The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1116: The 'Robber Barons' Who Tried to Save America w/ Stormy Waters - Part 1

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

106 MinutesSome Strong LanguageStormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm.Stormy joins Pete for the first part of a look into what came to be known as The Business Plot.Stormy's Twitter AccountPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Stormy Waters is back. How you doing Stormy? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. How about yourself? Doing good. Doing good. So this is probably a little different than some of the appearances you've been making lately.

Yeah. How did you put it? You just put it right before we started it, right before I hit record. Let's talk about WASP history. And specifically, let's look for some heroes. in the past that some people may have overlooked as heroes. You've gone down that rabbit hole, right? Yes, I have.

As a member of this class that everyone seems to forget existed, I very much focus on, you know, kind of the better years of my people before we were, before we took our eye off the ball. What's really interesting, though, is that one specific group we're going to look at is, yeah, I think most people who would be listening to this would definitely think that they were villains. And they tried to do something. They tried to do something awful. And you'll be happy to know that I gave my lovely bride an overview of this today. And she's like, oh, what could have been?

Yes, what could have been? I bet you, like I've talked to a couple guys in our scene about this, and nobody has any idea that this happened. So what I hope to do with you Pete over, you know, probably, you know, this episode and maybe a couple others go through, the fascist America that could have been, and what was called, in the press at the time the business plot and it would probably surprise a lot of people that are listening to this that not only were there was put this way like they've all heard of like Charles Lindbergh in America First but there was a lot more to it than that and Charles Lindbergh didn't just up and get the idea of America first. America first was the second at bat, right? The plan B, so to speak, of unfortunately, probably the most villainized people in American history outside of, well,

in, you know, contemporary history outside of Adolf Hitler. Right. Like, you're supposed to hate, you know, Uncle Adolf and you're supposed to hate Mussolini. Yeah, that's correct. And you're supposed to hate guys like John Pierpott Morgan and David Rockefeller as villains. Right. These are robber barons. we're we're forced to like a lot of us come through at least some level of conspirator

land to get to where we are right like it takes a while going down all these different rabbit holes and you get to your final one that the final one you realize like who's really at the bottom of all of this and then you switch well some people will stay in conspirator land. And this is, like I view these are like the, um, the people that view that certain group is omnipotent and all knowing and that resistance is futile. Like, those are the conspirators that got to the bottom of the rabbit hole and didn't get the urge that people like me got or people like you got because they're like one or two things is going to happen. You're going to get to the bottom of that last rabbit hole. And you're either going to get real political, real fast,

or you're just going to stay down there and be useless. But the ones that decide to get real political real fast, they don't know it, but they take a lot of that with them. A lot of all of the other false rabbit holes that they were taught, like, or that they went down, and all the villainous deeds of John D. Rockefeller and all the villainous deeds of John Kempelor and all the villainous deeds of John Pierpont Morgan and it would surprise many of them that these great men saw what was happening in Germany and there's really no other way to put it. What these men witnessed was a miracle. Like up until that point, these men, I mean, there's going to be a lot of civil war hate and stuff and, you know, evil Yankee fucking carpetbagging industrialist bastard but their enemy is now your current current

enemy so maybe we can be a little forgiving as we go forward because these guys very much built this country like as we see that like those all of those you know huddled masses that the Statue of Liberty talks about all these peasant farmers from all over Europe. Like, these people barely knew how to read and write, but they weren't stupid. And we joke about how, oh, these people thought that, you know, the cities were paved with gold. Like, they're so stupid. But they don't understand what America was up until World War I, World War II. What America did from 1860, arguably to 1910, was create more wealth per capita, right?

So you can say whatever you want about the rich industrialists. They actually shared the wealth. Unlike our current elite, they built more wealth as a nation than any previous civilization in history. Right, whether you can add ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks, ancient Chinese, ancient Indians, whatever. Put them all together in a pot. Right. And they won't even fill up half of the glass that these men created in under 100 years. So when they saw the Great Depression, right,

and what it was doing to the country. And they looked across the ocean at what Hitler did in four years. These men thought it was a miracle. And guys like closet leftists, Anthony Sutton wrote books about, you know, how the Nazi government was just a creation of, you know, Rich Benkers and industrialists, just a puppet, you know, just like the communists were. And that's not the case at all. Guys like Henry Ford, guys like Jack Morgan, guys like, oh, I forget the guy's name that started IBM,

doesn't matter. And guys like Nelson Rockefeller, when they saw what Hitler was doing, it was a fucking miracle to them. Like he did something impossible. And they saw what the Soviet Union was doing and they're like, this is not the thing. So the business plot is the story of how these industrialists sent agents, personal representatives, to every single one of the fascist governments for years, for a year and a half. the one that Jack Morgan sent was operating out of Morgan and Hodges, which was the Paris affiliate, right, his Paris subsidiary, and sending reports back to Jack Morgan from Germany about how Hitler came to power,

how he was able to do what he did. and when they thought they learned enough, they went to recreate it. They wanted hear what they saw Hitler having there. And if it wasn't, and the other thing that pisses me off, like not only do we do we trash our own heroes because we've been trained to think that they were villains, but we laud our enemies. You know how many fucking stupid right-wingers

will hit me with Smedley Butler quotes, a fucking communist. The only reason you don't have a base fascist government in America because of that, that terrible, terrible human being and him betraying the men that put their faith in him. So, like, for instance, I'll read you a quote from the Morgan Library. is very interesting. Just to give you an idea of what could have been, and then I'll get into who these men were.

Right. So there were three, you know, on the ground guys that were all heads of various industry at one point in time or another, right? That went overseas and fought in World War I and came back, and now were the head of veterans, organizations inside the US after World War I that kind of organized around the what was called the bonus one right and two of those guys and mr. McGuire and mr.

Doyle were heads of the Massachusetts and New York veterans associations and it was the veterans associations that these guys as in like the guys higher up the food chain saw as the mechanism at which a fascist government could come to power. They saw it in Germany and they saw it in Italy and they saw how central the veterans were in the very beginning. So through emissaries like R.S. Clark, guys like Jack Morgan and his good friend Henry Ford and they were very close friends. In fact the largest or the most frequent contributor to letters to the editor and frequent penner of op-eds in the Dearborn Independent was one Jack Morgan. Ready for huge savings? Well mark your

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And that's J.P. Morgan's... Son. Yep. J.P. Morgan's son and after his death, the chairman of J.P. Morgan Chase and Company. And for those who are unaware of the Dearborn Independent, can you tell them what that was? The Dearborn Independent was Henry Ford's newspaper. So not only was it in We've always heard the stories that the newspaper was something that he printed as like a side project, you know, it was like a little thing a crazy old man did. And he had to stuff him in the glove compartment of every Ford car and truck to, you know, get it out there.

