The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1145: What Happened in Syria? w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

51 MinutesPG-13Thomas777 is a revisionist historian and a fiction writer.Thomas comes right back on the show to give his opinion of what happened in Syria with Assad's overthrow. He provides background from recent history.Thomas' SubstackRadio Free Chicago - T777 and J BurdenThomas777 MerchandiseThomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 1"Thomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 2"Thomas on TwitterThomas' CashApp - $7homas777Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Thomas is back and take a little, one episode break away from the California series. How are you doing, Thomas? I'm doing well. Forgive the, if the copy of the recording comes out, screwed up, forgive me for that. I'm still dealing with some hardware issues until I can upgrade my machine.

It's fine. I mean, as long as we get the audio recorded, right? Who cares? Okay. Well, I wanted to do an episode because when we were recording on Saturday night. News was just breaking about what was going on in Syria. And now that we have a couple of days to see exactly what is playing out,

wanted to have you on to talk about your thoughts and, you know, see what you think is happening or, you know, to give your opinion, anything you want to talk about. So go right out. And I thought was pretty clear. I think disturbs me. It's a disturbance that people take what, emerges from

officialdom just at face value. You know, these people claim that they're critical about you know, what officialdom alleges. They claim they don't like legacy media, and then they pair it uncritically everything it says. You know, whether it's

Kamala Harris is sweeping the country or there was some sort of democracy Soros uprising in Syria. Like, I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean, I don't. don't, you know, I find the whole thing really upsetting. I mean, not for the reasons people might think, but, you know, such that myself and the people

I associate with have real allies on the ground there, I mean, a bunch of these people got killed, you know, and that's awful. But it should be pretty clear what Russia, Turkey, and Iran were doing. I mean, going back really years, but this reached, kind of a critical decision point in October and November. And I don't want to rehash the entire conflict cycle because we'd beat her all night. And I'm just going to assume that people have knowledge of the basic progress of hostilities from 2011 onward. But basically, the kind of roadmap that developed in 2016, like September 2016 was the first ceasefire.

Russia and the U.S. brokered the ceasefire between the government of the Syrian Arab Republic which is the bath regime and this kind of constellation of

American and Israeli and Turkish proxies that the media called the mainstream Syrian opposition rebel group which was a complete mischaracterization. These guys were a bunch of like Salafi lunatics and like ISIS types. Plus it's like make-believe umbrella organization of Kurds.

I mean, Kurd is a fake ethnicity. It's ridiculous. It's like the Kurdish people are this kind of, they're kind of this fantasy entity devised by State Department, careerists and Soros types. there are no Kurdish people. Like, if you accept that there's a Kurdish ethnicity, like, literally, like, there's Jewish Kurds, there's Sunni Kurds,

there's Shia Kurds, there's L-O-8 Kurds, there's Kurds of about, like, 18 different ethnic groups. Like, it's retarded. You know, and interestingly, like, the Turks refused to negotiate unless it's kind of confabulated, like, Turkish representation, like, was excluded. which tells you a lot. But basically, the ceasefire was implemented, like the intensity of hostilities abated.

The one kind of bump in the road at that time was there were American airstrikes that hit Syrian positions, the Syrian Arab Army, I mean, on the 17th of September. And the claim from Washington was that this was some kind of accident but that did derail things for about a month but subsequently and this is important October 2016 the US Russia Saudi Arabia Turkey the UAE and Iran they convened in Lausanne Switzerland to basically start hashing out like what became kind of like the roadmap to ending hostilities and what this led to was the

series of talks and negotiations in Kazakhstan, you know, called the Astana talks, okay? Euphemistically in diplomatic language, you refer to a summit as talks because it's non-committal. This goes back to the Cold War.

But this is basically when the current enterprise, like what Syria is going to be moving forward was devised, okay? And in 2016, just before for Christmas, Putin, Aragon, they agreed to meet in Astana, Kazakhstan because Kazakhstan is purportedly neutral. It's not really neutral, but they don't maintain a real military force.

You know, they don't really participate in power political intrigues in any kind of direct way. but um this was when erdogan Putin and the foreign minister of iran i can't remember his name they invoke

security council resolution 2254 okay um as like the road map the piece which basically called for like a gradual transition oh

let me see if I in any event but it basically laid out progress towards multi-party elections, a gradual weakening of the executive, and an exclusion of a constitutional mandate that Islamic jurisprudence would be the only source of law and authority contemplated by the legislature in devising law. something that was essential to it was that Syria wouldn't be vulgarized, okay?

