. And those realities are he still thinks somewhere that somebody up there is making decisions and wants to achieve the things he wants to achieve. And they don't. That's the problem. Nobody wants it.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Like the reason Trump failed, and Trump has his failings, don't get me wrong. But the reason Trump failed, really, at the end of the day, is because he didn't understand nobody wants to fix anything. It's not in their interest to fix anything. It's like I used to complain about COVID. No, everybody wanted COVID. Everybody from the far left to the far right wanted COVID to be the new Black Plague 2.0. Everybody wanted it. And it's the same thing here.
Starting point is 01:12:30 The reason what we're doing doesn't work is because the mass of people is not understanding that their goal is not the same goal as the elites. And I use elite. I don't know. Let me drop the term elite. I don't like that. These people are buffoons. But I'll just say the occupational government.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Their goal is to make money and to kill, let's be honest, white guys. And their massacre on white guys over in you. Ukraine. They're massacring white soldiers here, although our army is becoming increasingly diverse, which is probably why we're moving on to more technical and drones and stuff. So we don't lose our certain class of people. But I mean, that's the end-all-be-all, is where you doing this tactic, it's precisely because it doesn't work in the sense that most people want it to, but it works flawlessly for what they want. Because what you don't understand is, and I'm going to mispronounce this, but what people are understanding is, what he's trying to explain is
Starting point is 01:13:32 warfare traditionally is not fighting a Liernan Hydra. Like you can't be this Greek hero cutting off the heads of this thing that keep regrowing. Like it's, it's just going to keep regrowing because you don't have a magic sword. This Liernan Hydra is you're going to keep cutting off heads of it. It doesn't work that. That's how the modern warfare works. It's like if you keep cutting the head, it's just going to grow back. You have to demolish infrastructure. You have to kill people. You have to ruin economies.
Starting point is 01:14:04 That's how you achieve victory. But as Tim and I said, and I'll wrap it up with this so I don't ramble, as Tim and I were saying, that's what these people want. They want eternal warfare. They want us fighting over here because then they can sell trucks for $6 million and then $60 million and then $600 million. That's the whole point. And then they can throw that money to all their occupational government friends and the
Starting point is 01:14:26 and the ball keeps rolling. Right, Tim, isn't this what we were talking about earlier? Just keeping the warfare perpetual. Yeah, it's the business model, I guess you could say, of constant warfare. The thing is, people still think that there's something, our government has some sense of like national interests, and they don't represent the American people. They don't recognize an American interest or American people, watch in the sort of a metropole or international business interest.
Starting point is 01:14:56 let's say, you know, with, you know, obviously Zionist Jews are the most prominent ones, predominant ones right now. But it's, you know, this has been the case for decades, if not a century, for America. The whole 20th century, that's just the story of America since the 20th century, just that we had the American century, so-called, and prosperity, and it seemed to, everyone seemed to get their beaks wet for a while, at least the majority did. Now it's sort of entering a different phase. And their plan is different now. Obviously, their plan is dissolve the country. That's why you have underhand of my Hercas at the Homeland Security,
Starting point is 01:15:40 not enforcing the borders on purpose. It's not a bug. It's a feature in the system. Exactly, exactly. I want to read a couple superchats here, and I'm going to save one for a, for, for last because I want that this could be a discussion here. All right. So Paul E.B. says Prince isn't one of us, but he, what he most positively represents is the type of power
Starting point is 01:16:07 block with which we can actually negotiate, reorienting the Gibbs of government dollars to the war fighting class and rural America. That is currently impossible, even laughable to contemplate. But what Prince, it could possibly happen. Do you understand what do you say? Yeah. Yeah. I should agree with that to some extent, too.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yeah. Paladin Y Y Y, Z, not shitting on the guy. I'm exploring the nuances between him being a guy that eats and sleeps the military, with him also eating and sleeping military contracts. I think he was also part of the GeoCore, a private prison company. All those guys were FBI and CIA. He could be super legit. He's a mixed bag.
