The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1108: Losing the Abortion and Immigration Wars w/ Dark Enlightenment

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

89 MinutesPG-13Pete invited his friend Dark Enlightenment to return to the show to talk about the ongoing abortion issue and how it ties into every political and social problem we are currently facing....DE's Telegram ChannelPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:02:59 I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. Dark Enlightenment returns. Seems like I talked to you a couple weeks ago, and I don't know if something happened. What's going on, man? Yeah, the optics fairies got to it. Well, for good reason. Yeah, that's... For a reason that we can excuse.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, well, no, that's okay. I mean, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. It's a congenital of keeping my mouth shut. So I suppose that's good for you folks that are out there that are entertained, but sometimes it's not a prudent thing. But I'm doing all right. And the intervening time has given me some time to reflect. And it's not quite in the news so much right now, but I know that there are a lot of pro-lifers out there who are, you know, sour on Trump. And where I live, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You know, he's going to win by 60, 70 percent no matter what. So I am free to vote third party and I'll find, you know, if the Constitution Party or American Freedom Party are on the ballot, I'll vote for them. And the thing that people need to understand is this is all about power. And you can't build a pro-life culture where abortion isn't a thing. until you're willing to use power to make it happen. And that was, you know, if you want me to dial down, you know, our previous discussion, pro-lifers, I love you. I'm one of you.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I've done the whole stand in front of the abortion clinic with the rosary for, you know, hours on end in the snow and in springtime. And I participated in 40 days for life in multiple states. I was from the pro-life club in college. You know, I've done the bit. I know people that, you know, were part of Operation Rescue. I wasn't quite old enough myself, but I know people that were, you know, veterans of it. I know people that lost everything.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And until you're willing to use power to make it happen so that pro-life becomes policy, you're going to lose. This is not, you know, Operation Rescue's great error was in thinking that, that you were, this was a civil rights movement. You know, you can link arms and stand in front of the, abortion clinics and seeing we shall overcome and justice will fall like rain and all the babies will be saved. And that's just not the truth. The truth is the Jews wanted the civil rights movement, so they got it. And the Jews want abortion, so they got it. You know, I have my differences with the Michael Jones, but when he says that, you know, this is all about, you know, a fundamental Jewish value of abortion, he's right. The people that brought us abortion, people that brought us
Starting point is 00:06:02 contraception, the people that bars pornography are all Jewish. So when you say it's not a part of our Judeo-Christian values to have abortion in this country. It's like, hold on. These are these are acronyms. They cannot be the same thing. Judeo-Christian is a fake made-up term that doesn't really mean anything. It's a post-war consensus term. You're not going to find that before the Second World War. Yeah, what it is is a Nuremberg regime approved term to denote that your Christianity is so toothless that you'll accept the constraints put on you by the Naird-Brucker. That's what it means.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah, I was having conversations with a conversation with my wife and a friend today. And I basically, I've gotten so frustrated with Christianity in general. I've like, you know, you're, you're driving. driving me away from this. And there's a reason why there have been long stretches in my life that I've stopped going to church. Because I can't stand to be around. Because we're supposed to come together as the body of Christ. And I don't want to be with these people. These people want to be martyrs and they want to die and they want their kids to die. They want their kids to be raped. They want their kids to be, you know, destroyed and cut up in the
Starting point is 00:07:36 the streets and they somehow think that that's something good. You know, you look at the way Christians are reacting to like Springfield, Springfield, Ohio or Albertville, Alabama. And, you know, you would think that, yeah, I mean, you know, what I, what I think when I see that is, I think of a book that I read on my show earlier this year called Camp of the Saints. Mm-hmm. And these are not, these are people who are not compatible. I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:08:07 As much as we say, you know, as much as we say, you know, Mexicans have to go back, you can talk to a Mexican. You can tell a Mexican turn the music down and they'll listen to you. Because there's something somewhat of the same, somewhat of a sliver of a cultural. Yeah, there's 60% Spaniards. So there's enough there that you can be like, hey. But you don't know, unless you've lived around Haitians, you don't know what the hell's going on here. And I lived in South Florida for 19 fucking years, and they're everywhere. And you don't go near these people.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Right. Well, and what do the Dominicans think? Oh, they shoot on site. Right. The only reason there's, the only reason there's anyone on Haiti left at all is the Dominicans know. that if they just went full ham and retook their entire island and drove the Haitians into the sea, that the U.S. Marines would show up and kill them. And the Dominican Republic's like chief act support is baseball players.
Starting point is 00:09:23 This is not, you know, I mean, right? This is not a, you know, particularly, what did I, what did I call them on thought comes to do that? A lot of white supremacists. That these are not people that, that are, you know, white. But there are dead chickens that have been sacrificed. to Satan all around highly of Florida. Don't go to. Well, that's even another group.
Starting point is 00:09:53 That's the Cubans that are into censoria. Right. So, I mean, in South Florida really is a cursed place. I was in South Florida last, not this past week, but the previous week. It's cursed. Yeah. You get in there and you want to get out as soon as possible. Well, because they've got demons everywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And this is the, this is the error that, pro-lifers make. I suppose we should, rather than, you know, we're 20 minutes into the call here, but we're specifically trying to talk about the abortion pro-life, anti-abortion pro-life movement in the context of the current political thing. And they're just wrong about everything. If their idea of every human being is equal and that everyone is, you know, if they, if they just get baptized, they'll all be.
Starting point is 00:10:48 upper middle class white Christians is not true. There are such things as generational spirits and that there is such a thing as being too dumb to grasp the creed. And Haitians will tell you they're Catholic on Sunday morning and go to Mass. And then they'll go home and sacrifice the chicken or your cat to a demon. And so the people that want to pretend, oh, these people are Catholics, they're revile. vital aids in our churches. No, they're not. They're there to grift off you. They're there to steal. There's no way the pro-life moment. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design.
