The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1151: Bookending 2024 w/ Roman

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

64 MinutesSome strong language.Pete invited his friend Roman to come on the show to talk about 2024. He appeared on the show in January so they decided to do a year end episode.Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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It was mid-two-law. late January of this year, I think. Ah, okay. So, gonna just bookmark the year, or bookend the year. So, yeah, started with you.

And, you know, we talked about what was going on in the world. And 2024 is one of those years where, um, nothing happened and everything happened, right? Yeah,

I mean, I cannot believe how fast this year has gone. Yeah, it seems like that that just, as we get older, the years go by that much quicker. So you got to get a lot of stuff in and do get what we need to get done. You know, last time we had talked about moving away from like kind of libertarianism, right? And even I think we touched on capitalism and why maybe it wasn't what we thought it was.

I think we had some predictions that may or may not have came through since that time. And so just kind of wanted to see, you know, what maybe has changed with you even? this year with all the events and everything, obviously elections and wars happening. It's just chaos, man. There's so much happening all at once. Well, I mean, a lot of stuff happened this year. You know, you can't, you have to pay attention to the fact that, you know, Trump, the primary, pretty much the primary season mostly happened this year.

And Trump didn't even get on like a debate stage. And he was clearly the choice. and then I guess we can I guess we can start with just him being nominated and then you know how everyone up on that stage was against him

except like Vivek was there as his like surrogate talking about the things that he would normally talk about maybe in a more eloquent way but definitely not as entertaining Yeah, Vic was good. You know, I don't think I wasn't surprised.

I'm about you about the Trump victory, right, and him winning. She was probably the worst candidate I've ever seen in American politics, honestly. And it's, I think I was, I think I told Paul this. When I was driving through Northern Virginia at one point, I didn't see a single, I think I saw one Kamala sign, and I saw plenty of Trump signs, which was weird for Northern Virginia. And so even the electoral map, you know, when I created my electoral map, I think it was all right except for Arizona. I think was the one I messed up. So I think not many, if you were in the know, if you're on the ground, you kind of knew what was coming, I think, in that sense.

Well, I mean, we can talk about her all we want, but the fact is is that this was Joe Biden's election to win and lose. And they did a debate. Trump had one of the funniest lines I've ever heard in my life when he goes, I don't know what he just said. I don't think he even knows what he just said. Yeah. There was a lot in that debate. And then we can even talk about the fact that a whole bunch of people on the quote unquote right came out of that debate and was like, oh, he lost that debate.

Or even with the Kamala debate, they were like, oh, he lost that debate. I've never seen it's gotten to the point now where. quote unquote right wing influencers, I don't even really know what they are. Everything is a black pill. Nothing good is ever going to happen. And I mean, I'm pretty much bored by them. I mean, look, change is not an easy thing, right?

Change is a big ordeal for some people. And when you get them out of their comfort zone, you know, hoping for something better, it probably scares them or something. So they remain in this like black pill, trouble. And you look, even myself, I'm just kind of, you know, looking to see what Trump does, right? I'm hoping he does great things. I'm hopeful that the country moves forward, but you have to have that mentality. You can't just immediately assume that things are just going to be bad because then what's the point? What are you even, what are you doing at that point, right? There's no, it's just such a surrender move. So I'm hopeful things will get better. But yeah, people on the right, and that's another thing. Maybe we can talk about is this whole left-right thing because I thought your episode with Stormy was fantastic. a lot to digest from that episode. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of,

it goes back to not really wanting to be labeled right or left, at least for me anymore. There's not really trying to adopt any label, for this matter, just kind of trying to stick to some principles and move forward with them. Well, I mean, I'm kind of sick of like the retards who were like, you know, I've basically come to, it's what I was thinking, but apolitical, put it in the best tweet possible.

It's like, I'm not left or right. I'm a nationalist. And at this point, if you take into consideration what Thomas says, where Thomas is like, there's no third position. You're either a globalist, Zionist, or you're a national, or you're against them, basically. And watching retards not be able to understand that I can say that while hoping that Trump does certain things and that Trump,

Trump, I don't have to take that position and then say, well, fuck Trump. He's not going to do anything good. He's definitely not going to fulfill my vision. To me, the guy's perfect, right? There's plenty of things that I hope he would do differently or I'm hoping he does or doesn't do whatever. But, yeah, I'm not going to sit here and say, you know, fuck Trump or whatever. The guy is clearly, I think, and genuinely loves this country, wants to see it go in a good direction. and I'm hoping that's what happens.

And if people are against that, then you're really just kind of maintaining that status quo. Even people on the right, if you're against him, and he's trying to change the status quo, then you're basically for the status quo that you claim to be, you know, against. But again, for some people that maintaining that status quo is what they want, right? It's like the James Lindsay's of the world or whoever.

There's people who need this, you know, the bad things that are happening to this country to remain so they can sell books, give speeches, whatever. They're not in it for the country or for the greater good. And, you know, people probably don't like that phrase, but I like it these days. But, you know, I'm not going to see it here in Blast Trump. I'm hoping and I'm hopeful that he does a good job and will do a good job moving forward. Well, I also think there's a lot of participation trophy Americans who they don't know how to win.

They don't know they're not willing to take a position because they're scared to lose. they're so they're so concerned about their opinion and how other people like see their opinion and I'm not only talking about people who like create content and have audiences talking about like random people

with like 20 followers on the on Twitter they're like well I get no no no if I if I have any hope at all I could be disappointed and you know the guys in the group chat they're going to be they're going to make fun of me because it's like it goes back to what I said about libertarianism.

