The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1163: The History of Canada's Nightmare Immigration w/ Dimes and Jean

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

68 MinutesPG-13Dimes is the host of the Blood Satellite Podcast.Dimes and Jean produced a documentary on the history of Canada's immigrations policy entitled, "Paving Over The Public: Canadian Immigration Policy in Opposition to Public Opinion." They join Pete to talk about it.Paving Over The Public: Canadian Immigration Policy in Opposition to Public OpinionBloodSatellite dot caVanguardist JournalGoodSvffer dot comPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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yeah, can't do it without you. So thank you for the support. Head on over to freeman beyond the wall.com forward slash support and do it there. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekiniano show. Dimes from Blood Satellites here. How you doing? I'm doing great. I'm I'm very, very happy to be here. This remains one of my favorite shows. And it's an honor to be able to be here to speak to you again. Yeah, it's been a while. How are you doing, John? I'm well, thank you. Yeah, everyone, this is my friend, John, for people who don't know, he's not as notorious as some of us, but he deserves to be. He helps me work on a short video that I believe we'll probably be discussing today. But he's the brains of the operation around here. Thanks. All right, well, let's get into that, man, because I know we only have an hour. So this day after the inauguration here in the United States, obviously we were talking a lot about, I mean, the big thing is immigration.

That's the one thing. People want to see Jan 6 prisoners pardoned, got that. Now we need to see the immigration stopped. And this video that you guys did together is about immigration, but to your home country in Canada. And, you know, some of us may have heard that Canada's become Pagitville. Yeah. How'd this happen, guys? Well, and that's interesting because this video we had produced a short documentary called Paving Over the Public.

It takes, you know, the Canadian perspective, but I maintain. that it's directly relatable and applicable to the American situation. It's different in the sense that there's different groups involved. So in Canada, the headlines are all about... Not totally. Not totally. Well, yeah, because also they're going back and forth between our borders. So we have a big problem with Indians, Indian migration, and there's a few causes of that.

But you're noticing that they're flowing south through Canada into America as well. whereas in America, the main groups that I'm hearing with Trump's inauguration seems to be Central Americans and Mexicans. And we've got like 12 Mexicans in Canada approximately. Yeah, I just meant the groups that are responsible for the immigration. Oh, yeah. Okay. Good point.

But we can come to, we can get to that. Let's stay on the groups that are actually going into Canada. Yes. So it's funny because, um, If you think about the conversation you're allowed to have in America, I found that, for example, like you had just pointed out, I think mass migration was the fulcrum issue of the last election. And I'm a great fan of Marco Poppix. He wrote this book called Geopulgolfo. He says every election hinges on one central issue and people pretend it's a lot, but it's really not.

And the winners decided by who actually addresses that issue. And in both instances, Donald Trump was the only one, even in his first election, the only one who even brought up mass migration. And you're actually seeing the same thing in Canada, where mass migration is pretty much what everybody's talking about. And the election will go to whatever politician actually addresses that and pretends and doesn't pretend rather that's not existing. And so the conservatives will not be that group. So, you know, everyone wants basically, you're seeing a level of, I won't. call it hatred, but I'll say disgust towards this

one group of Indians in Canada. You're seeing liberals, you're seeing conservatives, you're seeing independents, all kind of chanting the same thing. Like, these people have got to fucking go. And I would have never predicted that could happen in my life. I think my comment I think my comment

was growing up up north and knowing Canadians and then living in South Florida and living in a building full of Canadians. mostly Quebec Guards, mostly Quebec people, and was, these are nice people, and they genuinely are nice people.

Even the people from Quebec can be very nice. But wow, it took Pajet's in order to make them racist. That must be a terror. There has to be something about this group of people. And it's people speaking of it in a way that you or I might, where at one time it would be couched in just the economics and the situation, but now you're seeing regular people like, I find these people annoying and they stink and I don't like them.

Men, women, young, old, things you would never believe. So that's interesting, just like you're seeing in America. But the Canadian story is a bit different because we're very similar to America in the sense that multiculturalism is seen as the apex value to have. But in Canada, especially with the Trudeau regime, and I know Jean has some comments on this as well, But the story, and that's what the documentary is about how this paradigm we exist in Canada of that, we are a post-nation state and we are a multicultural state. And we always have been.

That's the narrative you're brought up in school. You're raised on that. I was raised on that. I live in Ontario, but it's not like that everywhere. Quebec's a bit different, you know, but still. But how recently that paradigm was created, it doesn't have its roots back hundreds of years. There is no real melting pot mythology. Everything in Canada has happened pretty recently.

So if you are 60, 70, 80 years old, you can remember a time before all this, but it's the children who are like, well, we're the only thing you're allowed to be in Canada in terms of identity is multiculturalist. And we want to investigate why is that? How did that happen? Because it wasn't always that case. And the recent mass migration has really shaken people out of that. And I think it's gotten people asking questions that I've never seen. them asked before. Ready for huge savings?

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the building was half the year was empty. And it wasn't all people from Quebec. It was a lot of people from Ontario, too. And I would ask them about the politics. I mean, this is 20 years ago. And the politics was always like, oh, you know, free health care, yada, yada of this.

And it always came, it was always economics. And it was always, you know, we love our country, come down here just to get away from the weather. We're getting older. Our bones can't take it anymore. So, you know, we spend it.

But it was never about, the culture was always like the selling point. The culture was always like, I mean, everything's clean. Everything's perfect. everything, it's harmonious. We have no problems. And even though, even back then, you did have a multicultural aspect, but the multicultural

aspect was, I think at that point it was mostly Europeans. And then some Chinese were starting to really get in there. By multiculturalism, they're like, oh, we have a Chinatown. Isn't that fun to kind of wander through? And Jean, correct me if I'm wrong here. But when I, my co-host, Judas, he made a fun point that, you know, He was brought up hearing the term the Great White North. And I had said, well, that's because of all the snow and it's cold.

He said, oh, I thought it was just because it was full of white people. He actually thought that. And I'm like, but that was true. It's like when people say, oh, Switzerland is so safe and so clean and everything. But the implicit comment there is that when you imagine a Swiss person, what do you imagine? It's just a clean European place. And I think Canada enjoyed that for a long time, although not outwardly stated. Yeah, I mean, I'm in my early 30s and, you know, even I can say that growing up, the city that I lived in, it was almost all exclusively white.

