The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1141: The 'Robber Barons' Who Tried to Save America w/ Stormy Waters - Part 3

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

143 MinutesSome Strong LanguageStormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm.Stormy returns to conclude a look into what came to be known as The Business Plot as well as the true "America First."Stormy's Twitter AccountPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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How's it going, Pete? Happy to be back. Good, man. I think this will finish it, talking about the robber barons of old. And I think this is the one everybody's waiting for. We're going to start getting into the specifics of America first. The real America first. The real America first. And what did people actually believe back then? And we're not even talking about them. We're talking about what are the common person on the street believe? So where do you want to start?

Let's start with the America First Committee. The America First Committee is a really, really interesting thing because we talked before on previous episodes about the American Liberty League and the men that made that up. And those men didn't go away. And we discussed at the end what it took to stop those men because it really was the most powerful men in the country. trying to frankly save the country and to give you an idea at the time the

America First Committee was formed it really only had four policy planks I'll get into those in a second but the overarching narrative was to keep America out of any military intervention in Europe, right? Because there was no military action happening anywhere else in the world. The Pacific hadn't kicked off yet. And it was announced on the day that Lend lease started, right? Because Roosevelt campaigned just as Woodrow Wilson campaigned. And these men that feds,

was not lost on these men. You campaigning on keeping us out of war means nothing because less than 20 years ago well within the professional lifetimes of these men. How long does a man usually have in a career 30 years? Most of these men were roughly in the same positions as they were in World War I. and they remember 30 years ago,

Woodrow Wilson campaigned on vehement anti-interventionism and literally his only campaign slogan was Wilson kept us out of war and one of the most famous speeches that FDR gave on the campaign trail

was that he no American young man is going to go off to some foreign land and die in some foreign conflict. The only way that that would happen is over his dead body, if only that were true. Because unbeknownst to most of America, but not unbeknownst to people in elite, circles and the Hall of Pals of Power is that Roosevelt was not only planning on intervening in Europe, but had been since the midway through his first administration. So like the man literally, I mean, from the very beginning, Woodrow Wilson was an idiot, right? Woodrow Wilson didn't run Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson was a lot.

In his second term, he was a lot like Joe Biden. And I mean, really, we don't have TV cameras. But we didn't have TV cameras back then. But you can imagine. It's pretty well known that his wife, his wife was doing a lot of the same things that Joe Biden's wife was doing. And the Colonel House was just basically running the show. 100%.

Who did Colonel House work for? I think he worked. for the city of London. Yeah. It's for our Barrett, or Baruch work for the city of London. Yes, correct. That is 100% correct.

Literally just like we see today. It's no different. It's the same interest groups doing the exact same things. I caught your interview with Tom Luongo last night. And I agree with almost everything he says. What he knows about like the motivators in the financial world, what he doesn't know is that is that they're roughly paralleled or at least his views are paralleled in like the private defense or private defense industries and and we'll say like it's generally

called risk capital but it's not really like i mean vc is risk and yes we all know now i mean some of you guys that have followed me on Twitter for a couple years. I'm suspended right now for being a bad boy. I got a 12 hour this morning. For something like I posted like a week ago, somebody was talking about like inheritance tax. Basically the persecutive inheritance tax that England is trying to throw down on its farmers. Some communist was like, yeah, well, my guy this will increase production you know how can you not think it's going to increase production my guy and i guess it's something like how about i cave your head and with a rock will that increase production my guy it'll it'll make the world a better place oh god communist

brain splattering it definitely increases production and it sure as shit increases motivation like it's a motivated workforce but um it's the same people again for roughly the same reasons what happened in 19 the reason that we had 1929 is because in 1929 there's a for those that don't know there was a cataclysmic financial crash right like massive um that was global. It was the very first global, I can't even call it market crash, because it was an entire economic crash. It wasn't just like the stock market. It affected all aspects of sociopolitical economy. It was Wall Street and Main Street. And it went all the way around the world really fast because at that point in time, the reserve currency or the currency of trade was the pound sterling. And in World War I, we lent our banks lent the Brits a tremendous amount of money at the behest and guarantee of Woodrow Wilson and his administration. Nobody, everyone says like the bankers pushed them into some bankers, yes, but U.S. bankers, not so much because at the time, like, Germany was kicking people's asses.

So once the Rothschilds were tapped out and they had to go to America for capital, like they're good and well getting their ass beat. So who the fuck wants to lend to a, like, would you lend a bunch of money to the Ukrainian government right now? no no not at all the only way that like j p morgan is extending a huge line of credit is if you know the go like the you know pharmaceutical animated corpse of joe biden you know holds a gun to his head that's the only way that's happening because it's just happening no other way so um obviously The Brits did not pull out of World War I okay and the reparations money that they

tried to get from from Germany couldn't come in fast enough to cover the interest on all the sovereign debt and the pound blew up and England defaulted and a lot of our banks defaulted because basically the Brits just stiffed everybody and you had the great crash of 1929, which basically ended the American Golden Age. So it was actually the sins of World War I coming home to Roost that ended America's golden age. Everyone says, oh, the stock market was just unrealistically high. It kept on going up and up and up. Yeah, as Mark Antrieson on Joe Rogan or any other, one of his appearances will tell you, like, yeah, innovation does that. Innovation creates value out of nothing. Sorry libertarians and Austrians.

Like, an economy is not a thing that lives in a vacuum. And for it to exist in a vacuum, which it does have to, under the tenets of really either Keynesian or Austrian economics, the only room inside this vacuum bubble is for buyers and sellers making entirely rational decisions for the purpose of getting a the highest price and be the most value depending on what side of the transaction you're on and these are the only people that are allowed inside this vacuum

and that's not real. Do we think that, what do you think, Pete, what would you say influences oil markets today more? The rational decisions of buyers and sellers, going about price discovery in a free market or the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design.

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you know what i mean like went on tour like you know when they they don't really let that troll on tv much for good reason for good reason she is horrific she's a horrific human being and that's just not be that's not because any ethnic animosity i may have or my preference to uh anglo-saxon ubermensch and old stock American Jerome Powell, but just because she is very dumb. Her PhD thesis, she's an academic and has never actually worked in the real world, was on labor theory of economics.

Labor theory of economics is also known as literal Marxism, not like the pretend Jane Liz Lindsay kind or the pretend boomer con kind, but actual kind. Her husband is the one. world's foremost Marxist economist, if such a fucking ludicrous thing could exist. Out of Berkeley, I believe, or Stanford, I can't remember which. But she tried to impose a $80 oil price cap to stick it to Putin.

And the Europeans are like, yeah, it's a good idea. We're going to do a price cap. And then people in the market were like, this is a terrible idea. This is really, really dumb. you should never, ever, ever, ever talk about this again and never talk in public again. And it's kind of disappeared. But yet we have, what is Russia? Russia's like what, 18% of global production?

No, I think it's more than that, right? It's got to be more than that. Oil? Yeah, I'm thinking like oil and we'd have to include that gas, right? But yeah, it's massive. It's at least 20% of the market. percentage sorry guys for

dying on my keyboard wow are you getting 12% of global oil yeah 12% of global oil 21% of global energy okay yeah that's incredible well that's another reason why the United States can put

a put sanctions on on them even blow up their pipeline and they're still fine I mean the rubles the rubles crashing now and people think that that's like Oh, we're taking him out. How many times we have crashes here? Come on.

Stop it. Yeah. Like the ruble crash. I mean, it was bound to happen. Just like, you know, that's like everyone's like, oh, Bitcoin's crashing now as it goes from like 100 to 90. Like they forget the up from 8,000 part, which was like five years ago. Yeah, but, you know, oil makes up 45% of the Russian.

Russian federal budget so oil revenues so they thought they could you know do this but so we're going to sanction the largest oil per one of the largest single oil producers in the world and the largest single oil producers in the world and the largest single one of the largest single oil producers in the world is currently at war with its neighbor and the pipeline infrastructure runs through that neighbor, but yet oil doesn't move. And then what happens next is, last year we have war in the Middle East

where, I don't know, I'd say 50% of global energy comes from. So that's some total of what we're at, 70%. percent of global energy production in those two nations in those two areas and only because we haven't opened it up here yes but so 70 percent of the world's oil market is technically on fire right yeah and oil has and they're and they're blowing up pipelines and they are um you know downing oil tankers with drones so we haven't seen oil move past 70 This defies all credibility. Like this is, yeah, the oil market is rigged, but rigging something is expensive.

