The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1060: The Foreign Policy of Adolf Hitler - Part 4 - The Finale - w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:16 back to the Peking Yono show. Hey, Thomas. How are you doing? I'm doing well. I realize I kind of look like a hobo. I'm getting over a really severe flare-up, so I'm not 100%. So that's what's going on. I didn't, I didn't just sleep in my clothes last night and then like drag myself on my computer, even if it looks that way. So forgive me for that. Well, yeah, if we, since this is a wrap-up show, if it needs to be a little bit shorter, that's fine. I think I'll be okay. Yeah, why don't, Okay. How do you want to finish up this? I wanted to do a retrospective on Hitler's character a bit because the main biographies of Hitler that are accepted by court historians
Starting point is 00:02:05 are Ian Kershaw, Alan Bullock, Yakom Fest, and John Toland. Although Tolan increasingly, I mean, he's been dead for many years, but increasingly he's no longer considered part of the canon because he you know people who want to finesse their ideological prejudice would say like oh he humanizes Hitler or he minimizes the severity of
Starting point is 00:02:31 you know purported you know fascist evil and things but if you're going to deal with Hitler in any meaningful capacity you kind of have to you kind of have to
Starting point is 00:02:46 you have to rebut those allegations and those kinds of speeches claims but if you're dealing with any tyrant or any
Starting point is 00:03:01 warlord or any or any great leader you've got to you've got to both identify his analogs and you've also got to identify what sort of psychological processes, particularly symbolic
Starting point is 00:03:17 psychological processes animated him in his vision. Okay. And this is controversial, even for people supposedly on the right, like I read this, I've been reading a lot of Hitler biographies lately, only to my manuscripts. I'm writing too manuscripts. I'm working on Steel Storm, but I'm writing this Nuremberg book,
Starting point is 00:03:41 and I realize that character evidence of the equivalent isn't just positive of anything. It's not even formally admissible, but so much of the Nuremberg indictment kind of orbited around what supposedly was in the mind of the furor as like the seminal command authority. It's something that's got to be addressed.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So, you know, it's just kind of refreshing my recollection, you know, kind of on what the primary claims are. And, um, Russell Stolfe's book, which is a splendid rebuttal that I was reading this really good review by this guy who, I think, periodically writes for countercurrents.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And I got like, hey, we threw it. And then he starts shrieking about how awful it is that Stolfei claimed that Muhammad was an analog to Hitler. I mean, apparently because this guy has got some like, kosherized prejudice against Muslims or something. That's a completely fucking idiotic. They're like, people still think that way.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Or that they'd essentially just kind of apply those same conceptual bodies. biases, just, you know, kind of with reverse colors. Their historical analysis. And plus, like, Muhammad was a great man. You know, like they can't, he wasn't, he wasn't what his believers think that he was. And it's not some slamming Muslims either.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You know, they worship the same God I do, however incomplete their interpretation is. But saying, like, Muhammad wasn't one of the greatest men of the way of it. It was like saying Julius Caesar was a second raider. It's just idiotic. But, moving on from the kind of tangential complaint. I believe, and even if I didn't, what historians claim, which makes sense, even if they weren't dealing with a figure as kind of monumental and controversial as Hitler, you know, like the man Hitler became, was kind of, that kind of character trajectory was set when he was about 18 years of.
Starting point is 00:05:48 old, which is generally the case, especially for males, I think, like when I kind of develop their sort of visionary ambitions. But, you know, that was right when Hitler's mother died. And that's also when he, you know, suffered his first major disappointment when he applied to the Vienna School of Fine Arts in which Hitler was not rejected for being, quote, terrible artist. He was told that he was a great architect, but that, you know, he obviously that for his skill set lay so that, you know, he was accepted into the architecture program and told that, you know, fine arts were not really his forte. And, um, a, uh, not having attended a real school and not having the credentials to pursue that alternate track, um, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:40 we that basically cut off that career trajectory um unless he was able to find somebody to kind of act as a patron in a strange city that wasn't very likely but the um one of the things that's claimed about hitler is that oh well you know Hitler had this un uh had this unhealthy relationship with his mother and then i mean this kind of things like steeped and like fruidian nonsense obviously these kinds of claims, but that also that Dr. Block, who was an oncologist who treated Hitler's mom, that, oh, Hitler
Starting point is 00:07:16 obviously came to hate Jews because Block was a Jew and just blamed him for the death of his mother. That's not at all true, and Hitler actually thought really highly a Dr. Block. In a rebuttal to that kind of off-repeated claim, Block said to Collier's magazine during the war,
Starting point is 00:07:36 he said, I'm probably like the most privileged a Jew like you'll find in Germany or Austria today. I don't believe that's an accident. And when Hitler told me that he owed me a great debt of honor for caring for his mother, apparently he was sincere. Okay? That's straight from the horse's mouth.