Starting point is 01:16:56 All I'm saying. The right honorable, I'm sold. Let's give Prince a standing army of $5,000 and have him take, say, Eastern Oregon in Minecraft. I was thinking, March on Washington. Go ahead. Yeah, March on Washington. Paladin, Y, Y, Y, Z. If any of us had quarters, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:21 If any of us had rich parents involved in politics and big business, we would be hanging. out with some serious serpents, you would also learn to speak fluent serpent. Does not make you a serpent. But, okay, so Montana Nationalist says, who cares if the guy supposedly did bad things or made money off of a war? I can't stand moralistic arguments like that. He's powerful, a potential ally, an elite, and guarantee would not tolerate faggot-story-time hour in his town.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Okay, perhaps I was misunderstood. I'm not, I don't have a problem with Prince. I was saying that his problem was that he was failing to understand that the system fights that way on purpose. Like that's that my problem isn't with Prince. I'm with Prince that if we want to accomplish the goals, then yes, we have to fight the way he is suggesting. What I was saying was that he fails to understand that it was it is a to just to keep it TLDR just like Tim said it is a it is a feature not a a bug and he needs to come to terms with they do not their goals do not align with his they are just lying to get him and his boys to die for them that's all I was saying the TLDR I think one of the things that Montana nationalists is saying and I know him I talked to him um is basically
Starting point is 01:18:54 we're at the point where there's like a crown lying in the gutter and no one and it sounds like prince wants to pick it up okay so i mean is is he going to be worse than what we have right now no but my no no not at all i'm not saying that i was again my point was merely to say that he needs to understand the the battle that he's fighting because he's too busy he that's my issue with him is he doesn't understand the battle he's really fighting because he's looking at it like it's a standard war it's not a standard war he's like every other soldier he's fighting the last war not the current one he doesn't understand that his enemies do not fight with knives they do not fight with guns they fight with deception
Starting point is 01:19:44 they fight with lies they fight with manipulation look at the man he is ready for physical confrontation in his mid to late 50s yeah that's admirable i'm not cutting this man down. Do not misunderstand me. I am saying he just needs to understand, and I will prove my honesty with my consistency. He is an excellent sword arm for whoever gets what the problems really are. He is an excellent sword arm. I have no problem with this guy, but does he really get the problems that we have? I don't think he does. Now, maybe he does, and I'm wrong. Maybe he just doesn't want to say it on Tucker. Maybe he doesn't want to tip his hand. That would certainly be strategically savvy. But I am not getting the impression. I am getting the impression he is a younger,
Starting point is 01:20:34 more vigorous, probably more savvy General Mathis. That's what I am thinking this guy is, is Mathis improved. If you know who I'm talking about there, General Jane. Yeah, I would even, I would even disagree with that. I'm seeing more for, I'm seeing more from him. I think I think what my friend here is one of the problems he has is what we're hearing is what I'm hearing is a lot of libertarian talking points when it comes to war. This is all about the money. This is all about this. This is all about that. To me, Ukraine is not about the money. The money is good for whoever it is. It's about an ethnic feud that's 500 years old. Oh, I agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing about, you know, when you start talking about war and someone brings up taxes, oh, where are tax dollars going? That's libertarian pussy bullshit. Okay?
Starting point is 01:21:37 That's not real politic. Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland, the Jewish congressman from Maryland, it matters, said, I think it was last year, that the United States must stand by Ukraine because you can't. let Russia prevail because Russia is the most powerful anti-LGBQ force in the world today. Meaning the issue is promoting degeneracy and perversion. That's why we need to defeat Russia.
Starting point is 01:22:08 And I think Jamie, Raskin, was being honest there. Because that's how you, that's how you get rid of, well, get of the white man, which is really the Christian. And that's, that's, this motivation whether jami rasky knows it himself it's it's ethnic it's an ethnic feud that goes back
Starting point is 01:22:26 two thousand years you know uh and so when that's why uh everywhere nato goes the rainbow flag goes now everywhere the u.s flag the rainbow fly goes um and it's and that is a that is a sort of a war on humanity it's it's slow genocide when you start promoted that degeneracy because this well because it's degenerate and if you degenerate you don't regenerate uh the same or it's killing hundreds of thousands of young men who will never have children. And the women of the Ukraine will go off into the West and either marry or becomes sex workers. Either way, the Ukrainian race or ethnicity goes away and opens up for a book, which I think they have plans and designs to develop it after the war. And Putin's standing in their way, you know.