It's really expensive. And it's a good microcosm for what, like the one thing like Luongo talks about with the Eurodollar system is that he doesn't talk about what it does and why it's so pernicious. which I think is very important. So basically what the Europeans, and this is why I'm actually not upset that their pipeline got blown up. Fuck them. You don't get America paying for your entire national defense

and you go buy oil from someone else. Buying our energy is the least they should be doing. I'm sorry Eurobrose, but it's true. Like you can't even contribute 2% of your GDP. In fact, for the large portion of the history, less than 1%. And at the same time, you're basically expecting us to foot the bill for the largest single line item budget item on the federal government.

And it should be the largest single line item on any government. You expect us to pay for that. And then you also want to just buy oil from the person that we are paying to defend you from. Like it wasn't for us. Like, Russia could just take you. It's, I am, I know it's an unpopular take, but when you put it next to the fact that, yes, America blew up the pipeline, or the Brits actually blew up the pipeline. And America didn't really care that they did. because fuck them.

So in the rare instance, I kind of agree with Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and Victoria Newland. But, yeah, America didn't blow up that pipeline. Sorry, bros. I know there's tons of Euro guys that'll tell you about how it had to be America. And I'm sorry for the tangent, Pete.

But the very first person, yeah, the very first person to announce the detonation of the Nord Stream pipeline. Who is he? It was on Twitter. The Polish Secretary of Defense. He posted a picture of the gas bubbling up from the sea floor. And it said,

Thank you, America. What a fucking odd thing to say, right? Why would you say that? Why would you say that publicly? like okay let's say America did do it and a defense minister of a NATO country takes to social media to rat out the United States to the world what did we do to Julian Assange what are we trying to do to Snowden and you're gonna like fucking breathe oxygen in a sphere of US control? Like, you shouldn't be drawing breath. I mean, there's, that made absolutely no sense

to me. All right. Like, nobody that fucking airs out US secrets like that, especially secrets of US misdeeds will continue to draw breath if the US has anything to say about it. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28th to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge warehouse sale is back. We're talking 10. Thousands of your favorite Lidl items all reduced to clear. From home essentials to seasonal must-habs, when the doors open, the deals go fast. Come see for yourself.

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I can totally agree with that. But this Polish defense minister is a very interesting human being besides being married to one and Appleball. I thought you'd like that. He is, and this will be breaking news on the P. Quina show, because I don't think I've heard anybody else say this, at least in our spheres. So this Polish defense minister is a nobody, an absolute nobody.

He's a poor, unimpressive, unacademically gifted, uncollegial sports gifted human being, a really mediocre person. But somehow, this poor Polish nobody gets a full ride to Oxford. Strange. It gets stranger. While at Oxford, his first year at Oxford, he gets invited to join the Bullington Club. Do you know what the Bullington Club is, Pete? No, that I do not know.

The Bullenden Club is like skull and bones if it was somehow more secret and more exclusive because it is both of those things. I believe it's five members a year. So four years, at any moment time, there's 20 members. And you have to be, which would call it them, your invitation. has to basically be like chaired by one person or sponsored by one person and then agreed on by all of all every other member of every including not just the freshman class but all the other members um but the class of people so it would be like those other five guys other the other

four guys are going to really be the determining factor of you know who the next person is going to be in their grade year. Do you know who that person was that vouched and sponsored him? Because it's not something you can apply for. It's something that you have to be just picked. One young Boris Johnson. Who else was in the Bowlington Club, the freshman year bowling team club? well

that would be one David Cameron current Secretary of Defense or whatever their equivalent of Secretary of Defense I can't remember there's one other one I can't remember some of their famous

politicrat in Britain was the third one and Magic number four was Lord Natty Ross child. Nady Rothschild owns that other pipeline that went online the exact same day that Nordstream blew up. Probably didn't, nobody probably heard about it. It's a big pipeline, but I mean, the news kind of gets drawn, you know, drowned out by, you know, a pipeline being exploded

by a foreign actor and kind of takes all the air out of the room. But it runs from Norway to Poland. It's one of the umbrella companies of the same group that does Jeannie Energy. You may have heard of Jeannie Energy. I think we talked about Jeannie Energy. It's a Rothschild. They, I think they're Golan Heights. I think they control the oil production on the Golan Heights. Yes, yes. They tried to also propose South Stream. They also have Dick Cheney on the board. Interesting. And Doni Rumm, and the late great Donny Rumsfeld. Yeah, they were a big deal in Iraq war days.

But anyways, these, they were trying to do something called South Stream. So basically, the US didn't go into Iraq for oil and it didn't go to Iraq for Israel. It went to Iraq for Israel and oil for Israel. There we go. All the, all of the shitlibs at the time were correct. it was blood for oil, just not oil for us. U.S. net oil imports decreased after the Iraq war. But a country that has no natural resources of any kind

outside of human capital, but that is arguable. It is of arguable value. Suddenly is the seventh largest energy exporter. Israel doesn't have any natural gas or oil under its ground. The holy land is not that fully when it comes to energy independence. But Iraqi Kurdistan right next door does. And that's who Saddam was firing his missiles at. Remember when we invaded?

Yep. He was supposedly mad at the Qataris, right? Or sorry, the, was it Qatar? Kuwaitis. Kuwaitis. Kuwaitis. how come he didn't fire any of those scud missiles into Kuwait was it really Kuwait that was stealing his oil

I don't know but I know after he was thrown out of power the country that he fired missiles that stole all his oil and now exports it they have a thriving energy industry now seventh largest in the world amazing completely non-existent anyways, let's head back. We're going to have to get back to the 20s at some point.

Yeah, let's let's let's let's let's that I'm back. America first committee. So speaking of skull and bones, it was founded at Yale law school. One of the men that were, was a part of it to just to get you an idea of who made up these these fine gentlemen. You had a young Gerald Ford and a one, Potter Stewart, a future Supreme Court judge.

And the main policy point was to keep America out of war in Europe. The founding of the America First Committee happened after the defeat largely on the continent of the other European powers, right? So the Battle of Britain, England, getting getting its ass kicked in the air, had already been underway for two months at this point. Lend-Leese had just been announced and everybody started to see the setup. Everybody tries to say that Charles Lindbergh was a Nazi sympathizer. I would say he's a Nazi respecter only because of having toured there and seen their capabilities, right?

as in like the same way I respect Russia. I don't love Russia. I'm not sympathetic to Russia, but they have more nukes than we do. And apparently as of like last month, they have new ways of delivering those missiles. Or sorry, those warheads. So I respect their military capability.

And that's basically what Lindberg. That was his opinion as well. But what about Stormy? But what about the pictures? the pictures of of Mr. Charles Lindberg with Herman Guring and he was awarded the

what is it, the Iron Cross I can't remember the medal. Thomas 777 somewhere is chimping at me. I'm sorry Thomas, I can't remember. Keep going, keep going, I'll look it up. You catch them in the corner of your eye, distinctive by design, They move you, even before you drive.

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purpose of gathering intelligence on Reich airpower and aircraft production. Hermann Gurin is an aviator. Charles Lindbergh was the most famous aviator in the entire world times like 100. He was like Elvis. People got trampled when he landed in Paris. There were so many people

rushing the airfield, which is a pretty fucking wide open space, not exactly crowded. And 20 people were still crushed at it. It's estimated a really good book to read if you can get your hands on it. It is hard to find.

But, you know, let me pull it up. It is written by the aid to camp of one of America's most famous ambassadors, a former governor of Ohio, Myron T. Herrick. The book is titled Myron T. Herrick, friend of France, an autobiographical biography. It was written after his death. I mean, this guy's Uber famous at the time. The French actually put him on their currency, the five,

I think it's like the five franc piece. I can't remember for many years. A whole bunch of streets named after him, including the one that the U.S. embassy is on currently. And a bunch of statues all over the place. Basically, he was the only ambassador that didn't run away when the Germans in World War I were literally miles outside of Paris. It looked like everyone expected the Germans to be to capture Paris within a month. I mean, the government had already made plans to evacuate.