All it was was an identity. And I think a lot of these same people suffer the same problem is that this is their identity and they basically don't want, they're not willing to put their neck on the line, have an opinion or cheerlead someone and then, oh, it doesn't work out. And it's like, oh, see, see, you were, okay, yeah. I had hope. I'm an adult. If it doesn't work out,

then you move on to a new solution or something different, right? You don't have to just immediately shoot down everything. Well, and it doesn't mean that you're hanging all of your hope on that. You're doing other things in the meantime. You just hope that this happens. If this happened, it would be great for us. Oh, it didn't happen. Well, I've been doing this over here.

I mean, these people, that's why, and it seems like every time I do an episode or I appear on someone else's show, I end up talking about this. Thomas's idea that it's a vanguard. We're not Jehovah's Witnesses. We're putting a message out there. People are hearing the message. Hopefully it's edifying them.

The way I look at it is people who listen to my show and who are like, yeah, you know, I don't agree with you on this, but I definitely agree with you on this. We can have a conversation. and these are people that I would want around me. A lot of people are tuning in to be educated and entertain. They're not looking to become activists or anything like that. They're not looking to hold positions in like their local council or something like that. They're maybe not even looking to practice like local where a bunch of people

intentionally go to a place because they all share the same values. Those people are fun. I love every one of them. But it's the people who are like, they think, you're trying to recruit me and you're not doing a good job. No, fuck you. Not trying to recruit you to anything. It's obvious.

I mean, you can go to my private chat on Telegram. The people in there, those are the people. I would hang out, I would go to, I would pretty much everyone in that thing, I would allow to, you know, come visit me at home. But it's like, I mean, oh, you didn't say, you're resting too much. No, I'm not.

I'm hoping this happens. But in the meantime, I'm doing something else. Yeah. If you're in group is going to make fun of you because you wanted something to happen and it didn't, and it turned out to maybe even be 10 times worse, uh-huh, well, so? So what? What do you really give a fuck about? If they're the kind of people who are going to make fun of you,

those aren't the kind of people you want in your inner circle. Yeah. No, great point, especially the point about, look, you're putting great content out there, you're putting great information and educational sources out there, resources out there, and not everyone has to be an active activist, right? Like you said, if they can just take it, maybe apply it to their daily life, whatever, they don't have to be kind of like in that hurrah, like let's go do something with it. As long as they're just kind of understanding where you are, where you're coming from,

I think that's sufficient enough. Not everyone's built for that activism or change lifestyle or mechanism, right? But yeah, these people are just, I think you just got to move on. Like, you cannot waste time with these people. They're just in the way. And there's so much that this country needs right now and needs to move forward with. They're just kind of obstacles that I don't want to really waste my time with them much anymore. Ready for huge savings?

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Search Trump-Ireland gift vouchers. Trump on Dunbioghush Faragea. Yeah, so let's get back to talking about 2024. You said when you reached out that you had some more thoughts on October 7th and everything. So why don't you jump into that? I can talk about that all day. Yeah, you know, I just, I guess quickly what made me, the stormy episode that you did with him, when you guys were talking about left versus right and how it just kind of, they kind of pin people against one another.

This summer, when the, was it this summer, whenever spring, the, protests on the college campuses were happening, I found myself obviously, I guess, siding with the protesters. I supported them and what they were doing and the message that they were putting out there. But then I noticed a lot of my right-wing Twitter friends or whatever were just blasting these people. And it was, I just didn't know why. Yes, many of those people were the same BLM protesters that burned down the cities in 2020. I get that. I totally get that. I did not support that. But I mean, look, Scott Horton protests what Israel's doing, right? Does that mean he should be beat up by the police on a campus or anything like that? It's just my fear is that the left, you know, when they say, you know, whoever angers you, conquers you, my fear became that the left has just enraged the right so much that it almost poisoned them where they started calling it woke to protest the killing and massacre of children. who are just for an entire year now we've been seeing horrific images of.

And I didn't want to be part of that quote right, right? And so I found myself even leaning more towards left positions that, you know, Stormy was even talking about, you know, are people having EBT cards or healthcare education? And I completely agree with that because someone asked me earlier this year after our episode. They said, are you a socialist? And I said, you know what? I don't know, maybe, right? if the people who are controlling the means of production

or people who I want to be around and who share my values and beliefs, then yeah, sure, I guess I am. And so these labels of left versus right just kind of, it was really that campus protest moment that made me kind of, really October 7th, all of it led to that.

The core identity kind of dilemma that I was in earlier this year. Well, the whole socialist thing is throwing terms like that around is just basically a relic of the post-war consensus and the Cold War. That's what that is. It's just people, they, most people don't even, aren't willing to go back and figure out when the National Socialists called themselves Socialists, what that meant. What did that mean? Because this is what I've been told Socialist means. This is what Lidviglan Mises said socialism was and nothing if you try to, it was like when I was reading Peter Thiel's zero to one and he was defining a monopoly.

Literally had people just absolutely completely upset because he's not defining monopoly right. Um Fuck you I'm I don't I don't know what else to say He's presenting a An idea He's presenting

Um Basically How you get from You know Oh we're just going to make a better We're going to make a better version of this of the cell phone To the next thing and he's saying that, you know, you want to do it this way, and I'm calling that a monopoly.

