The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1089: Race, Subversion and Opinions on British Tension w/ Thomas777
Episode Date: August 6, 202449 MinutesPG -13Thomas777 is a revisionist historian and a fiction writer.Thomas addresses the subjects of race, race within the American context, Islam, interracial marriage, and the tension in Great... Britain.Thomas' SubstackThomas777 MerchandiseThomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 1"Thomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 2"Thomas on TwitterThomas' CashApp - $7homas777Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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today, Thomas?
Very well, thank you. Thanks for hosting me. Cool. I thought we would take a little break from
Gladio and there were a few topics that I constantly see discussed online by people we know
and we like by people.
My chat, my group chat, I've seen it in your group chat.
So I thought there were some things I would get your take on and see where you're at
with some of these things.
Is that okay?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So when it comes to, like, America, when it comes to what this is and what this, what this is turned into, what are your opinions on race and within the American context?
America's unusual because it's not a culture that has a medieval origin, okay?
if you want to talk about culture as we know it I mean in terms of the kind of habits
practices philosophical discourse aesthetics that basically began in a thousand a
D-dhese okay like yes Europe's the inheritor of Rome Rome's the inheritor of
Doric Athens you know classical Greece generally Europe is our inheritance like all of
true. I'm not saying history literally begins around a thousand AD, but the structures I'm
talking about and the current dialectic begins around them, okay? I, the fellows, it's familiar
with Spangler will realize that the Spanglerian point is not exclusive to him, although I think
he probably explicated it more completely than most. All right. America in some ways
developed
ontologically out of rejection
of that dialectic.
But on the other hand,
America was racked with
this
racial consciousness
that was, in my, was and is in my opinion
overly pronounced.
I'm not saying people care about it too much or anything like that.
I'm saying that
quite literally a race war was fought
against indigenous elements, some of whom were relatively docile, some of them relatively
civilized, some are utterly savage, some were legendary martial races that still
resonate in our collective memory. Okay, they drew a very sharp distinction between
people's as to the fact that slavery became a racial institution after about the turn of the 18th century.
So America is a racialized society without being a caste-based society.
All right. And on the one hand, that means that people have more mobility, just like physically,
literally, as well as socially. It also means that.
that when some sort of conflict diet emerges, it's catastrophic.
Okay? You know, the big concern in the war between the states, especially as, you know, in late 1863, circumstances became desperate,
was that some sort of Haiti situation was going to be triggered. If for no other reason than that, if everybody starts starving in the South, you know, with some black
strong man rises up and is like, you know, slaughter the mastercast.
That could very well happen, even were it not for agitators in the North
trying to cultivate such things in their kind of darkest imaginings.
And there were abolitionists who believed in that.
I mean, John Brown, he wasn't some joker or some polemicist where things kind of got out of hand.
He believed everything he said, okay, and he wasn't the only one.
so that's the issue with America
trying to build a world society
and that foundation
is problematic
I mean in the abstract
I don't think that that enterprise is possible
like true globalism
as envisioned
in late modernity
which really
you know was sort of like the final phase
of this dialectic emerging in a thousand
AD that I talked about. You know, it's like Fukuyama's reference point. I disregard about
90% of what Fukiamma says, but he's right about that. Okay. I don't think that that
sort of global political constitution is possible, okay? But there's unique
exigencies and problems if you're trying to build it upon an American foundation. I know
most people believe the opposite.
But, I mean, that's my historical take on race in America.
If I understood the question adequately.
Do you, Yaki seems to think that it's impossible for America to have a high culture because it was a colony.
Do you agree with that?
No.
The South was America's high culture.