And Mr. Herrick didn't feel like going anywhere. So he got a bunch of howitzers and some Gatlin guns and a hundred Marines and turned the embassy into a fortress and was like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere. And the French loved him for that. He won the, he was awarded the Legion of Honor or whatever. He was the guy that received Lindberg in the landing of the super famous flight. So his account of what the public, he was also Lindberg's, it was the first that those two had met. And he would later, Lindberg would become the political protege of Myron. So if you want to know about Myron, or so if you want to know about Lindberg and his political worldview and where it came from.

uh myron is probably the place to start um but yeah this was probably the biggest event to happen in paris in a hundred years as far as like individuals coming to see a specific event that wasn't you know like beheading or you know something like that it was the biggest like public spectacle and he was the most popular man in the world charles lemberg was so herman guring like jumped out of his chair when the ambassador was like i think i could probably get mr charles limburg to come over um because at this point in time you know the germans were not doing so bad in the battle of britain and generally on the continent were viewed us unstoppable so a very famous german fighter pilot gets a chance to

show off all his new toys and the military might of a now strong Germany to the most famous pilot in the world. Of course. Absolutely. Right. So what if the war department would like, you know, who cares if the Americans learn how strong we are or see how many planes we crank out? I get to hang out with like, I don't know if he was Gurring's idol, but

the excitement like guring like it took him home like showed him his house he was super the pictures of um guring and lindberg are very very funny as far as like how excited and kid in the candy store guring looks it's it's pretty it's pretty awesome um but uh he was awarded uh what's what's the uh did you find the name of that that metal yeah it's the service cross of the germany Okay. Yeah, nobody, including Lindberg and everybody else at that dinner was expecting to get an award. Guring kind of surprised everybody. And of course, a bunch of pictures were taken. And a very hostile press took this. I believe because his associations and his intimacies with Henry Ford Edison and Myron, Myron Herrick. Myron Herrick is also a, besides a governor of Ohio, he was a big wig in Republican

Party politics and is the primary reason, what is it, Calvin Coolidge? Was that trying to think. I think it was Calvin Coolidge. I can't believe I'm blanking on this. But was a big reason that the Republicans had won the White House prior to FDR. No, Herbert Hoover, there we go. Fuck. Jesus.

Also, the same man who gave FDR his start in politics. And recounted often how it was the greatest mistake of his life. But he made the deal, which you'll find in that book, to give a position to a young Francis Dillinor Roosevelt. And the, what was it, the undersecretary of the Navy? It wasn't secretary of the Navy. He was the guy right below it. Second in charge of the Navy at the time of World War I.

And in his memoirs, he says specifically, he made, he was forced to make the deal, right, to get Herbert Hoover in, right, at the caveat of appointing FDR, who a vehement Democrat at that point, and an insane appointment for Republican administration to make. But he said that was the deal that he had to make with Mr. Bernard Baruch.

He says the, I can't remember what he, what words he use, but a lot of derogatory words that we probably shouldn't say on YouTube, if this is going on YouTube. But anyways, Mr. Myron was not a fan. But basically he, Lindbergh's associations had raised a lot of eyebrows of a certain group. And when that photo with Gering was taken, the very next week, it was on the front page of the New York Times calling him a Nazi sympathizer, saying he was going there because he loved the Nazi so much. And that is the narrative to this day. and the entire time he was asked to go there by his country.

He would later go on to serve his country several more times, except under far riskier circumstances. Also, while a majority of the country's media was decrying him as a traitor and a Nazi, neither of those allegations, the fact that they were coming from the halls of power and literally out of the mouth of the president of the United States of America.

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stumble us into on purpose or in ignorance. Stumble us into war with Russia, a war that was easily avoidable and a war that 80% of the country, by far more now, but let's just say 80% of the country because that number is going to come back in a little bit. 80% of the country oppose. So a war that the American people don't want, and a war that was a war of choice for a small,

privileged, powerful group of people in the American government, the deep state, whatever you want, whatever term you want to use, or through whatever lens you want to use, right? It is undeniable that the conflict we find ourselves in with the ancient Russian people and the country that is over a thousand years old is one entirely by choice

and a choice that was not made by the people that would end up fighting it. But let's just say that happened and Joe Biden at the same time telling America and all the newspapers telling America that Stormy Waters is a traitor, would I have the commitment to my nation

and what that nation is currently and what it once was if I would have the decent calmness of Seoul to basically not be be moved by any of any of the negative comments being made by the president or the media. And I would serve my country in a war that I hated, in a war that I didn't support, and in a war that most of America didn't support, including the men fighting it. Would I have the courage and temerity to do that?

don't know if I would, but he did. And that's the type of American you're taught to hate. Just typing Charles Lindbergh into YouTube or into your podcatcher of choice and you will see hundreds, literally hundreds of resentful little people that have never sacrificed anything in their life. known no hardship suffered none telling us how much of a Nazi how much of an anti-Semite how much of a horrible person this man is and what's even funnier is that his service was secret right as in he would get no credit no newspaper would ever report that

Charles Lindbergh is in fact not a traitor and in fact fighting for America in a warplane. As we speak, he's in fact not a traitor. Nobody was ever going to know that and he knew that at the time. So it's not like he was doing it to try and get out of the allegations of being called a traitor. He was doing it. Again, here's that word that we don't see. see any more. He was doing it because he felt the sense of duty.

His nation was at war. So therefore, he was going to fight its enemies, whether he got credit for it or not, no matter what the media said about him, no matter what the fucking present of the United States in the White House at the time said about him. So it was published 25 years after he left. or basically after the war was over, because that's about the amount of time that he could get in trouble

for releasing classified information, which, you know, at the time that he was doing it, his combat missions into Japan. And we don't know, but there is a lot of suspicion that he took part in the Doolittle Raids. But what we do know is that this man flew a hard

186 combat hours in the Pacific. That is about three times as much as a typical combat airmen would see over their tour of duty. And nobody was going to know about it. Nobody was going to, he wasn't going to come home and no longer be called a traitor. He was going to come home and still be called a traitor. And no one would know what he did or that he in fact wasn't a traitor. It was illegal against the law for him to tell anybody what he did. And he still did it.

And I don't know. When I think about that, I don't know if I would be that brave. I don't know about you. I mean, it's a difficult choice to make, especially when you, when you look at the way they treat people and the way they hound people. And even back then, I mean, McCarthy was already a drunk, you know, when all the hearings started and everything. But, you know, what they did to them just drove them to drink that much more.

You know, so it's not, you know, people have a tendency to believe because we're in this information age and things can get out over the Internet in a split second that, you know, back then it would be harder to slander someone. Well, not when everybody's reading the newspaper, not when the newspaper. or not when the newspapers are, you know, all printing the same thing. Yep. And they're controlled and they're being told what to be, what's a print. Yep.

Or the radios. Yeah, they drove people. They drove people to become pariahs as just as much as they do it nowadays. Even more so because at least on the internet, you can post and you could say, no, this is not true. At least, then we also, yeah, attacking you. But we also had a more moral society back then. So people leapt to their morality a lot quicker. And they took their morality a lot more seriously.

So if they thought somebody was treasonous or something like that, that meant something to them, it's not thrown around like we like most people do today. Oh, yeah. I mean, Tucker Carlson was called a traitor. I mean, Donald, we thought the president of the United States was a traitor and an active Russian spot. I mean, like, they just throw these words around, like they don't mean anything, but back

then you were 100% right. These words meant things, which makes them all that more pernicious about how they were being thrown around. Because the progressive, I hate to even call it the fucking New Deal, right, or the New Deal regime, the New Deal administration, right? because that's not what the men at the time fighting what FDR was doing to the country thought. On the last episode I did with you, Pete, we read some of the speeches that were given by the head of the Democratic Party and former presidential candidate Al Smith. and what he thought the New Deal was

and he had just gotten FDR elected so it obviously wasn't going basically what he was told was going to happen in the FDR administration did not happen and something else happened instead so like I hate to even call it the New Deal regime because the men at the time saw it as

communism being driven by a foreign group of people both within and without and from without. So the entire New Deal regime came kind of crashing down on the, uh, on him and pretty much all of the other men that stood up to it. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design. They move you. Even before you drive, the new Cooper plugin hybrid range.