That's not the case. The reason that they were able to get such a wide circulation is because it was subscription based. It was basically like podcast and shit art today in substacks. It was like a vast majority of Dearborn independent newspapers went out via subscription. And it was the most read newspaper outside of the New York Times in Wall Street because, you know, those people were the enemy. And I mean, just finance in general was villainized. But anyways, you want to talk about Jewish power. The only place you were hearing about Jewish power was in the Dearborn Independent

and Father Cockman's radio show him. That was it. And the largest contributor outside of Henry Ford himself to that operation was the head of J.P. Morgan Chase and company. a guy that we often villainize. The second most frequent op-ed contributor was one John D. Rockefeller. Interesting, man. And his sons would continue the tradition. I'll get more into Anglo history later or lost history later, but another guy that's frequently villainized is Alan Dulles and his brother John Foster Dulles.

If I had to stack rank great Americans the last hundred years, 150 years, patent would be somewhere in the middle of that list. And guys like John Foster Dulles, he's probably one of the most brilliant statesmen of the United States has ever produced. And his brother, Alan Dulles. By the way, both of them were very high ups in the, um, trying to think was it was a Lutheran or Episcopal Church. I'm still getting the hang of Protestantism and the many denominations that, you know, make it up. But these men were not only fascist sympathizers, but they actively tried to create a fascist government and came within a cunt-hares

distance away from actually pulling it off. And if it wasn't Smetley Butler, you know, I guess staying true to the brokenness that's inside of a person to be a communist and him running to FDR and snitching on all these men, you probably would have one. And the two representatives of the two veterans organizations, John Doyle and Mr. McQuire, they wanted Smedley for the position. right so the way that they planned it never mind i'm gonna back up a little bit but you could have had a fascist government

and the people that you're taught to hate or just flat out think don't exist came inches away from achieving just that and there's virtually no history right outside of knowing that jp morgan is a bad man or john d rock brother was a bad man the history of America from the Civil War to World War I, like doesn't exist. It's not taught. So we became

the richest civilization in the history of the world. Nobody fucking talks about it. How did that happen? Who did it? It's been virtually erased. We'll start with J.P. Morgan, Jack's father. And then I'll go into some other people that you were probably taught to hate. What do you think? We start with Pierpont. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the most interesting men that ever live for damn sure. Yes, he was.

So John Pierpont Morgan was the great-grandson of Captain Jack Morgan. That's who Jack, his son, was named after. was probably one of the, I guess, most notable privateers after the Revolutionary War, saving countless white souls from enslavement on the Barbary Coast and the killer of many, many English sailors. you know him today you are familiar with this man or at least his likeness he is emblazoned on well the most popular rum bottle in the country john pierpont's morgan john pierpont morgan's granddad is that captain morgan yeah like literally a pirate well a privateer so john Morgan believed that he owed all of his success to America and he firmly believed it. And this is something our elites don't get.

So how do I put this? A lot of the things that we associate with nobility, the concept of noblese liege and duty, died in Europe about 200 years before they died in the United States. America was never supposed to have an aristocracy or like never had one, you know, officially. But that's what these men viewed themselves as. And if you have unlimited money, all the money in the world, right, and you never have to work a day in your life, and you can have anything you want whenever you want it, it on the surface to regular people that sounds like the best life ever. But it's not. It's hell.

It's very depressing life. It's a purposeless life. So the one thing that we know about men is that man needs purpose. He doesn't need sustenance. Like you can give him sustenance. You can give it. This is why communism never works. right? You're basically in a how does Thomas put it? You know, you're basically living in a prison slash retirement

community just waiting to die. That's what would have been these people's lives if they didn't search for meaning in other places. And the thing that

indexed the most with their soul was the nobility and aristocracy of Europe. And the traditions of the British aristocracy continued in America, far longer than they continued in England. These men lived their lives around duty and honor. I mean, one of the most famous quotes, I think, from J.P. Morgan, when asked if somebody could get a loan, you know, let me pull up the quote. It's really good. There we go. His quote about taxes is actually quite funny, too. Every American has the God-given right to evade taxes if he can get away with it. No citizen has a moral obligation to assist in maintaining his own government, unless by choice.

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I'm sorry, he can have all the collateral in Christendom and he won't get a dollar from me. The reporter goes, really? Not if he had all the collateral in the world, all the money in the world. And he goes, no, sir. The first thing is honor and the second thing was character. And he believed it. Everybody he dealt with, right, was basically on a handshake deal. Like there were contracts and stuff like for stock issuances and legal things, right, that had to be done.

But so much of, I guess you can call it Pierpont's diplomacy was done entirely on reputation. So to him, that was enough. And this is really the problem he had with a certain group of people that kept on trying to barge their way into American finance, particularly one group of them that were financed by a certain banking interest that tried desperately to get in and were relegated to stocks. Right. So being a stockbroker was not glamorous at all. Right. So being a stockbroker would be what we would have as an equivalent as like people that trade crypto, right? Like that's where sketchy people go. Right. That's like, you know, that's fly by night shit. Right. This is why the term speculator is an insult. Right. Like, oh, you know, these people don't care about anything. They're just speculators. That was basically how it was viewed, right? Banking was separate.

Banking was legacy-based. And the wasps desperately, like to the last, defended banking. So banking in America was something that your family had to be in the country for 800 years or to even get an apprenticeship in. Like you couldn't even be a courier. They were super, super strict about it because they viewed it as, they viewed finance, high finance,

as, you know, the aristocracy. That was the barrier. You either became a captain of industry, right? Or you became a partner at one of these firms. And back in the day, it wasn't like it is now with corporations these were all partnerships right so the only thing that operates similarly today is law firms all right so making partner is like you know you have made it right it will if you make partner at a

shitty firm then you haven't right but if you were like you know I'm trying to think What's a, you can't believe I'm blanking. There's a, you know, any one of the top 20 law firms in the country, if you make a partner at any one of those, you're set for life. Because now you get a share of all the money that that firm makes. Right. Like you basically get a stipend for life.

