The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1119: The Right are the True Conservationists and Environmentalists w/ Redhawk
Episode Date: October 13, 202461 MinutesPG-13Redhawk is the president of the central committee of the Old Glory Club.Redhawk joins Pete to talk about nature conservation and environmentalism and how it should be a top priority for... those on the right. They also go over how conservationism can be applied to other current problems.Redhawk's Find My Frens PageOld Glory Club YouTube ChannelOld Glory Club SubstackPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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You know, it's been a while since you've been a while since you.
been on the show Red Hawk, but it seems like we, like, we're on a show together all the time.
Yeah, you're like the co-host of the Pony Express streams. I was trying to remember when the last
time actually was on your channel proper, it has to have been a couple of years now. Yeah, it's
2020, I think. And the, well, it's because we were in so much contact. I guess we don't even
really think about it and everything. And plus we record once a week. But, you know,
yesterday I had the I had the duty of trying to fill in for you yeah please don't miss any
other weeks because yeah you guys you guys did a good job filling in for me as we're recording
this is the day after the hurricane so uh the reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated yes
yeah I wonder who was reporting your death that guy's that guy's an asshole yeah so
So how's it going?
You're, you live through, you experienced your first hurricane.
What was that like?
I know, I know, I'll pop my cherry.
You know, it was, it wasn't too bad.
I was fortunate enough to be like just one mile away from where all the major flooding was.
And, you know, it wasn't horrible.
I'm sure I'm going to read a bunch of news reports this week about how climate change is
existential threat to our survival.
And this is why we have record level hurricanes and such.
but, you know, whatever.
Yeah, the, I went through a bunch because I lived down there for a long time.
And I actually went through Hurricane Andrew.
Wow.
And where I lived at the time was, that's where Andrew was headed.
And at the last minute, it turned and went south down to, down to Miami.
So we got spared.
We still didn't have power for a while.
Had some broken windows.
had some down trees, but it wasn't like the third world.
Like, I mean, the next day I went to a restaurant because we didn't have power,
found a restaurant that had power, was looking on TV.
And I'm like, oh, did they have an earthquake in the third world?
Oh, no, that's Miami.
Yeah, that was, yeah, that was pretty wild.
Yeah, and then just today it was clear blue skies.
And I went to the gym and went to the grocery store.
Power came back on.
It's, you know, aside from a bunch of down branches,
on the streets everywhere.
Says stuff like nothing really happened in my area.
Yeah, that's the one good thing about after a hurricane is you can't get some really good weather.
Yeah.
So, I mean, hey, people may think that we're just talking, you know, little small talk here and everything.
But one of the things we did want to talk about was the environment.
And, you know, why caring about the environment and caring about conservation and caring about the outdoors,
isn't gay.
It's just that a bunch of gay people made it gay.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, a lot of people in our thing
have been making the similar connection
to the overall, like,
general well-being of health and fitness sphere
has basically just been completely surrendered
to our guys at this point.
And so, you know,
anytime you see like a fitness guy
or a guy who's talking about health
or testosterone or seed oils
or plastics in the food
or whatever subject related to that.
It's just one of our guys at this point.
And the environment conservation is another one of these issues
that is ripe for attack from our guys right now.
Because basically what the left is done
is limited every single discussion on the issue
to some form of climate change, which is just
this amorphous catch-all term that means that we have to give
a billion dollars to Bill Gates this very moment
or we're all going to die in the next 10
years and this has just been proven false time and time again ever since like i mean people
going back to you know things like the 1970s and the 80s when they were predicting the next ice age
they're predicting we're going to run out of food you have Al Gore's inconvenient truth that came
out in the early 2000s and he predicted that the sea level was going to rise and take out Miami in
2012 and now that's 12 years ago now at this point so where are all these predictions that people
are having and you know it's just right for
for us to take over at this point because it's just run by a bunch of crazies.
Yeah, it's interesting.
You mentioned all the health stuff and everything you mentioned this.
And our brother, John Slaughter, had a great tweet where he's like,
the future is far right guys with crunchy wives.
Yeah.
Slaughter's a smart guy.
He's probably correct.
So I know that from someone I was, I talked.
to a few years ago. He was big into the, into activism, climate activism, like in the late
80s. And he said, he was like really the only lefty that was out there like pouring sugar in the
gas tanks of like logging companies, things and, you know, taking out, you know, taking out
their vehicles so that they wouldn't just take down these whole forest because they weren't planning on
replacing them. You know, they were just going to, they were just going to, it was just basic
deforestation for deforestation's sake. And he said most of the guys he was out there with were like
AR slinging right wingers who were like, yeah, this, this, we can't let this happen. And then it seems like,
well, with the whole climate change thing, becoming commercialized, becoming something that
someone can make money off of that just it for some reason that fell into the left you know and now
Al Gore has gone from yeah I mean he's he's made well into the hundreds of millions through climate
activism oh yeah and what is he actually produced from it either I mean there's arguments to be
made about you know finding alternative sources to energy and such like that doing research but
all these clowns have nothing to show for their activism.
It's just money laundering at this point.
And back to what I was mentioning about how this whole scene has just been taking over by
crazy loons, whether it's your Greta Toonbergs of the world or amazingly, we don't really
have these here in the States yet, but no doubt they're coming.
But you see this in the UK all the time.