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It was a revolution no different than 1776, as it fundamentally changed the governance structure and the relationship, the dialogue between American citizen and his government forever. And I hate to bring up Mark Antriesen again, but he's a really smart guy. I respect that guy a lot. But I don't think anybody, even in our spheres that know how pernicious the regime has, I don't think, I think what he said on that Joe Rogan interview came as a surprise to most people. It came as a surprise to me and I fucking think about the shit every day. I'm pretty smart. Like, the level of persecution at like a granular level was just shocking to me.

And like the, the fact that like Elizabeth Warren has her own attack agency that not only isn't in the Constitution anywhere, but isn't accountable to anybody. because she's a senator. She has no authority to have an agency, but she does. So like the agency isn't supposed to exist. You can't sue it. You certainly can't stop it. You can't like call up a number and talk to a manager that like there's no,

you're just being, it may as well being, it may as well be persecution from a demonic entity, right? It's just, you know, this persecution that is happening everywhere all at once. And you can't figure out where it's coming from. There's no way to put your finger on it to get a hold of what's, you know, what's afflicting you. There's no, you know, command structure that you can air your grievances with. It's just insane. And all this came from the New Deal.

And I don't think he, I don't think we, I think we've become a little bit hyper-focused on a specific, a specific aspect of the regime. And we kind of miss, we sometimes miss the meta, you know, of it all, right? Like, the thing in its entirety. but anyways if it wasn't if it was anybody else besides Charles Limburg I think they would have been sunk

because his popularity like I said was hard to describe or hard to contextualize in modern times anyways because like yeah there's famous people but there's also so many famous people and people that are famous in all these different ways

and there's all these really, like, different niches. But like Pete, to what you were talking about, about how there really was only newspaper and radio, and if you controlled those things, you literally controlled the entire public dialogue. Right? No one was, you know, getting, finding new bands on SoundCloud. Right?

The only music you were exposed to was the music that was shown to you. The only news that you were exposed to, your whole conceptual reality, and this is public consensus reality, was dictated through two business verticals, radio and print media, that's it.

You had total paradigm control. At least they thought. So, you know, when someone becomes very well-known, like, in those days, like, it was kind of similar in the 60s, kind of. But there was no, like, thriving subcultures or anything like that. So if you think of how popular the Beatles were, Charles Lindbergh was more popular. I think I have a better, maybe a, a, please. A stronger astronauts. Oh, yes.

Like Neil Armstrong. Yeah. Yes. Buzz Aldrin. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. So these were celebrities and national heroes at the same time, as well as international

sensations. Like, and being an astronaut was like quite literally like being in the Beatles. Like you were that, like, you were getting pussy that easy. And if the, if the astronauts have. happened to have you know been on stage a lot which they luckily they hadn't I'm sure panties would have been thrown at them as well but yeah so luckily Charles Lindbergh was popular he had a voice and he could he had really good advisors so the way he spoke was very much the way Donald Trump speaks

Also in that book by Ambassador Mr. Myron, he talks about, like, he heard Charles's speech and was like, it was so natural. He was basically just saying the whatever was on his mind, like, as it came into his mind, like, very, very much like Donald Trump. and Myron recounts how he's like to the average, you know, uninitiated observer, what he's doing looks very, very easy. But to an experience public speaker or rhetorician, like he was like a prodigy. It was Charles Lindbergh, like, you know, it wasn't taking like public speaking class. like he he just was a fucking natural very much like trump is and he spoke in a

i urge everyone to listen to i know uh kind of like the hitler ai translation speeches are going viral which is great i think that's awesome because if everybody if anybody still thinks that national socialism was about you know just hating Jews or

you know global conquest or any of the you know American secular state religion belief structures the second you hear you know

Adolf Hitler speaking and what he's speaking about all that goes away immediately like if you replace the word Germany that could have been any America like any that could have come out of Donald Trump's mouth

well not so much Donald Trump because he he seems to like or be comfortable with our media environment right probably because he's so good at playing them for fools like he literally fucking lives not just lives in their head rent free like he owns them they're they're so reactive to him he basically puppeteers them um but outside of outside of that all of the other aspects of the nsdap's you know policy positions

it's i think it's it's 20 planks you would want any u.s politicians you would want any u.s. politicians to be saying the exact same thing and you're like oh maybe this was about something different i urge everyone to look up the uh it's called the demoyne iowa speech right so charles lynn bird on september 11th 1941 in demoyne iowa is a speech i'm gonna oh i forgot i can't because i'm I'm in the timeout box. I would post it to Twitter, but when I'm allowed back on Twitter, I will do that. Or anybody that's listening, any of the early listeners, thank you for, you know, supporting one of the best guys in our sphere with your money.

Like the thing that matters, Mr. Pete Quino-as. But yeah, if you get access to this early and, you know, it comes out quickly, just start dropping that speech on your timeline. People need to hear it. It's that good. It really is. And that'll give you a really good idea about what America First was about. I'll leave some stuff out so the man himself can tell you,

because I think it'll be better that way. But what he did say, what caused outright insanity, in if the press hated him before. But again, so we say the press hated him and FDR hated him. We're vehemently denouncing him. It was very much like a Donald Trump phenomenon where all of the consensus media and consensus policy, you know, people and the, you know, important people, all 100% agree that Donald Trump is the worst and the, you know,

the vast majority of the country's like, yeah, we don't. give a shit. We think he's great. 80% of America supported America first. Its policy positions of non-interventionism, right? So 80% of the country was against any type of military involvement, whether it be logistical support, arms support, and most of all, you know, troops on the ground, 80% of the country was isolationists. They say isolation is like it's a bad thing, like are these bad isolationists. Yeah, sorry, access to my nation's wealth isn't a fucking human right. Access to my prosperity and the most valuable things in my nation, which are farmers, boys,

in Iowa, bricklayers kids in New England, right, and farmer sons in the south. And some electricians kid on the West Coast, that's America's most valuable resource. And access to it is not a human right. Isolationism is probably the most noble thing that we can do, because frankly no other nation has the right to American blood I don't care if your nation has a right to exist or whatever I don't care you're not my people I don't give a shit about you you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you even before you drive new Cooper plugin hybrid range for Mentor, Leon and Terramar.

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Yes. You get to have your culture. You get to have whatever you have. Don't fuck with us. You know, if you want to, if there's something you want to trade, we'll have a talk. If not, you know, God bless. Don't fuck with us. Yeah.

But if you, but apparently, if they move here illegally and then they subvert the nation, they subvert the culture, they subvert the government, they subvert everything, well, that's okay. And they don't fight. No, and also- 98% of combat arms just happens to be one ethnic demographic. 96% of combat arms, M-OSs, sorry, 91% something like that. In the special forces, I think it's 80%, high 80s, in the regular, the broader Marine Corps and Army. It's white boys.

It's white American boys. That's who does the fighting. So I don't care how smart your Indian friend is. I don't care how nice your Venezuelan housekeeper is. I don't give a fuck. I don't care if they came here legal. I don't care if they flew here on wings they grew on their backs don't fucking care because they don't fight

and who fights well patriots fight so I guess they didn't assimilate did they I guess they really don't share our values do they because they don't fight they won't fight for those values so they're Therefore, they don't have them. Because you only believe something if you're willing to die for it. Anything else is a fucking hobby. And these people don't fight. So they don't believe.

So they don't share your values. They don't share your beliefs. Is Vivek Ramoswamy? Is he going to pick up a gun? Is he going to go fight? I don't think he is. Is what was that Chinese mother's? fucker Alex Wang was it Wang was running for office is he gonna pick up a gun is he gonna fight

no he's not because he doesn't believe and nobody has the right to have young Iowa farm boys trying to stuff their guts back in their stomachs as they scream because a certain group in 1933 decided that they They didn't even have a country, and they decided that they were going to declare war upon a nation. And a nation is not a country. A nation is a people. It's a race. Culture is ethnic.

