The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1165: Reality Isn't What You Think It Is /w Stormy Waters - Part 2

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

2 Hours and 22 MinutesPG-13Stormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm.Pete and Stormy continue a series exploring a topic that has demanded debate throughout history: the material v...s the metaphysical/religious.Links and Research Mentioned (For the previous episode) Stormy's Twitter AccountPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:32 Doing well. Doing well. Happy to be back. Yeah. I think we had some positive reactions from our first. one which was very encouraging. Yeah, I mean, there were some people who were sniping, but I mean, you can't please all the faggots all the time, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:49 No, too many faggots. Yeah. So, well, what were we talking about right before we started? We were talking about evil, how evil presents itself. Yeah. So, like, at the core of evil, if you're saying you can't attack God, so you're, you're, you have to attack creation. What is creation?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Right. His logos or reality. All right. You basically have to attack nature. Right. I guess you could say attack truth. But really truth is difficult to attack with, without, you know, jump off points. So you're going to, evil is going to have to function off of natural truths and then invert those truths.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Right. Inverting is perverting, really. So if you have to function, right, you basically have to lie. You can, at the core of any of the ways that we see it manifesting in society, at its base layer is a lie. It could be a little lie or it could be a big lie. It doesn't matter. But because it's a lie, it metastasizes very fast. that old saying that a lie will make it around the world before the truth gets its pants on and there's a lot of truth to that because because a lie is is fit for purpose where reality is not
Starting point is 00:05:25 reality's purpose is to like nature's purpose is to exist right it's reality's reality's purpose is to be a grounding stone. Like truth is meant to be a grounding stone. A lie is meant to be chaos. And truth is stuck in one place. Chaos goes everywhere. Yeah. But I mean like, oh, when you, when someone lies, they usually have an objective, right?
Starting point is 00:05:59 So therefore, the lie is tailor fit. a particular facet of the agenda. And, I mean, this is also why God warns us so much about pride, because it's not his least favorite sin. It's not why he's warning us. He says very clearly that I don't make these laws for my benefit. They're for yours. So it's not like us, you know, the Ten Commandments or,
Starting point is 00:06:34 I mean, I hate to break it down as kind of obtusely as that, but none of those things on that list, including the worshipping of other gods, is for God's benefit. Right? They're for ours. But with lies, they spread rapidly because they're fit for purpose, right? As in like they have an agenda. and they kind of fit like a lock-in key inside somebody's head. Like if I want to take something from you or I want to convince you to hurt yourself or whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:21 no matter what it is, it's going to be against nature. It's going to be against your nature or, you know, truth. The terms are almost interchangeable, really. So I'm going to tailor it for my audience, which means it's going to spread rapidly because it's made just for them. But when something spreads rapidly, inherently it undergoes problems of scale. Right. So if a lie spreads very, very fast, right, you would think that that would be good for the lies sake anyways. Look at how many people it's, let's say, infecting for lack of a better term.
Starting point is 00:08:06 term. But what is actually happening is it's increasing exponentially the amount of areas that it needs to defend. The farther and farther a lie spreads, the more and more area it has to defend against. So it actually becomes weaker at scale. And it knows this, right? Inherently the liar knows that he is lying, even though everybody else doesn't. There's a built-in pair. paranoia to a lie. There's an inborn paranoia to evil. It's very feminine in its nature. I don't mean that negatively.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You know, for ladies, I don't mean it like that. I mean it overreacts. It is the same way a guilty person. and always goes over the top in their defense, like before you even ask, right? So not only does it need to defend itself, even when it might necessarily be strategically disadvantageous to do so. But really, it can't defend itself. So what it seeks to do is tie itself into everything else.
Starting point is 00:09:34 it thinks it's building up support, but it's actually not. Right. So like the same lie will weave itself through institutions. Right. It'll weave itself through the church. It'll weave itself into or try and weave itself into your day-to-day life. It thinks that the more act, the more it can anchor itself to the safer it is. But it's exactly the opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Right? Because if you tie yourself to everything, a loss in any form, front is a loss on all fronts. So as a lie spreads, as evil spreads, it gets weaker at scale. It doesn't get weaker. It gets more vulnerable at scale. Right. So that means you don't really have to tell the truth in all places.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You only need to tell the truth in one place. And it's undone in all places. A loss in the church is a loss in the political. A loss in the political is a loss in the church, is a loss in academia, is a loss in your workplace. Because it has to spread everywhere, it is weak everywhere. Which is why it's always undone by the most unlikely of servants, the most simple of people. Well What we're talking
Starting point is 00:11:12 What we're talking about is if if a lie If a lie can spread around the world and You know It spreads out really fast What you do to combat that is you have to make the world smaller And that's what the internet And that's what social media is done Because they just can't lie anymore
Starting point is 00:11:32 As soon as they lie To defend Yeah As soon as they lie somebody's all over it. Somebody's investigating it. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive.
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Starting point is 00:12:37 Joseph Gerbels Gerbils knows that he never told a lie everything he said was true it was just he chose exactly what he needed to say
Starting point is 00:12:52 when the book Germany Must Parish came out I mean I think he was the one who said this is this is the greatest gift they could give us we don't even need to we don't need to construct anything all we need to do is show it to show it to the german people and yeah i mean and now when you have um when they lie about something um i forget what was i'm trying to think of one but they're numerous in the last especially in the last i would say
Starting point is 00:13:25 10 years where they came out with a lie and immediately the autists just jumped right on it it was boom, it was just, the lie was destroyed, was uncovered within a matter of hours in most cases. Yeah, that really is reminiscent of how 2024 played out. Like for the very first time, it actually seemed like they were on the back foot. But I, I, I don't think people have an understanding of like kind of how this, what they're up against, I guess, and what tools they have at their disposal. There is a documentary that was made in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I have to track it down for how often I use it as a reference point. But it really shook me. It's one of those images that stays with you for forever that you wish you could unsee. And it's BBC, which is funny considering, you know, knowing that the British intelligence had such a big role in the Iranian Revolution. It's kind of funny to see BBC on the ground shortly after the revolution. This is like five or eight years after.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And they're walking on the street and there's this woman, this old woman, who is just ecstatic, just happiest old lady in the world. And they ask the translator and the translator asked the old lady, Like, why are you so happy from? Because there was like a bunch of people coming down the street. Like, is this, are you guys coming from a celebration? And she goes, no, we're coming from hanging. My sons were distributing counter-revolutionary propaganda.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I turned them into the revolutionary guard and they were hung. And she's ecstatic. And by this point in time, two other old ladies. are next to her. And they're equally as ecstatic. I didn't realize it at first. And she is like jabbering on and the translators trying to keep up. And she's basically saying that the other two women had turned in their sons as well.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And they were also hanged. And at that point I kind of like stopped listening because that's when I noticed that I was basically watching the same facial expressions, in perfect, just synchronized perfectly, happening across all three women at the same time, like the same eyebrow raises, the same smiles, the same head turns, all at the exact same time.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It was like the non-vrons, verbal communication version of a choir. It was the same voice. And I rewound it and I put it on mute. And it's basically like I'm watching the same voice coming out of three different women simultaneously. And the only other time I saw that, again, was in a video that somebody had shared on X I think it was like 20, 22 or 22nd,
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Starting point is 00:19:11 And there are these, there's this one regular woman, and she's being screamed at by three, just, three, four grotesque monsters. And I saw it again. And I think I shared it with a couple people in group chats. So if you're listening and you remember, you know, I'm sorry I did that to you. I made you watch it. But you're basically watching the same voice be spoken through many mouths simultaneously. And I think that movies like The Exorcist.