There were a couple of neighborhoods that had historically been black or been South Asian, so East Indian, Pagit, whatever we want to call it. But now you see these types of people everywhere and people have come face to face with the realities of groups not mixing to the tune of, you know, houses getting shot up due to a. extortion rackets, many videos of Indian students and temporary foreign workers speaking in Punjabi telling people that when they immigrate, they should be using food banks. So these kind of things just, they're beyond distasteful and people do have a reaction to it. I mean, the middle class in Canada was very comfortable for a time. Obviously, the single income family hasn't been a reality for a long time, but middle class typically, you know, women especially in the last couple decades could work for

home or they could work part-time or they could have cushy administrative office jobs. I can speak from experience and say that two of my co-workers' wives who had these types of jobs have been laid off in the last six months because their jobs have been exported over to India. And so at a time when you have record inflation, especially when it comes to things like groceries, for people to then have their comfortable lives completely displaced because their wives are no longer having a second income is another thing that are hitting people who are, you know, ostensibly libtars, but they're now again faced with the harsh realities of these things. Yeah, it starts with the economic issue.

And I've made a point recently that most Canadians are not truly prepared to have an economic conversation like you are in the U.S. and even in the U.K., there's not a lot of discussion on trade, but the fact that nobody can really afford a house reasonably. You know, you got the sort of platonic ideal of what we think, the economics of it should be, which is, oh, as a man should be able to support a family on a single income and the wife should be able to stay at home and raise the kids. That's the ideal. We're so far from that that people can not even afford a house with dual incomes.

And so that's a lived reality that people are dealing with. And that's how the Indian question gets brought up because you don't need mass migration. All the arguments that we're familiar with, like there is no economic benefit to any of this. that has made its way to the mainstream. And so that's one of the reasons we produced that little video, which was to put a mainstream friendly face forward because there's, you know, in the Canadian context, there's not a lot of content or media out there

that just explains this stuff. If you look up Google, if you look on YouTube, there's no resources that just explain the story. And we thought that was fascinating. So we went into it. And we, the whole purpose was to show, Okay, how did we get here? Who was responsible?

Because it's a very narrow window of time. There's only a handful of people, bureaucrats and politicians, who clandestinely with their own machinations, tried to make Canada the way it is. And what's interesting, and this is the theme of the documentary, is that we have access to all the public opinion polls at the time because they will try and tell you that, oh, this is what your ancestors voted for.

This was what they're on the side of. But if you look at the opinion polls, Canadians at the time right up until present day, they were very clear and explicit that not only were they not in favor of mass migration, they didn't even use those terms, but they just, they didn't understand the need for immigration, period. And that's what I was like to explain to people. And go back to the 40s, the 50s. And if someone asked you, are you in favor of immigration? They have not been propagandized with the narrative that it's an economic benefit. So to them, it would just be a preposterous question. Why would why do we need it, right? That doesn't even make sense. Why? So no, of course not. There actually is no benefit.

And then over time, people end up propagandized, well, well, we need it because who's going to pay taxes and how are we going to have universal health care and all that stuff? But it's so clear that the public didn't want this and yet it happened anyway. So the unfortunate story is one that populism is not effective at the polls, which is something a lot of people here. would intuit, but it's very, very clear that no one wanted it, and it happened anyway. So you can't really necessarily vote your way out of this. I think it's interesting to, oh, sorry, go ahead. Can I, yeah, can I ask you, finish your comment, but can you talk a little bit about when this started, like when, like specifically when the push for mass, what we would call mass immigration, what we would call today weaponized immigration into Canada starter.

Sure. Just to respond to Dime's point very briefly, I think it's interesting to say that the only time the Canadian government actually took a widespread sample of Canadian opinion in 1973 with regards to immigration, it was shut down, it was halted very quickly, and most of those public meetings were just taken over by communists

who disrupted everything. And the Canadian government made it very clear that if they had any kind of anti-immigration brief, they were going to dismiss it as quote unquote irrational. And this is something that we cover in the documentary. In terms of the documentary as a whole, though, what we cover is the years 1947, so the post-war years up to 1976, which is when we had a new Immigration Act under Trudeau, that is Pierre Trudeau.

To speak to your answer about when it started, I mean, Canadian immigration generally is very limited. I mean, you see two periods of immigration that could be described as significant from, let's say, 1783 to the early 1800s and then maybe like 1831 to 1850. And then there's another push for immigration prior to World War I from, let's say, like 1896 to probably 1911. And that was to settle the prairies. So all of this was, all this is to say that, you know, there was a need to settle the prairies, but besides that, there wasn't really any mass immigration or what we could speak of as mass immigration. But after World War II, there was an impetus to kind of fight, you know, racism. And so this is where you saw international pressure from the United Nations

onto Canada. And our prime minister at the time was McKenzie King. And he was very clear about being against mass immigration from even Europe, but especially anything coming from China. And in 1947, he gave a speech saying, we're not going to permit any mass immigration to Canada. If we do have refugees, it's going to be a very limited thing. But just a few days later, his administration started what was at that time the largest refugee initiative in Canadian history, which brought in approximately 165,000 people over the next six years, which at that time was a very remarkable number. So it started right after World War II. the international pressure ramped up in 1948 against the subsequent administration, which was ran by one Louis Saint Laurent, and that was because of the United Nations Declaration

of Universal Human Rights or whatever the acronym is. And so this whole thing started because of external pressure from the United Nations. But as Dimes talked about, the ideology behind this kind of permeated into our elites in the 50s and in the 60s. So, I mean, I can speak more about that if you want or we can stop there. I would just say that I just looked it up and you mentioned, what was it, 165,000? Yeah, I believe that's the number. That's up to stop my head.

Something with that. Canada's population in 1950 was 13.7 million. So you're basically talking about like 1%. Right. The equivalent of 1% of the population. I mean, you're talking about a, a. a cultural shift

that 1% can make and that 1% isn't going to stop. We know that. Yeah, and the exact same groups that would have been pushing this in America were present in Canada. So you can list a number of groups. There's the NGOs,

there's communists and leftists and progressives. Then there's no shortage of Jewish groups involved as well. Like this is all the post-war, what was it, the post-war consensus? That's the thing we're calling it now. This was the post-war consensus manifest in Canada. And as you can imagine, there's so many bureaucrats and politicians who were trying to

egratiate Canada and just like many hundreds were to the new global order. We thought, well, this is the price you have to pay. And this is something that, and I think this is only expanded over time, that we don't really have much else to bring to the table aside from sheer enthusiasm and trying to be the vanguard of that sort of multicultural progressivism. And that's why so many Canadians are brought up believing that, you know, we define ourselves against Americans, not all of us, but a lot of Canadians do like, Americans, they're backwards, they're Luddites, but we are more enlightened.