Culture is genetic. Culture is racial. So they didn't have enough men to fight. So how were they going to fight this war that they just declared? They're not exactly a fighting people as Mr. Netanyahu is finding out right now because he can't get a certain subset of those people to fight. They refuse to. They're such a non-fighting people. They're such a people that doesn't fight that in their own country, they have to have mandatory draft.

because no one would join. You can tell who's, who believes something, by who is willing to die for it. And October 8th of 2023, or is it one fifth, one fourth of that population went to the airport on one-way flights. So whose land is it?

You know, it's funny. When I, when I moved to, after high school, when I moved down to South Florida. It was described to me. They were like, you know, it's the one thing about South Florida is, you know, you're going to find out that it's very transient. I didn't really understand what that meant until, you know, I didn't understand what that meant until years later when, you know,

when I learned other terms like rootless. Yeah, we're cosmopolitans. Literally everyone from Florida is from somewhere else. particularly South Florida. South Florida's like this. And really, anything south of Palm Beach is, you know, West Tel Aviv. Or North Cuba, or North Haiti, or North Puerto Rico, or Western Russia. or now Western Ukraine. The South Florida is a fucking mess.

I can't wait to get out of here. Luckily, I live in the last bastion of, you know, wasp culture and wasp demographics. But I'm sure that's about to change. Sooner or later, the population of Florida has tripled since COVID. It just doesn't agree with my, cultural soul. Florida is an ugly place.

It really is. Yeah. I don't fucking like the beach. Okay, so what else is there to look at? Nothing. It's flat. And it's either swamp. The true south.

Yeah, the true south, the Midwest, where people actually put down roots. That's what America was. Funny, that's the only place where men that fight come from. Mm-hmm. men that are going to be torn apart by sharks in the middle of the Pacific slowly bleeding out on a beach that they can't pronounce in Europe right that's where those men come from and those are the only men I find it very interesting that make up our sphere not to, you know, fire shots or whatever. I'm not going to. I am a New Englander.

That's where I was born and raised. And my family has been since the 1640s. But when it comes to, like, people in our thing, I find, like, the people from New York, no offense, that still live there, that choose to live there in the city, or all just wearing our thing around like a skin suit, like a fendi handbag or, you know, some Louis Vuitton duffel bag or, you know, name a shoe, right? It's a fashion accessory. It's the, it's the edgy, transgressive thing.

It's fun to talk about doing a racism They don't believe any of the things So few of them I've met a precious few From New York City That believe what I believe To the degree that I believe With the acceptance of the possibilities

and externalities that could one day show up at my door for believing what I believe. There are a few, and I love them very much. But for the most part, same thing with L.A. It's just a fashion accessory. They like to say the transgressive thing. They like to be seen as transgressive. But that's it.

I'll never be anything more than that. That's why you gotta both, you know, be a right-wing edge lord, but at the same time, don't let anybody say anything mean to our trans friends. Or anyways, I just find it so hilarious that they somehow believe that they take, that this is their thing, and we're along for the ride. You catch them in the corner of your eye, distinctive. By design, they move you even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range for Mentor, Leon and Terramar.

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But nothing could be further from the troop. I find it offensive, like, to the highest degree. Like, it's the insolence that gets me. But the men that, like those, they're no different than the people that had headed to the international terminal at Ben-Gurie.

at Ben-Gurion Airport, October 8th. Because if you ever make a move to actualize any of your beliefs, it'll be people like that that stop you. It'll be people like that that stab you in the back. Because if you ever seek to make it a real-world reality, it's no longer fun. it's no longer transgressive it's no longer pretend

you're ruining it is what you're doing right by making any steps towards actualizing any of the things that we believe that they say they believe but it seems that when we make moves

towards bringing our convictions into or concrete reality they screech and holler like I am tearing up that Fendi handbag

or I am pouring bleach over that Chanel sweater or whatever because I'm ruining their fancy fashion accessory they wear our heritage and our identity like it is a fancy dress

and I say dress because turns out most of you fucking faggots like to wear them or like boys that wear them nothing right wing about you you don't believe anything

I certainly wouldn't die for anything Not like those men in the Spanish Civil War did. Not like those men in the Battle of Berlin did. Both of them knew their situation was hopeless. In the Battle of Berlin, not only their situation, but their cause and their nation, was lost. And they still fought. And you guys, Kavich, whenever we, actualize any right-wing beliefs outside of the precious view but I think we have a problem of

people wearing our beliefs as fashion accessories and I think that's something that we're teething pain that we're going to have to go through you know you really can see like you mentioned the Spanish Civil War and you also mentioned Israel it almost brought me to tears when you're reading it Pete Yeah, well, brought me into tears every time I read that. The, the, when you look at how the nationalist handled the Spanish Civil War, so they had it in, they, I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't even like they had foreign invaders. I mean, technically, but it was a government. They had, they had elected, a government was elected that decided that they were going to.

this came out later, kill half the country, that they were going to kill half the people in the country. I never realized that. I had never known that. Yeah. Yeah, their goal was to kill 50% of the Catholics in the country. So what they, when you look at that and you know, and you know that the only people that fled north to France were the infirmed and the old getting out of the way of war and then they stayed there and fought, it really, goes to show that when you look at Israel and you just have people hopping over this fence and killing a bunch of people and taking it and taking some hostages and then running back and you know millions of people decide they're going to go home Israel's not a country Israel's not a people it's not a vacation destination yeah it's a place where people go

to have extended vacations to be around their own which you're not allowed to do pretty much anywhere in the West because of a certain group telling you you're a fascist if you do that yeah they don't have when you compare that when you compare the Spanish

and you compare them there's no there's no question who the better people are who the better breeding is who the better bloodline is there's the people who are going to stay and they're going to fight for their own not run

who the noble bloodline is because they have no because they have no home, no matter what they say about Israel. As soon as something goes, as soon as something goes wrong, they no longer have a home. They go to their other home or their, you know, wherever that may be. Yeah, these aren't a people to be. There are a lot of people who idolize them. Oh, God, I see it everywhere.

We wish we could have our own ethno state. No, it's like, yeah, yeah. Why can't you? When a couple, yeah, when a couple people get killed, you know, when a couple people get killed, what happens? Oh, we're going to, we're running home. We're going to run to Europe or we're going to run to the United States. Okay. The army should have been overflowing the very next day.

The army should have been overflowing, right? Just as every single recruiting station in the country was the day after nine of 11. The only people in that, the only people in that country who actually give a shit and are willing to die and willing to kill are the settlers. That's it. They're the ones who are like, we took this, fuck you. No matter what you think of that, we took this, fuck you, unleash us. Let us go, let us go kill Palestinians. Let us go kill the enemy. Yes. I actually respect them. Yeah. And I understand why they don't want to fight in the IDF.

I don't fucking blame them. Right. You got these, like, if you're on the, if you're on the kibbutz, like, you're fucking, you're the closest that one of a cosmopolitan people that have had no roots could be to one of those Iowa farm boys, right? Or one of those Appalachian coal miners kids. Right. You're doing work in the land.

They actually believe in what they're doing. Yes. And you're working the land. That's what you're doing. And a certain type of consciousness comes over you. I know this because I've taken to growing food. And a certain amount of peace comes over you, tending the soil. Like, it really does.

It clarifies your mind. I wish all of our elites We were out in the backyard today Getting things prepared for the winter Yep It makes you in tune with the seasons It makes you in tune with your surroundings And you bond with the land

It is a dialogue And no one can tell me different So those people on those cabusses Their connection to the land is now a spiritual one And it seems that that's funny because they're willing to die for it. And they also won't fight with the people that have to be forced to fight, the conscripts, the draftees.

Like, I actually respect that they won't join the IDF. Like that to me isn't a negative. Why would true believers want to fight besides trans people and other things? Yeah, the world's fighting force. Yeah, homosexuals. And I mean, sorry, but women. Yeah, when they occupied that church in Lebanon on the other day. And the one own that they could think of on the Christians,

the own and desecrate the church was to have a mock gay wedding, except for surprise, the bride or sorry, the groom and the groom, you know, made out at the end of the ceremony. Super tough guys. Like, again, I don't think that's the own you think it is. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back.

