The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1095: The Thought Crime Syndicate Returns w/ Dark Enlightenment, Charles Spadille and Jose Niño

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

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How are you gentlemen doing? Who has something that's on their mind that's so pressing they want to jump in with a subject? Good to be here, Pete. Thanks so much for having me again. Just to recap real quick, nothing ever happens, which is why since the last time we recorded a month ago, there's Van Gogh. an assassination attempt with probable assistance of the Secret Service, a coup,

the Olympics where Satan isn't beginning to end, and it looks like a race where it's kicking off in the UK. Did I miss anything? Nothing ever happens. Come on. That's ridiculous. I don't think you missed anything there. the um oh just a normal day yeah well well the a lot of people are bringing up the fact that like

trump now that he's posting videos on uh twitter again and a lot of people are upset that he's not using there's only one video that i really saw where he used the assassination what do you think should he just be i mean should that be something he should just every video and every time he speaks he should be talking about that and just staying on that one subject. I'm a bit torn on that topic. I can kind of see both sides of the fence, not to be wishy-washy, but to be genuine. I can see trying to kind of overplaying the hand, if you will, but I think it would behoove him to at least keep it in the public mindset.

I don't know if that would involve. I'm not a marketing expert. I'm not a positioning expert when it comes to things like that. but I just think it would behoove him to continually reference it at the very least, if not, maybe not use the video all the time or constantly talk about it 24-7, but definitely keep it in the public mindset. Because it is important. It really is.

As it's been said many times, they're not after him. They're after us. He's just in the way. And I think it's true. I 100% believe it to be true. That's what I would say, yeah, that's what I would. that's what I would, that's the message I would be sending constantly.

I'd be sending, you know, I would cut images of the border being invaded. I just saw a video of, like, a cartel people dropping off on, like, wave riders or skis-dews, dropping people off on the beach in San Diego. I'd super cut a bunch of that, along with a bunch of the Muslims carrying knives and stuff walking down the street in the UK and all that.

And then I'd say, you know, and then show that, say they're not after us or they're not after me, they're after all of us. And then just, you know, Trump 2024. Yeah, I think that he's, uh, it seems like his campaign or he had decided that they were going to try and hold stuff back. And, you know, basically not let Trump be Trump like he was in 2016. I think the hiring of Corey Lewandowski and a couple other people this week signal that they may be ready to let him go off leash.

I honestly think they're just waiting for the DNC, the Democrat National Convention, to be over. Because if you can just sit back for a few more days and let that pop off and see whether all of these pro-Palestinian protesters show up and cause like 1968 type of riots, then you have a ton of stuff to play off of. You have, I mean, that'll just show you. That'll, this is what you're going to get.

You're going to get chaos if these people win. If the cackling hen and the hen pecked husband, you know, who doesn't have an opinion outside of his wife and every female friend that he has. If they, if you elect them, this is our future. And just, you know, hopefully they have some like 1968 type fire hose footage or something like that. Well, remember in 2016, remember that they put a fence around the DNC so that all the Bernie people couldn't get in. And I mean, remember, like, what was it,

50% of the delegates walked out. If I'm recalling character, I remember watching it and just cackling like a madman. I was glued to watching it. But they never really capitalized on that. And I thought that was, again, they didn't capitalize on it. And again, I thought that was one of the many mistakes

that he and his people had made throughout the beginning of their tenure and beyond. So I hope they learn from the mistake there and take your advice here and capitalize on whatever may happen this time around. But I think it would be good to keep in mind that there was a lot of drama, if you will,

and a lot of opportunity in the 2016 DNC that they just simply didn't capitalize upon. But I'm hoping that they'll take your advice here. Overall, I think the Trump campaign needs to avoid, in my opinion um turning this into just some boring uh debate about public policy and start using like much more visceral imagery and just more like primitive appeals to the population that we're dealing with an opposition that are just a bunch of savages that are gonna unleash chaos and bash our heads in if we don't push them back and i think that

the DNC convention the DNC will provide a ton of content to rip off of especially with a lot of these pro-Palestine protesters and disgruntled leftists that are probably going to recap it because like Chicago is going to have like a lot of those in scores and I think it would be a total folly by the Trump campaign by going the high road and turning this into some boring policy debate as opposed to like just showing that like what we're dealing with here is America versus anti-America on the other side. Excellent point. You got something to E?

Well, I think that there's a, I think Cozay's completely right. And I've heard from multiple people that they're not actually aimed at getting, you know, the five to 10 percent of the black butter. What they're aimed at is like suburban women who are, milk toast about like not one nice white suburban ladies um and that might be true and it it disgusts me that you know for the last 50 years the presidency has been decided by um whoever made the most you know housewives in ohio and pennsylvania you know um feel funny but that's that's the absurdity of the you know society we live in and as i've said for years

you know nothing that's going to get fixed long term until we repeal the 19th of That's a separate discussion. What you need to do is make it clear to voters that this election is not about, and I have plenty of criticism to Donald Trump. No, we need to bring tons of people with AI. Like, no, actually, it's a complete opposite of that. So Donald Trump is messaging completely wrong. But this election is about, are we going to have a civilization or are we not? Those are our choice.

It's a 50-50. you know and the United States will not survive as a functional entity if we get another

20 million free letters who are of you know Mestizo or African racial stock here and spent keeps spending money

and spending money without any real growth in the private sector the United States will fall apart. And most of our states aren't in a position to be able to, you know, do the local thing and actually survive, you know, Alabama governor K. I.B., right? Like, she's not actually prepared to do what would be necessary to make Alabama function absent massive amounts of federal dollars. Just for example. So this election is actually really important. I know that the 34 years they say this is the most important election ever, but actually, this one actually is pretty important. Because as Charles pointed out, they're not after Donald Trump.

They're after you. Look at what's happening in England. Do you think the police in the United States are any less hostile to ordinary white people? How many, how many kids, how many little kids have been killed in the United States by immigrants or by just black criminals? And if white people in, you know, when Canada was killed, if white people in, you know, I think of South Carolina. But if every time a white person who was just needsly slaughtered by an illegal immigrant, white people got out there and rioted and started burning down, you know, Iglesia do, lose immigration church, whatever, do you think the cops wouldn't just start beating the shit

out of white people? I mean, they're just as a sastow here. They're just a little bit more reticent about it because we have guns. They're just a saw style. Those people who love going out shopping for Black Friday deals, they're mad, aren't they? Like proper mad. Brenda wants a television and she's prepared to fight for it, if you ask me.

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I think on the point you're raising D, I just want to say very briefly, when you say that this important, they always say that, well, this election is the most important one. I agree with you. I think for once the blind squirrel has found a nut, I think this really is very important and to sort of give a metaphor to what you're saying about this election, do will we have a civilization or not?