And that's how it was in banking. So being made a partner was like being knighted. in America. And this is why almost to a man, the WASP aristocracy was in Drexel Berner Lambert or Brown brothers or Morgan and company. A partner in any one of those banks could pick up the phone and get any senator online whenever you wanted to, right? Like, you were somebody at that point unfortunately it's not the same today but I I lost my train of oh yes I am JPM Morgan's Super Chad Adventures so not a lot of people will know this but the United States one of the reasons that the United States

has the reputation it has around its currency right everyone thinks that oh the dollar is the world reserve currency and is the number one currency of the world because of the U.S. military and if you don't use it, we'll just come fuck you up. Like that's true in the most extreme sense, but that's not why people want to use it. It's not like we're forcing everybody to get their money into dollars. Literally, you can, the one thing that you will notice about any impoverished country that you get into. They, like, if you give them a dollar, like, that shit is getting stuffed in their mattress. They view that dollar, you know, like it is made of gold.

Right. So, like, the thing in Russia, the thing in China, like, people hoard physical American currency, like their gold bars. because it basically is. And the reason I say that is because the United States of America is the only country in the history of the world that has never called in its currency. And what that means is, I mean, like England did this recently, Europe has done this, the EU has been alive for a whopping, you know, 30 years has already had to do it twice. France is fucking notorious for the shit. All right, like they will call in all of their notes and destroy them and issue you out new notes. All right.

It's basically a, you know, it's currency default. And the United States is the only nation in the history of the world to never have recalled its currency. There are even countries, you know, in the Middle Ages that had gold coins that would have to recall their currency. and you can dig a dollar out of the fucking ground in your backyard from 1799 and walk into a grocery store and buy something with it. Not that you can want to, but you could. It's also why America has never actually defaulted on its debt. It's come close twice. And technically it's come close three times, but people don't know about the third.

time. It's also why they don't know how fucking Chad JPM fucking Morgan is. But it's never actually done it. So America is the world's reserve currency because we are the most dependable when it comes to money. And it's that dependability knowing that it's always going to be there and a hundred or 200 or 300 or 300 years from now. Like that dollar you dug out of your backyard. That is why people all over the world, scramble to get their hands on physical dollars and you don't need to hold a gun to their head doesn't matter how many fucking missiles or aircraft carriers that you have

they're going to do it all themselves and in 1890 America was on the verge of going bankrupt like it was happening And if nothing was done and nothing could be done from inside the government, America was going to be bankrupt in less than six months. And what John Pierpont Morgan did was bailed the entire country out himself. He put every single thing he owned, every share of stock, everything.

him. He would have been homeless. And the guy had like fucking 12 homes and the first yacht, like the first mega yacht. The Corsair would have been gone too. He leveraged every single thing he had and he still didn't have enough. He was 12% short. Why was he doing it in the first place? Well, because he believed it was his duty. to do so. As a member of the unofficial aristocracy of America, these men believe that they had a duty to the nation. And so how we got that other 12% is really interesting. Because there was a whole bunch of people that at this point in time had made a fortune trading stocks.

you know, those people. And those people didn't want to chip in a fucking dollar. So, Beer Pond held them hostage. He lured them all. All the Saturday people bankers onto his yacht, the Corsair, full lunch. And they're going to do a cruise around New York Harbor.

But shortly after they, pulled off, they didn't go anywhere near the harbor, they just went straight out into the ocean. And about two hours later, now land very, very, very far away, Pierpont comes upstairs from a State Room and says, all right, one of two things is going to happen. A is you gentlemen are going to voluntarily come up between the, you know, at the point there's six of them, the six of you are going to come up with the other 12 percent to bail out the United States alongside my 90 percent or sorry, like my 88 percent. And if you don't want to do that, all of my money is liquid right now, right?

collateralized everything that I own, right? Basically borrowing against everything that he owned, which he reminded them, right? These margin loans were extended by the by the brokerage firms that were sitting around the table from him at that very moment. So he was like, all right, guys, I've leveraged everything I own and you guys have been nice enough to extend me, right? Several multiples on that in credit. So if you don't help me bail out the United States government, I will take my 3x net worth that's all liquid. And I will have the captain radio my man on the shore who will in turn tell my man at the stock exchange to begin shorting your stocks and I will have bankrupted every single one of you by the time you ever get

into port to warn anybody about it and yes the country will go out of business we'll go bankrupt and so will all of you but I'll have no one to pay these margin loans back to because you'll I'll be out of business and then I'll made all that money shorting your stock all the way down to zero. So I'm going to get my money to bail out the government one way or the other. It's either whether you want to cooperate with me or you want to be put out of business by me and then me taking that money from putting you out of business and using that to bail out the government and having to put up none of my own. And what do you know? All of a sudden,

a bunch of immigrants got real patriotic real fucking quick. And that's why the U.S. has never defaulted on its debt. Thanks to the evil bad man J.B. Morgan Chase. Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebag. Unwind in our luxurious spa. Save her sumptuous farm-fresh dining. Relax in our exquisite accommodations. Step outside and be captivated by the Wild Atlantic Surounds. Your five-star getaway, where every detail is designed with you in mind. Give the gift of a unique experience this Christmas with vouchers from Trump Dunbeg.

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Well, you know, somebody's going to jump. Somebody's going to jump in and say, you know, he, he was one of the planners of the Federal Reserve, things like that. The Federal Reserve is actually a brilliant system. If you keep the currency pegged to gold, the Federal Reserve system was built to stop what arguably has caused every single financial crash we've had. The Federal Reserve wasn't supposed to be omnipitude. It was supposed to be feudal in nature. Now the Federal Reserve is a monolith. The New York Fed and all of the other little tiny feds are a joke.

It may as well just be the New York Fed and one interest rate for the whole country. Well, that's not how it was laid out. A farmer in Iowa was never, ever supposed to be. be paying the same interest as a stockbroker on Wall Street. It became that way after FBR. So the Federal Reserve System that everyone and every stupid libertarian has been trained to hate worked an awful lot like how one Frederick List imagined such an institution working. It's not supposed to be monolithic. It was supposed to be decentralized and offer decentralized interest rates.

The only reason you've had the catastrophes we've had is because you're forcing a farmer in Iowa to pay the same cost of capital as a stockbroker in New York City. But there's a lot of things that Roosevelt destroyed. And this fascist coup, which we'll get into next time that was, you know, ruined by one communist general that everyone loves to lionize and a stupid faggot book, war is a racket. Now it's not a racket. This is, it's communist logic again. All right. We adopt the left.