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See, Pete knows how to get the most out of me because I do have to be kept on topic especially

like that but so, The guys that, briefly, we'll talk about who else, before we get into Charles Lindbergh's fight with FDR, which basically it became because being as popular as he was, any radio station would fall all over itself to get Charles Lindbergh on the air. advertisers would pay insane multiples on what they were normally paying to be either before or after

a Charles Lindberg speech and it got to a point where the president's fireside chats president Roosevelt's fireside chats as painful as they are to listen to I urge you to start seeking out um Charles Limburg's radio appearances or uh I guess you can call them like addresses right and then find the FDR fireside chats either immediately after or immediately before because these men were addressing the nation ostensibly but they were having a debate like tit for tat right I mean, it was literally like they were on the debate stage going at it if you listen to them in order.

And it was a debate that FDR was losing. And Charles was winning. And after the Des Moines, Iowa speech in 1941, when he said FDR, the British race and the Jewish race were pushing the country into war that settled it. 70% of the country at the time, it's not my. These are here. They did the poll. This poll was, what is this page 18? This one.

Yeah, Gallup, Gallup 1938, and then Gallup, 1939, 1940. Yeah, most of these are going to be Gallup polls. And there's the O.P.O.R. surveys, which I think the organization is now defunct. but 68% of the population of America said that the Jewish race had too much control over the FDR administration. So it wasn't just him. In fact, Pete, I sent you a book the other day. What was it called? FDR in the Jews.

that's probably why i didn't remember because it's literally uh you know that obvious uh no i thought it was yeah okay um and i remember like they i remember reading a couple uh paragraphs i read like the forward in the in the introductory chapters of the book and basically the purpose of the book was because um it's one of those great things where they do like the actually it is happening or sorry it's it's actually happening but also it's actually a good thing and not a bad thing that you know the left so famously does um so fDR in modern times uh you know in the in the late 90s 2000s uh right around like the ken burns the suspicious history documentaries started hitting the air uh fDR is

memory was starting to get a lot of flak because he turned down or he rejected that boat full of uh jewish emigres that were fleeing manual labor um in germany and hey mann like you know africans i believe are like lactose intolerant some people are some races are labor intolerant but he rejected uh he basically turned away the ship right and that kind of came back into public consciousness and basically like there was this you know narrative going around that it's probably from some probably from some idiot conservatives i actually i guarantee you it was probably idiot conservatives saying like, you know, oh, FDR don't, you know, love the Semites like I do. In fact, FDR and the progressives were anti-Semites.

And that's why they turned away these. Go on. Always attacking the left as the, oh, they're the real racist or they're the real anti-Semites. And yeah, it's like, okay. It's like that Antioch declaration I was listening to. I don't know what the Antioch Declaration is. They saw Cryptos post about it. Everyone should follow Cryptos.

One of the best accounts. I saw his post about it, but I was listening, and I still didn't really understand what it was, or basically on whose authority it was issued. And then I was listening to probably the angriest I've ever heard, Orrin McIntyre. Just, I guess, just dropped a stream about this. about how to handle in you know disagreements and infighting inside your cultural uh political

movement that was a really good talk um very angry which is interesting and refreshing to hear i think aaron should get more angry erin if you're listening need to lean into that it's it's good not like being angry it's good being angry is not good no emotion is good in and of itself but um hearing him deliver you know points like that with with some anger and

and hostility in his voice it it makes Aaron hit much different and I in a very positive way so Aaron get angrier and

preferably right before your streams but yeah it was it's like what conservatives do man they go run to the left to try and cancel you know guys they don't like on the right and they anyways but yeah so this book came out to try and like it was basically like no no no in fact um the jewish people in the fdr administration was actually their relationship was so close in fact that the public started, you know, asking a lot of questions and getting very concerned.

And with the, his third election right around the corner, it basically became politically untenable for him to accept them because of all the other good things that he had done for the Jewish people in his administration thus far. So surprise, FDR, not an anti-Semite at all. but was so phylo-Semitic, in fact, that it became politically toxic. And if he had done any more of it, the toxicity would have been fatal to his third presidential, you know, aspirations. So that's why.

And the book that they that I encourage everyone to read it. I've only just started. But if it keeps on hitting like the intro chapters, I think it's going to be a really interesting book. But yeah, 70% of the country saw it the way that Lindberg did, that these were the three interest groups. when I think he says the FDR administration and FDR personally he was saying FDR personally but the guys that were backing him backing the America First Committee these were the same guys of the American Liberty League if you remember my talk about the American Liberty League in the last episode I did with Pete you'll get an idea who he's talking about when he says like

the FDR regime as its own separate interest groups because at least from the men that were in power industrial, financial, social capital, like that type of power, even though they weren't in the government because the progressives or sorry the new dealers these men saw it as a political regime that was being puppeteered by by bolshevik Russia and there's a lot of good evidence for it a lot of that evidence would be confirmed by what's called the bonona cables It turns out, like, they had some, the Russians had some pretty good encryption tech at the time. And their ciphers, it took, like, computing power of, like, the early 2000s to come around before we had the ability to bust it open. So I think the NSA cracked Venona, or at least released, announced that they cracked it and released it.

I believe in the early 2000s. But surprise. McCarthy was right. And not only was he right, all of these guys at the time of FDR were right and were more right than they even thought they were. Right. Like our first lady was literally a CC, a CP USA member. What the fuck?

Like Barack Obama. isn't a Marxist. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, isn't a Marxist. But the FDR regime was. The New Deal regime was. At least most of the people in prominent positions within the administration were.

And they wanted the U.S. in World War II, real bad. Because who is the other group of people that were withering against the onslaught brought on by the Vermont? or the Luftwaffe. It wasn't just the British, wasn't just the Jews, it was the Soviets. And the Soviets,

unlike the British, their lend lease. I heard you bring up the other day, Pete, and I don't think not a lot of people know it, is that at the time of the U.S. entry into World War II, most of our arms manufacturing weren't manufacturing weren't set up for

from the very beginning we're not set up for and we're not at the time making American Calibers Yeah it's like you I think the main character caliber they were manufacturing was 762 by 54 R yeah

what's that what's that for that's a Mosinagant yeah other Russian whatever that um rifles. Yeah, what is it?

The, the, the, um, the DPM? Is that the one with the plate on top of it? It looks like a dinner plate or a record on top of it. I can't remember.

Yeah, it's like the precursor to the RPD. Now, wait, is the RPD the fat AK-47? No, what's the, what's the,

what's the 762 by 39 belt fed? That's my favorite. I'm not a P-KM respecter. I think it's the RPD. I think it's the DPM. I think it's a DPM. Yeah, the, yeah, the DPM machine was the 762, let me see. 39, or was the DPM the 54R?

762, 54R. Okay. And that's the one with the weird disc magazine? Yep, and if you got to Battlefield Vegas, you can rent one and shoot it. Oh, man. And FDR, you know. Fed the magazines. That's great.

Hooray. Makes me fucking sick. The backers of the America First Committee were equally as interesting. They were all the men that I previously talked about with the American Liberty League. But you can an idea of this organization, it was the largest organization, political or otherwise, in the country. It had 800,000 paid. members paid

think about that like even today do you think you know act blue or DSA or do you think any

Democrat let alone Republican Republican is laughable but do you think any political action group in the U.S.

has 800,000 paid members paid isn't like they've received a check well you don't need that anymore because you have so many big

gigantic, you know, billionaires willing to fund you that, yeah, you don't need that. Well, you got to hire you. I mean, these were people collecting checks, not not submitting them. Oh, wow. Yeah. Insane. Well, they also like, like, it was also like a union. Their members also did pay, you know, did contribute. But they don't actually know how many members, right? even the president of the America First Committee even said, like, I have no idea how many actual members we have. There was, and what was the population? What was the population in 1940?

You have a much less loud keyboard as I do. I'm not subject to listeners to that. Population. USA was a population 132 million. Okay. Well, there was over a quarter of a million America First Committee members in just Chicago. That's huge. Again, 80% of the population not only agreed with the tenants of the America First Committee,

but I would probably say a majority of that 80% back to the organization themselves. So who come checks? You want to know what's really interesting about that? So those numbers that he's quoting, I'm almost 100% positive. He got those from a book called Hitler and Los Angeles, how Jews foiled Nazi plots against Hollywood. And in there, which was written by Stephen J. Ross, in there, they actually post these service. from the 30s asking people, you know, do you trust Jews? Do you use it? Yes. They, yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they was the American Jewish committee at the time that was doing those if I remember the book correctly. But yeah, those are, those had been long for, those numbers have been long forgotten until they decided to write this book to brag about how they foiled all these Nazi plots. What was the, do you remember what it said, uh, the percentage of, the U.S. population that trusted Jews that viewed the most trust were then?