Starting point is 00:07:54 But I do believe Hitler's upbringing was very strange. You know, Hitler's father, Alois, he kind of exemplified what was wrong with the Hathbury Empire. and something Tolan says, which I think is not off base, is that, you know, Hitler, Alois was a tyrant. He was just kind of a mean guy. He beat his family, especially Hitler's older brother, Alois Jr. Alois Jr. was Hitler's half-brother, and his father terrorized them. And, you know, Alois ran away from home at 14 and never came home, which speaks for itself. but um you know uh after aloas ran away Hitler was kind of the brunt of his of his dad's you know kind of bullying
Starting point is 00:08:41 and um his dad was uh Hitler wasn't poor despite what some people claim either like the family was solidly middle class Hitler's father was uh he joined the border guards or the custom service with the frontier guards like basically like like uh think like kind of Homeland Security meets um Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Starting point is 00:09:06 so he was basically a cop You know um He joined this He joined up at 18 Retired at 58 You know so he had this like solid pension And he was you know He had a lot of clout
Starting point is 00:09:19 Like within that institution Um And um You know Like Hitler viewed him as this kind of like is this kind of like crude ignoramus who had sort of like a reverence for authority for its own sake you know
Starting point is 00:09:35 in those days we'll get into this it was actually illegal to sing the German national anthem it was illegal to display images of Bismarck and other like patriotic iconography you know the um we talk about a nationalities problem in in the Soviet Union like the Habsburg Empire had the worst nationalities problem
Starting point is 00:09:56 like ever seen. Okay. So, um, it was just kind of like authoritarian bureaucracy that was aiming at suppressing like everybody's, um, you know, kind of nationalist or self-consciously, like, ethnic feeling. You know, so in Hitler's mind, from very early on, Hitler was self-consciously German, which makes a lot of sense, you know, this kid who was, who lived on the frontier of the Habsburg Empire, you know, basically, um, you know, as a might as a... minority around a bunch of other minorities. But it's, um, I don't think it's off base to suggest that
Starting point is 00:10:33 one of the reasons Hitler came to hate the Hasbrod regime, like not the emperor himself, like he, or anything like that, but there's like, you know, the regime that propped it up. He identified that with his dad. He really was just like a bully. You know, and, um, Hitler's dad died, you know, when Hitler was 13 years old. He just had like a mansup heart attack. You know, on the one hand, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:55 on one hand that kind of freed the family from his from his brutish tyranny but you know um he the family got a pretty they didn't fall into punery or anything because they had like a decent pension but um Hitler's older brother had run away years before Hitler's uh four younger siblings of Hitler's had died you know um Hitler's mom even before she got cancer was kind of unwell you know, Hitler was like the man of the house at 13 years old. You know, it's not, that it was not an easy
Starting point is 00:11:31 thing, you know, um, so this idea, too, that Hitler was just, like, lay about, like, idiot or something who, you know, just, you know, had an act to grind with his daddy and wasn't doing anything and
Starting point is 00:11:46 in his, in this kind of care for adolescents as regards, you know, real responsibility. Like, that's, that's nonsense too. But, uh, What's fascinating to me is that some of these formative things, like not just fascinations, but conceptual but by like conceptual fixations
Starting point is 00:12:10 like emerged like around this time. Like before, after Al Lewis Sr. had retired, like he tried, he bought this like gentleman's farm. You know, he was trying to live this like kind of country squire life or something. And like the farm failed because, you know, Al Lewis didn't know what he was doing. And he actually was, Alas actually was kind of drunkenly about, you know, like when he wasn't, you know, doing his border guard, you know, policeman thing. But the, um, after, uh, after that, the family moved, um, to, uh, this apartment house that was right across from this Benedictine monastery.
