The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1075: Reading Tom Woods' 'Christendom's Last Stand' w/ Dark Enlightenment

Episode Date: July 4, 2024

122 MinutesPG-13Pete invited his friend Dark Enlightenment to return to the show to read and comment on Tom Woods' 1997 article, "Christendom's Last Stand."Christendom's Last Stand by WoodsChristendom's Last Stand by DEDE's Telegram ChannelPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'VIP Summit 3-Truth To Freedom - Autonomy w/ Richard GroveSupport Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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there's subscribe star. Three, there's Patreon. Four, there's substack. And now I've introduced Gumroad, because I know that a lot of our guys are on Gumroad and they are against censorship. So if you head over to Gumroad and you subscribe through there, you'll get the episodes early and ad-free, and you'll get an invite into the telegram group. So I really appreciate that. I really all the support everyone's giving me and I hope to expand the show even more than it already has. Thank you so much. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekanino show. Dark Enlightenment's back. How you doing, D? I'm fantastic, Pete. Thank you so much for having me back. It's always a pleasure to be here. Well, we're going to read this article by Thomas E. Woods Jr. I've heard of

that guy. Me too. I think I know who that guy is. It looks like this was written in 1997, actually. And yeah, you had brought this article up. You had told me about a couple of years ago. So, you know, you had the idea of reading and commenting on it. Why? Well, if I could just fanboy out here for just a second. Tom Woods, if you hear this, you're a hero.

You're one of my personal heroes. I cannot state how much regard I hold you in and how highly I think of you and your scholarship and your stand for what is good, true, and right. And this essay in particular, when I accounted it many, many years ago, changed my life because it told me all kinds of things about the true nature of our conflict, that it's not just an economic thing or anything else.

It's a religious conflict. between good and evil. And I just, the moral clarity and truth in this particular essay just blew my mind when I first read it like 20 years ago. And I think more people need to read it. And I know Tom is normally very, very measured,

very just the facts, you know, very dispassionate. And I think that's a credit to him. But this essay in particular, I think he gets a little bit more, maybe emotional or isn't quite so disinterested scholarly, I guess. And I think that that's actually a really important part of this, is that our enemies, they're not just people that, like,

we disagree with about a 20% tax versus a 30% tax. They want bad things because they're morally bad people. and I just want to say that Tom Woods had the courage to write this, you know, 30 years ago. And it reflects very well on him. And I learned a lot from it. And so I just think more people should be aware of it. All right. Sounds that's heartfelt.

All right. Let's get into it. I'm going to start reading. And you, like always do, stop whenever you would. Christian's Last Stand by Thomas E. Woods, Jr. 1997. Richard Weaver begins, Ideas Have Consequences by admitting that this is another book

about the dissolution of the West. American conservatives have frequently looked to the New Deal for the origins of this more general dissolution, but both of these giant leaps forward had precedence earlier in U.S. history. The real watershed from which we can trace many of the destructive trends that continue to ravage our civilization today was the defeat of the Confederate States of America in 1865.

Our so-called intellectual class insists that the war was fought over slavery pure and simple, an argument which the southern activist finds himself responding to with a depressing frequency. A similarly myopic approach to history would conclude that America's first war for independence was fought over a small tax on tea. Astudent observers on both sides of the conflict, in fact, recognized the war less as a clash between two systems of labor than between two kinds of civilization. Southern theologian James Henley-Thornwell described the two sides this way. Quote, the parties in this conflict are not merely abolitionists and slaveholders. They are atheists, socialist, communist, red Republicans, jocobins on the one side, and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other.

In one word, the world is the battleground. Christianity and atheism, the combatants, and the progress of humanity is at stake. Doesn't that just describe the day to a T? Yeah, it's, uh, and whatever you he could have written that yesterday but with updates for you know

style and such but effectively right and this is why I kind of bothered Pete to get it in in June because we have an alternate religion that is imposing itself on the public

right now right if we lived in a Christian country there'd be banished to the sacred heart everywhere in every public space for the month of June. But we live in a devil country. We live in a demon country.

We live in an evil country. And so there are banners to the first sin of Satan, all in our public spaces and our banks and all our major institutions, cow d'au, to literal Satanism. And Henley Thornball saw this 150, 200 years ago. Yeah. when you look at the list, I just started my reading of The Last Crusade by Carol about the Spanish Civil War. And this is the Spanish Civil War.

Atheist, socialist, communist, red Republicans, Jacobins. Yep, it is. I was just thinking about that because I know you and I've talked about it. Last Crusade is another book that changed my life. But we'll get into that at someone later date. But no, this is vitally important to understand that these people haven't changed one bit. since Thornbow wrote that in, what, 1854 or something? I can't remember when he wrote it, but he wrote it a long, long time ago.

All right, I'm going to keep going. This assessment was quite common among Southern theologians. To the South, wrote Benjamin Morgan Palmer, is a sign the high position of defending before all nations, the cause of all religion, and of all truth. Looking back on the conflict, Robert Louis Dabney, one of the most brilliant of the Southern Presbyterian theologians, agreed that it had fallen to the South to defend eternal truths

from the onslaught of an alien ideology. Quoting, Providence ordained that the modern rationalism should select as its concrete object of attack, our form of society, and our rights. Much of the conflict, in fact, can be summed up in what Richard Weaver identified as the two types of American individualism, each of which is endemic to a particular section of the country.

Henry David Thoreau represents the philosophy of northern radicals. His is an aesthetic philosophy, which refuses to recognize any authority to which the individual has not explicitly consented, and which in any case tends to shun collective affiliations of any kind. Does that sound like now? Sounds like a lot of libertarians, even a lot of conservatives, I think. would agree with that. They would think that any kind of collectivism would be, is socialism, is communism.

Anticipating Thoreau, many modern political philosophers when speaking in favor of individual liberty, have criticized not simply the state, but also the various intermediary institutions, such as family, church, and community that stand between the individual and the state. This is certainly true in the case of Hobbes and Rousseau, who viewed with extreme suspicion

any independent association that existed wholly outside of and prior to the central state. Rousseau feared that such associations by dividing the individual's allegiance would impair the functioning of the general will. And John Stuart Mill is only one of the many classical liberals who consider the bonds of community and other such affiliations to be nearly as threatening to individual liberty as the state itself. but the cult of the individual that has flourished since the Enlightenment and which has celebrated man's progressive emancipation from the various corporate bodies that once commanded his allegiance can no longer claim the moral high ground

for what was supposed to have been mankind's most progressive enlightened century has yielded only disillusionment and alienation and I would say mass slaughter and how many people died as a direct result? I mean, you can, you can criticize the Civil War, and certainly both of us are now fans of Mr. Lincoln or the way the Civil War turned out. And, you know, when I both spent, you know, a great deal of time talking about this. But the result, right? Some guy once said, by your fruits, he shall know them.

Right. And when our Lord talked about that in the Gospels, you can apply that. Like, what's the 20th century? You know, they lied us into every war in the 20th century after this, right? Yeah, Spain didn't blow up the main, okay? Spain had gone through. How many civil wars had Spain gone through in the 19th century, Pete? Three.

Plus the wars with Napoleon, which is effectively a civil war. Right? So there's the three Carlos wars and the war with Napoleon, the occupation, the total destruction of Spain, the occupation of all Spain and Portugal right so Spain barely hanging on to its colonies right

blows up the battleship of the most powerful country in the world at that time or the second or third most powerful country with what five times the people 10 times the economy right

you know the Lusitania you know World War to we go on and on and on. But for our own good, these red Republicans, these Jacobins, these secular saviors, have lied us into all of these wars that have gotten tens of millions of people killed

and have lied about, you know, oh, your social security, where is the fruit? Where are the large, happy families? Where are the beautiful cities? Where are the, you know, gleaming roads that are in perfect repair? Where's the beautiful vistas with the nice, you know, roadside? Where is all this, where's this utopia that they promised us, you know,

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See it, buy it, get it tomorrow. Or, you know, fight branda. Individualism has, yeah, and when you, if you would criticize individualism, people will say, well, no, we never real, that wasn't real individualism. Well, what, what was it? Well, you, oh, the only way it can be individualism if a state doesn't exist?

well, that's not going to happen. So maybe stop, maybe stop making stuff up. We can talk about the Easter Bunny for an hour if people want to or Santa Claus. And then you can talk about anarchy. No, no, no, no. The problem is you just don't believe in the Tooth Fairy hard enough.