And there's remnants of it, too.
that endure, you know, I mean, there's an interesting question, is Virginia, like, truly the South? Okay? I don't want to approach that question. I'm not trying to be obtuse or anything like that. But, no, Hitler said the same thing. Hitler, on the one end, Hitler said, you know, like America's the most brilliant country on this planet. You know, but he's up, on the other hand, you'll have some brilliant, like, businessmen,
millions to millions of dollars and he'll mock up his bedroom to like you know look like
the Sistine Chapel because he has no taste you know I that's kind of the European
objection to the American enterprise in aesthetic terms okay and Yaki
Yaqui was more European in his outlook than he was American that's why like people
I mean like my ops say all kinds of unpleasant things about me but they they all
also claim on like this this this like unconfirizing Yaki I I don't think that's possible
because I'm I'm like a dissenter Protestant you know and we don't think that way
you know I don't have a European outlook towards the world there's nothing wrong with
that but you know Yaki was very Yaki was very Irish Catholic in my opinion like I
don't mean like he went to Mass and he any you know like a celebrated like the
great Irish Saints or something I mean like his conceptual
horizon it was way way more oriented as like an Irish Catholic person than somebody like me and I'm not throwing shame on that at all you know the Irish is some of the most brilliant work people but that's um no I don't think it's impossible I think a big problem with the Cold War and the entire kind of a discursive culture around it
which doesn't have a trickle-down effect.
There was this kind of danger of a positive and remedial populism in America
becoming just totally vulgarized and being like literally anti-cultural.
I think in the Cold War that really kind of became set in stone.
You know, this idea that, you know, okay, on the one hand, we're a great yeomanry.
But one reason we're better than the Soviets is that, you know, we, we hate,
We hate those, we hate those boss type people too, and all this high flute and bullshit that
reinforces hierarchies that keep us down. It's just that we believe a man's entitled to the benefit
of his labor, and if he can corral enough wealth to become a king, like, let him be a king.
You know, that's kind of my read on it.
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In the modern day, going forward,
how do you see race playing into what America is going to become or transform into?
We live in an odd state of transition conceptually as well as, you know, politically and in terms of physical reality and its parameters, in terms of potentialities for human organization at scale, okay?
The post-Westphalian state is ceasing to exist.
That's part of the core theory of my neuromerk manuscript.
Okay, and public authority has not only lost its prestige, it's lost its power to really command sovereign obedience.
You know how like those stranded astronauts, like SpaceX is having to rescue them?
And like America basically, like people look at the federal government as kind of like a punchline.
Like, they'd be unthinkable like even 40 years ago.
okay
I use this basics example because it's just like so kind of striking and because
at least to somebody my age
you know like the space program
it was not only like the key of the late Cold War but
it kind of symbolized the zina does say
state power and its ability to innovate and
Heidegger made that point too
but um public authority
is going to recede
and you're going to see kind of a return to what is
kind of precedent for most of
modernity. You're going to have
private actors
who command the
authority of governments. You're
going to have constellations
of armed groupings
that are animated more by an
ethos or an idea
or a sectarian imperative
or a
nakedly political
raisal in vitre that run under
the command of
of somebody who presents himself as a PMC commander
or some organization like Hezbollah
which is a professional army. He would hold itself out as like this people's militia.
People are going to self-segregate
even more than they already are now.
There's going to be kind of a re-emergence of common law ethos
that being that, okay, like majoritarian cultural more is going to rule
you know, if there's a 99% like black municipality
and they want only like blacks to police them
that's going to be allowed, they go for whites or like Latins or
you know, name it. You know,
you're going to have
conflict at scale
like it's going on in Ukraine and Russia
is always rare. It's going to become somewhat rarer.
There's going to be a much more fluid
character
to armed
conflict
and it's going to be
it's going to be ubiquitous
but
firepower is not going to
resemble
20th century iterations
you know
both orient technological innovation as well as the fact
that you know
the way
sovereign loci
assert dominion is going to be different.
What spaces and territory is literally coveted.
The criteria for why it's coveted is going to be very much narrowed.
Shortages, people are going to become accustomed to a shortage economy.
Just because as infrastructural globalism and economic and interdependence terms,
That's going to place extreme demands on resources in a way that's never been seen before.
You know, things like this.
And race has an identitarian characteristic, how strong or weak it is, is going to vary by locale.
Okay, but it's going to be substantially stronger than in the final phase.
of the Cold War through the first
decade
and a half of the 21st century
is my prediction.