Starting point is 00:12:53 and um the school year of 1897 1898 um Hitler uh the path he walked a school uh um
Starting point is 00:13:07 went um it went through this gate um abutting the Benedictine premises um specifically the monastery and um
Starting point is 00:13:21 there's a stone arch in the center of it and like very prominently it was carved in the monastery's coat of arms like a swastika which I don't think that's accidental that you know that that and that's why I raised the people
Starting point is 00:13:34 who say like no Hitler was signaling to these people in the tool society that you know he he was a some of a culted pagan like no no no that's not the case and um swatsas were ubiquitous and in um
Starting point is 00:13:50 in medieval and Gothic um freezes and things. And the kind of gothic, the kind of mini Gothic revival, you know, that was emergent, you know, really for a few decades, you know, from about like the 1870s or 80s.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'm not at all like an architectural historian or anything. But, you know, approximately around the time when, you know, like Hitler was coming up, that that kind of thing was still prominent, particularly in some of the kind of suburbs and excerpts of central Europe. from these, you know, from these, um, baroque cities, of course, like Vienna. But, um, it's, um,
Starting point is 00:14:31 and interestingly, um, Helene Hofschttangle, who was Putsi Hofstangle's wife. I mean, obviously, um, and Hofstangle, Hofstangle was kind of a buffoon, and he became very much, uh, on the Alts with Hitler. And even, even when he was,
Starting point is 00:14:49 even when he was in the good graces of the kind of core of the of the National Socialist Party he never really got any respect but his wife kind of before Magda Gerbils became Hitler's like
Starting point is 00:15:11 confidant and arguably kind of like de facto first lady the third Reich like Helene Hofschnagel kind of filled that role and Hitler told her that that during this time he considered becoming a priest you know because he's like
Starting point is 00:15:26 this is like a higher calling for you know that's not it's not sullied by you know these kinds of worldly things that you know I don't want any part of and you can you know you can surround yourself with art you know but do it in a way that you know
Starting point is 00:15:41 people can index with you know as in their worship and things like it's very interesting because that's the only kind of despite a lot of fake quotes and a lot of speculation, like Hitler never said bad things about patholicism. Like he just didn't. But you never said anything particularly praising of it either.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Let me ask a question. During the Strasser debates, does he refer to himself as an atheist? No. Okay. No, and that's why most notably in the December 11th speech, he mentions Providence or God, over half a dozen times.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I mean, it's a constant, it's a constant motif, you know, but that's, well, that's, that's a, that's a discussion for another time,
Starting point is 00:16:40 because there's a lot there, but no, he, that's absolutely asinine. What people do is they take, they take quotes from, like, they take, either, like, totally confabulated quotes from girls or something, thing they're just like made up or they take actual quotes and some buffoon like Borman like you know mouthing off on when she hates the Catholics and saying like
Starting point is 00:17:00 see like you know the Nazis were seeking worshiping Jews wanted to burn all the churches you know like Bormant said so when he was like three sheets to the wind and talking shit you know like um but the um you know it uh the um there was something uh you know even in um even in a place kind of like his culture it is like haps for Austria. Yeah, I don't mean like culture necessarily in common pollen terms, though it was that too. But you know, there was this kind of like deep reverence for the arts and things. You know, like just saying, um, when Hitler was asked, other than this kind of brief dalliance with the,
Starting point is 00:17:48 with the idea of becoming a priest, you know, Hitler, when he was, when he was asked what he was going to be, like what his career was going to be, he'd always say, like, I'm going to be a great artist. And the adults would be like, well, you know, you have to have a proper profession, you know, like it, uh, you know, So it's not as if these these were like flights of fancy that you know, were encouraged by some like doting mother who's just out of it.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You know, like not even remotely, but it's the it was around it was around this time too Hitler realized he could draw. He from that time you know, he's about up in our system like