And the problem is with those Santa Claus people and the Easter Bunny people, because they're both religious fanatics. But the Tooth Fairy, that Toothberry is real. Well, I mean, the tooth fairy does create an economic zone. Well, obviously, that's why the tooth fairy is real. Because the only thing just is economics. Yeah, because Santa Claus is just a socialist just giving you stuff. But with the tooth fairy, it's a fair trade.

It's a fair trade. All right, I'm going to keep going. Oh, and before we go on, Warren McIntyreyser, I put out an episode this week on his show, talking about maybe you don't want the state to be smaller. Yes. Brilliant episode. Everyone needs to go listen to it.

Yes. He talked about blue laws. For people who don't let know, blue laws would be like, cancel alcohol on Sundays, or you can't open any stores on Sundays. And he talked about how those laws actually make the state smaller. and that is so foreign to most people who, you know, believe the state is Satan and radical individualism is Jesus, that, you know, they can't even begin to understand why blue laws would make the state smaller. Yes, and Tom will get into it later than society, but it is precisely because we've made individualism, the, the load star of our society

that the state has gotten so big because there are no more ethnic clubs or there's no more fraternal lodges and there's no more churches and there's no more associations and there's no more you know Tom will get into this in the essay but but you know

big government is not necessarily bad government a state that says I was on with Jason Jason from 2-bit podcast a couple weeks ago, right? And Jason was kind enough to have me on. And one of the things that got brought up was Jillian Michael was talking about how she was leaving California and she was just really sickened by the legalization of pedophilia

by homosexual men. And she's a half Arab, half Jewish, you know, lesbian with adopted foreign kids. who are both, you know, black and Latino and blah, blah, blah, you know, she's laying out all of her cards. She's got all the cards in the Victim Olympics. A state that just says, that's really nice, Ms. Michaels, but you're like a foreigner and a pervert,

so you just don't get to talk here, is much, much freer than a state that just says, oh, we're all individuals, right? this idea that the government, you know, any use of morals enforcement by the government is inherently wrong because it somehow impinges on the individual's freedom is how we got here. You know, if we were to wind the clock back to 1997 when Tom wrote this

and didn't change any of the inputs, we'd end up where we're at. So you need to turn things around. You need to change certain things. And one of those things that needs to change. is this idea that the state is inherently immoral when it acts for the common good. Yeah, nothing makes a libertarian anarchist or radical individualist, classical liberals, head explode more than when you tell them that degeneracy grows the state, that it expands the state at a, I mean, you're talking about you've just,

you just put the pedal on the floor. but no they don't want to hear that all they need all you need is how much how much who you remember a few years ago Matthew McConaughey won that Oscar for Dallas Buyers Club yeah right because the government

was you know deeply concerned about AIDS who was the villain in that movie that's right but the government right all of a sudden there was this, you know, crisis among degenerates that required massive state intervention. And we needed to have all kinds of state sponsorship of, you know, research for this disease and state, you know, state intervention in medicine to get this made and the state intervention to get these people in hospice and state funding for Medicare, state funding for this and state funding for that. And, you know, a huge state outlay.

Because these people, right, these people gave Anthony Fauci a bunch of power because they were sexually degenerate. No, but no, Fauci should have been working for a private company. If he was working for a private company, it would have been totally different. You know, if he was the only one who could solve the problem, no, it's the monopoly. Don't you get that? It's the monopoly. It's not my actions. My actions only affect me.

As long as I'm not hurting somebody or taking their stuff, what I'm doing to myself, that doesn't harm anyone else. Yeah, and my son still believes in the tooth fairy, but he's four. All right, let's keep going here. This kind of individualism coincides well with the design to the omnipotence state. The central state also wants to liberate the individual from his traditional. attachments, not because they infringe on his liberty, but because they compete with the central state for his allegiance. In order to obtain absolute power, the centralizers seek to crush all competing source of authority. Historically, such despots have concealed their true intentions

by claiming that only a strong central authority can adequately protect the individual. But in practice, from whom did the state protect the individual, from family members, wives from their husbands, children from their parents, from churches, from communities, and it is done so by increasing its own power at the expense of these institutions. What the row and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature. Once these institutions have been destroyed, once they have ceased to perform their traditional roles, something will step into that vacuum, and that something, is the absolute state.

See, this is where people who are radical. Yeah. This is a place where radical individualists are going to hear those last two sets. They're going to interpret it the way they want. So when it says historically, such despots have concealed their true intentions, it's like, oh, it's the despots.

It's all the despots fault. It doesn't matter if we get rid of churches and we get rid of civic organizations and we get rid of mutual aid societies. No. We've played your town with thorners. Yeah, no, no, that's fine. It's the despot's fault.

But then Tom comes back and he, you know, says, he blames, he says, Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature. That's not something that, I remember, Sheldon Richman at the Libertarian Institute, put out a book called them, what social animals owe to each other.

And when that was announced on Twitter, the amount of libertarians and anarcho-capitalists that went under it and said nothing, they don't even want to know what's in the book. They just read the title. And they said, I don't owe you anything. Okay. All right.

That's the game you want to play. If you want to play jungle ball rules, right try building a civilizate try building a gigantic bank with beautiful parquet floors

and fluted columns and towering glass skyscrapers when we're playing jungle bowl rules and we owe nothing to one another and I can just like hey I know you've mixed all this concrete

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But they have $400 AR-15s. And I have a bunch of friends. And they don't have any because they're individualists. That's the problem. See, that's the thing. You know, I'm sitting here where I'm sitting, and I know that if I get into trouble, there are people that I can call who will show up and who will help me. And I'm talking about violence, with violence.

How many people talking about individualism have that? How many people have gone out of their way to build the kind of social capital that these people would grab their guns and come and help protect me and protect mine. And I would do the same for them. How many of these individuals have that? Very few. Yeah. Yeah.

As they're hiding, you know, as they're hiding in their homes, you know, during, during COVID, tweeting about how brave they are because they didn't wear their mask and they're living room today. The political science, good. And actually, just a brief point about that. Okay, so all those, who are the people that resisted the COVID shot? Those were the people that were attached to intermediate institutions. It was the people who had a strong attachment to their church. It was the people who had a strong attachment to something else in their life that could say, you know what, someone at, you know, Brodery Club or someone at my church or someone else,

you know, said, this is nonsense and here's why. And then I looked into it and I found out it was nonsense. And, right, I was having a conversation with someone yesterday. And they didn't know that,

like, the United States blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. And they didn't know that, not because they're ignorant person or they're deliberately ignorant, they're just up to pay attention to news. It's because they pay attention to mainstream news. and the mainstream news never talked about the fact that the United States made war on Germany, right? So it is only the people that have these intermediate institutions in their lives.

And it could just be like a group chat, but had a source of information and a source of solidarity outside of the total state that were able to resist this. So we've seen it in action. You know, and I would say that there were a lot of people who flying the libertarian individual banner places like Reason Magazine and Cato, Cato, where that homosexual deviant David Boaz, who's burning in hell right now, died recently. used to, well, never mind, I won't talk about the things that have been told about people who worked at Cato, especially young men who worked at Cato, young college-age men who worked at Cato

and David Boas. You know, they defended the regime. They came out with articles about the libertarian argument for vaccine mandates. and the way they get around that is, oh, well, we just, we just ran an opinion piece. Okay. In my opinion, you know, you should have all your wealth confiscated. Your building should be salted, raised, and then salted.

You know, there's prime real estate in Washington, D.C. That would be better used as a garbage dump rather than the Cato Institute because Cato, right? Because Cato isn't actually interested in building up these intermediate institutions. and actually making people free. No, they will write articles to tear them down and say that they're unnecessary. All we need is an economic zone, you know, with a little, you know, just cut about 20% of regulations and everything will be fine. You'll have some more individual liberty.

The political scientist, J.N. Figgis, was particularly prophetic when he remarked earlier this century, quote, more and more, it is clear that the mere individuals freedom against an omnipotent state may be no better than slavery. More and more it is evident that the real question of freedom in our day is freedom of the smaller unions to live within the whole. How many people won't let Texas be Texas now because, well, the trans-disabled lesbian in Austin isn't free in Texas. So we, we in a total state must intervene on the behalf of the trans-disabled lesbian in a wheelchair and make sure that people in Texas aren't. aren't able to live the way that they want because they decided as Texans like we like guns.

So his most libertarians, radical individualism, and big government are two sides of the same coin. It has been part of the genius of southern civilizations who have recognized this all along. Repeled by a philosophy that would lead to a combination of moral anarchy and political tyranny, John Randolph of Roanoke, Weaver's second type, would have none of Thoreau's pop theology of radical individualism. He acknowledges good. Moral anarcho tyranny, right? This is all, you know, truth. I'm no fan of Fons, Erz, von Balthasar, the Catholic theologian, modernist, terrible in many, many ways. But one thing we did say that was really, really great, is that truth is a symphony.