The left's framing has been embedded so deeply into our paradigms that even though we, even though we. think ourselves right-wingers we mouth their platitudes war has nothing to do with money-making if money is made during war okay all right but that's not what drives men to war has nothing to do with it now this is like that uh rothschild or omnipotent type fucking people same thing politicians drag people to war not bankers and you'll also be surprised that the number one policy plank of this fascist takeover and also of america first which was bankroll in its entirety by jack morgan by henry ford by the dupont family and by by our good, good friends, the Rockefellers.

The number one issue was keeping America on the gold standard. And why would a bunch of evil bankers, if they're so evil, be campaigning to keep us on the gold standard? Why would, if everything that you believed is true about J.P. Morgan, about the Federal Reserve, and about all that, you would think that would be the last thing that they would walk, right? Because yeah, you know, Federal Reserve, and then we got FIox monies. And they took the gold away.

Who took the gold away? Who did it? FDR did. The fucking class traitor, FDR. The entire new deal, these guys viewed as a slow role communist takeover. purging of the power base of the WASP class. Let's look at what came out of the New Deal government. In rapid secession, the first term was the SEC Act and Glass-Steagull.

I'm not going to go into the intricacies of the banking business and what the banking business was at the time, but if you know that the LOSP aristocracy was the American banking industry, then you, like them, saw this as a direct attack against their class. All of that, that whole war is a racket and that whole money trust bullshit was actually in typical fashion created in its entirety by. by one Randolph Hearst. And who was that lovely gentleman that paid off all of Winston Churchill's debts? Bernard Baruch.

Who was Bernard Baruch a representative of? Rothschild and Company. So the guys that put the new dealers into power, roughly at the exact same time as they were pulling off a communist revolution in Russia, the very first thing that these men did, once they got into, if you can call them that, once they got into power, was attacked the WASP aristocracy. In fact, the biggest critics of FDR were the Roosevelt family. Like the level of class trader and family trader that FDR is, is barely understood.

And like, who are these men? Right. You and I got into a Twitter argument recently with a, I guess, a pastor. I guess he is a preacher of the day. dispensationalist kind. And you threw an insult at him that I didn't understand, but it seemed that it really pissed him off about the high church and low church. Are we talking about like pop-up churches,

like these, you know, kind of like they look like Walmart super centers almost? The empty space next to the circle, K? Yeah. That kind of thing, yeah. All right, so not those churches. The churches that are actually built of like granite, you know, and bricks, the permanent churches, the ones that look like fucking churches and cathedrals. Three quarters of those churches across the country were built by John D. Rockefeller because he felt it was his duty. all of those literally every public library in the fucking country was built by

Andrew Carnegie the reason that the reason that life sucks to the way it does today in this in the particular way that it does is because these men have been erased right we know only their bad they're demonized just like Uncle A is demonized and their stories have been erased So these men had nothing but history to turn to, right? There was no existing aristocracy that taught these men how to be noble. I mean, what was in England at the, you know, the 1800s was a joke, especially the latter half of the 1800s, a fucking joke.

So these men turned to history books. And they modeled themselves and their families. off of the nobility, you know, that made the nobility famous. And the reason why are elites today, right, why are Elon Musk's, why are Jeff Bezos's, well, forget the fucking Jewish billionaires. I'm not talking about them. The reason they don't act like these men is because they don't know these men existed outside of just, you know, the shibbolets you're allowed. Right.

Elon Musk is never going to be like J.P. Morgan because if you were to tell him that he's being like J.P. Morgan, he'd probably think you're insulting him. Like everything Elon Musk does, cool, he's doing great stuff. But he's also doing business. Oh, he's sending him, you know, people to space. Yeah. But he's also doing that because he wants people himself. to go into space.

John D. Rockefeller didn't build 2,000 churches, real churches. For any other reason, then he felt that it was his duty. Andrew Carnegie didn't build every fucking public library in this country because he thought Americans should read good. Because he thought it was his duty, that that wealth came with a debt, that he owed it to someone. The reason that Grand Central Station is probably one of the years and years and years and years went into the designing of the acoustics of Grand Central Station.

And there are places in Grand Central Station where you can stand in a corner. Grand Central Pete you've been to Grand Central Station. It's pretty fucking big, right? Many times. It's enormous. And yeah, I've done what you're talking about. Yeah.

Yeah, you can go into one, he can go into one side of Grand Central Station. And I can go into the other side. And I can whisper. I can stand in a corner. And I can whisper. And if Pete is also standing in the corner,

even though he's on the other side, of the fucking place. You can hear everywhere I'm saying like I'm standing right next to him. Even though there's fucking hundreds of thousands of people marching through that place at the same time, making a fuck ton of noise. Just the acoustic properties makes that building one of the most impressive buildings made in the last 200 years. Why does a peacock shimmer blue and green?

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And not to mention, Pete, for those of the listeners that haven't been to Grand Central Station, is Grand Central Station beautiful. it's it's unbelievable it's yeah it's one of those things that stupid people okay let's say one of those people one of those things that uncultured people will be like oh why do you even build something like this oh there's a reason you build something like that it's the same reason that you build you know that you build these gigantic churches you see these churches in europe that are to the sky and they take people's breath away because some people love God and one who and one

who glorify him and others hate you and that's the difference that's the difference between architecture today and architecture in the past the people that built grand central station not only had their train car their own train cars but they had their own station outside of christening the building, they never walked inside of it again. They wanted it that way. They wanted it to be beautiful because they thought Americans while commuting all over the country deserved to be in a place that was beautiful. And Elon Musk and Mark And Driesen,

as much good as these men are doing, Peter Thiel is doing. I don't see them doing that. I don't see anybody, any of our mega billionaires doing that because none of our mega billionaires think it's their duty. Cool. You get to go to space because I want to go to space. So you get to, you know, pitch a ride on their already selfish pursuits. They're cool pursuits. Don't get me wrong. But These men didn't operate that way. Every single orphanage in New England was bankrupted in its entirety by either church, which did the Catholic ones. But all of the Protestant ones were bankrolled by one of these men through whatever that local church was.