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Starting point is 00:13:21 for your friends, which is what the pro-life movement has done for the last 30 years. Oh, we got to help all these single moms. Why? Are they the sort of people that go to church and are conservative? Or are they going to be, you know, on the public fisc their entire lives? Are they going to be public charges their entire lives? Are they going to stop behaving in way as to be a drain on the public fisc and lower the tone of society? No. Well, the abortion movement is racist. Mariah saying her was a racist.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Well, yeah. She was. Was she wrong? That's the question you have to ask yourself. Pro-life movement. Donald Trump is a very flawed man. There's a lot about him I don't like, and I probably won't vote for. But if you,
Starting point is 00:14:21 think that Kamala Harris, who's probably had multiple abortions, let's be honest, you know, isn't going to throw all of you in jail.
Starting point is 00:14:33 David Deliatton, the guy who proved that they're selling baby parts in California. Kamala Harris was AG when he was hemmed up. She tried to throw him in jail. You think that,
Starting point is 00:14:49 you know, the people who are saying, Kamala is a brat. Who do you think that's aimed at? Childless millennials, women, of which there's an extremely large contingent who are fanatics, demonically fanatical pro-abortion people. You think empowering them is going to be good? You know, the Biden regime went to pro-lifers' houses with guns and woke people up at, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:29 four in the morning, raiding their house. Do you not remember that? Am I the only one that remembers that? You know, the safe access to clinics acts or whatever it was, where one gentleman, the pro-life activist of, you know, eight kids or whatever, some dude who, you know, assaulted his son, so he pushed him out of the way. And all of a sudden, he's violating the safe act. So we got to show up at his house and the wee morning hours with, you know, eight FBI.
Starting point is 00:16:01 agents with guns. Scared his kids, half the death. Drag him off to jail. Put him through a trial. I think he got acquitted, thank God. But, you know. And when you win, you know, Donald Trump gave us the one thing that we needed.
Starting point is 00:16:24 That is, the federal Leviathan is no longer involved in abortion. Thank God. So now there's 50 different states that can all have their own policies. And the amount of pressure you would need to fix things in California or Illinois or whatever is so immense that it's never going to happen. But you can make Mississippi and Alabama and Idaho pro-life. So do that. And the fact that the pro-life movement didn't have 50 state operations ready to go with funding and people is an indictment of the pro-life movement. You got what she wanted for 50 years.
Starting point is 00:17:07 you've been saying Roe v. Wade has to go. Well, it went. It was a bad law. It was stupid. It was poorly written. It was engendered all kinds of ridiculousness from the federal bench. I mean, any of you actually read Planned Parenthood be Casey? It's, it's, you know, emanations and per numbers.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's woo talk fit for like a horoscope reading. It was issued from the federal bench. So we got what we wanted. And then you proceeded to rack up. L after L after L because you refuse to deal with the reality of Americans aren't very philosophically inclined and most people don't think very hard. So they're kind of icked out by like the idea of a six-month pregnant woman getting an abortion. But a three-month woman getting three-month woman getting an abortion is like,
Starting point is 00:17:56 well, you know, how can you tell? And instead of saying, okay, well, we'll get a, you know, 12-week ban in place across every state. and then work on everything else. We'll work on changing the culture so that people can get married and have kids and have jobs. I can tell you where people aren't going to have kids, where people are going to have more abortions, Silicon, Alabama and Springfield, Ohio,
Starting point is 00:18:34 because they're going to look at their car insurance bill that went up by 300%. And they're going to go, I can't afford anything. Most people aren't ideologically Christian. they don't show up to church every Sunday no matter what. They're kind of culturally Christian and a little bit indifferent. And if you want them to live in such a ways that they don't do things like murder babies,
Starting point is 00:18:55 you're going to have to provide them with some incentives to actually get themselves back to church and not destroy their society. You have to get some clerics out there that say, you know what, this is a white country, and white people deserve to have a country of their own. And having a constant stream of racial strangers and foreigners who aren't assimilated to our Republican way of life,
Starting point is 00:19:15 small our Republican way of life is a net drain on us and we shouldn't have to pay for it. But no. My ancestors have been to 300 years and I'm supposed to just be like, oh, okay. Someone who just got off the boat from Africa's
Starting point is 00:19:36 just as much as American as me. Nonsense. The one thing that I did I did find out today is that yeah, you know who is having a baby boom? Every Haitian woman in Springfield, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yep. Yeah. So 20,000 becomes, you know, 30,000 and 40,000, really quick. And yeah, what do you do? What, what do you do? You love your, you love your neighbor. You forgive your enemies. Yeah, there is such a thing, you know, Augustine wrote about just war theory.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And Augustine believed that the reason to go to war was to win peace. I mean, is Springfield, Ohio, and peace at peace right now? No. No. And, you know, God forgive me for this, but the guy who, you know, whose son guide, who, I wish my son had been killed by a six-year-old white man while wearing a sports cap of, you know, He and his wife are teachers at the local school. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah. Okay, well, he might want that. But in my opinion, he's too fat. And any man that would wear a baseball cap inside of a team of basketball, American ball, you know, after your son had been killed by one, like, you're not salvageable. You might not care about your kid dying. I care about my kids dying and I care about the kids of people I care about dying.
Starting point is 00:21:35 So you don't get to make that assessment for me. I care about little old ladies. And in fact, I'm going to stay here that I care more about the kids in the community than you do. Not often I can say that. But I for 100% care more about the kids in Springfield, Ohio, that went to his son's elementary school, than he does because he doesn't want them to be safe and I do. The, when you think about the abortion thing, it's the whole abortion history in this country, especially since Roe, you, you're not taking into account the fact that, well, it took the courts
Starting point is 00:22:37 to overturn it, what, 50 years later, when if every Christian in this country would have said no? I mean, I'm an elitist, I'm an elite theorist, but I understand what happens when an overwhelming majority of the population says no and says no continuously. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say online or in person.