Starting point is 01:23:19 So the, he came back with, my buddy came back with another super chat. He said, why would he not understand the battle he is fighting? Also keep in mind, he is formulating his message to people who are above us. He's, yeah, he's, I'm of the opinion he's talking to other elites. Okay, that could very well be true. There are just some of us, there are some of us out here who can, who have educated ourselves enough to be able to interpret what elites are saying and when they're communicating to each other. He said the regime scapegoated his private, his PMC, and he says, I think he hates them.
Starting point is 01:24:05 And I think that's true. You know, people complain about, people complain about Blackwater did this, this crime, this war crime. Compare the bad shit that Blackwater was accused of and multiply that. a hundred times with what the regular army does. I mean, how many, what did Blackwater, what do they really have like one real black eye? I can, I could read you. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:24:34 What's their size? Yeah, but what's their size compared to the Army? Yeah, but what's their size compared to the Army? Yeah, but, well, if they have one incident that they're, I mean, the American, the American Army was taking ear, there were platoons that were taking ears in Afghanistan. There were, there were platoons that were going into homes
Starting point is 01:24:56 and slaughtering whole families and taking... Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I have no doubt Blackwater is better than their PRs were better than their detractors say. I have no doubt. He says specifically in the interview, he makes all of his guys retake the oath they took when they were in law enforcement and when they were in the military. He makes them all re-swear an oath to the Constitution of the United States. Again, that's why, and I'm, I'm certainly willing to concede quite a few points,
Starting point is 01:25:26 but I'm going to stand by mine where I really think this is a guy who is still reliving his trauma of being had, not to get too fru-frou, but of being betrayed. And that shows what I said earlier, that he really does believe in these things. He believes in the Constitution. I just think it's interesting that this man literally makes his men swear an oath to the, Constitution when most people are in McIntyre himself you know all think that the cons that adherence to the Constitution is silly at this point but he still makes them swear to it so I have no doubt his men are probably extremely honorable and head and shoulders probably feet above above the his competition but again that just
Starting point is 01:26:12 goes back to my point of I don't know that he really understands the battle he is fighting because again they all swear and oath to the Constitution. Would he not understand the Constitution just got us where we are now? But I mean, we could all, that's just the point I'm trying to make. That's the point I'm trying to make is I don't know if he understands the battle. Maybe he does. Maybe you're right and I'm just not at that level. All I really know about this man is what I've seen from the interview. So, by all means, I'm happy to be corrected. Someone said, if it permits what's happened, that's not good. If it's fair to prevent what happened, it's still no good.
Starting point is 01:26:49 exactly, Tim. One more super chat, and I'll play the next one, says Representative Raskin was even more direct and grotesque in that statement. He specifically attacked Russian Orthodoxy, a truly disgusting maniacal creature. Thank you. Yes, he did. He attacked specifically Christianity, Orthodox Christianity, yes. And can you imagine that if a Catholic or a Christian politician has specifically attacked, you know, Judaism? Yeah, yeah. Pure Palm over on Odyssey says, I've been listening to Tim for what seems like forever.
Starting point is 01:27:29 And our interesting times, it's essential listening in my opinion. Tim, I'd love to hear a conversation between you and Thomas 777 on the post-war War II Nuremberg regime. Excellent stream today, gents. Thanks so much for the panel in kind of this regards. I might be able to hook. I might be able to hook that up. Okay, yeah, that would be good. All right. Let me play this next one. Doesn't occur very often.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Patton, who's been maligned since his death, remarkable human being. And of course, Hollywood is, I don't know, how many movies they've done telling us Patton was bad. But, you know, there are some suggestions that Patton was also murdered. Do you think that that's possible? It'd be a hell of a difficult, well, I don't know if the traffic accident, the Jeep rollover. Yeah, yeah, but he survived it and then died later. I, man, I don't know, but he hated the Soviets. He hated communism.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Oh, I know. So I don't want to get too far afield here, but I, that does seem like a pivot point in world history, where that, you know, April, 1945, Hitler kills himself. Berlin is occupied by the Russians, et cetera, et cetera. We win in Europe. And then we sort of like kind of pivot toward the Soviet Union for. for a few years until maybe the Rosenbergs were. Yeah. Well, and even the amount of communist agents that were surrounding Roosevelt.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Oh, well, yes. Of course. Well, Harry Hopkins literally a Soviet agent. Yeah, right. So, um, but, like, why did that happen? Like, how do we fight this war for freedom and then wind up, so handing Poland to Stalin, for example, or on the side of the totalitarian? Handing all of those countries of the world.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Of course. Yeah. It showed. So how is this a war for freedom if we're handing half of? An exhaustion of moral leadership. Yeah. I think. Who was that?