And you are going to have a monopoly on the market, at least for a little while, you know, probably for a little while. But this is what I'm calling a monopoly. And people are so hung up on, like, the terms and definitions. Everybody, people are more consumed by what. terms mean and how they may be applied to them, then they are ideas and how ideas influence your thinking, how you live, and any kind of future thing, movement for lack of a better term, although that word doesn't really mean anything anymore, but like how you would organize,

how those ideas would help you to organize. They're much more interested in, well, socialist means this, and they call themselves socialist, and he said this once, and, you know, well, what's the source on that? I don't know what the source is on that. I'm just trusting the meme. So, I mean, I'm less concerned with the word someone's using

than what the intention is behind it, what the idea is behind it. But hey, you're a socialist, you're woke right, you're a Marxist. All these people are Marxist. Just like, okay, well, I mean, if you're still fighting the Cold War, go right ahead. I mean, people seem to think, oh, if I use Marxist, that's what boomers are. So, okay, well, how useful are boomers to you? What, what, you want a boomer waffin?

What are you going to do with that? They're all going to get arrested. They're going to do stupid shit. These are the people you want around you? I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, people love their label, right? They want to just be compartmentalized into things because, again, it's just like comforting for them. It's just their safe space, if you will.

And I just don't agree with this. Someone, I used the word racism once, right, earlier this year. And I was talking about what I've seen with my own eyes and ears, which is white people being declined for jobs because they are white. and I said, hey, that's racist. And someone was like, oh, look, you're using a leftist term. And I'm like, when did racism exist? I mean, I'm not going to let the left convince me that everything, you know,

that the idea of racism isn't real. It is real. You can discriminate against people. White people are getting discriminated against in schools and in classrooms and jobs and everything. It is a real thing. So why can't I use this label? Why do I have to be on, you know, if I want to be on team right wing, I can't use certain words or I can't.

or even like the pope right the pope came out saying that he didn't want kids to die in gaza that it was it's cruel what israel's doing and i see people on the right saying oh well look the pope is woke now why is he woke what does that even mean is it woke to not want kids to die if so then yeah call me woke call you know it's just this year pete i really kind of shed every label that i was i thought i was or any political if you ask me right now what is your political preference. I don't really know if I don't have an answer to that. I couldn't pin it to like a definition on Wikipedia really. I just kind of I have my principles, I have my beliefs in whatever it is orbiting around that and is in line with that, then I will kind of gravitate towards

that so long as it's, you know, aligning with my belief system at that time. Well, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that most people who were out there arguing over words and attacking, you know, using terms like woke right i mean they're just it's all about identity of them it's it's who they are how they're seen around their around their in group

their in group is more important to them than actually like you know recognizing who the enemy is like you know if you if you mention like kids dying in gaza and you're like and someone jumps on you about that it's like okay so what every

hamas every kid that's been blown to bits in the last, over, what is over a year now, is, has what, a Hamas fighter has been hiding behind them. They were used, they were being used as human shields. I mean, we have evidence that they,

that they would kill somebody, they would kill somebody random out in the open, who was just walking. And then as soon as someone came to, to scoop up the body, they would shoot that person too. Didn't matter. They didn't know if they were Hamas.

They didn't know what they were. And then you now you see, you know, I've seen videos of, and they'll use this. I'll be like, oh, look at how they live in the Gaza. They're dead or just sitting out there and dogs are going up and eating, eating the body. It's like, well, why would you, if you know that you're going to be shot, if that's a decoy, If that's just something they're using as a distraction, why would you go out there? Even if it's a loved one, your loved one would want you to live. And these people are so, I don't know what it is.

It's like, I understand a lot of my European brethren. They really hate Muslims because of everything that's happened there and everything. But, you know, no Muslim has ever called me a goy. No Muslim has ever charged me 20% interest. You know, it's no Muslim has ever gotten my, gotten my Twitter account deleted. No Muslim has ever threatened to me. Ever. I mean, I don't live in the 2001.

I don't live in the post 9-11 like right there, you know, the first couple weeks when it was like they hate us for our freedoms and everything like that. It's like, no, I know who my enemy is. And whoever is fighting my enemy, no matter what I think about them, I'm going to hope they win. and I'm going to hope they do them damage. If you don't, if, you know, and I say this all the time to my brother in,

in Europe, you know, if you want to, you can look at all the Muslims around you and this guy, this fucking piece of shit that just drove into a Christmas thing. You can hate him and you can want to stop them. And you can want to get rid of all of them. And I want that for you too.

But realize why they're there and who put them. there. If you, I mean, you can deport them all now. But if you don't cure the problem of the people who want them there and the people who keep putting them there, well, you're just, you're just basically putting a band-aid on a freaking gushing artery. And that people don't seem, people seem to just want to concentrate on, you know, the wound or the disease and not what caused it. Because if you do that, you know, you can, some people may call you names or you may be targeted or your, you know, your kosher right friends on Twitter may be upset at you. So, I don't know.

