The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1083: Our 'Unpresidented' Times w/ The Prudentialist

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:01 Hey, how's the world looking to you? Unpresented. I had to get that crappy joke out of the way. Our friends from the Art of Darkness podcast says, you should really use that. And I thought it was too good not to use. Although it is fun to come back to the show. This is the first time I think you and I are recording after meeting in person
Starting point is 00:03:21 from the old Glory Club conference. So it's always great to put faces to the names, shake hands and all that, which is awesome. That was a great event. It was a great event. Just the right amount of people and just to write people. Amen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So, yeah. We haven't talked since then. And I mean, some stuff has happened since then. I mean, do we even, you realize the debate was like three weeks ago? Isn't it, I was about to say, isn't it crazy that the debate is, is three weeks ago? but everything has been thrown out of whack since, what was it, yesterday at 1246 p.m. Central with that announcement. I mean, and this is just all in America, right?
Starting point is 00:04:08 This isn't even talking about foreign affairs or foreign elections, all other stuff to touch on about that, I suppose, if you want to. But if, you know, if there was ever the joke about America being the main character, you know, this would be the time to make it just because all eyes are on the... clown show of our democracy. Well, I mean, let's start with, I mean, the debate's the debate. The only thing that really came out of that debate was that people on the left, much like, you know what I thought of when people were like, holy crap, people on the left were like, holy crap, he's actually,
Starting point is 00:04:48 he's actually, you know, gone. His mind is gone. It reminded me of the people during the written house trial who were like, you mean he didn't kill Bolton. black people? And that's literally how, that's how out of touch these people are. But then you come forward and all this trumps up on charges and they're getting dismissed all over the place. And then two Saturdays ago happens. And what was, what was your reaction to that? Were you, did you see it in real time? Or, I mean, did you find out about it pretty quickly? or was it like much later?
Starting point is 00:05:28 I found out about it pretty quickly. I was, I usually, it was really funny because I uninstalled Twitter on my phone on the weekends just sort of as a way to have some sort of break and to sort of recalibrate my mind, both for church and just to sort of keep myself sane. And as soon as I sit down for dinner, it was myself and a few other guys from my parish. And then it was like, oh, by the way, Trump got shot. And this was maybe 10 minutes right afterwards or maybe even shorter than that. It was just absolutely mind-blowing to quickly reinstall the app and check my phone,
Starting point is 00:06:01 check telegram, check everything. And I had, you know, just to see the photos was, it was a really big, like, thank God moment. Because it was right before the convention. And there was no announcement for a successor. This was before the J.D. Vance announcement or the nomination for vice president. And so it was a huge sigh of relief that he had survived, but also at the same time, as I wrote for the old glory club like this was sort of the natural conclusion now i know that since that event and i know that the director of the secret service isn't it funny that america has an ss but
Starting point is 00:06:37 it's just like this like weak joking imitation of what the other type was but anyway so just to see her get roasted over the coals today at congress and to see this very strange bizarre bipartisan uh you know condemnation saying that she should resign and then at the same time You have the Heritage Foundation of all people who are doing their parallel investigation. And I mean, we're talking phone records. We're talking geolocational tracking and saying that this guy's, you know, towards where the FBI is. And as, I mean, we saw this with the Yuvalde shooter and other shooting events in America, wherein there seems to be a propensity of mentally deranged people who are groomed or in contact or outright in discussion with former
Starting point is 00:07:25 or active members of American law enforcement or intelligence communities who then conduct these things. Because the Yuvalde one's a great example. I think it was with the Buffalo shooter as well in New York, where it was just, why are these people on a Discord server with former FBI agents? And there's no way in hell you're affording that kind of gear equipment and ammunition part-time at Owendies where you live. I'm sorry, it's just not the case.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So I don't think we're ever going to know the truth out of this one. And to see such a quick bipartisan consensus, bipartisanship just means that the American people get spit-rested from both ends by both parties. And I don't expect we'll get the full answer to it, which is really unfortunate because I'm really quick not to jump into sometimes the most crazy, I don't want to say conspiratorial because so many conspiracies happen all the time in this country. But I don't think it was faked in any way, shape, or form. But it does to me appear that we're never going to know the full answer to this. that as with most presidential assassination attempts or anything really against Trump. Like every time that we try and find something out that's going against him, it's usually high levels of coordination between, you know, intelligence officials, law enforcement, the judiciary.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I mean, the court cases against Trump, even the ones that have been dismissed. I mean, you see that these people were working at the DOJ before then taking a lower paying job in New York to pursue these cases against him. like it's all the more coordination and we have to accept that the zeitgeist or what is considered socially agreeable or the you know morally correct position for a lot of normies is that yeah that's what you do to go after existential threats or whatever in the same way that it doesn't matter that Biden doesn't have any he's non-composmentis right like no one cares because you were told not to care we can go back to 2020 and there's a i point this out all the time there's a great
Starting point is 00:09:18 headline from the Atlantic and it's literally titled Joe Biden stay alive we just need your corporeal form to cross the finish line to beat Donald Trump like we knew everyone knew and we're acting like this is a surprise which of course is an indication of a really great media campaign this debate was super early it was a great time to illustrate that he's not all there and that we kind of witnessed a well-executed you know palace coup in real time and I can't even call it a coup. Well, I mean, you can and you should. But, you know, the most popular president of all time getting more votes than Barack Obama ever did and more votes than Donald Trump than reelection, what, 81, 82 million votes, right? And all of a sudden, Dr. Jill Biden,
Starting point is 00:10:04 who, you know, told the Marine Corps band to come up with her own entrance theme or that Hunter Biden was basically the real chiefest staff of his administration, they're not going to have power. And here we are today where Kamala Harris has, I think I just saw right before we decided to record, she just secured the number of delegates to be the Democratic nominee. So I guess that will, we'll see in a couple of weeks in August when the convention, if something does happen. But it seems to be that they're with her. You know, I'm with her 2.0.