Like it wouldn't be divided into separate states. The understanding was if that was allowed to happen, you'd basically have these kinds of like discrete militarized zones of interest, you know, between Turkey, the Russian Federation, Hizboa, Iran, and Israel, the United States. And that's exactly what's happening now, but we're not there yet. But these Astana talk, like who represented the opposition

this is important too the rebel groups that were excluded were ISIS Al Musra Front well those refronts basically Al Qaeda reconstituted it's complicated because ISIS

is also kind of al Qaeda because there's our Kawi faction of al Qaeda but they were excluded so was this kind of like make-believe Kurdish militia command that you know, America and Siss is like this real thing. But those who are given the green light to negotiate formally in the behalf of the opposition with the Sham Legion, these are basically

like Salafi radicals. The Harar al-Sham, these guys were Salafis led by Hassan Abud. And they were after the Syrian Arab army, during the major time with saying they were probably the most powerful element on the ground they had tens of thousands of men under arms like very hardened fighters and very very committed um the uh there's a group called jesh al islam literally the army of islam these guys were based in the damascus syria operations they were there were salafis who broke in with the free syrian army

in 2013 and the f sqqqa the f sierra say is kind of one part artificial um it's one part like a like a fake militia of like mercenaries and and terrorists like it's one part an indigenous kind of element of a salafis but they broke um I believe because uh they can sit integral to their mission to not to be on the same side of America and Israel like even if if it's only for the sake of, you know, material, like war materials and logistical assistance and things. But they found it what's called the Syrian Islamic Front, which I believe is still active.

Some of this is probably out of date, but I don't have eyes on the ground there, and now there's nobody giving me or my friend's human. And I hope they're not dead, but they may be. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design. move you, even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range. For Mentor, Leon, and Terramar.

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But another faction was this U.S. proxy element. They called, and I believe so called itself the Free Idlib Army. These guys are U.S. proxies. They claim to be pan-S. nationalist and secularists. I don't think that's true. But they're basically trying to siphon off, or they were basically constantly to siphon off like Assad loyalists who, you know, generally rather basically like genuine moderates or you know members of religious minority groups who you know naturally had a stake in the enduring survival of the bathist regime but um these guys the idlib government or the idlib government

it borders Turkey it borders the Helle province of Turkey To the east is Aleppo To the south is Hamo And Latakius to the west But this is essential

Because like does Italy be governed it Ultimately When the Russians started pounding the hell out of ISIS As the ceasefire came up about they basically let these ISIS fighters retreat to Idlib and like survive okay um or Idilb like whatever forgive the yeah um that's Idlib yeah yeah forgive me I'm tired I'm not feeling good but these guys in Idlib government supposedly and uh Scott Rera's claiming this and Scott Rarer is a crank but and I don't accept anything he says in terms of his his kind of strategic

forecasting because it doesn't make any sense. But when he talks about the forces in being of a lot of these elements because he's a military hound, a lot of the time, that's true. He claims, and so do these stratford types, that Turkey was, like since 2016,

that Turkey was basically funneling their own fighters into Idlib and claiming that they were refugee elements or that they were displaced persons. Some of these Uyghurs who got, who were a lot to emirate to Turkey, you know, under auspices of them being a persecuted population and the PRC,

which they probably are. There's a claim that a bunch of these guys were sent to Idlib, which then became this kind of mini-Islamic state, you know, on the Turkish frontier, that also acted as this kind of like militia in theater that they were prepping to cut loose when the opportune moment arrived and at the time I was a bit skeptical of that take but I think facts have kind of demonstrated it is at least partially true and the remaining the remaining elements of the 2016 the Stana talks were these guys called themselves the Levant fraud they were another Turkish proxy they were like a broad spectrum Sunni militia and these guys call themselves the

the Mushaideen army. These guys have murky origins and the ops of ISIS, but other than that, not much is known about. And they're definitely like the proxies of somebody, but it's not known, okay? So the first round of the Astana talks officially started in 2017. The Astana process, as it was called, it was, in supervisual terms, again, it was dedicated to supporting the framework laid out by Security Council Resolution 2254. What came out of it was an agreement between Russia and Turkey to form a joint monitoring body to enforce the ceasefire and oversee the implementation of the resolution. And this is important because even though a lot of this fell apart,