You know, we're more tolerance. Tolerance is worthy here, a lot up here. So with that comes the baggage of you don't even need to like it, but you must tolerate it. Therein lies your strength. But also because Canada is encouraged to be a multicultural patchwork. sort of a polyglop boarding house, you don't have as many efforts for integration as America. There's no mythology of the melting pot.

So what you have is these ethnic enclaves that are very objectively set up and almost encouraged. And so over time, you know, if that's kept on a minimal scale, you know, people don't care, as long as the homogenous population is dominant. But as those begin to grow as you're seeing with the Sikhs or the six, as they're like to be called, And the Indians and then even more Chinese. Like that's the other theater of this that a lot of people don't even want to talk about. Because there's ideological reasons. People feel like if you complain about China, then you're playing to the neocon narrative.

But in Canada specifically, we have a real problem with Chinese migration into the West Coast in B.C. And they're responsible for. Well, I've heard even even Toronto. I remember like 10 years ago, I was reading some report where some, um, Someone was actually, someone who lives in Toronto was actually commenting. It's like, You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive.

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And there are these Chinese who are driving around in like a hundred-th-thousand-dollar Mercedes. So who are these people? That doesn't sound like someone who, oh, the old Jewish troop. Oh, we just came here and worked hard and five years later. We bought the town of Hartford, Connecticut. Yeah, you've never seen a Chinese person work hard. You just never seen it. They're just there in shiny suits already because a lot that, again, this is what people

don't want to acknowledge. We don't really get to this in the documentary, but it is important. Sam Cooper is a Canadian journalist who's really on the forefront of this and showing how, And there's this other book called Willful Blindness. Those two, he's got Clause of the Panda is one, and then Willful Blindness. And it shows how the Chinese Communist Party works hand in glove with the triads, which are gangs, but they control the fentanyl production in factories in China. And they're responsible for the lion's share of fentanyl imports all throughout North America. This was the case in the 90s.

That's even the case now. And so you're seeing BC as a landing pad for basically for these Chinese, these fucking gangs and these gambling whales. Just to be clear, too, like the Chinese thing is an ongoing problem. And we had the Chinese Exclusion Act put in place, I believe in 1922, and it was repealed in the late 40s, again, due to the same international pressure that made us accept all these refugees and change our regulations. So it's the same source.

Absolutely. And this is a real political problem for us up here. Like, this isn't just, oh, we don't like Chinese culture. and be that as it may, you're having, you know, Chinese nationals who are running for a municipal government. You're having vast swathes of land bought up by Chinese business interests. Like, they're controlling the political structure in a lot of very key areas. And that's just the beginning of the problems. And no one really knows how to address it. And there's this, you know, I don't have the documents in front of me, but there are rumors that of the five

eyes unification of our intelligence agencies that they see, IA we have CIS up here. Ours is seen as the most inept. Like we should not have let this happen. Someone at the highest level of our intelligence community either drop the ball or is in the pocket of these forces. And again, people don't like to touch this because they think ideologically or geopolitically, you shouldn't fall for the demonization of China. But I'm like, it's different in Canada.

There are foreign power players out there. It's not just America. The Great Satan is the bad guy. I'm like, China does have designs to take shit over, make no mistake. And I think we ignore that at our peril. Well, yeah, because it's been set up that, it's like you said, you're a neocon if you start talking about that. Oh, you're just buying into neocon talking points.

We have to go to war. The pivot to China, the pivot to China. It's like, there can be a real problem with China. and you don't want to and your concerns aren't the same as some neocons or some you know who Steve Bannon, whatever he's bought in suit. Yeah, it's not because they're evil.

It's not even because they're communist. If you just look at this from a neo-realist perspective, sort of like John Mearsheimer's offensive realism school thought, like they are looking out for their own interest, the same way as America, same way as Russia. All these big players are looking for their own interest. They will take an edge where they can get. That's all it is. You don't even need to necessarily hate them to believe that, well, of course, they will take advantage where they can. And it would behoove us. And this is the story of what Canada is dealing with. That's why America is so concerned with Canadian sovereignty and why Trump is pressuring Canada so much, in my opinion, to keep up our end of the defensive pact. Because Arctic sovereignty is a big deal. Does Canada have the internal defense infrastructure to project power?

within its own borders to achieve the dominance over the Arctic region for North American interests. That's really what Trump wants to know. That's what NORAD is, basically. And, you know, maybe we don't. Maybe our defense infrastructure is kind of lacking right now. And that's a real problem for China, for Russia. Again, you don't need to hate them, but this is just geopolitic. Well, one of the things I took away from the other short documentary is, I mean, it's like

every single time. It's the phrase every single time. How did these, I mean, from what I understand, like right now, less than 1% of the population of Canada is Jewish, how did these people get elected? Where do they come from? I mean, I can understand NGOs, but you had people in there who were on the inside. And people want to say, oh, well, you know, why are you noticing this? Why is it? It's like, because it's 1% of the population. It's like, here, it's, it's. 2.4% of the population, but whenever you see something happening where you're like, wait a minute, that might not be good for us. There's a couple of them right there, like leading it or thought leading it or financing it. And it's like, well, what the is going on here?

I mean, when it comes to that question in Canada, at least, most of that came through labor organizations and civil rights organizations, which were almost exclusively fronts for communist agitation. And Canada had a history of dealing with this, especially in Quebec. There was a premier at Duplice who passed something called the Padlock Law, and I think 1927. And that basically said that if you were operating any kind of communist organization out of a building, then that building was liable to get taken over by the government. You would be locked out of your building if you were using it for communist stuff. And so again, the labor organizations, left-wing political parties such as the CCF and then labor, literally, sorry, later the labor progressive party, these are all places where

Jewish people would agitate from. And specifically what they were agitating for was political rights for communists, but then after that kind of died down, they started working on egalitarian rights. And in the 40s, the Canadian Jewish Congress was a famous ally of the interned Japanese people. So they also, as they do elsewhere, allied with other disaffected, quote-unquote, marginalized groups to form power blocks and then agitate against the government. And especially in the wake of World War II, when people were, it was not in vogue anymore to be anti-Semitic. That was a good way for them to start really taking over things. I mean, yeah, sorry, I can stop it there. I've got to. I was going to say it's the exact same tactics you would see in America and elsewhere where they're agitating with the exact same post-war consensus narrative that you must be anti-racist and anti-fascist. Let us be in charge of this thing. You don't want to be like the Nazis, do you? And so open the floodgates. Yeah.