Starting point is 00:10:35 We're going to get another unlikable hag and a pantsuit to run for president. Well, I was going to say about the whole conspiracy theory thing is, the old glory club is, you know, we're taking the route of the narrative and leaving the conspiracy theories behind. But the idea that the FBI grooms and arms sees people, this is not a conspiracy theory at all, a terrible person wrote a great book. Trevor Aronson wrote a great book, a terrible person called the Terror Factory, where he just goes through case by case of them radicalizing and arming and then seeking to stop them so that they basically, you know, it's like, well, look, you know, we, you need us.
Starting point is 00:11:24 You need the FBI. I call Trevor Aaron and said a terrible person because at the end of the book, he concludes that why were they concentrating on these Middle Easterners, these kids were Middle Eastern and trying to radically, them when it's actually white people who are the real threat for terrorism in the United States. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design. They move you. Even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range for Mentor, Leon, and Teramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2000 euro, search Cooper and discover our latest offer.
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Starting point is 00:13:42 naming them, but look like they're backing Trump. I mean, what's your impression of that? I think that it's important for when we talk about, say, elites or even elite theory in general, it's always important to remind ourselves that it's not this monolithic entity. You can say the regime, but the regime constitutes multiple parts of various agencies, bureaucracies, power brokers, officials, lobbies, etc. And that always needs to be put in the back, well, really in the forefront of your mind when trying to do this kind of analysis. So, I mean, yes, there is a Silicon Valley coalition.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm very much reminded of sort of what San Francis said. He sort of wanted this coastal conservative intelligentsia with what he would call, you know, middle American radicals or revolutionaries, Mars, right? And so I think you're witnessing that with this sort of Silicon Valley coalition. Elon Musk has endorsed Donald Trump right after the assassination attempt. He has also said he's going to donate $45 million a month, which is nothing to bulk yet. And of course, countless others, including Andriason and Horowitz, you know, Mark Andriason's done a lot of posting about, you know, the James Burnham books as well.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But, I mean, that's also a huge turnaround considering in 2016, he was pro-Hillary Clinton on the basis of immigration reduction or, you know, the position that Trump had on immigration. And granted, Trump's vice president was a never-trumper. Yeah. And so you're seeing this huge shift. And I mean, also, yeah, J.D. Vance has a background working in venture capital.
Starting point is 00:15:23 He's worked with a Teal-affiliated organization. He has very close to the Patrick Deneene, Adrian Vermeel, post-liberal type. So you're witnessing sort of this middle American energy around Trump that's called the personality with. with very well-connected intelligentsia and wealthy people. These two gentlemen are communists, and I think it certainly does blind their analysis, but there was this essay wrote,
Starting point is 00:15:55 they wrote called Californian ideology. And you can, it was written by Richard Barnbrook and Andy Cameron, there are these English media theorists. And they're trying to critique what they call neoliberalism at the time. But the argument is that these Silicon Valley wealthy power broker types and tech have this sort of lazi fair position towards the market and let me make money. But I'm going to run back to the state if I'm ever being challenged by the outside. Basically, I want to do my job. I want to be left alone.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But if you prevent me from being left alone, I will essentially do everything in my power. to make sure you can never touch me again and we're going to take over the net we're going to be wealthy we're going to fight against european style uh bureaucracy and regulation and we're going to do everything that we can to be you know as powerful as possible now and they even has some interesting parts in there where they talk about like a slave class and everything and this is 1995 and they're talking about black and brown bodies like very lefty stuff but then you look at like h1b visas and tech and how that's essentially a sort of a slave class that they can keep in port And a Twitter account, US tech workers is someone, everyone should follow for lobbying against that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:15 But so to see these guys sort of realize that they have hopes and dreams or they have these projects and they want to be doing their thing and they want to make their money, but also that they are constantly at war with their own government. And they cannot do the things that they want to do under this administration at all. I mean, Elon Musk is a great example. I mean, he has contracts with the Department of Defense. Starlink is currently active for the benefit of Ukraine in this current war with Russia. Legally speaking, per our own statutes, he is not allowed to be hiring non-citizens, refugees, and asylum seekers. But earlier this year, why is the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice going after
Starting point is 00:17:56 him for not hiring those exact same people? So I'm not surprised that, you know, if you're going to fuck with me, I'm going to fuck with you back. And clearly we're witnessing that sort of coalition come out now. Is that going to, you know, help, I mean, if that money goes towards, I'm speculating, which I hate to do, but I hope that that money goes towards the legal dream team, you know, I know that love them or hate him. Like Bronze Age Pervert made this point several months ago, he says, you know what happened to like the legal guys at the 2000 Florida election who stopped the count and everything?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Like you need, you're going to need that in every election going forward in America until there is substantial reform and how we, you know, do ballot harvesting and such. So I'm cautiously optimistic, but it is good to see that there is a counter elite or an elite faction that is dissatisfied with the current state of American progressivism to throw their hat in the ring. Pst, did you know, those Black Friday deals everyone's talking about? They're right here at Beacon South Quarter That designer's sofa you've been wanting It's in Seoul, Boe Concept and Rosh Bubaois The Dream Kitchen