Turkey and Russia sustained that strategic cooperation, despite some incidents in theater where they were downrange in one another or their proxies were. Turkey's a the Turks are really really duplicitous. Turkey's basically allied with Israel in theater

but they've also got to play nice with the Russians to some degree owing the reasons of energy independence and other things and plus the Turks always hedge their bets. So this is complicated and a lot of people misread what's being telegraphed but from 2017 onward

Erdog and Putin were basically on the same page for what the fate of Syria was going to be and that's a massive betrayal of Assad the Syrian al-aulites and the men who under arms were obeying the orders of Russian commanders a company level and higher

I find this to be totally disgusting if people if you want to tell me that I'm slandering the Russians. I don't care. I mean, this is, I'm not lying about this. But, you know, so the Russians from that point on, from Basie, 2017 have been saying, look,

we're going to preside over some sort of change in government, but it has to exclude terrorists. It's got to exclude elements that are nothing more than American clients who are masquerading as some sort of legitimate representation of

of some sort of Syrian people. And that Syria had to remain like an integral republic. The Russians don't actually mean that. The Russians want Syria to be carved up, which is what they're doing to it now, with the Turks and with the Iranians and with Israel.

But their alibi is that, hey, we wanted an integral Syria and America and Israel and Turkey wouldn't let that happen. So we're just trying to salvage what remains. of the rules-based international order as it has devised a solution to the Syrian crisis, which was Resolution 2254.

That's complete cap. They're not doing that. But that's, that was the platform, if you will, or the alibi for everything they were doing, from 2017 onward. Spring in 2017, the United Nations, Um, brokered further talks between Assad and his people and the formal opposition, which was constituted by those elements that I just outlined and described a minute ago. The opposition, they were represented by what became called the High Negotiations Committee. Assad is represented, and this is very significant, by Bashar Jafari.

Jafar is the permanent representative at the UN in New York City. He's also the ambassador to Russia, and Vala County is still in that role. If I'm mistaken, somebody will correct me when you upload this. Basically, the Syrian government at these Geneva talks, They said they'd abide the implementation of Resolution 2254 as long as there was a commitment to the United States to accept basically like the Syrian Arab Republic government, you know, the Assad regime, as long as they'd be acknowledged that they were engaged in a war against terrorism. And any kind of political transition had to focus on, you know, counterterrorism. and the objectives incident to this ongoing campaign

against terrorism in Syria being realized. And this bought the Assad regime some time. And that was honest. The Syrians were on the front lines of what was called the war on terror. I mean, more than anybody else, except arguably people in Iraq who were downrange of Salafi extremists.

But the February, as the Astana talks reconvened in 2017, there was a document produced that formalized monitoring of the ceasefire. It set up a joint operations group between like formed by Russia, Turkey, and Iran. and it included confidence-building measures as to, you know, representatives of the formal opposition, as well as the Assad government, who would be able to participate in some sort of direct role beyond merely observational. What this led to, this led to an agreement for demarcating what was called de-escalation zones, and this is key. Okay. Spring of 2017 in May This is the fourth round of the talks in Estonia, Russia, Iran and Turkey, they signed this memorandum.

This was all very above board. Establishing four de-escalation zones. The largest zone was basically what became the Idlib government. And it included Hamma, Aleppo, and Latakia. But the, the inland government, again, and this was basically like the Turkish occupation zone and all with name. Okay. The other three zones with the Hamz government,

an opposition controlled stronghold in Gauta, and one along the Jordan-Syria border, which is essentially a demilitarized zone. So this was when the fix was in. I don't think the Russians were planning to whack Assad at this point, but I think that's pretty much when the seed was planted. Okay. And I think the Department of State is so ignorant.

Like it was the United States, this like just went over their head. They weren't paying attention to it. if you read the dispatches from the time, they didn't understand the implications of it. They seem totally illiterate on the way the Erdogan regime does business and what their strategic interests are. And their kind of duplicitousness born of, you know, strategic necessity. If you look at what the Turks want to accomplish, I mean, they should be fairly obvious. You know, even accounting for the kind of double speak that's, you know, in terms. not just the conflicts like the one that was underway in Syria, but also the kind of Russian and Turkish diplomatic cultures.