I sort of look at it roughly. I haven't had a lot of time to think about it because I'm just riffing off of what you said. But I look at it as a very tumultuous river before us that we could easily step in when we try to for it and get carried away and drown. And this election is simply, are we going to tip a law? over the river across the river so that we can walk across to civilization or are we going to walk into the river get swept away and drowned and the reason i use that as a metaphor is because we we all know every man in this panel knows trump is not going to save us it's not going to happen he's just a democrat from the 80s now does that mean we shouldn't vote for him absolutely not like again he is a bridge

to get us where we need to go. He is not the end destination. Hopefully that makes sense to you gentlemen. Well, one of the things that I would say is I have an episode coming out tomorrow with some, if you listen to Judge Napolitano, I'll show you've probably heard him. Larry Johnson, former CIA agent.

Yes, he's fantastic. Yeah, he's great. Yeah. The reason I had him on is because it became very clear to me. me, listening to people like Mark Andresen, that our military is 20 years behind Russia and even Iran. So I wanted him to come on and say that and, you know, say that. Talk about why. And yeah, he basically says Russia has things, Russia has technology, even Iran has technology. I mean, he says one of the missiles that was shot at Israel,

actually change direction mid-flight as it was falling and, like, did a 90-degree turn, then did another 90-degree turn to evade countermeasures. He goes, that's not something we have. So if we're 10 to 20 years behind Iran, we're definitely behind Russia. I mean, Russia is far beyond military technology what we have. not having people in there who recognize this and want to do something about this is not only going to spell our demise from the inside, but I mean,

it could be a double whammy of demise from the outside as well. Well, I mean, Tucker's talked about this a little bit, but we're just getting reverse opium crisis right now. What is fentanyl but a Chinese weapon? It's a weapon to destroy the United States. Like you are My friend Trey Garrison

wrote a book available from Anililil publishing you know about the opioid crisis pick it up if you can

um this is a just this was a bullet aimed at the heart of America and the same people who took the factories that those people who used to

used to work at you know the Chinese allowed you know massive amounts of drugs that kill people into the United States. And it's, you know, Trump's trade policy is the only way, you know, that we're going to be able

to defend ourselves. Like if your antibiotics and your chips and everything else that, like, you actually require to be sovereign is made somewhere else, you're not a sovereign country. sorry we're not yeah the book that um the book i'm reading right now um kudatah by edward luttbach that's one of the the big takeaways in that book is that there's only six or seven countries in the world that can make military technology especially military aviation that can help you win a war that can actually cause you to win a war that's that's powerful enough for you to defeat your enemy. And because of that, any, like, African nation that does business

with one of those seven countries is basically enslaved to them. They're relying on them for parts. They're relying on them for training. They're relying on them for everything. And that's where we are right now when it comes to China with a lot of the parts for our military equipment and drugs and I mean basically Yeah everything runs up Microfits now And so if you don't control your own microchips

You're You're not sovereign And so the book I mentioned is opioids For the masses by Tricharis But So before Sweden joined to NATO When they were still neutral They had their own

Indigenous Combat Aircraft And I think they I can't remember the name of the manufacturer but they did. And many years ago, like 10 or 15, when I was first starting to learn about this stuff, I looked it up.

The Nordic countries by themselves, so Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Finland, and Norway had more combat aircraft than all of sub-Saharan Africa, bar, South Africa. And, like,

put together, they have, like, 25 million people total. So, yeah, like five little countries in North Atlantic had, you know, a tenth of a population of like two or three, right? Nigeria has like 100 million people almost and Egypt has like 100 million people and by themselves. Like these five little Nordic countries had more combat aircraft than all of Africa put together. Referring to the drug point that you raised earlier, D, about the fentanyl crisis and the Chinese, I think it's excellent that it is, it is just the opium 2.0. But I think it's interesting that the Chinese send this in and the elites use the drugs to kill the folks that would do the jobs that were now getting immigrants to come in and do.

I mean, I think that's sort of the sick and vicious cycle. It's, they used to say when I was growing up, oh, immigrants are doing the jobs Americans. won't do. Well, is it that or that you're murdering by degrees, literally, the populations that will do these jobs. Not only are we losing the population that will do these jobs due to the cratering birth rate, but you're outright killing the other percentage that would. Pest, did you know? Those Black Friday deals everyone's talking about? They're right here at Beacon South Quarter. That designer's sofa you've been wanting? It's in Seoul, both concept, and Roche Bubao. The Dream Kitchen?

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Standard Pressing applies after 12 months, further terms apply. By fostering this invasion. Because I just wanted to mention that to your point. I'd like to raise another point that I think is sorely lacking in any discussions regards to China. I think it cannot be appreciated the role. I believe that Chinese espionage in the Anglo-Sphere, countries with large degrees of legal Chinese migration from Canada, Australia, to the U.S., how these legal migrants have basically formed the fifth column embedding themselves in universities.

And I dare to say even military institutions where they're probably facilitating massive forms of corporate and military transfers back to the Chinese mainland. I think that has played a significant role in not only bridging the gap between the U.S. and China in terms of military power, but potentially giving it China advantages. And the fact that you have all these China Hawks not talking about, like, saying, let's have a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0, like ban all freaking Chinese. nationals from even setting foot on these territories and like seizing their assets and all that stuff um they just revert to the typical um neocan like regime change stuff oh we're we're not gonna

we're not fighting the chinese people we're fighting the chinese government it this type of like low IQ form of politicking is um it's just like a symptom of really of this rot that we're facing the civilizational rot where we aren't defining like what our civilization is and it feel like and we have to start being a lot more exclusionary from trade to the immigration restriction and not cuck ourselves by falling for politically correct tropes or embracing inadequate with ideologies from civic nationalism to neoconservatism. Yeah, well, I think that you're completely correct there. But let's not forget it's also the Indian government.

Like liberalism is moral syphilis, as Jonathan Bowden used to say. And it makes you crazy and makes your virility fall off, as it were. So we have this idea that, you know, seek truck drivers who just, run over kids in Canada. They're just as capable of driving truck as anybody else. Like, no, no, this is not true. Every time someone gets busted for espionage, like the U.S. Navy, it's like, Lieutenant, you know, Harry Lee busted for, you know, of course.