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Starting point is 00:20:42 is there other than rampant fraud, which Thomas is saying they just can't go to the well twice on this? And I don't think that, I think it's interesting that they would swap out, that they would get rid of Biden for for Harris, if they were planning on a repeat of 2020. Do you see any way that she can beat Trump if this is a straight-up election? Well, I think that as with a lot of elections, it's going to come down to those swing states. I mean, we know what are safe blue states. We know what are safe red states. It's going to come down to places like Michigan, like Pennsylvania, Nevada, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:21:34 In Arizona, the same states that have had, we saw in 2020 with insane laws that were put in place without congressional or legislative authority in order to create the circumstances to do so. So the whole manipulation of procedural outcomes to get a desired result. And now we've witnessed with Michigan at least that there has been the return of unsupervised ballot dropboxes. Arizona, however, has seen a more pleasant change of events where I believe the federal courts, you know, upheld a lawsuit by some conservative group saying that you actually need proof of citizenship to vote, which is so it's so sad to say that out loud when you know, you should be a citizen to vote. But again, we live in clown world. So I don't know if it's going to be cheating or, I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:22 if they're going to be able to pull off the same thing they did in 2020. But I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a similar thing happen in the 2022 midterms play out here in 24 because we saw that sort of insider scoop I think it was in the Atlantic or the new republic where they were talking to chris lisavita and the other sort of campaign strategist for trump and they're talking about you know prioritizing Latino and black voters they're calling white women karen's you know the same demographics that trump lost in 2020 and it's just like i hope that you're throwing this guy off on a cold trail or a red herring because if you're going to go with that strategy, you're throwing the election to the enemy because you would have to
Starting point is 00:23:07 increase the Hispanic vote by over 14% up a decrease in one to two percent of the white vote for Donald Trump's like campaign, which I don't see happening. I don't realistically see it. Now, this also relies on the fact that Trump is kind of alone in this instance. I mean, I think that the assassination attempt, you know, the unity argument he was making, I think, unify the GOP but i mean it's not like uh Mitch McConnell is going to be all in on Trump and Vance he hates these guys so i mean he's going to be fighting his own party elites he's going to be fighting against all these other legal apparatchiks that want him off the ballot or want him dead or want him in prison or uh want to make sure that some morbidly obese black
Starting point is 00:23:54 woman counts 25 000 extra votes that all say Kamala harris on them time and time again so i I'm cautiously optimistic that maybe they can't repeat it, but I've been hurt before, so I kind of just expect it. That makes sense. Tell me what you know about Project 2025. Oh, boy. Well, full disclosure, I did send my resume there for the audience listening, but the 2025 presidential transition project backed by the Heritage Foundation has individuals like John McEntee in there who used to work in the Trump administration is sort of a handbook and guidebook of policy and proposals that would, if elected, this would be our way of radically transforming the federal government as we know it. It is a 905 plus page PDF document that you can go look up and it has a little bit of everything ranging from education policy to the federal bureaucracy to issues regarding abortion and
Starting point is 00:24:55 other sort of issues in that in that realm so I mean you know a lot prior until all this news took over it was sort of the main talking point that lefties were using progressive activists Democrats everything that you know they were treating this as if all of a sudden you know the White House was going to to turn into the Reichstag or something is just this absolutely crazy idea that we were going to get anything resembling 1930s Germany but that's the progressive civic religion anyway. There are some parts of it that I like. There are some parts of it. I could definitely live without in terms of how they're talking about education funding or how they want to maintain certain parts of the federal bureaucracy when obviously you could just scrap it. Other parts like Schedule F employees and being able to fire at will anyone who doesn't agree with the president or his appointed cabinet secretaries. I mean, that stuff is great.
Starting point is 00:25:55 But I imagine that there's going to be a lot of other competing transitional campaign lists or staffing lists. Even if Trump has publicly disavowed it, which I'm not surprised he has with good reason. I think Trump has been trying to walk a very fine line with out sounding like too hard of a far right extremist character, but also the same time. He's also working really hard not to throw red meat to the Dems when it comes to issues like a portion. you know, I know that there's been a lot of, I don't even want to say normie. They're just lefties. They're just leftist evangelical types that are making their abortion issue. The hill to die on, despite the fact that Trump has done more for the pro-life cause than any president in my lifetime or yours.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And so I think that Project 2025 is going to be something that regardless of Trump is disavowed it or not, he will be using that staffing list and those names being picked to hire his people because I think I had this discussion with him over a year ago, but I talked to Jeremy Carl over the Claremont Institute. He's also the writer of the book of the Unprotected Class, how anti-white racism is tearing America apart. It's a pretty good book. And he had said, you know, America for right-wingers says that we have a policy wonk problem. The people that talk about the same issues that you and I do, Pete, are also being talked about by like the worst people imaginable over like the Cato Institute or the Heritage Foundation, these kind of like wet socks of these tweed jacket intellectuals.