But, you know, there was also like, you know, this idea of a no-fly zone being established, a suspension of all, like, suspension of all, like, military flights, not just war planes. And this obviously was a way to essentially, like, cut, like, the United States and Israel out of it as much as possible. And, I mean, obviously, that wasn't honored, but it, uh, this was basically the Iranians, the Russians and the Turks trying to corral, like, world opinion. Well, they had, you know, um, well, well, they had the UN's endorsement in, in, in official terms, you know, to kind of try and provide credibility to the whole thing. The Syrian government at the last minute refused to sign off on the memorandum because they figured out what was underway. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design.

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through their representation collectively refused to sign because they realized too that like this was this was going to be the end of them because they only really existed because of American and Israel American and Israeli

patronage they claimed oh this leaves too many loopholes for us to be attacked under auspice counterterrorism but it's like but you guys are terrorists you know it's not it's not a loophole

but um this was further kind of buttressed like this model and this kind of privileging of the Russian and Turkish and Iranian because you know

much as the UN might ordinarily want to exclude the Iranians like it wasn't possible in this case you know it was they either they had to accept the they had to accept Russian and Turkish overtures like with Iran or not at all but

Stefan de Mistura, he's the UN Hancho who was a he's an Italian Swede and he was he was certainly the Italian government in some capacity

but he went on record saying that you know the Astana talks are like a real roadmap to peace and we basically need to like see this through a bunch of the American proxies

within the free serenari prenuble like started boycotting the talks outright but this but it basically continued in earnest from that point forward okay

fast forward a bit because I don't want to bore anybody to death things really changed and became set in stone 2018 just definitely the new years the Russians convene the quote Syrian dialogue

Syrian National Dialogue Congress in Sochi and you know again it was clear this kind of quorum like Turkey Iran Russia was more robust than people who were hoping

for a different outcome would would hope for and pine for September that year there was the Idlib memorandum basically Putin signed off with Erdogan on a quote buffer zone in Idlib he basically signed over Idlib to Turkish influence

okay this is like your zone of influence you know subsequent 2019 August 2019 the United States and Turkey came to the table. They agreed to a buffer zone in northern

Turkey, which they claimed this will preempt a Turkish invasion of SDF held territory. SDF's another one of these like fake U.S. proxies. They're like this left-wing cult. They're these like weirdo Marxists who they've literally got like a feminist constitution.

Like it's ridiculous. But this is the demilitarized zone between Turkey in Syria America pretends that it's some sort of like woke utopia when in reality it's the debilitarized zone and the fact that Turkey got carved up

while the State Department had thumb up his ass like just looking stupid this was like their way pretending that like they had something to do with what was being hashed out and um you know basically this was the holding pattern from 2019 to the president.

There was prisoner exchanges, you know, POWs. The Syrian Constitutional Committee, which was charged with drafting a model for like a new multi-party government was convened at the United Nations office at Geneva.

In 2019, you know, opposition leaders met with elements the Assad regime, which in hindsight after what happened these past several weeks, it was clear these are the guys that they were going to tolerate remaining

like in their official capacities. After that, there basically was no more common ground. There was kind of this standoff. You know, the Syrian Arab

Republic's representatives you know, they they continue to participate because I think they realized if they didn't they would have marginalized themselves even further but the it was in 2021

that was kind of the final that's kind of the final formal meeting of the Estana process group and again like the Russians, the Turks, the Iranians they reiterated. There was also representatives from Lebanon, Jordan,

Iraq. There's a joint statement, and this is key, from Iran, Russia, and Turkey, saying they're opposed to any separatist plans that, quote, undermine a unified Syria. But then, lo and behold, you know, the war

kicks off between Israel and Hamas and then Hezbollah and October 2023. Okay? Now, as the war widened to Lebanon and the Glouan Heights, the Israelis got smacked down in southern Lebanon.