Starting point is 00:18:30 fifth or sixth grade age, you know, like 11 or 12 years old. he'd start surreptitiously sketching. One of his school chums named Weinberger, the Vineberger.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He relayed that he watched over several days as Hitler, like, you know, in class when they were listening to some lesson or another, Hitler, he recreated from memory the castle at Schaumburg and just like sketched it out. you know, any early on in life, like other kids looked at him as a leader.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You know, what's fascinating to me, too, was that his favorite stuff to read was stories by James Fenimore Cooper. And kind of his German imitator or kind of counterpart was Carl May, who also wrote Western stories. but uh you know the kind of the the cowboys and indians you know uh kind of genre like came from james fenimore cooper you know like hiltler's a kid actually taught himself to throw a lasso which i think is hilarious but um he'd uh his uh like those who remembered him um you know this was multiple people said that hill always wanted to play cowboys and indians you know know um and uh you know he talked about america as this kind of like wild a place but also this kind of like marvelous place almost like the land of odds of like you know infinite power infinite
Starting point is 00:20:16 wealth but also like wild people and you know like warriors and like you know um it's i find that i find that fascinating you know it's like this like little austrian kid like that's what he's that's what he's getting into but um according to hitler he said and then his tracks by what is Sister Paula told him Toland as well as other
Starting point is 00:20:44 as well as other witness testimony which I have no reason to think is incredible Hitler he became fixated on these two historical magazines that were dedicated to the Franco-Prussian War
Starting point is 00:21:02 which obviously was like loomed hugely in the minds of of Germans. You know, I mean, that was, uh, I mean, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was their great victory, you know, like their, um, and, um, the kind of, uh, the kind of, the kind of finest hour of,
Starting point is 00:21:18 of Prussian arms. But it's also, you know, Europe in the 19th century, like, didn't go to war, uh, really. You know, I mean, there was the Franco, the Prussian war. You know, but after Waterloo, like, there wasn't, there wasn't, there wasn't any, um, there weren't like major engagements, you know, that, that, that, that involved, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:36 have a dozen countries and millions of men. You know, that's why so many European mercenaries ended up fighting the war between the states, because that's where the action was. You know, it, um, and Hitler, uh, he became,
Starting point is 00:21:56 he stated by in his own, um, testimony that, uh, the Boer War was, uh, you know, what really imbued him with like self-conscious patriotism as well as uh you know as well as an understanding that like you weren't german you know um which is fascinating and um that like we talked about in a world war one series the degree to which the germans felt a deeply a deep affinity for the boers like they can't be like overstated
Starting point is 00:22:30 you know um it uh it was also his um He was about this age too when his younger brother Edmund died of measles and that was the fourth death of one of the Hitler children Um
Starting point is 00:22:50 So Hitler was the only remaining son Okay Alois was You know, he was Hitler's half-brother But he was like long gone anyway His family didn't even know He was dead alive You know
Starting point is 00:23:03 Um The This is when this is when Hillary was kind of forced to grow up in my opinion. And then shortly thereafter, you know, Alouis Sr. died. But before he did, just a couple of years previously, Hitler reached the age where he's eligible to attend either at gymnasia,
Starting point is 00:23:33 more a real school. And his practical-minded father was, you know, thought of gymnasium was a waste of time you know and for those who don't know like in those days I've noted the European systems like now but in those days you know gymnasium would prepare people for you know classical education and what was then the university curriculum