If you hear something true, it might just kind of be the windward line off in a distance, but it's going to harmonize with the violin line that you hear somewhere else. So I hope people include a link in the show description to this essay. But when you read it, think about all the other true things that you've heard, whether it's Oren's book or Sam Francis or that we discussed a couple weeks ago on thought crimes indicated if there's anything you get from this essay think of how many times you could say oh that could have been written yesterday or that describes think you know like think about all of this stuff that's consistent with what you know all right um he he acknowledges

with aristotle that man is a political animal and that it is only through his interaction and relationships with other people and through his membership in society that he becomes truly human. Randolph's defense of state's rights, on the one hand, had a repudiation of arbitrary central authority, explicitly recognizes the individual status as a member of a corporate body, in this case, a state. Yeah, that's one thing that you'll hear some of the libertarians who don't want you to know that they're leftists, but the easiest way, I mean, there's tons of easy ways to find out when a libertarian's really just a leftist or progressive. States can't have rights. Only individuals can have rights. Well, that's not the point of state's rights, is that you can only have rights as a member

of a body. And this is something that C.J. Engel and I were talking about saying that rights don't come from nature, rights come from a historical, cultural model of who and where you came from. They're historically contingent. Right. Yeah. You cannot have, as soon as you say rights are from nature, rights come from God, while they're universal. That means that every street shitter walking over the border has a same. same rights as you do now.

And you can't say anything about it. Right. And I have no right. You know, I mean, my particular bailiff right of urban planning and city, but like, so if I have no right to defend my hometown, I have no right to defend my home. If I can't say that this is a town full of, you know, Scott's Irish people and there's the Catholic Church and the Presbyterian Church, and that's it.

And if you're not Scotch, you know, if you're not Scots-Irish, we're married to a Scots-Irish person, you know, kindly move on down the road. Yeah. Then I have, then I, then, you know, I have no right to, like, maybe what about my right to not have low trust foreigners, you know, traipsing through my yard because they felt like it, you know, they've got a right to be there, right? They live here too.

What's your problem? Yeah, I mean, how can you have private property if you have, if, if, Rights are universal. Everybody has a rights to everything. You just fight over it. That's it. It's basically, if you believe in universal rights, you basically believe in you're a Darwinist.

You believe that, you know, that I don't have any, I don't have any legacy. I don't come from anywhere. I don't have a people. I don't have any. It's just everyone for themselves. or you have a cultural historical right that a group of people agree upon.

And if you're not a part of that group, maybe you can marry into the group and you can adopt these beliefs. But these beliefs aren't for anybody who's just walking in. And people just can't get that because, you know, we live in a difference. democracy, bro. And people have rights and then people are individuals. And the state, the existence of the state is just, I mean, you can't be, you can't have individual rights if the state exists, bro. Yeah, well, Hans talked about this in multiple times, but in democracy, the guy,

it fails, right? Like, the, the border is just merely the collective property line of the net taxpayers of a particular polity. And that the net taxpayers of a particular polity don't want. you to cross that mind for whatever reason they should be able to say hey keep out those people who love going out shopping for black friday deals they're mad aren't they like proper mad

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It is almost unnecessary to point out that over the past few centuries, it has been Thoreau's brand of individualism that has flourished in Randolph's, which has suffered a precipitous decline. As Richard Weaver explained in 1948, quote, for four centuries, every man has been not only his own priest, but his own professor of ethics, and the consequence is an anarchy which threatens even that minimum consensus of value necessary to the political state. Today, of course, the message imbibed by our children and by all too many adults as well is that no moral court of higher appeal exists apart from individual whim. Bro, I just decided I'm a girl and I'm going to put on an address and you have to let me change with your daughter or you're a bigot. Yeah, I'm like 6'4 and 250 and fat and have a beard. but I'm a pretty girl Pete you have to let me you have to let me change in the same changing room as your knees

I'm just going to take your your word on that and I don't want to see a picture and this is the absurdity right of course I don't know those things but like no more cohort apart from individual whim so we have this this absolutely

insane person. It's like, I am a pretty girl and I am a six foot four man with a beard and you have to let me into the same changing room as your 12-year-old daughter. Because my individual whim says so. As long as they're not hurting anyone. As long as they're not hurting anyone. But what happens after they hurt someone? Because they're really likely to hurt people. because they're crazy and evil. What then?

How about we just prevent them hurting people by saying, yeah, no, no, like you're not a pretty girl in a dress. You're just a crazy person who needs to be locked up for your own good and the good of society. But you're acting like the overwhelming majority of these people are on meds. Yeah, maybe they are. And if they're not, they should be. Maybe a dude who's 6'4,

and 250 pounds who throws on a sundress and then says, I'm a pretty girl who's 12. Maybe that's your first clue that this person is, in fact, crazy as shit and probably doesn't belong in normal society. Continuing. It is highly significant, therefore, that the U.S. Constitution makes hardly any reference to individuals at all. It views Americans not as part of an undifferentiated mass, but as members of particular states with rights and traditions of their own.

The Bill of Rights, moreover, erroneously invoked by modern civil libertarians, was never intended to protect individuals from the state governments. Jefferson is far from alone in assisting that the only federal government, that only the federal government is restricted from regulating the press, church-state relations, and so forth. The states may do as they wish in these areas, and they know this. And that's why. Roe v. Wade, that's why when the Dobbs decision was overturned, they lost their minds

because they know it goes back to the state. And a state can be, well, you can't get an abortion here. And an abortion is, an abortion is their sacred, one of their sacred sacraments. Well, yeah, my friend Spector, the third rail many years ago, you know, we were joking around, but he came up with an insight. You know, USA stands for usury, sodomy and abortion. And it has for a long, long time. And when you have a society built on free money and sexual immorality, that's a society doomed to fail. Nine of the 13 original colonies, I think, had established churches.

You know, men were hung for sodomy. What was Maryland? Maryland. Yeah, it was Catholic. Men were hung for sodomy. in George Washington's army. Thomas Jefferson thought that Sodomite should receive the death penalty.

Thomas Jefferson, this is not, you know, arch reactionary, crypto monarchist Alexander Hamilton. This is old T.J. Pot smoking libertarian himself thought Sodomite should be executed. Right? And if you didn't like, you know,

the way of particular state, and there were actual conflicts, Tom talks about these and other books she's talked about. But, like, you know, if you were from Rhode Island and you didn't like, you know, and this happened a lot, actually, you know, particularly obnoxious people, we're like, well, I'm a congregationalist and I'm going to go into Massachusetts, the established Puritan, you know, state and just be obnoxious and cause trouble. And they'd be like, well, we don't want you here.

Leave. You're deliberately being a pain in the ass. Go away. And if, if me. As someone who lives in a red state, I don't want like pornography billboards on the side of my street, on the side of the highway. You know, I don't want my child who's just now learning to read going live nude, nud girls. Hey, mom, why does that lady not have any clothes on when we're driving on the street? I want to be able to ban that.

I don't care about your first man right to display pornography. to small children on the side of the road. And millions of other parents should have the right to say, yeah, no, no advertising strip clubs on billboards in our state. Well, I mean, that just means you're a prude of some sort and, you know, you hate other people's freedoms. You just want to. Yep.

And I have rights too. Why can't I live in the kind of society I want? Why do sane people, normal people, historically, the norm people. why do they always have to give way to red Republicans and Jacobins and crazy people and perverts? Why is it always that I have to lose and you get to win? And anytime I say, hey, I object, you get to follow me home until you're sitting on my front porch, blaring obscene music and showing my children pornography. Because technically speaking, being right outside the sidewalk in front of my house,

you're in public so I can't just shoot you technically speaking I didn't follow you home no everyone on my streets you'll say hey cut that out or we're going to you know solve this problem as a corporate body we're going to engage some some collective self-defense and stop you from acting this way sounds like fascism to me d sounds like fashion yeah well that's i i no longer really care about that sort of label call me that all day long. Yeah, it's like, and you're a fascist, and what are you going to do about it? I don't know.

I kind of honestly disappointed. There was a fascism test going around in the very good, you know, private group chat for the show. And I only scored like an 87. I don't know. I think I got an 80. I think I got an 83. Oh, wow. I mean, I was hoping for a 90.