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Starting point is 00:24:01 today. I mean, I know for a fact, I've seen in my life church-going people who go every Sunday as soon as their daughter got knocked up, taking them to the abortion
Starting point is 00:24:17 clinic. Of course. I've seen, yeah, this is not me making this up. I can give you the names, but I'm not going to, because, you know, why would I do that? And plus, I don't want to suit just for,
Starting point is 00:24:33 because everything's so litigious. The problem is you have to deal with reality as it is, right? To me, the only reason I'm still a Christian is is I believe that Jesus is the God of the copybook canings as well as everything else that he is. And when he said, I'm the way of the truth in life, he meant everything that's true is somehow contained in him. Because if we can't be honest about the fact that, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:25:06 50% approximately, what is it, 46% of black women have herpes simplex say, or whatever the sexually transmitted one, this. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's insane. Right. So, you, you can't make that population, like, sexually continent enough to not mean abortion. Or starving to death. Like, even, you know, in Europe, in, in, at the height of Christendom, women left their babies exposed because they were starving. That's, that's, that's one of the things that monasteries did is, you know, take in foundlings and they'd adopt them and they'd become brother so-and-so who didn't have, who never got married and never had kids, but was none of the
Starting point is 00:25:55 of the less allowed to live. You know, single mothers in Christendom would give the baby up, the baby to be born, you know, weaned, live in a monastery, become a, you know, brother-so-and-so, and the mother would take vows and become a nun. Right? And so people wouldn't be. And a lot of the time, you know, babies starve to death. And this is something that's awful and I don't like it. But that's nevertheless what happened. And people would have kids and those kids would die.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But the church's teaching on abortion doesn't, like all of a sudden make people, you know, snap, oh, we teach this. and all of a sudden people, you know, like 15-year-old kids aren't going to get horny because the church says that, no, that's not what, that's not what you have to deal with the reality, right? You know, with AI, a thing, is there going to be a single job available for anyone with an IQ below, I don't know, 120, 110? Where is the cutoff? Well, yeah, I mean, even the higher IQ libtards, what are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:27:30 what percentage of the New York Times is already written by Chapchap, GPD? Half, a third? I mean, you know, why would they, why would they even pay somebody to do slop like that? Put in a couple of keywords, the people who programmed it are already shitlib. So, you know, it's just going to spit out shit livery. Yeah. So if the pro-life movement is going to get serious. And this is advice from two guys.
Starting point is 00:28:06 you're pretty sympathetic to the pro-led movement. It's one of the three things we've won on in my lifetime, the other two being homeschooling and concealed carry rights. Those are the things that we acted like leftists on. Pete recently reissued both, like the complete series of our talk at Race War and High School of the book. And I keep talking about this book because this book blew my mind and it's changed my life in the two years since that, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:34 since I came on to talk about this. But the leftist always, always, always got something that they wanted and then came back for another bite at the apple. Over and over and over and over again until they got what they wanted. So the pro-life movement, rather than saying, all right, we're going to get a 12-week ban in every state, you know, a state-by-state basis. We're going to work really hard for that. And then we're going to work on, you know, maybe enforcing a, all doctors have to have, uh, admittance privileges at a local hospital, you know, so to make sure. that the doctors, you know, employed by plan, employed by plan parenthood are actually doctors.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So, you know, there's things you could do to move the ball forward. Football season started, so I can't help but use the metaphors, right? But no, like, unless we can get a touchdown immediately, we don't want to play. Well, while you're sitting there and arguing about, well, what's the best play, you know, We can do trick play to get, and then we'll fool everybody, or then we'll go to, no. Your opponents work for Satan, and they're okay, they're perfectly okay with three yards in a cloud of dust every day, every play. They'll import tens of millions of welfare-dependent people who might be against abortion
Starting point is 00:30:15 for cultural reasons, but they don't care about, they don't actually care enough to, you know, vote for somebody else on religious grounds because they get free stuff. and to them the free stuff is more important than abortion. So basically every non-white population in America thinks their free stuff is more important than dead babies. Period. Sometimes it's 70% of them think that. Sometimes it's 90% think that. Sometimes it's 60%.
Starting point is 00:30:56 But the vast majority of non-white people think their free shit is more important than dead babies. So unless you're against immigration, period, full stop, and for massive, massive repatriation, you're never getting rid of abortion. You have a highly dependent population that is sexually incontinent and can't make a living in America on their own because they lack the requisite IQ and ability to plan for the future. You might think I'm a racist for saying that, but those are just the facts. So if you want to build a pro-life America, you're going to have to make America white again. You're going to have to make America fiscally conservative again.
Starting point is 00:31:49 You're going to have to do things and use power to actually reward your friends and punish your enemies. When 17-year-old girls and 17-year-old boys do what 17-year-old children do, in 1957, There were jobs for that. You could be like, well, son, looks like you're getting married and getting a job. And he got married and he got a job. And I might have gotten divorced a few years later or whatever. But a lot of those folks actually just stayed married. But there's nothing to do for that 17-year-old kid to do right now.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Can you name a place where a 17-year-old kid get a job? I mean, you'd think maybe in the metal industry, but, you know, that kid just got replaced by a Haitian in Springfield, Ohio. Yeah, you're not going to get a 17-year-old white kid. I mean, that was, and this has been going on for a while because boomers won't retire. They, you know, and I'm really trying hard not to shit on boomers much anymore. But, you know, when you go and take jobs because it's like, oh, I need to keep working and you take the jobs that a 17 year old would normally take. And you're five times larger than any generation that's ever lived, well, teenagers aren't even going to be able to get jobs anymore because you're taking them all. Well, housing costs too much, so I need a job.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Why does housing cost too much? You only had two kids. Oh, right. The endless wave upon wave upon wave upon wave of immigration that have forced people further and further and further out and housing prices up and up and up and up. You know, the number one thing that keeps young people from having kids today is Uzeria's student loan debt and housing prices.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Do you want to be really pro-life? Take Harvard's endowment, pay off white kids student loans with it. And if they have a kid, give them $25,000. And you watch those, you know, Zoomer gals just have eight kids apiece. It's not complicated. We've set up all the incentives to be wrong. And the pro-life movement believes in the Nuremberg regime. And the Nuremberg regime exists to take people who are part of the
Starting point is 00:34:30 pro-life movement and politically disenfranchise them till they're dead. That's what the point of the neurobearing regime is. Until you understand that and accept that and deal with that, you're going to lose every single time. You can't make New York pro-life. You can't make California pro-life. Pretty soon you won't even be able to prove you pro-life in Texas, right? Because of the invasion.