These like just stop oil people who are like spray painting Stonehenge or throwing cans of
soup on priceless works of art and such because like they think the world is going to sink to
the bottom of the ocean because like people are using some oil and such it's it's just complete lunatics
like inmates running the asylum at this point well i know that from the episode you did with
thomas talking about hunting specifically you were talking about hunting in africa but i know you
hunt here as well i know that i'm not a hunter but i've spent a lot of time around hunters and
you know there are some of the first people who are going to talk about um you know constern
and the environment and you know specifically around where they live you know
they want to take care they want to take care of around where they live yeah absolutely
there were often the hunters and anglers are like the first people to like sound the
alarm in many cases of environmental disaster people can look this up in the
70s and the 80s like Lake Erie and like St. Clair and like the I forget the
name of the river mommy yeah the mommy River and like Toledo and such and
there were the runs through downtown Cleveland.
They used to catch fire back of the day because of all the pollution.
And it wasn't like a bunch of environmentalists that sounded the alarm on that.
It was duck hunters.
Said there's no ducks in this area anymore.
You know, the pollution is so bad that there's no like wild celery that's growing to feed any of these ducks.
We can't hunt this land anymore.
You got to stop this nonsense.
And of course it's going to be hunters and anglers and sound the alarm on this because they've spent the most time in the woods.
You know, you can call on any of these environmental activists.
and such so-called.
And I guarantee you I've spent more time in the woods and the wilderness than all of them
combined because they're a bunch of city slickers, basically.
They just see everything through the screen.
They don't know what the behavioral patterns,
that thought patterns are of the species that live in the wilds and how best to monitor
them and how best to manage them and such.
It's just they have this view that the only thing that man can possibly do in nature is to
harm it. Somehow, like, man doesn't belong in nature at all. He's just like this complete,
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Well, I think that that basically has to do with their ideology that, you know, the only
people who are really doing this here are white men.
And, you know, there are groups that, if you're familiar with deer hunting, there are groups
in the Carolinas that go.
out and they have an overpopulation of deer, they go out, they deer hunt, and then they'll take that
meat and they'll take it to a process implant, and all of this will go to charity, you'll just go
to feed the homeless, it'll go towards something. They don't even want that, because that is
basically guys doing it on their own, coming up with their own solution for things, and if they're not,
If they don't get a chance to control it through their NGOs and government agencies,
then, you know, it's just, it's just white people doing, you know, white people taking charge.
Well, no, we can't.
It has to, it's only us white people that get to do it.
Yeah, it's just more like a colonizer rhetoric that you see.
And they almost kind of have a view of the wilderness, kind of in the same way they view like a bunch of indigenous groups.
It's like there's like a Rousseau's noble savage, a view of the wilderness as well.
and it's like they have no concept of okay a hunter goes into the woods and shoots a deer which is infinitely more humane in most cases than how the deer is actually going to die in the wild it's not like you know this disney fairy tale where a deer is going to die of old age surrounded by loved ones like no it's getting it hunted down after it's been sick probably been lame maybe it's been hit by a car it's going to be tracked down ripped apart ass first by a pack of coyotes and a pack of wolves it's like shut up you have no idea what you're talking about
And you see this as well when you see like legislation passed, particularly in what are now increasingly becoming more and more blue states out west.
You saw us in like the Pacific Northwest forever with things like forest management.
But I mentioned this in the stream of Thomas as well.
New laws have come down in Colorado for reintroducing gray wolves into the state.
They passed this in 2022.
And now the populations have exploded and they're starting to eat livestock.
And while they gave a law to reintroduce the wall to reintroduce the world.
wolves. They didn't pass a law corresponding with it for management of these wolves. So it's like,
okay, well, do you want to just have, do you want to just like surrender all of like our towns and
all of our like neighborhoods to wolves and such like that? I mean, like for one perspective,
like some of like Bronchhead's Pervert would say like, oh yeah, that's really base and such.
But like, you can't even actually fight them and actually like kill them, you know, otherwise
you're going to get prosecuted. Yeah. And that's, that's what ends up happening once once it
reaches the point where it's such a detriment to the population, the human population,
and the livestock is that's the only thing you can do is, okay, now you got to go out there
and you got to kill them all. And who wants that? You could just do it, you could do it in a way
where that is more natural. I think didn't they introduce a wolf population into yellow
stone like 15 years ago there hadn't been a wolf population there for a while and they
managed it really well and then they saw certain other kind of species that had returned yeah uh
basically um it was like a cascade effect in the sense of okay so you reintroduce a top predator
and the top predator is going to cut down on populations of you know your top herbivores so
your deer your elk your bison and such and that gives opportunities for uh plant species to bounce back
because they're not constantly being eaten all the way down to the stem all the time because you have less herbivores running around.
And that brings an opportunity for smaller herbivores to make a return.
You know, so like your different species of like rabbits and other small game and such are allowed to come back.
And that corresponds with different kinds of insects.
And, you know, food webs are very, very delicate indeed.
So, yeah, introducing a top predator definitely has knock on effects that enrich an environment.
Well, I know you grew up in, you grew up in Michigan, and people automatically, when they hear about Michigan, they think of Detroit, Detroit only.
Just like when you talk about New York, all it, anybody wants to talk about is New York City.
But, I mean, once you go up and you go north, I mean, you're talking about some, some beautiful wilderness up there.
And it looks like a mitten.
Isn't that what it ends up looking like?
And, you know, I have a friend that lives, you know, almost.
all the way up to Canada up there and everything.
And apparently everything is supposed to be.
How is the conservation up there?
Yeah, you get this a lot in your Midwest states where, of course, the population is
centered around the big cities.
And then outside of that, it's just, you know, wild wilderness country.
And it's Hunter Central.
And everybody knows the maps of them.
They're all like deep red areas surrounded by blue cities and such.
And, yeah, Michigan is definitely one of these cases of the majority of the population.
is in like the southern quarter of the state land mass wise and then the other three quarters of the landmass of the state has like nine of one quarter of the population so it's very sparsely populated you have giant pine forests as you go further north in the upper peninsula of michigan you have wolf populations you have elk you have moose you have bear so it's it's very very wild up there do you think i was just this is a wild thought i just had because
because I was reading about what they do in England,
and I don't know if they still do it.
