The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1156: What Are These Psyops Leading To? w/ Clay Martin
Episode Date: January 7, 202568 MinutesPG-13Clay Martin is a former Marine and Army Green Beret. He is the author of several books including Wrath of the Wendigo and Barbarian Spirit.Clay joins Pete to comment on the recent event...s in New Orleans and Las Vegas. He also talks about the direction he sees the United States going in.Clay's Books on AmazonClay on Twitter/XPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekingeno show. Clay Martin is back. What's
going on, man. How are you? Wow, it's been
a really boring January. It's been
kind of twiddled myself.
Nothing ever happens.
So, yeah, nothing ever happens, ever.
So are we, do we have terrorist cells
in the United States right now? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no question. Yeah.
That's an easy one.
Yeah.
Aside from like the CIA ones, I think we have some real ones
still.
Over the border?
I mean, just.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's been apparent to me that this has been happening for a long time.
I mean, do you remember, God, it was like a year, maybe even two years ago.
They were actually interviewing a Syrian terrorist dude, like on the terror watch list that had just crossed the border and they let him go.
Like, okay, whatever, bro.
Maybe he wasn't even identified until later, but yeah, I mean, like a known, like, you know, serious.
boy, a Q dude. And that's like a one of, it's like a one in a million chance. I have no doubt that
is, I mean, it's the easiest infiltration in the world. Mexico will let you land whoever you want
for a couple of grand and walk across the board. Yeah, I have no doubt that we have, I mean,
thousands of various state actor-backed intelligence dudes, terrorists, all kinds of goofy stuff.
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind.
I mean, if he's from Syria, though, that's our boy, right?
Depends on which faction. He was from the other faction.
He was from the faction considered terrorists, which I guess was the government.
Do you remember when the CIA was fighting the DOD in Syria?
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe he was a CIA gun. I don't know.
At some point, he was fighting for us.
I mean, odds are, yeah.
That doesn't really mean a lot over there.
So when you hear that someone
Someone who is in the military
Pledges their allegiance to ISIS
What's the first thought that comes here on?
I hope they didn't have a real job
I hope they signed up for the college money
I mean it's the ground truth
This has been going on no longer than
People like to think not just with the ISIS stuff
I mean back is even as far as like the late 90s
into early 2000s and especially when the Gwatt started.
And, well, let me refer to that when the Gwatt started,
but when the GWAT got rolling, we were hurting for bodies.
They lowered a lot of the background check stuff along with the intelligence.
I'm like the way, there's like Vietnam, you're F-class dudes or whatever.
But it was well known that L.A. street gangs even were putting their guys in
and they were growing certain guys from youth to not have felonies and stuff like that
so they could go and get military experience because that's a valuable thing if you're in a street war.
It should not surprise us in the slightest that we've done the same thing with jihadis over the last 20 years,
especially because we're so, we wouldn't want to do any racisms in our background check.
So, you know, if the dude happens to have the last name of Sin Laden and he looks vaguely Arab,
I mean, God forbid we check on his status.
He came from England. He's fine.
Do you, are there any guys who get in there and they become,
sympathetic to these people that, yeah, I think we can agree, Afghanistan should have been in and out,
kill bin Laden, they let them get away. Right. Is there any, some people will say guys go into the
military here, they see what we're doing, how fucked up it is, and they have sympathies for the other
side and they eventually go over to the other side. How common do you think that is? Amongst, like,
really homegrown
Americans, almost zero.
Absolutely none.
Honestly, nobody
actually gives a shit if we're there for the right
reason or not. And the same is also true
of certain allies. Like Christian
Lebanese, they don't care why
we're there. They care if we're killing
Arabs, and that's totally fine.
You can see
some guys that grow sympathies for
we're doing the wrong thing. I think that's honestly
what happened to Pat Tillman.
But to go 100% the other way, like I've seen so much sympathy that I'm signing up with the enemy, almost nobody.
The exception to that would be when you have Muslims, religious Muslims that have signed up in our military, which you, I mean, there was a fair number of in this conflict.
You can't see it there.
And it's not that difficult to understand.
as a religion comes first basically.
I mean,
honestly,
I mean,
think we've like declared war on the Catholics in Spain for some reason.
And,
and then we signed up and we went on,
we started,
I could,
I can understand a lot more that way.
But it'd be much more common amongst that group.
You're not going to have like white dudes from Alabama,
like convert to the Taliban.
It's not going to happen.
So not that often.
Yeah.
Yeah,
that's what I figured.
which goes back to what you were saying is when you're just letting people in because you need warm bodies,
you'd never know who's going to slip through the cracks.
Especially when you need linguists.
That's one of the things that has screwed us.
And we did.
We had to have them.
The only other people I've seen like really, I guess turned traitor is kind of the right word,
is amongst like contractor weirdos who were already weirdos to start with, you know, like the intelligence agencies and stuff.
And I don't count our friend Mr. Snowden amongst that.
I mean, I think he did a great thing, honestly.
But there have been some other contractors in similar positions that
changed positions because of idealism.
Well, let's go to Las Vegas.
What the fuck happened, dude?
Fucking, you tell me.
Holy shit.
There is so much to unpack with this.
And none of it makes...
It's insane.
Oh, no, it's completely fucking crazy.
No, it's fucking nuts.
And none of it makes any fucking same.
none of it. Small detail shit.
Like when the shit first started coming out,
every team guy I know was like a fucking desert
eagle. Like who owns one of those? Nobody.
I call it a meme. I call it a meme gun.
It is. It's a fucking meme gun.
I suppose there's like a limited chance that some SF guy bought one for the
last one time, but it just really doesn't feel right.
And, you know, what the fuck did he have that gun for?
Do he think he was going to get in a shootout too?
So he brought this other stuff.
Well, he would have brought something that was more in line with a gun to fight with.
I've seen a little bit more of his background than there's public information.
And I can't share that.
But I will say that.
Dude had serious gunfighter credentials.
He would not have picked a fucking Desert Eagle.
And the second question that came to Desert Eagle is like, is this a message?
Is this a very on the nose for lack of it?
You had to do that, didn't you?
Shows canceled. We're fucking done.
But no.
