The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1205: They're Not Going Away w/ Aelthemplaer
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beaten through but going through
You want to tell anybody
Give any background or however much you want to tell about yourself?
Oh well
professionally I'm a Renaissance man of sorts
I do like
Ad work architecture work design work
Writing work coding work so I just kind of
Have tiny income streams overall
So I try to be a resourceful person
That's me personally
And then on the internet I just mostly
well, I haven't been writing on subsect
as much as I should have,
but mostly just like attempts at art
slash AI art
slash making non-sloppy art
by abusing algorithms,
but other than that,
just political insights,
religious insights, history insights.
Cool. Well, I mean,
you've never been on the show before,
but we have been on the same stream,
Old Glory Club stream,
Pony Express Radio.
So, yeah, all right.
this basically
I wanted to start talking about something that you had mentioned
the last time you were on Pony Express
and I think it's something that a lot of people
are not taking into consideration is the fact that
eventually the Democrats are going to get back in power
and how do you think they're going to act when they get back in power?
Well, they went through four years of people not following their
authoritarian laws
and not believing all the things they were scaremongering about.
And then they lost the election with a billion dollars in the hole.
I think they're pretty pissed and want some vengeance.
And Democrats I know who, I guess you could say,
I won't say how I know.
When they're not ranting, they start foremending and scheming in very...
I like to say the Democrat Party clearly has a problem with murder delusions.
Just like these, you know, people that are angry in like a kind of berserk feeling, they'll describe their mind's eye.
And it's often full of these fantasies of murder and vengeance and destruction.
And that's when you know someone has started to become mentally ill.
And I'm noticing that a lot.
Well, all right.
Well, let's take it in this direction.
Some people will say, oh, that's just them talking online.
And someone like me will go, well, when I look at the.
situation we're in, I see the Spanish Civil War. I think there are a lot of parallels to the
Spanish Civil War. And the people are like, oh, these are just like crazy people and LARPers on the
internet saying stuff like this. And I'm thinking, well, you know, leading up to the Spanish Civil
War in the early 30s, if there had been the internet, do you think that they would have just
been quiet about what they planned on doing, or do you think that crazy people will actually
say it out loud? Yeah, they definitely would say it out loud. And I think in the Spanish Civil War,
they often did say it out loud in the ways they could in newspapers and things like that.
Yeah. So if that's the kind of mentality we're dealing with, what does the future look like?
because I have a tendency to believe.
For a while there, I was kind of convinced that we were going to be able to bypass this.
And it wasn't because I, like, thought that the Trump election was going to change much.
I thought it would give us some breathing room, and I still think it has.
But I don't know.
I just thought that these people would basically fall.
in line, like they've done in the past. Famously, Germany, a lot of the people fell in line,
and a lot of the people just left. But I don't think that's going to happen. And I don't,
I think that a lot of people are convinced, oh, because USAID has been, so much defunding has been
done. Well, I mean, we don't know what's been done to it. It's just been turned over to the
State Department. So I think people think, well, these people don't even have.
the funds to organize anymore. Well, if you know who to listen to, there are people who monitor
the left, and they go on their calls, and they find out what they're planning on doing.
And we have May Day coming up, and also Monday, May the 5th, where a lot of things are
planned. I'm not saying they're going to be burning stuff down, but I'm saying that there's
going to be a show of people on the streets. And I think people, I think a lot of it will be
downplayed. But I think if you really look at it, a lot of people are going to be surprised that
these people aren't going away. Yeah. I feel like the big influences and money in this country
went with Trump because they saw this was coming and wanted to give an off ramp to most of the
country. I'm not quite convinced Trump magically rallied so many people to him. It seemed like it was
somewhat organized behind the shadows. People were aware that the country had sunk in itself into a
pretty big financial hole and internationally they were falling apart and they knew that if they
didn't find an off ramp, things would start blowing up pretty quickly. And I think they're worried
because not many people took the off-ramp, at least on the left.
It seems like the – it did seem initially like some of the Democrat politicians were, like,
advertising the off-ramp of, like, just like, oh, let's just humbly accept this.
And a lot of the Democrat financed people that didn't finance Kamala Harris were, you know,
and kind of were financing Trump, they were kind of like talking about this being,
oh, it's a centrist movement.
We're restoring normalcy.
I think they found themselves rather shocked in the last couple of months that the far left has not taken the off ramp.
Instead, they've accelerated even further.