Something that I've been saying
recently, tell me if you agree with me
or not, that if
the Harris,
you know, if they were to
fortify the election again for Harris
or
if Trump gets in there and then
you know, like the Silicon Valley
guys start, you know,
dismantling the state and everything.
To me, either way, you're going to see a decentralization.
I believe you're going to see a decentralization because if this regime continues the way it is,
it's going to damage the economy.
It's going to damage everything.
But also, if they start, if somebody were to get in there and start tearing apart, like the administrative state or something like that,
that's going to cause decentralization.
And then the local, local is also going to be important.
And so the way I'm looking at it going forward is no matter who wins, no matter what happens,
we're still looking at this sectarianism that you're talking about and people should be concentrating locally.
Oh, yeah, and it's already happening.
You know, executive officialdom has become a joke.
You know, I call Brandon Johnson here in Chicago, the invisible man.
Because, like, the guy, he's, like, more invisible than Biden than the campaign for.
It's like the guy doesn't exist.
You know, and
the Chicago police are standing
down. The state's attorney now
isn't even, they're declining to prosecute
like mutual combat between
gangbangers so long as no
neutrons or civilians
are harm.
I mean, it's all around you.
Like, that's why it's crazy, like, these people
acting like,
like, these people acting like it's the 1980s
and like somebody would take
like a president, Kamala Harris,
seriously or like people take like these these mirrors who like cut ribbons and and observe pride months seriously nobody takes these people seriously you know like nobody there's like a subculture or kind of disengaged like old people and cat ladies who are like scared of everything who like they can't they can't get their mind around like you know the fact that you know this isn't like a big kindergarten classroom and the president isn't the teacher
But anybody who's, you know, of developed mind and thinks about these things, like, it's all around you.
You know, I don't understand if people can't see that.
The situation is different than Europe.
And it's especially different in Asia, but, you know, Europe's obviously under hostile occupations.
That's a different kind of thing.
And that's not to say that the state is powerless or that social engineering isn't happening anymore.
It's happening in earnest, okay?
and this is very bad, okay?
But I'm speaking in terms of like long-term historical processes.
You know, I'll long be dust before I see this like come to full fruition.
Okay, but it is very obviously underway.
What would your advice be to, you know, say people who, you know,
claim the white nationalist, white nationalist label?
What should they be doing now so that they could see their,
the kind of future they would want.
Social capital.
Like, what me and
what me and my people
are doing,
collectively.
You know, it's not
somebody leader among us, but I
we've built
an organic network of people that
constitutes a deliberate community,
but it's based on actual
bonds of like affection and like shared
culture and faith.
And we've started migrating
the locale. They were already friendly
to us, but that our core
group, if you will,
our founding element, if you want to think
in those terms, life finds agreeable.
I don't want to take off a list of these places
because we don't want
fucking tourists, and we don't want to be
becoming some mainstream media
phenomenon where
you know, like MSNBC used up
and it's like, there's this racist colony of these people,
blah, blah, blah. But,
you know that's why I got to laugh when
I guess that's part of why
like I record like a lot of what I'm doing
it's not I probably got the most like boring
life imaginable I mean it's not it's obviously
not because like I'm reading some like
interesting just set of life it's because people
like you know
it's because like these guys who claim to be
like on the right they're like fucking posers
and they're literally just like dudes like
um
like playing a character just like saying shit
you know it's like this actually is
like my life and like what I do
you know and um we've uh we've rebuilt what the enemies of our people would tear down and remove from
our ability to remove from our um historical memory so i've heard some people uh saying you know
people who are in our crowd online you know mostly digital talking about like uh
JD Vance.
Jady Vance can't possibly be our guy.
He can't possibly have our interests at heart because he went and married an Indian.
He mixed race and everything like that.
What's your take on interracial marriage?
I think generally it should be discouraged.
That doesn't mean you pass laws against it.
And by the time you're trying to regulate social behavior by way of law,
you already lost your cultural capital.
There's always going to be,
it kind of like the top and at the bottom,
under ordinary conditions of like caste stratification,
there's going to be some like interracial marriage,
depending on like how you define race.