He's only second generation Chinese. He has cousins in China right now. I was going to say that. I was talking to somebody the other day who is in know and they said that basically everyone who ever gets arrested for espionage and sending secrets to China is either a Chinese national who's here visiting or somebody who is from a Chinese family who may be second and even third generation is it it's not white people it's Chinese right well and look at look at you know look at what's the most famous case of espionage ever

It's the Rosenberg. Yeah. You know, Stalin wouldn't have had nukes without, you know, a certain tribe, right? Like, this is not a new problem. We just need to, we as white people just need to be honest enough, right? We need to shed liberalism as such and just be honest enough. Like, no, no one else is going to do. And I think it was Joe Sober, you know, there's that long quote from Joe Sober and that like,

we don't understand how we're. resentful everyone else is because we're just, they live in our world and they know it and they resent us for it. I could find it, you know, but basically, right? You know, the Chinese for the last 500 years have lived in a world defined by bearded dudes from the North Sea. And they're the oldest civilization on earth and it rankles them. You know, do you think, do you really think Xi Jinping likes having to put on a suit and tie to conduct business. Excellent. Why isn't he wearing a Mandarin costume? Why isn't that the the mode of normal

dress? It's because we dominate them so much that they have to wear our clothes and speak our language and use our technology. And of course it makes people mad. Of course they resent it. Don't let foot pain or discomfort hold you back. At foot solutions, we specialize in high quality supportive footwear. And Use the latest scanning technology to custom-make orthotics, designed for your unique feet. If you want to free your feet in joints from pain, improve balance or correct alignment, book a free foot assessment at footsolutions.I or pop-in store today. Foot Solutions, the first step towards pain-free feet.

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You have to. That's it. It doesn't get better if you don't. And that's a lot of this, the issues that we're having is just having the fortitude to make those decisions, to make those claims. But again, that also goes back to your point about the 19. Amendment, which is a whole other discussion. But I know for a fact regarding specifically the Chinese, I've said on, I'm fairly certain I've said on this program multiple times, all the F1 visas, like a tremendous, huge, huge percentage of them are all just spies. They're just here to take

our intellectual property, both military and civilian. They're just here to take that. That's all. That's why when Trump said he wanted to give citizenship to everybody that goes to school here, I could have I was like, that's just absolutely insane. That's, that's absolutely, 100% bat shit crazy. Like, that's one of the worst ideas I have ever heard in my life. It's, it's just, I couldn't believe it. It knocked me over how bad it was. Because you're exactly right, Jose.

That's what the vast majority of this is. If they're here, 80 to 90% of it is just, is just espionage, either corporate or military, but that's what it is. That's, it's a simple fact. Well, just their presence is that there's, there are our ordinary 105 to 110 IQ white people who can do those jobs that were destroyed by the evil education system brought to you, brought to us by the tribe and given weed and opioids and Netflix to make them retarded so that they're not people actually living up to their intellectual potential and doing those sorts of jobs.

And then when those people have been destroyed, lo and behold, like, oh, we need someone to do this job that requires a work ethic and 108 IQ. So we have to bring in a Chinese person. Like, no, you could have just found a white dude from freaking Kansas, but you got him addicted to weed when he was 12. So now he's a retard. I want to expand upon a point D.E. raised about like the Rosenbergs because this just goes to show the like level.

of decay we have in leadership because back in the Cold War, at least when you had like a white European political establishment, they at least had the common sense to erect certain immigration reforms that excluded at least communists, which were overwhelmingly represented by the tribe. But nowadays, though, you can't even do that because of the fact that you have

just a totally alien ruling class that is just going to resort to say, oh, we just need to like educate and convince these people about our values or whatever. The real simple answer is like, hell no. Like, this is our land from our European ancestors.

If you're not part of this overall stock, like, get the fuck out. Like, it's simple as you're not, like, invited. But we can't have these type of conversations and i would also add another point that um regards to like something a pete said um immigration whether it's illegal or illegal has multi-generational effects it's not just about like the immediate boost to like the GDP or whatever you could have

legit colonies of people that um for in like 30 to 40 years that could be tapped into by an external actor. I think in the Chinese case, they have like this United Front work department or something like that, this bureaucracy that is dedicated to tapping into the Chinese diaspora abroad from the U.S., even down to Panama countries like Panama, which have close like 3 to 5% of the population there is Chinese. And they do that for like outreach to embed themselves and project influence. And you even see this too in Europe with the so-called long arm of Ankara, how the Turkish government does the same type of outreach and influence projection there.

And these are migrant communities that have been there for generations. So like this is the problem why you can't cuck on the legal immigration issue either. Well, like, Italy got hit so hard by coronavirus because there's tens of hundreds of thousands of Chinese working in Italian factories in North Italy. Right. Because, you know, it's made in Italy by Chinese people, right? Mm-hmm. So all the luxury stuff. Well, just the generational thing.

I mean, look at UK. These, some of these rape gangs, these aren't like new. They're second and third generation. Yes. Yeah, 40 years. Yeah. What do you expect when you import, you're not importing people. You're importing a culture.

Exactly. And when you protect that culture and you say this culture needs to be able to live their culture out while you're destroying the native culture by bringing in people from another culture and saying this is the dominant, basically just saying this is the dominant culture now. This is the culture that need is if it's not going to be dominant, this is the only one that's allowed to be respected. And now you basically have people who are living in their ancestors land. And it's come and they, it is, I would probably say that to live in like, it's a live in one of those towns. What's one of those towns that were as fire, southern, what was one of Sutherland or I can't remember the name of it. I think that in Spain, yeah, in Spain under the Reconquista, the average Spanish person lived better under more rule there than the average English person is living in Great Britain right now. Excellent.

Absolutely. If you take out the city of London, England's, England's a third world country. Oh, yes, yes. if you remove city of London, which you've talked about, Pete, from their figures, England is poorer than Mississippi. Holy hand. Yeah, it's poorer than some second world countries, yeah, like Poland and whatnot. Yeah, I'm about to read that vassal state book about how England has been just completely

hollowed out by the Judeo-American Empire. Um, yeah, I really do think that people, um, need to start thinking about the multi-generational facets of mass migration in these debates. Because let's be brutally honest here. Like, let's look at the black population in the U.S. Like nobody is in a say of a straight face after like 400 years of like residing here that they've like assimilated to U.S. culture. And like this applies to a lot of alien cultures here that are coming. So we have to start being like brutally honest and have these uncomfortable conversations because we should not be sugarcoating this stuff any longer.

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I've been kind of taking notes during this conversation, just to stay on track. And I've come to some of the few things you said earlier, Jose, that I would like to address, and I'd like to dovetail them with Pete if I can keep my thoughts coherent here on my end. First, I'd like to say when you said the European stock that we have, we needed to keep, and we needed to keep it in power. Well, remember, it's written specifically for ourselves and our posterity. I mean, this was my family's nation. This was D's nation.

This was, like, it was peace. It was our, it was our nation. This was our people. And I also want to say, having worked in immigration, and this is something I'm touching on that you said also, Jose, like, I could tell you, like, not only is that necessary, I can give you the biggest reason it is, and this dovetails with pizza as well. Like, assimilation is a myth.

