The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1084: Biden, Kamala, and Silicon Valley Embracing Trump w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

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How are you doing? I'm doing very well, man. Uh, yeah, I'm going splendidly. Thank you for asking. Sure. Um, let's just jump right in. Um, I remember when I was a kid, I was told that, like, um, LBJ, when he decided he wasn't going to run for president. And again in 1968, he went out and gave a 40 minute speech talking about, you know, how the reasons why he wasn't going to run and that, um, that he was stepping aside.

Um, I guess now. You just like you do that with a tweet. What, what, what do you, what are your impressions of all that? Things became very bizarre in this country when Clinton took the oath of office. And I was just being a Clinton hater. Like take the out of the equation, take whatever kind of polemic I said, or Clinton out of it. Okay.

My earliest memories are around the time of Korean Airlines KAL being shot down. I mean, this was in America really wasn't the precipice of nuclear war potentially. Not because of that discrete event, but my memories of, my oldest memory is the president of Reagan. You know, he wasn't called the great communicator for nothing, like truly indexing with the American people. And yeah, you know, he talked about how this is a grave situation. You know, he pulled no punches about the implications for the Cold War. and that we've got to basically like brace himself at all times

the unthinkable one become think of all thinkable. Okay, fast forward about eight years. You know, George H.W. Bush, Bush 41, who I know it's not a loved person, but increasingly I think appears like a

historical giant compared to his successors. I mean, do you remember in the Gulf War, like when he issued the ultimatum to Saddam, like after the UN resolution, you know it was at least like a 25 to 30 minute this talk

where you know Bush said basically like these are demands I've got quite literally not a coalition of the willing like a coalition of the free world you know behind me you know if these are not met by January 15th you know

there will be war okay then when the war commenced again you know Bush said you know our country is now at war. There will be casualties. Unfortunately, you know, there will be civilian war dead that far exceed that.

You know, this brings me no pleasure, nor does it, you know, any God-fearing American. But, you know, this is where we are today, geostrategically, as well as morally and otherwise, you know, this is a

grave hour that we must rise of that occasion. Like, whether you believe that or not. I mean, that's, that's presidential. Okay, that's how you act. You know, this kind of weird, like, even, um, I mean, even though, and, and, and, and this

caught on, you know, like, later, like, Bill Clinton was known even this, like, these, these, like, sleep inducing, kind of endless rambling states of the union about how, like, you know, everything in this country is better, like, racial relations are better. Like, blah, blah, blah.

They talk about the great thing he's doing for the teachers union and the people who are like literally like filling his campaign hoppers. But it's like there was when actually serious events happened, you know, he'd like wheel out some idiot like Marilyn Albright saying like, like, you know, Slobodan Milosevic is a criminal. Or like it was some kind of like canned phrase about, you know, how, you know, this is the actual piece of it. you know like we we must have you know like a democratic regime like a Yugoslavia which means nothing and then even subsequent uh you know what did what did bush 43 say i mean do you remember after 9-11 bush 43's big statement was today freedom was attacked by faceless coward okay cut the fucks they mean like you see like fDR like i don't get i mean whatever the politics of

FDR and for all how we're not standing. Can you imagine if FDR and December 7th had gone on national radio and said Today we were attacked by the cowardly Japs, the end? I mean like it's like non-politics or something.

You know, and like with the the weird thing about Biden too is that your point about LBJ, something my dad pointed out, and I mean, because he was there and this has been like a memory hold. You know, during like LVJ's last the totally chaotic like last year of his tenure he literally couldn't appear outside

military bases because his protection couldn't be guaranteed you know people like riot in the streets you know people literally trying to murder him you know like that's how that's how violently divided you know this country is um you know and um even a man who's kind of mandated it all but disappeared. There is still a certain, like, respect for the office discussed in media. You know, like, with Biden, it's like,

say you guys went from literally saying, like, I'm not just talking you shit. If you break down, and I highly suggest the book debunked, which it's exhaustive and, like, the data breaks down about, like, the impossibility of the claim results

of the 2020 election. So, the deep thing literally, him from saying that Biden is this guy, he's like this rare kind of outsider. I don't say how it's possible, considering he's a Fordy way Belway career, just go with me. They're basically claiming he's like this outsider kind of super charismatic man who like transcends partisanship and politics itself. He's literally the most successful political candidate for high office who ever lived. Like the country came together to support Biden.