Piermont Morgan gave the equivalent of 70, million dollars a year just to the orphanages the reason that we have beautiful concert halls is because these men build them only maybe going inside once a year the reason that we have beautiful art museums was because these men build them the reason we have beautiful museums period like the metropolitan museum is beautiful it's one of the most beautiful buildings in new york city And these guys built it for free out of their pocket for you to enjoy because they felt it was their duty. And how did a bunch of bankers get involved in a veterans movement after World War I? Well, because it was their duty.

Every, I don't know how to describe the level of shame that a family would have if all of their sons of age did not go fight in whatever fight that America was in. And I'm not talking about like what George W. Bush did going out in the Air National Guard. Right. Like one third of the class of Harvard and Yale and Princeton got wiped the fuck out. None of those men, none of those young men would have had to fight if they didn't want to. every single one of them could have called their senator that their dad put into office and gotten them a commission like FDR did. FDR was a figure just like George W. Bush

doing the Air National Guard routine. America's Air Force in World War I was the Aviation Club of Yale, Harvard, and Princeton, as in like aviation was in its earliest earliest days and was basically I don't know like a fad but it was the cool and exciting thing to do right if you were a young man this the second in command at J.P. Morton and company. I'm trying to remember his name. But his son became a paralegic because he was in the aviation club and they were doing an air show. And the planes at that time usually had two motors, one in the front, one of the back. And the motor in the back came loose and struck this young man in the head

and he was paralyzed from the waist down. He still went on to be a, you know, a fucking Chad. All right. But if you were a young man of privilege, you were into racing cars or flying planes. And the Air Force that America had in World War I were these men leaving school, right?

They took a year off or two years off, however many years they needed off. Like they were in university, right? And temporarily dropped out and donated their planes to the, American government and their bodies. And I think something like 20% came on, maybe. I don't see anybody, any, any senator's son going to fight today. I don't see any of Bill Gates's kids. He's got a bunch. He's got five. I don't see any of these people that think that they're

aristocrats. We think they are America's aristocracy, right, because of money. I don't see any of them sending their kids to fighting any of America's wars. It's kind of a joke that we all say. Like, how come Dick Jane these kids, right? How come none of these warlongers are sending their sons? And the reason that America is in as many wars as it is in is because precisely that this class of people were disenfranchised. They were the casualty of the New Deal government. The New Deal government was basically an attempt by Jews and by very willing participants and co-teal. conspirators in the English financial industry, right? And they were specifically targeted, right? Bernard Baruch and Randall Hurst concocted one of like the first really good sciops

called the money trust scandal. And it wasn't a scandal at all. It was entirely a media creation And these great men were dragged in front of Congress and harangued again and again and again by two Jewish congressmen who both turned out later to be members of the Communist Party. And the person bankrolling them and the person providing the air cover in the press, one Bernard Baruch, the man who's largely, responsible not only for Winston Churchill, what happened in Germany in the Second World War, right? But the first attack on the Anglo-American aristocracy, all because we wouldn't let them in the banking industry. Right? Like John Morgan's number one rival in the world was Yaakov Rothschild. He sent

Rothschild sent four separate different proxies, one of them John Belmond, and Pierpont sent them back penniless each and every time. And it wasn't until they saw their success with the communist movement, or the Bolsheviks. Did they really start getting politically aggressive? And everybody remembers, well, some of you may remember. remember, not remember, right? Some of you may have come across it in history. Pete, maybe you've talked about this, but the anarchist bombings and the communist bombings

in America at the turn of the century. Are you talking about the Haymarket Affair and things like that? Yep. One of the biggest bombs by a communist of pale settlement descent. Actually, all of the bombs. New York were all set off on Wall Street and all funny enough happened to be in front of one bank Morgan & Company so all of the communists you know that we're going to bring down the evil capitalists all just wanted to bring down one specific capitalist so much so that after the bombs

didn't work this is when this is during the lead-up to the coup attempt. All right, this is a, I think, 29, 28. But a communist armed with two pistols shot the gate guard at Jack Morgan's home and shot the butler that answered the door and rounded up Jack's wife and two daughters. The sons, his sons were away at school and brought them into a back room.

He's by the, by this time Jack Morgan figured out what was happening. He was in the study and ran up to the back bedroom where this man was hiding with his two children and his wife. And he said that he just wanted, you know, to talk to him to get Basically to get America to stop being mean to the Soviet Union. Why does a peacock shimmer blue and green? Why are flamingos pink? How do creatures use color to attract, impress, and survive? Discover the answers at the Wild Collidoscope at Dublin Zoo's Wild Lights,

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It killed five people at J.P. Morgan. Yeah, this was in the 20s. Let me check. I think it was 28. Wall Street bombing. Yep, 1920. And it was a good guess, Pete. That was a good guess.

But, yeah, this gentleman said that he just wanted to talk and that Mr. Morgan was able to make the American government do whatever he wanted. So he was going to basically do diplomacy by hostage. And Jack rushed him, beat the man into a coma while taking two revolver shots in one to the stomach and one into the inside of his thigh, almost died. But the good thing about being rich is you have a doctor that usually either lives in your property or a... or close by. And this happened in 1915, July 3rd. Yes.

I'm looking that up right now. Yes. And the gentleman that did it, I believe, correctly from wrong, was a crypto. His name was Eric Muntler? Yeah, well, he was under three different names. Yeah. He was teaching at Harvard as a, as a professor for a while.

Yeah. Graduated University of Chicago, University of Kansas, began teaching as an instructor at Harvard University where he was a doctoral student. Yeah. Yeah. Now, it was,

he was a quote unquote German saboteur who went under the name of Frank Holt. I love my fellow, he was a, Jack was a big dude, right? He was 6-2. Actually, both Morgans were 6-3 and 6-2. All right, so they were not small dudes.

But yeah, so only, which is funny enough because you had, what's his name, how am I gonna, I can't believe I'm blanking, he was the guy that funded a majority of the communist revolution. How am I pointing at his name? Jacob Schiff. Jacob Schiff, there you go. Shift and company.

Jacob's Schiff lived right next door. Oh, it's actually shift just like the shift that we, the Perma Bear shift that we have to deal with today. I wonder if they're related. I'll look that up real quick. Keep going. That would be very, very interesting to know. And for those of you who don't know what we are talking, about the communist revolution was funded in its entirety by two people um yacob rothschild and mr jacob

shift and we who is actually you that that educated me on this but a majority of the bolsheviks were actually from like brooklyn well when um when trotsky left new york he got on a boat and I think he had 30 men with him. Someone fact check me on that. I'm sure somebody will. They always do. And they all made it to Russia. And they were all, yes, of a certain tribe.