And they've, you know, we've already seen the, the occasional damages of like, I guess you can say icons of the rights power, if you will, like Elon Musk and stuff.
It's kind of funny that Elon Musk became this like boogeyman to attack because they couldn't defeat Trump in the election.
It was a very, I guess you can say classic scapegoat move.
And I guess in their minds they thought, oh, if I can, I may not be able to defeat Trump,
but if I can defeat this guy, it will be good enough, which is kind of like the psychology behind it.
And, you know, you saw like, yeah, Musk is suffering economically,
but they're not satisfied with that scapegoat.
And now they're starting to plot, I guess you could, like you've been saying.
Well, targeting Musk seems historic.
right? You blame the billionaire who I think this is probably unprecedented, has been invited
into the government to cut the free stuff that you look upon as like the sacraments of your
religion. So they have their enemy, they're isolating their enemy, and I can only
see them the musk the targeting of musk as something to build upon yeah and seeing that you know
Tesla suffered quite a lot in their quarter earnings people are or not I think there's a bit of a
fear factor in that but who wants to pay the insurance of getting targeted but there's also the
they could probably feel emboldened that that they hurt a they hurt this seemingly untouchable
and now they might start expanding that right well that is
what it seems, you know, they, I think people have really short memories. I don't really see a lot of
people talking about 2020 and the fact that there was a color revolution in the United States.
And that, you know, a lot of those people are still around. Sure, it's five years later. Maybe some of
them got married and had kids. Maybe they didn't. I'm thinking a lot of them did not. Maybe they're
just waiting in the wings for something new.
And when somebody first takes office and starts, it's smart to see maybe sit back, relax a little bit and figure out what they're doing and what they're going to cut and what direction they're going in and being able to figure out where is the best place to focus your energy.
And, you know, it's by doing it with billionaires, it's, these aren't people who are very sympathetic.
But it certainly is, it certainly, we can't discount the fact that this summer, what happened in 2020, could happen again.
And let's remember, who was president in the summer of 2020?
And did he deploy anything to stop these people?
Well, no.
And if he's not going to do that,
and he's not, if he has some kind of,
he's holding on to some kind of, quote-unquote, democracy,
which is just basically anything the Democrats like,
then what could possibly happen?
and what could possibly start to wake in night?
Yeah, and I don't think they'll try the race card again.
I think that's still kind of burnt out.
So what might be an alternative if they don't go with the race card is something to think about?
It'll probably be the race card, but it might be worth considering if they're worried,
because let's be real, the racial relationships in this country have not improved since 2020.
And I don't think using that card now will stir people to their side.
at all, but then again they may not care if no one start to this side. It might just be pure terror campaign.
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Austin Metcalf
and then
I think some genuine
reaction and some genuine
provocation on social
media, but also a lot of
AstroTurfed where, you know, he's
deserves it, you know, this is only the beginning kind of stuff. White people don't deserve to live.
It just seems like if you're going to, if you want to start a true revolution, you're going to have to get the other side riled up enough that they make a move.
And a lot of what, I think a lot of what we're seeing is leading it down that.
path or could lead it down that path.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I know in the history, they've typically tried to stir the right to act first.
And I get one of the things I got from this election is that white people in America are a lot more,
at least the younger people are a lot more organized.
And they're kind of forming a primitive racial consciousness, I want to say.
and I don't know if they'd be willing to play into that.
The island of isolation that millennials were victim to
that often allowed lone gunmen to form and do things
at the behest of the propaganda they were listening to,
I mean, that's now mostly shifted to the left, actually,
and it's the right-wingers that are more organized,
aware of each other's thinking and talk to each other a little bit more,
and it's not, the lone gunmen are now, you know,
trans shooters and leftists and stuff like that.
This year alone, I can't come to mind thinking of any right-wing school shooters.
I don't think there's been any in a very long time now.
And that leads me to think that if they're going to try to stir the right to do something
to make it look like they started it, I don't know for sure what kind of tactics they could use
to infiltrate groups of people rather than infiltrate individuals.
Because usually the standard practice was you, the government's,
clean up guys, let's say, they would go into like a group chat somewhere or Discord channel.
They'd isolate someone. They'd find someone to isolate, DM them, like kind of radicalize them in private,
and then let the cards play as they will. That doesn't work as much anymore.
So I don't know if they can stir the right wing to act first.
I may be talking on my ass. I don't know how you think, but that's the vibe I'm getting, I guess.
Sure. I mean, unless it's something that just has to be answered.