Starting point is 00:19:51 and movies like poltergeist or whatever, do a great disservice to people trying to understand really how this shit works. Because I think we established in the last episode, I don't know if I touched on demons at all and how they operate, but they exist outside of time and space. So it is as easy for a demon to be in one place as it is for a demon to be in one place as it is for him to be in a hundred or a thousand or a million. If you're outside of time and space, future, past, present,
Starting point is 00:20:38 it's all just one mushy thing. And being here or there doesn't really matter to you at all. It's like I said, as easy to be in all of these places simultaneously. So we think of demonic possession as a one-to-one relationship, and that could not be further from the truth. It is the exact opposite of a one-to-one relationship. The same demon will possess hundreds of people, thousands of people simultaneously. And there's a funny thing about, I don't know anything about, um, I don't know anything about, um, about Warhammer 40K, except for, like, what I've overheard in group chats.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It missed me. I never got into it. But I had a couple of nuns over my house once. There was like a book signing nearby, and a bunch of guys were going. And they asked if I was going, and I was like, no, I didn't hear about it. And they were like, oh, well, it's neat. you, you should go. And so a bunch of them flew in. They were all in their hotel rooms. Like, you guys are being stupid. Just coming out. And then we'll all go over together.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So when everybody's in my living room, one of them started explaining to me how these trans people were basically like this monster in Warhammer 40K. And I asked him what he meant, and he said, you know, I can't remember what he said, Nergal was the character. And I remember saying like, excuse me, what did you just say? And he's like, oh, no, it's a character in 40K. And I was like, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It's not a character in 40K at all. And he's like, no, yes, it is. He's very adamant about it. I went into my library and grabbed a book off the shelf and came back and opened it up. And I was like, no, it's not. The name that you just said and what you are describing is a 6,000-year-old Samarian demon called Nergal, that is hermaphroditic and has a pension for castration. That's what you're describing to me.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And the room kind of went quiet. And I was like, all right, well, so either that is a coincidence, a crazy coincidence, or the guys at Warhammer, know a lot more about the stuff that I know about than they may have let on. So I had them all give me the lore. And one of them showed me, I'm going to use it as a jump-off point
Starting point is 00:24:05 because it, whether intentional or not, it does a great job of describing things that are otherwise very difficult to describe. One of them shared a YouTube video with me, And he tried to describe the warp. I guess there's this place called the warp. And as he was describing it to me, I was like, just stop right there. What you're basically describing to me is probably one of the best analogies I've ever heard for what it means when someone like me will say, as above, so below.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Right. And it's basically like, oh, well, you know, all of these good energies or these good feelings will be in, you know, go in the warp and, you know, after enough of them, they start to accumulate. And then that turns into a consciousness when it gets big, you know, and it just kind of pops into real life. I'm like, what you've just described is an igregor. That's exactly what an agriagor is. So Warhammer 40K, there's a lot of truth to it. And I think that's why people so instinctively go and pull from it, because it does fit our reality. more than I think any of them really know,
Starting point is 00:25:23 and I don't know much about the creators of it, but apparently they're well-versed and some of the very hard-to-find and very strange stuff that I am into. Because it's just... There's too many coincidences. So a lot of the ways that these things function are very similar, right?
Starting point is 00:25:47 as in like they don't, a good way of describing a demon or how evil works like that is to describe them more like armies because that's really what they are. Like very rarely will it just be a person. And they're not exactly stupid either. They don't see very good. they do smell really good, as in like they have a good sense of smell for some reason. But they don't see great. And they try and work smart and not hard.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So it's not a coincidence that all of the people in power are evil. If you're evil, if you are a demon, if you're Satan himself, you don't want to possess janitors, you don't care. Your goal is to destroy creation. So you can have a million janitors and not get yourself any further to that goal, but you get 20 politicians,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and now you're starting to get somewhere. Power is like, you know, demon bait. It really is. That would seem to lend itself to the theory that they're just basically empty vessels. And if you are in a position where you are really not supposed to hold any kind of ideology and you're just there for power, that pretty much opens yourself. up. This way I said, God does not warn us about pride the most because it's his least favorite sin.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He warns us about it the most because it's Satan's favorite sin. It's the easiest door to get into the house. It's practically unlocked. Because the second you start, let's say you just chalk up a couple victories, whatever they are, whatever you're doing, right? it won't be long before you think that you are doing them. And those are your victories and you're responsible for them. And that will make you think about the thoughts you have in a much different way.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Because all of a sudden, you know, you're the shit. Everything you think of is the greatest. Now you're paying a lot more attention to that little voice in your head, aren't you? And that's where he gets you every time. because not all those voices in your head are your own. You have no way of distinguishing. Pride is the easiest. It's the easiest way.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You will basically throw open your front door just being really into yourself or really high on a series of victories or your intellectual prowess in whatever it is. If there's one thing that I would urge people to police the moment of, and recognize when they're doing it is pride. Pride is the easiest.
Starting point is 00:30:02 All the others are situational, but it's pride that gets you. Because you can't distinguish what's you and what's not. So a lot of people, they find it very hard to believe that they're not just dealing with bad people or confused people, you know, people that don't understand the consequences of their actions. And this is a question I got from a specific person, last things, if you're listening. I told you I wouldn't forget.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But people have a hard time grappling with this because they see it as a whole bunch of discrete actors, making individual discrete decisions. Right? I believe, like, the source of the question was, in regards to, like, Jewish power. And how come each seemingly autonomous individual atomized unit seems to break whatever it is that he touches? And he was saying he's like,
Starting point is 00:31:48 there's no way that, you know, that can be like an organized thing. It just has to be like something in their nature that causes them to do this. And they're all just running on the same code. And all of these things are just disorganized, decentralized, decentralized, disaster. And the way I want to explain it is that even though you see a bunch of discrete actors on the game board, each being discreetly bad, you're going to come to a problem when you start seeing these meta-consequences occur. Right. Like there's no secret, and this is the problem a lot of people have with just this power structure in general. How does?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Is there a secret meeting of all the academicians in the United States where they all get together and decide to subvert nature in a specific way? We would hear about those meetings, for sure. Some would get out. And how come what they're doing just happens to line up with all the things the doctors are doing, getting kids to castrate themselves? Did all the psychologists and therapists get a meeting to? Do they coordinate with that other meeting of all the academics? Is there, you know, a quarterly journal that goes around to make sure everybody can stay on the same page?
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Starting point is 00:36:13 It's what you don't see that matters. What a much more cohesive way of looking at it, and frankly, a lot more logical, is that you're seeing a bunch of independent discrete actors. acting under the influence of a singular unified consciousness. That's what you're seeing. And this consciousness, by its very definition, is outside of space and time. And that gets you back to that, the past, the present, and the future,
Starting point is 00:37:04 is all just one mushy mess to him. So he already knows what the long-term ramifications of each one of his actions are because it's as easy to examine the past and the present as it is to see these things in the future, which is the only way you would be able to do such a thing. Because if you also notice that all of these in, unconnected independent, we'll call them bad things initiatives.
Starting point is 00:37:43 All seem to converge, right? Almost like they hit a critical mass to the point where by the time you realize that it's already too late. Because it is everywhere all at once. It is impossible for us to see things outside of a human being's time scale, the timescale of our life. And we can't imagine anybody else being able to either. Same reason it drives me nuts when people say like, oh, how come God lets bad things happen to good people? Well, to you, that may be how it looks, but you don't see the thousands of consequences that come from that.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And what those consequences look like, 100, 200 years in the future. You're only seeing the bad thing that happens in front of you now. And that's why a lot of the things... I mean, it's like the number one Reddit atheist argument. It's like, why does God make a school bus full of nuns or orphans, whatever, crash over the side of a bridge? right
Starting point is 00:39:13 it's their inability to see things outside of their own life or outside of the consequences that are directly you know what will we say all the time second and third order consequences now do second and third order consequences
Starting point is 00:39:29 throughout time right what's just a village God doesn't see us just a village right he already can see the cathedrals that are going to go there He already sees the city it's becoming, or going to become.