Some of our English listeners can hit me up on Twitter or something like that,
but venison is huge over there.
I mean, it's one of their, it's one of their staples,
but I think they have state farms where they basically farm it.
I mean, what about a state tribut?
that out? That would be an interesting idea. There are a couple of venison farms across the country.
Definitely more of them for like elk and bison and such. You can go to like a high-end restaurant.
You can get like a bison burger or an elk burger or something like that.
Yeah, Ted Turner. Ted Turner does that with the bison. Yeah. The biggest issue about that is,
is that it's actually illegal in most states for you to directly sell your wild game on the market.
and their accusation of this is kind of the same thing where you run into like people in like the raw milk community and such like that like oh well it's it's super dangerous and you can't be selling this stuff i mean i'm kind of have two minds about this and there's this is like a big argument that goes back and forth and a hunter circles as to how concerned people should be on some of these like chronic prion disorders and diseases that are now popping up in deer species particularly in the midwest and and new england
England and such. There's some really nasty chronic wasting disease that is being found at a lot of deer these days, which is a tick-borne disease.
You know, if you go down enough rabbit holes, some people say it was even like a government bioengineered similar to like Lyme disease such.
So that's like the argument they're making now is that like, oh, well, you can't sell wild game because it could be infected.
And we don't want this disease to jump over to humans and such.
It's like, yeah, I mean, it could be. It's in such rare, rare cases that I don't know.
I remember two minds about it, though.
Well, I mean, I was specifically talking about something that would actually be state-funded,
or state-sponsored, you know, so that you actually, yeah, that that was something that the state did.
They would have, you know, just, I mean, we already have farmers to get paid not to grow,
I mean, it doesn't, it seems like something that might work.
You know, if you have the right state, if you have the right kind of management of a state,
I'm trying to think of a state right now that I think would be competent enough to do that.
But, you know, I'm just workshopping this idea.
I bet you this could work very well in a lot of your Midwest states.
This is going to open up another can of worms in another discussion.
But you'll have these deer farms where they basically pure breed top genetics for white-tailed deer, red stag.
mule deer what have you in these large fenced-in game preserves basically and you get some truly
like monstrous genetic abnormal white-tailed deer who have like 27 points on them and such and
hunters will pay like 20 grand to go and shoot it basically it's like oh i got the biggest white-tail
deer ever but you know because it's like a fenced-in property and such and you have so many
deer in this place um i suppose uh you know a lot of these guys would probably gladly um like
when they have to call these deer because they just have to, you know, get a subsidy from the government and sell a lot of this meat off and such.
I'm sure those guys would certainly be interested in it.
But, you know, as soon as you bring that up, people are going to bring in like the ethical question of like, oh, fenced in hunting and all that kind of stuff.
So I just don't trust most of the state legislatures to actually deal with this issue accordingly.
they're just going to be bitching and complaining about it and saying this is unethical because you're treating Bambi a bad way.
Yeah, it seems like this would be something that one of our guys would have to take over a state in order to see how this could play out and everything.
So what else?
I mean, I know you grew up going to, you were talking to Thomas about going to Africa, doing big game hunting there.
you've done hunting here.
You know, how do we take this back?
How do we, you know, what's the message that, you know, or even, let's go here.
I mean, we've talked about here a little bit.
Over there, it seems like in Africa, it seems like because they count so much upon
on the income that, like, Americans or, you know, anyone from anywhere around the world
would go to spend there.
I would think that they would probably go out of their way to make sure that the environment was a little bit as clean, well, clean as possible out there.
I mean, you're not, you don't have a lot of great deal of manufacturing.
You don't have a great deal of, I'd assume you don't have a great deal of trash.
But at least as far as like the game that you're going, it would seem like conservation would be really important to them.
Yeah, it really depends on the area in which you've.
go. There are a couple countries that have, because they haven't been subject to a lot of civil
unrest and civil wars throughout the last 50 to 60 years, they've kind of set themselves up into a
groove where they're okay with people coming over and, you know, actually hunting for sport as
opposed to catering to poachers, which, you know, even still any country over there is going to make
more money poaching than hunting at this point. It's, you know, the money that you get for like
ivory fetches more than heroin on the world market, depending on where you are. And even though in
some countries like Namibia, for example, which is one of the few countries left where you can hunt
black rhinos, it's a quarter million dollars to shoot one cash. And you can easily get way more money
from that from one rhino horn by selling it to the Chinaman and such. So the corruption is really
rife in a lot of these places where, you know, briberies go down, poachers come in and shoot a bunch
of stuff, but they also do cater to, you know, professional hunters. In the areas where professional
hunters are catered to, populations are stable across all of Africa, where you actually look at the
numbers where professional hunters are stationed, but they can't be everywhere, right? And then when you
actually look in the context of countries where they don't have professional hunting, these are
mostly a war-torn countries, because obviously, you know, you're not going to spend a bunch of
money if you're rich like Texan and you're not going to go to like angola or mosaic or mosaic or you know like uh
Congo or some shit you know you're not going to go to one of these like terrible countries so in those places yeah the game is just being like ripped apart and there's extinction and extirpation of species is happening all the time over there so it really does depend on where you are but what is clear is that um
left to their own devices um without like the
incentive for professional hunters, which are almost always Westerners, and they're always being
monitored by Western pHs as well. It's not like you have a company that is, you know, like actually
run by locals. It's always run by some kind of, you know, either Rhodesian or South African guy
or, you know, some guy from Tanzania or something. It's always like a white guy who's in charge
of these Alfreds and these companies and such. It's never like locals. They'll have like locals
that are employed who are like trackers and service people.
and such like that on these big safaris,
but left to their own devices,
they would just destroy every last bit of this game
and sell it to the highest bidder.