I mean, like a mass casualty events or something like that, that people feel like has to be answered.
But to take it back to what I said at first, they can just have little brush fires for four years or eight years or however long.
I mean, we do not know what's going to happen.
And Trump is, I do not get the idea that, like, Project 2025, which was supposed to be
basically be a dismantling of the managerial state, of the deep state, basically.
That's not going to happen.
It's going to be piecemeal here and there.
There are going to be some things.
But basically what's going to happen is, is the power that's going, you know, we just,
We're having people fired from the Pentagon and fired from the state as leakers.
Oh, this is, these are without any evidence whatsoever with no, you know, nothing.
Then you just had that guy who was on Tucker yesterday.
And this isn't going to be taken apart.
So what do we have?
Going forward, we're going to have the same thing we had.
We're going to have elections.
and if the Republicans win the midterms,
well, that's just going to rile them up even further.
If the Republicans win in 2028, when the White House,
that's going to, eventually the Republicans are going to lose.
Because, let's face it, what we know from history
is if you don't utterly destroy the left,
they're going to come back with a vengeance.
And they're going to,
they don't care about limits on power.
They don't care that, oh, if I grow the state this much,
then when the Republicans get into power,
they can use that power against me.
You know why they don't care about that?
Because the Republicans never do.
Yeah.
So at some point,
they're going to get back in power.
And after the way you saw for the last four years, the way they talk about us, the last eight years, they talk about us.
And I'm not talking about like, like we're MAGA guys.
You know, I think we consider ourselves to be like real right-wingers.
Yeah.
I mean, they're, go on, go on.
God.
No, God.
What do you like?
Yeah.
Before the election, I was on various OGC groups.
I was, I was kind of warning, like, don't think of Trump anymore.
a pause.
He's not like some base right-wing guy.
He's not, he's not, he's not like, uh, Franco.
He's more like President Bismarck before the Weimer fell.
He's, he's there pausing the radicalization.
He's there pausing the left.
He's not going to be able to undo the left or fight against them.
Trump was only ever good as a pause as a period of like two to four years to,
to essentially like, like, make yourself more, more, more,
more sturdy and able to resist the inevitable counterattack.
People like to think of Trump coming back as Empire Strikes Back, but not really.
It's more like he's just a pause.
He's ultimately just a pause from what the left was doing.
And I think, you know, yeah, I think we were hoping that there would be more direct dismantling of the managerial state.
But, you know, you can almost equate what, what's happening now with law, law,
and propaganda as a kind of
modern day trench warfare.
It's bogged down in trench warfare.
And unless some innovative technology or tactic
or third party comes in,
that trench warfare is only going to just bog people down for four years.
That can't sustain itself forever
because, again, trench warfare itself is also just a pause.
It's a pause from someone overcoming.
And I think what you kind of frame that way, you can kind of realize the situation you're in where, like, your job at this point is to think of some new tactic while you're taking artillery shells undercover.
That's basically your position.
You're not, you're not storming forward.
You're not moving the front line.
You are taking shells and hoping to God one doesn't land on you.
Yeah, people think the USAID, the defunding, the things that you're seeing, right?
now that you seem to be causing some groups to, you know, file lawsuits, some groups to go out
of business, some offices to close, that somehow this is, that's what was funding all of, all
of these groups, and a lot of it was.
But the same people, you know, the same kind of MAGA people will be like, oh, yeah,
USAID, look, look what we've done.
Oh, and, you know, 85% of billionaires vote Democrat or support Democrats.
Okay.
So what does that tell you?
You think you've cut their funding off?
You don't think they have other places to go?
I mean, these are the same people who scream Soros.
Yeah.
You can kind of view these organizations as the assets put forward in a quarter.
to do political action.
It's not the liquid asset that's behind it.
That's still in private reserves of these billionaires.
The money that they put forth for political action is in those federal programs to do action.
So essentially what you've done by closing those down is you've canceled the political action of like one season of war.
You haven't actually defeated the enemy.
you haven't actually sent the enemy back to their front lines.
You've just crippled them for one season of war, and that's pretty much it.
They'll find new organizations to pump the liquid assets into action.
They'll find new avenues to radicalize people to their side.
It's just that one front has been crippled and not occupied.
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Trump.
Right. And if you're not systematically seeking to dismantle and destroy, to isolate and destroy, to basically figure out who these people are and destroy them, then you're not playing a long game.
and if there's anything we know,
we know that this regime,
you know,
this leftist regime that's been going on for
that over 100 years.