Because, you know, he's this great, like, healer, metaphorically speaking, you know, write these wrongs of Donald Trump. So three and a half years later, you're basically doing a three-studious role of, like, every kind of one of his, like, fuck-ups, like, prosaic and profound. And talking about he's, like, the worst president ever. And this man has to go. And, you know, this is a disgrace that a man who's this, you know, this, you know, this, um, this. compromise and his ability to render rational decisions is like in the oval office is you can't have in both ways number one number two does anybody think that's a little bit weird you know yeah then to

your point like he tweets out this just kind of like like thoughtless note and then um you know Kamala Harris isn't even actively campaigning you know and like these days I mean the point again one of the things that killed them the Sanis I I don't think the Senate, DeSantis is electable anyway. And, you know, and I don't like that term, but, you know, the term that's dandied by these, you know, the statistician types and pseudocon and stuff. But look, part of the Sanis is, so one of the things that doomed him is, like, he should have been campaigning, like, every day, like, six months before even announced.

Like, basically 20-war-7-365, DeSantis is on the news because he's doing ABC and D. you know it's just him like watching the dog take crap okay i mean that that's what you've got to do that's what trump does so it's like so you want to ceremonies fire this you know you know a ceremony's a finer that fire this like total total cipher like pretend president who you've been claiming is literally the greatest political um campaigner of all time then you don't even make uh really a show of picking his replacement, even if the VEP is kind of a full wrong conclusion. She doesn't even start actively campaigning. This is kind of the first time she hasn't been actively hidden literally by the regime in four years.

Like, like, what is this? You know, like this is not, even if the, even if the, I mean, I think it's pretty clear to anybody who's thoughtful about this, but obviously the plan all along was to make, peace with Trump as they've done and to make him acceptable to, you know, the constellation of power brokers who not so much even costly to the deep state, but do kind of like

make it possible, if it makes any sense, you know, and allow Trump to serve his second term with a certain understanding. But you do have to still kind of sustain a kind of show of legitimacy around the outgoing man. And even if your alibi is kind of, because you notice that

them do have been like trying to force all this unpopular legislation as like Biden is on his way out. Even if your nerve is going to be like, oh, this bad man Biden who was like senile, he did all these bad things. Okay, but that's not how you do it, like how you're doing it now. You know, and it's that's not how, that's not how you kind of protect the record considering what I just said like their narrative was. And finally, you know, Biden's problem is by what everybody says.

It's not Biden's old. it said he's Biden. Like Biden was a fucking joke 40 years ago. And like universally despised by basically everybody. He's literally like the worst possible man to lead a ticket. Like under any conditions. So it's like this is the dude. You insist lead a ticket.

Then you're going to turn on him, you know, at the 11th hour and basically, you know, fire him. then um you're not gonna like uh you're not you're not gonna do one of two things you're not put on this kind of like fake show of nominating kamala and you're not you're not gonna take a guy like gamutu so i mean kind of like trying to habituate people to like him being the president in twenty 28 like instead you're just going to say oh now kamala harris is you know is the nominee and then go back to like her just like being the invisible woman. I mean, this is, this is like raw incompetence of like late Soviet levels. Like, it really is. Yeah. And I, people call me an idiot all the time for saying. And like, whatever, man. You know, it's not about

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Liddle, more to value. Well, a lot of people would say, the same people who would say, oh, the, you have these people pulling the strings on everything, and they can do whatever they want. And then you look at this, and it's like, are they, so. Yeah, what are they trying to do? Like, yeah. Yeah. Are they doing this on purpose? What is this?

Is this like, to throw us off? Is this like a, to make. make them believe that they're incompetent, but they're really these, you know, these unstoppable forces. No, it just seems like it's, it's reached a level where nobody can manage this anymore.