At the top, it's one way like you avoid Ross and Krieg
with other tribes, you know,
and also in a truly cast-driven society,
the overlords are almost
their own ethnic group and even like
their genetic distance
somebody else is he even bears that out
so depends what we're talking about
they were talking about some like German aristocrat
like marrying some
lady who's like descended from like the Japanese
royal family like yeah that's one
thing you know we're talking about some like
welfare mom like
getting knocked up by some black guy
like yeah okay I mean
the underclass is always going to behave badly.
Okay.
We're not,
our job not to go on and police
like the lumpins,
you know?
Generally, it's something that
regulates itself.
You know,
there's a communitarian impulse in people, and
you know, I make the point
to people again and again,
and I think I don't know, considering
I'm like very much in my minority where I live,
it's like my people in blacks and other races
they've like living in this continent
for almost 500 years
but like somehow like we still exist
then like we're remarkably like racially pure
like apparently like everybody doesn't want to marry a black person or whatever
some of these weirdos claim
you know
so it basically takes care of itself
in the case of advance
if Vance had married some kind of Asian woman
he wouldn't have been given the keys to
Congress
he just wouldn't have
you know
he's right
he's like a total he's the token hillbilly they led into the Ivy League
but it has limits
okay
but so him showing up with this
with this Asian
lady that he married. It's like, oh, okay, that this guy, that, that's him, like, genuflecting
before, you know, the chivaless of the regime. Like, whether Vance is like our guy or not,
I mean, I don't, yeah, I, I, I find Vance not more light. I mean, Vance is one of my people.
I'm not going to sit here and, like, talk shit on him, because I don't, I don't, I don't,
like, make a hobby of, like, trashing my people. Um, I've had some,
not very nice things to say about some of his policy statements because he's obviously putting
careerism careerism over principle but I mean if if people want to participate in this system
and I do not I don't but if they do um a man advances background he's he's going to be
quote-to-quote compromise in some way if a witness test is purity of certain standards of behavior
relating to
racialism.
That's this reality.
But I can think of
I can think of a hundred other reasons
why you shouldn't
index with the regime.
You know? But again, I
I
like to think of myself
with my friends as the 1%.
You know,
um,
like, uh,
probably more towards the
disreputable end of that.
I want to invoke
to represent elites.
I mean,
obviously,
I'm being funny.
But,
you know,
I,
I,
I don't,
I,
people are being realistic,
aren't,
aren't going to look for,
aren't going to look for savers and,
you know,
to emerging Congress,
even if they're from,
you know,
a background that's,
like,
legitimately,
um,
verified,
you know,
um,
that's fancy's deal.
What do you say to people who say that really there is no way that, you know, this country can go forward, this culture can go forward with Jewish influence, Jewish people here in power, Jewish people having overawed influence in certain things, you know, basically people calling for, unless we kick all the Jews out of the country, there's no way we're going to have a country?
I mean, would Hannah rent a situation?
scribes in the origins of totalitarianism, how this like intractable hostility developed between
our people and Jews, it owes the peculiarities of the modern state.
You know, I'm saying structurally, that's what accounts for Zionist power.
It would not have been possible before.
Some of these matters are going to take care of themselves.
Some of them are not.
I mean, that's why I so strongly
indexed with the Palestinian
resistance, and I'm fond of saying
because it's true, not because it's just some slogan I like,
Zionists are my only ops, okay?
And that's true.
The fact that
like taking pride in your race doesn't involve, like, sitting around
and, like, heeding people for no reason
or just, you know,
deciding that, like, everybody who's not, like,
white is your op.
that doesn't make any sense. It's also not politics.
You know, like, um, the problem is social engineering,
which harms all races and discrete cultural elements
and strips away what it is to be human.
You know, like the issue wasn't that like, yeah, like black people or browns are like intrinsically or ops.
That, again, like that doesn't make any sense.
Like, Zionism is a different story.
There are my people's enemy.
When you look at someone like E. Michael Jones says that, you know, at the foot of the cross,
they denied Logos.
So that's why they seem to be the peculiar way they are now.
You have someone like Kevin McDonald, who talks about evolution.