And I know some people are like,
oh,
what does leftist mean?
I mean,
it's really the closest thing you can come to,
to use.
Saying Democrats retarded as far as I'm concerned,
but leftist makes a little more sense.
They're still there.
They're still plotting the wars.
They're still getting people fired.
They're still standing in the way of things you want to get done.
I mean, look at what they...
I mean, has there been any more brilliant strategy
than stacking every court in the land?
Yeah.
Like, if Trump was serious about destroying these people,
he'd stack the Supreme Court with like 20 people
that are like in their 20s and on his side politically
he'd stack the he'd expand the court to 20 people
with people our age group and younger
that's what he would do but he's not doing that because he wants to
again like Trump was only ever a pause of the crazy
it wasn't actually a fix for it the fixes are all
I feel like the strategies are what's that saying you guys
have like the strategies are all known but we can't say them
there's something along those lines
Yeah, well, yeah, something like all of our solutions are fed posts.
Yeah, yeah, that's the one.
So I guess I'll mention why you asked me on for that quote from Ratnick.
What was the guy's name?
It was, oh, Jamie, oh, God, what the hell is his name?
Jamie Raskin.
He is a, yeah, he's a Democrat, Democratic representative.
and he basically said, if and when we come back to power,
we are not going to look kindly.
And he made this,
he's basically saying that about countries
that are supporting Trump.
So my question would be,
if he's saying that about countries
that are supporting Trump,
what about the people,
I mean, they've already threatened.
I mean, they're throwing people in jail for praying.
Yeah.
I wanted to bring that
but like Bridget over now because like obviously he's
basically threatening an intervention in El Salvador
but that would just be like the tip of the
Spearburg spearhead
on the foreign side. On the domestic side
you can expect something much worse where they actually have power
to do things. What that hints at
you know he revealed a little bit of some of their plans
but you can assume if there if he's actively
threatening foreign intervention of
an allied country
they're probably
planning on
like mass domestic
infiltration to find
anybody that opposed them
and punish them and ruin them
so they can never speak or act again
and that was basically what I kind of mentioned
on the OGC stream a few weeks back
where like you have to look at
2028 something like
45 months from now
as a
as a terminus
it's an
inevitable coming point where you have to assume you're not going to win in order to have the
focus to win. So look at 2028, November 20, well, January 2020, as the point, of 2029, actually,
as the point when you are going to have to have the means to protect yourself. To what degree
that is, whether you delete on your social media and are able to work independently, or
you've amassed the funds to support your friends, which is much more important.
You have to spend the next four years of your life, assuming you will be in jail or tortured in four years.
Because that's what they want.
And the only thing that will stop that is essentially if it comes out what they're doing in the public eye.
You have to assume that that storm coming in 45 months is coming.
you cannot stop it.
How can you batten down the hatches and be prepared for it?
Maybe JD Vance wins,
and JD Vance isn't exactly the savior of the right wing or something like that.
Maybe they,
but instead,
maybe they take over the house and Senate in 2026,
and they,
kick Trump out of the White House.
That could happen.
It may be,
it may even be healthier to think about,
you only have two years for this.
It's entirely possible they impeach Trump in two years.
and your dream, your mega cope comes to an end, right?
So, like, you have to, like, you can't waste this period of time by just yelling pleasantries like Trump is.
You have to actually start preparing the means to protect yourself legally and elsewise because it's coming.
And I think that's what that's what most people don't want to accept.
and I think part of the reason for that is that people think that they've been conditioned to believe that all the answers come nationally.
And not that you need to prepare for this on an individual level or, you know, and then once you prepare for it on an individual level on a level where you actually have.
people that you can rely upon to, you know, a collective.
And I think that that's one thing that national politics and especially what you see
what MAGA is, and especially with political parties in this country, you know, Thomas 777 always
talks about these aren't political parties. Who's paying dues to it? Who's been kicked out
because they don't believe in the party platform.
What is the party platform?
These aren't political parties.
These are just syndicates that are willing to change on a dime what they believe in order to keep their power.
And Trump may be, that may be the one reason why they, if they genuinely don't like Trump, they don't like them,
because he's not part of one of those syndicates.
He's most likely just part of his own syndicate.
He has his own syndicate.
But is he setting it up so that his syndicate wins?
No.
So literally, what do you do?
What if it is an inevitability that the regime is going to take back power,
the question becomes,
what are they going to do to you? I remember talking to, you know, Warren McIntyre a couple years ago.