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or he's just the best at just seeing what would exist. I think it was him that said, you know, look, these migrants that are causing violence or whatever, these are not like engineers or upper, you know, very well-educated people from these Middle Eastern countries. These are like riff-raf, criminal, low-educated, poor people that just come in there and do things. And I'm not going to sit here as me now. You know, I'm not going to sit here and bash an entire, you know, religion of people because this other third party tribe has like blown their country to pieces and caused that refugee migration to them it's so easy for people to flex on you know these migrants

but not look at the source because if you're going to go up against the source of this you're going to have to go up against a whole lot of power right so they just want to flex and feel like they're doing something so they go against these civilians on the street or harass people whatever look, if you keep them there, then yes, they're going to influence the culture, right? Which is what that third party tribe, the Jays want, right? And if you massacre them and start breaking down their doors and killing them, well, guess what? That tribe will probably love that too. So it's a lose-lose situation for you.

It's like no matter what you choose, the people that cause this are okay with that. So I think, yeah, you have to just kind of understand why these things are happening. Why are these wars being fought? I mean, when we spoke, when we spoke, what, four months after October 7th, right? Yes. At that point, you know, I had thought that Israel was like really, you know, obviously the damage they've done and the destruction and cruelty they've inflicted on these people is just disgustingly horrendous. But now, you know, as we're here near the end of 2024 here, I think short term, sure, they might be winning. But long term, there's no way.

I mean, the best experts, John Meersheimer's of the world, all these guys, they all see it. There's no way Israel can sustain itself in where it's going with the destruction they're doing. I mean, the seeds have already kind of been planted if you've been reading the news just in the last couple weeks, right? Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, there's like these things percolating where Israel's talking about maybe going in there or some regime change or something. And this greater Israel map seems to be taking place. but the more they stretch themselves out, I think, the more, you know, there's just this bloodlust right now that Netanyahu's on right now,

and Ben-Gabir and all those guys, and it's not even about the hostages. I don't want to hear anyone talk about the hostage anymore. Best case scenario for Netanyahu is that these hostages die. That's what he would love the most. It's not in their interest to get these hostages. And so I just think that's kind of where we're at with Israel, is that the world is really waking up to this, right?

And I think there will be a war. I think eventually they will poke Iran and there will be a war. But I think ultimately when all is said and done at the end of the day, I think they're going to be like a pariah state in Europe and many countries around the world are going to say, look, we're so sick of you. You guys have depleted our resources. You're killing these people.

We don't want to just do business with you. We don't want to look at you. And I think Israel has a lot of problems coming down. And it's near future, maybe not in near future, but in its future. I think the only thing I disagree with you on there, is that Netanyahu doesn't care if they die. He needs those hostage just to stay alive because as soon as they die,

there's nothing holding them back from invading and finishing this. He needs this to keep going, because for personal reasons, because, you know, they want to remember, before October 7th, they were going to put them on trial for corruption and a whole host of things.

And this is basically this, uh, this slaughter and everything that they're doing. postpones that. And one other thing that I wanted to bring up was, you know, people will always say, like, well, if members of your group are showing bad behavior, you need to step up. And the Jews never step up and say bad things about you. Well, yeah, they did. There were a lot of Jews. And this isn't my opinion. This is, quote, unquote right-wing Jews saying this, that there were a lot of left-wing Jews protesting against, we're speaking up against the crimes of Israel. Well, what are you just going to ignore them because, you know, you know, they, you don't agree with them because, you know, they may, they may push something. Well, no, they're speaking. They're fighting. They're fighting. I mean,

you want them to fight, right? A people who were divided can't. stand. And, you know, some people can say, well, there are, there are Jews who plan the, plan the wars, get the, get the refugees going, and then left-wing Jews on the other side, they bring them in and everything. Well, that's, you want, if your whole goal is you want regular Jews on the street to step up and be like, we can't do, well, you had, and you shit all over them. So, you know, it's like why? Because, oh, they, well, by being against Israel after October 7th, that means that they're pro

Hamas. Well, that's not necessarily true. I mean, I think Hamas are, you know, pieces of shit. But they are fighting against, they're trying to do damage to the enemy, or there are some people out there. you know, there's that small minority who are like, this is all K-Faib, bro. Hamas did this, this is all a plan,

and everything is just too, this is a distraction. This is the dialectic. They control everything. And it's like, wow, you really think they're like Superman. You're a bigger Zionist than Benjamin Netanyahu. Unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, Hamas is the resistance there now.

They've even outlasted really Hezbollah, in my opinion. So they're kind of the only really resistance that's left. You know, with Hezbollah, one thing that drove me crazy was that they accepted that ceasefire deal, right? Which is, I don't know why you would accept that, because if you remember, Hezbollah was shooting rockets into northern Israel, and they were kind of hitting like military installments, right, or just kind of like that north area. And when they actually hit a settlement a couple months ago and did damage, I remember seeing it. Immediately, Israel wanted that ceasefire.

And I thought that was the point where you just continue going. You have leverage there. But then immediately there was a ceasefire that Israel is still hitting you, right? They're still hitting you despite the ceasefire. But that caused them to be able to do with, you know, to see what happened in Syria and whatnot. And now they're in taking southern Syria and parts of that. And so I just think they're just, they're continuing to grow and grow. And I don't know where it's going to stop.