So they came to the ceasefire in October, just in November, you know, this past November. And the ceasefire was signed by Israel and Lebanon, and Hezbollah gave the Lebanese foreign minister like carte blanche to negotiate. And this agreement, it mandated a, 60-day halted hostilities whereby Israel would draw from southern Lebanon, Hizbla will withdraw north of the Latani River. But as soon as this was underway, Israel started violating

the ceasefire line with Syria that it held since 1974, and they started building permanent structures. So basically, Israel was acting as if the Syrian state had already collapsed. Immediately after this like his blah agreement you know and then just the other day supposedly um there's this uprising against Assad the Russians are claiming oh Israel invaded the Golan heights and this destabilized everything and somehow hisbalah stood down Iranian state media was saying you're going to see, you know, foreign troops entering Syria, but don't be afraid. They're not

going to harm religious minorities. I mean, it's obvious what happened here, you know? And then immediately, like, Leavrov was at Doha when this was going on, and when it wasn't clear what's happening. And this obnoxious limy reporter,

he was like saying, like, we need to talk about human rights and what does the future it look like of Syria when the Russians are no longer there? and like Lavrov just kind of started smirking at him saying I look I realize that your business is drawing attention

to yourself with this kind of you know hysterical language but he's like Russia's not going anywhere you know he's like that's not happening and then immediately the Kremlin you know after they were done pretending that there was some sort of civil war underway

they declare oh Assad's dead but you know we've just reached a deal about our naval bases. You know, these guys, it goes to show you that doing business with the Russians, like doing business in America,

they've gotten a lot of, man. Like, once you out of your usefulness, they'll just whack you, and that's what they did, in my opinion. And Pepe Escobar, I used to have respect for him, but as this was going on, he was, like, dropping State Department cap

and saying, like, Assad is done. Like, the Russians are finished. you know they've been kicked out of the Middle East I'm like what are you talking about like how can you think that you don't realize what's going on here I mean I think some of these guys are basically paid for by you know NGOs and things who are very insinuated into the American diplomatic establishment but a lot of these people are just ignorant they for all the time they spend trying to hold themselves out as these as these kind of strategic analysts, they don't know what they're talking about. And they

CNN to them is like a source of legitimate information. But, you know, for context about what Israel did here, because I'm sure people who aren't into geography or whatever, might not realize that Golan Heights are significant. You know, going back to the Six-Day War in June 67. Israel captured the Golan on June 9th into the June 10th. It's two distinct areas. It's the Golan Heights proper, which have a service of about a thousand square kilometers. Then there's the slopes of the Mount Hermon range, which is about 100 square kilometers. But this is a key because in operational terms, I mean, you can dump indirect fire out of either Israel or Lebanon, depending on, you know, who you're down range of. But also, Israel needed Laban's wrong. And the ceasefire line, ultimately called the Purple Line, you know, has been this point of contention ever since. And Moshe Dian, who was the defense minister in up to the 73 War.

And then he was, he went down in disgrace because the claim from Tel Aviv was that, you know, he failed to predict probable movements by the Syrian Arab army. But, you know, he said, you know, he said 80% of the clashes with Syria and the run up to 67 were deliberately provoked. because he said that, you know, the, it was the idea was to provoke hostilities, you know, not just to push back the mainline of resistance, but to be able to build Jewish settlements, you know, and capture living space, literally. But, I mean, this is held, this is held for 44 years after the 1974 agreement. it was implemented you know the disengagement agreement and like all of a sudden now

even before Assad is even like in the grave or before there's even talk of of replacing the bath regime they're just like flagrantly violating the demarcation line and then Yahoo said oh the Syrian army abandoned their position

So like we thought that, you know, there might be a crisis situation emergent. So, you know, we had to, we had to advance. But, you know, it's obvious what happened here. The Russians, the Turks, the Iranians. What happened is Israel realized that they had to bring an end to this conflict, okay? And because that conflict and the Ukraine war, the same thing. As the situation is coming to a natural end in Ukraine, the Israelis as well as Kia, of they said, I'm certain of this, okay, Assad's got to go and we get the Golan Heights.

You know, that's our prerequisite. That's the prerequisite to negotiations. And the Russians are like, what do we care? You know, the Turks realize this is a way to get a permanent tollhold in Syria and no longer have to, you know, play politics about it. and the Iranians realize, you know, they, a lot of Shia don't even view Aloites. I mean, granted, this is like some of the more extremist elements among them, but a lot of those guys constitute the Hezbollah core.