I mean, when you look at the numbers at the end of World War II, Canada's population was 12 million. 12 million people. And they're already, they're agitating. When did, was Canada under the crown already at that time in 1945? I mean, we had Confederation in 1867. technically the British crown still had their fingers in things until 1982 when the Constitution Act was amended so that Canada could change its own constitution. I mean, we've always had a, we still have a governor general, which is someone who's appointed by Britain and they have to

give a sense to all of our legislation stuff. I'm not sure. Can you, can you be more specific with the question? I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Because they do is. We're still technically under the crown in a lot of ways, but maybe not as directly back then. Well, I mean, I was just thinking because in 19, at the end of the war, when you look at like mass immigration into what they call the wind, the windrush generation into England, they brought the, they started bringing the boats to start bringing the Jamaicans in. I mean, that was them. That was that certain group who was responsible for that. And I was just wondering because Canada, you know, is obviously, you know, still has influence from Britain. I was wondering if that was the same thing.

It was just like, well, if we're doing it here, we're going to do it in all of our provinces, all of our territories and our, yeah, as well. That's a great question. Okay, so I can kind of answer your question, but I can also really answer your question, maybe just in a little bit of a different way than you were thinking.

So the Commonwealth idea is a big part of the 1962 order and council passed by the Defein-Baker government under Minister Ellen Fairclough and her, deputy George Davidson, which eliminated almost all racial restrictions from third world immigration. And that was directly influenced by the Commonwealth because Defenbaker, who's a conservative, was obsessed with the Commonwealth. And we have a couple of clips in the documentary where he discusses the Commonwealth and saying, you know, we have different religions, we have different races, we have different creeds, but we're all the same people. And that was the impetus to start

bringing in, yes, Jamaicans, Indians, especially in the 1960s. And Diefenbaker is obsessed not only with the Commonwealth, but also with anti-racism. And that was motivated by some exclusions that he felt as a child because he was German and he saw Ukrainians face similar difficulties in the prairie provinces in which he grew up because of the internment of those folks in World War I. So again, you had this conservative Commonwealth guy who had a chip on his shoulder, older because of some experiences he had as a child. And he said, okay, we have to eliminate race from the census.

He didn't pass that, but he said that he would have liked to have done that. We need to open up the floodgates. And I'm going to use the Commonwealth and our British history as the reason that we have to do this. So that was in a way central to his ideology. I don't know if that kind of answers your question. No, yeah, it just seems like it's whenever you look at any period since World War II, any area where mass immigration has affected the effect of the culture and it really started like a slide down in the homogeneity or, you know, how coherence a culture can be. It seems like there's always one one group of people where, you know, if it is like an organization, the representative of it is from one group of people.

So I mean, it just, it's, I catch crap for this all the time, but how can you just not help but notice that? Yeah. This small group, you know? And they do it, like I said, the same way every single time because you don't need a central committee around the globe to do this. All you need to do. And Jean described it very well there, which is that first they, you have this idea of immigration. People don't like immigration, but they kind of have this implicit belief that they don't want certain people because you're dealing with Europeans here, especially Anglo-stock,

and they're not outrageous about it. It takes them a lot to state that they just hate a specific type of people. They would rather not have to deal with that, let it be implied. But they first attacked that prejudice by saying, well, why not this type of immigration? You're like immigration, don't you. You don't hate everyone who's not you. And you're like, oh, no, like it's the culture of critique that we talk about. You can needle these sorts of things into reality.

So it doesn't need to be a sweeping thing. It's like, well, you like this, that you must like this. Otherwise, you're a hypocrite. You don't want to be a hypocrite to you. And you say, okay, I guess, but within reason. And that's a fascinating word. If you've ever, and no one watching this has probably done this, but we did this on our show a while ago,

going through the Canadian Constitution and going through the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is nothing like the Bill of Rights for nothing like the Constitution, which is very narrow and very explicitly clear. And that's better. Once you have these very legalistic, labyrinthian constitutions, you can weasel your way to anything. So you see the word reasonable pop up a lot. Like you have certain rights within reason.

And of course, that what is within reason, that's left up the judges. That's left up to politicians. That's very few hard. I don't think there's a single right we have in Canada. That's not open to some kind of smudgy interpretation at the time if they just deem that you don't like it. So, yeah, oh, yeah, we like immigration within reason. And what within reason means changes over time to now just means everyone. It's very easy to just wedge that wide open.

And like we had said, it happened in a very short window of time, unless you're very, very explicit about, no, we don't want this group for this reason. But like we'd said, there's this one group, you know, Jewish groups, NGOs that are. involved at every level, also within the Communist Party. But then there's just the liberal status quo that does not have the tools to repel that sort of inquiry. And that's really what's happened around the world. Liberalism does not have the toolbox to actually answer this question. So it always says, okay, I guess, why not?

Can't be a hypocrite. And now you have infinity Somalis. That sounds woke right to me. Can I just say that? woke right to me. Sorry, I apologize. It's okay. Yeah, woke right.

Yeah, that sounds woke right. Go ahead, John. I was just going to say, like, with the Jewish connection, you had said, rightly, Pete, that we have less than 1% of a Jewish population in Canada. But the thing is, they might not have the out-and-out power in terms of control, the media and the banks and other things that they do in the States. But you have to understand that any American power is projected onto Canada in terms of multinationals or groups like Vanguard and Black Rock holding, you know, the largest amount of

mutual funds than our big five Canadian banks. So it's not like necessarily Jews here, but it's a lot of American Jews that holds sway in Canada. And another thing that Jewish groups are good at doing is influencing the right people. So I spoke about Defe and Baker. One of Defebain Baker's big things was an adverse reaction he had to the Gezenko affair, which was some people say the outset of the Cold War, where it was a big spiring. was discovered because of a Soviet defector Igor Gazenko. And of the 17 people that were ultimately rounded up, six of them were Jewish and two of them were married to Jews.