And at what point Americans are going to kind of really, you know, stop this. I'm very curious to see what this Trump administration does with Israel, because I don't know how else you can protest this. I mean, the protesters are out there, they're doing their thing, and whenever they protest, people say, look, you can't do this or why are you doing this way? This is not the way to protest, but everything is exhausted. All avenues have been exhausted in terms of protesting, and we're trying to stop this. The Congress is, you know, on, there's some members of Congress that are really kind of, I think, seeing where the demographic shift is happening when these boomers die out, these younger people are not going to be putting up with

what Israel is doing. They're kind of getting ahead of the curve, right? A substantial amount, at least in my opinion, compared to maybe 15 years ago, are waking up to this and actually trying to stop Israel. But I'm curious what you think, like, where this is headed, where, what is Israel's destiny in this because I think they're just on this eschatological, you know, crusade where they're trying to just get, you know, trying to shape the world in a way for certain things to happen. Well, I mean, first I will say, and I know that this, a lot of people disagree with this is, I think the reason why Hezbollah, you know, backed off after they did that

and were able to honor the truces because they have honor. Remember, Iran sent 190 missiles at or missiles rockets.

I remember what they were. I think they were missiles. At Israel. None of them hit, none of them dropped a building. None of them went after residential places. And 150 of those got through, by the way. I don't care. People may not realize that because the press isn't going to tell them that. They're fighting with honor. And you're not

fighting against an honorable people. You're fighting against the people that will drop buildings, will drop residential apartment buildings in cities and kill everyone in them. And what you're supposed to believe because they told you and their press told you and the quote-unquote right-wing press in this country, even some right-wing press that people may think as alternative press told you was that there were terrorists hiding underneath that building. Okay, well, I mean, no one no one's presenting evidence of that. And even if you do, it's like, oh, we killed this one guy and everything. Okay, well, maybe. Sure. But you. But you. You don't see them, you know, they talk about human shields, okay?

Masad headquarters is in the middle of, is like in one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in Tel Aviv. Okay, so if you're, you definitely, if you're going to go to war with someone, you would definitely want to take out their intelligence. Well, in order to take out Israel's intelligence, you have to drop bombs into a residential neighborhood. If you draw bombs into a residential neighborhood, the press, the neutral press in the West is going to say that you, you know, you basically were targeting civilians, that you didn't care about those civilians there. But, you know, Israel has been killed, since October 7th has, you know, I'm not necessarily one of those people who's like, oh, well, if they crossed over on October 7th, has, you know, I'm, I'm not necessarily one of those people who's like, oh, well, if, if they crossed over on October 7th, and they killed 800 civilians, you're only allowed to kill 800 civilians in return. You don't have to kill any civilians in return, actually.

Did anybody think that maybe you don't want to, if you don't kill civilians in return, it looks better for you. But I guess if you own the press and you own the hearts and minds of fucking boomerdom and most of the right, quote-unquote, right-wing in this country, it really doesn't matter what you do. You can just, I mean, they can pretty much drop a nuke anywhere they want, and people are going to make excuses for it.

I mean, I don't see anyone who is willing to stand up to them, and then if they drop a nuke, you know, say they decide to nuke bagdad tomorrow. If you start saying, well, they shouldn't have done that, you know, that's, you know, you're looking to start World War III, then you're anti-Semitic. That's where we are at this point in time. And hope, you know, it's changing. And I'm not, like I said, I'm not a populist. I'm not one of these people who's like, wants to wake up all the Normies.

But what you definitely saw was by more normies, by more normies actually being suffering and saying that they're suffering, a new set of elites stepped up, that's the only reason to get the populace talking is so that elites step up and say, okay, well, we need to change things. So are the elites, or like the Silicon or the PayPal, PayPal Mafia, the ones that Matt started talking about at the beginning of the year, and I picked up on in February and we started talking about, are they looking to stop this slaughter? I think they think it's bad for business, but I don't know. Will they have any influence?

Seems like Elon has a lot of influence, and they're trying their best to destroy that influence by saying, oh, he's the real president, and they're trying to play at Trump's ego so that he'll tell Elon to fuck off and everything. But it really, you know, I mean, I don't know. What you can hope for is that people are like, oh, well, it's just going to be like Trump's first president.

and everything. It's like, okay, well, I mean, they didn't stop, he didn't start any wars and hope, if he wants to stop what's going on, hopefully he'll have people around him that are better at doing that. And maybe he's learned from, you know, what's amazing is, people can change our minds and they can learn from their mistakes, even like 70-year-old game show billionaires. They may learn from their mistakes and be like, okay, we're going to stop this and we're going to pull our troops out of this place. And if you don't pull our troops out of this place, I'm going to court-martial you and you're going to end up in Gitmo. Not saying Trump's going to do that, but there's a chance he could do that. And I know just by me saying that people are just

going to criticize me and go, oh, look, he's coping. Go fuck yourselves. Go to Canada. Seek health care. I mean, really, really. I'm fucking done with people who, you know, just if you're blackpilling, just you know what to do. Yeah, I think I said in the beginning, you know, I think Trump, the man, the individual genuinely does not want war, right? I think there was an interview he did, I think it was during his first presidency

where he talked about the Iranian people and how he didn't want to bomb them and he was like, well, why would I want to kill people that had nothing to do with it? It was a very good glimpse into kind of his humanity, right? I think sometimes when he talks big game about, you know, giving Hamas hell or whatever,

maybe it's to appease some donors or anything something like that but i think he genuinely wants to try to make peace you know with ukraine with with gaza i keep hearing people talk about you know something happening between now and the inauguration you know maybe it's iran doing something or israel doing something i hope that's not the case i really hope iran's not stupid enough to to escalate this before trump comes in give him a shot to you know don't piss him off uh right now give him the chance to come in and and try to broker some peace. But we'll see what happens, man. I think, like you said, you're dealing with Israel, you're dealing with just like just savages, right? Just brutal savages that don't care about human life.