No, and they're, torn apart. And they're these totally, um, you know, it's like there's a, I think that there's some, one of those old, one of these guys, it was like a YouTube channel, um,

with all this old, like film like literal it i guess it'd probably be like 16 millimeter like film from like you know soviet news and stuff from like the 80s like a lot of which was you know like redacted either because it i mean soviets like were like micromeda everything but it's not it's not sharonianko and it's not um it's not um brezhnev it's some like it was some like local like like like uh like uh commas are and it's him uh it's him like trying it's him like you know trying to show it he's like a normal like soviet citizen who goes shopping just like you at the grocery store and i guess they just installed one of those like you know like scanners that we had in the 70s and the guy was like

amazed by the things like you'd never seen something like it before you know and i mean i i guess like I guess like the film crew and kind of like the like the editor commissariat or whatever it would be like realized okay this is a bad look like don't show this but it's almost like Washington like

you know it's like these and what a dude is is acting like timelines a lot like we were talking about like I mean the point how like you know Trump's not Ronald Reagan Trump's not FDR but he's not this like unstoppable motherfucker

with like this kind of like there to fore like unforeseen juggernaut of a ground organization who's basically got like every local political machine in his pocket atop of having like Wall Street in his pocket you know

I mean yeah Trump is a media guy for his last and always he's not a slouch but he's not this like unstoppable candidate and the fact that they acted like he was shows that they're literally senile. But it's also, like the way you play the game is,

okay, you know, if the only person you had to run, or if you were doing a political favoritism to the Clinton Foundation, and if you know this money, it's Hillary Clinton. You got to accept that like a talking dog

could beat Hillary Clinton. So what you do is you fight for Congress, and if you truly can't come to terms, for whatever the incoming president is. You basically neutralize him by removing his mandate in Congress. You don't go like utterly

and completely berserk, like trying to indict him on non-existent charges, like trying to impeach him, and claim that there's an imaginary army of insurrectionist trying to overthrow the country. Like this is insane stuff

and it's just like not done. That's not you do it. You know? And like, it's something I pointed out the other, earlier today. So some some fucking loser, wacko just took a shot at Trump and actually

grazed the guy. Like where, I thought there was like 50 million, like insane, like white power types who worship Trump like, like, like, like the Montanierre worship Colonel Kurtz. And, and tried to like overthrow the government

with the insurrection. Like, why, why are these guys going berserk or why why aren't like why isn't chicago and los angeles like burning down you know why isn't their like whole like towns in the south like declaring that like they've succeeded to the united states like why why aren't people like why aren't they're like you know 100,000 strong like protests and demand you know admit that 2020 was a steal but did these guys just all like decide they don't care anymore and they're just going to like watch porno and play PlayStation or something. You know, like, um,

people can turn it out on me and be like, oh, well, it's because like the American right wing is useless. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not understanding what I'm saying. The claim is that there's millions upon millions of violent, crazy people who literally think that they're being

oppressed by an illegitimate government. If that's true, like, why are these people okay with electoral fraud, but not with somebody trying to murder their candidate. Like that doesn't gel. I mean, at least in the real world where I live, you know, I mean, like, I don't know how else to characterize it. I saw you mentioned the other day that you realize that Trump, a lot of the people who are surrounding Trump, it looks like a lot of

his inner circle is going to be Silicon Valley connected people. What's your opinion of that? A couple of things. So I think that's really, interesting and the Wall Street Journal I don't like recommend it as a source of like good journalism on most topics. As far as market trends at scale, they were some of the first, they were one of the first legacy media brands that pointed out that is fascinating that anymore when an IPO used to mean that a company truly arrived and was capitalized you know they'd be like it was the convention was a huge party about this now it's almost an indicator of a of a fatal dysfunction because it means you're like resorting the conventional means that generally aren't how you how you how you how you capitalize anymore because there is a lot of capital

floating around looking for somewhere to go okay quite literally so you can't just look at like who Wall Street's backing as a candidate yeah that matters like Wall Street will always matter and as any dude in Wall Street would tell to you and I know more guys working on Wall Street you might think that's not me saying I'm chasing clubs I know important people I I'm not like we're really important okay but guys in law street are all together too happy to tell you that you know Well, there is no Silicon Valley without Wall Street. So fuck you nerds.