I was hoping for an A, but I'll take the B plus. Yeah, I'll be fine with the B. All right. For the first seven decades of its existence, the United States found its constituent parts very rebellious indeed. Many Americans would have agreed with John Randolph of Roanoke, about whom John Greenlift Whittier once wrote, To be honest or too proud to feign,

a love he never cherished, beyond Virginia's borders line, his patriotism, patriotism perished. Well, not only was John Randolph a great American and a great man, but like, how absurd is it that we have military bases from Maine to Hawaii and from Florida to Alaska, and that someone from Hawaii, a congressional representative from Hawaii, a senator from Hawaii, can vote on stuff that happens in Maine. or someone in Florida can vote on something that happens in Alaska

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Liddle, more to value. It's ridiculous. You know, maybe if you. you were in Alabama, you might have some say about what happens in Georgia and Florida and Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee. Because those could affect you. What do you care what happens in Idaho? Like if you care what happens in Idaho as someone from Alabama, there's something wrong with you. well, because what they accuse us of is what they're always guilty of. They accuse us of caring about what's happening, you know, what they're doing in their bedroom

across the country while they're, you know, worried about what we're doing. You know, if I never have to go above the Mason-Dixon line again, I'll be happy. I'm fine where I am. But, yeah, they're, they, you know, and another thing is they hate us because, you know, we believe in God, we go to church, we do this. I mean, they have their own God. They have their own church. Yes. They have their, and they don't realize it.

They don't realize that, like, you know, if they find out that Alabama outlawed abortion, they're going to want to do something about it. okay why you live in new york what do you care why do you care what happens in alabama they're just a bunch of dumb rednecks anyway why do you care well they can't be dumb rednecks why why can't they be dumb rednecks i mean if you think that they're a bunch of troglodyte knuckle dragging

hicks who you know drive f-250s and you know smoke marlborough reds and dip and You go to evangelicals. Base. Yeah. Why do you care what these people do? Oh, because your religion compels you to.

Well, my religion compels me to stop people murdering babies. Yeah. Well. So which religion is true? Well, there's only one way to solve that particular problem. And it ain't through argumentation ethics. Nope. Oh, no.

No. I caught you in a performative contradiction. I win. I win. Wait a minute. Why are you pointing a gun at me? Oh, because no one in the real world gives a fuck about argumentation ethics. You have to be some autistic, you know, frigging, I'm not going to straw man them.

But they, yeah, there's just, I mean, theory is, fun. Yeah, I like reading. I like reading theory, but I also exist. I exist in the real world. And in the real world, there are people, and there are people who you have to, you either respect their boundaries and you do what you can to help them if they need it, or you are going to have chaos. And the best way to not have a problem with helping them or even having

the local government force people to help them, but which you don't really need to do if you share a culture and you share values, you share religion, you sound alike, you look alike. There was no problem

in Sweden with their gigantic welfare state until they started importing, and still they started emptying the prisons of Africa and putting those people in there. Then it became a problem. Until there was a bunch of Swedes. Economics aside. Yeah, it wasn't a problem because they all looked alike. Oh, they believed they were all in different Lutherans. They were all Swedish genetically.

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Then, yep, then there. And live there, a significant amount of time there. Live there. Yep. Then you can start to recognize, like, that guy's not just German. He's like Bavarian. You know, like pure Bavarian phenotype is a thing. Right?

Like, oh, that guy's a Saxon. Well, how do you know? I mean, we'll just, just look at the guy. He's from Saxony. all of his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, great-grandparents, all of them were Saxons. And probably he came from this, and I'm not very good at it, but if you spend any significant amount of time in, you know, Europe and start to notice these things, you can notice like, this guy's from this place. And most of the time you're right. Right.

One of the rules I have in my life is that no one, no one. no woman with East Anglia face should ever be allowed to have political power and you can see it like kind of the pinched schoolmarm look the Elizabeth Warren Governor Kate Brown of Oregon right like nope nope just no you look like you told Goody Thompson

said Goody Thompson was having sex with the devil I'm just not going to let you have political power because that East Angley and school marm stuff just leads to disaster as Tom has elucidated here. All right, let's go. We got more to, I just checked. We got a good bit more here. So, all right.

Upon ratifying the Constitution, for example, several states explicitly reserve the right to withdraw from the new union, quoting, whatsoever the same shall be perverted to her injury or oppression, unquote. And all the states retain the spirit of resistance well into the 19th century. John Taylor of Caroline, repelled by the Alien and Sedition Acts, advocated secession as early as 1798. Madison and Jefferson drew up the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions, respectively, the latter of which suggested the doctrine of nullification, whereby a state government could interpose between the people and the federal government when the latter exceeds its legitimate constitutional authority. And Tom has a full book called Nullification. You read all about it.

After the Louisiana purchase, and then again, after Jefferson's 1807 embargo, former Secretary of State Timothy Pickering gained some temporary support for a plan by which New England and New York would succeed and form an independent country. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard. Yeah, right, yeah. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard as secessionist in character, but we now know that it was convened by moderate federalists who hoped to keep secessionist sentiment at bay. The point remains, however, that secessionist sentiment was widespread and by no means was it confined to the south.

And these are but a few of the lesser-known examples of the jealousy with which the states once guarded their sovereignty and independence. The nullification crisis of the early 1830s, for instance, has not even been mentioned. The secession of the southern states was virtually the last sign of, of life to emerge from a once vibrant federal system. For by the 1860s, such figures as Andrew Johnson and Ben Wade were prepared to dismiss as traitors anyone who even applied, appealed to the Constitution, let alone advocating secession. And in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 1869, that secession was unconstitutional.

Not surprisingly, after the war, it became common to replace the old expression, the United States are with the United States is, or these United States, they replace these United States with the United States. Most significant for our purposes was the ratification by highly questionable means of the 14th Amendment. Now we can debate the original intent of this amendment, but it seems clear that it inaugurated a radically new stage in American constitutional history. From the point of view of the federal essential government, The fundamental units of the Federal Union were no longer the several states, but the individuals of which those states were composed.

Can I talk about this for a second? Sure. So just as an exercise, it's a useful thing to do. Copy and paste the text of the 14th Amendment into your word processor. And then do the same for the first 10 amendments. The 14th Amendment is like as much, much text as the entire bill of rights. I'm pretty sure.

I've done this a couple times, and I can't, I don't have it offhand. But, right, like it, it is verbose to the point of being absurd. And Chris Caldwell has talked about this in the age of entitlement. But basically, we live in this 14th Amendment state where everything is justified through this particular interpretation of the 14th Amendment, right? Like liberals and conservatives are arguing over good faith or bad faith interpretations of the 14th Amendment. You know, the reason that the Constitution had, like, in the very, very fine print

that gay dudes can get married, quote-unquote, married, is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't regulate who lives on your street as a neighborhood is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't prevent people from posting pornographic billboards in public is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't the 14th amendment has basically taken over the rest of the Constitution as like the lens through which everything is interpreted and everything bad that we're dealing with, whether it's sexual perverts or an overreaching state or, you know, racial problems or problems between sexes. All of these come down to like this weird interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

that like the 14th Amendment demands we'd shoot ourselves in the head on behalf of trans disabled lesbians and wheelchairs or like America isn't real and you know if you don't think that the 14th Amendment demands this interpretation you like hate America puppies apple pie and and all good all things good in the world and Orrin talks about this in his book but like the 14th Amendment has been so abused

and so perverted that I think the only way to deal with it is just scrap the whole damn thing and I don't I'm not a lawyer and I wouldn't be the first person to ask of how to how to fix it but you just can't

allow this sort of egregious misinterpretation to continue because it's been proven to be so open to abuse yeah I just did this really quick I did some quick copy and paste made a document. The first, the 14th Amendment

is one page of this PDF with a little bit of the First Amendment at the bottom of the first page. The Bill of Rights goes through the second page and one line on the third

page. So basically the Bill of Rights is about four or five lines longer than the 14th Amendment. So 10 amendments are four or five lines longer than the 14th Amendment. Right. And all of it's been abused. Every single clock amendment has been abused to the point of making it just something

when we can't depend on it anymore. It has to be scrapped. Another good book, Tom Woods, and I think Kevin Gutsman, who killed the Constitution. It shows how basically every, it goes through every, basically every all the bill of rights and I think through

all the amendments and shows which president and how they basically destroyed them all. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Great, great book. Highly, highly recommended. All right. Let me see. Okay, where was I? We're composed.