That's really funny. And Trotsky got, correct him wrong, but Trotsky got stopped in Canada by a Canadian police. Yep, and because of, you know, who controlled the crown at the time, he was released and let go. Yep, with $100,000. He was apprehended with $100,000 in cash. Yep. I also think he had, I think he had diamonds too.

Oh, what is that in 1910? So what is that, 100,000? Yeah, it's rather interesting when you started. really getting into it. Yeah, so basically he had the equivalent of three and a half million dollars on his person. And the Bolsheviks didn't come to power through revolutionary prowess. They're actually incredibly disorganized a bunch of fucking retards. But with that $100,000, they bought every single newspaper in Russia or in Moscow.

And that's really where any communist clout came from. And so when wrong, by the way, just to just to clear this up, Peter Schiff is not related to Jacob Schiff. Oh. Jacob Schiff's dad, Peter Schiff's dad, Erwin Schiff, who was a tax protester who died in prison in 2015. His parents emigrated here from Poland around 19, 30.

So, okay. Oh, thanks. I'm so glad they joined us. I'm so glad they came to America. That's funny. So in Trotsky's memoirs, he talks about his exile from Russia the first time. Right. So Lenin and Trotsky were both rounded up. by the Oscecha.

Is that home saying? Am I saying quickly? I think that's how it's pronounced. I'm terrible. I think anyone who's listened to my reading, so I'm terrible at pronouncing foreign words. Same. Same.

So they got rounded up and thrown out of Russia once. And then they were basically airdropped in a second time, which is the time that Pete and I are talking about. But there was a space of about eight years in between those two. All right. And where are these guys, they chose to hang out in Germany briefly, got booted out of Germany. And then they went to Switzerland for a little bit, got booted out of Switzerland. And after that, they kind of go dark for like five years.

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And Trotsky in his memoirs talks about his time in Newport, Rhode Island. staying at what he called the magician's house. And the magician would take him around him and his daughters in for automobile rides all over the city, all over, you know, Providence and then also to the magician's house in Long Island. and the magician would go, you know, into the city. And Trotsky says he's like, the magician controlled all the wheels of finance and capital. And, you know, with his, with a move of his hand, all the wheels of industry would move one way,

with another wheel of his hand or another wave of his hand, all the wheels of capital would move the other way, you know. And basically described this man as like a magician slash chauffeur. that would drive him and his daughters around places. That man was Jacob Schiff. So the reason nobody could find these communist stumbags is because arguably the, you know, three of the top five were just men on the planet

that were not royalty of some, of some, you know, respects. We're hiding them to use later as a weapon. just like the new dealers were used as a weapon against a similar entrenched aristocracy that they wanted to remove and Roosevelt was really a compromise all right like I said including his own family nobody suspected what FDR would become what he would do like The Roosevelt family, they weren't in banking that much. But if you go back and look at the newspapers of the time, hold on.

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they were basically put on a shelf to be used later Yeah as weapons just like the progressives were Used as web or not the progressives the New Dealers were used as weapons against an entrenched Erosocracy you were like all the all of the All of the legislation that came out of the new deals the new dealers first terms It is an attack Like there's

very hard to see it any other way. And if you look at who was doing it, because he needed help in Congress, it was the same Saturday folks that were dragging Jack and his dad before his dad passed in front of Congress for hearing after hearing about the fake money trust scandal. It was Randolph Hurst

and actually here, Let me find out the commission the I'll get it to you after the show what the congressman's name was it was two of them that were on the committee oh and um yes I remember it was a young Lewis Brandeis Lus Brandeis Huh that's huh wonder what church he went to something of Satan I think Lewis Brande would communicate with FDR and the only place that I've really found this mention is both in the Dearborn Independent and in the Morgan Library and in some of the some of the he's calling the the memoirs or biographies of the John Foster Dulles and shit really anyways

This was kind of like an open secret that Lewis Brandeis was giving basically marching orders through Messenger, his daughter, who, all right, let me see him and pull it up. Louis Brandeis. Wow. How is like, how is their daughter like nowhere in here? Susan and Susan or Elizabeth I believe it was Susan Can you see who they're married to? I will check right now

One of them is going to be married to a very important new dealer Susan Brandeis Gilbert Oh wait a minute Hold on Susan Brandeis Jacob Gilbert Elizabeth Brande Joseph Gilbert Joseph Gilbert

Jacob H. Gilbert. American lawyer who served six terms as a U.S. Senator, or sorry, a U.S. House of Representatives member. Jacob H. Gilbert. Yeah, this guy served six terms in Congress. And I said he was a big deal in the new dealers. And William Brandeis, scroll back, over here, in 1890, began to question his views on American industrialism. He became aware of the growing number of giant companies,

which were capable of dominating whole industries. And he began to lose faith in the whole American capitalist economic system. right and its ability to regulate and it's sorry and its need to be regulated for the public's welfare as a result he denounced cutthroat competition and worried about monopolies he also became concerned about the plight of workers and was very sympathetic to the labor movement oh really crusader for justice martin oh i have to look at that later His earlier battles had convinced him that concentrated economic power could have a negative effect on a free society. Wow.

Yeah. So Brandeis was then in the Supreme Court. They had four or five, yeah, the money trust. They had four or five guys in prominent positions. in the Congress. And I can't remember who the senators were. But you've got the president, you got the Supreme Court, and you got the Senate. Brandeis was often referred to by the people as the people's lawyer.

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Oh, okay. It was called the Poo-Ho Committee, P-U-J-O. P-U-J-O. Named after Arsaint-Polene Pujo for Louisiana. Oh, why does this guy's name always come up? Samuel Untermeier. Yeah. You know what else Samuel Intermeier's responsible for?

What? The Schofield Bible. No-uh. Keep the fuck out of here. Yeah. Yes. Then there was Hubert D. Stevens of Mississippi. Yeah.

Oh, if you just Google Samuel Untermeier, pull up his Wikipedia page, there is a whole bunch of political caricatures of Mr. J.P. Morgan. Yep. Wow. He went after every single one.