And then you just, you know, there are other, how do you deal with those?
because the way
if you read McDonald
and you read like E. Michael Jones
properly, then
basically what they're saying is
there's always the chance
that anyone who has Jewish
blood is going to be subversive
to liberty,
white people,
the West, what have you.
Yeah, it's not
there's truth in both Jones and
McDonald
I mean, I'm not a Roman Catholic.
Yeah, I agree.
Like, Jones is, he's right.
Like, rabbinic Judaism, it rejects the Logos.
Like, that's one of the reasons why, like, this revolutionary spirit
takes the form so much of, like, anarchic tendencies.
You know, and, like, encouraging, like, literally crazy things that are, like,
anti-reason.
And to be anti-reason is to be anti-Logos.
To be anti-God.
The problem with McDonald is this.
Like, McDonald's very much part of that generational coterie that came of age during, like, peak cold war.
And in the 20th century, kind of like the materialist antithesis, directly to Marxism, you know, because the Marxist paradigm is like, okay, you know, like historical process.
Like, human life ontologically is historical process.
Historical process is economic determinism and labor.
So it must be an animal worker.
Okay. And tensions between people, you know, it was the paradigms of material needs for survival.
Okay. And everything else is just kind of overlay, you know, based on superstition or misunderstanding of the process so described or manipulation of people by, you know, powerful elements, you know, things like this.
The antithesis that dialectically, in the materialist, you know, like atheist 20th century is,
well no you know the issue is people's blood and what we consider another DNA you know like your race is
determinative but you know it's because your genes basically make you behave like this you know so to be a
Jew is to be like of this person of a certain kind of race you know and like I made the point of people
like yeah race is real but ethnos does a racial component do it but it's like if I took like a newborn
baby and put him on a desert island.
Like, what do he, you know, like, who was, like, racially Jewish.
And he never even heard about Judaism.
He had no idea he was a Jew.
He was, like, only around, like, you know,
see, like, this kind of, like, fixed population of, like,
Northern European people.
You know, like, in my counterfactual, this is, like, a grand experiment.
Like, when he hit 12, but he suddenly start acting Jewish,
I mean, like, that doesn't make any sense.
You know, like, um, yeah, like, race is real.
Like, yeah, genetic determinism is in part legit, but it's not, there's not like some gene that makes you Jewish.
I mean, yeah, like race is part of your ethnicity, and it's like an extricable part.
But the source of the tension we're talking about isn't that like, well, you know, if you're born with like these genes, you know, you start acting Jewish at a certain age.
And then that just makes, you know, that just makes like all like white Christian people, like you start.
viewing them with suspicion.
There's not how politics works.
That we're talking about is a political problem.
So you catch a lot of crap for,
you know, your views on Islam.
And can you
talk about your views on Islam?
And then, you know, I guess we'll get into
talking about what's going on in England
and Ireland right now.
Because those are,
you know, that subject leads right into the other.
The issue with Islam is that it's a
It's a civilization of a billion people.
And Muhammad was one of the greatest men who ever lived.
You know, he's on par with, you know, Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler.
He was very much a cramol type figure.
Like, Muslim isn't an ethnos.
Okay?
The fact that the occupation regime is, like, dropping some shitbag from Pakistan and London
who's proceeding to knife people.
That's not Islam.
there's not some like central command of Islam
that's like sending ops to England
and they're like it's my Islamic duty
to you know like rape little kids or something
like that's fucking retarded
my view of Islam is
basically in line with Johann von Lears
later
aka Omar Amin
René Guillaume
there
are elements within Islam
and people
who constantly those elements
were my natural allies and friends.
They also happen to be
literally on the front line
fighting my people's enemies.
Okay.
Thirdly,
they have an incomplete understanding of God,
but that itself is God's will.
And they're,
those who are pious believers
and abide the faith
are
incredibly dedicated
and admirable
in my opinion
and
I
call them my comrades
and going to battle
with them
a hell of a lot
soon I would
some like
race trader idiot
who celebrates
gay pride mode
okay
and I'm not here
to make friends
like
I know people
I don't like
if you don't like
that I don't care
I'm accountable to God
I'm not accountable
to like
random guys who like don't like Islam.