Okay. The architects of this constitutional revolution were less than candid about what they were doing. The beginning of this process by which American federalism was destroyed was couched in the saccharine language of justice and rights. The states cannot be trusted to protect the individual Americans were told. Only the federal leviathan can do this. So once again, in the name of protecting individual liberty, the central state set out to crush an important intermediate institution. The state governments. Well, how, yeah. I got an argument many, many years ago with a prominent

conservative guy who was decrying how awful the federal government was and I pointed out to him like brought without you know federal funds pst did you know those black Friday deals everyone's talking about they're right here at beacon south quarter that designer's sofa you've been wanting it's in soul both concept and rushburoix the dream kitchen check out at cube kitchens

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The state governments at present moment are no more than pass-through entities for federal funds. Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP benefits, Section 8 housing, state highway transportation funds, right? Look at your state's budget. How much of that is federal funds? I guarantee you, guarantee you it's at least 30%. And that doesn't count like federal matching grants for local school districts that don't necessarily touch the federal budget or the state budget.

I guarantee you at least 30% of your state budget is federal funds. So the states have effectively been erased as sovereign entities. I mean, never let, you know, never mind. to 17th Amendment and whatever else. But the state governments have been destroyed and they've been conquered and they're merely just past three entities of Levi. Yeah, I mean, I've tried to tell people this as somebody who, you know, has worked in an official capacity at one point that, you know, if your state has like emissions testing,

it's not because the state wants emissions testing. It's because the federal government wants emissions testing in your state and has said we will pull funds if you don't do emissions testing in your state. Right, the 55 mile an hour speed limit. Yeah, all of that. Yeah, 55 mile an hour speed limit.

Insurance, car insurance, seatbelt loss, all of that. All of it. Where we go? Although a moderately conservative Supreme Court was able to keep at bay, the utter obliteration of the federal system, the 14th Amendment, has since become Washington's

favorite tool for imposing its will on what remains of the states. The human rights that it seeks to protect grow stranger and stranger every year. The 14th Amendment was invoked a few years ago, as you know that will recall, to vindicate the inalienable human right of an unqualified, overweight woman to attend an all-male military Academy. Noted that that woman is now in Congress. That was Nancy Mace. And she's a disgusting, disgusting person. But that was the Citadel. And it's like, this was written 30 years ago. Right. Now we literally have, instead of, instead of women attending the Citadel, we now have, you know, men bathing with women, people in wheelchairs demanding that they be allowed

into professional sports leagues. I mean, there is literally no limit to which these people will stretch the meaning of words, and it is beyond satire. The British libertarian and southern sympathizer Lord Acton saw all this coming and expressed his profound anguish

to Robert Ely in 1866. Quote, I saw in states' rights the only availing check upon the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction, but as the redemption of democracy. Therefore, I deem that you are fighting the battle for our liberty, our progress, and our civilization. And I mourned for the stake that was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that

which was saved at Waterloo. Well, look what happened. Germany is no longer sovereign. Italy is no longer sovereign. Spain is no longer sovereign. England is no other sovereign. They're occupied by American troops. and anytime, I mean,

AFD is pretty moderate, but the German federal, you know, deep state, intelligence agencies are monitoring those people and saying, throwing people in jail for saying that the German should be, Germany should be German, right?

My friend Mark Collette can't organize his political party, his patriotic alternative. They've been erected by, rejected by the electoral commission like 10 times, right? So Lord Acton was completely correct here. They saved themselves at Waterloo, but that same Leviathan, which won at Richmond,

has taken over England, France, Germany, Italy, is taking over Poland right now, is taking over Spain. But if there was a genuine popular revolt in Germany, you know and they were playing else linda rouse as they did it does anyone really doubt that the american troops stationed in germany wouldn't just go out and crush those people do you really think the american troops who were stationed in germany you know who are you know there because of the cold war which ended 35 years ago that we're supposed to they were never they were never there for the

cold war i mean that sure yeah okay but it was to keep Germany in line. It was to keep Europe in line. It was to keep Europe under Zionist control. Right. Well, of course, you and I both know that. But like the ostensible reason, right, is like, oh, we got to have U.S. troops in Ramshund Air Base because, like, fold the gap at stuff, bro.

Like the German, brave German firebock will stop the Soviet tanks at the fold of gap and we'll fight shoulder to shoulder with, you know, the Bundeswehr to stop the communist menace well okay well maybe if Germans as Germans say you know we don't feel like having all these people who are foreigners here who rape children and don't work and don't contribute and produce graffiti everywhere and have kids that they like they're just destroying our country we want them out.

What is Ramstein going to be done? The U.S. Air Force will be used to bomb those people in Germany because Lord Acton was completely correct. All right, I'm going to keep going. Just as Northern Radical sought to make the individual the fundamental political unit, so also did they attempt to make him supreme in the moral and ethical sphere. This is particularly true in the case of the abolitionists, many of whom stated frankly that if forced to choose between their private beliefs on the one hand

and the Holy Scriptures on the other, they would be compelled to jettison the Bible. What Southern theologians found especially alarming was the dubious method of argumentation which the abolitionists employed. They might have argued, to offer just one example, that biblical slavery might not be analogous to modern slavery. There were certainly a number of such arguments, which, if not compelling, at least were based on relevant considerations. But the abolitionist tended instead to make vague appeals to the spirit of the New Testament. And the result of this kind of reasoning, the Southern Divines recognized, was the moral anarchy that ensues when, as we ever put it, every man becomes his own professor of ethics.

It is worth recalling that a good number of anti-slavery feminists took the next step and compared the status of the slave to that of the married woman. In fairness, a great many abolitionists were horrified by this line of argument, but having made their bed, they were now being forced to sleep in it. Dabney was rather amused at the spectacle of anti-feminist abolitionists, desperately trying to refute feminist claims, when in fact the feminists were only using the abolitionist approach to biblical exegesis. Pete, have you ever taken a road trip to rural America?

Yeah. I mean, I live in pretty much. I live in pretty rural America. Okay. So I've done it a few times. An interesting exercise for you folks out there in radio land. Once you get like really rural, I've had this experience more than once. Hit search on the dial, right? The rock station, pop station, and then you'll hit, you know, 989.7 low end of the dial low power and this is Bible hour

but Pastor John and today we're going through the Bible Gospel of John chapter 2 verse 3 and he'll preach on that for an hour and the next thing you'll hit is 91.7 National Public Radio

for Upper Missoula Valley and then through the rest of the dial and the only two radio stations you'll get in large parts of rural America are NPR and the Christian radio station

for the exact same reason this is very real you are not lying a lot of things but dishonest isn't one of them the reason those two radio stations are the only stations you can get in large parts of America is that they're both religious radio stations NPR is just religious radio for secular liberals. I'll never forget,

you know, many years ago, I was sitting in my coming home from church and I like to listen to the enemies radio and, you know, morning edition Sunday. And they had their segment with their ethicist. And I was just thinking to myself, what the fuck? do they have an ethicist for like i just got back from church if i really want to know what if i have an ethical problem i'll go see my pastor and then i realized wait a minute none of these people have a pastor npr is their religion like this is just religious radio for shit lips and right so all of the the disaster of the 19th amendment i mean i've talked about it you know if you really want to understand how bad it was talk to our friend mutual friend charles bedeele right

But like, this is the same impulse. These people are just secular progressives. It is just as much a religion as I declare that the KGV is the only valid time translation of the Bible. And anybody who uses anything other than the King James Version is a heretic and an apostate. you must understand that this Bible is the word of God. There's no difference. And the lie is that the NPR person will say, oh, well, we're not religious.

We're just telling you the news. Bullshit. You're just as religious as the guy who thinks that everything you ever needed to know was in the King James Bible. He's just honest about it. And you're lying. Yep. I mean, it's 100%.

I mean, everything you said was true. It's out here. Yeah. And it really is. It really is when you meet somebody who is a liberal, says they're a liberal, if you meet somebody who, if you meet a college professor, they have NPR. When they start their car, NPR comes on.

It's their religion. gestation. 100%. Cannot argue with you at all. I'm going to keep going here. The South has never been fertile soil for religious liberalism. This is not to say that Southerners are guilty of the unforgivable sin of intolerance. As Professor Eugene Genovese reminds us, a kind of tolerance is observed in both North and South, but it is a different kind in each place. In the north where religion is more frequently considered a matter of mere individual preference and whim, the attitude is, you worship God in your way, and we'll worship him in ours. But in the South, where tolerance is not the same thing as indifference, people are more likely

to say, you worship God in your way, and we'll worship him in his. Unitarianism, for example, utterly failed to take root in the South, and in 1860, only 20 of the country's 664 universalist churches could be found below the Mason-Dixon line. Resisting the spirit of the age, Southern Calvinists refused to adulterate the Christian faith with 18th century philosophies and refrained from turning Jesus Christ into a divine Barney the Dinosaur. Many Southern observers notice that the Northern society in which individual conscience and rationalist philosophies has replaced scripture as the generally accepted authority lacked a certain stability that was so conspicuous in the south. As Donald Davidson put it in the attack on Leviathan, quote,

while the North has been changing its apparatus of civilization every 10 years or so, the South has stood its ground at a fairly safe distance and happily remained some 40 or 50 years behind the times. The South has never been able to understand how the North, in its astonishing quest for perfection, can junk an entire system of ideas almost overnight and start on another one, which is newer, but no better than the first. That is one of the principal differences out of many real differences between the sections. And it's, I mean, how true is it?