Starting point is 00:27:21 So he's just like, you got to throw your hat in the ring and write some papers or something. But I think Project 2025 is a good start, but we could do better. Yeah, I said on a on a spaces the other day, I don't know. It was the first space I ever actually hosted for myself. And one of the things I said when it comes to staffing and what the right does, does compared to the left is looking for exactly what I say, yeah. I said the left gets their radicals elected to office. The right cancels theirs. That's a very good point. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing to me that the right will just look at somebody like they run, who's that who's that guy that
Starting point is 00:28:17 Van Jones, who was part of Obama's cabinet. And people are just like, they just feel very comfortable doing that. But, you know, appointing somebody, I won't even name one of our guys to call them out, but to like the Trump cat, to a Trump cabinet. It's like that just seems,
Starting point is 00:28:38 you're not, you're not even going to have to worry about push back from the left. The right's going to push back on that. And I mean, I just don't know. I don't know how you go forward if you're, you know, the people who are the radical thinkers who have a tendency to be most, to see things that other people don't see that I don't know how that, how you can, how you survive when they're, when you're putting moderates and Cato types up against people who, you know, graduated, graduated Harvard and came out, you know, pure Marxists. Yeah, with Normie cons like these, who needs lip-tards, right? Like, we always have this.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And it was funny, too, because Trump had mentioned this on a campaign trail. I don't know if it was in 2020 or since he's been campaigning again for this election. But he had said, you know, it's always the conservative Supreme Court justices that never actually vote with their conservative ideals because they never want to look like they're, you know, following the president's wishes. whereas every progressive or lefty judge that gets appointed to any judicial position, not just the Supreme Court, knows that their job is to advance the progressive agenda. And, you know, again, it goes back to the perennial problem that one side wants to win and that one side wants to play by these rules that clearly we have not been following for
Starting point is 00:30:02 decades, if not well over a century at this point. And that's always going to be the problem until I think you just have someone who is going to strongman and say, like, you're going to either do this or you're going to get fired, especially when it comes to the bureaucracy. But I tell people all the time, I said, if you want the most honest five minutes of American government, and it's mind-blowing that this honesty kind of mask-off moment dropped, it came from a total cuck of a U.S. senator,
Starting point is 00:30:30 but it came from Ben Sasse of Nebraska. This was during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings. And he had said that, you know, the reason why these Supreme Court hearings are always so politicized is because the Supreme Court is the politics of last resort for the American people. any issue there is in the country, cultural, political policy, whatever. And that's because Congress has abdicated its responsibility. It writes shell pieces of legislation, these huge omnibus packages
Starting point is 00:30:55 that don't actually address the issues that the American people need because they're all bought off, or they all got their APEC guys, Thomas Massey likes to tell us. And so the only place that you can really have any redress of grievances is the American legal institutions. And so that means the Supreme Court becomes the final say of any cultural war issue in America. And so despite the fact that Amy Coney Barrett and sometimes Justice Gorsuch and Kavanaugh have been somewhat disappointing in some of their votes, I have been pleasantly surprised to see that for the first time, as long as I've been alive, you know, that there has been a move in rightward directions under the Supreme Court. It almost feels like I have to pinch myself. Like, there's
Starting point is 00:31:38 no way that these sort of decisions are coming out of the woodwork, but it does give you a taste that something is possible to go in the other direction. Those people who love going out shopping for Black Friday deals, they're mad, aren't they? Like, proper mad. Brenda wants a television and she's prepared to fight for it, if you ask me. It's the fastest way to a meltdown. Me, I just prepare the fastest way to get stuff, and it doesn't get faster than Appliances Delivered.e.
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Starting point is 00:33:25 Standard Pressing applies after 12 months, further terms apply. Well, Kamala, do you think that she is the chosen one because they've just basically given up on this one and they're going to look forward to the midterms in 2028? Or do you think that they just know that if they kick out a quote unquote woman of color that their base could come down? You know, the radicals on their base could just absolutely destroy them or a little column A and a little column B? I think a little column A, little column B for sure. I think that Trump really did.
Starting point is 00:34:06 want to keep Biden on there. I know that recent reports I saw today said that they were planning that Biden was not going to be the nominee as early as May. They were war gaming for that. And of course, there's that leaked footage from the golf course where Trump is like, she's so fucking bad. And I mean, it's entertaining to watch
Starting point is 00:34:22 him just be kind of uncouth for a moment. But, you know, Kamala Harris, I think, does give a different breath and a different light to this election just because she is the kind of a character that I think white childless millennial women and anyone who watches like, you know, shows like Dr. Drew or whatever are going to be all excited to vote for because this, you know, I don't agree with him on everything, but Corey Mahler is absolutely right when he says that, you know, your, boomers just argue with TV and you can't, you can't turn that, you know, you can't deal with the television. You can't win that argument. And so when you've got people that are ready to support this obvious joke, of a character who went to Howard University, right?