Wow. Oh, and in case anybody was wondering what the early life is on Mr. Untermeier, it's what you think. Yep. And what he never talks about is who his law firms' clients were. Hmm. He was later, after World War I, he became a top advisor. Why is a lawyer and advisor to the Treasury Department. He's responsible for the income tax. It's very interesting. Corporate lawyer, advocate of stock market regulation, government ownership of railroads, various legal reforms.

He was an exponent of the progressive era. He became an advocate of stock market regulations, government ownership of railroads, and various legal reforms. He was also the first attorney to own a million dollars to earn a million dollars on a single case. I bet he was. Untermeyer also identified early as a Zionist and served as president of the Karen Hassad, the agency which the movement was then and is still conducted in America. How about this? K-E-R-E-N-H-A-Y-E-S-O-D.

In 1933-3, he founded the non-sectarian anti-Zion or anti-Nazi League in 1933. Oh, I wonder what the, the non-sectarian anti-Nazi League, right, changed its mission to directly investigate. right-wing propaganda groups. Amongst them were the Christian front of Father Coughlin. Non-sectarian anti-Nazi League. Its mission was to directly investigate right-wing propaganda groups. Among them were the Christian front of Father Coughlin. The Christian mobilizers of Joseph McWilliams.

I'm going to check that out. The America First Party. and this group, this anti-Nazi league, also began to support the civil rights movement. We are so shocked. Yeah. And it filed its first lawsuit in 1945 against Columbia University to have its tax exempt status revoked for discriminating against who?

Jews. Which is really interesting because that's where his son grew. graduated from. I wouldn't doubt it. It was also instrumental in shutting down hate-based groups in Atlanta, Georgia by hiring Stetson Kennedy, William Stetson Kennedy, to infiltrate these groups. The League continued its investigation to expose activities throughout the 1950s, providing the FBI with intelligence about such right-wing needs.

neo-Nazi groups is National Resistance Party. Oh, wasn't that the party? That's National Renaissance Party. Sorry, National Renaissance Party, yeah? Yeah, Kurt Mettig. Yeah, and also, isn't that the one that, what's his name? The painter, Rockwell. George Lincoln Rockwell?

I'm not sure that he had, I'm not sure he had anything to do with this. I will look, though. Yep. Well, it says the party also endorsed standard racist ideas as a, it maintained ties with other groups, including George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party. Yeah, it turns out this, this organization, the non-secular, the non-sectarian anti-Zionistly, when it shut down was right. It seems to just not get shut down at all, but folded in to the ADL. I guess that's where they kept their really tight relationship with the FBI. Wow, we're doing research live, folks. Listen to this one. The National Renaissance, which, unlike its political activities in New York, was widely influential in right-wing

circles in the early 1950s, H. Keith Thompson and Frederick Weiss subsidized a larger-than-usual print run of an issue of the magazine containing an essay by Francis Parker Yaki. entitled, What is Behind the Hanging of the Eleven Jews in Prague on the Prague show trials of Rudolf Slansky and 10 other Jewish members of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, which Yaqui had attended. Eustace Mullins, who Martin A. Lee called the NRP's self-proclaimed expert on the U.S. Federal Reserve published his notorious article, Adolf Hitler, an appreciation in the journal as well. They were investigated by Hughak for possible prosecution under the Smith Act and no additional action was taken.

Yeah, I guess that's what happens when communists try and bring something to fucking Joseph McCarthy. Probably not going to look into it. Oh, God. Yeah. The Lewis Dima bits, the gentleman that, uh, the gentleman that, uh, that married Brandeis' daughters? Yes. Yeah.

Turns out he started the conservative Judaism movement. Oh, well, that, I mean, that's just to teach us good Judeo, to teach us good Judeo Christian values, right? This Black Friday,

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Roosevelt administration then goes and gets extremely active in conservative politics afterwards. I'm sure that was by accident. I'm sure it was. I'm sure he was 100%. Yeah, and probably

went into the wrong building. This is unreal. I didn't even know that part. Right. Like Lewis Brandeis made his career off of going after John Pierpont Morgan and the Morgan family and the Rockefeller family and the DuPont family

and it seems that his progeny was, you know, after they crushed the real American right wing, they inserted themselves into conservative politics at the same time as they're driving left-wind politics. It's almost like they're doing something. Yeah. You could do a whole show on just Louis Brandeis. Oh, 100%.

Yeah. Dems versus United States. Wow, dude, this guy is unreal. doing it's amazing to watch uh i guess it's amazing to watch us do research in real time huh his final years of his career like the rest of the court he initially commanded the undermyr was um untermire was responsible for like getting like moody moody bible college to um pushing that moody bible college would take and start using the um The Schofield study bubble.

And you have to wonder, why would, why would a Jew be so interested in that? I wonder. And the entire time as this dude is passing messages to FDR, he is openly saying that he's against the new dealers. Wasn't Louis Brandeis? Wasn't, yeah, Louis Brandeis was the guy. right that leaned on FDR to get who is that crazy secretary of state that he put in there

that wanted to basically genocide all the Germans Oh, um, Morgenthau. Henry Morgenthau, yeah. Morgenthau. Yep. Wow, Henry Morgenthau came out of the same fucking law firm. I mean, wow, all at the same time. They kill.

I mean, I got credit. where credit is due is impressive right they're taking over the left they're completely disenfranchising and chate and like a like a face hugger taking over the american right at the same time as i bet you father coflin scared the shit out of them oh you want to hear something even something that i'm finding here on the pooh the pooh the poohsho committee okay so the resolution that was picked up by Congressman Pujo was introduced for a probe of Wall Street power by Charles Lindbergh Senior. Can you imagine that he probably did this thinking there might be a problem here.

We need to investigate it. Then all of these people take it, run with his idea, and just take it to destroy. you know, these men who are trying to keep America a certain way. And do you think maybe he learned by that and he taught his son maybe? Or maybe his son learned something by that? I think so. And funny enough, it was actually, not a lot of people know this,

but I heard Thomas say it once on your show that, that the bankers and industrialists, they didn't actually want war. They didn't like go start wars for money. Right. And there's a lot of truth to that because in the Morgan archives, right? They basically communicated a lot of bankers did this like Rothschild had their own secret code. Everybody had their own like secret code.