Okay, yeah. But that's structural. That's not really political what I'm talking about, although there is the structural is the political and vice versa. But Silicon Valley, the way they hedge the executive branch, you're going to back is they do so, like, very cautiously. And they start throwing their weight behind who they,

are like solidly convinced like is going to be the next president okay um and it has nothing to do with them liking Donald Trump like at all okay part of the reason this trump comeback was possible was like him like him like making peace of Silicon Valley with people including myself up until kind of the moment it happened would have like thought it was impossible okay that's why it's another gooby thing when it's like, oh, this is a conspiracy to instill Kamala Harris. If Trump completely, like, loses his mind or his campaign implode, which I don't see how it could happen, but if it did, and Kamala was being president,

that would just be, like, really, really weird and dysfunctional. And when the regime does things at, like, deep level, what remains of it, they don't just, they're not, they're not some, like, lesbian soccer teacher, your kid's high school who just like does things because they think it's like awesome like oh the first like gay man became dog catcher. It's so great. You know, I mean like I

Carl Harris said that nobody former cop of immigrant stock married to some like billionaire like Wall Street Jewish guy that indexes with like nobody. And so people tell you like shot on blacks didn't like love Barack Obama.

Like when I know Barack Obama elected Rob LaGovic fixed the shit for him. That's why the motherfucker went to prison. Obama's wife, whatever, I don't want to get into some argument or making fun of Mrs. Obama's

like unfortunate it looks. But she is actually from Oblock. So there's like that connection. Bobby Rush basically chased Obama out of shy tongue his tail between his legs, like just calling him a fake motherfucker and saying like, who the fuck is this guy?

He's got nothing to with us he's some like weird old like halfway immigrant from Asia which is true and of course uh Roland Burris who uh has got like old school outfit connections like he and uh Ian Blagoia Vittra Bacy first of all like Obama was slated to lose uh Ryan um whoever everybody's like he's been like collectively memory hold jack Ryan was absolutely going to win that election okay that um that October surprise equivalent of that TV actress who he was married to. He coming out

that he was like this big swinger, like womanizer who like, I guess, like smacked around. That's what tanked fucking Ryan's odds. Okay. And took him out of contention. So then like suddenly Obama's in contention. And then suddenly you got like Blake one percent

behind him. And the Blago tapes where Blake was like, look, I've done a lot of things. I got to get fucking paid. You know, all right, who do Who did Blago choose? He tells Roland Burris. You know? So, I mean, think about that.

Okay, it's like very, very clear what happened here. And I'm really fucking tired of people telling me, like, I just don't understand. You're like, well, blacks love Kalama Harris. They love Obama. It's like, bro, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like, again, it's like, it's like your kids, like weird, like, suburban, lesbian, white lady soccer coach loves Kamala Harris. it's like some nerdy white guy who thinks he's like you know reddit smart if he likes Obama

it's not like hood people who like love Obama and Kamala Harris like it's not you know they even like they even like lampoon that shit on like fucking shit like the boondocks you know but um that's that's probably an off topic rant I'm sorry but yeah to your point is like what would this accomplish like just to like flex on people like okay, I mean, but what would that accomplish? You know, you, um... There's so much rugby on sports extra from Sky,

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The last one was, um, I would say, uh, I would say Bush, the first Bush. Bush didn't particularly like Israel. Yeah. What's also to Vince is, um, like Vance isn't this like crazy isn't he's not this he's not this dude who's like hard as fuck on on race issues or like on certain or he's not like the second coming of Ross pro on trade but you knew that Ross pro is a crank you know he pet Schott was a

was basically like a Schumpeter like von Wist uh you know you know supply cider um but the but whatever kind of heterodoxy supply side theory. I mean, yeah, Vance definitely in some ways, has put, you know, kind of the struggles of the white working class and underclass in the map, which is which is great. He's doing God's work for that.