They don't even view the Aloites as like real Muslims, which they probably aren't. They're probably occulted Christians, but they didn't care about hanging Assad out to dry. They're like, we smack down the IDF. You know, and we've got a concord now with the Shia, with the Sunnis, you know, through Hamas. So this is like win-win for us. You know, so that's basically what happened. Okay, and, uh, I mean, I guess the positive is that, like, America loses and looks stupid.

But, I mean, America always loses and looks stupid. You know, but that's, that's basically the breakdown of what happened. You know, the Syrian state was dismantled by the Russians and the Turks. The Iranians and Hezbollah, they realize, like, you know, this actually is good for us. or it can work for us you know because we you know we once again as we did in 2006

you know we basically like forced an Israeli withdrawal because we beat them again you know and their view is like as long as we have you know as long as we got guarantees from the Salafi is like what do we care

you know like our heartland is Iran Iraq and and Lebanon and so long as like there's not it takes fear like war underway and so long as like we're not being treated as by whatever Sunni majority governments in Syria like we don't care and like the Russians ever back too so there you go that's what happened you catch them in the corner of

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Very possibly. I've been seeing. today reports, and you don't know whether they're true or not, of just Israel, it seems like Israel and the United States for the last 24 hours has just been decimating every bit of infrastructure, taking out the Navy, taking out basically anything that they possibly can. Why would Israel and, you know, why would U.S. Israel want to do that? Because moving forward, I mean, they're just covering their bases because they don't want

they don't want some like rump element of what was the Syrian Arab army actually making this into a civil war they they want um they want Syria to be like basically like a four powers occupation zone

you know and that's what it's becoming and they don't want any they don't want any uncertainty there so they're basically going to deprive Syria proper they're going to deprive like whatever this new Syrian government is of any kind of like arms of its own and uh you know again they don't they don't want a bunch of like military they don't want a bunch of like they don't want a bunch of like they don't want a bunch of

you know heavy weapons lying around and they don't want a bunch of armor and and and um and warships around that you know could be appropriated if things go to hell again i mean that's why you know it's um no they they don't want anything to happen in syria not that you You know, right now, it's in everybody's interest to not provoke hostilities. You know, the Turks, the Russians, and the Iranians aren't. So that leaves these kind of unknown quantities. And they don't know either this like Salafi element that, like, has the government, you know, they want to disarm them as much as possible, at least in terms of their ability to muster combine arms or something, that's why.

Do you think any promises that you talk about Russia, Turkey, and Iran, was the U.S. Israel in on this at all giving promises to Russia of anything in Ukraine? You know, you can have the areas you want in Ukraine as this thing is winding down. Iran will take the heat off of you and we'll just it'll Was there Do you think there was any kind of Bartering on The United States Israel end

Oh yeah definitely Except the Malti came from Israel and this one guy I can't remember his name There's this one There's this one There's this one There's this one guy who's like kind of like a minister with a portfolio for like the the Biden regime

and he's been doing he's been going back and forth between here and Israel and he's also got links to Ukraine and stuff obviously I mean like yeah I think he definitely is taking a role in the Israelis absolutely have and Israel essentially controls Kiev

but I mean America the American diplomatic corps are like total idiots like nobody listened to them nobody takes them seriously they don't know what the fuck's going on so yeah i mean the people who nominally represent like the regime's interest in a minute they've been like

yeah definitely doing that but I'm not going to credit department to stay with that because those people are too stupid to live but yeah definitely and the um you know that was basically why that's also why um like Zelensky's a total piece of shit but when he's like you know

the war can't end yet like this is part of what he was talking about you know like until like this gets resolved because this is the other fronts, you know, like, we can't commit to anything. Because the whole point of this war anyway was we're going to tie down the Ivans and we're going to oppose attrition and we're not going to stop until we can, like, eke out concessions in theater being Israel and the Levant in Syria. So, yeah, definitely.

But, I mean, it's clear what happened, like I said. I don't, I don't know if I'm kind of, like, I'm not some auger. There should be obvious to people, I think, but, yeah. Yeah, after we disconnected on Saturday night, it just immediately, the only thing that came to my mind was that a deal was made with Russia to give them what they want in Ukraine since they're not going to have any ports in Syria anymore. Leave Iran alone. Turkey would have more influence with their proxies in the north of northern what is Syria. And then Israel would have more influence with themselves and their proxies in southern Syria. It just seemed like this was like horse trading and I mean, I could be completely wrong, but that seems exactly what it was. You're right, with the exception that Russia absolutely is keeping their ports.