Oh, believe me. Oh, believe me. I say, I say worst things on my Sunday live streams.
Was that a message? Because it felt like one.
There's a misdirection because it's so on the nose.
I don't fucking know. It doesn't make any sense.
But it doesn't make any sense on like five levels.
Then using the Tesla, okay, that immediately brings, I mean, it took like 12 hours.
I'm like, wait a minute.
I've never been inside of a Tesla, but don't they have this self-driving capability or some limited version of self-driving?
Okay, well, that immediately throws all kinds of other shit into the mix.
I wouldn't have fucking Toyota Corolla.
Like, we know how a Toyota Corolla got there.
This is like the only car in the world that I know of that opens up the possibility of somebody else acting.
The other parts about like the IED made.
Yeah, that's some fucking clans to your shit.
and even with extremely limited resources,
a man of that background could have made something completely different.
Unless the point was just to draw attention without hurting anyone else,
which also seems a little fucking bananas,
especially if you're going to die in the process.
SF guys aren't really made that way.
I know we have veteran suicides and shit like that.
That almost never happens on active duty, though.
That happens after you're retired.
And it's something about, you know, not being there anymore and all the other shit.
To see a guy that just made the master sergeant list off himself for a cause,
that's, that doesn't really fit either.
I can see him blow up the cyber truck.
I can even do all kinds of crazy shit, none of which involves suicide, intentional suicide.
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The first thing I thought was, okay, I'm looking at what's been made public of his credentials.
I'm like, he could build a bomb.
I mean, he could build a bomb from anything from any building supply.
Yes.
Store.
And, well, can we get into the email that he sent?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's some China and drones and drones that we can't see.
I mean, had he lost his shit or what?
So, or, or did he even, did he even send that?
Yeah.
My question is the same.
So I have a number of questions about the email.
And I've seen this one go back and forth in like the team guy chats.
My first instinct was, even if all that shit was true, would an enlisted SF guy be read onto that program?
And my thought would be no.
That's, man, that's some like nerd shit.
That's like shit that I expect like, you know,
Dale Stark the pilot to be read onto, not some enlisted guy.
I don't give a shit what kind of cool shit he was doing.
There's always like a limit to what we get to know.
And a lot of that actually stops at like signal stuff because why the fuck do I with my gun need to know that shit.
Now there is some overlap in signal stuff and doing spook shit.
So it's possible.
I see there's a little bit more unlikely.
it is possible. And I've other guys, especially from the European and the Asian theater,
say, well, hey, man, I was read onto some, like, crazy shit that's way above my pancreas.
I guess it's possible. Do I believe that? Do I believe what he said about the anti-grab shit?
Man, that one's, to me, that's really a stretch, too. Just, I don't, it's not even that I think
we don't have anti-gravity technology or anything like that. I think that would explain a lot,
like UFOs and shit coming out of Area 51.
I just don't buy the way that it was packaged.
It feels like somebody on Twitter's analysis was this feels like it was packaged
to have something for everyone in the Mick,
military industrial complex.
And that's kind of how it feels to me.
Like, oh, fuck, China's got advanced tech.
We need to advance tech.
Give some money to Raytheon.
I don't know.
They can blow up the fucking White House, whatever bullshit.
It just feels kind of forced.
and I just in a lot of ways feel like we're being we're being due by that email.
There's also little details that are wrong in that email.
Capitalization of ISR, capitalization of a couple other things.
The way he even wrote 110, even if I check on my phone, nobody writes it one dash 10.
It's one slash 10.
And on any kind of keyboard, those things are next to each other.
It's a tiny detail, but it's a mistake you don't make.
when you mentioned
China thing where it's like
oh China's beating us and everything
I mean
simplistically it's like
oh we need more Jets here
because
we've got to bring in
thousand million H1Bs
to fucking combat the Chinese
minutes
you know really if we free up the
strippers and construction
and gas station guys
that lets our high IQ people
go to work the skunk work
so it makes sense
the
right
Right. Fucking brilliant.
But yeah, when you when you when you when you say it that way, there is something for everyone in the mic.
It's like how is this not we know that people in that industry are worried about Trump.
Right.
They think that Trump is going to shut this shit down and I know that that's that's another argument and that's really you know that has nothing to do with with it other way.
But if they're worried that shit is going to get shut down,
then they need to manufacture things like homegrown terrorists who are driving,
you know,
using pickups as a weapon.
And,
you know,
unfortunately,
our own white boys blowing themselves up.
Oh,
yeah.
Because,
because,
and that's,
it's fucking insane,
man.
No,
it's fucking crazy.
Shit.
And especially,
I mean,
people basically forgot about the New Orleans thing that
happened at the same time.
it's easy to do because so much crazy
shit's coming out of Vegas.
When you look around at that guy,
I mean, the fact they let a fucking reporter
walk through the house
like 30 hours after
and that isn't even a detail
that stuck out to me until like cop buddies
started rogering up like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, like hold on,
man, this is, there's no fucking
way. You're going to tell me
that you turned over the crime scene of like
the biggest terrorist act in the last
four or five years
in 24 hours, left it unsecured, and then let a reporter walk through it.
And the bigger thing that point, I've had both EOD guys and cops, Roger up on this one,
everything about that fucking house looked like a room from the academy.
It looked exactly like, as what all of them said, this looks exactly like a training room,
where things are never quite right.
They're like, you know, kill houses and see you be shit.
They're never quite right.
There's closest we can make, but they're never quite right.
And if you haven't experienced eye at both, you can look at it and be like,
this is fucking wrong. This is,
this is too
organized and the details are sticking out to
even the fucking Koran's open
to, you know,
kill the dirty Kephyrs or whatever the fuck we are
and she can read it like, come on,
man, like there's no fucking way.
Yeah, that level of propaganda
right there. It's crazy.
As soon as I saw,
as soon as I saw this, well,
as soon as I saw the ISIS
flag, I'm like,
are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I mean, basically because, and another reason is,
you know, we were talking about, you know, AQ being the enemy or something like that.
Right. I mean, ISIS is basically taken over Syria and we're treating them with respect and being
like, oh, you, yeah, this is the new government of Syria. And it's like, they're, so they went
eight, they sent someone 8,000 miles to, or they recruited someone 8,000 miles away to open up a new
front. Right.