Starting point is 01:29:28 Who do you think if we could hold one person responsible for that? Truman was president. Yeah. Because Roosevelt was dead. So as Churchill said, he died in the traces. But I think, I think when you look at history, the lie of socialism, communism, it is such a, it's, it's easy for, elitists to love that paradigm because it's because the because the right wing austrian school economics approach is massive decentralization yeah decision making at the micro level a farmer knows what prices
Starting point is 01:30:06 are has a good idea what demand is going to be decides whether he's going to plant more acres that that year or not and takes that risk himself the soviet planner says i need everyone to plant this many acres and we're going to do it at this price and it's it's the lie of individual incentive versus massive central planning to the betterment of elite thinking right with it with it with the grift that goes with it and that's just a that's like a mindworm disease that so many people continue generation after generation continue to fall for yeah it's a mom-based system where a mom-based system is an interesting little comment i wanted to ask cosay this um Jose, what was your take on him bringing up Austrian economics there?
Starting point is 01:30:57 I was going to mention this as well. I find it interesting when he named dropped Lou Rockwell, too, in that interview, when he was like chilling with Lou Rockwell, apparently. But it is clear to me that, and this leads to my previous point, I do believe Eric Prince is receptive. two edgy ideas that are outside of the mainstream and if you're able to like get one-on-one with him he could potentially change some of his ideas because having worked in DC before most people there they just lack the intellect and they're very close-minded to and status-oriented
Starting point is 01:31:43 whereas I do believe prints whatever flaws you may have and he has plenty of them I'm not like a soft print stand by any means But he does have a certain degree of curiosity to engage with these ideas that you just don't find among people of like the ruling class these days. They just repeat boilerplate nonsense and talking points. And it's very clear that this guy, he does his homework and is willing to dabble in this kind of stuff. Yeah, didn't he go tour Eastern Europe with Lou Rockwell? Yeah. After you got merit gratification.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yeah. Yeah, Papi Canaan was with him too, I believe. And he told stories that buying a Russian uniform for 20, sort of going with their American dollars and buying up, you know, bust of Len in uniforms. Yeah, it's interesting. He'd identify with Austrian economics. Sometimes at the same time be a champion,
Starting point is 01:32:46 a huge government contractor. I guess that's not surprising. but um the uh the um i i gather he was saying was i think at the time his family was probably a benefactor of various right-wing libertarian organizations in early 90s um that would have been what like 12 13 years into the uh the the might von mizist and stuff i think opened his doors in the early 80s if i get that right yeah uh so they i'm i'm at Probably assuming to this family funding that Hillsdale College, again, which is a conservative, you know, the college. It doesn't set federal funds.