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Really tells you something, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
So what would you look at for,
okay, so you have control over this?
What's the first thing you do?
What's the first thing you try and get under control?
In the context of Africa.
Well, I mean, we can stay here.
Let's come home.
I mean, we're going to have to worry about Africa at some point.
I agree with Eric Prince on that.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, let's stay here.
Yeah, I'm pro-colonialism just to save the megafauna at this point.
But we can go back to that later.
Yeah.
For I think it'd be very,
one of the takes has been going around recently in our spaces is discussion about how
like gun rights and Second Amendment and stuff to some people is viewed just like a distraction
issue because it's one of the issues that has actually expanded since you and I have been
alive like concealed carry is in almost every single state at this point and it seems like
gun rights is one of the few things that the right has actually made some serious gains on
in the United States and one of the things
it's almost like that's the only issue that hunters care about
outside of like hunting itself.
Like you have like the big organizations like Dallas Safari Club,
Safari Club International, you know,
Boone and Cricket Club,
all these like big hunting organizations.
They seem to only really care about the gun issue and that's basically it.
Like okay, we're really rob,
we're protecting Second Amendment and such.
But what I would really like to see out of these guys is reaching out into other,
you know, avenues.
I would really like to see people like, you know, whoever's in charge of SCI reach out to somebody like RFK.
Because combining those two things together with, I mean, I don't know, Pete, I don't know how often you wild game and such.
But it's just so much more healthy for you than like the engineer goyslop that has fed down our throats every single day.
I mean, and you can detect it immediately.
Like when you take a bite of venison, you take a bite of a bison burger or an elk steak or something, you could just immediately tell.
there's way more vitamins and nutrients in this thing than anything I've basically eaten before.
And I think that is a really productive avenue that these people should be making more inroads to.
Another thing that they can be making inroads to is things like anti-factory farming,
you know, like the free farming movement or whatever the hell people are calling it these days,
like open range farming and such.
I'd like to see these guys look for allies and realize that, hey, this issue of hunting is about
overall general health of our people and our nation as a whole, as opposed to, okay, let's just
focus about guns. I just talk about guns, guns, guns. Again, it's like, okay, I get it.
Guns are really important. I understand that. But, you know, let's expand our horizons here a little bit.
Yeah, as far as elk and bison and the like go, yeah, obviously I'm not out there shooting any,
but I do whenever I can, I get it. And you can, you can tell. I mean, right away, you can,
The average kind of steak that you get, especially if you get a steak at like a Costco or one of the big stores.
I mean, there's no comparison.
I mean, I used to have a Sam's Club membership, and we used to get like the big pack of steaks.
And it just got to the point where I just stopped because I would just look at them in the package.
And you're just like, all right, then you go to a butcher shop, a real butcher shop that has,
We have a butcher shop in town that's great.
I mean, it's just basically coming from farms around here.
And the difference is, you can see right away.
You can just look at it and you can tell there's a difference.
And people who haven't eaten like bison or elk or even chicken or, you know, my property is surrounded by a cattle farm.
And I know the people who own the cattle farm and, you know, they've given us, you know, here,
here's some of your neighbors, you know, to stick in the freezer.
And it's like, the taste is so different.
I mean, it's just, it's not even close, you know, and it's like, first time he gave it to me,
he's like, now it's going to taste different.
It's going to say, I'm like, dude, I've had, I've had right off the farm before and everything.
Yeah, it was moving a couple hours ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, and then he has a chicken house.
So we go there and we get the, we get eggs like as there, you know,
that were laid that day and everything.
So, yeah, I mean, people really need to, you know,
start looking into this because when you do start eating stuff like that,
you just feel different.
It's just, yeah, I mean, I don't even really know how to explain it.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I think the only thing, too, is one of the end roads we can make is,
you know, money's pretty tight right now from people right,
inflation-wise and everything.
And people look at the price of, you know, like a Wagyu Bee for some of this, like, really
organic stuff and it seems to be way more expensive.
But if you actually go out and engage in the sport yourself and kill it yourself, I mean,
you should like three deer, and that's enough food for you for an entire year, no easily.
I mean, like you, you should like three doze.
That's about, you know, depending on how big they are, that's around 100 pounds of venison.
And you got to think in your head what?
You go through like two pounds of meat a day, maybe, depending on how big your family.
is and such and a deer tag in most states is like 45 bucks at this point because there's just so
many of them i mean granted yeah there's a bit of a barrier to entry because you got to you know make
the time and find a hunted ground and such and you know hone your skills properly but i mean if you
get your family accustomed to yeah i kill this thing i'm gonna gut it and i'm gonna stick it in the
freezer and we're gonna eat venison you know a couple months out of the year kids you know it can be
very very lucrative for you well even
I mean, even if you don't want to dress it yourself, I mean, there's, in most areas, you have,
you have, you have taxidermists that'll do it for you.
And they'll, they're not going to, they're not going to charge you an insane amount of money.
And when you, after you pay the tag and then you pay the, pay the, pay the, pay the butcher or the,
some around here taxidermy shops are the ones that do a lot of that.
They, you know, you're basically paying what, four or five dollars a pound.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, you're making out better than you would in a store.
Oh, absolutely.
And I think the other thing, too, and this is one of the things I'm really trying to get started next year for some of our OGC members and our chapters across the country is.
I'll start taking our guys on a hunts.
I have some ideas to, I'm going to test run this later this year in Florida, some of the guys in the Florida.
some of the guys in the Florida chapter to go on a wild boar hunt.