What? I mean, and you said
there are probably guys here
who are ready to be activated,
but not this guy.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. It just doesn't, it doesn't
fit. It really doesn't
fucking fit.
The other, you know, weird link,
both these guys use an electric car. Like,
I don't even know what to fuck to make it, but it's weird,
right? I mean, what are the odds? Two terrorist
attacks in the same day when we haven't
had one in a very long while, both,
with EVs. Like, is there
some fucking thing here that I'm
missing? Is it because those are
easier to track? Like, I don't know what the fuck.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And also,
you know, just a week before you have the German
the German market, the Christmas market.
Yeah. Which is basically the same
kind of attack where
apparently in this one
the
cop should have had a
section blocked off and they didn't.
And then in the German one,
there was a section where it was like for emergency vehicles.
It's like, well, I probably, it probably, somebody who's a citizen who's been there for a long time probably knows this.
I mean, it's right fucking odd, man.
It is.
It's entirely too fucking odd.
Yes.
And yeah, the chief of police not knowing they had those barriers, those barriers had allegedly already been moved for the Super Bowl.
It's just, no, man.
And it just, it does, there's two, when there's this many details that are fucked up and weird,
it really does start adding up like, one or two, like I get it.
This many anomalies, you're like, no, no.
So what are you, what are you willing to say?
What are you willing to theorize?
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's comes back to a political question, I think.
And the question has been for a long time, you know, back to when they tried to kill Trump in,
uh, in July, at which I, I really think they actually.
did try to do.
Are they going to let him take the reins of power or not?
And I thought for a long time, no.
And then we had the election.
And the election was, it was too fucking easy.
That's the weird thing about the election.
You know, I called that too.
Everybody's like, oh, it's going to go to the courts as you were not going to know for weeks.
And I'm like, and something inside me just said, we're going to know that night before we go to bed.
Right.
it surprised me because I did not see that coming.
It was a fucking trouncing.
It was not even a question.
So I'm still reeling from that a little bit like, what?
And the question was, are they going to whack him so that J.D. Vance, who's a lot more,
I would have thought, like, their guy, he's a tech entrepreneur.
And he seems like he probably played for that team.
So I don't know.
It's really fucking weird in light of these things.
On the one hand, it was like, if Trump is actually an opposition force, they won't let him in.
But it seems like it's been fucking easy.
No court challenges.
Everything fucking smooth sailing.
So I really don't know what these terrorist things could be about.
If it was to start something so that he couldn't take power, that would be one thing.
But it doesn't feel like that at all.
Maybe actually this is just lining things up for Trump to bring the hammer down more with the surveillance state.
I don't really understand what the objective was here.
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Or if Trump is going to be in charge at all.
So my theory since the beginning of the year was that all of these, this new set of elites
are surrounding him and they're basically paying forever.
I mean, at the beginning of this year, Trump had no money.
It wasn't until that DJT stock dropped, that he had,
that he was flush, put it that way.
I'm not saying they didn't have any money, but he didn't have that kind of money.
Gotcha.
And so it was kind of obvious to me that he was going to be doing the bidding of the people
that got him elected, keep him out of jail, did everything they possibly could to get him elected.
Gotcha.
Now, what I know about some of these tech guys is they're really, really red hot on China.
They don't want China to win the AI war.
They don't want China to win the quantum computing war.
They don't want China to win the tech war.
Right.
So when I look at that and I examine that, I'm like, okay, so what are they possibly doing?
You know, many of them are like, you're talking about how we need to get the military back to the way it was during, even talking about during the Cold War.
It used to get built back up so we don't get fucked with.
And, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
It just seems like in that direction, when you hear people talking about China so much, China, China, China, and then, you know, I don't think, I don't think Ukraine's going to be going to be ended on January 20th, but I don't think it's going to be going to be.
last much longer. I think there's a pivot to China and if there's a pivot to China, this kind of
stuff doesn't surprise me because you're going to need to show maybe the economic is not as powerful
a motivator that they think that the American people will get behind, but if they believe that there's
some danger with China. True. No, that makes that that's a brilliant analysis actually.
That also lets you bring the economic hammer down on China while taking some damage yourself.
But, I mean, that severely restricts their ability.
So maybe that's all part of this.
That makes a lot of sense.
I mean, I can't think of a more logical conclusion.
And what the fuck?
We need you go fight in the Middle East again?
You know, go beat up Iran.
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
That only makes sense if you want your rate you on stock to go up.
You can do it another way by pouring ass loves of money into R&D and trying to make
future weapons and all the all the bullshit that we always do.
Interesting, interesting question.
Yes.
Yeah, I think the whole Middle East thing is they just don't see the money in it anymore.
And it's so, I think Israel's really shown its ass in the last 15 months.
And, you know, do you really want to, you know, genocide Joe?
Do you want to be, do you want to be associated with that?
I don't care how much money Merriam Aedelson gave Trump.
I mean, Timothy Mellon gave him more money, and Elon Musk raised more money for him.
So there are people in this crowd that have other interests.
But let me ask you this.
Do you think China, what is the threat from China?
What's your take on the threat from China?
my analysis of this is is way different than most people so i'm going to you know caveat that i'm not a
china expert because that's never been my my area of focus but i don't think china's a fucking threat
they've got such a problem with their excess male population uh that's that's going to blow up
on them and the chinese are traditionally so racist too that you can't just marry them off to
fucking africans or whatever kind of bullshit that somebody else would be able to do that's not
going to work. I think China is overdue for an internal implosion between the excess male
population and the fact that the middle class over there has never really, the middle class that was
supposed to be developed by all this work and all this slaving in the fucking factory and shit
has never happened. I kind of really think that old Gigi Ping has lost the mandate of heaven
to the majority of his population. And I think they're overdue for an implosion. So I'm not
scared of the fucking Chinese at all. I don't think they can project power.
far enough to matter to us anyway.
I don't really give a shit what they do in the bathtub of the South Pacific.
It's not my problem.
I just don't see it.
I really don't fucking see it.