But the dude's not some, he's not like George Wallace 2.0 like 21st century edition or something. Like there's no reason my people would like find him like this just like unacceptable hit or whatever um so yeah and i um i was surprised he picked him because i thought trump trump was gonna head with some kind of like after like trump got uh after trump got it too brutated by pence i thought trump was going to like keep whatever he had his veep like very very very very very on a very tight leash i thought it would be some

kind of like cipher or like kind of like non-person person person is like black guy or something but um not not not even so much because trump cared about diversity points which were a republican he actually has and that's that's the initial to itself but is not not for reasons people think but the point is advanced um has a strong vans has a strong media brand around him but he um you know he's also very much uh you know, God got designs in the presidency for himself moving forward. And there's a stronger person. I would think Trump would allow so close to him in the palace, as it were. But what I was going to say a minute ago, and I forgot, sorry for this senior moment. My friend who posts on my platform is a lot, he never having a discussion, and he pointed out, and I agree with him.

This was the point I was making, and I did not make it nearly as it really as he did. Trump is first, last and always a media guy. He's not a CEO. He's not a financier. He's not a banker or whatever is like dumb shit of ops think. He's like Mr. Media. He hangs out socially with like the, the WWF TV wrestling guy. McMahon.

Okay. Trump was like the first, like, Trump was the first politician who had any clout who understood like the way, you campaign in the 21st century and the way you dominate the internet and you don't fuck with legacy media you know any more than is absolutely necessary in order to kind of you know sustain expectations as to what like vestigily exists of the old system so you had the he's like the Hillary Clinton was like that that Soviet apparatchik I mentioned a minute to go who like couldn't conceive

effect you scan like an orange like over a light beam and the price comes up you guys these people saw about the internet was like this like scary weird thing where like ghosts come through your computer magically or something and that nobody pays attention to

but it's just scary and it's the potential for like Russians to do bad things or something like they're literally like that fucking ignorance okay so Trump interestingly he ran like a 21st century campaign that he was the first

National Political Fear to do so. So like his ops like freaks the fuck out and all they're kind of like latent anxieties like sprang to the surface. You know like some like some sort of you know

like some sort of like literal like bad blood in the old arcane kind of pseudoscience of of like using leeches to draw like bad like humor from people you know so that's one of the reasons that they really like lost their mind over him I think you know and to and to this dude's credit I don't know I don't want to put him in the spot so I don't know like you

know name him even by his broad code name but um but you know that's uh the the secret to Trump success really isn't mysterious like don't be wrong his comeback has been something remarkable and sight and scenes instead of Mr. Nixon but Trump's a sentencing in itself it wasn't this like crazy thing that like oh my God how could this happen you know and the fact that

the fact that the deep state their notion was that um was that was that Jeb Bush he was probably like next to Mitt Romney like the most boring man alive

and interestingly he was actually the choice the R&C in 2000 but the dude pulled so bad Italy, they went with W. Because the fight bill was selective memory, like W actually was a really popular governor. And he also was a per by post

Kennedy standards. He was like during his first term. He was actually a really popular president. But you know, Jeff Bush is a loser to lead a ticket. Hillary Clinton is literally like the most hated political figure of the last century

after the unfortunate Lyndon Baines Johnson. Like this is what this is what the respective you know kind of the factors of the deep state I was like we're winning tickets like Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton like really I mean like they talk about like kind of guaranteeing like absolute like border apathy to like the end

degree it's it's crazy but yeah I mean what do you I you can't read you don't tell me all damn an idiot that don't know what's going on and that the deep state's actually like they're actually like superhuman aliens or something and they're playing like 19d chess that we can't even comprehend. I just don't accept that. Do you think that with, with Mr. Musk pledging all this money towards Trump and, you know,

his buddies in Silicon Valley, David Sachs and Mark Andrese, Ben Horowitz, all these people getting behind, do you think there is a going to be a concerted effort to, you know, how you always talk about how 50 years ago, you know, Musk would be part of the government. Yeah, he'd be working in the government. They'd, they'd look, do you think that there's, there's going to be an effort to try and get more competent people into the government? Because, you know, we look at the government the way it is now, and we both, and we're like, all right, everything's falling apart. They can't even, Biden can't even make an announcement to say he's not running again. And it seems to me like, you know, from things that I've heard from Mark Andreessen recently