I mean, why would they when they think they're superior to everyone they're killing, right? And it's kind of like you said, I was surprised, you know, when this started in October 7th, had Israel went in there, had the IDF went in there, given food to the people, you know, maybe, you know, help them out, or whatever, you could have, they could have shaped public opinion in the Arab world, Arab Muslim world in that region a lot, right? You didn't have to slaughter all these people. You could have turned them, maybe not 100% obviously in your favor because of the deep rooted history, but at least maybe kind of convinced the second generation to be more peaceful with you and then third generation kind of play the long game there. But because like you said, no one's going to stop them. They had no incentive to really act in that way. They just, you could just bomb anyone you want, kill anyone you want, point out. anti-Semitism whenever you want I mean you're just dealing with people that you cannot everything is just like a contradiction right everything is just when you tell them hey stop killing people it's always okay well why do what about the Armenian genocide what about this genocide and it's always you know that

what aboutism and what frustrates me especially with that argument is that these other genocides they every government acknowledges that they were bad you know the no one has to point out that these got these genocides were awful you know, but when you do it, no one, it's like they can't, it's not the same thing. You know, the world's superpower is not agreeing with, they're supporting it really in this. So it's different, right? And so they're just, these people like promote multiculturalism for the world, but they're their own ethno state. They promote reason for everyone else, but they're guided by eschatological motivations. It's just even smaller things like, like the new story about

was a Columbia professor who was teaching a class on Zionism. They were blasting him. Okay, well, plenty of Jews teach about, you know, American history. They weren't there when these things happened. So why did they get to teach about that? Or obviously the obvious ones, you know, they're white when it's convenient, they're Jewish when convenient. It's a religion when it's convenient. It's a race when it's convenient. Criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic, but also American Jews and Israel are not the same. So there's this barrage of these like arguments or these like pick and choose things that they keep throwing at people. And I'm just kind of tired of pointing them out because pointing them out doesn't really do anything. I've noticed it doesn't do anything.

It might convince, you know, people that are neutral, I guess. But I just want, that's kind of why I got off Twitter, right? It's more every day I'd log in and I'd see these same arguments, the images of dead kids and people pointing out, you know, the whole can you imagine crowd. I just kind of got tired of that because it wasn't doing anything it wasn't solving anything and so I thought let me just back away and work on maybe long-term solutions

or try to do what I can to kind of change this whether it's calling members of Congress and sending letters or whatever it may be better than just kind of pointing out what Israel's doing and they know what they're doing and they know we know what they're doing and it's just not nothing was changing at least that's where I saw it

well I mean when you have a a group of people who are basically child raping cabalists, you're not going, what do you expect from them? You're just going to expect that, you know, and they're atheists, they don't believe in God. They just use the Bible as a guidebook. So, you know, why are they killing all these people? Because they're Amalek, because they're,

because this book tells them, this book gives them the cover to do it. and, you know, a bunch of, you know, a good majority of Christians in the West have been brainwashed into believing, yeah, well, they have to do this or Jesus isn't going to come back. And it's like, okay, well, you know, see how that works out. But, yeah, I mean, at this point, I'm not going to stop saying the things I say. I'm not going to stop constantly retooling how I see things. because things are constantly changing and you have to look at things in certain ways that you didn't look at them, you know, say 20 years ago, say 10 years ago, you know, say 10 months ago. And, you know, not going to listen to anybody, you know, criticize me for that. I think from what I, from most of the people I hear from, they appreciate it.

and they appreciate somebody who can look at these things and be honest about them and not lie to them. I'm not pretending to be anything. I'm just doing what I do and being who I am. And one of the things that, when you see things like this happening in the world, when you see that one group has so much power, well, you know, you're, you really have to consider that you you must figure out a way to deal with that. Not only in like your own life and strategies that you would do, whether they be financial, whatever, but you're also going to have to deal with that inside. You're going to have to deal with that on a metaphysical level.

You're all going to have to deal with that on a mental level. And I think that most people don't realize that they're not, they're so set in their ways of, well, you know, I, I'm I look at the world this way. And if the world was just this way, well, it's not. It's not. So what are you doing to, are you just, are you on a high horse where you're like, well, you know, if they would have just done it my way

and they're never going to do it your way. Okay, so what do you figure out a way to defeat your enemy? I mean, that's what, that's the history of mankind. people have enemies. There are always enemies. How do you defeat them? Do you go head on? Do you retreat?

Is it a little bit of both? Is it a completely different, you know, you're going to try something completely different that hasn't been tried in the past? Yeah, okay, I'm before all of that. I may not agree with it. I'm for all of it. But to just sit there and be like,

well, nothing's ever going to get better. Sorry. I can't, I cannot have people around like that. I can't talk to people like that. I run away from people like that. It is just, it's, it's too much to deal with. I mean, I would much rather face to face or online go right at somebody who I completely disagree with and get heated, then sit there with somebody who mostly agrees with me, but it's just like, well, I can't agree with you that everything is going to get better or that anything could possibly get better. Look at how much money Miriam Edelson gave to Trump. He gave him $100 million. Yeah, and Elon Musk gave him $250 million. Do you think Elon Musk isn't expecting something in return? And do you think maybe whatever Elon Musk want may butt heads with what Miriam Edelson wants?