You know what my favorite thing about driving through a small town, small southern town is, Pete? but is uh you get out of the big cities and you'll drive through a small town in Alabama or Mississippi which I've done and I'll be like man we got a we got a lot of diversity here we got a Presbyterian church a Baptist church and a Methodist church hell we even got a Catholic church that is my favorite thing and right there in the middle of town you know for those of you who know me right I care very deeply about about town planning and the way we the structural way which we live our lives right right in the middle of town you will have a presbyterian church a baptist church and a methodist church and

maybe a catholic church on the outskirts the catholic church is on the outskirts in our town yeah of course it is but like right that's that's that's diversity in the south is you got a press Presbyterian Church for the Scottish people. Methodist Church for the Welsh people. Maybe an Anglican church. But that's diversity. We even have a Seventh-day Adventist church here. Oh, my heavens.

Yeah. We are diverse. But they're all right on Main Street, ain't they? They are. All of them. That's right. The Seventh-day Adventist one is right downtown, right next to the flower shop. Yeah.

All right, let me go. In his own assessment, Dabney was characteristically blunt. Quote, we might safely submit the comparative soundness of Southern society to this test,

that it has never generated any of those loathsome isms which northern soil breeds, as rankly as the slime of Egypt that spawns of frogs. While the North has her Mormons, her various sects of communists, her free lovers,

or spiritualists, and a multitude of corrupt visionaries whose names and crimes are not even known among us, our soil has never proved congenial to the birth or introduction of a single one of those inventions. The South has indeed stood firmly over the years against a series of deplorable trends in politics and religion, but her adversary is tenacious. Liberalism has no logical stopping point, no points of rest. Once one traditional belief is institutional, or institution, has been undermined. mind? The liberal proceeds to his next conquest. The number of practices we are expected to tolerate,

for example, seems to increase by the hour. The University of Massachusetts, apparently in all seriousness, has added pedophiles to its list of protected groups under its non-discrimination policy. And that's now, like, yeah, 30 years ago, the University of Massachusetts was full of crazy people and Communists and well pretty other wacko leftists and now you can't discriminate against you know LGBT LM and OP people

Yeah Oh yeah A useful exercise That liberals always fail Is you ask a conservative In what society would you be a liberal And they'll say I'd be a liberal in like

Zaris Russia in 16th And you ask liberals, like, in what society would you be a conservative? And they never have an answer. Because they're always chasing perfection on earth, which if you read your Bible, it's not possible. The same is true in the political arena. The revolution that began in the 1860s has proceeded to this day with a cold and relentless logic. It was a vain hope that the left would be satisfied with undermining state and local authorities.

Now its target is national sovereignty. The old struggle between the local and particular on the one hand and the abstract and universal on the other is being carried out on this new level. Two years ago, while at Harvard, I attended an address by Jack Kemp, who could hardly contain his excitement as he described the ideal international order that he saw coming rapidly to fruition, what he called the World Without Borders. Kemp's World Without Borders,

the logical outcome of the process I have described in which the smaller associations which once claimed men's allegiances have been gradually and deliberately weakened. We have witnessed over the past decades, and especially since the end of the Cold War, the growth of transnational, globalist elites for whom patriotic sentiments and national sovereignty are so many obstacles to be overcome in the construction of a new world order. in the course of building a centralized national government, it suffices to weaken the competing authorities of families, churches, local governments, state governments, and so on.

And if you are a libertarian seeking to tear those down, you are on their side. Well, what's the point of going to Paris and evening McDonald's? Yeah. What's the point of visiting Florence or Rome or Berlin or or Madrid and and seeing strip balls,

right? Like, I want to go to Alabama and I want my local barbecue pit to be operated by either, like, the most Scots,

Irish dude you've ever seen or like a guy is so cold black that, like, like bends around him. I got both of those for you. Okay. I'll have to come hang out.

Brett, Right. And I want that guy to be like, like, this is where we get the wood from. And you can point to me to the tree stand that his family has been using for the last 150 years to get their oak to smoke the wood over. And while I'm eating his biscuit, I want him to trash North Carolina barbecue as like completely inferior. Right. Mustard. While you talk about mustard in my. shop. Don't you know that white sauce is the one true way to barbecue? Don't you understand? I want that because and then I want to go to North Carolina and be like, have the guy go, Alabama white sauce. Get out of you. Right. Like that's the point. Right. This,

this, this, this idea that the Jack Kemp had that right, that everywhere could just have the same, you know, whoa, Burke, King, McDonald's, Wendy's. That's all the diversity we need. It's, it's, It's both anti-human and disgusting. It's stupid and evil. Yeah, and just to remind everybody, Jack Kemp was a Republican. So, yeah, there you are. Paul Ryan was his greatest disciple.

All right. But for those who would construct the unitary global state, there remains a persistent problem of national allegiance and loyalty. A few of the methods of choice employed by those who would absorb the United States, into a global regime include a policy of open immigration, which balkanizes the populace and makes resistance to central states' designs

less likely. The promotion of multiculturalism intended to make children ashamed of their country and its history, and trade agreements like NAFTA and GATT, which delegate legislative authority to unaccountable supernational bodies. Oh, and I'll just mention.

mentioned everything that we just mentioned there in those parentheses, a few of the methods of choice, the Cato Institute and Reason Magazine and those like libertarian kind of thing. And Cato, the reason I bring up Cato is politicians listen to Cato. They actually use Cato. They use them because Cato is a Cato is seen as an institute that wants, an institution that wants freedom. So if I say, oh, wow, look at this. It says open borders. It's from that Nostorasta, that fucking guy on Twitter.

He just did this. He did this immigration, and it shows that immigrants were net positive, economically. None of this stuff. Everything here, they employ pro-Nast. Well, he wears a, you know, leather, jacket, dude, and he's a rebel, man. I mean, you know, and, and, you know, I know a lot of people who call themselves like conservative libertarians would call themselves right libertarians.

They would argue that open immigration is the right policy because if not, you're using the police and that just turns everything into a police state and you're, what, what do you like, you like the police? Are you a statist? Yeah. When the status is used on communist and trainees, yeah. Yes. Yeah, when you use a state on your enemy, it's actually a good thing.

Oh, but at some point, if you grow the power of the state, then when you lose power, they can use that power. Yeah, they're doing that right now. So shut the fuck up. That's what they're doing right now. Okay. Why do I have to worry about the SPLC coming after me trying to destroy my life and docks me and find where I live and toss and insight?

communist to firebomb my house, right? Oh, oh, wait a second. Fucking morons. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And, you know, and I was there at one point. I was a libertarian at one point, but

just wake up. I mean, I'm fully, I'm almost fully convinced that like 80% of the people who are still libertarians just do it because it's an identity. they don't have an idea they're not a christian they're not a husband they're not a father they need an identity and libertarian is their identity yeah and if they stop being libertarian

they get out of the you know porkfest facebook facebook group they'll have nothing yeah madeline albright our new secretary of state made a quite revealing remark in a recent commencement address at brandeis university because our country was founded on individual liberty she claimed, and not on loyalty to family or clan, Americans are particularly suited for real global citizenship. Without these competing loyalties, Americans can be disinterested advocates for the entire human race. Tikumolam, anybody?

Mm-hmm. There was a time. This is a lady who claimed that killing 500,000 kids by starving them to death in Iraq was worth it. It was worth it for her tribe. But when we want to talk about our tribe, well, that's not allowed. We can't even put a tribe together. If we put a tribe together, if we put a tribe together, there's Rico laws.

Yeah, I'm a Scots-I Irish Redneck. I literally can't advocate for my tribe because the last time we tried it, they literally named it, you know, like the KKK Act afterwards. like wait this is just this is just this is just Celtic self-expression what's your problem the KKK is just just us as a people advocating for our own interests why do you object to that

Madeline Albright right? So this is this is again right this is this is a Jewish Holocaust Mahalhahaust yeah this is a Jewish woman claiming right that she gets to speak for the entire human race on behalf of Americans. Disgusting. There was a time, of course, when one was considered part of the lunatic fringe for suspecting that we were moving toward world government. Today, our rulers are amazingly frank.

Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, for example, recently remarked that the United States in Western Europe should enter into what he called an Articles of Confederation-type relationship. Strobe Talbot looks forward to the day when nationhood, as we know it, will no longer exist when we will all look to a single global authority and who do you suppose will be staffing that. I can tell you who it will be, but you're going to call me anti-Semitic. Right. And right now, the EU and NATO, right, they're just Zog supremacy of Europe. Like Thomas says, and, you know, if you haven't been listening to the stuff that Thomas puts out and the stuff that Thomas and people together, you're missing out. They're basically,

like graduate level college courses, you know, on a podcast and I listened to all of them. But right, like until the nations of Europe can say, we no longer wish to be under the yoke of Zog, they're not free. We, and that's the only issue. You know, the Danish government did a study asking how much immigrants, like, contributed to the economy. And they found it was like to the negative in hundreds of. billions of croaker. There's no point.

No, I'm sorry. How can the district government just say, like, okay, well, then these people want to go home? I guarantee you, right? American troops would use violence against the Danish government if the Danes sent all the Turks home. There is no point in multiplying examples. Let it suffice to say that recent trends

towards global centralization provide ample reason for concern. Equally certain is that the global status do not particularly like places like the American South, and they detest all that she stands for. Like all centralizers, they prefer a subject population of atomized individuals with no particular attachments. People, in other words, who are content to eat Big Macs, vote in sham elections, and watch Seinfeld. This really is dated. It would be naive to suppose, well, that's the only thing that really dates this, is the Seinfeld reference. it would be naive to suppose that the South is not also cursed with this kind of apathy.

But the growth of the Southern League and the continuing popularity of Southern partisan reminds us that many Southerners are prepared to defend their civilization. And a people that still possesses even a spark of resistance, a sense of history and tradition, and attachment to the locality and a strong Christian faith is a potential threat to the left's new order. Can I tell you about something that changed my life? That was 1994, 1995 or something.

It was in a small local bookstore in the Pacific Northwest. And I came across, I was already political conservative. It was in high school. It's kind of a nerd. So I spent all my, you know, I'd work summers and basically all my money, money went to books and I came across a copy of Southern Partisan magazine and I think the cover was are you tired of the government we need to roll back the 60s not just the 1960s but the 1860s I remember looking at the cover going huh what because of course I had the standard American

education and but Tom's completely correct here right that this This is what has happened to us as a society is we can't even begin to discuss things in terms that were normal in 1840 and all time periods prior to that. One thing that's striking once you learn a little bit more is you realize that the man from, say, 8th century France and the man from 16th century France. and the man from 16th century New England or no 17th century New England could basically talk to each other could converse they were they were agrarian they were Christian

they understood the world in the same basic terms and those same basic terms extended from the fall of Rome all the way up until the middle 19th century And until that point, there was a decisive break. And we, this liberalism that Tom Woods is talking about kind of took over. And so the vocabulary doesn't really match, right?

But it is precisely that questioning of why can't I read the same books as my ancestors and come and understand them in the terms that they understood themselves that has caused the problem? But why are they so afraid of me reading a book from 1550 or from 1,050 and understanding Thomas Aquinas as he understood himself? Why are they upset with me thinking the same way that someone in Alabama in 1850 understood himself? What's the problem with that? Those are my ancestors. Why shouldn't I understand what my great, great, great grandfather thought of as himself when he put it on his diary, you know, what's wrong with that? Why do they hate it? And then that's a very, very revealing question. I think we know the answer, but, yeah. Indeed, Southerners have had too many strange philosophies shoved down their throats are ready to go quietly in the face of this one.

As former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan explained, speaking not of Southerners in particular, but of his supporters in general, we love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like New World Order, we release the safety caches on our revolvers. Make no mistake, the persecutors of the South hate her today for the same reasons they hated her in 1860. An 1868 article in the Pro-South Periodical, the land we love summed them up quite well. well. Quote, her conservatism, her love of the Constitution, her attachment of the old usages of society, her devotion to principles, her faith and Bible truth. All these involved her in a long and bloody war with the radicalism which seeks to overthrow all that is venerable, respectable, and of good repute. So the war between the states, far from a conflict

over mere material interests, was for the South a struggle against an aesthetic individualism in an unrelenting rationalism in politics and religion in favor of a Christian understanding of authority, social order, and theology itself. The intelligent left knows this, and even the incurably stupid like Carol Mosley-Bron, must at least sense it. For all their ignorant blather about slavery and civil rights, what truly enrages most liberals about the Confederate battle flag is its message of defiance. They see it in the remnants of the traditional society determined to, to resist cultural and political homogenization

and refusing to be steamrolled by the forces of progress. I've been a northerner for my entire 24 years, but when we reflect on what was really at stake in the late unpleasantness, we can join with Alexander Stevens in observing that the cause of the South is the cause of us all. Amen, amen. I've been privileged by my work in Zidarsphere, to do a couple things.

And one of those things that I've been able to do is to become correspondence with Dr. Michael Hill, who's been the chief of the lead of itself for the entirety of existence coming up on 30 years now, and I guess Tom wrote this back.

But the thing that needs to be understood is that the people who are against us aren't against us because they have a minor disagreement. or they have this slightly different interpretation of things. They're blowing up this minor discreet to a major fight. They're atheist individualistics, race hustlers, communists,

Zionist Jews, who seek to destroy not only you personally, because you're listening to this program. And merely listening to this program is enough reason for them to want to see you destroy. but they seek to destroy it because they hate good things and God bless Tom Woods for having the courage and foresight to see all this stuff 30 years ago 25 years ago when 30 years ago when he wrote this and God bless Michael Hill for continuing bear the charge of a free and independent south but that that same civil war that you know was brought to people in places like Chickamauga and Gettysburg and Manassas and countless other places all across the south.

That's brought to your doorstep right now by the same people and the same ideas. And they want you just as dead as the boys in gray who fell at all those different places. For the same reasons. They hate you. They hate you for going to church. They hate you for being married. They hate you for being straight. They hate you for being white.

They hate you for actually believing the Bible. They hate you for any number of reasons. And there's no getting along with them. There's no coming to some sort of reasonable motives of Vendi. There's no saying this is the Methodist side of the street, and that's the Presbyterian side of the street, like you see in small southern towns. These people want to destroy everything.

That is good, true, and beautiful. And that's why I do what I do. That's why I take the risk that I take. And anybody that wants to pretend that we can come kind of, you know, live with these people, I invite you to read this essay in its entirety and tell me where Tom was wrong. Because you can't. You know, I have this thing every once in a while you get on social media where if you're talking about I'll do or even about Adolf.

You know, people will be like, they'll post a picture of Mussolini hanging upside down, or, you know, they'll tell you to follow your leader and blow your brains out like Adolf. Just understand. The people who defeated them, they're forebearers of the people who are in charge right now. The people who hung Mussolini upside down and killed them, those are the same, they're the same group of people, not literally, because those people are dead, but they are the forebearers of the people who want to trans your kids, want to teach your kids about gay anal sex when they're in kindergarten.

The same ones who basically started a war, basically got the world to fight against one country in the middle of Europe, they're the ones in charge right now. they are their ideological ancestors and they view you if you if you just want to be a dude who goes to church on sundays and lightly bans your baptist friends about infant baptism while you go to your presbyterian church or your anglican church in a small southern town they view you as the same as the nazis is Confederates. They see you in a gray uniform. Doesn't matter which side you're fighting for, right? Said many times that all my heroes wore gray. They don't see a distinction between you and the Nazis or the Confederates or George Washington or El Cid or Charles Martel or

Julius Caesar. They see you all as bad. And I hate you. And they want you to die. And I I want your children to be destroyed and want your church to be destroyed and they want the beautiful buildings that your ancestors built or you maintain to be torn down and they hate all good things and they're proud of it and they it's a crusade they're on a crusade it's a crusade for evil and I would strongly yours people to listen to Pete's readings of the Last Crusade by Charles Carroll because it lays it out pretty starkly as well. For many, many years, Charles Spadio and I have bands back and forth that we're at the moment now

where we're basically spring 1936 in Spain. Everybody knows that something's coming. You just got to pick a side. So are you on the side of Order Liberty, let me quote here, you know, Are you in the side of red Republicans, atheists, communists, bringing the side of order to liberty, regulated freedom? Which side do you want?