You know, I mean, that's great. You don't like that.
Okay. I mean, what do you want?
I'll send you a bag of gum and like include instructions how to chew it, you know,
because they'll show how sorry I'm that you're mad.
So it seems like, um, in response to not only three, uh, little girls being murdered
and a bunch of other kids hurt, but, you know, sustained,
sustained attacks over
decades now.
The English people are
you know,
they're calling it rioting
and I think it,
I mean, I don't know what to call it because
I just, to me,
yeah, I called it on Twitter today.
It was just a white blood cell reaction
to everything that's been happening.
And I think that they're probably
just as upset over.
at their leadership not doing anything and now looking at them as shitbags because they're reacting
to it instead of and having a stronger reaction to their reaction and the reaction to three
girls being murdered so you've probably seen some of the videos i've been following a little bit about
what's going on there so what's your uh what's your take on it what's bizarre about the uk
i mean it's what i mean it's a rosson creek okay there's a race war women
What's bizarre about the UK, I mean, yeah, it's under the occupation regime as much as Germany is, like even though it wasn't firebombed into oblivion.
But, you know, it's like Inoc Powell said, you know, the UK is not and was not a republic, unless you count Cromwell's experiment, which arguably was the first republic.
Most people that would say it was Ferdinette and Isabella Spain.
But so you figure this kingdom, this empire, literally one day.
day after after after after after after after church like self like is like
like suicide of it suddenly they're like okay everyone like within the British
umpire's dominion like now with citizenship rights they didn't even have any
idea how many people that constituted like think about that you know what I
always thought was that it was just part of the detonation strategy you know it's
like ethnic cleansing under auspices of immigration and like obviously like the
Tony Blair like memo like
validates that. We knew that anyway.
But the British
regime just kind of shrugging its shoulders.
You know like
in Operation Banner,
I mean they indexed the army
into the Royal Ulcer Constabulary.
They segregated the populations
with literal like barriers
like Berlin Wall type barriers.
You know, if this isn't
some strategy attention
slash ethnic cleansing detonation strategy
like what is it?
I mean, I think their systems just imploding because,
not to be corny, but, you know, as Yates said, like, the center cannot hold.
You know, I mean, the problem was, like, kicking off a detonation strategy
because it's a really swell idea to, like, really stick it to those,
those stuffy old Tories or really stick it to those goyish bastards.
It's like, all of a sudden you started a forest fire that you can't control.
And I guess that's what's happening now.
I mean, obviously.
Some of the people who are watching this are warning us that this is just another big gay Jew op.
That, you know, this is them orchestrating this, and now everybody, all these people are going to go to jail and every, yada, yada.
So basically, if you decide you're going to do anything, you're just being led by the nose by the Jews.
I mean, it's part of the whole occupation regime.
And this stuff takes out on like an organic quality.
You know, like I said, the entire, we did a whole theory on the destruction of the UK
and how and why it happened with Churchill.
You know, and again, I said to Enoch Powell.
I know everybody likes his Rivers of Blood Speech,
but his old point was that not only are we,
obviously under the heel of a hostile regime,
but it's even worse than the fact that the regime is trying to strip us of our culture
and turn this country into a jail.
They're losing control of their detonation strategy.
I mean, this was back in the 70s.
Okay.
I mean, that's what's like, like, yeah, the strategy of any,
the strategy
the entire social engineering enterprise is yes
to basically criminalize everybody for acting
for behaving
in an intentionally political
manner because politics is inherently
identitarian and that has been criminalized
okay but there's not
it's not some special branch
honey trap
to get certain people to do certain things
in some targeted capacity
It's like not that thought out.
It's more general.
What would help this?
Would like a Moseley type of leader stepping up and speaking for this action, would that help it in some way to make it,
give it the possibility of having some, the people getting some kind of resolution for what they're wanting?
They need to mobilize like people did in Northern Ireland.
Yes, they need to do that.
But England will be fucked until Europe is liberated.
Europe can't be liberated until Germany is liberated.
Germany can't be liberated until Germany allies with Moscow.
America is that, America is waging war on the Russian Federation to prevent that from happening.