Starting point is 00:35:05 what are you concrete going to do if you really believe that it's a sacrifice to Moloch and it's the most evil thing that anyone's ever done? I can make a pretty good case for that. What are you going to do in concrete steps that actually helps that stop? And I'm 100% pro-lifist. I'm an abolitionist. I'm one of those guys. I've done my time in front of the clinic. holding signs protesting and saying the rosary.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But I recognize that in order to stop this, I have to have power to do it. The people who agree with me and my friends need to be in a position where they can actually make a difference. Lila Rose pays herself a very generous salary off of live action. Look at their tax forms, right? They're pulling $2 million and all about $150,000 goes towards salaries.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So a lot of these pro-life national organizations raise money to raise money to raise money. They don't really do anything. They're pretty nice grifts as you get it. But Lila Rose. It's like politics. It's just another jobs program. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a jobs program for people.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah. Showbiz for ugly people, as people say. But you can't have a bunch of women who are against guns. and care really badly about poor George Floyd in charge of a poor life movement. I'm sorry, the world is a better place without George Floyd in it. That doesn't make me happy to say. I'm not like dancing on his grave or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:37:03 But if you don't think that the world is objectively a better place without George Floyd, or Michael Brown, or Tamir Rice, what's your name from Kentucky, you know, then you're just, wrong. I can't even remember. Right. I mean, there's so many, right? If you can't accept that these people's interests are 100% against yours. And, you know, you and I bandied in back and forth in private chats,
Starting point is 00:37:46 right? That one graph by alternative hypothesis, right? The lifetime negative impact of black people is like negative $830,000 per, like, that's how much they take out of the system. Right? And Hispanics is like 650 or whatever and white people is like positive 150,000. I can't remember over the lifetime. You can't build a pro-life society that has spare resources to take care of people and offer, you know, poor single moms who are 16 or 14 a chance to have their baby and get on with their life in a society that's overrun with people who aren't productive and vote for communism. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:38:39 I'm really mad at Donald Trump because he's not as pro-life as I want him to be. He got you the one thing that actually gives you a W in the last 50 years. I mean, were you... I've been to the march for life. Washington, D.C. is not like a, you know, cold northern city, but we could get pretty miserable in January. Were you just happier, like going and freezing in the rain and slushy snow of Washington, D.C.? Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area
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Starting point is 00:40:23 Okay, well, now that you've got it, what are you going to do? Well, we wanted to go to the March for Life. It's not a party. It's a political movement. You're trying to get something out of it. What are you going to do? You know, as a Catholic, it deserves me, but white evangelicals are the only reason we aren't living in a communist dystopia right now. So how about we build a build a society where white evangelicals hold political power and then everyone else gets to live in a decent place well i mean i know white evangelicals that talk about that and as soon as they talk about it other white evangelicals come after them and um you know accuse them of uh well basically
Starting point is 00:41:30 just regurgitate every nuremberg regime uh talking point to them and um you know every pejorative that has been against it in the last 80 years. Yeah, of course. And that's because these people,
Starting point is 00:41:46 their regime evangelicals as our friends at the Contra Mundum talk about. David French basically apostasized because he adopted a black girl and he got roasted on Twitter for it
Starting point is 00:42:03 of like, bro, what are you doing? this is a status symbol for you. You thought you'd be president because you went to Iraq as a lawyer and awarded yourself a bronze star. And you thought you were going to, you know, get to be senator or something. And it didn't work out for you. And you got made fun of viciously on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Rightfully so. And so now he's like writing from your time and how everyone that he used to be is like a horrible person. It's like, well, maybe so, David. But maybe they just understand the way the world actually works better than you do. It's ridiculous to think that a population that is already addicted to drugs and pornography and isn't productive. is just going to turn around and see the light on the evils of abortion on their own. Like, oh, you know, I was totally, you know, smoking a J on my way to my, you know, waged, low-wage job.
Starting point is 00:43:32 But then I saw a sign that said abortion equals murder and I totally changed my mind. It doesn't work like that. I mean, it is. What are you going to do with that person? to make them see the light. You can remove them from power. You could say, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:59 this little democracy thing, not really working. You can't talk now. Or are you going to just continue to let that person live their life and when they screw up, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:44:16 and then they have their baby and they do a bad job as a parent, you're going to go to the rescue center and give them all kinds of stuff and help them and then they're going to do it again and again and again and I'm not against you know pregnancy resource centers or anything like that I've given time and money to both those sorts of organizations but you have to deal with the real world you have to be honest
Starting point is 00:44:51 about what's actually happening and if you're not capable of doing that then politics isn't your game I'm sorry well we have everyone just acts like they're completely defeated, like that there's nothing that they can do. And then they're like, you know, they're always looking to somebody else. It's like you say, well, you know, you really have to,
Starting point is 00:45:30 you really have to, you know, get together with people, you know, people of like mind and, you know, oh, well, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Well, about fuck you. That's what I'm doing. So, my kite. Like maybe, maybe I don't talk about that publicly. Yeah. You know, you want to, you want to find out, you want to talk. Let's get face to face, leave our phones, you know, leave our phones somewhere and go for a walk. Yeah. But until then, fuck you. Right. You know, it's like, I mean, and we're not talking about, like, violence, like raising up, you know, raising up militias or anything like that. We're just talking about strategy. Why would you be, why would you be talking out loud about your strategy?