Starting point is 00:23:53 you know a real school was um it was like you know a technical and scientific academy okay um and the uh the nearest real school was located in Lins so Hitler set off for Lins
Starting point is 00:24:15 when he was like a little kid he'd pack a rucksack on his back he'd quite literally walk for three hours and sometimes he'd stay over night or through the weekend
Starting point is 00:24:36 you know but that kind of degree of autonomy and kind of worldliness and like understanding of like mortal things that's not think of all the kids in the West these days you know I mean I um you know and uh
Starting point is 00:25:00 what the testimony to Toland is as well as other people was Hitler this is basically when Hitler like abandoned like all interest in school work like viewing it essentially as bullshit you know and um Hitler said
Starting point is 00:25:17 quote I thought that once my father saw a little progress I was making at the real school he would let me devote myself to my dream whether he liked it or not um however Hitler did perform alone to pass Joseph Kepler was one of Hitler's friends who um provided testimony to Tol and said Hitler
Starting point is 00:25:41 and I find this significant because other intimate to Hitler like both from his childhood his life as a young man as well as his later adulthood. Kaplanner said quote he had guts. He wasn't the hothead but he really was more amenable than a good many
Starting point is 00:25:59 he exhibited two extremes of character which are not often seen in unison. He was a quiet fanatic. Hitler wasn't like this carpet chewing maniac. He wasn't this guy who was like yelling all the time he wasn't this guy who came off like a tweaker. You know, there was like this quiet, quiet intensity.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Like, dude almost never raised his voice. He almost never lost his temper. But he was obviously a fanatic. You know, like, that's the key to, that's the key to Hitler. You know, people don't understand that. Don't really understand, like, how we indexed with people the way you did.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And they don't really, they don't really understand his, like, kind of like, what appealed with him. the people about him in personal terms as well as in kind of, you know, idealized terms. But, you know, Kepler also made the point, he said, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:52 he said the Boer War, he said it kind of, he said it like invigorated us, you know, not just the kids of the adults, you know, the sense of historical mission and like a desire for like our own state, you know, German state. You know, he said Bismarck
Starting point is 00:27:09 was our hero. You know, he's Like, you know, we'd sing Bismarck songs, you know, when, when authority figures were out of earshot. He was like, we'd, uh, he's like, we'd secretly, like, you know, in private, like, salute each other and things, you know, with Heil. You know, like, it's, like, a lot of this, well, a lot of stuff that became kind of the, the key lore of the Nazi party. Like, literally developed when, like, hit with a little kid on the frontier with other Habsburg Germans. And kind of the world situation was changing in critical ways. You know, this idea that, like, Hitler came up with this, you know, one day in 1922 because it seemed like a way to kind of sway public opinion, like, is ridiculous. You know, they agree to which Hitler was a product of that time and epoch, particularly the, you know, lins in the turn of the century.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I mean, don't get me wrong. there was by no means like a politician or a conventional political actor but nothing that he considered to be the intractable kind of core
Starting point is 00:28:23 of the NSDAP and its ambitions none of that was strange none of that was you know issues of first impression or anything like that apparently his first kind of real page of the opera came from
Starting point is 00:28:40 Longren, the Wagner Opera. He played at the Linz Opera House and the If those that don't know, in Longren, a key
Starting point is 00:28:58 episode is King Henry to assembles the the German knights who were trying to expel like the Magyars. Okay, which, I mean, interestingly, you know, I mean, obviously that would resonate with the Habsburg, um, Austrian kid. But, uh, there's this, uh, there's this, like, poetic refrain when, uh, the king's addressing the men that Tranjew says, quote, let the Reich semian now appear.