Starting point is 00:35:09 That's where she got her start. It slept her way up up the ranks. I mean, you know, I'm sure that she is ready to take a shot to the face for this country just in a totally different way and that it will breathe a new life into this election in ways I don't know we have for sure. I mean, already there's been millions of dollars raised for her. There has been multiple endorsements from virtually every Democratic governor. in the United States.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And she does have, and I know it's not her making the decisions, obviously, but there are people in that circle that are ready to make decisions to make it work, whether it be, everyone's already made the assumption in the media that there's going to be a white guy picked. It will be a white male or a male period. And some say, oh, it'll be Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, who would not be a white male, it would be a Jewish ticket. So you'd have this Indian Jamaican woman who's not really,
Starting point is 00:36:06 black under Tariq Nishid's foundation of black Americans definition alongside this Jewish governor of Pennsylvania or maybe you get Gretchen Whitmer and maybe you get someone that we just don't know but I mean I think that they've thought about how they can strategize to make this winnable because I don't think if everything was if they were resigned to do it I don't think that they would be if they were resigned they would have just kept Biden on the ticket and they would have witnessed the the donors and these power brokers, you know, just be upset and kind of take their toys and go home and accept Trump. I do see, however, and I said this for, I've said this for a while now
Starting point is 00:36:48 on Twitter, but let's not forget how Camel Harris got on the ticket. Camel Harris got on Joe Biden's ticket in 2020 because Joe Biden needed to win the South Carolina Democratic primary in 2020, because if he didn't, that was the end of his campaign. And he made a bargain with Jim Clyburn the most powerful black Democrat, the House Black Caucus, and arguably just one of the most powerful black power brokers in America, to guarantee the votes and to get the concession that a woman of color would be on the vice presidential nominee for Biden's campaign in 2020. So that threw Amy Klobuchar and all the white ladies out the window.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And so what did we get? We got this recently put on, I think she was appointed by the governor, you know, Senator from California, Camilla Harris, to do so. And that's where we're at. A woman who never pulled above 2%, her campaign ended in 2019, very early on, after being destroyed by Tulsi Gabbard, of all people, on criminal justice issues, which, again, that's, I hope Trump doesn't go after her for that,
Starting point is 00:37:52 but I'm ready to be disappointed again. So I think that what we're going to witness is just a very energetic, you know, multiculturalism defeats, you know, this. white grievance politics of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. I think that that's how they're going to to frame it. And you already saw it in her little campaign copy. And I don't know if it's going to be the permanent copy, but you have this Obama-esque style imagery of her standing there kind of smiling. And it's got the sort of, it screams so African-coded, like these Kwanza colors, like, for the people. So you have this already sort of, you know, African-style social, democratic
Starting point is 00:38:30 revolutionary, you know, person versus Trump and the rest of them. And I, and for you and I notice this stuff. And we just pick it up like it's nobody's business. But I mean, anyone, normally you'll call you a racist if you pointed out, despite the fact like, no, this is clearly like African levels of democracy we're experiencing right now. So Joe Biden, quote unquote, drops out, quote, unquote, drops out quote, quote of the of this with a tweet what happened to the days of lbj going out there and giving a 40-minute speech about why he can't can't seek the nomination again in 1968 is it just is it because he can't go out there and give that speech is it because that's just social media has become the town
Starting point is 00:39:31 square or is it just that's passe? You just don't get, you don't have to give a speech like that anymore. It just, I don't think, you know, someone who's as old as I am, it's, to me, it's like where it's clown shoes. It's, it's banana republic stuff that he doesn't go out there and just announce it and doesn't give a speech, which leads me to believe he's either dead or in a coma. I don't want to go into conspiracy theories. it just doesn't make any...
Starting point is 00:40:03 Apparently, he called into a show today, and people are saying it was recorded because Camilla actually said, oh, it's good if you record something like that. I mean, could we get any worse at this point? I mean, I'm sure we could, but I mean, what does worse even look like at this point?
Starting point is 00:40:26 I was about to say, maybe you don't want to have that monkey's paw curl up with your fingers. Let's just say that because I mean, it totally could. So, yeah, they, they, Biden was supposed to call in in, in Vermont, you know, we're watching your kid. We're watching you kid, which sounded exactly the same. And I mean, I don't blame people for assuming that this was AI generated or anything like that. Like there are some, I, I'm not a big proponent of the whole quote unquote AI art question.
Starting point is 00:40:56 But I mean, when people can make these little two to three minute bops where you can make these funny little songs about. you know taking a shit on the company time i'm not surprised because i mean the the tools are out there where you can create some incredible stuff i mean we just saw one today that was made as a meme where you know joe biden's face is deep faked and voice is done where he says like fuck you i'm out like for saying that my i have brain worms or my brains for applesau or whatever so and she said recording as she's there in wilmington delo uh vermont to go out of her way and say these things or Wilmington, Delaware, one of the two. And so it doesn't, I think that also Joe Biden is not in a position to do so.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I mean, we got confirmation right after the debate that Joe Biden sundowns around like four or five o'clock in the afternoon. And that, you know, he goes to bed earlier. He doesn't do any nighttime things. He's not capable of being president. Whether or not he is medically incapacitated. I know that there was that tweet on the 17th that said he was sick. and then there's these reports from Charlie Kirk and others that are saying like, oh, Air Force One was like hurriedly rushed back from Nevada at very quick speeds for medical attention,
Starting point is 00:42:11 but I don't have any verification of that. So things can get worse, but I mean, also we don't have the politicians or the quality of men or sorry to break it to the sort of elite human capital bros out there, but we don't even have the human capital of the 1968 at all. like can you think of one Democratic politician today that has the intelligence or the character or the political independence to talk like Daniel Patrick and Moynihan did you can't because no senator who's a Democrat would dare like of a republic I can't think of a Republican I can't you know you can't even get a Jack Kemp type from 30 years ago for God's sake and I mean so yeah let's not kid ourselves so I I him giving an address to the country I just don't Maybe he will in the coming days, but I imagine it'll be highly touched up or edited. Maybe it won't even be live. But the real clear takeaway from me was is that when the tweet came out with a clearly not freshly signed signature of Joe Biden that did not use the official presidential letterhead or seal, clearly this was not him.