Starting point is 01:33:30 And I think they're kind of along there with Claremont and sort of right wing. I think, you know, the worshippers of Abraham Lincoln, that sort of thing. So he comes to that sort of Americana, if you will, of thought. Although, you know, obviously the – there's probably a lot of, you know, again, he's probably working out working things things out in his mind himself because of course the uh the uh lu rockwell.com
Starting point is 01:33:58 and by means it still so is very a friendly or uh supportive of things that the Confederate thought now very critical of Lincoln and that project so
Starting point is 01:34:10 so you got a couple Paladin Y Y YZ again says Blackwater was immune to all of court martial and inter-core disciplinary action. Blackwater got away with tons of shit. See the nuance. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I mean, but they were not immune to, they were not immune to prosecution under federal law. I mean, they didn't go to war with complete, they didn't go to war with any more of the immunity than, I mean, bringing up court-martialing and inter-core disciplinary action, I mean, really, how much of that was there during GWAT.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I mean, during GWAT, there was, I mean, the tales of the kind of stuff that went on are legendary. And, I mean, no one was getting. They just let the, they just basically let people off the leash to do what they wanted. Well, one thing that the U.S. military would wage warfare on a scale, far beyond on a private contract you could do. You know, they, look, I mean, Blackwater couldn't pull off a direct. or a Hamburg or they couldn't you know from bomb north of Vietnam they didn't have a
Starting point is 01:35:28 Operation Phoenix yeah they didn't nuke Nagasaki and Hiroshima you know it's a yeah you know it's a yeah you want to look at it I suppose you want to admit right those military operations not legitimate because there was a state was doing it and they were there was declared war and all that but um obviously that doesn't absorb people's morality or they're more responsibility for their actions. So, you know. Yeah. Eric says over here, I have hope for Prince. I listen to what he says. Let's understand that there is a circulation of the elite boys. I'm a working class dude from Philly. It's not going to be me by Miles. I don't really care about his priors. I'm not a libertarian. Political wind shift almost daily. We have to have the flexibility to understand. this. And also, I think
Starting point is 01:36:23 a lot of the problem is ideology. People, I think a lot of people shit on libertarians for being pure ideologues, and then they have this pure ideology. Like if there's going to be a Caesar
Starting point is 01:36:39 who comes along, he better be perfect and agree with me 100%. What thinking white male hasn't been a libertarian at some point in the life? Yeah. You know, right. Everyone's kind of flirt. I think any critical thinkers
Starting point is 01:36:52 flirted with it and still harbors some of it because there are some use for analysis in libertarianism. I mean, I Yeah, absolutely. The writings of Mary Rothbard is some of the economic insights, but I don't look upon us
Starting point is 01:37:09 Holy Rent, you know, so. Right. All right, let me play this next clip. For travel schedule, it seems pretty frequent. That's interesting. So since you are everywhere all the time, and most Americans are, including me, sort of only dimly aware of what's happening around the world, name three places we should be paying more attention to now than we are. The Chinese Communist Party has been very active in Mexico.
Starting point is 01:37:41 The fentanyl crisis is very much, you know, last year, fentanyl in America killed like 109,000 people. Yes. It is funded, organized, logistically facilitated by the Chinese Communist Party to move the precursor chemicals that are actually made near Wuhan, China, shipped to either Venezuela or Mexico, fabricated into fentanyl, and basically blended with other common drugs that people are taking. And it doesn't make any sense to do so, because why would a drug dealer want to kill his customers? That's what's happening. And it is an absolute, it's a fuck you from the CCP against the West for the opium wars of the 1840s. And it's... Does that make sense to anyone?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Oh, yeah. I think that people... Go ahead, Tim. I'm sorry. Yeah, I think the Chinese remember the opium wars. There are people with a long memory. Although primarily wasn't that great Britain. Hmm. But who in Great Britain, Tim?
Starting point is 01:38:55 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Sassoon family. Yeah. Here we go. It was Sassoons and Rothschild. Yep. And they were Jewish, if I recall.
Starting point is 01:39:08 They are Jewish. So could this be another ethnic feud that our occupational government is involved in, that we're, once again, we're paying the price for? we're being the we're being the we're being the we are the hammer we are the hammer and the bank of that ethnic feud yes yeah we're also the we're also the punching bank i don't see them suffering it's almost like wearing it's like the tic-tock thing do you think it's people are worried about tick up because of the chinese or because tic-tok is a platform that a certain ethnic who doesn't completely control you know last year there's a fake release of Jonathan Greenblath, ADL saying, we have a TikTok problem.
Starting point is 01:39:51 And this year, there's a law pass to force TikTok to sell. Because it's not because of the, in any way, it's not the China, the content of TikTok is aren't the Chinese, it's Americans doing it. Now, who's, who's debasing and demoralize the American society? Who's done that when Hollywood matters? Yeah, that's their job. TikTok shouldn't do it. It's their job to the base American society.