It was between, it was between 70 and eight, uh, who they trusted? Trusted or distrusted? I'll take either or. Well, well, distrusted was between 70 and 80 percent. That makes about. Yeah, and you can even, and I'm on Amazon right now, and like, even one of the, one of the reviewers says, um, uh, but, blah, what is it? I'm, I found, I found, this book well written and fascinating. I was somewhat amazed at the strong sense of anti-Semitism and isolationism that existed in some of the more progressive areas of America at the time. I'm concerned that some of this thinking is raising its ugly head once again in

both Europe and America. This is a review from March 7, 2018. So yeah, they actually went through those numbers in this book and just, you know, basically told them themselves that, you know, it's like it's one of those things where you're, they do it all the time. They do it. It's so ridiculous that they do it all the time. They think that if they put that out there, that thinking people aren't going to ask questions, like, well, why? Well, why?

I mean, people in the 30s. You have to think that they think that they're the only ones that are thinking people. right so i i don't believe in i don't believe in all of the all of the sillier tropes about you know their uh in their cartoon representation of dr uh in the figure of dracula um i mean yes you know i understand st simon um for st simon saint simon's gonna have it we'll have his revenge i'm sure of it at least in europe um but the fact that the vampire can't see his reflection in the mirror, I find just so on the nose. I hate to even cheapen it with a pun like that, but they're not only incapable of self-reflection,

aha, but they're also incapable of seeing themselves as a broader group, right? So like in that in that public bragging like you'd think like oh this may be a bad idea for us more broadly you know like there's no there's no reflection at a group level either anyways yeah because the telling on themselves is constant it is a constant theme I find it just deranged but um some of the fiscal backers, the check cutters, the big ones. One is Julius Morton, governor of Nebraska and U.S.

Secretary of Ag under I believe Uber. He was kind of a big deal in the budding conservationist movement. Arbor Day exists because of this man. He made

And he made his money. I can't remember. I can't remember I made his money. Somebody should check it out. I'm sure it's interesting. Another guy was Joseph Patterson. It was a millionaire at the time. Very much of the establishment.

And was founder of the Daily News, which was the only newspaper talking sense. So everyone, when you go back in time, And this is the other thing. Like, our academics represent the opinions of the American people in past times by seeing, by basically looking in the newspapers, right, Pete? Like, if they want to see, like, what Americans were saying about a certain thing. Well, who owns the fucking newspapers?

Right? Like, I have never heard. Go on? Especially the New York Times. Yeah, right? Who said that that's the paper of record? Who says? How come I have never, how come I and probably you have never heard of the daily news, the newspaper?

We're not talking about the New York Daily News, are we? Yeah, in New York, you have the New York Daily News, you have the Post in the New York Post, and you have the New York Times. Let me see. I'd have to go back and check. But yeah, keep going on. It's just the daily news. The founder is Joseph Peterson, or Patterson, P-A-A-T-E-R-S-O-N. But I had never heard of the daily news, but it was the largest newspaper in the country, right, in the 40s and the 30s and the 20s.

How have I never heard of that? They had the largest circulation in the country. How come nobody ever goes and looks at the daily news when they're looking through microfilms about American opinion? Because I just found that out yesterday. And as of now, I am going to start looking at when I want to look at opinions of the past. That's what I'm going to look for. Because almost all of the historical, you know, academic work, right, is, you know, you know, when newspapers are involved,

or like, you know, going through archival newspapers, it's always the New York Times or the Washington Post. But one of the most interesting backers of America First and a frequent check cutter was one, John F. Kennedy. So you had Gerald Ford as one of the founding members, which I find that very interesting, that he was Nixon's VP choice. Right?

That's pretty cool. But anyways, John F. Kennedy would write handwritten notes because he would always put his checks in envelopes. And on the envelopes, each time would be like, this is the most vital, this is the most vital effort in the nation. this is the most important effort or the most important undertaking of the nation he was a vehement supporter of

america first john f kennedy his father as well right but his father is a business magnate and a foreign diplomat right very similar to like the mirenti herrick types you know i think herrick was a banker a successful banker because he's who that he's the guy who was um i think in the um in the very first episode when we were talking about um the very first episode of the robber barons we were talking about how um peer pot Morgan was trying to get out ahead of and stop before it really really really got underway like i think it was like um turkey and some other country you know like the The Eastern European countries had just started, right? And it would later melt over.

But the JP Morgan Company tried offering very large zero interest and loans to both of the belligerent nations. and Myron was the it was orchestrated out of Morgan and Morgan and Grenfell was the London office Morgan and Hodges was the Paris office it was operated out of the US embassy in France or in Paris France which was that Myron guy is operation

and and out of Morgan and Hodges so I find it really interesting that like the same guys that tried to stop World War I are also the same guys that tried to stop World War II

that makes sense I don't find that a coincidence at all oh and by the way they're also the most financially powerful people and you could say the most financially literate people in the country

so sorry libertarians sorry leftists turns out industrialists and bankers don't want wars so no wars or bankers wars retards god I hate the slogan nearing of

libertarians their bumper their ideology is a bumper sticker deep because all of the U.S. bankers seemed to work very very hard at

substantial personal risk to themselves and their fortunes to do the opposite of war. So, at least as far as America is concerned, no wars are banker's wars. And the guy that headed, the guy that was the first president of the America First Committee, is a really interesting character.

So, like, you're talking about, like, the level of American brass, top, top, I guess you could say, like, top ethnic stock of the, uh, heritage American ethnos i shouldn't laugh right darrell cooper already spends enough time trying to tell me that i don't have a people and i don't have a country i shouldn't give his silly position any um anyhow but he's great on everything else darrell cooper's uh he's a really good guy

just wrong about one thing, which is all right, because a lot of smart guys are usually wrong at least one thing. Murray Rothbard used to say that you're allowed one deviation. Really? I like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I should be allowed at least one contradiction or deviation or incoherence. Brigadier General Robert Wood. was the president and chairman of the America First Committee. Like, you know, before, this guy is actually really, really interesting, right? He was a successful executive. And he went to West Point and he served in the Philippines from 1902 to 1903. and if you know anything about what happened in the Philippines, you will understand that this man saw some shit,

like some real horrific stuff. But he retired in 1915, and then became the vice president of DuPont Company and headed operations inside the United States. just to clarify for his service in the Philippines because you wonder like is this guy like a cadet like how old is he right so at the time that he was retired right he was a major and would later be in 1905 became assistant quartermaster or assistant chief quartermaster and then chief quartermaster but that was after his service in the Philippines so he started off the Philippines just a regular officer as one does when you graduate West Point but he would leave a major and then go and be vice president of DuPont and head of US operations

do you remember who was one of the largest backers of the American Libyan Liberty League besides Jack Morgan. I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't remember. Thank you. So I find it very interesting that one of DuPont's top guys has the America First Committee. I'm sure after the American Liberty League and the direct attack that they came under by the newly birthed regulatory state, I'm assuming that these guys thought it best to put at least one layer.

the insulation between them and their political action. And that was Mr. Robert Wood, sorry, Brigadier General Robert Wood. And he stepped down from the DuPont Company on the eve of 1917 and America's entry into the First World War. returned to the army as an infantry lieutenant colonel. So he was on the front line. He stepped down out of the vice president's office of one of the most successful and wealthiest companies in the country to go to the front lines. Find me anyone, anyone in corporate America today in senior leadership that not only served there's lots of men that serve that

have hold those positions at least a handful but how many of them are going to step down from those positions and fight on the front line if their nation is ever called to arms we used to be better just unheard of yeah we used to be better this doesn't happen that doesn't happen anymore all of this stops tomorrow all of it this hell we live in this frail husk of a once great house this amazing place turned into a haunted house a house of like horrors now all of this ends tomorrow when the men with money realized that some things, in fact, most things are more important than money. These men knew that already instinctively.