And, you know, okay, cool, they're more advanced on drone tech.
Well, their ships are still made at a Chinese, and they can't really take them anywhere.
I mean, I don't think they could muster enough ass to get to Australia, much less anywhere else.
So I just don't see it as that big of a problem.
So you think that anything would be overblown to,
they would be, you know, they're building, like, mentally, they're building a Potemkin village
in our mind that the, they're this gigantic power and that they can exercise power over,
over us.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Yes.
That's kind of always been the Chinese way anyway.
It's just like North Korea.
Like, you know, you pull the curtain back, you're like, oh, fucking come on, man, really.
Most of their shit doesn't work.
Oh, they built, you know, next-gen fighters.
like, okay, man, they built one that kind of works.
And there's a reason you don't see a fly every day because they can't.
Now, maybe I'm wrong on this.
Maybe they're doubling down on like AI attack and unmanned shit.
And that really is the threat.
But I just, I just really don't see it.
China, I don't even think they can exercise any, you know, imperial ambitions
because they've got so much shit to fix at home.
I just don't think they can do it.
And it's also very easy for our guys to build them up as the new, you know,
dragon from the east, just like we did Russia during the cold.
Most of Russia shit didn't work during the Cold War either, but, you know, our own intelligence,
oh God, it's fucking terrifying.
They've got, you know, all this bullshit.
I kind of see the same thing happening right now.
Do you think we have imperial ambitions?
Do we take this talk about Canada becoming part of the United States and Mexico,
like Mexico seems to be subservient in,
you know, in a way. I mean, are we taking this seriously?
I don't think so. I don't think we have any imperial ambitions in the traditional way.
I think we like having our little country, and I think we like, you know, holding people under our thumb,
but we don't actually want them to be part of us. Like, no, hell, no, just paste the tribute.
And I think we like keeping that going. So I think that's the direction.
Well, let's switch us up. One of the things we talked about last time you came on the show was, like,
where the culture was going, honor culture, things like that.
Okay, so that's, I mean, if it was seven, eight months ago,
that's a lifetime ago in our era.
Yeah.
With the election of Trump and everything you've seen,
any kind of attitude you've seen since then,
what direction do you see the culture going in?
Oh, man, I think, I think actually in the last three weeks we saw,
something insane fucking change.
When Elon popped up at the mouth about the H-1Bs,
and you saw the people coming out of the fucking woodwork for fuck no.
And the Pagit hate just went like off the fucking chart.
And then, you know, Elon immediately started, you know,
banning people pulling blue check marks on those other bullshit.
Trump doubled down on it.
I think that we've seen what our masters actually think.
And I think resistance to that is far higher than I would have anticipated.
I was shocked, actually, by the response.
I didn't think that many people really felt that way.
So I think that's an indicator of a hard cultural shift back to, like, more traditional
American values of this is our country and nobody can fucking have it for free.
So that may actually be the next cultural conflict is now we've got to go to war with the people
that allegedly are allies right now over this kind of.
kind of shit. Well, when you take into consideration, like, you know, a lot of what Elon was saying, I mean, he basically had a tantrum. And I've always said he just seems like a big kid. He's a gamer. He stays up. He's autistic. Yeah, he bounces from woman to girl to girl and everything, like the most popular kid in high school or something like that. But Vivek, I mean, he he showed his ass.
I mean, he basically said, he said in that tweet,
these people that were importing are better than Americans.
Oh, yeah.
So what does that culture go?
I mean, so in Canada right now,
anyone who's known Canadians and I grew up knowing Canadians,
no, they're some of the nicest people on the planet.
Yeah.
It seems to me the only, by importing fucking ass ton Indians,
they've turned Canada
and Canadians
racist
and Canadians are having
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Well, I mean, I just interviewed a...
I just interviewed an Indian last week, and he's been for years going around.
He went to school there, then he went to school in England, and he just looked back on his country,
and he's like, this may be the most disgusting, not only the most disgusting place on Earth,
but an irredeemable people.
And what he said was, he goes, take this into consideration.
The best of them are already here.
Yeah.
He said, you have not seen.
the average, you have not met the average
Indian yet. Right. Right. So what happens?
No, it's totally true. Yeah, Vivek
is there and he's like, you know, I was taken in by Vivek. He was speaking
my language. Right, me too. He was speaking my language. Me too.
And I get it. And then you see this and you're like, you know,
maya culpa, holy fuck. Yeah. What do we do?
What, I mean, there's a fucking ass ton of Indians in this country, dude.
Well, no, it was great that he did that though. That was probably, that's maybe the
important thing that's happened in the last year, actually.
He had a mask off fucking moment, and that
showed people like, hey, look, a lot of these cultures
are hyper, hyper, hyper, hyper, fucking racist
in the ways that like an Alabama clansman cannot
even fathom their level of racism.
And Indians are that way.
Most Asians are that way for their own culture,
and they will do whatever the fuck it takes
to propel their people forward,
especially in India of their cast or whatever.
bullshit. Yeah, holy shit. Kind of surprised me too, because I haven't worked in techs. I haven't
been around a lot of Indians. It's something that's easy for me to forget. But the moment he
did that, it seemed like it woke a lot of people off. And yeah, it is fucking great. People
started bringing shit out of the woodwork that I didn't know, that I didn't understand. Like
the fact that the Indians and Texas have, what is their own bank that's actually supported by
the state of Texas. They've, they've managed to take over completely. And they've basically financed
all these truck stops and shit. Well, it's funny, right down the road for me, we have an interstate
exit for my fucking tiny-ass town in the middle of fucking Oklahoma, Indians have bought three to four
truck stops there. And they've just turned into shit. I wouldn't even go in them anymore.
They're filthy. They're fucking disgusting. They smell like fucking incense and barks. I mean, it's
fucking awful.
But something that would have been an isolated incident.
Now I understand why.
This is happening everywhere.
Then people bring up, you know, I wouldn't have realized how hard it was for a white
dude to get a job in tech because I don't fucking work in tech.
I don't have any friends in tech.
People started coming forward with those stories of, you know, how difficult it was.
It really does make you stop and think.
And I do think that woke a lot of people up to the reality of these fucking people are
are trying to take over and they dislike you because you're white or black or Chinese.