Starting point is 00:29:32 were well prepared to see him near from his eastern desert plain he'll never dare to stir again the german sword for german land thus the rike in vigor thus will the rike in vigor stand if you go by his own testimony as well as he go by kind of the what can be verified as populating the kind of cultural landscape at the time you know these things that um these got the key aspects um of felt like a way romanticism as well as kind of his the kind of cultural pastiche that, you know, he, he wanted a national social system to become a kind of vehicle of. This stuff developed when he was a kid. And I think people who commit themselves to things of that nature, I mean, great and small.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I mean, obviously, I'm not talking about regular people like myself, not just, you know, kind of great men of history. Like, the stuff you really get into is the stuff like that you get into before, like, pre-adolescence. like the stuff you're into is like a teenager or a young man comes and goes it tends to be kind of informed by passion and in the moment sort of impulses but like the stuff you're going to do when you're a kid when you're like no longer an infant
Starting point is 00:30:42 but you're not properly like an adolescent yet the stuff you get into when you're like 10, 11, 12 years old if you can't fully understand it yet in terms of its um its core characteristics that's kind of like what stays with you as a mature man you know, like, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's it's so much different for women, but like women have to grow up fast too. You know, but it's, I firmly believe this. I think it's I think it should be written about more. But the, you know, the real kind of
Starting point is 00:31:24 you know, that more than the than the Vienna, Hitler, I think, I think informs the the structure of the man's like Hitler the man's like Kubazek when people and I think Kubazek is something of the unreliable
Starting point is 00:31:47 you know an unreliable narrator of myth and lore but I think his testimony about Hitler basically tracks in my opinion with what other people say and it's um you know when um Hitler um
Starting point is 00:32:04 Hiller being told, Hillary was confident based on his, you know, what he'd submitted to other people who were in a position to judge such things. You know, kind of people in like administrative and gatekeeper roles, okay? When he, he was confident that his portfolio
Starting point is 00:32:22 would be accepted, you know, to the School of Fine Arts. Like when it wasn't and when the rector said, oh no, but don't be discouraged, you know, your your ability obviously lies in the field of architecture, young man. You know, it wasn't just that it wasn't just that Hitler didn't want to jump in a bunch of hoops
Starting point is 00:32:38 and probably his financial situation wouldn't wouldn't allow that but I mean it was that his whole kind of supervision itself and what he wanted out of life and you know the artists artist feel of themselves is wanting to participate in something like
Starting point is 00:32:54 greater than the cell. It was very spiritual you know that this was crushing in a way it wouldn't be just you know if Hitler didn't land his first job that he coveted or something you know um and uh immediately after
Starting point is 00:33:10 you know the following month um that's when Hitler received a news from the postmaster that his mother was dying you know so he um he rushed back um to Lin's
Starting point is 00:33:25 you know he could he saw out Dr. Block again um who when Hitler's mom first fell ill you know was a the doctor Hitler retained because he was you know he had a reputation from being you know the best in his field the drastic treatments that uh were available then involved um involved uh treating the patient with large doses like dangerous large doses of idioform um what's uh i uh it's basically a kind of crude forming chemotherapy, you know, something with the surgery, and somebody where metastasis is already present.
Starting point is 00:34:15 They'd be wrapped, the open wound would be wrapped in claws, gauzes dipped in idiiform. And an idiiform, it would, one of the side effects is that the patient wouldn't be able to swallow you know it was uh it was it's it sounds like a kind of torture you know um you know and block admonished Hitler that
Starting point is 00:34:45 you know this this is a very dangerous procedure and I there's not any reason to believe that she'll recover but this is all we can do and um you know uh block explained later
Starting point is 00:35:00 in his interviews you know he said that you know the procedure was the idiom form itself as a as a nauseating odor like chemical odor. It would burn its way into the tissues, you know, to kill the tumors ideally. But it was it basically would torture the patient, okay? Block said that Hitler's mom was it typically stoic Germanly. he said that
Starting point is 00:35:33 quote unflinchingly and uncomplainingly she bore her burden but it seemed to torture her son and anguish grimace would come over him when he saw pain contract her face speaking of him speaking of Hitler when when she died