Starting point is 00:43:22 maybe that the intern, whoever does the White House tweets is the one told to do it. Because it just came out. And then it caught all the staffers and the spokespeople by surprise. And here we are. So I'm not surprised that he can't go up like JFK and do it. We just saw how it wasn't the debate. I mean, that debate was designed as beneficial as possible
Starting point is 00:43:46 for Joe Biden to do well. And he could not deliver. So I'm not surprised at all that he can't do that. It's not even like the medical, like let's, can we just pause for a moment? Think about how crazy this administration has been. We had the, the fake sort of like oval office like soundstage and sort of, you know, green screened background where he would do all these discussions during his like COVID talks and all these other addresses to the nation in like 2021 and 2022. And then, you know, or him standing there,
Starting point is 00:44:20 menacingly with like the black and red lighting with the Marines. He talks about magist extremists and using the state to crush his enemies or the winter of death and despair and destruction during COVID if they didn't get boosted and all of the, you know, pomp and circumstance about him getting a shot in the arm and God knows what was in those things. So it's just like this is the, if there was ever a time to say like, welcome to the desert of the real, this has been the most you know, hyperstitious, fake, gay, retarded media machine that we've ever seen
Starting point is 00:44:52 ever. I mean, I don't even think that CNN could ever blow Obama as hard as they have to keep Joe Biden up and looking professional. I mean, everything from the stutter to saying that, you know, he's overcome bullies to make it sound like Trump's this big meany head or whatever. And it's just like, no one buys this shit, except the most diehard partisans. Like, I mean, here we are talking about everything that's just taken place in the last, what, three weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And for everyone else who doesn't care, it's like, well, I've got a lot going on, and it's a Monday, and I've got to go to work. Functionally, we have no commander-in-chief of the armed forces. According to the Whitehouse.gov, a lot of executive authority has been delegated to the Secretary of Treasury and the Secretary of Defense. And just earlier this year, back in what February of 2024, we had our civilian overhead of our defense apparatus, Lloyd Austin, go missing for like two weeks for prostate cancer treatment or bladder issues. And no one really knew who was in charge of the entire defense department. And there was a huge collateral fuck up in the chain of command. So I mean, it's just absolutely insane to expect anything out of this other than a continuation of the clown show that we have and this cackling hyena of a literal, well, in order to get ahead in life, I got a give head in order to succeed, be the acting president of the United States or at least have the team on there. And I mean, like the real silver lining of this has been the full mask off moment where virtually every, you know, Politico top.
Starting point is 00:46:31 talking head type has been said, well, you're not really electing a president. You're electing a team. We need our Ann Apple bombs and we need our Samantha powers in the world in order to keep doing what we're doing for the sake of democracy and the sake of America or whatever. And it's just like, thank God for honesty, you know, even if you're being like the most evil people I can think of at the moment. But that's really the silver lining out of all of this is that it's sort of all out in the air and either most people don't care or like so many people on the left, they just don't have object permanence. If Joe Biden can't be seen, he's not president. Hops and Wild. Wild and Hopps.
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Starting point is 00:48:30 Search Sports Extra. New Sports Extra customers only. Standard Pressing applies after 12 months for the terms apply. Well, let's, it's interesting. I think Dave Smith made the, had a tweet yesterday saying, so for the next five months, we have a president who's not fit to run for president. But let's switch up. Let's go to, what do you think happens if Trump gets elected, January 21st, I guess, let's call it January 21st. What does he do with Ukraine? What is his attitude to,
Starting point is 00:49:05 Ukraine and the NATO countries and NATO itself. We know NATO really doesn't exist anymore, but you know, what we'll call NATO for all sense and purposes? Well, you know, he said that he would end the war relatively quickly. And I'd imagine the way he would probably do that is just tell Zelensky, I'm not giving you any more money. Whether he does that or not, I don't know. But I know having J.D. Vance on the ticket also illustrates a very similar congruent position, I think, that Trump and his first term had was that America has been always the main financier of NATO, and it's either put up or shut up when it comes to your 2% of GDP per defense spending. And if anything, this war in Ukraine has significantly weakened and depleted a lot of militaries,
Starting point is 00:50:00 including our own for ammunition and being able to keep their own militaries afloat. You know, throughout this conflict in Russia and Ukraine, there's been reports about, oh, like the German Bundesphere is actually like really not equipped and would not have enough ammunition to last a full-on peer-to-peer conflict with another country if it came to it. And America is desperately trying to reshore here in America as well with regards to our defense industry and semiconductor manufacturing and the like. I imagine you'll see a lot more of that continue, but Trump alongside J.D. Vance will probably say something along the lines of, okay, you really've got to start paying your own money here. We're going to try and negotiate a settlement with Zelensky and Vladimir Putin.
Starting point is 00:50:42 We are not going to do what we have been doing, which has been poking the bear. And he'll, of course, be called a Russian sympathizer. We'll see some Russia gate shit like that happen again. But I think that's what will happen. I mean, a lot of the people I do like, and sort of the international relations sphere who aren't some are liberals some are constructivists and some are realists but a lot of them have kind of come to the conclusion that the discussion of quote unquote european defense autonomy will be back on the table a lot of european powers i think france especially will be pushing for some kind of well we do need to up our defenses because clearly uh nato under this administration is not going to be as you know prioritized or america's not
Starting point is 00:51:24 going to fund us forever. I think we'll see a return to what we saw in, you know, Trump 45's first-term administration with that respect. You mentioned Russiagate there. What does he do to prevent that? I really don't know, in part because I don't think that Trump had any good counter to it outside of just letting the facts come out. I mean, yes, did Russia do things in the 20, election and probably didn't 2020 yeah do we know that there are parts of the Russian intelligence apparatus that probably do in get involved in American politics both in the far left and far right yes is it to any substantial degree that influences elections or Donald Trump's policy probably not I