Fuck on what are you not Indian.
And there's nothing you're going to do about that.
You're not changing that.
Well,
the thing that really,
I mean,
I've,
believe me,
I travel enough and stay in enough hotels off of the interstate that I've had,
I've had opinions for a very long time.
But the thing that really got me was when this guy who they're making AIs are,
the guy with the fucked up head,
You know what I'm talking about that?
Yeah, yeah.
When he, there was a video of him that someone found where it said, I don't even really know how to code.
I'm just a good salesman.
I'm like, so we have no fucking white boys here who can sell?
We have, I mean, how many Jews do we have in this country?
We have to import when we have like salesmen here already.
That's when you start to realize this isn't about business.
This is about what, well, it is.
It's cheap.
There's a cheap labor part of it, but there's also a part of it where it's like, fuck you.
These people are going to do some Camp of the Saints level shit on you.
Oh, yeah.
And your country is never, you're never going to look the same again.
No, you're not.
Yes.
Canada, bring it back Canada.
Remember they had to, like a year or two ago, they had to put signs on the beaches, don't shit on the beach.
Because it was, I mean, it was a fucking problem.
It was like an epidemic level.
problem. And
God damn, who was it?
Somebody relatively famous on
female Indian was just
a female ethnic Indian was just talking about.
She took her 13-year-old cousin back to India,
which she hadn't been to in whatever amount of years.
And a dude was ripping her pants off
on the goddamn bus trying to get out of, you know,
the airport.
These problems,
it's just like the Muslims in Europe,
the North Africans in Europe.
These are cultural problems
that you cannot, you cannot fix.
them with magic paper or magic dirt or magic fucking laws.
This is what these people believe and there's nothing you can do about it,
except keep them out of your fucking country.
That's it.
It's the only way it can be done.
I heard the craziest fucking,
so I've known people who've gone to India before and they say that as soon as the,
as soon as the door on the airplane cracks, you smell it.
You, it just, it hits you.
And then I heard this number the other day, and I had to look it up.
Basically 60% of Indians, you're talking about 600 million people, almost double the amount of people in the United States.
Yeah.
Like, shit in public.
Yeah.
It's fucking crazy, isn't it?
I mean, and this is the elite human capital.
We want to bring, well, no, it's not that.
Come on, man.
Come on.
You cannot grow up in that and not have it affect you.
And I'm not saying they're going to come here and shit in the street.
I'm sure they are.
But what I'm saying is that a society that would allow that, that would be commonplaces, that would be the rule.
Why would you want them anywhere near your culture?
It all comes back to culture.
It's like their culture there is shitting in the street, cheating people, cheating their own family, fake degrees.
I mean, all of this, I mean, it's just a basic, a scam culture, and it's one of the most disgusting cultures in the history of mankind.
And it's like, oh, we need them here or we're going to lose.
What the fuck?
What are we going to lose?
Who's going to be this?
This is actually part of the problem.
And I've seen this happen when, especially like liberal white women, when you're talking about Arab culture as well.
When we would come back from over there and say things like, yeah, you know, they wipe their ass with their hand and they fuck little boys.
especially liberal white women
assuming that we were just
racists making shit up
because it sounds so fucking crazy
it's the same thing I think
with like the street shitters and the scam culture
and the rape culture of India
it is hard for
both liberal white women
or men that are trying
to be a good little
fucking government stooge
fucking anti-racist
to believe that that could possibly be true
because it's so foreign it sounds
fucking insane.
It is true, though.
This is fucking normal shit.
This is what happens. This is culturally
acceptable. Like you said, it's twice the population
of the United States, shit's in the street
every day.
It's hard to, it's hard to project, though,
that that's really what happens.
Yeah, it's
so out of
like a movie, like out of a dystopian
novel that people don't want to take
into consideration that in our,
because we live in our world and because we
have indoor plumbing and because, you know, like, I mean, I live on a sept, I have a septic system,
which is nasty enough every once in a while when you have to get that cleaned out and
everything.
People don't, they take, they think that everywhere, or if they go to Europe, it's like, well,
you know, we're from Europe and that's, it looks, it's older than us, but, you know,
everybody looks like us and acts like us, kind of.
Right.
Certain ways.
Right.
I don't think these people, you know, if, unless you've, you've, unless you've,
been to a culture that's outside of yours. And I would even say, and I'm not saying anything bad
about Slavic culture. It's just different than our culture. It's not India. I'm not comparing.
Don't fucking get mad at me. But it is a, it is a different culture. And you see it when you go to
Slavic countries. And people just do not want to accept that there are some people that you,
there are people you do, I don't care how educated they are. That's what this guy,
Giant Bandari said. He said, it's the people who go to college too. And people will be like,
well, I mean, they went to college and everything. So look at the people who went to college in this
country. They're complete, some of them, I mean, most of them are complete pieces of shit.
It's like, so why would you think it's any different that, what you think that somehow
they're going to abandon their culture and that's going to be what excised out of them in
college makes that fucking sense.
No, it's fucking crazy.
And I mean, do you remember when they started having kiosks and malls that were almost
universally staffed by Arabs and Indians?
And that I remember when this started happening around, I don't know, probably like 2010
or some shit, but I guess it's been a lot of time in the fucking mall, but you know what I'm
saying?
I've been in there.
And that like a pushy salesman, bizarre, and I mean literal bizarre.
type culture where like the fucking dude won't leave you alone.
That is so foreign to us.
I really like,
I have to deal with that shit already when I'm deployed.
And I come back here and somebody gets to my face like that.
I want to smack with the fucking mouth.
And you have to like restrain yourself.
It makes you not want to go to those places anymore.
But again, this is this is a culturally alien thing.
We're not like that.
Americans, Europeans, we're not that way.
We let those spaces be taken over by these fucking people.
And it will never change.
It's ingrained into the,
This is how you do the fucking job.
Yeah, it's not like it just goes away.
Well, I figured out there was a mall in Atlanta that I figured out that most of the kiosks were being manned by Israelis who were here illegal.
So as soon as they walked up to me, I would just say I work for ice.
Oh, it just fucking other direction.