Starting point is 00:35:56 you know Block expressed his condolences to Hitler um you know and Hitler thanked Block for everything he'd done. He assured him that he'd been compensated for the remainder of who was owed, and he was. The doctor said he saw that Hitler was his Hitler's sketchpad. Hitler had drawn a final sketch of his mom, like, you know, as she died.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And Block said that, you know, he said, he said, I've seen many deathbed scenes. I never saw anyone so prostrate with grief, he said off Hitler. Now, you know, before people, I mean, Hitler was with the, teenager at this point and before people say like oh you know this represents some sort of
Starting point is 00:36:46 an unapproachian appropriate attachment to his mom or something like Hitler's mom was already had you know he had a dead father who'd been a you know a mean bully who was kind of loathed by everybody he had four dead siblings in the grave he had a big brother who like you know ran away
Starting point is 00:37:08 and never looked back he had a little sister that he had to take care of. I mean, I... Plus, like, leaving your mom sucks. I speak from experience. You know, I mean, like, it's... Same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You know, especially... And it's one thing if... It's one thing if you're... You know, if you're a married man and you got, you know, like, a family and, like, you know, people around you. It's like, you know, at the end of the day, like, you know, if you're a single man, it's like your mom and your dad care of it. about you and like that's about it you know I mean that's not that's that's that's not
Starting point is 00:37:43 he's playing something or something but it's you know it's hard if you're a young person and your mom dies you know I mean it though I mean it's hard anyway but you know the um and like I said Block he was emphatic um you know he said Hiller he's like obviously you know like I was enjoying certain privileges and immunities I would not have if I was not doc you know who I will who I am under the right government this idea that Hitler was seeking revenge against a block or something
Starting point is 00:38:15 and this, you know, took on this like anti-Jewish posture and that's fucking ridiculous. But it's, um, the reason I emphasize this is because it's like I said, it's not, um, there's not really any way to understand Hitler
Starting point is 00:38:31 without, you know, appealing to kind of symbolic psychological phenomenon. I mean, that's true for like any, you know, Alexandria the Great, very probably murdered his father. I know that there's, there's controversies and people have many, I mean, there's many kind of competing theories, but I, you know, one part because he felt his mother was being disrespected by the, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:57 his father's kind of new concubine, and became the favored wife, and also that, you know, who wasn't Macedonian. but you know and the era parent would become you know the child that he sired with her
Starting point is 00:39:17 but it's you know you're not going to find you you're not really going to find you kind of squeaky clean I don't know if that's even the right way to characterize it you know early life in a
Starting point is 00:39:33 in any truly great man's biography and especially he's a Hitler you know like Stofi is always driving home in his kind of rebuttal biography
Starting point is 00:39:50 of the furor Hitler wasn't the politician pretty much in every opportunity Hitler avoided politics or said this is a waste of our time or he did monish people you know like he did Von Poppin and the kind of legacy um
Starting point is 00:40:05 the members of the legacy regime you know, like you don't understand what we're doing here. Like, you know, we, this is a historical mission. We're thinking in terms of millennia. You know, we're not, we're not trying to, we're not trying to come to terms with the social Democrats with the budget. You know, we're not, we're not playing this, we're not engaged in this charade of parliamentarism. You know, um, where, uh, we're engaged in a world historical enterprise. probably sight unseen since Genghis Khan
Starting point is 00:40:38 you know and I've emphasized before in my writing as well as in our discussions the degree to which Hitler and particularly Himmler emphasized Yasa as well as other aspects of the Mongol culture
Starting point is 00:41:01 but you know Yasa was the oral legal tradition knowledge of which was restricted to a dedicated cast but the national socialist interest in
Starting point is 00:41:18 this kind of thing, particularly in this subject was nuanced, but the understanding that we've got this kind of pastiche of peoples that constitute you know, our our civilizational organism that were
Starting point is 00:41:34 scattered to the wind by the 30 years of war. You know, now we're trying to create a kind of cohesion therein and rebuild and bring up our racial stock or cultural stock if you, what do you prefer?
Starting point is 00:41:51 That's become weekend and is definitely inferior in critical ways vis-a-vis our adversaries. And we've got to you know, we've got to create a kind of new European man.