What about Timothy Mellon who gave $170 million? What does he want? I mean, it's just, okay, yeah, there's an enemy. Miriam Adelson is part of that enemy group, but there's also other things to take into consideration. And just because you may be hearing things come out of certain people's mouths at certain times where you're just like, oh, I give up. Nope, nope, back to the black pill and everything. The guy's not even fucking president yet. Is that going to be president for what, another 27 days?

Yeah. You know, 28 days? And people are already completely defeated. I can't live my life like that, man. I can't. And if you're living your life like that, I mean, just stay away. Stay away from me. I really don't.

I fucking can't. And if you think you have solutions, but your solutions are complete, I mean, your solutions are as delusional as like libertarian's. Are just end the state, bro, and we'll end the federal. Stay away from me. I can't anymore. We're coming on a new year. Everybody makes resolutions in the new year.

My resolution is I'm going to avoid these people like the plague. And if that means that I have to just really go on Twitter to promote the show and that's it, I'll do it. I mean, it's just, it's too much. It's draining. And maybe that's the whole purpose of these people is to be fucking vampires and just, every bit of your life force. Yeah, the dread is not going to help next year, right?

It's just, you know, the thing is, like, George Soros gives money to the other side, right? So it's like, what, the whole Miriam Adelson thing, like you said, there's competing interests involved. I'm very hopeful that he's going to do what's right again for the country. And I'm hopeful that America and Americans are going to wake up, and they did after the election,

and see that there's problems that exist and that we need solutions. Now, these people that are not, you know, white pill, they're, I guess, not hopeful. Yeah, you can't, 2020, I'm looking at my resolutions now, actually. It's funny to say that. You can't waste time with them, especially next year. You have a good platform.

You're putting out information, and there are people that are very receptive to that. I know people that have listened to your show that didn't know anything, didn't know any of the books that you've ever read. They're starting to read them. They're starting to get involved in their political process. they're becoming more eloquent and articulate and how they say things that involve current events.

And so, you know, for every hopeless person, there's a hopeful person that's born, I think. And I'm optimistic about that. And to your point about just going back to Israel real quick, about how they're just complete savages and killing everyone. Yes, the fact that the resistance movements aren't bombing civilian targets, I think, you know, I'm not saying they're like 100% honorable or anything but usually honor wins out I think at the end of the day honor will always win out over just complete savagery this is my opinion and so I think what we'll see is Israel

probably just spiral and destroy itself eventually if the people inside Israel who are there are people to understand what's happening and they see they're like well our country's going to shit this is this is not the trajectory we need to be on guys if those voices start waking up and speaking up more things can get better for sure. But I guess, you know, we started this year having a conversation about kind of 2024 and where we're going. And I think despite all the news and all the events that happened this year, I am coming out of it pretty hopeful. People are waking up. You know,

we went through COVID. We went through the woke, that woke phase, which I think is pretty much dead. At least I do. People are taking pronouns out of their emails. People, bathrooms are back to being men and women again. I've seen, you know, people are trying to take things seriously again and they see what's happening and, and they're ready for real solutions. And the hopeless people can just, whatever, they can just exist. Well, I think one thing that you said there that I'll disagree with is, I think there's, for every, like, Dumer, there's a thousand people who are hopeful. The problem is, for sure, yeah, I just meant like, you know, there's, yeah. No, the problem is is that those people are actually doing, they're out there doing.

and stuff. They reach out every once in a while, and I mean, it's like, you know, just an adrenaline shot when they do. But it's the, it's the Dumer who is the one who wants to get in your face. Because not only do they want to prove you wrong, but they just want to prove how right they are. But the problem is in proving how right they are, they're revealing exactly how hopeless they are. It's like, okay, you got that right. What did that get you? By being right about this one subject or, see, I told you Trump wasn't going to do this. Okay, what did that get you? Well, I mean, what else are you doing?

If you're hopeless, you know, and if you're hopeless and you tell me. Just commentator aside. Yeah. But if you're hopeless and you tell me, well, I mean, I'm just, I have to become a political because I'm working on this over here. I'm working to improve myself. I'm working to do this for my family. Totally get that.

problem is that most of these doomers that want to just absolutely monopolize your time and try to zap your energy, most of them aren't doing that. I mean, they're just, they're not. I mean, some of them could actually be, you know, successful in what they do in their, in like their business. But if you're completely a, how does that, how is that, so say you're, you know, say one of these doomers is like a,

you know, is a programmer or something like that. They make good money. What are you doing? How is that translating into success for you beyond what you're doing? Because if you just go to work and you come home and then it's just nothing, okay, well, how is that helping? And you're like, oh, well, you know, got to help my people. You know, white people are under attack.

Okay, well, what are you doing for them? what are you doing? I mean, it's like, I don't know, I pretty much don't know anyone in North Carolina or Tennessee or anywhere who were, that were affected by Helene. But I mean, I've done more to raise money for them and get them supplies than, you know,

most of the people who are running around going, oh, we need to do stuff for our people. Okay, well, what are you doing? And, you know, shout out to people like Jay Ford, not me, not you, Mellon, all those guys who went up there and put in the time and went up there when there was no electricity anywhere to be found. And, but, yeah, I mean, what did you do? You know, I mean, if you donated, you're heroic.

That's heroic. You did something. somebody who sent $5 to try to help and get tense or anything going up there did more than the person who's just blackpilling on mine. And I mean, I had people who would send me $10 be like, this is all I can send. I'm like, fucking heroic. I mean, they sent what they could, what they could spare. And there are a bunch of people who have tons to spare who were just like, nah, nah. I talk about my people all the time, but apparently they aren't their people.