Starting point is 00:39:47 He sees the end. And so does Satan. And we need to understand that such a consciousness exists. And a lot of people have a hard time with that. Because just something that wants to destroy creation is hard for us to wrap our brains around. Right. Like, it would be like a bank robber that doesn't actually rob the bank. He just lights all the money in the safe on fire.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Right. To us, it's hard to understand, like, why would he be doing that? He's already done all the effort of doing a robbery. Why would he possibly just wreck everything? It doesn't make any sense. Why would you want to destroy the world? Like, you have to live here. Like, no, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And I've had a hard time explaining this to Zoomers, except for I came across a book and is like a kind of popular sci-fi book. It's called The Three Body Problem. And really the only useful tidbit I pulled out of it. I'm not a huge science fiction guy. Well, I am, but not that kind. is that there is this alien race on a planet several thousand light years away.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And it has recognized humanity and is mobilizing to destroy it. So what it does is it sends this quantum force, this invisible force, ahead of it instantaneously. Right. And what this does is it acts on everyone in the world subconsciously, right? Makes them unable to progress civilization. It makes them do extremely self-destructive behaviors, nihilistic behaviors. And it basically freezes humanity's progress during that period of time that that they are traversing the stars to come and destroy us. Because that's a long period of time, right? Like, you may be able to beat humanity up now,
Starting point is 00:42:37 but by the time you get here, you may have a fucking problem. So the way it goes about doing that is it acts on everybody invisibly, psychologically, mentally, and has humanity adopt, or think that they came up with whichever extremely self-destructive ideologies and behaviors that basically neuters the civilization's advancement. It begins to eat itself. And when I was describing that to someone,
Starting point is 00:43:19 at the end of it, I was like, now you understand how Satan works. You can't imagine, you know, a conscious entity destroying everything. because what would be left? Nothing. What did you win? What did you get? They have a hard time wrapping their brain around it.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Like, that's the point. There's nothing left for anyone. You took God's most prized possession and you smashed it. But when you frame it in the terms of an alien civilization, people are able to understand it. Because that's exactly what Satan does. That's exactly how he operates. It's exactly how demons work.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I think it's easier for people to believe that, oh, they all just go to the same schools. They all just go to the same synagogues. That's where they're getting this from. Logically, that makes no sense. You can see, yeah, you can look at homogenous societies to teach all the same thing that have the same curriculum and people believe different things. So how does that happen? How do you have a homogenous society that just all of a sudden one day decides that they're going to destroy it?
Starting point is 00:45:00 That a mass of people, that the people in power, they just one day all go, oh, I mean, a lot of it has to do with greed. When you, reading 200 years together with Dr. Johnson, you start to realize that, well, yeah, I mean, these are Jews who are doing this, who are collectively in many cases, especially the leadership, are targeting Christian groups,
Starting point is 00:45:38 and the indigenous groups to enslave them, whether it be with usury, whether it be with alcohol, whether it be with whatever it is. And you realize it's like, well, wait a minute, how they get there? How are they allowed to do? Who's allowing them to do this? And so, oh, they were invited in. You catch them in the corner of your eye, distinctive by design.
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Starting point is 00:47:29 to find out of the people to offer to Ait Pongue Pongue Pongue Pongue. And I think
Starting point is 00:47:39 that's what a lot of people don't understand is They think that, oh, this, you know, this just happens because these entities are so much stronger than us. No, they're invited in. They're invited in by greed, and they're invited in by something we already mentioned. Pride.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Mm-hmm. And people with pride. People with... So, okay. So there's a group of people who have members. of it who historically have subverted pretty much every culture they've gone into. How do they get there? How have they been able to, how have so many of them bought into the same, even if they're
Starting point is 00:48:35 not trying to all subvert the same exact way, they're all subverting. Not all of them, of course. but all of the subverters are subverting. The ones in the group are subverting. How does that happen? What do you, was evolution? That's what they're taught? No, I mean, Solzhenitsin clearly shows that the average Jew was being,
Starting point is 00:49:04 a poor Jew was being victimized just as much as a Christian was in many cases. in Russia, in Poland, in white Russia. Who were they being victimized by? Well, that's the question. That's the question. And that's when you have to, you have to at least consider when E. Michael Jones says
Starting point is 00:49:34 that this started at the foot of the cross. Yes. With a rejection of Logos, well, when you reject Logos, you open yourself up. you become an open wrestle because now you don't have the truth and anything
Starting point is 00:49:53 can come in that's what he didn't really tie together he came so close but for a spiritual guy I'm surprised he missed it because that's exactly the case if you have no anchor and really when I said like who specifically
Starting point is 00:50:13 is doing the subverting right, who is just, I think it was Israel Tov's book, History of the Jewish People, that's extremely sad, right? When you, when you read it, it kind of takes you aback by learning the things that they would do to their own people. And it wasn't just like, whoever had more power at the time or whatever that did it, it was strictly the priestly cast, right at that point in time, the Talmudic class, right?
Starting point is 00:50:59 The rabbinical class that did it. They effectively, I don't know how to, else to describe it, but they ruled these communities with a barbarism that we would find. I don't know, in some demon-possessed tribe in the middle of Africa. I mean, if you talk to any of the African Christians, they will tell you. I mean, D.E. tells a really good story about his conversation with African Christians, and they're very frank about it. There is a lot of demons in Africa.
Starting point is 00:51:41 You believe he says that they are like flies on horses. There's so many of them. And the type of barbarism that we would see in these tribes, we would see in the Stettles, the crime or the punishment for trying to read or learn another language was being boiled to death. Like this is what they were doing to their own people. And there is a video.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's on Twitter. I was trying to find it. I'll have to attach it in the show notes. But what it is is about eight minutes long. It's this rabbi explaining the special relationship that educated. theological Jews have with demons and how it's different than relationship than any person that's not Jewish has with them and how, you know, they give them special powers. And, you know, they can come into them at any time.
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's really kind of wild. I almost wish I was able to pull it up and I could let Pete play it because it's, It's worth listening to a little bit of it really is that good. Maybe you can throw it in there in the edits, maybe in the intro, whatever. But I don't have to go to the rabbi telling me I could just go to Lex Wexner's 1989 interview with the New York Times, where he tells him all about the little demon that lives inside of his head. that tells him what to do and how it's the demon that makes
Starting point is 00:53:52 him makes such keen business choices and the demon tells him to do all types of stuff that benefit him and he has long dialogues with this demon what's his name Edelson
Starting point is 00:54:13 there's an interview with him saying an almost identical thing. And you can actually look up all types of interesting people, all generally of a certain type of people, but that at some point in time will tell you all about the little demon that lives inside their brain.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So either it's just the schools, as Pete was saying, or it's just, you know, know, in ideology or the way that they were raised. No, listen to them when they tell you, right? What's his name? Damn, I wish I knew we were going to get on this topic because I have a whole bunch of little interesting quotes.
Starting point is 00:55:19 But some of them were brave enough to flat out tell you the difference between the God that Talmudic Jews or Kabbalistic Jews worship. And how that's different from the God that you think that they worship? He's a different guy. They know he's a different guy. They think it's hilarious that you don't. It's a unified consciousness outside of time and space,
Starting point is 00:55:54 whispering into the ears of millions of individual decentralized people across the planet. That's what it is. and it's much harder. I should go into this a little bit more. But I can wrap with that. Because it is a bit of a white pill at the end because, I mean, this is all very black pilling. And I don't mean it to be.
Starting point is 00:56:35 But I know that there was some other feedback we should probably touch on because I want to make sure everybody gets there. We can just touch on some of the questions and comments people had. What did we specifically, did you specifically address the, the,
Starting point is 00:56:53 how evil and how lies spread and relate that specifically to how the quote unquote the left? How those are in concert. Well, I mean, funny enough,
Starting point is 00:57:17 it was your episode with Dr. Raphael Johnson. and about the murder of the Romanovs. That was a huge light bulb for me. I've had this conversation with a couple of other VAR guys. Woes was one from Stombeer, which everyone should go check that podcast out. It's amazing.