Starting point is 00:42:06 You know, these are things that the Mongols are charged with two in their own way. I mean, the Mongols, they, you know, the Turks, when they were, you know, a step people, they, you know, they, they, they were like a pastiche of ethnicities, you know, that they'd taken on as Janusers or slaves, and then were like manumitted and assimilated. I mean, it wasn't, we're not talking about that degree of, of, of, um, alienage, you know, between German people, but, um, Hitler was correct. And what he described is, you know, the kind of shattering catalyst of the 30 years war and, you know, later modernity.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And the Germans as a people and thus Europeans as a people. You know. So that's, that's key. And I mean, I, and of course, too, the thing to keep, anybody who um
Starting point is 00:43:14 anybody who views himself as possessing a mandate a providential mandate a world historical um right if you will anyone who finds themselves in circumstances where they are
Starting point is 00:43:38 the agent of history or of providence or of divine will, you know, whether you're talking about Cromwell or Muhammad or or Philadelphia, Napoleon, or Genghis Khan, you're going to be forced to set aside conventional moral considerations. Because at a certain scale, and that just doesn't apply anymore. You know, and at certain, um, the ex-examian. the exigencies presented
Starting point is 00:44:16 do not allow for individualated moral judgments. This is reality. You know, and people want to pretend like that's an alien phenomenon to America or something, it's absolutely not. That's what every, during the Cold War, that's what every man who took
Starting point is 00:44:40 the oath of office had to be prepared to kill tens of millions of a Soviets. I mean, like that's, you know, within minutes potentially you know so um
Starting point is 00:44:54 Americans don't get to echo luf and say like oh no that's just an alibi of you know people in the old world who you don't possess or developed moral understanding but um
Starting point is 00:45:08 you know the one of the things about people like Hitler like Muhammad like Cromwell despite the kind of dummy clif's notes um propaganda versions of Hitler's
Starting point is 00:45:22 ascendancy or what these, like, Chetnik types and these Zionists say about like Muhammad, you can be the biggest con man in the world and people aren't gonna follow you like you're a prophet. Or they're not gonna, they're not gonna decide you're like a stride
Starting point is 00:45:40 history and you know, and just, you know, say, yeah, I agree with you, you're a messianic person just because you say so. That's not the way things work. Like Hitler was the furor because that's what 80 million people said. You know, Um, Mohammed apparently was a messenger of God because, well, the entire Arabian Peninsula said he was.
Starting point is 00:46:08 You know, Al-Ahran Well, he was never particularly religious. When he was about 40 years old, he started claiming he was in communion with God. And he had no military experience, but he just like one day raised an army and uh went and cut the king's head off you know i mean like that you can um you can just like decide what you're going to be you know um and you can't you can't just uh you can't just say like subtle circumstances i'm not facilitated this like mythology being developed after the facts you know so i mean there's there's that too um i um i um But I focused on what I did today, because like I said, the main, excluding Toland, obviously, the main court history biographies of Edolf Hitler, they claim that Hitler's early life
Starting point is 00:47:15 and his purported psychological frailties and mythologies therein is what made him evil. And that coupled with this irrational desire for revenge in the wake of World War I constitutes like the psychological landscape of Hitler. okay um and none of that makes any sense but uh that's my focus on what i did and also i didn't um if people had uh things they wanted to raise about um the series generally i thought we
Starting point is 00:48:00 cover that but i i solicited questions and people didn't really have anything outstanding at least that i at least it hadn't kind of been asked and answered but that's um that's uh yeah That's basically what I got for today, man. It's sort of being this being kind of brief. But like I said, you can tell him not at 100% yet. But I hope. Not a problem. Oh, yeah, I hope.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I think I would like. What's it? I think I would like to do an episode one day where we just ask the tough questions about him. No, it's fine, man. And I'm always, um, yeah. I, uh, people are always getting on me to do a space. I, I don't really like Twitter is like a platform to do live stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:42 But we should do, I definitely like to do a stream on Hitler, you know, like basically on our series that we just completed, but on, you know, outstanding questions and stuff that people want to take up. Sure. I have a bunch too. So, well, let's do plugs and let you get back to heal it up. Yeah, I'll be fine, man. I mean, I, but yeah, thanks for the well wishes. You can find me.
Starting point is 00:49:15 My once-up shop for all my content is just my website. It's Thomas-777.com. It's number seven, H-M-A-S-777.com. The podcast and other good stuff is on Substack. It's real. Thomas-777.7.com. The Twitter is real, capital, R-E-A-L, underscore number seven. HMAS 7777
Starting point is 00:49:48 I'm on Instagram and TikTok and all that bullshit but like I said seeking you shall find like go to my Twitter go to my website all that I'm in the process of and like a colleague of mine we're pointing out of some MERS that a long last is going to be available on the gum road
Starting point is 00:50:08 and thanks again for for doing the movie series with me. People are very excited about that. And it gives me something to populate my gumroad with, as I kind of diversify products that are available and stuff. But yeah, man, that's what I got. And we'll reconvene later this week and do more stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Thank you. Have a good day.

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