That doesn't happen. It really doesn't. You either conquer or you are conquered. You don't really assimilate. You don't just show up and say, hey, I'm going to do what everybody else does. That's not really a thing unless you're in small doses in small areas. And it's definitely not going to happen if you're in a place that quote unquote celebrates all cultural. equal. How is that going to work? What's there to assimilate to? What is the motivation to

assimilate? Like when my family, mindless consumerism. Right, exactly. When my family came on my father's side from Portugal, Italy, respectively. Like, there was nothing written in Portuguese. There's nothing written in Italian. It was English because that was the culture here. If you want to live here, then you have to be conquered. You have to assimilate, but really we're going to conquer you. If you come here, we're going to conquer you. You know, my family's like, hey, that's fine. I chose to live here, so I lose the war. They basically forfeit a cultural battle is what I'm trying to say in a succinct language that they have to come here. You have to forfeit a cultural battle. But instead, what have we done here? The best population has forfeited

the cultural, cultural battle, which is insane. Because once you forfeit the cultural battle, you forfeit the geography. It's just that easy. And in regards to your point, Jose, about coming to America and how you, about communism and things like that, I worked in immigration up till the year 2005. Okay, I understand it's getting further and further away every day.

So that's 19 years ago now. But that's still within every man's years lifetime. Like this is, it's not some ancient history that you wield me out of a hospice to talk about 90 years ago that I can vaguely remember. Like, this is literally 19 years ago. And I'm telling you, for a fact, I used to give citizenship tests with that very question on it.

Are you now or have you ever been part of the Communist Party? Like, that was there. And technically, that was an exclusionary thing that you could be excluded from citizenship for. Now, was I ever allowed to really exclude anybody for it? No. but was it still on the books? Absolutely.

But again, this relates to something D has said for quite some time at Pete and you and I and I, definitely myself. The problem isn't that we can't solve the problems. That is not the problem in America. And I know D will back me up vociferously on this. The problem is we aren't allowed to solve the problems. And this goes back to your point, too, Jose, that a lot of this is simply, no, you just can't come here.

That'll solve 40% of our problems. No, if you're from this country, you can't come here. That's it. Like, it's that easy. It isn't rocket science. It sounds difficult, but it isn't rocket science. That's it. So I just wanted to address all the points you gentlemen made.

Hopefully that was coherent what I was trying to say there for you, put them all together. I mean, you see the inverse, because it's really a question of political will. You see the inverse. The present occupation class is also exclusionary towards us. towards people like us like because they know um full well that if we get any semblance of power it's going to be tacitized in something that's going to see them get overthrown and all further down the line and it really a lot of politics boils down to um the ability to use exclusionary power and other uh forms of state power to ensure that usurpers are kept at bay and that's the thing it's not

a question that we don't have like the tools or whatever it's that we are legitimately being excluded through deplatforming and other mechanisms um from being engaged from being engaged in the political arena exactly right and just to touch something i brought up earlier there was a coup there was a coup the president of the united states was basically barred from running again by some intern in his office sending out a tweet and no one's talking about, you know, like right after the former president who probably won the 2020 election, you know, was, was a, you know, attempted to assassination with, but the obvious either incompetence or assistance of the Secret Service, um, that right after that, right,

the deep state basically said, we're getting rid of Joe Biden. And to bring up Jose, to dovetel with Jose's point here, the reason programs like this, and everything else that people are doing is so important is very simple. If you know about it, you can do something about it. And the vast, overwhelming infrastructure of media and information and everything, finance, it's all geared towards the Nurembergene regime against you learning about things because then you could organize in solidarity. you know, like Thomas always says, like the whole point of interim precarcym is to keep

conservative white people from being able to exercise political sovereignty. That's the point of the nerve group because the second conservative white people do anything that's, you know, mustache man and, and, you know, goose stepping and, you know, and you can see it. Like, um, Candice Owens was just talking to, um, not annotate, uh, his, brother, Tristan Tink. And they brought up Ursula Havaback without mentioning her name. And one of the things that Tristan brought up is like, why are all these people who were born in the 70s, or the 50s, judging Ursula Haviback for stuff that she says she saw with her own eyes?

Why, you know, the media will say to you, yeah, I know that you just got robbed by a black guy, but it's not the black people that's the problem. I just got beaten up and robbed by a black guy. I just watched Mexicans or Hispanics or mischizos or whatever cross the border carrying pounds of drugs. Why are you telling me what I'm seeing with my own eyes is a lie and if I talk about it, I'm a bigot? Because the second people can actually say, oh yeah, actually, it is, you know, this problem. it is it is black Americans who commit huge amounts of crime and are you know a friend of mine privately in conversation do you know why every baby in america has to have like goop put on their

eyes tucker carlinson just had a brother's sister couple talk about the health industry in the united states but every baby in america that's born gets like antibiotic ointment put on their eyes do you know why that is because 46% of black women have an STD and so every baby in America gets treated for this disease that most people don't have, but because there's one population that just can't not be filthy and disgusting and have diseases. Liberalism says we have to treat everybody the same, and we have to treat everyone like they're, you know, potentially have STDs. Like, well, what about all the boring married people who just don't fool around on

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It's that we're treating the hood rat like the married couple. That's the worst part. Like, we're giving the hood rat, the vote. We're giving them a say in society. We're giving them access to firearms because, you know, Second Amendment, you follow my point. you see where I'm going with that like that's that's what the worst part of it is to me it is it isn't necessary yes you're right it's crazy and it's goofy that we do what you're saying but what I'm saying it's worse that it goes the other direction what's that right yeah we like the second

amendment shouldn't apply to black people like just just like the founders intended sorry like you don't get guns because you guys don't like you can like okay tom soul and walter williams and kansas Owens and, you know, Alan Keyes. Okay, those like tics black people can have guns. Everyone else? No, sorry. You don't know. Allen Keyes.

I've heard that name in a while. That's a well-regulated militia that they're always saying we should have. And because that's what the Second Amendment says. It's like, okay, let's well-regulate the militia then. Only these people that show up for these things can get guns. Okay, let's do that. And then watch how quickly they don't want us to play by that ruling. Just watch how fast.

that's it. And to go back to kind of dovetail your point, Dee. Well, they do that with the franchise. Well, to kind of join Jose's and D's points together. Like, this is the real reason they don't want us to get any kind of foothole. As you said, Jose, why they really want to prevent us from any kind of foothole. And also why Thomas Triple Seven, you know, says the purpose of the Nuremberg regime. I think it's simply to go back to what you said, Dee. It's like, because they know everyone will be speaking English the instant they do.