And one of the people was married to Jews. His name was Raymond, I think Boyer, he was a Quebec Gua guy. And he like attended synagogue. He gave up his, well, he renounced his Catholic heritage and stuff. And when those Jewish people were prosecuted, Defebunbaker himself saw it as an egregious amount of government overstepping into the personal rights of people. So there's that. I think more significantly also, we've done some research into Pierre Trudeau. And Pierre Trudeau is seen as like our nation's modern father. He single-handedly instituted the policy of multiculturalism.

He's seen as like RJFK, isn't he? Yeah, that's right. I think that that's a fair analogy. And, you know, he grew up as a Quebec proclamation. He attended anti-Semitic rallies. He wrote a play called Liddub in high school, which was making fun of Quebec people who decided to buy from. Jewish merchants as opposed to Francophones. But he ended up going to Harvard in 46, 47. He then, sorry, and then in Harvard, he was taught by mostly Jewish professors. He became quite enamored with the book Leviathan, I think, is what it's called,

which is about the Nazi regime and how bad it was. It was one of the early books of that nature. And then he went to Paris, where he became part of a group of, of psychoanalysis, so the whole Freudian thing. And then he finished his post-secondary education under the tutelage of one Jewish Stalinist Harold Lasky at the London School of Economics. So again, this was a very prominent elite gentleman who had his views totally flipped around at the tail end of his youth because of various Jewish intellectuals.

And he continued to name Harold Lasky as one of his lasting influences even into the 70s and 80s. So it's not something that left him, you know. Yeah, and also another thing is if you look at the story of multiculturalism, you'll read these sources where Jewish groups pride themselves on being the vanguard of this thing. They will credit themselves, being like, we were the ones who pushed multiculturalism. So, you know, you can be afraid of being deemed anti-Semitic for saying this, but I'm like, I'm just quoting Jews. I'm just talking, I'm taking them at their word. They seem to think they were instrumental in this.

Yeah, that's one of the things is you're, Once you realize that that's happening, you're only allowed to celebrate it, not criticize it. Yeah, I always said that my favorite, and we've gotten, you know, our YouTube channel bans like twice, I think three times in the past for doing this. But I always would jokingly say that most of the books on this question that I cite are written by Jews. There's this amazing video that I did with of the Prudentialist, a friend of mine who's on this book title about what went wrong. It was written by a Jewish man. I think it was a rabbi who wrote it, but it was about the breakdown of the Jewish Black Alliance in America.

It's this huge historical tone that goes right from the end of slavery up until, I think, like the 70s. And he's just describing that basically the story is that blacks never liked Jews, but Jews were always exploiting blacks for their own political ends. Or this other great book called Jewish Power by J.J. Goldberg, posibly reviewed by the former prime minister of Israel. bestseller, mainstream book. And it says basically everything you would find

in anything from Kevin McDonald's culture of critique, any of that stuff. Same thing. Basically, admitted everything you've heard about all these Jewish NGOs. He says, yep, we have like over 300. And the only difference is, and this is what they'll say in Canada, is that we did it because

when Europeans are in charge, Jews suffer. So you deserve. It's, you know, we have to control the media. We have to control politics. Otherwise, you would kill us. And so it's justified. That's from the books.

I'm like, okay, my, do I get in trouble for quoting this book? Kind of, you know, it hasn't stopped them from fucking banning us so many times. Yeah. I'm, it's, you can't solve a problem unless you can figure out who's doing it. Yeah. And you have to be able to say who. who's doing it. Yeah.

You know, if it's a Chinese, you're allowed to say, oh, it's a Chinese. And then you're allowed to be like, okay, and it's this Chinese individual. Hey, this person was a chauffeur for one of our senators here, and they're Chinese,

and that's their name. But you're not because of, you know, something that happened before any of us were born, where apparently were not allowed to call anyone out by name from that truck. because, you know, then all of a sudden, you know, six million of them are in peril. Yeah. And one thing that we tried to, I know, Jean has done this throughout this conversation,

it's say that what we're sitting at a car crash intersection of many different problems. And in our space, especially, we always debate over what the principal problem is. Like, oh, it's Jews causing this. Oh, it's not Jews. It's actually liberalism as an ideology. Oh, no, it's not that. It's really the enlightenment. Oh, it's really.

atheism. Oh, it's really women. And we'd say, well, actually, it's all those things at once and they play off of each other. And each one of these needs to be identified and addressed as its own thing. But we kind of get wrapped up in this sort of Cartesian framework where everything flows from one. And you could say this group is involved in a lot of this, which is true. But then it did explain, like I said, it presented questions to the liberal order that liberalism could not answer, okay, so we must address that inherent flaw in liberalism, perhaps. And then we must address, you know, what is a Canadian identity? Because one problem they were able to exploit was that is there any sort of internal consistency with Canadian identity? You know, one of the things that

separates Canada from the U.S., you said, I think there is a permanent bifurcation between Anglo and Franco, Anglophone, Francophone Canada. And you're never going to resolve that. that and it is what it is and there's no melting button. So you're always going to have these, this collection of identities. If you look at the red ensign symbols of the shield of the red ensign, it's several identities bounce in one sort of commonwealth. It's like, okay, but what can we do with that? What is a Canadian identity? Because if you don't have an answer for that, then multiculturalism is easy to blossom in that total void, which is what happens. So it's like we have to address all of these things at once. And then the fact that, you know, women seem to be on the side. So what do we do about

them? You know, we're not going to get into all these problems today. But the one thing we try and address is, you know, there's exploitations from many different inputs right now. And as John correctly said, we have, you know, the funny thing about the Canadian anti-hate network, that's our version of, you know, like the Antifa group. That's what's what's the SPLC? So our is called the anti-can anti- they're the ones who direct anti-fund to get people fired. It's really just two people in the room. However, they modeled themselves after, you know, the American Jewish Congress, after the SPLC. They said, oh, we'll start that here.

So one of the issues of Canada is always just taking these like echoes from America and doing our version of that here and having American money funneling, not to blame Americans, but to blame these groups internationally with setting outposts up in Canada. I mean, Kalman Koplanski was one of the most famous Jewish operatives when it came to this stuff. He operated under the Jewish labor committee, which was a prominent labor union. But he put goys in places of note so that he could kind of hide what he was doing because, you know, because of anti-Semitism. He didn't want to do it himself because then, you know, there would have been an anti-Semitic backlash. But he was funded. His JLC group was funded by the American JLC out of New York. And that's where his subordinates were trained, you know, just to give an example of that.