But what I want to do is at least like two times a year,
take a couple of more guys either down to Texas or down to Florida
and start getting them involved actually in the sport
because it is a pretty hard barrier to entry.
It's not like fishing where you can just pick up like a $20 pond
from Dick Sporting Goods and go down to your like local pond or something.
You know, like it can be really daunting if you don't know what you're doing.
So that's one of the things I want to do.
And not just because like, you know,
you actually need somebody to teach you about
you know, how to properly conduct yourself when you're out in the wilderness, like basic safety
stuff, like where to shoot your animal, how to dress it properly. The other thing, too, is that
it's just a spiritual experience as well. You find yourself way more in a connection with wilderness,
God's creation, even yourself. You know, there's something like primal that awakens in you
when your adrenaline is high and, you know, you've just shot something, you've killed something
for the first time. You definitely have way more of a respect for the world.
and you understand your place in it and you understand your role,
especially us, particularly as people in the West and as white men,
who are the only people on the entire planet that have engaged in conservation in any way.
Special honorable mention goes to the Japanese, but ignoring them.
It kind of just puts it in context, like, you know, people like will criticize,
people like BAP for saying that, like, one snow leopard is worth like 10 million, you know,
pageats.
But I totally fucking agree.
It's absolutely true.
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the snow leper is not going to lie to you about their their skills and everything and everything
and you hire them and then it's like oh wow they really don't know what the hell they're doing
yeah it really just attacks this idea of like when we talk about like the bug men and such and
senseless biomass just for biomass sake and it kind of like brings me back to one of the things
I really hate that establishment normie cons talk about is like they're always getting hung up
on this idea of like a population shrinkage and such like this, which is like, okay, I mean,
like population decline is just like anything. There's going to be busts and booms and things
like this. And if we didn't have this, you know, entitlement scheme basically to pay for everyone's
social security and welfare until the day they die, you know, population, you know, decrease would
be a pretty good thing, especially for us younger guys who are looking to buy ourselves.
a home and such and this like idea that oh well in order to compensate for the fact that we've
basically destroyed the incentives for men and women to get together and reform families we need to
import more people from the third world into our own country which somehow is like environmentally friendly
to be wasting a bunch of fuel transporting people from the third world over to here and then also to
compensate for that because we need more people to you know work for us instead of addressing
the issues at home we're just going to break very basic civil
Civilizational rules that everybody in the past knew about like I don't know don't give your enemies your fucking technology
It's like rule one when you're playing a game of civilization is don't give like sub-Saharan Africans who didn't invent the wheel or written language like access to 21st century technology and then you just see these absolute horror shows of trash is built up on every single shoreline throughout all sub-Saharan Africa and every single river in Southeast Asia where they've
destroyed dozens upon dozens of species just in the last decade and driven them to extinction.
It's like, yeah, this is an absolutely fucking joke.
And then on top of that, it's somehow like, you know, the Westerner's fault for driving a
gas powered car that, you know, you're destroying the entire earth.
Yeah, and then the same people who claim to care about the environment,
import them here, want them imported here, advocate for them to be imported here.
and then you watch the videos from like New York City or Springfield, Ohio, or what Miami has been for a long time.
And you realize that these people, they don't know basic sanitation.
Yeah.
And yet we're supposed to bring them here and somehow what we're supposed to teach them, we're supposed to take time out of our day to make them human.
Yeah. I'm yeah sorry it's yeah it's crazy I mean like just look at it from a picture from space and
this is amazing when I first heard this a couple of years ago but it's nuts when you look into it
look at the country of Haiti and they've almost cut down every single tree in their entire country
like they've almost completely exhausted all of their resources it's like there's just no
concept of you know saving for the next day or saving for the future it's just exploit exploit exploit
use, use, use to the very last man.
And they're absolutely going to do that here.
There's not like some magic dirt that, oh, I'm going to import a Haitian, and all of a sudden
he's going to have respect for the land or come up with the idea of a national park.
Like the, just think about that for a second, the idea of having a national park, a place
that we're just going to section off.
Nobody's allowed to go in it, unless with express written permission from the government.
And it's just going to be a sanctuary for wildlife and wide open beautiful spaces.
and you're just going to be there to hike it, and you get heavily fined if you leave trash around,
and you're just there to enjoy, and they're taking the beauty of God's creation.
Like, nobody else thinks this way.
Yeah, and now there's talk of cartels being, you know, setting up shop in these parks and everything.
And, I mean, do you think they're going to care about it as much as, you know, we would?
No, of course not.
Yeah.
Yeah, people, I read Campa.
of the Saints on my show, about six months ago or so, beginning of the year.
And I had people comment and they're like, oh, I read that.
It's so comical.
It's so it just, it's really, at best, it's a comic book caricature of these people.
At worst, it's just the most racist thing.
And it's like, no.
No.
It's like, no, I mean, I've never been to India, okay?
But I know several people who have been to India and they all have the they all have the same opinion.
It's like, I can't wait to leave.
I mean, I had one person who saw me there like, as soon as they open up the plane door, you know, you think you're in hell because this smell gets you as soon as you open the door.