They know everyone will be wearing suits. Everyone will be wearing Western clothes. Everyone will be doing Western things within 15 years. And I mean, I know people are listening going, we already do that. It's like, right, but I've just, it's an example. They know that our victory will be so total, so complete, so utter, that they just have to stop it before it even starts. They can't let the ball even start rolling because then it goes back to what you. you said, Dee, is that everyone will have to adopt what we have. They'll just have to. There will be

no other real, real workable alternative. If they want to enjoy any of the benefits of what we provide, it's just going to be that simple. Well, I wanted to, I thought Charles Haywood had a pretty good tweet today about immigration. Let's go back to that. He said, the migrants who ultimately overwhelmed Rome were nothing like the migrants overwhelming us. In some ways, most were superior to the Romans. The migrants-de-westing ruling class invites to invade us today are almost all the civilizational slop. That is the default state of the world for all of history, where even successful civilizations accomplish very little. If not for the West, that is. What succeeded and built upon the Romans, the entire globe would today live in the world of the 15th century, or more likely

of the 7th century and not the western version of either. What follows if Europe and America drown is, most likely, not some new synthesis that takes us to the stars, but nothing worthwhile, nothing that advances mankind in any way, perhaps for thousands of years or forever, given the exhaustion of easily extractable energy. This is the core reason all migrants must be expelled from America and our society remade, since just getting rid of them won't fix all the problems of our civilizational decay. Charles is one of the wisest men in the world. I can't disagree with anything there.

And, right, this is obvious. I mean, Charles is, Mr. Haywood, rather, is a very articulate man, and he's both insightful and successful, so I can't put it better than he can. But to just elaborate on that for a second, why did we give all of these people access to stuff that they didn't build themselves.

No one in Africa built a wheel sub-saharan Africa built a wheel until white people showed up. They didn't have writing. Do you know what's going to happen? I think I've talked about this in the past. There's three possibilities. We win.

I think that's probably the remotest chance. and we stop subsidizing them and they die by the hundreds of millions because they're not receiving Western subsidies anymore. We lose, and they all end up here, everywhere ends up being Africa and everyone dies because they're starving. Or the Chinese win and the Chinese stops subsidizing them and millions of people die. There's no, there's no future where, you know, what Steve Saylor calls the most important graph in the world,

where there's like 100 billion Africans in, you know, 2200. It's just not going to happen. We're going to run out of petroleum. We're going to run out of something. Some key component of that chain that enables that sort of thing to happen is going to run out. And once that, you know, once that little support is kicked out, the whole thing's going to fall apart like a jenga tower. So if you're just honest about these things,

it's like a feedback loop where you keep putting more energy in the system to make it more and more unstable. It's like watching it. You ever seen like a truck jackknife going down the highway, right? And the amplitude of the jackknife just gets worse and worse and worse and worse until the whole thing falls apart. We're just adding more energy to the swing instead of trying to correct it and trying to make it stop jackknifing and stop swinging back and forth and back and forth wider and wide. and wider kill, you know, a bunch of people are dead and the whole highway is destroyed. We're going to just keep adding, making things worse. If we don't do what Charles just said, if we don't stop making things worse,

be a liberalism and mass migration and perversion and everything else, then we're just making things worse. We're actively adding bads, as Hans Herman Hopper would say. We're producing baths as opposed to goods. Oh, I was just saying that and to speak to the piece you just read. I mean, think about that awful poem that we bolted to the side of the Statue of Liberty. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. You're tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. What does that describe?

That describes cattle, you know, tired, poor, hungry, huddled, mass that that describes cattle that doesn't describe people that you want here that describes at best a domesticated animal at worst just a herd of buffalo like that's not that that's not what you really want on your well and do they want to be free that's a good point do they I don't I don't think a lot of the ones they do they get now do I think maybe eons ago when you had people from Europe and I would and I would argue that like the reason the I saw somebody writing on Twitter a while ago. It's like, oh, well, what's the difference between the people coming now than all like the Italians and the Irish and all that? You mean their countries

weren't, you know, didn't suck back then or whatever? It's like, well, first off, we're talking about tremendously different populations biologically and culturally. But second off, you're talking about places like Spain and Portugal and Italy where a lot of these families have been in power for literally hundreds of years, like literal centuries. And it's like, well, they don't have a lot of upward mobility. That was, that's the problem with a lot of those places at the time. It wasn't that they were necessarily dysfunctional shitholes. It's that there was no upward mobility.

Where were you going to go? The Domenichies have been in power since the bubonic plague was raging. They still have power. And it's just like, well, yeah, why do you think a lot of these people came to America? It wasn't because their countries were dysfunctional shitholes. It was because, well, there's really nowhere to go up because everybody's already filled it. Have you recently purchased a new vehicle from Frankenen Volkswagen? If so, you may be at risk for an exciting condition known as New Car Joy.

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Thomas de Victoria and Giovanni de Palestrina, Victoria was Spanish and Palistrina was Italian. They're two Renaissance composers. It's the most beautiful music you'll ever hear in your life. So the Italians, even when they were poor, you know, and ruled by this oppressive oligarchy, you know, whatever you want to say, right? They produce greatness at a level that, like, never had. You can find a little tiny town in the middle of Italy and see, look at like people from such and such. And it'll be, you know, more contributions to world culture at some little tiny town in Italy than, you know, some whole.

countries have made. And to pretend that, you know, these are on the same level as, again, one of those just moral syphilish lies that we're just expected to swallow because it's convenient for our ruling elite. Like, no,

that's not true at all. Not true at all. Going forward, let's talk about this because we, you know, we do have an election this year. Thomas has been questioning whether it's even never, if it's ever going to happen.

I look at this election and I see, okay, if it does happen, I mean, I don't even, I don't know how one happens in 2028. I mean, depending on who wins. I mean, I just, that could take, this could take a whole episode. This could take a series of episodes of my thoughts on this. I was talking with somebody this morning. I don't have permissions to say who. everyone here would know who they would know who they are and I told them I said this is just if I know

that it's the trope this is the most important election of our lifetime but guess what I've never ever said that in my life ever never because I've always been very I don't know what's going to change you know you have seems like one both parties are the same side but it seems like at this time, if Kamala Harris, if the regime continues without being challenged, that we're headed for, I mean, destruction on many levels, okay, not only financial, societal, and if Trump wins, well, hopefully the people that are surrounding him, and I know there's a lot of people surrounding him, that I would rather not be surrounding him, but I don't get to make those decisions, I just get to decide, look and say, which one is better. And I see one side as an

existential threat to our existence. And I see the other side as, hey, maybe we have a shot. So, I mean, what is everybody thinking about this year? I mean, is Trump surrounded by Zionists? Absolutely. Okay. At this point, what's the other option? I mean, it's like, Thomas says, we're under occupation. Until the West breaks the power that they're being occupied from, there are things that we're just going

to have to deal with and there are things that are just going to be a given. So, do we have a shot if Trump wins and if Kamala wins? I mean, what happens? Well, I mean, a lot of what you're saying here, Pete, I'd mentioned...