All right.
Let's go back to something we were talking about in the beginning.
Sure.
So you believe and you think there's no doubt that there are terrorists here, there are cells here, there are people who wish to do us harm.
Yes.
How do you think that plays up?
Worse than terrorists are the agents of foreign governments that can act like terrorists, except they actually know what the fuck they're doing.
There's shitloads of those too.
In fact, I would say there's probably more of those than are actual terrorists.
They have more money.
They have more strategic thought, and they can thank those years and decades ahead.
They're truly state sponsored.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, fucking Chinese commando dicks and, you know, Russian, I don't know, GRU fucking guys.
Iranian, like, actual trained commandos, not some, you know, dickhead in a turban.
Yeah, there's, I mean, I'm sure thousands of those dudes here.
Those are the ones that actually scare me.
is that you know some
fucking idiot going down bourbon street shooting some people
yeah that's tragic and it sucks
and if you're wrong place wrong time
the other guys are the one
to actually like bring this country to its fucking
knees
one of the
the things recently that shocked me
what's her name
the famous CIA chick was on the Sean Ryan show
and then she was on Tucker Carlson show also
Sarah Adams
yeah Sarah Adams yeah sorry Adams
yeah yeah
anyway I had my own suspicions that she may still be
playing for the other side too and saying the things she used to say. But when she brought up the
things I didn't know about the, the transformer station in California, it's got a famous name too.
I can't remember right now. But it had, they brought in a steel platoon to look at what was done after
and basically came to the conclusion that there were some crazy shit that happened, the tunnels
underneath that place too. It wasn't just the transformers were taken out. And it was highly
likely to be a North Korean
op. I'm like, oh,
fuck.
Because if that's true,
I mean, that's a good dress
rehearsal. And that also tells
me, like, they could bring our
power grid to its fucking knees
overnight.
Think about somebody that, like, really, really
hates us and absolutely would not be able to
assimilate, like the, yeah, like the Chinese.
And what if I went into Chinese
Socom five years ago and drew in all my little Commando dicks was like all right listen
motherfuckers two thousand of you are going to America in three-man cells and uh you're just going to
hang out and uh I don't know do the Al-Qa thing go to the teddy bar whatever you want to do
but uh you know on this date or at this fucking signal all right you're going to go to the
whatever your target is the nearest thing and and break this little piece you know of whatever
water power fucking internet you tell me you don't think the Chinese have a strategic thought
to figure out what thousand targets could just absolutely shatter our infrastructure.
They could.
That's some scary shit.
What's the answer to that?
I mean, I know what my answer is, and it's the answer that no one wants to fucking hear.
It is mass fucking deportations unless you've been, unless you can trace your family back generations here.
Right.
And a question, because they have, they've spent all this, this time getting these assets in the
place. When you do that, is that the trigger? Is that the, is it like, okay, fuck it. Well, it's now
or never then. I mean, I believe that you're right. Absolutely. That's the only way to do it.
I just, I, I don't think we'll ever have the political will for that, though. I think it will
have to be too late. And then we can clean up the mess and get it done, but we're going to have
to pay, I mean, fucking severely for it first. Yeah, that, um, the Indian gentleman that I was
talking about it was on my show. He lived here for a while. He lived in Canada for a while. And now he
lives. I can't disclose. He does want me to disclose where he lives. He's in a, you know, small country
somewhere. Yeah. And he said one of the reasons, he said, I would have loved to stay in the United
States. I would have even loved to stay in Canada. He goes, but I see violence in your future. I see,
I see widespread violence in your future.
I do it. I agree. I just don't think there's any other fucking way. I mean, the worst thing about like the Chinese, for example, is probably 50% of them are CCP assets and the other 50% like hate the fucking CCP more than I ever can, but I can't tell the fucking difference.
You know, what, what am I going to do? Ask you 20 questions.
Epiop Time. Epok Times who side. Epok Times says terrible shit about, you know, they're obviously anti-CC.
Yeah. Okay. Does this epoch, do those guys in their compound in upstate New York?
York? Do they have guys who are
pro-CC who have
infiltrate? I mean, the fuck.
It's very, yes.
It's sad, but it's true.
And when things get so bad that you have to be sure,
well, you have to be sure.
And what was the,
oh man, I should remember why my latin always sucks,
but kill them for the Lord knows which are his.
Eventually, that's what it comes down to.
If there is, if they allow.
Okay, so I have a tendency to believe that most of the people who work for the government are fucking retards.
But also, but there's a reason that it keeps going because there's a small core group of really intelligent people who know how to keep it going and know how to manipulate.
They know.
They have to know that access to these, to power stations, to all these things that will destroy it, take information.
structure down that that can happen and that it's most likely to happen.
How the fuck do they benefit from that?
The only way that you really benefit from that if you're in that position is if you're
one of the global citizens and the truest sense of the word that already hasn't out and you
intend to go somewhere else while this country fucking eats itself and there's a structure
already in place to then govern from from there.
Which may be the point also.
That's getting a little tinfoil fucking hat.
But if I needed to X out somebody on this planet
so that I could really instate a world government for everywhere else,
who is it?
Fucking United States.
Armed to the teeth, fucking fighting as fucking rednecks.
I got to kill them.
I don't have to kill anybody else.
This is how it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
go after the people who even if they don't realize it and they've buried it have that Faustian spirit and are really the only ones on the planet who have that
Well, I've said this many times and people get upset about it, but it's true, but really who has shown a propensity for self-government?
On this whole fucking earth, it's Western Europeans and that's it. They're the only ones and Western Europe is fucked. So we're the last ones left. So yeah, you take out the United States of America and
You can do what you want.
Every once in a while, I get in a back and forth with, you know, some Jew.
Yeah.
And I'll tell them, I'm like, look, you have an out.
You have a place to go.
Although your people are fucking out of pretty.
It doesn't seem like the safest place to go.
I don't.
I don't have anywhere to go.
I've lived overseas before.
This is my home.
This is I fucking, I love it here.
I don't want to live anywhere else.
And I'm always going to come back here.
I have no place to fucking go.
I can get my German citizenship back, but why would I want to go to Germany?
It's fucked.