And this is what they want.
this is the strength of diversity that we need apparently yeah and it just goes to show you how
really subversive a lot of these like nature documentaries host about like david atbro or whatever
where they have a clear like climate agenda to push on these things where they'll show you like
species from like india or something and uh they'll talk about like tigers or bears or whatever uh show you
a tiger at a kill and then they'll show you like the factories of India and it kind of puts in
the subconscious of your brain it's like oh there's smokestacks as factories we have smokestacks
and factories over here in America we're just as guilty as this than they are but they're very
careful to never ever show you the literal mountains that are like eight stories tall of trash
outside of like New Delhi they're so tall that they actually need to have um uh like air traffic
control towers on top of them to make sure the airplanes don't fly into them that's how tall these
mountains of trash are they're in this country they never show you the shorelines that are covered
in plastic and fishing nets and just junk of all kinds because they just don't care it's like oh well
something goes into the ocean that's just you know like tragedy of the commons it's just out there
no one's going to touch it you know um so like they put this like worm in your brain where it's
like oh well we need to shut down all the factories here because that's the problem it's like
I mean, if you just like look at the actual math and the statistics for like greenhouse gases in carbon, which is like, yeah, it's a proof scientific phenomenon.
How much do humans have an effect on it is like minimal as far as I'm concerned?
I mean, when you look at the data of something like when Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980 or was 81, I forget which year.
But it put more CO2 in the atmosphere than the previous 6,000 years of humanity combined.
It's like, yeah, just to think that man has this.
kind of power to be, you know, increasing the temperature of the planet when already the Earth is in
a extreme, like, cold period in its history. If you look at the fossil record and such, I mean,
it's just ridiculous to think that, like, factories are the cause and the problems here when
the real big issue, if you want to talk about environmental concerns, is actual pollution,
things like plastics, things like masks from the previous, like three years when everyone was
locked down in their fucking homes because of a cold. Yeah, all those masks are in the ocean now,
and like a bunch of fish and a bunch of sea turtles and whales and shit are choking on them all the time because, you know, oh, well, of course they're just going to end up in the ocean.
They're a bunch of like, oh, people in Southeast Asia and a bunch of Indians and such, and they're not going to dispose of them properly.
So, of course, they're going to get into the ocean.
And once it gets into the ocean, people can look up these things about like the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and just gets caught up in this never-ending circular currents that go between the South China Sea and Hawaii and such.
and it's newsflash, it's not the United States or any country in the West for that matter
that is contributing to this level of pollution.
And they always try to focus on like the climate stuff.
It's like, well, first of all, you haven't proven to me that A, that's damaging in any way.
And second of all, you're actually not addressing the things that people should be talking about,
like the fact that you're just dumping shit into the oceans.
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Yeah.
Yeah, and another thing is if they really, really cared about the environment, nuclear would be, that's pretty much what the whole country would run on.
Because it's the cleanest burning energy out there.
They put up these windmills that are just absolutely disgusting.
I mean, first of all, they look terrible.
And they kill many of my feathered friends.
Yeah.
Yeah, and they leak oil all the time.
These solar farms, which are basically using up land and just look horrendous, if you've ever seen those from the sky.
And then we just, you know, like France did, I haven't really looked into France recently.
I'm sure that they've succumbed to some kind of pressure to get rid of their nuclear.
but they were running, I think it was like 90 to 95% of France was running on nuclear.
And why can't we have that here?
Well, because three-mile island, which was, you know, who knows what the hell that was?
Or movies like the China Syndrome, they try to scare everybody to death.
I'm like, everyone just brings up the, you know, the description of like a Chernobyl or like the Fukushima disaster.
It's like, well, I mean, okay, so you're talking about nuclear.
So we've had what, like three major disasters in like the 100 years it's been around.
And one of those was done because it was run by a bunch of incompetent comies.
And the other one was because a tsunami and an earthquake occurred right next to the foundation.
So it got destroyed.
It's like, okay.
I mean, what do you want for me at that point?
I mean, yeah, nothing's ever going to be perfect.
Sorry.
But, you know, in, you know, as they always say, right, it's about tradeoffs, right?
It's like, okay, do you want to have a billion windmills that kill God knows how many birds every year?
And do you want to have these giant ass solar farms that we've proven are just not productive, like, at all on a large scale?
I mean, like, you can get like solar panels installed, like, outside your house, and it'll cut down on your electric bill quite a little bit.
But to do this at scale, we just don't have the battery technology to do it.
And I don't know if you want to like, I don't know if Elon Musk wants to invest in do some research into battery stuff.
I'm like, okay, fine.
but this idea that somehow we're going to get the entire American public to start driving on electric cars.
It's like, well, where do you think electricity comes from?
I mean, it comes from burning coal.
There's not enough waterways and enough windmills and enough solar panels to generate enough electricity to keep the grid going if everyone must to start using electric cars.
This is just like fairy tale land done by a bunch of people who don't spend time in the wilderness, who don't know how energy is used or consumed, quite frankly.
And they just know nothing about like nature, food chains, food webs, anything like this.
It's all just based on emotion.
Yeah.
I mean, you have options.
I mean, natural gas can run whole house generators.
I mean, you, the idea that we've just allowed this, this monopoly, where, yeah, sure, we do have.
We do have some nuclear power plants around the country, but not nearly enough.
And, I mean, you still have dams.
You still have, you know, you still have, and that can work, that can work for smaller communities.
But when it comes to, you know, the heavily populated areas, especially, well, the coasts, I mean, this is a no-brainer.
And, you know, considering now that you, there are even safer ways of, of, of, of,
producing nuclear is I mean it's just yeah and then and also continuing back to what we were
discussing already is the the left who claims to be on the side of environmentalism protecting the
environment just want to go infinity migrants it's like I remember getting into an argument
on Twitter once with like a leftist because I had one of these like tweets that went viral
basically saying that like of course like the the white man is the only one that engages in
conservation and whenever I have one of these tweets that go semi-viral there's always like some
shit libs in the comments like raging about this and I just asked him about immigration I'm like
okay so you're just going to convert every single like forest great plain desert you know
coastline you know everything into like cheap ass shopping balls and like they have like this cognitive
dissidents or like uh no we just need to build more housing it's like well motherfucker like
people just don't live in homes dude like you have to have a whole whole
whole infrastructure need to build up schools you need to build up um uh like all sorts of other things
for a community need to build up uh you know supermarkets you need to build up hospitals yeah everything
else that requires like a population increase no so yeah you are going to replace everything
it's not just like oh let's just build more housing we can have a billion americans like in this uh
matt eglacius uh conception which angers me to no end it's like dude i'm taking more and more of like a lot
I approach as I get older in this thing. It's like there's way too many people. I mean,
not just not just in America, but like completely abroad. You know, like no, fuck off. We do not
need a billion people. I'm fine with the population declining so I can afford a home. I'm fine
with there being more wild spaces. I'm fine with, you know, like a government like unfunded
liabilities to like take a back seat. Like I really just don't care. I want a country. I want a nation.