American thing. Interesting. Let's talk about this. I was talking to someone recently from Canada, and they were saying that like a city like Brampton, which is, would you consider that a suburb of Toronto?

I would. Every time I've gone there, it's like Mississauga, I think, of suburbs. John, have you been there? I guess it is its own city, though, right? I'm from out west. I've never been there. So, like, the population

supposed to be like 750,000 or something like that. And, you know, he told me he's like 20 years ago, it was 95% white. He goes, and now the population is more than 50%, like well over 50% Indian. That's true. And like Brampton is right beside Mississauga as well. Mississauga for many, many years, has been mostly Muslim and Arab. So that whole section over a very short amount of time flipped to be. Brown. If you grew up there, how fast? Yeah, how fast? So that's what I want to talk about. How fast is something like that happened?

Using Brampton and Mississauga as just personal anecdotes, like I think it was within one generation at the very least, maybe even shorter, maybe within 10 years. But it happened. Like I remember in my youth, Mississauga just being like, Mississippi is like a suburb of Toronto. They're both outside of, they're part of what's called the GTA, Great Toronto area. So people would just live in Mississauga and then commute in. to downtown Toronto. So it was just, you know, a suburb. And then that just became filled with brown immigrants. And it happened very fast to the point we didn't even know how it was happening. How are these things being funded? And the spigots are being controlled in India. They're being controlled also by academia as well, bringing in these students. But yeah, Brampton in short order became dominated by Indians to the point where, you know, you probably read the story where they are erected something was like a 30 foot statue.

Hanuman. Yes, that's right. One of their, like it sounds racist when I say, but it's a monkey god. It's a half naked monkey man towering over it. And then, you know, as a self-respecting white man, you behold that and say, you're not serious, right? You don't believe this. This is just goofy shit, right?

But they get, it's important. Apparently it's, and it's certainly one of many that are being planned. And of course, that was erected as a show of force in that area to say, we own this city, the city of Brampton. I can tell you how it happened too. I like the Brampton thing. There's something called the Brampton loan or the Brampton mortgage. That's what it's known as colloquially. CBC actually did a big expose of this in 2022.

Mortgage fraud is rampant in Indian places because you have Indian bankers, you have Indian real estate agents and other white collar guys who can. just fake employment records, bank statements, and T-Force to get people who could not otherwise qualify to qualify for mortgages. And then they'll just have eight or nine of them living in a house working at Tim Hortons. And I'm not, I'm not joking. Like I say, the CBCR National Broadcaster did a big expose of this thing in 2022. They went undercover in Brampton. And then every, they didn't mention it, of course, but every single person involved was Indian. And they had like, you know, the whole like undercover camera. They're like, we sent our operatives in. And they were Indian people and then they're like, here's what they found.

And there'll be like a guy like, you can qualify, even if you do not qualify, you can qualify, no problem, no problem. So, you know, again, not making it up. This is all of the shit that we covered in the documentary. Like, it's all from like pro immigration sources. It's not like conspiracy theory. And also the same thing happened. I spoke to an very interesting individual, the name of Gordon McGill.

He's a Canadian trucker. And the same thing, as with the real estate agents, happened with driving schools and trucking schools. It just seemed over the course of a couple of years, all of these independent outlets got set up with the express purpose of just hand-waving through specifically Indian drivers, not testing them correctly. And then that has resulted in, you know, if you've ever, you know, I know, John, you're not from here, but we have this main highway in Ontario called the 401. It connects all the major cities. And within the past couple of years, I've noticed that these transport trucks are just in the ditch on the side of the road, flipped over, burned to a

crisp. And you never saw that growing up because they just have these weaponized trucks driven by inept inbred madmen barreling down the road because this whole matrix of fraternal networks and dark money flowing from India has set it up here. And that's the stuff you don't really hear about until it gets really, really bad. So it becomes unignorable. And here it's unignorable in the view of just blown up trucks on the side of the road and the risk, the very real risk to families, especially during the winter seasons. But, you know, the expose on the real estate thing, yes, there's an expose from our state broadcaster, but then what is the next step?

Because they don't want you to connect the dots, but you have to connect the dots because no one else in the world has that accent. When it comes to the trucking thing, too, like truckers are approximately 17% of all federally regulated workers. That means workers that will work across provinces. And they account for about 50% of employment, like mistreatment claims and stuff. And that's because a lot of these guys are just indentured servants, right? I'm not saying, like, I have sympathy for them, but they are basically slaves to other more wealthy Indians who bring them over here. And that's why people say, oh, just pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.

Like these people aren't even getting paid sometimes. So like how are you supposed to compete with that? And there's a ready made argument for you. You can take the pro Indian side if you want, say we want to send them back for them. We don't want slaves. That's kind of what was going on in America too with H-1B visa things. Like these people, you want a slave class. You want a whole cast of serfs to serve you.

And you know what? We care too much about Indians to allow this. You can do that. And then let your fucking wife or grays. girlfriend make that argument for the rest of us. We're just like, I just, I don't care. I just, I don't want this. I want you gone.

And there's more people now than ever before making that very, very simple argument, which is an argument that would have been familiar to the generations of people from this little documentary made, which is that, look, I'm a, I'm a citizen. I'm a citizen. Am I allowed to just say I don't want it and I don't need to justify it? I'm a Canadian citizen. I shouldn't need to justify it.

You're asking me if I want this. I say no. Case close. You have to do what I say. And then by degrees we learn what I say doesn't matter. And also you learn quickly that whatever justification you can come up with also doesn't matter. There's no way to win this argument.

There's no way to reason your way with someone who wants to do this already for their own, you know, selfish reasons. Well, let's, we only have about five, six minutes left. Let's end on this. Here in the United States, we have Miami is. huge Cuban community. You have Spanish communities out west. You know, some, there are little pockets everywhere.