Starting point is 01:40:18 But the drug problem, again, you can say it's a supply problem, but it's a demand problem. Now, why are so many Americans reduced becoming addicted to drugs? I don't think they're, yes, yes, exactly. And good products being tainted, because people who know they're taking drugs, that why are they compelled to take drugs? Why are so many Americans watching pornography? Or are so many girls' bodies on only fans, pouring themselves out? So it's a moral issue.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Why is American society being demoralized? because it's no longer a Christian society. It's been Judaized. But, you know, it's not the Chinese Central Committee, the Communist Party Central Committee doing it. Nor is it the KGB, like Jerry Besmanoff's saying. It's like, you know, this demoralization thing is in a Russian plot. It's not a Chinese plot, you know.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Those Russian defectors were some of the biggest disinformation agents out there, man. Yeah. Oh, big time. Yeah. Yeah, Yuri Malta, I interviewed Yuri Maltzv. Oh, I almost didn't want to release the episode because I read through his dishonesty in the first five minutes. And then he was, and then I don't know if you know this, Jose, he was running around the Mises Institute in 2021 wearing stickers saying, I took the jab. Yeah. Well, it was, I don't know for Batman.
Starting point is 01:41:44 What the motherfucker Was Norman A communist A Communist Party agent? Who? Was Norman Lear, an agent of China? Or Russia? Or he beat?
Starting point is 01:41:58 No, he was a Jew. He was But he might as well have been. Hey, it's a Jewish plot. You know, and it's not a trope. It's true. And that's, we call it Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:42:12 if you doubt that look at the look at the look at what they've produced the past 60 years since the production code collapsed you know you know and they've had free reign
Starting point is 01:42:25 you know because no one can talk about it anymore no one can say that's a Jew making that movie that's what my you know grandfather has you to say that stuff yeah yeah well what do you think
Starting point is 01:42:39 wouldn't you think phrase Madison Avenue bullshit really means. Yeah. Exactly. What do you think that really means? Yeah. Right. So, you know, that's, so it's not China. Again, this notion, where are the troubles? That's where, where must America engage in the world? What war must it fight? There's always, the presumption there's some foreign war that America has to fight as the country is literally falling apart underneath our feet at home. It's ridiculous. Right. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, um, so Pete Budapest over here says, I have, I have genuine. trauma from W-era conservatism. So sometimes I can be a tad too hard on people. I even suspect to being sympathetic to that disastrous and ruinous project. Palin and Y Y YZ says, so true, Tim. Libertarianism and wanting Bernie Sanders are two truths in most of our closets. Mountain Nationalist comes back and says, China is a threat. I don't want China in South America Just because the views overlaps with many neocons doesn't mean we should just ignore other threats.
Starting point is 01:43:46 The world is more complicated than that. He's right. I mean, just because the neocons. Yeah. But where to- Well, yeah, I addressed that earlier when he was talking about Chinese involvement in uranium and gold and Russian involvement in uranium and gold. I get it.
Starting point is 01:44:01 And I mentioned that earlier in the episode. I also mentioned that I see the point, but it's also very sticky wicket because that's how they get you. well we need to do this to protect our interests and then it suddenly becomes gay story hour is our real motivation so it's like okay well again i've i i conceded you can roll back the tape i did concede that point earlier but it's you just got to be very mindful you and i'll watch it like a snake in your front yard well the first opium opium opioids were sold to as british interests at the time but it wasn't british people didn't well everything sold to us as our interest at the time again that goes that goes back to points i've made earlier in the street like it's that's
Starting point is 01:44:46 how they get you they tell you these things and then it be they it's a shell game they tell you here's the here's the issue and then they move everything around and then you find out that that's not the issue at all but again now we're getting into you know a problem of scale and that's why he wants to keep things small i suspect because it's much easier to monitor what 10 000 guys are doing as opposed to 100,000 guys. So again, like I said, to respond to that super chat, roll back the tape. My honesty with my consistency. I mentioned that exact point 25 minutes ago.
Starting point is 01:45:24 So yes, I agree that we can't just stand up and walk away. I agree that the world is more complicated than that. I said it 25 minutes ago. But it's you just got to be very, very careful because that's how we got into this mess in the first place. Well, real politics. America, sort of America first foreign policy, generally American,
Starting point is 01:45:44 I think you could make the claim that the Chinese, hey, watch yourself in our hemisphere. Africa, Africa is stretching it. That could be say, hey, you know, let's compete.