I want to be able to walk outside and enjoy the clean air.
I'm going to go to a national park where there aren't infinity pagets, you know, just standing in line.
I was in like, I went and visited Mammoth Cave National Park this summer for the first time.
And I was just blown away how many foreign nationals are there.
It's like if I get, if I'm president day one, it's like free and minutes to all like national parks and theme parks and such for Americans and like a 500% uptick to all foreigners.
Like the national park system and like a theme park system, you know, something like Disney World used to be one of like the purse of.
being an American, but now it's just like so expensive, it's so cost prohibitive for like your
average Joe family from like Maine to go take a summer road trip down to Tennessee or to Florida
with the family. It's just not like feasible anymore. And not to mention issues of like traffic
getting underway. I mean, I was driving around Toronto earlier this year, which is the traffic
capital of the Western Hemisphere. And I'm stuck in traffic for three and a half hours to go five
hours through downtown to go five miles through downtown it's like there's too many fucking people here
and we're just going to import more of them and more of them more of them when we don't have the
infrastructure for it it's like get the fuck out of here yeah and i'm not obviously i'm not advocating
for this but when you put them into cities you have public transportation when you put them into
friggin springfield ohio or silicaa alabama there's no public transportation so
So they have to buy cars.
They have to get cars.
And they're given money to buy cars.
And, well, they're so worried about these cars and the environment and everything.
Now you have more cars on the road.
Now you have more, you know, more, you know, of the CO2 that they're, they're so worried about.
Or the, not to mention traffic fatalities.
Yeah, traffic.
Well, yeah, traffic fatalities.
These people just don't think.
I know there are some of them who
who are just really, really fucked in the head
who think they mean well.
But then there are the ones that are just doing it to punish us.
Yeah, and then they have their...
Exactly.
And then they have their apparactics in the media.
Did you see this when...
I forget the name of the journal I was doing this,
but in the wake of all this Springfield, Ohio stuff popping off,
this guy like basically wrote a op-ed comparing a Haitian going down
to the local duck pond snatching up a goose as the same thing as a hunter going outside and
shooting a goose with a shotgun he's like well well white people go out hunting all the time so
what's wrong with the Haitian going down to the local pond and just snagging one it's like dude do you
do you have like how barbaric are you like seriously do you have like no concept of fair chase
do you have no concept of like being a warden of the place that you love do you have no concept
of like decency and like an appreciation for beauty and ambiance like walking around
a local park when you see what is basically like a domesticated goose walk around that's
very accustomed to people like people go down there with their kids and you know feed bread to
the ducks and shit like this and and you think that's the same thing as like a hunter going out in
the woods and decking himself out in camo buying a goose tag that goes right back into
conservation of like wild wetlands and such taking a gun out and shooting it in a very humane way
and then like reporting you know if he shot one that has like a bird tag on
ankle and reporting it to the DNR so they could track movements of migratory birds.
You think that's the same thing as some like 65 IQ Haitian going down to like the local
pond and just grabbing something and wringing its neck and from a bunch of kids.
Like what the fuck is wrong with you, dude?
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Yeah.
These people, they're,
they fucking hate us so much
that they,
defaults of the absurd to try to justify the shit that they do.
I mean, none of these people have, I got a, my substack this morning was about this email
that I got from some fucking shitlib up in New York who wanted me to explain myself because
I did a video on the history of Haiti.
Fuck you.
Not explaining myself.
I'm not explaining myself to you.
I'm not fucking,
first of all,
it's like somebody,
there was a really good threat on Twitter today
about how,
you know,
these fucking commies,
the way they frame their questions
is to try to,
once you argue
and try to answer their question,
you've basically accepted their framework.
Oh, yeah.
The left is so good at this.
Yeah.
And my response,
you know,
to this thing about, I have friends that are Haitian. I have Haitian Catholic friends. And, you know,
some of them are so much nicer than a lot of the people around me who call themselves Christians and
everything. And I just really want you to explain, you know, what is the problem here? Explain
yourself and everything. And I was like, you're not my people. I'm not going to explain myself to you.
There's no conversation to be had here.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of our guys, maybe it's because of like the intellectual foundation of where a lot of us have come from in our thing as it relates to like the 2017, like facts and logic, own SJWs and such.
Or maybe it's just a way that a lot of us came to our opinions we hold.
We came to it through like careful inspection of ideas and this is why we hold the positions that we have.
people had this idea that like you have to engage in like an argument or a discourse with people because that's how a lot of us got to our position when really I think a lot of our guys who just are thinking of ourselves as an up and coming elite like no you simply I mean credit to charlemagne as well because he was kind of bringing this up on the stream out last night I listened back to it today when he was talking about just the standard deviation and IQ from people like us to Haitians it's like yeah it's a couple standard deviations.
a way that you can't just even understand how these people think.
And I think that's a way more healthy position for a lot of our guys to have.
It's like, no, this isn't a discussion.
I'm going to win.
I'm going to set the tempo.
I'm going to set the frame.