Starting point is 00:46:17 The only reason you want somebody else to talk out loud about their strategy is because you're talking out loud about your strategy that will never work. The only person who ever says, well, what are you doing? Are people who are doing things that are absolutely useless? I don't care. I mean, I don't care. I don't care what my former libertarian friends are doing and everything. If they want my advice on something, they can ask.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You know, I have no problem helping anyone. anyone as long as you're respectful as well is there no problem at all we'll fucking bend over backwards to help you and i can confirm that because pete's done the same for me like this is not but you know for a lot of these pro-life people and a lot of them are you know childless women in their 40s and 50s who you know were raised right and so they have this empathy for this sort of thing But, sweetheart, ma'am, I love you. You're a wonderful person. It's really good of you to care for these babies.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But until you can make the friend enemy distinction of like our enemies are not fit to wield power and they're going to commit abortion and you want to go jump on a grenade and save those, save our enemies, it's not going to work. it's just going to make more enemies. Okay? It pains me to say that. I genuinely feel bad. You know, I really genuinely don't like it. But it is true that until you have a regime in power
Starting point is 00:48:27 that does not care what the, you know, does not care about the Post-Dermberg consensus, right? You're always going to lose because any time you try and do anything, stop the abortion holocaust you're using your plan on the enemy's field they're going to beat you every single time because stopping abortion oh you must hate black people you're racist you're basically hip until you can break out of that frame and say yeah i mean he had some good points
Starting point is 00:49:14 had some bad points i wouldn't have invaded greece maybe you should have taken that six weeks instead of saving Mussolani should have driven from Moscow, but, you know, overall he was a pretty affected guy. Until you can actually discuss the world as it actually is, you're going to lose. And if you're a pro-lifer in Ohio,
Starting point is 00:49:48 and I think there was one, like, nice, sweet evangelical lady who was, you know, part of the pro-life Ohio movement, who, you know, over this October 7th, right, like the people who run pro-life Ohio, you know, were Jews and they got her fired. If you're a pro-lifer in Ohio, what's happening in Springfield should horrify you. Not because little kids are getting killed or cats get eaten or whatever, but because it's entrenching.
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Starting point is 00:51:23 You will lose in Springfield, Ohio for 50 years. if you don't get a handle on this and be honest about it. I can't show my face because the people who are listening to this who are hostile would destroy my life and starve my kids. If they're the sort of people that would destroy people's lives over a political disagreement, what makes you think you can reason with them? You think another argument about, you know, when a baby's insult matters to these people? It doesn't matter. No, not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk in the world.
Starting point is 00:52:30 but he debated some pro-abortion woman and went around on telegram and she's bringing up all these super super edge cases what about the 10-year-old or the 5-year-old that got pregnant and this did it did it did it did it did it did it to do and I hope you know what about these and there was not a factor
Starting point is 00:52:45 you know Charlie Kirkson or what about facts and logic you know he got the better of her in debate right but this is not a woman who's reachable with reason you just have to take away her franchise pat her on the head and put her at the kids table. Until you're willing to do that pro-life moment, you're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Until you want to say, look, ladies, if you want to vote, you've got to have at least two kids. You know who'd be in favor of that? Ann Coulter. And Coulter doesn't think women should vote. But if you want women to vote, you have to have two kids within marriage. You want public assistance.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You got to be married. you want government housing, you got to be married. Because right now, all the people who think abortion is great treat you, you, pro-lifers, they treat the men in your life's wallet like a pizza
Starting point is 00:53:57 that's been given to them for free that they get to cut up. And they fight over what's in your wallet. And they take it from you. And you're expected to just hand you over your wallet every April 15th. or quarterly if you're self-employed. Oh boy, that's a fun one, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:54:18 Pete. Right in both sides of social security for yourself and you know you're not going to get any. Yeah. It's about the driest laugh that I've ever heard from you. Ah. So, right? If you really want to build a pro-life culture in the United States of America,
Starting point is 00:54:43 you're going to have to get power and use it to boost the people that are pro-life. You have to change the culture. You have to destroy the local public school because that's just a cat lady factory. You're going to have to get it so that you're going to have to get your clergyman to a point where they don't advocate
Starting point is 00:55:08 civilizational suicide every Sunday in the public. We need a new welcome our new brothers and sisters from Congo or Guatemala or Haiti. You're going to have to do something that requires both the long game and pragmatic realism about where we're actually at. You're going to have to get rid of every Jew in any position of any kind of power whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You're going to have to stop posting Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro or Nat Hentoff or any of these people as like pro-lifers that you agree with. They don't. Abortion, as E. Michael Jones has pointed out, is a fundamental Jewish value. Because Talmudic Judaism is just Satanism. That's all it is. And anybody that wants to sit here, well, what about, no, they're not your friends.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You're going to have to listen to people like Andrew Torba and Andrew Isker and Stephen Wolfe and Corey Mahler and, you know, real, solid Christians who are dealing with the world as it actually is. Or you're going to lose. it pains me to be as brutal about this sort of thing as I am, but I got 20 years of doing this, or more, actually, and when you constantly seed the ground,
Starting point is 00:57:04 seed the frame to the enemy, and you allow the enemy to set the rules, you lose. That's the truth. I mean, you know, all pro-life bills will say, well, you know, abortion was illegal in all 13 colonies and was illegal in the United States, you know, everywhere up until,
Starting point is 00:57:23 such as such time. You know who was in charge then? White Christians. That's who was in charge. That's who wrote those laws. Those are the people who filled that society. You're not going to get those pro-life laws back until you make those people in charge again. Maybe not the majority population or the majority population, but they have to be the ones in power. You know, and you keep saying that, you know, you have to want power. That doesn't mean that you have to run for office.