Russia is never giving up those ports. Russia will go to general war before they give up those ports. Their access to the eastern Mediterranean and thus to Africa are relying upon those ports. They will never give them up. and if Turkey and Iran, even if Turkey and Iran had hash something out, if American Israel had tried to finesse some way to turn the Salafi element on the Russians and, like, banished their Mediterranean fleet, like the Russians would have started just like dumping fire on them. You know, they would have been like, uh-oh, that's not happening.

But yeah, otherwise, yeah, you're right. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, and if Russia does keep their ports, then it should be obvious to everybody how this happened. I mean, to believe anyone who believes that Syria was taken in basically five days by, you know, a rebel, basically rebel groups and that the country falls and Assad has to leave. And it wasn't some kind of, you know, deals weren't made all over the place for this to happen. You got to be out of your mind. I mean, no one's going to take, no one could take Syria in five days

unless something really fucked up happened. What's also, it's disgraceful, you know, again, the guys who actually fought this, you know, the Eagles of the World Wind, you know, those guys are basically national socialists. You know, they're the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, which Assad brought into the government in about 2015, I think.

I might be off on that. 11 later. But before that, they'd been excluded, just like extremist element. And those guys fought, and a bunch of them died. You know, and that's, those guys are, if you're any kind of, if you're, if you're, if you're getting a real right winger, like, those are your guys, you know, and is, you know, they, they're, they're the big losers in this. And they're the ones who got backstabbed, as well as Assad, who was a great man. And the, kind of the, kind of the, you know, that he was a reluctant heir to a dynasty

that was a great dynasty. This is very, very bad, man, and it's a very sad thing. But it's not, you know, I mean, it's like, it was, it was offensive to me again, like, just people like parroting what, like MSNBC says. It's like,

what are you? Like, are you, are you, are you, you know, so no, I was upset by the whole thing. I was not going to be melodramatic or something. But, yeah, I mean, that's what, that that's what transpired. Yeah, people, people compare, try to, people tries to compare this to,

Gaddafi getting overthrown. I'm like, this is so much worse. This is so much worse. And it's also nothing like that. Like, I just, you know, like the, I mean, on the one hand, I mean, yeah, the Syrian people are going to suffer terribly. And there was, you know, like brave soldiers,

like, like I said, these, these, these guys, equals of the whirlwind militiam and others. But, you know, I mean, at least at least the incoming administration isn't going to be able to, like, wage these irrational Zionist wars. It's going to be at least, like, a decade and a half before they could do that at scale. And with the successive conflict cycle, they're, like, less able to intervene

directly. There's just, like, not the forces in being. There's not the political will. Like, anybody thinks like America's, like, winning is like out of their fucking mind. You know, so I mean, that that is good. You know, the regime's getting weaker. It's less able to hurt people. It's less able to, you know, as it goes down

over these next, like, 150 years, whatever, it's going to continue to harm people and destabilize things, but it's becoming like less and less respected, less and less serious, more and more reliant on mercenaries because they can't muster their own forces and being, so that's good.

You know, and Hezbollah victory is good. You know, and Russia, however I might feel about the way the Russians conduct their politics and the duplicity they're in, you know, it's essential that Russia remain in the Near East as a direct counterweight to Israel and America. So, I mean, those things, like the American regime, the American regime lost here, but that's not the end-all, be-all of everything. There's other tragedies here. I mean, that's a good thing, but there's tragedies inherent as well. So, yeah, that's the breakdown of it. All right, I got a storm rolling, and it's about ready to mess with my satellite. So do you plug, and we'll get out of here.

Yeah, man. Best place to find me is on Substack. That's where my podcast is and other good stuff and a very active chat. it's real thomas 777.sub.com I'm on social media at capital R-E-A-L underscore number seven H-M-A-S-7777.

My website is kind of a one-stop place because I get a news feed when I upload new content or whatever. It's number seven, H-O-M-A-S-777.com. I'm going to be out of town from Thursday morning until the morning of the 16th. So the next few days, I'm going to try and dip in to the panel discussion with you fellows on Friday while I'm on the road. But other than that, there's probably going to be a minute, like, you know, just like a week or something before I do anything fresh.

So just everybody be aware of it. Thank you. Appreciate you. Take care. Yeah