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Starting point is 00:58:55 Ravos'neas in the hamstere, is leargoal gilor gaihe and not art greeing in Aundun, and lehanda gala to gian tammal faddae Gail to Dairn. In Ergird, we're dig tour
Starting point is 00:59:07 in Woonaha with one ofunach on the English on as the entire time, Gnow, and Pobble tariff at one tachee. There's era
Starting point is 00:59:18 of Cooctoo Agen, But he and I were having a conversation about when this started. And he was like, I am of the firm belief that Satan was let out of his prison sometime in the early 1900s, sometime in the last century. I was like, well, he's like, I can't prove it. You know, I don't know how you could prove it. But it had to have happened then, because he's like, it's just like a total phase change. And it's everywhere all at once.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And that's when I remembered that interview you did with Dr. Raphael Johnson, when he talked about some of the photos of the basement that the Roman were killed in and what was on the walls. So everybody thinks that, you know, when an animal or a person is sacrificed, they think it's the taking of the life that is the sacrifice, right? That that's the currency, the thing that was alive and now we killed it for you. That's not at all what's happening. It's the blood. And God tells us in the Bible, it's the blood. So it's not the killing of a thing or a person. It's the blood of a thing or a person.
Starting point is 01:01:09 This is why in Genesis he tells you not to eat, meat with the blood still in it. He's like, that's, you know, that life is for me. So the hierarchies exist everywhere in nature because nature, because nature is Logos. It is God. His Logos binds and it sets the parameters of our reality. That's really what nature is. Nature is him.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And the hierarchies that exist down here, authority down here is authority up there. hierarchy up there is hierarchy down here they are the same thing right so let's say i was some i don't know some occultist right and i wanted to i don't know summon a demon or a spirit if i'd do such a thing in t-shirts and flip-flops, depending on how powerful is spirit, I'm going to get my life ruined. I'll probably die.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Or I'll end up in a sane asylum, which is the same thing. But let's say if I did it in a white robe or a toga, and let's say I had a sword on my hip, a crown on my hip, a crown on my arm, head. And I somehow managed to get a hold of enough lion's skin to make a belt. And I do the
Starting point is 01:03:28 exact same thing. Not only am I not going to get destroyed, but I will find whatever it is that I summon quite cooperative. Because it could be a fucking Burger King crown. It doesn't matter. They don't see that great, but they smell really good. That demon would be. looking at Solomon. That's what he'd be looking at. Right. Authority down here is authority up there. A king down here is a king up there. Right. There is an actual spiritual mechanism in monarchy because we make it so. Right. Our collective views of a person's authority is their authority. So I don't know what type of evil you could unleash into the world, but blood is basically spiritual gold. If you had a currency, if there was a monetary unit that that
Starting point is 01:05:00 world ran on, or at least they ran on, it would be blood. So I don't know, like I said, the type of evil that you could unleash into the world by butchering a king and his queen and his children and draining them of that blood. But I could imagine you could do a fucking lot. I don't know exactly how much blood it takes to release Satan. I was too much time I never asked. But I bet you there is enough there.
Starting point is 01:05:40 and Dr. Raphael Johnson said that there were things written on the wall in blood. Am I correct? Yes. Do you remember what they were? I don't. I don't. They were sigils. They were calling collect.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Every demon's got a phone number, so to speak. So does every angel. But yeah, the fact that the most noble blood left in Christendom was ritualistically drained and used in a sacrifice in a dark, dirty basement covered with bloody sigils on the wall. And the birth of an ideology that would become a human meat grinder into which millions upon millions, hundreds of millions of souls were fed into, and even the souls that weren't fed into the meat grinder physically, billions more would be deracinated and stripped of their Christianity
Starting point is 01:07:27 and their faith over the period of the next 60 to 100 years, all from that moment. I think is too much of a coincidence to overlook. I don't know how you'd release the devil out of his tomb, but I'd imagine it'd look something like that. Yeah. And if blood is power, if blood does exactly what you're describing,
Starting point is 01:08:06 orchestrating the death of 60 million over a five to six year period, what can that unleash upon the world? You're feeding something, right? Like you're making a deal with something. There's a, I know we talked about in the previous episode, consciousness, collective human consciousness's ability to influence and shape reality. But that's only certain groups of people.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Other groups of people don't have that. and most all of them don't know that they don't have it except for one particular group in that one particular group at least the their magi class I don't want to call them you know you catch them in the corner of your eye
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Starting point is 01:10:47 and not greeing in Aundun, and leant of Gala to gian tammalphada ghawned to deirin. In Ergrid, we're dig tour in awe-whunah with funnive and vonevin'wune. There's a ushraud who are lecturers on as to refer to all the child, gnaw, and people, tariff in the country,
Starting point is 01:11:07 there's a cooct-do ag, Fulamly small, it ergrid Ponga'i. Spiritual leaders, because what they're doing is magic, it's not any type of spiritual vocation whatsoever. I mean, I can pick up a Kabbalah, I can pick up a Zohar, and I can read you exactly where it comes from. It was their passages. I don't know if I did this in the first episode, did I?
Starting point is 01:11:42 where the cabala actually comes from what it is? I mean, I can tell you right now. I mean, oh, where it comes from and what it is? I mean, I pulled up Shah Hoc's book, Jewish history, Jewish religion, where he describes exactly what it is. But, yeah, I mean, I don't remember if you told, if you mentioned where the cabala came from. So go right ahead.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I'll pull up the book. It's probably the most well documented so far, but the Kabbalah is basically ripped a whole hog out of what's called the Greco-Egyptian magical papyri. It is a series of magical texts about 2,000 years old, written in blood. You'll notice that a lot, by the way. It kind of keeps coming up, right?
Starting point is 01:12:51 Hollywood even tells you, Hollywood even shares it with you. They don't have to. That's what some people think, oh, if they have to share that. No, they don't have to. They're bragging. They're telling you in tales. They're telling you in fiction, much of the way certain writers that I've been reading lately have written fiction books telling you how to do things like,
Starting point is 01:13:17 oh, overthrow governments and things like that. It's funny. People should, I've, I've gone back to starting to examine more fiction lately, because there's a lot there that certain people will know they can't come out and tell you exactly what it is, but they can tell you exactly what you need to do. to do a certain thing, but they will, um, they'll show you how to do it through fiction. Yeah, that is very funny. Um, so here we have, um, I should have, uh, I should have bookmark these.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Something, something I learned about, something I thought about too after we, um, finished the last episode where towards the end we were talking about, um, the rosary. Yes. Notice how Hollywood has portrayed the rosary for the last 60 or 70 years. When you see someone praying the rosary in Hollywood, who's praying, in a Hollywood movie, who's doing it? Nuns. Or little old ladies. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:45 We could be. The fragile. Well, I never actually thought about that. Why? Because they want that association. They want that association with, oh, that's something that your crazy Catholic aunt does. That's not something that a man would do. What use would a man have for that?
Starting point is 01:15:12 It's a way to discredit it without really people knowing that it's being discredited, realizing that. Yeah, it makes you not want to pick one up. Why would they want to do that? Maybe there's power in it. Yeah. I mean, Padre Pio seems to think it was a weapon. I was about to ask. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah. And, how does that quote go? He just says, he just bring me my weapon. You know, he, he needs it at a certain, he needs it at certain times. and when you go back through history, you will see when men, when Christians are in war, especially in the last five, six hundred years, there are priests, there are men praying the rosary. And the amount of times you will see you can read accounts of the battle being won by a small group over a larger army, while the rosary is being prayed for them.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And then you'll read other accounts where the same army that's not happening and they get defeated. It's rather interesting. Padre Pia is one of the most well-documented mystics in modern times. Like scientific journals of all different types
Starting point is 01:16:53 traveled around to him and documented his ability to levitate by locate as an appear in two places simultaneously funny that be able to move things through prayer and
Starting point is 01:17:17 I mean where is where is my let's see if I can pull it up and let's remind people, Padre Pio didn't live in the 13th and 14th century. Nope. He lived in the 20th century.
Starting point is 01:17:34 He lived in Mussolini's Italy. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. So there is, what I mean documentation. I'm not joking. I mean the type of documentation that you would find in pretty much any type of scientific inquiry in the 30s and 20s. Like these aren't stupid.