Would you like to be stabbed or acid attacked or groomed?
Like those are your fucking choices.
Yeah.
So it's like, okay, so I have nowhere else to go.
So it's like I'm either going to die fighting here or we're going to win.
I mean.
Exactly.
Right.
It's the only thing that matters at this point.
You know, and you may have to die, a lot of us may have to die in order to win.
Oh, yes.
That's not even a question.
No, I agree.
Unfortunately, yes.
So what do you think people should be doing?
Fuck.
Oh, fuck.
I think a lot of people have fallen into this place.
We have four years to get our shit together.
No, we don't.
Like, I don't trust any of these motherfuckers.
Trump, Vance, none of this fucking big.
none of these motherfuckers.
I don't know what happens next,
but I just,
I don't see any,
any way out of this,
that there's not massive violence in the short term.
That might mean two years,
might mean three,
but things are going to keep escalating to that point.
Things are already fucking terrible right now.
Like a woman set on fucking fire in the goddamn subway.
I mean,
what in the fuck?
I don't know exactly how this goes,
but it's going to get fucking ugly.
So right now people need to be getting their personal shit together,
get strong, work on your friendships.
Think about what you would do in a worst case scenario.
The fucking grid is all fucked.
I don't give a fuck, there's a hundred factions fighting each other.
What are you going to do to keep yourself safe?
And that's not fun to think about, but that's where we are.
Would you recommend that the average person not go, you know, once this kicks off, not go looking for it,
you're basically waiting for it to come to you and doing everything you can in the meantime?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, let's train, kill everybody they can, let the cities eat themselves because there's nothing.
I mean, fucking nothing we can do for that.
People don't like to hear this because it's hard to pick up and move, too.
but if you've been on the fence about moving to a place that's more in line with your values,
like this is the fucking time.
It's hard to pick up and uproot and shit like that,
but you have to be around people like you when this goes down or you're fucked.
Yeah.
I think anybody who's in a multicultural area does not realize that people are going to immediately become very tribal.
and if your tribe is the minority,
you are fucked.
People should look at the studies out of prisons.
Like, why do they segregate by race?
Well, that's how the fuck you stay alive.
And that's just, it's sad, but that's how things are.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think the, I've been saying for a few years.
And people don't like to hear this because it's like,
well, all the political powers in the cities,
the cities who hold all the political power.
I'm like, if you,
know the places to go, there are places in this country that are apolitical.
Right.
That are people who don't live in small towns and don't even, they know who their mayor is,
but they may know their mayor because they go to church with them.
They don't know that he's actually mayor until someone tells them.
It just, that doesn't mean anything.
But if you're in these, if you're this cosmopolitan person who has to be near a city,
and you, you're really fucked.
even in places like Oklahoma
where a lot of the big cities
are predominantly white.
Yeah.
Well, I mean,
you still have no resource.
Yeah.
Yeah, I still have a resource to keep themselves fed.
And, you know, you cut the power and trucks for a couple of days.
Those places are all fucked.
All right.
I'm going to go back to the beginning again.
Do you think that this,
the,
the cyber truck in New Orleans
are going to disappear from,
or is,
this from, you know, it's, I mean, the Trump assassin, people don't remember the Trump assassination.
They don't remember the second one.
They don't remember that, like, there were like seven attempts on his life that were, like,
caught really, really early in the, and these, this wasn't like FBI setting people up kind of
thing.
This was like real shit.
Right.
Or it could have been, you know, you don't know.
I think the second guy was definitely with that you, that Ukraine connection he had.
Right.
fucking weird.
Really fucking weird.
Yes.
But also bringing an SKS to try to shoot someone through a large way.
I'm playing on a hard book.
But do you think, if put it, all right, let me phrase it this way.
If this goes away and it isn't continually, continually pushed, was it just like a test?
It's not something that they'll try to use unless they're, they build upon it with something.
else down the line.
Yeah, I don't know exactly
what it was. These feel like messages
to me. I know like I can't
fucking decipher them. I don't
think, okay,
New Orleans could have been, well,
okay, let's say that New Orleans was a different
kind. The Vegas one, I think
that's going to be in the news for a while.
It's taking us down so many fucking rabbit holes
and it feels so intentional
that I don't think it disappears.
If it does disappear, then
fuck, I
don't know. Yeah, that makes me think
maybe this was a whistleblower
or trying to do some fucking crazy shit or somebody playing
outside of the system. If it stays
in the news, though, then it was, you know,
I think government driven.
So that's kind of the test.
You think they may try to use it to
do what they did back in 2021 and
try to weed out white boys who
you know, get...
That's an interesting question.
Because we've seen things flip the other way
in the last year. We started
seeing white guys and recruiting commercials and recruiting commercials stopped being about, you know,
college money and started being about adventure and we can't outright say, you know,
killing some brown people. We are implying it heavily. So it seems like that switch has been
flipped. Maybe it's an excuse to go after like the veteran community that are not under control.
They used an active duty guy, but still it's a way to do that. I don't know. I don't see if they
intend to fight somebody. I don't see how they can push any more white guys out. That's who you
need to fight your wars, turns out. We're also seeing this like implosion of DEI to a degree.
So I don't know that that's the angle that they go for. Yeah, I could see it as a use for, you know,
your anti-government veteran guys, which is very naughty and you should never be. But that's the
only way I can see it really going. Is there any way that the one in New Orleans is,
because this seems
opposite. It seems like one
would cancel the other out.
It seems like the one in
New Orleans would be a perfect kind of one
to recruit.
But then the one in
Vegas is like, how do you
turn, how do you
spin that to
not get people to
be like, oh well, who else is in the military
like this? Or do you use it to be like, hey, we need more
people in the military who are of their right
mind and I mean that right you could actually turn that into recruitment as well maybe the one in
Vegas was actually organic in the emails and the fake bullshit are spin after the fact I don't know
I mean I would say there's really really high odds that that that guy that died in the cyber
truck of the fucking hobo and you know the real guys walking this earth so yeah I don't know
If you would have seen that, say you were in another country and you would see those two things happen at the same time.
I think that that's the one thing where people, the people who are like, I mean, this doesn't seem like an op.