I'm on my side, bro. I'm just on my side. I'm an individual. I'll just fight this out. I'll just fight this out from my homestead. Good luck. Yeah. And those are the kind of people,

the kind of people who say that. I don't want to wish bad upon anyone, but you're useless. You're less than useless because you know, you know, and you're just choosing to do everything you can to promote an ideology that this regime has been promoting since 1860. and it's just pathetic it's just pathetic take it from somebody who used to do that take it from someone who used to promote it

it's pathetic and I repents of it every day I'm embarrassed that I ever promoted one of the reasons we're friends beat and I don't mind if you don't mind like the amount of money

you've given up by not promoting this stuff is ridiculous and I'm going to I'm going to talk about my friend Pete here for just a second. Understand, dear listener, that I am the most toxic thought criminal out there aside from a few buddies who co-host a podcast. I'm openly racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic.

You name the bad thing that I'm it. And because Pete saw that I was right about this, that, the other thing, when I reached out to him, he could have said, ew, don't touch me. you you're gross oh god i'm gonna you're gonna cost me a ton of money no he reached out his hand in friendship and said oh that's interesting uh you know whatever you got to say and then i told him a couple things i had to say and that sounds right to me and you know i don't mind saying i think that pete and i are good friends now been a couple years but rather than protect his own income

or his own prestige or his own, you know, standing within the community. Pete went after the truth at the cost of everything else. And that matters above all things. Go to the place, you know, freeman beyond the wall slash donate, I think. Support. Slash support.

Okay. I'm sorry. Right. That's all right. I just said you, be a cash app privately. I don't know. Right?

But, okay, with all these forces of all these evil people who want to use the centralized safety to destroy everything, and you've just heard us talk about, again, someone I admire very, very much, Tom Woods,

who has been a hero of mine for 20 years, draw the battle lines. When Pete could have pretended to be neutral, as so many people do. and ranked in not tens of thousands of dollars, but hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe even millions of dollars. He said, nope, I'm going to choose the right side. And that cost him a lot of money and a lot of friends and a lot of other things. And he stood for you between your children and the people who want to turn them into homosexual trainees and wheelchairs who want them to be atheist.

communist, red Republicans, Jacobins, and I think that you should do as I've done and support Pete for that. And support the people that don't hate your children. Support the people that don't hate the possibility of you having children.

I appreciate that. I mean, I appreciate that. It's just, you know, I'm not, I'm not one of those people who can lie. I can't live a lie. I've never been able to live a lie. So, you know, once I learn something and once I'm presented with more information, I changed my mind.

I have to change my mind and I have to talk about it. I have a platform. You know, for better or worse, I have a platform that people listen to. And, you know, when I saw that, you know, it's nice to have hobbies. You know, one of my hobbies is become pipes at the OGC conference. Someone has become a good friend now. me like 15 pipes. He's like, here I used to work at a pipe shop. He's like, and now I'm like just in heaven trying all these different pipes and everything like that. Oh, yeah. It's awesome.

It's a great hobby. I love to smoke pipes, but it's a hobby. And it's not going to change the world. It's relaxing. Is it? Nicotine is proof that God loves this and wants us to be happy. Absolutely. But libertarianism is a hobby. that's all it is it's not going to manifest itself it's no different than being really into rc cars or way you be for you know putting the chips in bottles it's a harm i mean yeah well it's not harm uh it's it could be harmful but the it's just it's a way to hang out with with people. It's like Comic-Con. If you're, like, really into comic books or you, I mean,

I know Comic-Con has expanded, weights, movies, TV show, everything like that. You know, if you're into that kind of stuff, and you go there and be around like-minded people. But stop pretending you're going to change the world. Stop pretending you're, I mean, stop pretending you're going to change the world and go change your own life first.

Well, one of the reasons I stopped being libertarian. As I saw that, you know, 2007 and 2008, I can't remember when I stumbled on mold bug, but it was around that time. And I had read this Tom article is that I saw that there was no way for me to mandate everyone understand Liberty the same way I did without using force. and so libertarianism was pointless. And without the ideas that are shown in this article, and I strongly, strongly urge I wanted to, you know, just read it without our commentary and see how pressing it was.

Tom Woods is a genius. And I don't, you know, that term is overused in our time. But I legitimately believe Tom Woods is a genius. He sees things that others do not see. see and he shows people things that they otherwise would not have seen. But this article opened my eyes to the fact that it's those intermediate institutions that are the most important things in our lives. It's our circles of friends.

It's our churches. It's our neighborhoods. It's our civic associations. It's our small governments. Like if you want the government to be small, your city council seat costs $10,000. Ten guys can come up with $10,000. You just go without lot of age for a couple of years.

came up with a thousand bucks to make sure that your city council seat isn't run by a communist. It was just a house race, a house primary race, like Jamal Bowman and a Latimer, I think in New York City, where A-PAC put a thumb on the scale pretty hard. It costs tens of millions of dollars. Nothing you can do is going to change that as normal human being.

But you can act in that local sphere. You can support. the church and the rotary club and the bowling league and all these intermediate institutions that stand between you and the ever hungry maw of the communist leviathan and if you don't understand that it's more important that that your local municipality be able to pass a law that says no pornographic graphic billboards than it is for the individual right of some weirdo who own strip clubs to be able to want to promote his billboards, then I'm sorry, you just lost the plot. You're not capable of being free. Simple as. Simple as that.

All right. Let's get out of here. It's getting a little late for me. I know still a little bit. Yeah. Still may be a little early for you. just a couple things real quick sure thank you so much for

entertaining this particular whim of mine Pete I appreciate it very much and that's a great article I want to say it's a great article and knowing Tom you know knowing Tom and reading this as like I mean as soon as I read it I'm like yeah that's Tom yeah it's great

but again I want to reiterate like Tom Woods is a hero of both persons for me and just generally. Read this without our commentary. I'm sure there'll be a link in the description. Read it twice. And finally, one thing Tom got wrong.

And understand that our enemies, Madeline Albright's, the Bill Clinton's, the George Bushes, the Karl Rove's, whoever you want to name, they aren't just minorly disagreeing with you. This isn't a disdeme. dispute about a 17% tax rate versus 27% tax rate. These people want you to die. They want to tear down your churches.

They want your children to be killed in a useless war and the children survive that useless war. They want to turn trans. And they want to import tens of millions of foreigners to destroy your patron money. They want to tear down every statute that's ever been erected. They want to rename every street or every part. And they don't do it because, oh, they have a disagreement. They do it because they're evil. They're positively on team Satan. And every time you go to battle with these folks, keep that in the back of your mind.

Like these folks aren't just Roberta Kaplan just isn't somebody that, well, I might have minor disagreement. No, she's on team Satan. She hates everything good in the world. And then go to proceed accordingly, you know, with that knowledge. Cato with David Boaz, right? Why are all these handsome, slim young men with clean-shaven faces working at Cato? Well, yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's individual liberty.

Freedom and, you know, the freedom to escape responsibly. and, you know, make the world the worst place for everyone else. But as long as you're doing okay, as long as you're having your fun, then, you know, what I do shouldn't affect you. Well, it does. It does, and it has to stop. And it's going to stop one way or another. That's why I don't think people understand it.

It's going to stop. The only question is, is, are you going to like the way it stops? Because, when things, historically, when things like, when things get like this, the way they're stopped, well, your precious individual liberties are going to mean shit when that happens. And no one's going to care. No one's going to care. I'm going to die a moderate. All right. I'll, as always, I will link to your telegram chat and everything.

And, yeah, until I guess we'll talk on the next thought ofram syndicate. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you very much. And, you know, if you're listening, like don't skip anything Pete's producing because it's all gold. Whether it's the readings or the individual shows or specials or whatever Pete's doing, please. both support materially, but also just listen because you've been lied to

by almost everyone for your entire life. And Pete Kununez is that rarest of things. Diogenes put it this way, you know, over 2,000 years ago. He was trying to find out on his man.

And I'm very proud that Pete's my friend because Pete is that honest man. So listen to everything he says, not because he's a genius or because he's the perfect paragon of virtue or anything of that, but because Pete is an honest man. And he will bring you people

that tell you the truth as best they know how. Whether that's me or Thomas 777 or Charles Padil or Jose Nino or whoever else Tom has on a guest or Pete has on it as a guest I guarantee you Pete has never had on a guest that will lie to you and if I thought I'm lying I would

I would call them out and that's the most precious thing you can have so please you know support Pete but also listen to what he has to say because he's doing his best to tell you the truth and there are very very very few people in the world today who are trying to do that

I give Pete money not because he's my friend and I, but because he's an honest man. And this matters to me very, very much. I risked everything to do what I do. And I'm here on this show because Pete Canones is an honest man. So please give it a listen. Throw Pete some support. If everyone will listen to this give Pete five bucks a month,

it would make all the difference in the world. I appreciate that. Thank you. And until the next time, take care of yourself, right? My best to you and your family. Thank you, man.