Starting point is 01:17:59 stupid people. In fact, they were probably even more skeptical, more atheistic than they are now. Something very powerful happens when you throw in tension behind the name of God. Matthew, book 21 verses 19 to 21. And he noticed a fig tree beside the road. And he went over to see if there was any figs. But there was only leaves. When he said to the fig tree, may you never bear fruit again. Immediately, the fig tree dried and withered up. When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. How did the fig tree wither and die so quickly, they asked? To which Jesus replied, truly, I tell you, if you have faith and you do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to this fig tree, but you can also say to this mountain, go throw yourself into the sea, and it will be done.
Starting point is 01:19:16 John 14 12 through 14, truly, truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the way. works that I am doing. He will do even greater things than these because I am going to my father. And I will do what you ask in my name so that my father may be glorified in the sun. If you ask for me anything. In my name, I will do it. And that's exactly what Padre Pio was doing. he would tell you that he was not doing anything. Matthew 1720, because you have so little faith, he answered,
Starting point is 01:20:19 for truly I tell of you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, move from here to there, and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you. So that brings, to a good point.
Starting point is 01:20:55 I hate to let that one not set. But in those consciousness experiments, because right now it probably all sounds like a dualistic mess. You know, evil, the same as good, just different. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design. They move you, even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range.
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Starting point is 01:23:24 but we are able to extract some rule sets out of it. So in those quantum randomness generator experiments, where the fluctuation of quantum particles were able to go in one direction or the other by bending physics, they also did similar experiments. And you have to control for a lot. So you have to do these experiments a lot of times.
Starting point is 01:24:01 It's the only way you can tease out the trends. So I'm going to use this. I'm going to fudge the numbers a little bit just to make it easier to tell. Or else we're going to get into decimal places and just numbers I won't be able to recall off top of my head. All right. Let's say if you prayed for a month straight for $100,000 to come and find its way to your mailbox for whatever reason, right? It won't be a zero chance. You will have made some impact, right? So we'll just say it is an value, whether it's 2% or 1%. It is a measurable impact. But let's say that your neighbor was, your neighbor had cancer and her chemotherapy was costing so much money she was going to lose her house and be homeless.
Starting point is 01:25:33 And the remainder on her mortgage was $100,000. So let's just say that for the next month, you prayed every day for $100,000 to not show up in your mailbox, but to show up in the mailbox next door. And what do you think the chances of that would be? N, N plus, you know, two, N plus five. No, no, it's not. It's N times 12.4 something, something. So when prayer is directed for the benefit of others, with no benefit whatsoever to you, the person praying.
Starting point is 01:26:53 For some reason, we do not know why the reason is, but no matter where you do similar studies, wherever in the world, I think this has been replicated three times. So twice in the U.S. and once in Europe. So I can't say it works everywhere in the world. We haven't done it everywhere in the world yet. But what I can say is that for some reason, when conscious intention is put towards the selfless benefit of others, somehow the architecture, the structure of the universe we live in, makes that more than ten times more efficacious. right so when you're praying for something other than yourself for some reason it's 10 times as
Starting point is 01:28:14 powerful more and this is measurable like these are not just nonsense numbers right you can derive the chances right just like the lottery tickets you can derive through rather complex but doable mathematics the chances of anybody walking into a gas station any moment or moment in time and pulling a one in a trillion number. It's doable math. So when there are fluctuations in those, it takes a bit of math, but it's easy to see. And the only thing you need to do is replicate. And after you've replicated a hundred times, a thousand times. right each time you're becoming more and more and more sure that what you're seeing is signal and not noise right you're replicating to remove randomness and then the outcomes are statistically
Starting point is 01:29:27 undeniable you have to admit that something is happening you may not know what it is or why but it seems that there is a trade wind in our universe. And it blows in only one direction. So you can blow against, you can try and sail against the wind and maybe you'll move a couple inches. But you flow with the wind at your back and you'll move a couple miles.
Starting point is 01:30:01 So there is a moral imperative built into, the very fabric of our reality. And what is our reality? Our reality is Logos. What is Logos? Logos is God. He, there is no place in the universe. I can go where he is not. I can't go outside of the universe. So, no matter where or how far I go, whether up or down or left or right, whether forward in time or back in time, there's no point where he is not there because he physically is the ocean we all swim in. So when I say that there is a moral imperative to the universe, an easier way of saying that would be God is good. You do not live in a dualistic universe. Evil is not the same is good. In fact, evil is much weaker than good. So the battle lines are pretty clearly drawn.
Starting point is 01:31:24 And that's why a bunch of... Which is why evil... Which is why evil thrives off of the weak. And not the strong. Because there's so much more of them. There's so much more of them. And that's why a hundred, a thousand anonymous retards on Twitter can change the course of the most powerful nation in the world and thus change the direction of the world. Because good is orders of magnitude more powerful. truth is orders of magnitude more powerful. And when it's selfless, which is what I kind of think anonymous posting is, isn't it? Right? When I see somebody steal my ideas, I can't get angry.
Starting point is 01:32:33 I've already made that deal, right? I will get zero credit for this. Then why are you doing it? Because it's the right thing to do. It's only downside, really. What is the upside for somebody speaking out against the regime? What is the upside for any of the, the things that we're doing now. I'd love for somebody to lay it out for me because from where
Starting point is 01:33:01 I'm sitting, it's only professional risk, career risk, financial risk, social risk, familial risk. I would love for somebody to please tell me where the upside is in doing any of this. I haven't been able to find any. So then why do it? Oh, and you'll get no credit for it. You know, the, when you talk about intention, the evil spirits have done a really good job of making that a bad word with the health and wealth preachers. Oh, God. And, you know, the, I forget what that, that course was that was popular in the 2000. It may as well be called the, it may as well be called the. Satan.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Yeah, they've done a really good job of making it sound really associating it with people who are evil and who are full of pride and full of greed and full of, you know, and have no, who know that what they're telling people, what they're teaching people is not going to help them. It's not going to help their people. It's only going to help them. So, you know, even using a term like intention has had to be attacked and had to be denigrated because of the power that it actually has.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Grant Cardone is a demon. He's a monster. That's what Grant Cardone is. The author of The Secret is a monster. He's literally inviting demonic possession into each and every person that reads that book. Right? You're gonna show them a door but not tell them what's inside. You're gonna have them sign on a dotted line when they have no idea what they're signing for. You're evil. You're a monster. And Grant Cardone knows a bit of, knows everything that I know, I'm sure, if not more. I'm sure his library would be really fucking interesting to take a
Starting point is 01:35:43 walk through and watch he's going to when he goes it's going to be messy and it's going to be he's not going to go nicely that's the unifying thing that you see in all of them that use this for their own self-benefit in their own name i guess would be a way to put it who was somebody who pushed all of that who was somebody who had the cardones of the world and all of these intentioned people all of the all of this on their show and then it comes out that they hang out with harvey winstein hang out with ditty and hang out with uh what the hell was that guy's name was running the pedophile ring it was a white guy something god or so oh the um yeah yeah john of god yeah john of god who baby farm god god yes Oprah winfrey yes Oprah winfrey
Starting point is 01:36:52 who pushed all of this stuff and then has associations. I mean, there's a picture of her which just basically looks like her handing off a young girl to Harvey Weinstein. I think we should take a look at St. Simon of Trent. Go ahead. Everybody should familiarize themselves
Starting point is 01:37:21 with St. Simon of Trent. If you think I'm lying or you think Pete is being hyperbolic, You're going to tell me like demons don't exist. Well, what was his, what's his name that did Passover's of blood? Tooff? Tooff. O'Oaf.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Oriel Tooff? Yeah, Ariel Tooff, yeah. The son of a, was the son of a Habad rabbi, maybe? I know his dad was a rabbi. Yeah, I want to, it would be very interesting. to maybe one day do a conversation between myself and, and hunger the die merchant, because it accidentally happened in a space
Starting point is 01:38:11 where he was describing to me these strange rituals that he witnessed when he spent time in Israel. Ariel Tooff basically was the... Ariel Tov is the son of Eliottooff, the former chief friend. Rabbi of Rome. Oh, so nobody. A loser.