Starting point is 01:45:55 That's who can get the best deal. And so offer Africans a better deal than the Chinese. Let's try that strategy, as opposed to, you know, the economic hitman model that the West has been doing for, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:05 since, since, since, you know, since 1946, whatever. But, you know, you can say that. Matt, you can say Monroe Doctrine type stuff. That's fine. But it's hard to lecture Monroe Docting stuff when we're over there in Taiwan. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Yeah, exactly. That's Cold War stuff. China and Taiwan will work it out. They don't need America. And if that's the case, we shouldn't have our semiconductors being produced in Taiwan if it's such a vulnerable spot. Who made that decision? Who built all the factories in China? Who paid for all that?
Starting point is 01:46:37 And that's since the 19th century. I would also add to just to like emphasize how like just retarded the U.S. foreign policy elites are. If you're talking about prosecuting a cold war against China, why in the hell are you allowing like the mass legal migration of Chinese nationals to the U.S., which is like building like a massive fifth column? Like, you see, like, Canada, Australia, and, like, the U.S. Pacific is just teeming with these CCP sleeper cells. It's just like the people here are running this foreign policy are stupid. That's why I've been saying that to handle the China question, it should be, like, an actual America first foreign policy of decoupling trade with China and restricting immigration. Going back to the Chinese Exclusion Act, this is not like some radical,
Starting point is 01:47:38 unprecedented concept in American history. No, and... Right. Nick's only stated. You're afraid of, if you do that, the Chinese is going to call you racist? You care. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:49 No, but no, try, like, pitching that idea to, like, some anti-China pop or neo-cond, they'll be like, oh, my God, this is, like, unbathomable or follow-upon. It's like, this is actually a pretty common-sense thing.
Starting point is 01:48:03 you look at any third world country that has beef with another like bordering country or some country in the perimeter, the natural thing they're going to do is it's going to restrict immigration. Yeah, of course, yeah. But instead, our borders are wide open. You have national security claims, concerns, national security claims,
Starting point is 01:48:25 concern claims, seriously. It's not just any sense. Yeah, I mean, any sense. Yeah. Yeah, I am. Can I just, hold on, let me get here. Oogabuga over on Rumble is like viewing Eric as naive can be seen as too generous. As some could say, him bringing up a lot of stuff now as a way to improve image for book deals and paid talking show circuits. Do any of you think that Eric Prince needs money?
Starting point is 01:48:59 No. No. No. is just libertarian horseshit, okay? All right. I'm sorry, go on, please. Yeah, I actually noticed like to piggyback off that
Starting point is 01:49:12 a lot of libertarians I've noticed they sometimes sound like low- IQ Marxists when it comes to their economic reductionism on how they analyze power politics. It's actually something curious I've noticed
Starting point is 01:49:28 over time. Yeah. All right, let me play this very this last um this last clip and it's very short so yeah you wonder you know if we've reached a point where that it's impossible for the country to act in its own interest just because of the changes due to immigration i i read a lot of history and i know that things have been a lot worse in certain societies and um corrective events can be shocking and traumatic to people but it's still possible what do you mean by that He meant people cleaned up Weimar, Germany is exactly.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Already like it's 1933? Yep, I think that's exactly what he meant. Maybe not exactly the way, you know, we might mean it, but I think we're very sympathetic. He may not be on the same paragraph as we are, but he's on the same page. Does that make sense to you, fellas? Yeah. Wolf Larson over on Odyssey S. So are we going to be the 110th,
Starting point is 01:50:37 girlfriend or what? Eric says, Eric says at you, Tim, to the tune of over there, over there. You know the song. Then he said, he also said the opium interest was big. It wasn't just the Brits. But yeah, it was, but the Brits were, I mean, it was their, it was their military with, I think their military was the one who led combined forces.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Yeah. If I'm not, if I'm not mistaken. You're correct. They embalmed, you know, Beijing and all that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so. You know, Yale and the, yeah, the American elite got involved in the 19th century, yeah, with their ships and all that got involved in.