This doesn't seem like a conspiracy of any sort.
But I think if you, one thing people would need to do is look at another country, see the election we just had, see the culture that we've, these culture wars that we've had.
and then look at these two things happening on the same day.
Right.
And tell me that you wouldn't look and go, oh, there are some, the NEDs over there
and they're doing a color revolution in the country or something like that.
No, I agree 100%.
It's just, it's too, the odds are too great.
The odds are too great for one to be totally organic and one not.
So, yeah, and again, the messaging, whatever the fuck it's supposed to be,
doesn't exactly make sense, but I mean, maybe it's just a detail that we're missing so
far. But yeah, it feels it feels very fucking weird timing.
What do you think the future of the military is?
It depends on what the assholes in control really want to do.
What's their objective?
If they feel like we need to actually go fight China for some fucking reason, you'll see a lot
of recruiting, a lot of rally around the flag.
please white guys from Alabama sign back up we need grunts uh everything's cool now um if that's not
their goal then that you'll continue to see you know the DEI degradation of our military and our
rusty ass ships sinking and women running them the ground and uh and all this crazy bullshit so
I mean one one of the thing you don't want if you are going to bring the United States to its
knees is you don't want, you know, white guys to have another four years of finishing school
and fucking Ranger Battalion or something where they actually learned how to do some dangerous
shit. So, I mean, that'll kind of be to tell. I mean, it would be a good idea if you're going to
start a real war, though, somewhere to let Trump take the election and say all the right shit
and get those guys back so you can ship them overseas to die. Is it a conventional war even,
is it even feasible anymore? I mean, I think you look at anyone who,
examined, read anything that's been written about the way war has been waged in Ukraine
for the last two years, well, almost three years now, has to believe that conventional war is
just, I mean, I remember having Lee Enfield on like a year and a half, like almost a year and a
half ago, and he was reading, he was reading Army War College and they were like, with the
amount of fighting men that we have in our military, if we were Ukraine, if we were Ukraine,
Crane fighting that war.
We would have been out of guys in like a month and a half.
True.
Yeah,
no,
that's true.
I mean,
Ukraine is kind of suck at fighting,
though.
Fortunately,
so,
Russia.
I mean,
right,
right,
right.
But I don't know.
Well,
I mean,
Russians,
the Russians sent the Chechens in first.
You don't want to fight those fucking people.
Right.
That's fucking true.
It's an interesting question.
One of the,
the smarter seals that a lot of us follow on Twitter.
He brought it up early.
He said,
you know, the drone has changed warfare as much as the machine gun did.
Just we don't understand that yet.
And so that'll be, you know, 30 years of development of, you know,
weaponized and counter weaponized.
So, yeah, I don't know.
But could we come back up to like World War II levels if we needed to?
Probably.
You know, the right set of motivators and, you know, all that kind of shit.
Yeah, we can do it.
I don't know.
We will see.
I mean, that would be, that would be a good tactic.
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a tactic to get, you know, Scotch Irish kids from the South.
Because let's face it, I mean, we, I was talking to, you know, cops six, seven years ago who were like, yeah, we just can't, every time we hire somebody at, that isn't former military, it's like we're hiring a woman.
Yeah, we're basically hiring a woman.
if they haven't been in the military.
So it's like you're not going to,
you're not,
the cities aren't going to be the ones that are supplying this.
It's going to be the areas.
And like you,
you said before,
if you want to,
if you want to get rid of all the fighters,
the people that can actually,
you know,
pull a trigger and do it and
be able to sleep at night,
you're,
you're going to the south.
You're going to the Midwest.
Yeah.
that's that's how it's always been uh
i think with anne colder it was a long time it was like 20 years ago
basically pulled up a made a map of the united states and then like medals of valour awarded
since like you know 1910 or some shit and uh yeah it's crazy it's fucking
it's huge concentration in the south and the midwest uh in spite of population and that's
that's just who your fucking warfighters have almost always been
and yeah you want to get rid of those fucking guys
Well, send them somewhere with, to fight some drones or something.
Yeah.
Do we survive this?
Fuck yeah, we're going to win.
Just going to really suck to do so.
We're going to win, and it's really going to suck.
That's how I see it.
Even people who've positioned themselves in areas that won't be,
that it's very unlikely that it'll be touched by all this.
you're still going to suffer because things are going to supply lines will be
Oh yes, medicine, all the shit.
Yes, awful.
Difficult, I mean, painful on a level that's hard to fathom,
even as like a, you know, fucking GW.
This will be the GWAT and all this other bullshit will be like a fucking walk in the park
compared to how this looks.
And that's, that sucks, but that's, that's facts.
You could have Eastern front conditions in some places.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or, I mean, even here, you can have Sherman's type of conditions here.
Yeah.
Everybody reads Storm of Steel and think about how shitty that is.
Oh, yeah.
That book is, you know, after that, anyone who's romanticizing war is.
It's one of the only books ever with the numbers were so big.
I had to stop reading.
Like, hold the fuck on.
I'd put the book down.
to like Google. How many people actually died, you know, whatever? And like percentage of the German population, like, a scale that is basically unfathomable. But yeah, everybody should read that one. That should be mandatory reading.
And not only that. So you win and who's in charge afterwards.
Amazing.
Are certain areas being treated like Austria and being put on 800 calories a day?
or the South where you have newspaper articles telling blacks to just go and massacre the whites.
Yeah, exactly, right.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
We have ourselves to rely upon.
And that's it.
Politically, all you can hope for is air.
It's just, you know, to be able to come up for air every once in a while.
Yeah.
And hopefully in the next couple of years, there are some.
kind of financial
advantages where
you can actually build up some wealth
and turn that wealth into
tangible goods.
Right. Right.
And just set yourself up that they
don't become somebody else's tangible goods.
Exactly right.
Dark times,
but play the cards you dealt.
We're
dealing with reality here.
Tell everybody
about your books.
and we'll get out of here.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So the latest one is Barbarian Spirit.
I recommend it for the times that we live in.
You can find it on Amazon or you can find me on Twitter.
I am at way off the rest.
Thanks, Clay.
I appreciate it every time.
Thanks, brother.
I appreciate you, man.