Okay, but that's the only path forward.
But yeah, at ground level, people need to do what I just said.
what do you see is that the likelihood of that happening in the future there i mean it's very
i don't know the call i haven't been there in 25 years i don't know the culture well enough
you know like my good buddy keith woods um i mean he's an irishman i um i i talk to him on the
regular when he and i are both kind of not traveling i want to i i wanted to get hold of him
for a few reasons not just because he's my friend i want to pick his brain i
I can't speak about the London street.
I literally haven't been there in 25 years.
So I can't read.
There's a lot of great English and Ulster guys and Irishmen who like support my brand.
And but I, and like they tell me what's happening and I believe them.
But, you know, that they're absolutely telling the truth.
But I, there's different than like knowing what's happening on the street.
Okay.
Like I can tell you about what it's like in Chicago, but, and I can even show you like if I, if I hate stuff.
but it's not the same as
like being there
so I've got no comment
right now. Have you heard anything
about Germany?
No.
The last dudes I talked to from inside
Germany
some of the alternative for
Deutsche line guys, like I said, I know
I actually know the dude
who's kind of their American liaison.
Okay, I don't want to, I don't want
I'm not going to go beyond that. I'm not going to
tell you like where he mostly
hangs out or the people he fucks with here because like I I don't want to cause him troubles but um
he and his guys as well as some of the groopers um were very kind and invited me out um
when they were in Chicago and he gave me their rundown I mean the German street they've
always known what's up but what are they going to do I mean like they're
they're like literally under occupation and dissent is illegal like you will go to prison you will be stripped of your assets they like they like 90 year old grandmas in jail for a criticizing court history you know um
merkel like i said is the only consler since Cole who actually took steps towards the restoration of limited sovereignty which could
lead to liberation moving forward.
And for her trouble,
she got a terrorist attack on the Nord Stream pipeline,
courtesy of her American ally.
The Germans know itself,
but that's exactly why the boot is on their throat.
You know, but again, their path to liberation is geo-strategic.
You can't extricate the European situation or abuse strategic conditions.
You know, yes, at local street level,
people need to defend themselves.
And sometimes that includes, like, throwing the,
punch or firing the first shot.
Okay.
But the
problem is
political and there's a geo-strategic
implication beyond that.
You know, and like I said,
that's why the
American war against Russia is so
critical.
Do you think that if, God
forbid, something happened to Mr. Putin's
tomorrow, that
whoever replaced him
as long as he had Mr. Lavrov
there they can keep this going to keep keep up this this resistance yeah Russia's not going
anywhere um Russia lost one in seven of their population to the the third right in four years
they took 25 million dead that's incomprehensible you know and they I think I
I think that's what killed their superpower odds.
I mean, that's a whole complicated
litany of factors.
You know, we're talking about the entire outcome of the Cold War.
But, yeah, the Russians are,
the Russians are for all practical purposes, unkillable.
I'm not being flippant.
Russia is in real trouble.
The enemy is literally at their gates.
It's within decapitation range.
and a generation of Russian manhood and the problem of life is ending up in the ground,
along with their Ukrainian counterparts.
It's a disaster, but no, Russia's not going to cease to exist.
Well, I think that should be good for just a good kind of popery kind of episode,
just hitting different kind of subjects and everything,
and then hitting some current events.
So thank you.
and why don't you do
plugs and we'll end.
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I actually want to hear my takes on things.
I'm not being corny.
Like, I really
I really mean that.
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I'm trying to, um,
the DNC convention like I said I'm gonna I'm gonna hit it up with a at least one other
you know crime partner of mine anybody else wants to click up's welcome to come with
I want us to see for ourselves what's going on there and I want us to like fly our flag again
without without provoking um without being overly provocative you know I'm gonna fly the same
flags I always do what I mean it's like no gang
bullshit no like overtly
like provocative like racial shit
you know beyond yeah about me
it's like right under the
right under the rebel flag or
national socialist stuff but
no like a few N-word
shirts or like bullshit like that but that
should go without saying we're all the adults here
all right thank you so much man
you have a good night
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