Somehow it's been conditioned out of us. I don't know how, but I'm sure it wasn't easy and I'm sure it didn't happen quickly, but it happened. These men knew that there were things more valuable than money, that there were risks of loss far worse than money there are worse things as we are finding out today

than losing money and the sum total of our past sins well what's that quote from the movie the Patriots but the only quote of that movie I like he's like he says that

My greatest fear was that my past sins would one day come home to roost. Sorry, the ghosts of my past sins would come home to roost, and the cost would be more than I could bear, I believe, is the quote. That's a good one. Because I hope that that's not the case with America. I hope that the ghosts of our elites sins have come home to roost. We live in it.

I just hope that the cost is not more than the nation can bear. But he would later lead the entire American expeditionary force and exited the war as a brigadier general. He would then go on to chair the Sears Roebuck Company. He became one of the most important business leaders, not only in the company's history, but in the country at the time, serving as its president from 1928 until 1939,

also founded Allstate, a pretty serious dude. To give you an idea of his bona fides as far as American Anglo aristocracy, is he in 1950 was admitted into the fraternal and hereditary society of the Cincinnati. If you know, you know. I don't leave it at that. But these people, these people weren't like the men, like I just see these men. And I look at our guys in the shoes that we have to fill. are immense. Yes, we have been gate-kept away from the wealth of our nation. And I say that

rather hypocritically because some of us, myself included, have not been. But I know most of our guys have. So the bounty of the greatest country in the history of the world, their inheritance, has been kept from them. So as far as positions of prominence in our leading business institutions, cultural institutions and political institutions, like Esau, that inheritance has been stolen through trickery and deceit. So these men's positions of prominence are not shoes that I can reasonably expect

or guys to fill, but their character, their sense of duty, and their commitment to America, the nation that is a sum total of the intergenerational what's the word to put it I guess

I don't want to get too metaphysical but we believe intrinsically that there is some type of every now and then science throws us a bone Right. Science confirms something that surprises science, but does not surprise us, people of faith. And one of those things is the discovery of epigenetic memory. It's a very real thing. We can test it in entirely controlled environments now. First, it was that 100 Monkeys thing that I think I mentioned on.

our show with Thomas Astral and Jay Burton. Jay Burton. Yeah. Also a great guy. But we can replicate it in the lab in entirely closed environments. We're using different colors, spiders, and things like that. Where, you know, a chimp will, you know,

associate some very negative stings. stimuli to certain colors and shapes and their offspring are inherently, I'm sorry, instinctly scared of those same colors and shapes within one generation. So our consciousness is, there is that innate nature of it, that observer, that passive participant that is pure awareness that is that's our soul that is our spirit but then there is our consciousness our conscious mind the um the part of our soul that is us and not god that is a sum total of our memories our life so if a portion of memory is inheritable intergenerational memory then consciousness it's impossible to deny

that there is an element of intergenerational consciousness in a people and ethnos or racial consciousness in the real sense, not in the rhetorical sense like the left uses, but there is a real living, conscious entity that is in sum total of the memories of each generation. I don't think I'm doing an adequate job of explaining and I'm a little slow today, but the results of this are undeniable. Go on, please, save me. Honestly, I think that's a conversation for another day. Yeah. That deserves, that deserves its own episode.

Yeah, I'd like to have that chat with maybe Thomas, too, because he was the one that initially gave that light bulb. But the people that serve are moved by that consciousness, right? Those are shoes that you can fill. I don't think the ancients were dumb in their. worship, at least in some spiritual capacity, their ancestors, alongside their gods. Because, I mean, you know, anyways, so we can fill those shoes. We don't have to fill the shoes, you know, financially or economically or in positions of

prominence yet. but we have to be able to fill those men's shoes in our concept and our mortal devotion to those things and to be ready to fill those shoes to be to be deserving of filling those shoes and when I look at these guys and then I look at our guys today we need a lot of work. Just like the black pilling, for instance, the constant defeatism. If you were in a trench, that type of attitude would get everyone killed if they didn't kill you themselves. Like, we have to be better. Well, we, you know, I'll end it. I'll end it on this. You mentioned Orrin in an episode he did,

and he was talking about the Antioch thing of Obama well what the fuck is there the whole that's some

bullshit bullshit inter-protistan fighting you know sign this to make sign this to prove you're not a fascist or whatever but the

the point of Orins that whole episode and, you know, a couple comments I've made recently is that it seems like now that the left is seemingly defeated instead of the right focusing on either utterly destroying the left so they never come back, or maybe looking at some problems, some big problems on the right, they're arguing over memes. They're, I mean, and they're basically unfollowing people going to war with people over the meaning of memes.

And we can't be expected to be ready for the kind of fight you're talking about if we're fighting with each other over this meme. Or, you know, what is, you know, or, oh, well, you know, if you're, if you're against Israel, if you're against Israel, if you're against Israel right now because they're at war, then you're obviously on the side of the Palestinians. I mean, it just, and if that's, if that's true, you're a third worldist. And it's just bullshit. It's just the right got it. The right decided they were going to get into, the right is like, oh, well, look at this. I mean, Trump got elected and, you know, the woke is, you see people taking, removing their pronouns and stuff like that. So they're defeated. So let's fight with each other. You know what this sounds like to me, Pete? What? The Army Rangers and also NATO has been nice enough to do something similar.

The document is called Cognitive Warfare. I cannot read it. The Army Rangers have their own psychological warfare outfit. And you can get a hold of the training manual and doctrine. Um, they've been, uh, I think it's this, uh, in the repository I found them on was like a, was a cycle public intelligence. It's a great site for, um, policy documents and, um, training manuals, like, a training manual for like anything military is really like, like, not just like a, you know, it's on an instruction

manual. It's really like everything, right? Um, it's a complete text, but, uh, public intelligence, I believe was the site. I got it from in this particular instance, but it basically goes through what SIOPs actually are. And I think it's very informative, and I think we would do well in knowing it, because all the things that we get chalked up, that we chalk up to sciops, right, like hoaxes or trying to convince us of things that aren't real, right, like holograms or whatever, like all the

stuff that Alex Jones screams are PSIOPs, right? like these fake things that didn't happen trying to convince us of not real things that represents less than 10% of what a sci-ops unit actually does right so our whole conception of what a sci-op is is less than 10% of what psychological operations soldiers right and operatives are actually doing do you know what 90% of of their time, energy and resources is spent on, sewing discord and creating infighting in a target group. It's what 90% of Psiops is on the ground, right?

Sounds familiar. Yeah, it does. Right, because the number one priority is to break enemy cohesion, right, and get the various leadership, individuals or organizations in an enemy population or an enemy fighting force to fight with each other. Because when that happens, logistics breaks down, command and control breaks down, and most importantly, trust breaks down. If you don't trust this part of your outfit, you aren't going to be confident that they will resupply you or reinforce you.

you. So that completely changes your paradigm of what is possible on the battlefield. You won't do certain things. Simply sewing, creating infighting and sewing discord.

All of the second and third order effects of that on the battlefield are huge. So much. It is so worthwhile that it represents 90% of what psychological operations units devote their time to.

It's all about infighting. Infighting is the name of the fucking game. And when I see contrived controversies that no one asked for, taking over the entire discourse, I get suspicious. Because if I have to ask, why the fuck does this matter? And whose issue was this prior? Was this like the hobby horse of any particular?

like subset of people? No, it wasn't. This is suspicious as fuck. And anybody fighting on either side of this argument is dumb or disingenuous. This is an actual sci-up. Right. Fucking holograms or, you know, no planes or Project Blue Bean convince you of any alien, that's not sci-ups. This is siops. This dumb shit. Yeah. I think that's where we should end it. I think so too, man.

It's a pleasure. Thank for having me all. Always. Always. And let's get back together with Astral and Thomas and Jay real soon and pump some of that out. Because people are, I think people are loving that too. I really like that. Yeah.

We do a lot of stuff in real time there, too. Yeah, I mean, I think I think panels are the way to go Like for like current stuff or like stuff that's effect like stuff like stuff like this A panel is perfect for stuff that's afflicting our guys and the scene like right now also for planning like objectives For you know anyways That's something that's something we should definitely get together and talk with Thomas about Yeah, absolutely because he's gonna have a lot on that all right man. I appreciate you. Thank you very much Talk to later. Bye.