The podcast from Gitmo are going to be lit. I mean, that's... If Kamala wins, we're all going to nail, man. Yeah. But a lot of what you're saying, Pete, is what I said earlier in the program. I said, I'm with you 100%, Pete. Yes, I know it's the trope. This is the most important election ever.

But as I said earlier, I think I used these exact words. This is the one time a blind squirrel found a nut. This is that one. And as you say, again, I mentioned earlier in the program. I used that log being dropped over the tumultuous river, metaphor like I don't think he's going to save but I do think as you say I'll use your words I do think if if we can get him in then at least we have a shot there there is at least a path open to us at that point that would be the phrase I would use at least at that point

there is a path open to us but yeah and as again as you say and as I've mentioned earlier in a much short a shorthand version of what you're saying I at the beginning Do I like who surrounds him? No, no, I don't. Do I like a lot of the people that he seek, whom he seeks counsel from? No, no, I do not. But again, like, he's the only log I have to drop over that river.

That's it. He's the only potential bridge I have to drop over that river. So I have to take it. I just have that. That's what I have. That's what I have to work with. And as you say, if he doesn't get it, I mean, it's done at that point.

What do I mean by done? I mean, that's, as you say, Pete, I'll use your words. That could take an entire episode and then some. I mean, I wouldn't honestly, Pete, we would have to sit down together and try and trying to an outline because I think we would all just be stumbling over ourselves, trying to even, we wouldn't know where to begin. It would be like the Keystone cops all trying to get through the three stooges, trying to get through the same door at once.

And I don't even mean us. I mean the ideas. The idea, we just wouldn't even know where to begin. Well, what's going to fail? Society. Well, that's already on its way out. The drug problem gets worse. The smuggling gets worse.

The economy gets worse. Like, where would we even begin? I honestly wouldn't even know where to start. And I'm not, I hate to sound catastrophizing. Like, oh, no, red team loses. Blue team is the end of the world. But again, the blind squirrel found a nut. Like, the blue team has been winning for a while now and nothing has gotten

better. Objectively, nothing has gotten better. Well, at least for honest people. I think criminals can say things have gotten a lot better. They're not getting prosecuted. But for honest people, I don't think there's anything by any metric. Am I wrong that this is an existential crisis if the regime in charge stays with the course with this woman who is just is going to be even more of a puppet than even, you know, weekend of Bernie's Biden has been. Never forget, Kamala Harris is literally married to a Jew. I mean, what?

I don't like Donald Trump. I'm probably not going to perform where I live. It doesn't matter. But for all those people who are like, oh, Harris will be better because Harris is a resentful, non-white person who hates you and will use every power of the federal government that she has. And some she'll invent you hunt us down and put us in jail.

100%. I'm not joking about the podcast from Selblock E being pretty based, because that's the choices. What's happening in England right now will absolutely happen to America under a Harris administration. She's a dumb prostitute. If I know, and I'm a provincial hit who's never really left my provincial hick town, if I know she's a prostitute, the Israelis know and have photos, MI6 knows and has photos, the Mossad knows, the Chinese know, the Russians know. You think the FSB doesn't have compromising pictures of Kamala Harris?

Pull the other one. It sings, it sings Dixie. D, to your point, come on. D, to your point, I would argue that, like, they don't even need compromising pictures. I'm just going to use your exact words. She's a prostitute. She doesn't care what pictures there are. They're not even necessary.

Just keep putting money in her pockets. I mean, forget me for being crass, but she's already literally sucked dick to get power. Like, you know that, Dee. You've talked about this on this very program before. She's literally sucked dick to get power. Like what? I mean, there's nothing necessary to compromise her. The check will be enough.

There is no morality there. There are no ethics there. There are no higher principles there. There's nothing. You don't need to blackmail it. I mean, you're probably right. Let me be abundantly clear. You're probably right, that there probably are those votes.

But I'm saying, I don't think they're even remotely necessary. It's wheels on a tomato. They're not even necessary. She literally sucked thick for power. What more do you need? Like, that's it. That's it. Jose, you got anything?

Yes. I think that this election will probably be one of the last elections where you will see any of like the formal trappings of liberalism. because I think that from here on out, you're going to see all these members of the ruling class just go fully mask off with blatant forms of tyranny against people on the right. I just think that the present order is incredibly unsustainable. They can't use the tools of yesteryear to quell dissent. They're just going to have to start using like really ham-fisted forms of hard power. And I would also add, like on that point you guys raised from Brandon Hayward that I just think that we're going to see this just total degradation of the U.S.

turning into this weird tower of babble, like idioticratic state that. it's just not going to be able to keep the lights on, to be honest. And I'm not the most enthusiastic Trump guy like I was in 2016, but it at least gives us some breathing room, like tactically for voting for him in 2024. But at this point, though, I've become more focused on, like, what for life like in like post-america if you will how we organize there that's going to be one of like the bigger debates in my opinion because i'm more um thinking in like in a reconquistimo

that we're going to be engaged in a very like protracted struggle in the long term and it will consist of us having to retake territory at like the local level and build from there but um I'm not really that fixated on like whether people vote for Trump or not, like some others or like some of the purity spiraling or whatever. Because I'm just focused on like a lot of other things like exposing interracial crime and really organized jury and also trying to organize at the local level. but I do agree that for those that are interested in preserving some semblance of civilization in the West, like, it makes sense, especially if you're living in a competitive state, like, in the Midwest, like if you're in Pennsylvania or whatever, that, like, Trump is, like, your last, like, lifeline, to be honest. and your vote actually will count there, whereas in other states, it might not be the case.

Yeah, no, I get that too. What I've been saying is that whichever side wins, you're going to want to concentrate locally and fortify some kind of locality, because if the regime side wins, that's obvious. if the other side wins and they are able to actually do anything, the plans that I've heard would be to drastically cut government. And if they were to do that, I mean, I know that I'm in fantasy land here right now, that would be, you'd be rolling back to local government as well. So the idea that we don't,

concentrate on some kind of reconquista from our local area at this point. I think no matter who wins, no matter who wins. And to just bring up something we were saying earlier, something I said on my substack this week is, we've been brainwashed and our minds are really diseased. And I said on my substack that we could get rid of whatever you're, Whatever your trouble group is, if you have multiple trouble groups, you could deport all of them and be back to Heritage America. And you're still going to have to deal with the fact that you've had a lifetime of this brainwashing, that it may take a couple generations to bridge yourself of.

because it, I mean, from sports, playing sports growing up and everything, it was like 90% of the game is between your ears. It's all between your ears. And between most people's ears, if you're not, if someone's not willing to step up and tell people what to do, because at this point, 95% even more need to just be told what to do, then you're, we're still, you can get rid of all these people and you still have. haven't dealt with the root problem that, yeah, here's something that I said this week. I said that propaganda from the right, I was listening to Cryptos on Jay Burden's podcast, and you're talking about how propaganda from the right doesn't work. And I was like, okay, let me think about that. And I thought about it.