Starting point is 00:57:56 That just means that you have to be, you may have to, you may have to, organize to have the right people run for office, to have your friends run for office. You know, I've said recently that I would, you know, I want to have like my friends in the, you know, in the Trump administration. And it's not because we agree on everything politically. It's because we're friends. I'll give me this perfect example. We share values. I'll give you a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:58:35 If one of our guys in your county is the county health inspector or the county public health department, and every second Tuesday of the month, they go by the local abortion clinic and they inspect the place top to bottom. How long do you think that place is going to remain open when they get a $300 fine for the slightest, you know, a pen being out of place for the wrong spot? if one of our guys is in charge at the county health department and oh hey look at that
Starting point is 00:59:14 we're not vaccing everybody in this county it's not a not a public health matter the cold is not an urgent public health matter but i'll tell you what isn't there's a public health matter making sure everybody who's at this clinic is properly licensed oh you're not properly licensed doctor abortion is so-and-so oh well you don't have admitting privileges with the local hospital I'm sorry, you can't practice here. Kermit Gossnell is a pretty awful horror story. For those of you who might remember it, he kept literally kept babies in pieces,
Starting point is 01:00:02 in jars and stuff. It was a black doctor in Philadelphia, not qualified remotely to be a physician. But that's all of these people. I mean, he was in a peculiar egregious case. But do you think, like, real good, competent physicians like
Starting point is 01:00:24 sign up to murder babies who does that evil people do that wicked people do that incompetent people do that you're not going to get you know cream with a crop from Harvard Medical School
Starting point is 01:00:39 or um John Hopkins or any any place like that to be abortionists so just make sure that they're they're you know inspected on a regular basis.
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Starting point is 01:02:21 Make it so that housing doesn't cost 10 times what it did. You know, Pete and I have talked about housing a lot. Maybe if people lived in coherent neighborhoods, and their neighbors were people that they went to church with and were of a similar ethnic background and they'd known each other for all their lives. Maybe they could, you know, mom could go to work for a couple, and the kids could go next door to people that were basically family. And they wouldn't need to have, you know, go to daycare with people that they don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Pro-life is a totality thing. It's not just a, oh, we're just against abortion. You have to have affordable family formation. You have to have housing that works for families. You have to have jobs in an economy that works for families. You have to have food that families can afford. I guarantee you that there are families that are desperate that have gotten abortions in the last two years because of food prices.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Think about that. In America, people have been driven to have murdered babies because food got so expensive. I just spent $200 on groceries today. I was late to this recording. For Suffet, it should have cost me $80 three years ago. You think that's not a pro-life issue? How is having more people come here who are completely dependent on taxpayer funds drive up rents because they're getting thousands of dollars from the government, get free food, get free health care, don't have to have car insurance,
Starting point is 01:04:35 don't get their houses inspected so that there's only, you know, one person per bedroom, but there's 20 people living in a three-bedroom house. How can a normal person compete with that? How much money would you have in your pocket, Pete? If I paid your rent, your grocery bill, your medical costs and for your transportation. Life would be good.
Starting point is 01:05:05 That's for sure. I mean, you'd have no major expenses left. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to build a pro-life regime in America, you're going to have to do things like, I don't know, pay for the young white people of America,
Starting point is 01:05:27 the young white people of Ohio, of Alabama, of wherever, give them. that largesse, instead of foreigners who hate you and will always, always, always vote against your interests. You know, the Trump campaign is here, oh, we're going to get a majority of black males. Bull. Absolutely not. You might get more.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You're not going to get the majority. Because the entire Democratic Party since 1965 or whatever since the 60s has been based off of giving them free stuff. Well, it shouldn't want. free stuff. If you read Thomas Soul, please, most black people in the inner city are illiterate. They don't care what Thomas Sowell has to say. They don't care what Walter Williams has to say. Well, well, if you listen to Alan Keyes' natural law argument against Barack Obama about gay marriage, he totally destroys him. Well, yeah, he did. It was embarrassing. But you think that the black people of Chicago
Starting point is 01:06:53 even know who Alan Keyes is or that they're capable of listening to a gay marriage? He totally destroy them. argument between two professors. They don't care. They're going to have to have pro-life policies imposed on them. They're on, what, generation four, five of total welfare dependence. They've never lived outside of government housing. They've never been to a doctor that they paid for. They've never bought their own groceries. And you're going to, you're going to make this person into an independent yeoman Republican who's pro-life over night by making an argument. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:07:50 I understand that abortion is a horrifying subject and it's awful to think about and it's fissually off-putting. I understand all of that. But emotion goes to the left. Because you can make the argument, what about the poor babies? But they can also always make an argument. What about the poor child who's been, you know, is eight years old and was raped by your father and is pregnant with triplets and doesn't speak English from Guatemala and
Starting point is 01:08:29 she came here from a boat from Africa. Like you could, they can always outdo you in that department. The left is based off emotion. You're always going to lose. And I keep repeating this because I want, listeners to this program probably know the score already. But when you're arguing with pro-life people in your life, keep hammering this. You will always lose if you don't deal with reality. And that's all I'm asking you to do.
Starting point is 01:09:01 As my friend Boiswe says, all I'm asking is that you engage with reality. And the reality is a lesson until you acknowledge that our society is structurally against, set up against the family, and in particular against white people having families. And until you rectify that, you're going to lose. So there's things you can do government policy-wise to fix these, but you need to be in power first before you do it. And until you're willing to actually exercise that power, so you're going to put your differences aside
Starting point is 01:09:56 and actually accomplish things, all you're doing is wasting your time and money. There are multiple people. I've talked to you on different podcasts who should be both vastly higher paid than they are, but should be running institutions. And they're not because they were foolish not to get in a podcast with me.