Starting point is 01:38:40 And wasn't he, before he published a celebrated historian before he became public enemy number one? He was professor of medieval in Renaissance history at Barilan University in Israel.
Starting point is 01:38:58 He came to prominence for his book, pass over a blood and it was criticized and Tooff wrote but was unrelated what happened to him let's see second book appeared and afterward Tooff responds to the critics he said that the possibility exists as a certain criminal acts disguised as crude rituals were indeed committed by extremist groups or individuals demented by religious mania and blinded by desire for revenge
Starting point is 01:39:35 against those yeah I mean well you mean like the Jews who started slaughtering Christians by the hundreds which Kimmelnitsky had to put down in what 1648 because they thought
Starting point is 01:39:51 they thought they had made it so that their Messiah was coming back so they just decided to start killing everybody in the area When was Simon of Trent 15 something? Yeah, I'd have to, Simon of Trent is 1475. 1475. The Simon of Trent is a canonized saint who was a martyr,
Starting point is 01:40:19 even though he was probably too young to know that he was being martyred at all. I mean, he was allegedly three years old. Yeah. luckily he was baptized or they might not have wanted him. So Simon of Trent was abducted. He was stolen and was kidnapped. And he was taken away. And there's probably, I think there's four or five dozen well-documented cases in Ariel Tov's book.
Starting point is 01:41:02 But Simon of Trent was crucified upside down. and he was ritualistically the only thing I could describe it with is basically being poked with an ice pick and drained of blood which was then both poured on the ground and drank
Starting point is 01:41:31 by the participants of his ritual murder it was done on Passover some of the other murders happened on similar dates not Passover, but other religious festivals, religious festival days. And after Simon of Trent was drained of blood and messages were carved into his skin,
Starting point is 01:42:07 he was thrown in a ditch about 15 miles away. And if it wasn't for the distinct characteristics of the child, he probably wouldn't have been recognized. Apparently he had strikingly golden blonde hair. So, you know, baptisms were like a big thing. Then in medieval communities, right? It's not like, you know, today if you get baptized, maybe your family and some family and friends would get together. The whole community would, you're basically, it's a celebration in these tiny medieval communities.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Every birth is a celebration, every marriage is a celebration for the whole community because it is. And every death was mourned by the community. So everyone was there for Simon of Trent's baptism. Everybody there knew what Simon of Trent looked like, even the passing merchant that saw him in the ditch and got the authorities. When Simon of Trent was taken, someone smart enough had a young girl follow the people that took him to the house that he was ritualistically murdered in. And when it was announced a couple days later that they found the body, the young girl told the Lord. And I believe at this point in time, investigators got sent from Rome, and the perpetrators were found literally with the room and the upside down crucifix covered in blood and the
Starting point is 01:44:40 utensil. Like, I mean, it's the most fucking open and shut case in the world. And you could say, oh, maybe they were railroaded, really? I believe Simon of Trent and two or three others are some of the most well-documented medieval legal cases that came out of medieval Europe. So there is a faction of people, if you can call them people, remember, people don't value blood. Spirits do. Blood is the life that they don't have. so I don't know anybody that has a hankering for blood to the point where they need to ritualistically murder children and drain it from them.
Starting point is 01:45:44 I've never meant anybody like that, but apparently they exist because we keep on seeing it everywhere, except in non-Christian parts of the world. Then we don't see it. it's only in Christian parts of the world that are cohabitated by a specific group of people with a subsection of them with very very strange religious beliefs and they document them profusely in their text and there's very little difference in what they are saying
Starting point is 01:46:33 than what Lex Wexner said to the New York Times. Except Lex Wexner left out what he feeds, that little demon that lives inside of him. I believe you and Daryl Cooper did an episode on not just Jeffrey Epstein, but John Podesta and his brother. That was the first time I ever interviewed Daryl. we talked about how ridiculous ridiculousness of something called
Starting point is 01:47:17 the pizza gate or anything surrounding it absolutely absolute conspiracy theory nonsense just insane and you'd have to be insane to believe such a thing but the one thing Darrell was having trouble
Starting point is 01:47:41 understanding was why why they do what they do to kids. Why kids? Why not teenagers? Why not middle age folks? It's not just the destruction of innocence because a person
Starting point is 01:48:16 will never be closer to God than he is when he is firstborn. There is no opinions, thoughts, opinions of others that just lump together like a pile of trash and form something called the ego, right, someone's conceptualization of themselves, right? A person's personality or a person's idea of themselves. An infant, is just pure awareness, just experiencing the world. Has no thoughts, no preconceptions, loves every face equally.
Starting point is 01:49:15 An infant is the closest to God you will ever find on this earth, which another thing that happens. This part's kind of gross, and I don't like saying it. but it should be said to understand a lot. You can take the most materialistic point of view, and this will still disturb you. Or you can take my point of view, and not only will it disturb you, but you'll be able to explain a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:49:58 So when a child before the age is where they hit puberty, right, before their hormones start to kick in, the level of neuroplasticity is unlike any other time in life. But something very strange happens when you sexually abuse a child before the age of puberty. There's literally infinity scientific papers that you can peruse at your leisure about this. But it takes the neural pathways. in the brain and it bifurcates them. It snaps them in half.
Starting point is 01:50:49 If you imagine your brain is an antenna that's a wafer, right? It snaps it in half. And another way of putting that would be like, let's say you have this beautiful house and I cut it down the middle and I put a for rent sign on the other half. on the other half. I've turned your lovely home into a duplex. And the reason why these sick motherfuckers, these vessels,
Starting point is 01:51:40 do it ritualistically, which you and Darrell outlined to a point where it's really indisputable that it is being done ritualistically, you do that. So you can kind of time the open, houses and pick who moves in. You get to pick your neighbors. And if you look at things like, let's say, homosexuality or transgenderism, and not just the desire that they all have to replicate
Starting point is 01:52:32 themselves by sexually assaulting children before the ages of puberty. But you you will find they themselves were sexually assaulted before the age of puberty. So all their little houses got chopped into duplexes and somebody else moved in. And you can actually do a line, you can overlap the charts and you'll basically get one line. And not really, but nearest makes no difference, yes. The rates of sexual assault, a childhood, early childhood, early child, childhood sexual assault, the rates of that, which are drastically increasing, and the rates of disassociative identity disorder, D.I.D., also known as multiple personality disorder. So you can take
Starting point is 01:53:28 the entirely materialistic point of view and say, okay, well, in doing what they're doing to children, they are causing multiple personalities to happen. And I could say, okay, well, where do that other personality come from? And you'll have a really shitty answer for me. But I could take a person with this associative identity disorder that has one of, they've done this several times, where one of their identities, is blind. And they will stick that person in a cat scan tube.
Starting point is 01:54:14 And they will see that the areas of the brain, that process vision, go dark. Which is impossible for a human being to do, personalities or otherwise. You're seeing physiological changes in the human brain. So I guess that means it's a lot more than a fucking personality, isn't it? It's not a funny accent that they put on. So my explanation is able to explain a lot more things.
Starting point is 01:55:06 But you have to make one assumption for it to explain all those things. And that is, not only does evil exist, not only does Satan exist, Not only the demons exist, but they're in your world here and now around you. You may pass one on the street. One may be sworn into office for your state, county, or city. One may preside a satanic mass in the highest church in the nation. it would explain a lot more things. It would also explain to bring it back to the original
Starting point is 01:56:27 a whole bunch of individual actors, individual people, in a completely uncoordinated fashion, with no communication between each other, carrying out discrete individual actions, accidentally, creating this much larger thing, almost as if they are in constant coordination with each other, even though we know that they are not.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Uncoordinated people are acting in a coordinated fashion. How does one explain such a thing? I haven't heard a good one. That's not the one I'm giving you now. So the thing about winning a fight is first recognizing that you're fucking. walking in one. And no matter how much you don't want to be in a fight, how much that scares you, and it fucking well should, because now you know that there are stakes.