And you're going to fucking live with it.
And I don't really care what you have to say.
I'm not arguing with you.
The time for discussion is long past.
Things are like the stakes are far too high at this point.
I just, I just don't care.
I mean, I've like over 2,000 people blocked on Twitter at this point.
Like, I'm not going to fucking argue with you.
Get the fuck out.
You're my enemy.
No way.
I'm going to rule over you.
And if you don't like it, pound sand.
This is exactly what I told the person.
I said, I don't know you.
And from your comments, I can see you're not my people.
We don't share values.
So I will not be responding with an argument defending my position.
And I have no interest in convincing you of anything.
I mean, what else is there to say?
Yeah.
Excellent.
I mean, I see this a bunch of my Twitter.
And I try to give like kind of example.
to people like this when they follow my account.
This is one of the great lessons that you'll find in Red Pill and Manistphere stuff is about
framed control and upsetting frame and such because it's very important when you're having
relationships with women, but it's also just good and many other aspects of your life.
But, you know, like I make a point and then some like shitlib or some like, you know, like
brain dead, low bird basically will come into the comments and say, oh, so that means you must advocate
X, Y, Z.
It's like, okay, well, what grown man uses the word advocate?
You know, like you're only doing this for two reasons.
One, you're either looking to come in here and argue and try and catch reading like a gotcha statement or something.
Or two, you're looking for someone to lead you basically.
You're looking for a shepherd.
And I don't have time for either of those people.
I don't have time for arguments and I have no time for like being a shepherd for you.
It's like come to your own conclusions.
If you like what we're about, it's like Thomas says, right?
We're not Jehovah's Witnesses.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought I'd mention this to you if you hadn't seen it a little bit off topic,
but they're reporting that Michigan ballots will now only be counted after proof that signatures have been verified following a GOP lawsuit.
Oh, wow. Interesting.
We need to strengthen the Peninsula Vanguard chapter up there and start getting things done.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's definitely something that our guys can get involved with.
And if anybody in the chat right now is listening, sign up to protect the vote for this fall, particularly if you're in a swing state.
We've been chilling it on the OGC streams, and we think it's really important.
So it's the least you can do.
Apparently, I mentioned the OGC email yesterday on the stream.
Yeah.
Well, it's good.
And it's great that people are, people want to get involved.
You know, they want, they want information.
And then once they get the information and they meet with, you know, like-minded people,
they want to get involved.
And I think Alabama is one of the chapters is leading the way.
Yeah.
The boys down there and down south are doing some good work.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
We got some really exceptional guys in all of our.
chapters. I've been very impressed with the quality of people that have signed up and have
wanted to join in on the OGC in our chapters. There are some really impressive dudes.
Yeah, I saw some pictures of the Virginia chapter getting together today. That
looked like fun. I wish I could have been there. Yeah. Yeah. The Virginia guys,
they definitely take on the the fratboy persona quite a bit, don't they? I love it.
It's great. It's great. Harvey's great. Harvey's great. He's hilarious.
Well, anyway, let's wrap this up.
We could talk about this all night, but it's, you know, only so much you can say about
conservation, you know, if we start trying to get down into the weeds when we have no
power to do policy positions now.
But I think, to me, the solutions are very simple.
I mean, very simple.
Less kick about 20.
to 40 million people out of the country.
Cleaner energy.
And, yeah, conservation of the environment
that hunters, the people who are already concerned
about the outdoors, start a movement, start a pack.
You know, maybe some of these pro-gun packs
have done really incredible things
like National Association for Gun Rights and everything.
Maybe National Association for Gun Rights
has a little offshoot of, of,
conservation. And yeah, I mean, I just think it starts and goes from there. Yeah, there definitely
are organizations that have done really good work and continue to do good work. But
they're definitely a lot of old heads. You know, so things like Boone and Crocket Club,
Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Out Foundation, Safari Club International, Dallas Safari Club,
all of these organizations, they're definitely looking for new blood. I mean,
hunting is one of those sports that is decreasing year over year because you know like a it overindexes very highly with boomers and not very mid-millennials and zoomers do it um that's partially because like the traditions haven't been passed down it's partially because there's a cost entry and a barrier to entry to do it but uh either way um you know our guys should be getting involved with it in any way they can and uh the one last thing i will promote is if people want more of a um no i
hands-on look as to what is going to happen to the entire third world if the white man isn't in
charge of the resources there you know i've been bringing this up recently i'm just blown away that
under the current regime and the current like pers post nernberg order that like the united states
has to respect the sovereignty of a country like sierra leone and so it could just like freely
waste all the megafauna in that country you know because for some reason it's ridiculous you're
inferior people who don't have access to those resources the same way that we do and you're just
going to waste all of them. And when the megafauna are gone, they're not coming back.
But I point everyone to the excellent documentary from the 1960s Africa, Adio.
Definitely go and take a look at that. It is an absolute must for anyone in our circles.
And you will see what happens when, you know, the white man leaves places like Kenya, Tanzania,
Rhodesia, South Africa, and leaves it to native hands what they do to the local wildlife and such.
And it's truly barbaric stuff.
Yeah, definitely got to check that out. I haven't checked that.
that one out. I just wrote it down so that I can, when I get a chance, I can. I'm sure it's
probably on YouTube, right? Yeah, yeah, it's on YouTube. And I actually think that Martin, Captain
Drever actually tweeted out the whole documentary fairly recently. So people can just go and watch
it straight from his Twitter account. Be warned, watch it on empty stomach, because there's
some very barbaric scenes of, you know, Native Africans and what they tend to do to the wildlife there.
So just be warned.
All right, man. I appreciate you. Take care. Talk soon.
All right. Thanks for having me on beat.