So only until very recently did a lot of these banks open up their archives. Right? They were obsessive about saving correspondence. But in the archives, here, let me pull it up. In line notes, too, yeah. Wow. So in the run-up to World War I, William Randolph Hearst and his bestest friends in the papers, right after they got in the run-up to World War I, William Randolph-Hurse and his bestest friends, in the papers, right after they got, in the run-up to World War I, World War I was when all this money trust stuff started and the Pujo Committee started, basically kind of made it toxic to be associated with kind of lost Wall Street politically. But during World War I, right when it initially started, it was actually Morgan and

company that tried to stop World War I by clandestinely trying to stop the fighting between Turkey and the Baltic states in 1912. All right. They, they, the only, the only, really tool he had was to offer large loans to both sides in exchange to agree to US mediation to kind of catch the conflict when it was in its early stages. Because war is terrible to banking, right? Like what banking wants is stability, right? Banking wants everything to continue as, you know, it is going.

Especially when you're banking at that level when you're making huge loans to like German industry, British industry, like if you were a big company like that's been in business as long as Krupp has, right, that has got a whole bunch of government contracts and get great government relationships, the same as like a lot of the British arms companies or the British shipping companies those are very safe companies to you know to give loans to those countries those companies are going to be able to pay them off so the idea of one nation full of companies that you have that you lent money to trying to blow up another country full of companies that you lent money to like how does this benefit bankers like yes maybe they made some money in like the u. in

investing in the U.S. companies that were making arms and making other things. But these men already own those fucking companies. Anyways, so they, this clandestine diplomacy was happening out of the same office in Paris, Morgan and Hedges that will later come back to in the businessman's plot. Right. So the, it was run by the head of Morgan, the head partner at Morgan, Morgan and Hodges and the US ambassador to France, Myron Herrick. And Myron got both of these nations to sit down,

or both of their ambassadors to sit down while the Morgan and Hodges partner with a letter from Pierpont was like, hey, here's a gigantic loan that you guys don't really have to pay off if you both, you know, just agree to US mediation. and unfortunately they didn't bite but there's no reason for that to even have happened if jp morgan wanted fucking world war one like it doesn't make any sense yeah anyways obviously they side the brits once the world but they were kind of forced to choose at that point

they had way more loans to England than they did to Germany. I think this is right about the time we should probably wrap up and prepare for part two. Yeah, then we'll get into the actual committee. Because luckily enough, the Senate did a investigatory committee into this attempted fascist coup. So it leaves us with a lot of first-hand evidence. So lucky us. It's the McCormack committee, M-C-C-O-R-M-A-C-K committee for any of you listeners at home that want to start digging into this and have your fucking minds blown before Pete and I, you know, blow them in the next episode. Yeah, the, I'm looking it up right now and trying to find, trying to find a page on it.

But the Cormac Committee. Yep, McCormack Dickstein committee, DICCK. Got it. All right, cool. Yeah, the Dickstein committee. I wonder, let me do it early life on Mr. Dixstein. I'm sure that's not even, I'm sure you don't even have to do that. No, out of curiosity.

I'm going to. Wow. Yeah, I, Democratic Congressman. he played a key role in establishing the committee that became the House committee, which he used to attack fascists and Nazi sympathizers. Wow. That's nice. That's nice of him, him and Alan Weinstein.

That's great. All right. Well, that'll be, we can put that out there as a teaser, next time. All right. Well, I'll make sure to link your, uh, your Twitter in the, in the notes and everything. He was a, uh, he was born to a, uh, a Jewish family of five children from Russia. His dad was Rabbi Israel, Dixie. Settled on the Lower East side, public and private schools, city college of New York. Yeah, there was a time when that was one of the only colleges

that Jews could get into in New York. So it was CCNY. Yeah, CCNY, the joke used to be that it was circumcised citizens of New York. That's what they call the college. Oh, man, back in a better time. But yeah. All right, man. I think,

I think the next time we will have a lot of fun, you know, talking about that evil, evil Nazi coup that Mr. Dixstein luckily put a stop to. Thank goodness. Oh, man. Yeah.

John and Mr. McCormack is, he was born in Boston, but his dad was a Canadian. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Really? They love to be very Mick, though.

They, um, it looks like the Irish, the Irish runs deep in that family, so. I have to, I have to be honest. I can't just blame the hues for all this, right? It was the, it was the Irish that were kind of like their men on the ground. You know, the problem with organizing, um, all of the workers of the world, they don't mean like, you know, cubical workers. They meant like, you know, manual labor workers. Problem with, you know, this certain group of people trying to organize labor when they themselves are allergic to labor, like, you know, fatally allergic to labor is very difficult. You need help.

And the Irishmen were more than happy to be the bridge into the labor that these certain people were too good to do themselves. So I can't leave the Irish out of it. You fucking mix are just as guilty as they are. Filthy immigrants, all of you. You're all going back. I guess I'm going back to. Where are the hell going to do that? All right, Ben. like oh we'll just leave yeah like just go somewhere else like give up on america where the fuck where the fuck do yeah it's like you know yeah there's one group that has like their you know built their little place in the middle east that they can run to if things get bad where the fuck do i go yeah like my family's been here since a hundred more than a hundred years

since there was a united states of like where am i actually have citizenship to another country. If I wanted to, I can reapply for it. I had it at one time. I let it lapse. I have to reapply. I can't step foot in that country because I've said stuff publicly that could get me thrown in jail in that country. Oh, that is quite the conundrum. A good way of at least getting your money out of the country is taking a flight to Singapore. I highly recommend anybody that is listening that has the means to do something. so to do it. Singapore is a very brilliant country that obviously, because it was, you know, created by such a noble man as Lee Kuan Yew, who I think everyone that is interested in politics needs to study Lee Kuan Yew. I think he might actually be one of the most brilliant political minds of the last 60, 70 years. And he's often overlooked. a very race realist, but in Singapore, they are very smart and all the Singapore banks have branches

in the international terminal of the airport. So you could fly to Singapore in like a layover somewhere else, right? Never even get your passport stamped as far as anybody knows you were never even in Singapore, right? The same way as if I have a layover in Germany, I never leave the international terminal, right? I never went to Germany. But tons of Singapore banks will happily set up accounts for you in that international terminal.

Most of them won't even ask for docs. find me another bank not only is the only banks the only banks that were fined an international terminal an airport but they're also the only ones that will take gold physical on deposit so yeah if you can if you can if you ever get your money out of the country you can do it right and once you have that account set up you can wire from your account back home into it and once it goes in the u.s can't get it back so even though we can't go to japan me without getting arrested or at least our money can go someone else. All right, well, until the next time, thank you.

Soon. Appreciate it. Bye.