Starting point is 01:10:22 And I'm radioactive. Because I'm racist, fascist, homophobic, et cetera, et cetera. etc. You want to be a pro-life? Put Keanodas in charge of Cato Institute. Then, then, you know, we'll still some real pro-life policies happen. Put, you know, put Andrew Isker in a position to run a seminary. Put people who actually understand the way the world works in positions of power and influence. You know, put James Edwards in charge of Southern Baptist Convention. Then you'll see some real change. Until you're, willing to actually do it, all you're doing is mine. And if that's what you want to do, fine,
Starting point is 01:11:20 but you don't get to tell me what to do. And until you want to engage with reality, you're just talking. And those of us who actually want to accomplish something have a perfect right to tell you to be quiet. Yeah, I mean, the fact that more people aren't talking about, about how Springfield is basically a city that unless they just basically bring in bus after bus, after bus, and take these people to, I mean, moving 20,000 people isn't easy. But you can do it if you want to. unless you want to get them out of there, that city is basically now Porto Prince
Starting point is 01:12:27 in the Middle East, in the Midwest. Yeah. I mean, that's it. That town is gone. That town is now a Haitian town. And, you know, if you want to go down to South Florida and talk to, like, the Cubans, and the blacks, the American blacks.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You know what they, you know what both of those people have in common down there? Both of those groups have in common down there? They hate Haitians. They look at Haitians and they're like, what are they doing here? I mean, who allowed them to come in? And I don't want to make this all about one group,
Starting point is 01:13:18 but it is. I mean, you're literally talking about, The funniest thing that I saw this week, not funny, but Scott Adams. Scott Adams was upset because somebody contacted him and told him that the, you know, he's like, why are you lying to me and telling me the average IQ in Haiti is 62? And he's like, and he, you know, he does this Scott Adams thing. He goes, so I went to debunk them. And I said, there's no way that they're, they have an,
Starting point is 01:13:52 IQ of 70. It has to be, it has to be somewhere, you know, in a higher range. And he goes, and I found out that, or he said it has to be something different than like 70.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And he's like, I found out I was right. It was 62. That's barely, what do you do with that? Yeah. What do you do with that? I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:19 they're not, the interim police chief of Silacaga, who you can imagine, Imagine what he looks like. Somebody said he looks like a retired rapper. Has said he's not going to, he's not going to arrest any of these people because he can't communicate with them. He said in any of his police who do are going to be written up. And you think this isn't a plan?
Starting point is 01:14:47 You think this didn't, you think this happened by accident? These people hate you. They've took tens of thousands of millions of years. dollars extracted at the point of a gun and they brought these people here to destroy you and kill you. And even when you give them money, you know, speaking of South Florida, Tyreek Hill, star wide receiver for the Miami Dolbys, right? He gets out of a game like last Sunday, two Sundays ago maybe. He gets pulled over by bike cops because he was doing 120 in a 40 zone. and the bike cops, God bless me of these tough Latino guys.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And there, Emma rolled down the window because this window's superintendent. No, Emma roll down your window. I need to be able to see you, man. And you can watch the tape up on YouTube or wherever. This is a dude who is driving like at Lamborghini or some ridiculous like half a million dollar car. He's been given fame and fortune and everything that goes with it to go with the Queen's song. Right. And he and a coworker of his who got out of the car to almost start a fight with the cops over him getting arrested.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Callais Campbell, one of his teammates, instead of being like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have been doing 120 in a 40 phone or even a 60, like 120. but there's no road in America where you're not going at least 40 miles an hour over the speed limit. See, one and a half times the 80 miles an hour, which is probably the highest speed limit in America. There's no place in America where that isn't a massive ticket. A take your license away sort of ticket. And this guy proceeds to act a complete fool, act belligerent, and then get himself cuffed and arrested. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I think his house burned down. because he didn't have, you know, I'm pretty sure it's Tyreeks Hill's house to burn down. Pete, did you look that up? Because he didn't have proper smoke detectors. Right? Of course, right? The ceiling bird chirps.
Starting point is 01:17:43 This man has been given everything. Is he polite? Is he grateful? She like, man, I should be, you know, thank God for all these white people who love to watch football. They give me everything. I should be really, really grateful to them. No, he's a complete dirt bag. He's an entitled piece of crap.
Starting point is 01:18:16 And instead of wanting to live in a society where stuff like that doesn't happen, pro-lifers will say, well, but abortion disproportionately affects black people. We've got to stop it. It's racist. So what? Let's be honest with ourselves and say, yeah, you know what? the black American population not exactly known for their ability to live with others.
Starting point is 01:18:57 And that's caused untold amounts of abortion in this country, not just because the abortions that they get, but the nice middle class couple. They can only afford two kids to send a private school because they live near Atlanta, and they can't send their kids to Atlanta public schools because they die. And so that 35-year-old mom of two,
Starting point is 01:19:23 who works, you know, her birth control failed and she got an abortion because her and her husband can't afford another kid. And a little 17-year-old Janie, right, who was sexually assaulted by people that shouldn't have been around her in the first place, her mom and dad quietly take her to the abortion clinic because they know what color the baby is going to be and it's not the one that they wanted for their grandkid. I'm not saying this is good. I'm saying it's what's happened.
Starting point is 01:20:07 until pro-lifers can deal with the realities in front of their face and be honest that abortion is here. It was on a couple weeks ago with Great Tim Kelly, and he put it this way. In modesty and dress and feminism, which is a transgender movement, led to pornography, which led to abortion, or which led to contraception, which led to transgenderism. You have to reject all of it. And you have to be honest enough with yourself to do it. It's going to take a long time to reverse all these ill effects. It's going to take years of hard, patient work of rebuilding a culture that is actually capable of being pro-life. Our culture right now is not capable of being pro-life because we live in the degenerate society.
Starting point is 01:21:18 And until you want to do the hard work that it's going to take to change that, every time you give into the regime framing, you make it that much harder to change course. Make it impossible to change course. You know, I mean, when Donald Trump says, if Kamala Harris wins, Israel will be destroyed. Okay, well, you just gave me a good vision to vote Kamala. But if you're not willing to actually do that. deal with the reality, you're going to lose.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I got to button it up for tonight, man. I'm sorry with a delay, but, I mean, am I wrong? I'm pretty quiet. This has pretty much just been me ranting all night. No, I mean, it's, I mean, I'm at my wits end. It's like, you, people really need to start understanding now that they can't wait until
Starting point is 01:22:43 they have to start planning for this stuff now to happen in their area, especially if they live in a really nice area, especially if they live in a rural nice area. I mean, 20,000 Haitians in the span of 18 months, your town is gone. That's two divisions. That's like the 801st, you know. And one of the reasons I keep bringing that up,
Starting point is 01:23:15 and I brought that up. is because it's the same thing as the abortion thing. It's like you're just not going to do anything about it. You're not, you're just not. You're, if you're not willing to do it about that, what do you suppose, I mean, people are, people who have to leave, like the only place their family's ever lived. I mean, look at like, like, CJ Engel, like a sixth generation Californian and Andrew Isker, like a six-generation
Starting point is 01:23:45 Minnesotan, they're like leaving. Why? It's just, it's been taken over. I had to leave. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I mean, well, we're not going to
Starting point is 01:23:57 tell, say anything about what, from where and to where. I won't because. Yeah, but I, but yeah. Yeah. And you had to leave. You were from the greatest city
Starting point is 01:24:09 on the place of the planet. Yeah. Why, why, you, you know, and what we know circumstances otherwise.