You know, when it comes down to it, these are people from our hemisphere. A lot of them are not raised in the greatest Christianity, but they're raised in Christianity. You're dealing with people who are coming from a drastically, drastically different culture. I'm talking about like, you know, if you, I know that there is a lot of people who just want to be complete purists, but if you were to say, would you rather live next to Mexicans or would you rather live next to Indians? I think most people here would be like, well, I think we'd rather, we'd stick with the, we'd stick with the Mexicans. Well, also, if you're on the distant right or on the maybe far right at all, you're probably used to Hispanics being some of the loudest voices in this sector. So you're already, you're already on that side versus the new crop of Indians who came in advocating for our points, which is like, there's something off about like, I don't believe them when they say they're on our side. This sounds. Yeah. Not even the cultural. I mean, and the cultural issue in a place like Brampton and Missa Caga has to be just awful. But I mean, you've had assassinations that were like, weren't they?

sanctioned by like the Indian government. Yeah. And that's again, jarring to people who didn't think that was possible. Like, and you know, you'll find this interesting. I don't know if you've read this book before,

Camp of the Saints by Jean R. R. I read it on my show. I read, I've read the whole book on my show. I just covered it, uh, with a good friend of mine,

T.R. Hudson on a show Canon Fodder. We both read it recently. Everyone else has read it. We just got to it recently. And I think it's a very, chilling but illuminating look at this specific problem because the actors in that are mainly from India, from the Ganges.

And it really spells out that these people are from a world apart from you. And you make a grave error in thinking that, you know, you don't even necessarily need to believe they're subhuman. We don't need to traffic in that terminology if we don't want to. But you can just say they're from another fucking dimension than you. Like they don't see, you can shake their hand and say. you both like rice and things, but the way they engage with everything from time to business to everything else is different.

And you realize that the pro-immigration position has been pushed up by this false narrative that, oh, they're just like us. They believe the same things. They just want to work hard. Well, it's like they don't even see working hard the same way you do. They see cheating as working hard. They believe if you work hard,

you're a sucker. They believe cheating and grift is the way to do it. So, you know, once you see stories like that about the assassination, like, oh, what Indians? Why would they do that? They're so passive. They're so docile. You'll hear them say that, too. And if you ever dealt with them, no, you need to understand they're not.

They're running game on you. And you were, and as, you know, if you ever worked with Indians, I've seen. It's their culture. It's their culture. It's who they are. Basically, white men fall victim to Indians because I made a joke that they make white, men feel like plantation owners. You get this sort of like sniveling,

pathetic white, you know, Indian employees will be the ones who say, you guys aren't nice enough to the boss. You should respect the boss more. And you say, yeah, yeah,

they should. These guys, they're ass sniffers. And so a lot of older white men, JetX, white men too, they really feel like, yeah,

yeah, these people finally treat me the way I deserve to be treated. You saw that with the Indian political class, too. Like, but you get the sense that this is just a game they're running. don't and if you pay close attention, something's off, but it's hard to articulate.

And I had said before, like a couple years ago, I said, you know, the white people here are not, we don't have the, the firmware upgrade to deal with the Indian threat. We just started to understand Islam. A lot of us, regular people kind of get Islam. They get the Arab thing, the Muslim thing. They get the black thing. They get the Jewish thing. But it's like, you're not prepared for Indians.

They got a different strategy. Can we touch on the Civil War thing that's going on in Canada with the Indians? And actually, sorry, John, I actually do need to go right now. Can I just leave, Jean? Can you answer that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead. Sorry, but all the listeners are sorry, I just had a doctor's appointment that came up really close to the show. And so I got to be out the door right now.

I just want to say thank you so much, Pete, for allowing me on. Thank you, Jean, for joining us. And it's amazing show. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you. All right, take care of yourself, Tom. All right. Yeah, so just really briefly to wrap up.

So the whole Indian assassination thing is part of a larger problem where there's like a civil war between Sikhs and Hindus. So the majority of Indians in Canada historically and up to the present day have been Sikhs. And they want like a separate homeland that they call Kalistan in northern India. And the Indian government, which is dominated by Hindus, have like an outstanding warrants on a lot of these guys. they were responsible for the Air India bombing in 1993. And so what the Indian government did is they assassinated a Calistan guy. And the right wing in Canada really hates the Calistanis because they're incredibly disruptive. And so they tend to support the Indian government, whereas the left wing tend to support the

Calistanis because they see them as freedom fighters. So you have white people basically being involved in a proxy war depending on their side of the political aisle in Canada instead of just standing up for their own rights as white people and saying, why the fuck are we having any of this in our country? So that's a summation of the Indian problem with regards to the assassination. Wow. Yeah. How does it get to that?

You know, you have enough problems with your own people. You have your own history. You have your own economy. And then you, what you import a friggin civil war from halfway around the world. And not only is it a civil war from half way around the world. halfway around the world. They're from a culture that is so alien to us that we, I had a, I had an Indian gentleman on my show not too long ago, his name, his name is Jeanne Bandari. And he's been warning about this. He's been warning about Indian immigration into the west for a long,

you know, for a long time. And what he said was, he goes, when you take into consideration like America, and I had him when the whole H-1B thing was going, on on Twitter. He said, when you take into consideration, you have to think about the fact that you have people, the people you have there are probably the best, the quote unquote best of India. And he said, you haven't even met the average Indian yet. And that's when you realize you're like, holy fuck. But then also it's like, I mean, you have so many in Canada. I'm wondering if you, a lot of them are the average Indian and you already have that there. Um, increasingly we're finding that, you know, regardless of what their quality as people are, um, they're coming here under false pretenses. So like, for example, the international student thing, we have 800,000 international students here. And our border services agency and our RCMP, um, federal police have been finding a lot of guys who are coming here with fake letters that have ties to gang activities. Um, they're also finding that approximately 16% of those 8% of those.m.