Starting point is 01:57:56 In a fight, there are stakes if you lose. It could be the hospital. It could be broken bones, lost teeth, or in war it could be dead. or it could be the loss of your immortal soul. Every fight has stakes. And whether you want to be in a fight or not, the other person gets to decide whether you're in a fight or not. Your only choice is what do you do next.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Go ahead. Yeah, and I was going to say it's hard for people to, if people can't recognize that they're in, in a fight. I mean, we're in a war. If there are people out there who don't recognize we're in a war, they're not going to recognize a fight. Yeah, they think, they think this is just politics. I'm sorry. Find me a previous example of politics that involved castrating children. find me a previous type of politics that burnt down churches and the rival political faction rallied and just like literally celebrates themselves desecrating images of Christ or
Starting point is 01:59:34 wearing t-shirts that say how great Satan is find me a political theorist that will explain this to me I'll wait. Like where? Oh, they're just confused. It's just the left, bro. They don't know any better. If we give them information, right? Or they just don't know the outcomes of their decisions.
Starting point is 02:00:09 They're stupid. I hate the term libtard. I hate it. These people aren't stupid. They're not retarded. I mean, Janet Yellen isn't retarded. She's a very smart lady. All of her actions seem retarded to you because you think her job is to manage the economy correctly.
Starting point is 02:00:44 And oh, she's just so dumb. She keeps fumbling the balls. It's just butterfingers. She's just so doofy. Or maybe you don't actually know what her job is. Oh. All these trans people seem to have a real problem with Christ. that's weird.
Starting point is 02:01:09 They're probably just stupid. They're probably just confused. Oh, they're going to erect statues of Satan in capital buildings. They're so silly. So dumb. Oh, Satanism is so cringe. Oh, it's so gay. Oh, look.
Starting point is 02:01:35 The FBI is throwing women who pray silently. outside of abortion clinics in prison for nine years. Oh, the left really just, they have no breaks, bro. The left is just, just insane. They're so stupid. No, traditional Catholics, right? Going to Latin Mass are at the top of the FBI's list. Oh, they're so stupid.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Oh, they just hate America. No. The Stone Choir guys had the FBI come after them. Come and interview people around them. Traditional Catholic, Latin Mass Catholics are having the FBI spy on them. What is the political utility of any of this? Where is it in Schmidt or where is, where, where, where is it? is it in Leviathan or the Machiavellians, where does it talk about tearing down God? Where is that in
Starting point is 02:03:23 politics? They're not libtards. They're not stupid. They're vessels for something much smarter and much older than you. And you need to give it the respect that it deserves because it was here long before you and it will be here long after you. And its only job is to hate you. That's it. It's all it does. It's what they all do is to hate you and lie to you. You could look at that book, what is it, the, the authoritarian personality.
Starting point is 02:04:27 I can hold that book up. And I could like, I'm sure there's countless church fathers that have written what a healthy Christian society looks like, what a godly society looks like. And I would imagine that that book, the authoritarian personality, picks apart each and every thing. I bet they don't miss a single thing that any of the church fathers said about what God wants a Christian society to look like. I will say one thing about the Stone Choir boys.
Starting point is 02:05:11 I think they hit it on the nose with why the regime hates white people. Because that's really the only thing is why white people. And their analysis of the IQ question and the time preference and moral continuity, there is only one race that has been able to propagate Christianity. not just preserve it, but also propagate it. The ADIQ African, no offense Africans, but, you know, those are the breaks. Within a generation or two generations, they revert back to their old thing, or start merging the old thing in with the new thing.
Starting point is 02:06:11 All of the people that were basically evangelized, all the people, all the people that, you know, all of the Wahakans that were carving people's heart out by the tens of thousands to one of their gods, which seemed to actually a funny thing about all these gods of all these peoples that we came across before Christianity. It seems that the center point of all of their religious interactions involved blood. So knowing that blood is the spiritual currency, it makes you think a little bit differently
Starting point is 02:07:08 about the blood of Christ, and let's say how powerful it was, enough to literally forgive the sins of countless millions of people. It seems that all of these other people, the Mayans, the Incas, their gods were just hungry for blood. And there's really only one people on the planet that have been able to propagate Christianity. So if you wanted to kill Christianity in a generation or two, you could just get rid of all the white people and then it's a fait of complete. Or you dilute them. You mix them. I don't know what it is, but I think there's something more in the blood than just its spiritual currency. I've been really into DNA computing. Everyone should look it up. It sounds insane.
Starting point is 02:08:31 It is insane. To find out that your DNA, one strand of your DNA, has more computing horsepower, more memory storage capacity than our biggest supercomputer. Maybe there's a little bit more going on in our blood than we think. I don't know what it is. but it seems that demons want it, and demon-possessed vessels want to destroy it. So I don't need to know what my enemy intends to do. I just need to know what he's doing, and knowing what he's doing is going to be bad for me. Okay, so they hate Christ.
Starting point is 02:09:37 They really dig Satan. They really like the castration, perversion, and bad. of genders, anybody that's even poked around at Satan at all, will notice that he's a dude with tits. They seem to have a hankering for the blood of unborn children, newly born children, prepubescent children, a desire to castrate and invert those children. put satanic statues places, tear down churches, pervert,
Starting point is 02:10:39 clergy's, pervert, the teachings. I'm really fucking struggling to find a political utility in any of that shit. But I know a whole bunch of people on the timeline, a whole bunch of people that say that they're on our team that will tell me that it's just political. It's just politics. They're just stupid.
Starting point is 02:11:12 They're libtarts. They're dumb. Yeah, the, um, when you go back, especially to, like, the Spanish Civil War, when you realize that they, the plan was to exterminate half of the Catholics in the country, they figured if they got rid of half, the other half would fall in line. And you look at the way. You know, they did it throwing, putting the bodies in ditches, putting the bodies in cemeteries, things like that. The disinterment of priests.
Starting point is 02:12:02 Yeah, the disinterment of nuns and priests and just how bloodthirsty they were when it came to the clergy. and when Thomas has Thomas pointed this out when we we recorded talking about this that in the span of the whole inquisition which lasted probably let's call it 350 years 300 120 years
Starting point is 02:12:32 roughly probably best estimates 3,000 people were found guilty and put to death not only of being heretics, that was really in the beginning, it just became a court after a while. Double that were executed in the first six months of the Spanish Civil War.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Double that. It's less than, what is that, 10 a year? Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah. 300 years? Yeah, but bloodthirsty, you know, bloodthirsty. But then you look at the Spanish Civil War and killing double that in the first six months from June 36 to December 36. And the amount of churches that had to be burned, seminaries that had to be burned, all of these things that needed to be dealt with. Well, why?
Starting point is 02:13:47 Why? Because you can just, you can defeat a people and get them to fall online. You can take over a government and pretty much people will bend to your will. Unfortunately, even some very people who consider themselves to be very pious, you will see them bending to the will of the zeitgeist. Why did this have to happen? Why did it have to happen that way? And you look at the people who were doing it
Starting point is 02:14:27 and they were all acting as one. I mean, all of them, there was, there was very little dissent. Once you start really reading it, there was very little dissent in the ranks. And you can actually, you can actually name a couple people, two or three people on that side
Starting point is 02:14:49 who spoke out against it, but the fact that you can name two or three people on that side shows you how little, how few people spoke out against it. It was just part of what needed to be done in order to bring in the new world that they wanted. So there's a bunch of, I can't remember if it was the previous owner of Mystery Grove or whatever.
Starting point is 02:15:29 I can't remember where I got to hear these. But somebody had gotten a hold of not just journals, diaries of the white Russians, but also some of the unaligned populations. who were basically forced to garrison troops of either side. Because, you know, some of these towns would fall into the hands of the Reds one month, and then they'd be liberated the next month, only to be pushed back again. So a lot of the common people got to see, you know, basically both sides, both types of people. in the way which they describe the Reds, and not just the Reds, right?