and Ben Horowitz, these guys are really worried about competency, especially when it comes to government. And it seems like especially if Andresen is throwing a lot of money behind this. Yeah, you're right. The reason Jerry guys like Jerry Prunell, who are the, the predecessors to the code we were talking about got involved in policy. Pornel, if you read the introduction to the original printing of there will be war, which was his anthology of military science fiction,

from the early Abel Archer era, Baysie said, look, we're going to, and at the time this was a very, on the ball take, he said, we are almost certainly going to fight the Soviet Union. This war is going to be decided in space. Okay, orbital space. He who controls orbital space is he who achieves splendid first strike. Is he who can kill

80 million of his ops and dominate this planet? Even if that didn't happen, at some point, this planet would become, you know, like, unlivable. We've got to think about, like, human habitats, literally off-world. Okay? These are existential, dare I say, godly and spiritual. as well as, you know, advanced historical modalities of thought. Okay.

People like Musk and his friends are the only people talking about that. And government as it exists now, it's obsolete. It's an obsolescent 20th century modality whose raison d'etra hasn't existed in, in 35 years okay so I'm always making the point to people there's not going to be a Soviet moment in the United States most as I compare the two the conditions of the two and their historical trajectories like tomorrow you know Texas California we used to be called the Salad South you know Mississippi Alabama Georgia and like you know in Florida and I'm gonna like to cede and

you know there's not going to be some like Boris Yeltsin figure like you know standing on the White House lawn none of that's going to happen but the US government's going to die death by a thousand cuts over like 200 years and it's going to become basically like this formality

there's going to be like a council of guys like musk a guy's like the other many you just mentioned who like set their trajectory of tech you know like a scale um who increasingly, you know, like are indexed with

Wall Street and big finance and very much kind of like a reciprocal relationship that facilitates both of their access to wealth. You know, and like, and like that's going to be like that's the shadow government. It's going to be like in reality this is like

from where power comes from. And like you're still going to have like a president in the United States, but he's going to be just like some figurehead. And then eventually it's not even going to be that. you know like you're not gonna have national army you're gonna have PMCs yes a lot of these PMC is gonna rep you know like a political religious ethnographic or or historical imperative you know like yes a lot of these a lot of these a lot of these techno lords I don't like you term oligarch and I don't think it's a accurate in this discussion but these like these these techno lords yeah these guys are

going to have like um political interests and sympathies and commitments and it's going to be one of the ways that they're able to sustain like their position and their mandate to wield rape how they do so yes like the political is not going to cease to exist but what dougan said about Fukuyama um in his recent discussion with Tuggar Carlson. I disagree with both Fukuyama and Dugan on many things, but

Fukiama was right. When he does about ideology, he sees things exist, he's not saying that, like, oh, you know, everyone now likes McDonald's so there's no more politics. He's saying this, he's saying this, like, 20th century style ideology like that's done. Like, that whole

mode of thinking, like, is done. It's not coming back. And it doesn't make sense even to talk about it anymore. That's 110. percent right. Okay. And like what's replacing it is like replacing it like before your eyes right now. You know, like it's not, it's not like this like weird thing that might happen in the future. That's why Musk is an important guy. And I don't know how people can shade on him. No, there's a lot of things I don't agree with him on. Like, yes, I think that he's something of a cloud chaser, albeit at a very elite level. But you know what else, man? He's a fucking South African white man.

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how we thought six months ago it looked like they were going to take, that they were going to try and at least be the major influence in the Trump administration, and it looks like the predictions are coming true. But now we're, yeah, now we're getting counter signaled because, oh, David Sacks and Ben Horowitz, and, well, all this is is this is just the Jews going, the Jews are just going to come in through this door. And this is how the Jews are going to have control now. So why are you even, why would you even talk about this?