Starting point is 01:51:25 And that's created the backbone for the American elite, particularly the Yale, the skull and bones and that, you know, the Russell Trust and all that. Well, that's all I got, guys. thank you if anybody wants to do closing closing statements or just make a comment or why you're doing that plug anything you want so Charles why don't you go first well yeah I just I just want to wrap up
Starting point is 01:51:53 tie everything up as neatly as I can again I'm like Prince I stand by my assessment of him I'm not 100% sure that he's fighting the battle that we need him to fight but he's certainly better than any other option I've seen in a very long time. And I emphasize my statement. That's not me backpedaling or being wishy-washy. I'm just admitting that I don't know if this is a stratagem on his part to not tip his hand too much, or maybe he just doesn't quite see it the way I think he should. Could be either. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:26 But that's the impression that I get. So maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But I also stand by my assessment. I think even whether he does or he doesn't, he'll be an excellent sword arm for somebody else. If he himself couldn't be quote unquote it, then I think he would make an excellent sword arm for the guy that is. I don't think there would be a better sword arm, in fact, for the guy that is. I also found this live stream to be, his interview, excuse me, to be very much a white pill in the long term. I think he says we didn't cover some of it, but I do think he says quite a bit that is very encouraging, that there is a lot more hope than we perhaps perceive. yes, there's a lot to be upset about, but there is a lot of encouraging news out there
Starting point is 01:53:13 if one takes the moment to look. As far as plugging anything, I'll keep it brief. If you'd like to follow me on Twitter, I am at Whiskey and Ashes. You're welcome to follow me there. Sometimes I post in huge bursts. Some other times I go radio silent for a while, due to the line of work. I'm in, as far as there, I have two books on Amazon if you're interested, whiskey and ashes and inebriots guide, an amoeuvriots of vowels, maxims and observations. And I also have the holistic guide to suicide. If you wrestle with depression, suicide, ideation, you've suffered some severe trauma. You're trying to get your life on track. I humbly, humbly suggest you check out the holistic guide to suicide. It is not, I'm going to speak specifically to the
Starting point is 01:53:55 fellow that commented from Philadelphia working class guy. Buddy, I am you. So I am not some rich kid. I don't come from money. I know what it's like to have real problems. If you have them, I humbly ask you to buy it and to read it. And I hope that it will help you tremendously because it's all the stuff I learned the hard way, getting out of some extremely bad situations. All right, Jose. I enjoyed that interview. And I still thought that it had some use. I'm not a Eric Prince fan, but I do think some of his viewpoints are refreshing, and I still stand by the opinion that this type of guy would just not occupy positions of great influence
Starting point is 01:54:42 in the present iteration of our ruling class, which is occupied by degenerate stunts and deceivers. So now, if you want to keep up with my work, you can follow me on Twitter at Jose Al-Nino, and then I have my own substack, Jose Nino, unfiltered, which you can find at JOSBCF.substack.com. My podcast, El Niño Speaks, is also on there, but if you want to subscribe to it, elsewhere, it's on iTunes and Spotify.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Tim. Well, thanks for having me on. It was a blast. Good talk, I think. The interview I enjoyed a lot with Tucker Carlson and Eric Brent. I think there was a lot there to think about. I do think his comments that, you know, that a correction is needed is telling, meaning he's a member of late, and he seems to realize something is seriously wrong.
Starting point is 01:55:41 And so that's, I guess you could say, someone of a white pill, because you have someone of that influence, maybe there are others, you know. So, you know, and again, when that happens, the whoever, if there is a correction that's made and someone who comes in and is able to sort of clear out all the degenerates, and bad guys, he's not going to have a pure background. He's not going to be born in a stable. Go check out Tim's show our interesting times. I clipped about three minutes of his episode that he dropped with Joe Atwell yesterday.
Starting point is 01:56:25 I think Tim does a great job of explaining and even going further than I have of the concept of the kosher sandwich. He takes it internationally and shows you how the kosher sandwich works. I shared that on, I actually clipped it and shared it on Twitter, Tim. Oh, that's fine. That's what's there. It's a great job.
Starting point is 01:56:47 All right. Thomas and my review of taxi driver commenting on it from a cultural standpoint, especially from a 1976 New York City cultural standpoint, is available on Gumroad, free man me on the wall. dot com forward slash taxi driver and you can find the links to it until next week i want to thank everybody who's super chatted i want to thank everybody who argued i get it believe me i'm uh i'm um yeah i'm i'm just as skeptical as everyone else but um you know we need to start examining people who are
Starting point is 01:57:24 potential elites and who could lead you know who could lead us out of this and they're not going to come from the outside they're going to be insiders So just be prepared for that. And thank you. Thanks, everyone. Thank you, Pete.

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