Starting point is 00:52:14 but I mean also we saw it during all of Trump's first term you know the whole Mueller report the the Russia investigation stuff I mean yeah they bought a bunch of memes on Facebook and I know that you know some aspects of their agencies do speak a lot to like the South here in America, but I don't think it's ever gotten to a point where it, you know, affected where Trump is compromised in a meaningful way. I mean, when Trump was trying to go after Zelensky to begin with, I mean, that's what kicked off a lot of the, kicked off a whole impeachment hearing was trying to talk about corruption and Joe Biden and putting this obvious actor, rat character in the hot seat in front of national
Starting point is 00:52:50 television for trying to address these issues and get to the bottom of them. I think the way that he counters that, however, is that he's going to have a lot of other fires to put out. And I think also that there will be a lot of strategic tripwires put in place by the outgoing administration powers that be. And a lot of them don't really leave, because that's how bureaucracy works, but a lot of them will go to K Street or a lot of them will work for some lobbying group or re-registered foreign agents elsewhere. There will be a lot of bear traps, no pun intended, that Trump is going to have to carefully with his team not step in when it comes to foreign policy. Because let's look at the situation. You have the war in Russia and Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You have a heavily fractured and fragile supply chain crisis that has been decades in the making. This is not just by COVID. I mean, this is a decades in the making problem. We sacrificed resilience for convenience. And in turn, we've made our national security. infrastructure is significantly weaker. And also you have what's going on in the Red Sea, Gaza, the Houthis, Iran. And then, of course, you have China and the issue over Taiwan and the Davidson window, the pivot to Asia that's really been kicked off by President Obama. It's been continued by two administrations plus the trade war.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And our ongoing relationship with, say, Australia, with Augustus, India, and then, of course, Japan. So I mean a lot lays on the table that things could easily go wrong. So I mean, I don't know if it's really so much Russia gate at this point, but it would just be how do you end a war that for the last two years and a half has been deemed, you know, this war against Slavic fascism, you know, and Russian imperialism to bring back, you know, old, the old Russian of the Tsarist empire, back down. Well, at the same time, how do you maintain a healthy relationship with your European? partners who are radically pro far more anti-Russian than you are while at the same time trying to give security guarantees and that's going to be a very fine line to walk because i don't think trump wants to just leave nato and we've already seen that congress passed laws that i think biden did sign to basically make it quote unquote illegal for the president to leave nato anyways
Starting point is 00:55:09 so i i think that you know he may he'll try and force a settlement of some kind but i i think that really, I don't, I just, I don't, I don't know. And I feel like it's so, such a cop out, but I think that it's better for me to say I don't know than to beat spouting off. The hostility of Trump and, you know, a lot of the Silicon Valley guys, too, are hostile to China. What do you think their approach is going to be? Is it just going to be to hammer them with tariffs, try to get manufacturing here going again, what's going to be their solution? I mean, obviously, it's not going to be a hot war.
Starting point is 00:55:58 So, yeah. Well, I think that you're going to have to do, if I were in these kind of questions are always fun because it's like, well, if I were in charge, right? But I think that the Silicon Valley types, they work with the Trump administration if it gets in, it's going to be, I think, three key things. One, the trade war is going to continue.
Starting point is 00:56:15 That's just a guarantee. there will be more economic protectionism to support American-based reshoring, especially with America's defense industry, and that includes semiconductor manufacturing. There are a lot of fab plants that are opening up across America. But the economic side also has to include just basic total destruction of DEI and all of these anti-white, anti-competency measures that this administration has put forth. When you have reports from McKinsey, you know, one of the largest consulting agencies in America saying our foreign partners from Korea and Japan
Starting point is 00:56:49 can't work with us because our corporate culture is so anti-male, so anti-competency that we can't get shit done because we just don't have the manpower and expertise. That has to get resolved. So your entire economic and corporate culture has to change and also at the same time you have to fight China. Two, you also have to look at this from a security perspective.
Starting point is 00:57:11 The two largest intellectual property thieves of American tech are China and Israel. And I mean, this is stuff that Papy canin was writing about back in 2004 that, you know, we give stuff to Israel, but then Israel passes it along to the Chinese or vice versa. And you're going to have to address that issue, and you're also going to have to go after spies.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And it's very funny because a lot of progressives will say, well, there's always white guys that are part of it or like, they'll buy it out. It was like, actually, no, almost all the major cases I've seen about corporate and military espionage or Asian guys and Chinese nationals or descendants of Chinese nationals. nationals and immigrants that join the Navy or join these universities on a visa and then steal stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:50 That also includes just, you know, expropriating and taking Chinese land out of America and kicking them out. That has to happen. And then three, I think that the third and the real biggest issue, of course, is just going to be aggressive. Well, it'll look aggressive to the Chinese, but I think it'll just be more aggressive, diplomatic and defense posturing in the South Pacific in general. I think that you're going to see a renewed emphasis on the quad. There'll be a greater emphasis that, you know, Japan obviously being a major partner, and they have a prime minister who is their former defense minister under the Abe government, who has done more military exercises that appear more aggressive,
Starting point is 00:58:34 that are flying in the face of their quote-unquote pacifist post-war constitution that we had some lady right for. Hops and Wild? Wild and Hopps. The dream team. They're back. in Disney's Zootropolis 2. Funny books.
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Starting point is 01:00:07 easily say, well, okay, great, but we want the Chinese there at the table as well when you talk to us. As a sort of an FU and his leverage. And I mean, people ask like, well, what about, uh, or maybe the Uyghurs will be used again as this like humanitarian argument but i always just try to remind myself well the wiger the zhang province is close to the walk-on corridor and it's where a lot of like Islamic groups and money and weapons were flowing through and turns out when you do throw people into prison camps it kind of stops terrorism and crime real quick doesn't it yeah i mean not to mention
Starting point is 01:00:38 wegers were seen in the summer of 2001 being trained in afghanistan by our cia and yeah i mean the whole Liger thing is a lot more complicated than people want to make it out to be. Let's finish on this one because this is, you know, J.D. Vance actually mentioned it and it got a lot of people upset. Iran. I mean, Trump, you know, Trump stopped the Iran, the Iran nuclear treaty. I think Biden and Biden resign it. I expect if Trump gets back in there. What are they going to do with Iran? I'm of the opinion, after the way I see they deal with Iran.