When the right uses propaganda, sometimes they can get the right to agree with them, and they may get a couple leftists. When the left uses propaganda, it affects everyone. You know that whole thing about conservatism, being progressivism, driving the speed limit, 10 years down. The left throws propaganda out there,

and everyone eats it up. I'm going to quote something that you sent to the group, Pete. We make a great mistake in supposing that all people are capable of self-government. John C. Calhoun, America's one genuine political thinker. Show me the only political thinker. Show me a population other than white men who have the capacity for self-government. We've been running a continuous experiment in this country for 100 years about women voting

and for 60 about non-whites voting. Show me where it's worked. You can't. You can't. They're not. capable of self-government. Getting mad at women who not being capable of self-government is like getting mad at the dog when it pees on the carpet. That's just what they do. They're not capable of it. This idea that everyone is equally capable of self-government is just not true. Right. And in our whole project, the whole, I was thinking about this as we're approaching recording recording, right? The whole project of everything we do here and I'd recommend everyone give it listen to exit group, of how to fight the West that did a recent show, right? And he talks about how politics actually works in that

and how all these disparate actors beat the United States. Because right-wingeres in America, mostly white people, have all this bad programming that Pete mentioned, they don't understand how things actually work. And my whole project, coming on 15 years I've been doing this, is just to say.

stop lying to people about a couple of things in particular, but if you just aren't honest about the nature of race, the JQ, men and women, whatever, it's like trying to do physics without Newton's laws of motion. You're just going to be wrong. And if people don't understand them, if they don't, if the average right way or consistent, well, what about what Martin Luther King said? No, no one cares, man. Then the great Gregory Hood said, this and I think he's 100% correct, but black people want two things when it comes to politics. They want access to the public fist and they want crime to be legal, which is both just saying they want your stuff. That's the only thing black people want politically. That's it. Sometimes they

want it be illegal means. Sometimes they want it by illegal means, but they just want your stuff. They have no political program. They have no goals. They have no like wants. They just want your stuff. Well, I would, I would argue how is that any different? They want access to your women. I would argue how is that any different? Yeah. Women at least are, yeah, women are women are supposed to give you something in return. That's the fault of that. Right. Not to cut you off. I'm sorry. But I just wanted to make the point that I would argue that that's the same thing, that women basically want the same thing, access to your stuff. That's it. I would argue they only have one, they only have one desire politically, access to your stuff.

And I would say to your point, Pete, I think there's a black pill in what you're saying, because as you say, it's a tremendously large issue that we're facing. You have to go through generations of people to get the mindset back where it needs to be. But I would also say that it's for me personally, I look at that as more of a white pill. Like that's really not, yes, there's a lot of people that you need to do that with. But we've already learned COVID. know we've talked about this you have personally talked about this p that that COVID showed you just how much people just go in lockstep and do what they're told and how both of us were shocked at

all people we knew throughout our lives just fell right into whatever people told them to do so to me i look at it as a white pill it's like really our biggest problem after we get rid of a lot of these populations uh exile them is is we have to change mindset okay great like that that's not that big a deal i I watched people demand a vaccine card to go to McDonald's, just to go to McDonald's, because somebody told them to. Okay, so we'll just tell them to do what we want them to do. So maybe I'm being a bit flippant there, but I do think I do look at it as a white pill largely. Like that's not really, to me, that's not really a big deal.

And I do have a question for you, and it's a very sincere question. Because I wasn't there, I didn't hear it in the context. What did the individual mean when he said right-wing propaganda doesn't work? What was he referring to specifically as right-wing propaganda? I have a sincere question. Well, no, when you're crafting propaganda, when you're putting a narrative out there, he's basically saying how governments just go leftward.

So basically the only kind of propaganda that really works on the masses as government goes leftward is left-wing propaganda. Right-wing propaganda has just looked upon. as, well, that doesn't have anything. That's not what our zeitgeist is. That's not what's... This is just foreign to me. So if...

You know, so we do have some good right-wing propagandists out there, but how many of them are bringing people over from the left? Okay. No, they're mostly bringing people over from the right. But the left-wing propaganda that goes out there, regime propaganda, hits all of us. We all still, I mean, we're sitting here and there are still things inside ourselves, there are still impulses inside ourselves that we fight because we've been so propagandized.

It's like, yeah, well, that should be, and then we're going to change our mind on it sometime down the line and be like, shit, I can't believe. I'm a fucking moron forever believing that. And usually stuff like that is stuff that was just everything is propaganda. I mean, everything that comes, if it has, if it's in the public, it's propaganda. And we have to remember that. Everything we see is propaganda. And we believe it. I'm not saying that, you know, the Trump assassination was faked. But I mean, what were we sold? We were sold a certain story. Most people are going to believe that story no matter what. And if they do say, well, there's something fishy about it. They're not going to dive real deep into what might be

fishy about it or what the motives behind it are. And I mean, that's mostly coming from the regime. It's mostly coming from, you know, the first reports that came out that was, oh, Trump tripped and Nick Dezir, stuff like that. Right-wing propaganda really doesn't work. I mean, when you go back and you look at like propaganda from the 1930s in that country we're not supposed to talk about, it wasn't hard right-wing propaganda. It was kind of propaganda of propaganda of this group over here kind of stuff. And that's normally left-wing propaganda. This group over here is doing something to you.

And I mean, there's a very, the reason I think it was very successful was because it wasn't like standing up with this classic right-wing kind of message of, you know, hierarchy, this and that. No, these people are trying to take advantage of us. This group over here is trying to take advantage of us. These people are taking advantage of us. And what is that? A lot of people will say, that just sounds like leftism. Those people are just engaging in capitalism. So why are you, if they're just engaging in capitalism, what are you a socialist? maybe of a sort

that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to that's what I'm trying to explain understood thank you I was just curious as to what that meant that makes sense and to the extent that we have anything that works

what works on our side of things there's two things that work aesthetics and beams because they're not arguments right Thank you, Dee. Yeah, the right wants to make an argument. The right wants to show you, the right wants to show you how smart they are.

That's what they wanted it. They're like, oh, that's what Con Inc. is, right? Oh, if we just get, how can, look at the economic policy we have here. It's laid out perfectly. Read this. How could anybody deny this? Yeah. How can anybody deny it?