800,000 have no record of enrolling in a Canadian institution. So I think that the fact that the fraud is so rampant probably speaks to the type of people that we're getting, you know. In terms of my encounters on the street, it's hard to say, you know, whether it's getting worse. I mean, there's certainly a lot more Indians, whether the ones that I talked with before, you know, in my youth were better or worse. I'm not sure about that. That's an interesting question. Yeah. I also heard something recently that the, in India you have a lot of diploma mills, and they were figuring out that a lot of the Indians

that came there and became doctors weren't even qualified. Weren't even doctors. We have our own diploma mills here. So, you know, Alberta is seen as the most conservative reactionary province here, you know, the most based province, for lack of a better word. And even in that province, their premier, Daniel Smith, couple years ago was like the main problem we have is that we have too many academic institutions that are being guarded about their standards we need to have competing institutions so of course

that was just our time to ring the bell you know time for more Indian people to come here and get their uh get their visas and uh get their permanent status so it's like we it's we have like I say we have our diploma mills here when it comes to doctors yeah I mean um you know we have a shortage of doctors here. There's approximately 1,000 Canadian-born doctors who studied at foreign institutions because they're not enough spots to train doctors here in Canada. And those are people who can't get accredited. And a lot of left-wing people at speech say, well, they were trained at foreign institutions. Their standards are not as high as Canadian institutions. And I'm like, well, by the same token, then why are you telling me that all the immigrants that are

coming here are doctors? They're trained at the same institutions that you don't like Canadians going to. So there's a very, very... funny point to me made there. So with the recent, with everything that happened with Trudeau recently, do you see that the immigration issue having a big, big influence on that? Well, you know, it's funny because Trudeau's government actually stepped back their immigration policies and they announced a reduction in international students and temporary foreign workers going into the next year. Of course, it probably won't be the government next year because we'll probably have an election. The conservatives will undoubtedly get a majority. And so they've been criticized by the conservatives for

talking about a reduction in immigration. So yes, as Dimes alluded to earlier, this should be an immigration campaign. But funnily enough, the administration that got us into this mess is the one who is fighting back the hardest on immigration. And our conservatives are actually worse on immigration. So it really is a terrible place to be. I mean, the conservative leader, Pierre Paulia, said that he wants to have direct flights to Ottawa from Amritsar. And Amritsar is one of the major cities in the Punjab region of India. It's a Sikh stronghold. And again, the majority of Indians that come here are Sikhs. So I mean, this is the type of rhetoric. I mean, the Trudeau government deported international students who were here under false

pretenses, you know, fake letters or they weren't they weren't in school or whatever. And Paul-Lev gave a speech denouncing that and said, we should be deporting these people. So we do have an upstart political party called the People's Party of Canada, which is run by our former defense minister under the Conservative Harper government. His name is Maxim Bernier. And he's announced that he wants a complete moratorium on immigration. So his rhetoric is actually much stronger than even Trump's rhetoric. But the funny thing about that political party is now, if you look at the candidates, it's a ton of Indians and a ton of black people. And so, you know, reactionaries in Canada have rightly said, okay, so we're doing SIFNAT stuff,

but we're not. Like, what are you doing here, bro? So now there's a big fight between the true nationalist, the self-described true nationalist, true reactionaries in Canada. And then the PPC members themselves are like, no, it's okay, bro. This guy's based, bro. He can't speak English, but he's totally based if you talk to him. So it's a complete mess.

Hey, but at least Pollyev, like, disrespected a journalist who's eating an apple and everything. That was, and you know what? He's such a dweeb. And I've always said this, especially now that Trudeau's got divorced dad energy and he is on his way out. Trudeau's done a couple of charity boxing matches. He beat up a conservative senator named Patrick Brzeau in the mid-Ots. And I was like, damn, you should just box Pahliav because he's been talking all this shit. He's a dweeb.

He's a nerd. He's a lot smaller than you. You're like, just come on, Justin. we know you've got a six-pack still, bro. Just like go after him. I mean, obviously, I mean, that's not going to happen, but it would be mad funny because, like, this, yeah, Paulios is like, you know, he's got all these stupid nicknames for Trudeau and for the other opposition leaders. He's a real snarky guy. And it would just be funny to see him, you know, get his clock cleaned.

But I digress. Pahliav just reminds me of like these classical liberals that we have here, like the James Lindsay types. It's like, you know, we want liberty, but it's liberty for everyone. because, you know, you can import anyone and anyone can become a Canadian or anyone can become an American. It's like, yeah, it doesn't work that way. You know, when my family came here, they had to, like, completely, like, openly renounce where they came from. You know, I'm no longer a subject of there. I'm here, and for better or worse, and I'm not sending money home.

I'm not, no, this is where I am. This is where I stand, you know, and I'm going to serve and do whatever I want. do whatever the country asked me to do and the whole classical liberal type that whole oh you just you know because because they take an oath

and it's like okay yeah this isn't I'm sorry these aren't these aren't Europeans I think that you know Canada is almost in a better place in the sense that we do have multiculturalism

and what I mean by that is the multiculturalism thing was an artificial policy put in place October 8th, 1971 by Pierre Trudeau, and he fundamentally denounced the bicultural, that is the francophone-anglephone split in Canada in favor of multiculturalism. And since then, especially in line with all these government programs, or it's like you have to have a quote of, you know, non-whites or women are indigenous people. And if you're indigenous or black, you're going to get a lighter sentence. Like all these incentives, along with multiculturalism, draw people who are not white to focus on the fact that they're not white and keep their identity

in mind and not assimilate. Because we don't have that melting pot, I think the only people who assimilate naturally to the Canadian identity is white people because they don't really have a reason not to. And that's just what, you know, that's ethnogenesis. That just happens naturally, whereas all these other people are incentivized to remain on the outside. So it's almost like even though we have the multiculturalism, the people who are the true Canadians are generally white people because other people don't assimilate. And so it's kind of easier to tell people of part, even if they've been here for several generations.

It's just something that we were talking about Dimes and I on Voices show. Cool. All right, well, I'm going to get out of here. Thanks for, thanks for coming on and talking about this. Because, yeah, I mean, like I said, we just, yesterday was inauguration day here. And what most people who voted for the guy down here are worried about is immigration. and that's a big topic, but you guys have been dealing with it up there.

And I mean, I don't know. I don't know who has it worse off at this point. Yeah, it's a different problem. Great to see you. I'll sign off, but before I do, when can we expect the next 200 years together segment? Because I've been following those, and that's pretty cool. That'll be tomorrow at 11 a.m. 11 a.m. Central, 12 noon.

And yeah, we're doing two of those a week. So Wednesdays, I'm releasing them Wednesday at 11 a.m. and Saturday at 11 a.m. As long as we don't, myself or Dr. Johnson, don't have something that takes us away from our ability to do it. So I do appreciate that. Thank you. That's going to be a huge project.

But I think it's going to be one that people are going to be referencing for, you know, decades. I'm stoked on it. Okay, man, well, thanks so much. I'll see you later. All right, thanks, John. Bye-bye.