Starting point is 02:16:35 So some of the, they describe it as like a demonic fever took over all of Russia, because it's not, it wasn't just the Reds, but it would be like just common bands of criminals, or people would become criminals. And they, like, neighbors would become just as horrible as the Red Guard. All the people that have lived together for their entire lives peaceably. Like, they described it like a mania. Happened in the Balkan Wars in the 1990s as well.
Starting point is 02:17:29 Yeah. Neighbors. I mean, like, because like in Chechia, that happened. happened, right? But they were like pogroming the Russian population there. Yeah, in Russia, yeah. But just specifically over the period of the revolution, these guys describe a madness that had taken over everybody, even the unaligned people, right? Like something of a fucking movie, man. It is really chilling to read. And then you find out,
Starting point is 02:18:11 what was happening in the Romanian prisons and how similar stuff was being rolled out on the ground in Spain. Like, I don't, Daryl Cooper's stuff can be a bit much. And I mean that in the best way possible, as in like, you'll get more detail than you want. But I urge everybody to listen to as much as they can stomach his series called the Antihamination. humans and what was happening in the prisons. I'm glad you qualified that with as much as you can stomach because I couldn't make it through it.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Yeah, it's hard for good people to. It's going to be hard for good people to deal with that. Don't listen to it with your kids anywhere in earshot or your wife. Certain women are more vulnerable than we are. Like thoughts aren't just thoughts. thoughts and hearing, if you can make it two hours into that, I think I made it, if you make it three hours into that, you're a stronger man than I am. I couldn't, I tapped out. It is impossible to listen to what he recounts and continue to believe that you are in a political
Starting point is 02:19:57 fight. And there's a reason why they want you to believe you're in a political fight. And this is why anybody that thinks that they're in a political fight tells other people that they're in a political fight. Like first off, in the first episode, you and I did, Pete. I think we pretty much put a nail in the coffin of materialism. But yet there are materialists among us that think it's cool or that, I mean, deep down inside, they're just resentful, right? They're just, maybe their dad was a pastor or whatever. Because it really doesn't make any sense at this point. If you're in this far in the game, and I mean, this is coming off the back of a Trump victory. I should sound more ecstatic. But I'm not, because I know this is when people are going to be laziest.
Starting point is 02:20:59 And that terrifies me. People are going to think that we won. In what world would you ever think that you defeated the fucking antichrist by electing a president, by voting? In what world could you be so naive to think that the fight's over? Or the left is done, bro. They're demoralized. They're finished. It's not the left.
Starting point is 02:21:29 You're not fighting a political fight. and the risks of you losing aren't political. They're unfortunately eternal. And the reason why they work so hard, because if they were to just repeat, if they were to just do what they do, and they didn't say fuck all, right? Like if all of a sudden they started burning down churches,
Starting point is 02:22:01 erecting altars to the devil, to wearing, you know, Satan rules, t-shirts, whatever. And they were castrating kids. And they just didn't say fucking anything at all. And they just did it. We would be fucking burning them at the stake. It would be the most evil thing we've ever seen. But since they couch it,
Starting point is 02:22:36 in a politics, in a fake politics. It, if you accept the enemy's framing, you've already lost. There is a reason that this is being framed for you politically. If you are to remove that framing, you see this much more clearly, right? The political framing is there for their benefit and your detriment. It hides what's actually happening. And it makes you miss the way to actually fight it. It's deliberate, right?
Starting point is 02:23:29 If they frame it politically, the only actions that you will take and the only weapons you think are available to you are political ones. Right. You've effectively stood on the big X painted on the floor for you. Idiot. If you know that everything they do, at the core of it is lies and lying to you, you have to discard everything in its entirety
Starting point is 02:24:05 and work from your own first principles, chief among them that this fight is political. Because it's not. Well, what happens if, you know, we're talking up political Ws, why would we not want to continue going the direction we're going? Because it stops you from getting to the only place that these things actually fear. Right? The only thing that, the only man that the regime that Satan actually fears,
Starting point is 02:24:42 if I were to sum it up in an archetype, it's not a warrior and it's not a mystic. It's the combination of the two, which is why I think that you can bribe, and I don't mean to use the word literally, but you can bribe a warrior with glory, honors, and prestige. You can pressure, silence, torture, subjugate a priest, a mystic. You can't fight back. But what do the two have in common, the warrior and the mystic? They both greet death as a friend, as in they are not scared of dying. they are not scared about the only weapon that the regime has against you,
Starting point is 02:26:07 which is either to make your life miserable or to end it. And the mystic and the warrior have completely different reasons for why they act the way they do. right the warrior guy is not scared of dying because people die around him all the time the mystic or the priest doesn't care about dying because he knows that
Starting point is 02:26:40 this is like a short pit stop on a much longer journey and this is probably the grossest town he has to stop in and it's all downhill or it's all uphill from there right if they can't bribe you, they can't threaten you with making your life worse or killing you, or those close to you, you become invincible.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Because really all that they have is the fear of those things, and maybe in certain small instances, metering them out. But this is why, I think this is why the Spanish Civil War went the way it did, Because really on the ground, if you were to just do it by the math, Franco should have had his teeth kicked in. But if you listen to some of those accounts, like the men in the Castillo, I can't always pronounce that incorrectly.
Starting point is 02:27:54 How's the car? There we go. All those guys, none of them cared about living, and I'm sure a lot of them knew that they weren't going to. And you see this time and time again. Because once you take that away, it seems the most unlikely of things happen. Because if you are not scared of dying, we're scared of the bad things that can happen to you. You are either, A, an insane person, which is possible, there's plenty of them among us,
Starting point is 02:28:49 or you have faith. and what did Jesus tell us about having faith and what would happen to our actions if we do things with the faith the size of a pea we can command mountains to move and they will move and that's why I think
Starting point is 02:29:19 when you see situations like those men if they knew that they were going to die and that it was basically for them a fate of complete, the only way that they would continue fighting and not run away is if they have faith. Unless we can summon that level of faith, I think we lose. Even though we may win this short-term political battle, it's only four years. It's not really much in comparison to millennium or even a hundred years. Look what they've done in a hundred years. Everybody talks about, like, oh, the right's winning, the rights winning.
Starting point is 02:30:14 Is it? Is it? Have we made 100 years of straight Ws? I don't think we have, but they have. It's been 100 years of Ws. And we're winning for two days and now we're winning. We've won. We've beaten them.
Starting point is 02:30:37 They're demoralized. They're finished. They waited Franco out. And now his body gets torn out of the ground. And nearest makes no difference tossed in a ditch. So, I mean, I think that's, I know, I think we should, we should be happy, but we're fighting the wrong way. Yeah, that's where we end it. That's where we end it.
Starting point is 02:31:14 Right there. The reality, the reality that Franco is not in his grave anymore. He's not in the, what is it, the heroes thing? Oh, and I per, I'm, I'm fading fast. I said Al-Zakar. It's Al-Qasar. It's Al-Qasar. It's Al-Qa-Lago.
Starting point is 02:31:36 But the, where Franco was buried and where they disinterred him from was the field. I want to say it was the, but he won't. He's now in, yeah, he's now in El Fargo. in the
Starting point is 02:32:05 he was in the valley of the fallen and they I think they moved Primo de Rivera's body as well out of there so yeah but they won bro
Starting point is 02:32:18 yeah you can't stop fighting these people it's not they won politically and they won militarily but did they win the way we win is by changing ourselves
Starting point is 02:32:40 that's it that's that's where we that's where we end this all right man friend it's been a pleasure yeah yeah as always um until the next time let's let's see what uh let's let's see where the conversation takes us next time may not even be on this you may have to come back to this at a later date maybe we need something uh we need something new to talk about and then come back to this so i think there's going to be something there's going to be something. Whatever it is, it's accelerating. Have a good night, man.
Starting point is 02:33:23 All right, take care. Bye.

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