But no, when you do it, when you. Read this 50 page. Sorry, read this 50 page white paper was great. I'm sorry. I just love that. Like, yeah, that's going to work, bro. And I think I just would have jumped in on something you're saying. Just give every immigrant that. Yeah, right.

Give them the pamphlet on not to rape. That'll help. But yeah, like, I think you raise a good point because where our strengths lie, and this is what I wanted to raise. This is why before I wanted to say anything, I wanted thank you, Pete, for that. Because I wanted to do, that's why, before I said anything, I wanted to make sure of what point was being made so that I didn't mistake. mistake anybody and that was the propaganda issue and I think D you stepped on you

touched on exactly what I wanted to say which is I think the right wing strengths are aesthetics like I mean you're they're still talking about Nazi imagery almost almost a hundred years later 80 some years later they're still talking about hell they're still talking about Roman aesthetics I mean people don't realize architectural 20 500 years later yes I mean, they're still talking about Roman aesthetics. Like, you can't, like, that's why when I heard the thing right-wing propaganda doesn't work. I was like, hold on a second.

Am I having a stroke? Like, there are still people talking about the Roman Empire and Nazi Germany and the Spanish, not so much the Spanish fascist. But when they brought up, the Italian and the Spanish. But they still win. It's like, now I see. Well, Peridels sold a banger, dude. Yeah, right. But I'm not arguing.

But now I see the subtle differentiation will make it. But I think right-wing aesthetics are our biggest strength, like you say. And I think really the reason memes work is because true right-wing propaganda is wordless. You don't have to convince anybody of anything. They really know it already. To me, like right-wing propaganda is fairy tales and Grimm's fairy tales. Now, maybe this is the tabletop role player in me coming out. But as you say, D, I like your line.

It's one of the greatest, one of the three greatest, contributions of the United States to world culture. To me, fairy tales are the best right-wing propaganda ever. Here's what little girls should do. Here's what little boys should do. Here's what parents should do. Here's how you should behave. Like to me, that's the best right-wing propaganda ever. And to me, it's the most effective. Yeah, listen to your mother. You can get in the woods. Right, exactly. Yeah. And step-parents are very dangerous. You know what I mean? Be careful who you led into your house, you know, you really want to just have your biological mom, your biological dad. Again, like, go back and read these. I would humbly suggest people go back and read these.

To me, the best right-wing propaganda is all fairy tales because it's speaking to a human condition. And ironically, I would say they're more true than facts because facts are just a series of things that are easily, you know, easily mentioned, easily put out there and anybody can twist. But these things are nuanced. These things speak to the soul, the core of human existence, or at least Western European existence. So that's my take on that, gentlemen. I'll wrap up here with, I've got to get going, but I just want to put it a callback to Pete's excellent series on reading The Last Crusade by Warren Carroll. There's an incident in that book that brings good cheers every time I talk about it, so I'm going to have to struggle through this.

During the siege of the Al-Qasar, the colonel in charge, at the very beginning of the siege, the communists have his son. And they get on the phone, and they tell him, Colonel, we have your son. We're going to kill him if you don't surrender. And the Al-Qazars the Al-Qazar of Toledo is the traditional fort that oversaw-Talado. And the colonel in charge says, may I speak to my son? And they say, sure, he put him on the phone. He says, my son, I love you, commend your soul to God, die like a Spaniard, Viva Crystal Ray.

I think, I can't remember the exact, but that's basically, he knows his son is going to die. And the son knows that his father knows that he's going to die. And the son says, I will, father, give my love to brother. And then they kill him. That's not an argument. That's just truth. That's just honor. That's just glory.

That's just beauty and sacrifice. and everything good in the world wrapped up in one small little story. And I don't need to make arguments against people who beat up old ladies or rape little girls or stab little girls with knives or deal drugs or sexually perverse or any. I don't need to make arguments with those people. I'm not interested in arguing with those people about anything any longer. I want a good, decent society for people to live in where old people are. safe and where children can grow up to be good people.

And if you're against that, I'm against you. And I'm not interested in arguing anymore. There's nothing to argue about. You know, we live in an oligarchy that is now pretty nakedly out there. The president's not in charge. They try to kill people all the time. They're doing, you know, uh, uh, Pat was on with, or, I'm sorry, Pete was on on Mike Ferris and Mike Ferris just had an episode like a, you know, the U.S.

government does sex trafficking. The U.S. government deals drugs. I'm not interested in arguing with these people about anything. I want the bad things to stop, and I want the good things to happen. And there's nothing to argue with the communists about. There's nothing to argue with blacks about. There's nothing to argue with Chinese people about. You just got to go. This is my civilization, built by a white Christian people. And if you're not a white Christian person, then this isn't for you. Fuck off. We're full. Yeah.

Beautiful, Dee. Beautiful. If you have to get out of here, yeah. Thank you. Anybody else have anything? You know, we can wrap up here. It's kind of hard to top that story when it comes to the kind of existential crisis we're looking at and how, yeah, the hard decisions are going to have to be made. and, you know, the fight going ahead is, um, is not one that's going to be easy. And we really don't know what's left for us in the future. So, um, if you gentlemen want to, want to finish with anything, go right ahead.

I only want to say one thing to Dee's point and that's it. I think he said everything beautifully and there's not much more I can add to it. But I just say, I'll just say this. Arguments and debates are for the men on this panel and the listeners to this program to have amongst ourselves. Everybody else gets war and nothing less. Thank you for having me, Pete. Of course, Charles. What was that?

I wanted to go back to a point that Charles raised. And I think it's emblematic of like a theme of this show that the assimilate versus conquer dichotomy. Because I think that whenever we, when somebody uses the word assimilate, that is the telltale sign that this person has had their mind zonked by liberalism, ultimately. Conquer represents, in my opinion, a mindset of real politique, of politics, of like, of a primordial style of politics that we have to like start embracing. Because when we start thinking in a liberal, with liberal priors, we just end up becoming politically retarded, for lack of a better word, because of the simple fact that we, um, just imbibing this. the noxious substance of liberalism will just consign us to the dustbin of political irrelevance and eventual like vanquishment honestly.

And that's why I believe that it's very important that we have to go back to our primordial roots and start seeing politics as it is and not get ourselves entranced by the false god of liberalism. But yeah. Yeah, we need to start seeing the world as it is and work on changing what is and just looking at the world and going, well, it ought to be like this without having a genuine way to get there. You're just, it's just theory cell masturbation. It's just theory cell masturbation at this point. anyway, I'm going to end it.

I thank both of you gentlemen for joining me. Thank, thank Dee for showing up. And yeah, until the next time, just want to thank everybody for listening. Take care, guys. See you. God bless.