Starting point is 01:24:20 But why couldn't you be peeped from Queens who took your, like, why weren't you able to get married from a to a girl down the block who you know in all your life? You went to the same parish. You went to the same high school that was, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:32 that girl next door, you'd get married, you live in an apartment, two blocks from where your folks lived. You went to the same church. There's 2,200 murders a year. Yeah. Because 2,200 murders a year. That's right. And until the people who in the pro-life movement accept the truth about the JQ, the reality of race, the reality of women not being fit to hold any kind of political power, and as long as they accept framing of the enemy, they will continue to lose continuously.
Starting point is 01:25:14 There's no way to win if you're playing by the enemy's rule. If you want a world where every child is welcomed, then you're going to have to work to disempower the Jews, repatriate all the immigrants, remove the franchise from women, period. And that's, you can like it or not, but that's what's going on. And until you're willing to be honest about that, babies will continue to get slaughtered by the tens of millions. You know, the Nuremberg regime supplied Stalin with 10,000 aircraft from Montana that flew all the way through Canada, all the way through Alaska, and all the way, like halfway around the world, like 10,000 miles. and enough material for 40 divisions from around through the Caucasus. Stalin himself says that they would have lost
Starting point is 01:26:32 without all the stuff that the Americans gave these people. No Stalin, no Mao, no Mao, no Ho Chi Minh, no Pol Pot, no one-child program in China that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions.
Starting point is 01:26:56 No No, no, uh, No J dominated America. No New Deal regime that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions. You know, this is a serious, serious thing where the people in charge effectively worship Satan and sacrifice babies to Molok for political power. Until you're willing to treat it like that and not an excuse to virtue signal,
Starting point is 01:27:29 you're going to lose. You have to reward your friends and be indifferent to your enemies. If New York wants to go to Satan, it pains me to say this. It's a beautiful city. I wish I'd gotten to see it when it was still something. But that's not my problem. I can't care about that.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I can care about my patchy dirt. The pro-life movement has to care about their people and only their people. Or they'll lose. Make sure every kid in your church can have three kids and then get back to me. about the poor benighted Haitian immigrants. I don't see why people think that they shouldn't be taking care of their own when they look around and every other group is taking care of their own. Why?
Starting point is 01:28:46 Just because somebody told you that white people are evil, why do you believe them? Why do you care? Why do you care what they have to say? The same people that have sacrificed 60 million American babies to Satan tell you you're evil for caring about you. your people as opposed to the people that sacrificed babies to Satan. Huh? Like, what? Kamala Harris is a prostitute who murders babies. She tries to the people who stop that, tries to throw them in jail.
Starting point is 01:29:21 She sells baby parts. Why do you care what anybody who's on her side of anything thinks about anything at all? Well, they call you racist. So what? Forty-six percent of black women have herpes. you think you're going to get them to stop behaving in a vulnerable way just because you told them that it was wrong. Haitian immigrants are driving with, they're killing old people by a little old lady who was just putting her trash out. By driving, just driving all over the road drunk at 10 a.m. You think you're going to breach that person with an argument? They have an IQ of 67. I'm not saying we should be pro.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Margaret Sangha was a goal. She was an evil person. She was a servant of the devil. Right. But when she says, oh, I want to kill. all the stupid people. You can't be like, well, I, I, we need to be very pro, pro the stupid people because that's the moral thing to do. Like, no, you need to be pro good people. And eventually they'll find a way to take care of the stupid people. But you can't, you know who, um, do you
Starting point is 01:30:50 know who the wealthiest person in Haiti is? Uh, I believe it's the one billionaire in the island who's Jewish. I can't remember his name. Gilbert, Gilbert Beezio, a Sephardic, from Aleppo in what is now Syria. Yep. Just like Heim Sabin, no, Haim Sabin, oh, Heim Sabin is Jewish.
Starting point is 01:31:15 The guy who owns New York Times is Carlos Slim. Carlos Slim is a Lebanese. I don't think he's Jewish, but he's, he's, of Syrian or Lebanese extraction. The entire,
Starting point is 01:31:35 elite in those countries is low trust, you know, gold chain race. And because they're not like, there's no, how are you going to find a guy to run the DMV with an IQ of 67? That's the average. Half or dumber than that. All right. Let's wrap. I got to get. Good night. I get some sleep. Yeah. No. Thank you, man. I'll make sure to, I'll make sure to link to your telegram chats and everything. And, yeah, thank you. Thank you. I mean, I know that we, we bounced around a little bit, but I hope people understand that all of these things are related, you know, and I brought up Augustine because Augustine said that Christians can go to war
Starting point is 01:32:24 when there's, with the intention to make peace, with the intention to bring order. I mean, and I'm not asking people to be violent. politics is war by other means. But if you look around and you think that we have peace and we have calm and we have order, then there's something wrong with you. And there's something equally wrong with you if you call yourself a Christian
Starting point is 01:33:03 and you think that somehow you martyring yourself and your kids and basically martyring, making the decision to martyr every other Christian in this country because, oh, we're not supposed to do anything. We lose down here. All our treasures stored up in heaven.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Well, again, it's one of the reasons why there have been long stretches in my life where I just avoided church. Not because I didn't believe in the doctrine. and not because I didn't, but because I just didn't want to be around the people. Just didn't want to be around these people. Pathetic. I mean, they're really, real pathetic.
Starting point is 01:33:56 That's it. That's what I got.

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