Starting point is 01:01:25 They kill Soleimani. Iran launches some rockets into an American base in Iraq. Trump literally says on TV, while they needed to save face. Israel kills a couple generals in Damascus, Iranian generals in Damascus. Iran sends drones towards it, drones towards. towards Israel, they landed the desert, and it comes out that, you know, that was for them to save face. I mean, is this all K-Fabe at this point? I mean, it's not K-Fabe to assassinate generals, but it just seems like this is this long cat-and-mouse thing where it's more about just threatening
Starting point is 01:02:05 them and making this sound like more than it is. I think there's a degree of that. However, we also need to consider the stakes are a little different from when Trump was in there versus now. Biden has tried this or his team has tried. We should say Biden in the royal context. Like the royal court of Biden and his bureaucracy and his, you know, managers are the ones doing these things. The Biden administration had tried to get the JCP away,
Starting point is 01:02:36 the Iran nuclear agreement backup on running. Clearly that has not happened. I did notice the old lovely, you know, phrase that I ran as two weeks or something. away from getting a nuclear weapon, you know, a phrase that we've heard them say for as long as you've been alive, Pete, you know, the threat or the concern that they're going to get a nuke. How true that is, hey, you know, only once, shame on me, right? But I think that it's important to consider probably what we will see as a return to the,
Starting point is 01:03:09 quote unquote, Abraham Accords or the on paper trying to get Sunni Muslim nations on board with sort of an agreement. with Israel, at least on diplomatic terms, and the cool relations off. Even this ongoing conflict in Gaza has not totally ruined the diplomatic ties that Israel has had with some of America's Arab partners in the region. Although, obviously, they're not going to be full Israel supporters for obvious reasons. They're not fans of Israel's existence. They're not fans of what Israel's doing in Gaza either,
Starting point is 01:03:44 but they also kind of know where their bread is buttered financially, and the relationship, the tense relationship that exists there in the region period, because what are we witnessing? Well, we are witnessing Iranian and Russian and Chinese tech get used by a bunch of, basically the government of Yemen, because the government of Yemen is technically an exile in Saudi Arabia, and the territory that they control, shooting at American maritime craft or Western or allied maritime craft, while the U.S. Navy tries to shoot it down. and the Chinese are watching
Starting point is 01:04:16 off the coast of Djibouti which is not too far from where we have a naval base in Shibouti so it's already an intelligence geopolitical nightmare waiting to happen and they're getting free intel as this all takes place I see that Trump being the more pro-Israeli you know in the traditional sense will probably try and to get a
Starting point is 01:04:38 sort of ceasefire or some sort of stop to the conflict I mean Trump has said on the campaign train trail and on interviews saying that like you need to get this war over with because Trump I think knows optics well enough to know that this war is not a good look for them to use some of that millennial coded language like the saying a good look bro you need to read read the room you've gotten every progressive in America to take that anti-Zionist position you have a lot of American politicians that don't want to you know do what we've always done with relationship to Israel and they're questioning why aren't we funding the way
Starting point is 01:05:14 that we are. I think that J.D. Vance has said in his interviews, in that interview in particular, where a lot of people said he wants to just like bomb Iran, you know, I think it was more along the lines of, well, we don't want Iran to be this huge power player in the region, which has been U.S. foreign policies forever, but at the same time, we don't want to go to war on Iran. I think it's sort of an important thing to consider. And for however much K-fabe as this may be, but when you have J.D. Vance, a guy who joined the Marines after 9-11, to have his entrant son. be America First by Merle Haggard, a well-known anti-Bush, anti-Iraq war song.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I think that we're going to see, and again, I'm ready to be disappointed, but I think we're going to see a much more restrained foreign policy out of this team. And I think that JD Vance being sort of seen and set up as this heir apparent to Trump with this more, I don't want to call it isolationist, but clearly a more American first-minded,
Starting point is 01:06:12 I don't want to send my white guys to die in pointless wars anymore. It's a good start, but that can change. And we don't know what's going to happen between now and in January of 2025. I do think that this administration and its intelligence apparatus will do a lot to make things difficult to de-escalate the situation, whether it be in China, whether it be in the Red Sea, whether it be in Gaza, whether it be in Ukraine. We watched the civil service fuck over Trump in 2016 throughout his administration. We watched the British people get betrayed by the home office after Brexit in 2016. I will not be surprised that on the world stage, something very similar happens for this incoming administration if Trump and Vance get into the White House.
Starting point is 01:07:01 All right. Let's wrap it up there. Remind people where they can find your stuff. Yeah, sure. Well, as always, Pete, it's always a pleasure to chat with you and to speak with you here. Absolutely. You guys can find me over on YouTube at The Prudentialist. I am at Mr. Prudentialist on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I cover politics, culture, current events, both over at the Old Glory Club Substack and in Pony Express Radio, but I also cover things on my own substack, theprudentialist.substack.com. I talked, I just wrote an article today, so this is 22nd when we recorded, and I wrote a lovely little piece about our little palace coup called, Do you have a letter for me, Mr. Biden?
Starting point is 01:07:39 And I've covered all sorts of other fun stuff. And hopefully, I don't know when this episode comes out, but I will hopefully have an article out inspired by our good friend, Mr. Jeff Diced, on linguistic corruption and internet lingo in our politics. So stay tuned for more great stuff. I'm trying to write more than I do live stream. But I also do the digital archipelago every Tuesday evening with my good friend, Gio. We cover media, current events, culture.
Starting point is 01:08:04 And sometimes I go fishing, and those are also on my channel. So as always, Pete, thanks for having me on. Of course, and this will come out tomorrow, so people look for that. All right. Thank you. Yeah, thanks.

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