Why would you even see this as a potential positive? What people don't understand, because when people don't understand and even, they don't talk, they don't understand when we talk about Weimar, don't talk, we understand World War II of the Cold War. This idea that like banking just equals power, like, that's not true. I mean, yeah, if you dominate high finance, you can dominate political processes and outcomes in an outsized capacity but it's not that's not just like the end-all be-all or like the entire equation you know like if I was um you can't

you can't say be a billionaire okay just like walk around like buy and like buy your way okay like even at like a level level yeah to a degree you can do that but I mean this idea that um you know, anything that has to do with, like, Jew-heavy high finance is, like, exeimatically corrupted. That's not true. You know, and the whole issue, too, and I don't want to make this into a conversation on national socialism, but if you read what Helmar Schacht was actually saying, was that, you know, the issue was who, in their estimate, in the estimation of national socialists, It was like the banking, it was the financial structures of the political institutions that they were dominating.

That happened to be the United States and the United Kingdom. That's a big problem. Okay. That's a little bit different than dominating the political, the, you know, the political culture of Brazil or Saudi Arabia through, you know, and through the dominance of the money system plus too increasingly these days man middlemanism is being like phased out

of high finance I mean that's why like insider trading like on the one hand like yeah it's totally out of control or the equivalent is like in the truly like inner control group of these big hedge funds but

like with rubber it meets the road you kind of like where you used to be in like the middle management of um of like bear stern or whatever

that shit doesn't exist anymore okay because your access to information is quite literally like instantaneous you're not like waiting for telex reports to come in and sitting there with like two phones like trying to figure out

you know for hours like what what your actual returns are you know or like what um you know or like how many points you know like this this stock you're heading on is like closing it you know like a lot of this stuff being taken out of human hands okay and i i it's a totally different conversation so i don't want to get into it here we can get into it another conversation but the idea that like jewish power simply equals banking or that like high finance just simply equals jewish power but you're not getting it

if that's what you think it is it's like saying it's like saying like armed robbery is is because of a man having a gun you know i mean like that's an imperfect analogy but i you know forgive me i'm tired but i mean look man like the positive regardless these days is that there's really nothing you could do to the regime and i i don't break the law i never anyone else break the law. I will not advocate people break law in the future. But whatever ill will people might have towards the government,

there's nothing any op can do to the government. It's not doing to itself. Okay, because it's an obsolescent structure. It's the remnants of this like New Deal therapeutic, managerial bureaucracy that's

insinuated into this military industrial and increasingly like tech driven apparatus that was and to it largely is structured to fight

like the Soviet Union that no longer exists okay so why you know basically and basically you can now secede from it and build

parallel societies I mean not quite literally and I'm participating in these things being done. I'm not just fantasizing, okay? Yeah, same here. I'm going to raise up in a minute, man. Sorry for being, as you know, my voice, I think I don't feel great today.

But we can take this up tomorrow if you want, man, like either on a live stream or on another recording. No, I think that this would be, I think that this should be fine. I'll talk to you after we, after we end this. Do you have enough to just do a quick plug? Maybe your website or something. Yeah, man. Or the merch, and the merch.

Yeah, yeah. I'll put them, we'll put the merch in the description. Like it, that's cool. That'd be easier for me. I'll text it to you. But yeah, man, you can find me at Thomas 777.com. Number seven, hm the S-777.com. Find me on Twitter or X rather.

It's at Real, capital REL underscore number 7, HMS 777.com. You find my podcast and my long-informed stuff. Substack, Real Thomas 777.7.7.com. I got a lot of exciting stuff coming up. I'm working on a documentary about our Taylor. I finally got some footage I'm going to drop about some of my travels and some political

stuff insinuated in there. When the DNC comes through in August, I'm going to be there on the ground shooting and not shooting. I mean, like taking video. But it's not

interesting. Sorry, Thomas. Stuff like that, man. Again, sorry, I'm in a drag. It's just it comes and goes. and I started feeling kind of rough about a half an hour ago. Okay. All right.

I'll talk to you. Thank you. Thank you, Pete.