I don't know, maybe because they're not in the city or something. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, look, those people you mentioned are the future leaders of, I think, this country, right? I'm a full believer in an American revival. I think America always perseveres. When it understands there's a parasite or some subversion or anything, it will clean it out. It will get rid of it and recalibrate itself. I think America's future is hopeful.

And that the term that I think of when you were speaking is solidarity, which is another left, quote, left term that's used. But I'm going to use it anyways because it applies to this. That solidarity among the people in North Carolina in the affected areas is important, that bond of unity. I think that's what we need. But yeah, that to me is a major white pill. That people went out there, they didn't just kind of, you know, point on the sidelines and say, oh, look, this is, you know, this is not good. this is bad and nothing's going to go it's going to come out of this it's really just kind of just shutting up taking action and good things will come from that yeah and yeah i want to

say that if you can't if you weren't able to send anything and you just you know you had prayers good thoughts for them that's enough yeah but it's the people who the people who could and just won't yeah i mean i just i just don't get it i just don't well i mean i can't trusted, you know, the money will go anywhere. Okay. All right. Don't. Well, I'll tell you, you know, there are people up there who, like you said, they're the future. They're the ones who stepped up, went to a very, very uncomfortable place and a dangerous place and showed that they cared. And, yeah, my hat goes off to those guys. I mean, those guys are real heroes. I, Melon and I text every day, about what's going on up there.

And, you know, apparently, Danny, who was on episode, I think it was 1148, said that what we were able to raise on our end was more than what professional, you know, professional people who raise money. Well, why? Because I'm not taking up, none of us are taking a cut. not doing this so that, you know, the red cross is like, what, 70 to 80% overhead?

You send them a dollar. They send out 20 cents, maybe 10 cents. And taking a fucking dime for doing this. We're doing this because this is the right fucking thing to do. And, you know, it really, it really pisses me off that, like, I mean, we had some people who come in just trying to black pill and everything like that and be like, oh, oh, you know, I know those guys up there. and those guys, they're not helping anybody. There's only like two people missing right now. And it's like, really?

Yeah, like, what's the purpose of that statement, right? What good does that manifest into the universe? By even putting that out there. It's just pointing out things. Yeah, you were up there. Why aren't you up there now? Yeah. So, well, yeah.

So, really, if those people were up there at all, they're probably useless, just asked to leave. That's probably the best thing you could do. I hope these people, these leaders, can somehow get into the political positions and really make institutional change, but oftentimes I find that people that are doing good on the ground don't have time for politics.

Not that there's not good people that do that, but they're too busy doing good for their community and helping people, whereas these other people who aren't doing anything, they have plenty of time to go run for office and be corrupt and all that. So I'm hoping that the people who love this country and love their communities and their people

can somehow find that time to also get into positions of power and influence. I think that's what's needed. And the support and the backing to do it. Yeah, for sure. It's all about money getting in there. So, yeah, I mean, 2024, we were going to talk about 2024, and then I just went off on some rants because, you know, I guess it's my, I guess I was using this as my end of the year ranch show.

I did a live stream yesterday. We mostly try to stay positive in that. But yeah, this was, you know, it's one of those years where it's like, oh, one person started running for, started running for president, then got replaced by, you know, what, you know, your, your wine aunt. And, you know, yet 70 million people voted for her because, you know. this country is absolutely insane in many parts. And yeah, but I mean, I don't know how people can't be hopeful. You have to believe that if she would have won

and this regime would have had their typical kind of puppet in place that financially things would have went to shit. I mean, it was just, and people like, Elon Musk would have been targeted for supporting Trump, all these people who, all these billionaires, who knows what they would have done to just absolutely destroy these people as well. I mean, look at what they did to Kanye just because he, you know, mentioned the Jews. He said the and Jews, you know, he said two words together. You're not allowed to say, the Jews.

Yeah. I mean, luckily, though, she did not win. and the American people made the right choice, right? So that's a huge white pill for me. Our only option is to be white-pilled. It can be black-pilled. There's hope out there, and America will persevere. That's just, I'm committed to that, leave.

I talk to people all the time who are like, no, it would be better off if she won. Yeah, it would be better off if our people, you know, if people who, maybe they're not our people, but them having influence and chasing their self-interest helps us. I don't believe there would be any self-it, anyone who would have been employed in the, in the Harris White House would have had our self-interest, or their self-interest would have aligned with ours in any way, shape, or form.

Oh, it would have been so much better if she would, you know, it would have woken up so many more normies. It's like, normies, really? What are they going to do? Storm the Capitol? Is that, is that what they going to do? end up in jail again. Do you see what Normies do when they get excited?

It's sad. Yeah, exactly. Well, anyway, man, we're recording this on the 23rd, so I will say Merry Christmas to you and Happy New Year. You as well. Merry Christmas. Enjoy the time with the family, Pete. And I know you're going to crush next year. Again, this year flew by, but you're putting out great content,

and I cannot wait to see what you have in store for 2025. Well, I appreciate it, and I didn't invite here to fillate me, but I do appreciate the kind words and everything. But, yeah, maybe we'll hook back up in the middle of the year and do our recap and talk about all the, you know, any good things that happened. And, you know, we can eat some crow too. Absolutely. All right, later.

Thanks, man.