And it wasn't even clear Trump was going to, by this time, it wasn't even clear Trump was going to run again or even be able to run again.
And I said, I basically told them, I said, look, if the Democrat wins in 2020 or in 2024, I think some of us are,
taken out.
They will just take some of us out.
And I think, you know, I'm not one of these people who is like, podcasters are going
to change the world because I'm a podcaster.
You know, it's like I don't have those kind of delusions.
But they always make examples of people.
And it seems like they're going to get sick of making examples of little cats.
ladies who are praying at abortion clinics after a while.
That's an excellent point where I think what we're all witnessing is the left getting tired of making
examples at the higher ups.
I mean, one thing is, there are certain factors to bear in mind here that I've mentioned
in different places.
The average age of a boomer is going to hit the average mortality rate of this country in two
years. And after that,
the institutional
structure of the
post-war way of doing
things, you know, soft power,
making examples, don't get
too directly involved unless the country
has oil, that
will accelerate
as those people, the loss
of that structure will accelerate
as they die off.
The average age of mortality hits in two years, but
that accelerates exponentially. So,
by 2028, when that election happens, there will be 10 million fewer boomers in this country,
10 million fewer old voters.
Now, there's a lot of hula about, oh, the zoomers are more right wing than ever.
Okay, but there's more millennials than they're more left wing.
And not for nothing, but when those 10 million boomers die out, the country's not going to be
majority white anymore.
That's just a statistical fact.
And so you're going to have this period of remaking lines.
and everybody's out to like
everyone's out with their
with their knives to claim a piece of the boomer
a boomer empire essentially
and if you're just like
a lax
nobody hoping no one notices you
I mean A you're not going to have any political say
because people are going to ignore you
and B you're going to be
ran over by anybody looking to take
what they can't even now even as
the Republicans are in power what do I see
in New York City I see
like large NGOs and
groups buying
properties when the boomers die and giving it over to
like Muslim families that are
like somehow getting access to it.
I see I see
different organizations
buying businesses, an old boomer
pizza house goes out and it split up the
three different like mob
ventures from for some minority groups.
Like the active colonization
of this country is ongoing despite Trump
being in. It's all under the cover.
It's all not visible, but it's happening
still. And these are going to
blocks that you can't access.
You don't have the money or power
of these NGOs to get that property.
They're always going to outbid you on the property.
They're always going to outbid you on the business.
They're always going to outbid you on the loans.
They're always going to outbid you everywhere.
So if you don't start getting ready now,
it's not that they're going to come for you.
You're just going to be cut out.
No one even noticed that you're killed, basically.
You're going to be completely forgotten.
These are all factors to bear in mind,
even before they take power.
This is happening while Trump is in power.
It's kind of a,
crash out happening right now nationally.
And at the same time,
it's a time to organize and do things
for you and your friends and people.
If you're willing to
compete, I hate
saying that, you shouldn't have to compete for your own homeland,
but that's the point you're at right now.
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Well, yeah, also taken to, you talk about the boomers dying.
and the overall majority
I'm going to be white.
Well,
let's talk about immigration.
If he doesn't
deport what,
20 million?
10 million people.
Like, asks to be more than the boomers
are dying out.
Yeah.
If he doesn't do that
and he doesn't shut the border
and
then what happens?
I mean, it's just going to get worse.
And what happens?
the next time a Democrat gets in there.
I think it was Oilfield Rando who had a tweet the other day.
He said,
Democrat gets elected,
let's in 15 to 20 million.
You know,
let's in 15 million people.
Republican gets elected.
Doesn't do anything.
Deports a million.
Democrat gets elected.
Let's in 15 million people.
How long do you have a country?
Not long.
I mean,
the argument can be made.
We don't have one now.
Yeah,
I really think people should understand that.
I've been telling my parents,
you don't live in the United States anymore.
You live in a Soviet country.
You have to start thinking.
My parents didn't want to hear it,
but slowly they've come over to this fact
as they've seen their neighbors get replaced by foreigners over and over again.
And this might be something to tell your people in your life,
even millennials of your life, like, open your fucking eyes.
Take it.
Get off the screen and walk around your neighborhood
and see how many Americans live in your neighborhood.
Like, there are not many left.
I got kind of sidetracked,
but one of the main points I was doing with this
is when those boomers are gone
and the institutional wisdom is gone,
they're going to be playing by a new set of rules,
a violent set of rules,
and there's not going to be any old boomer with power
to stop them.
Joe Biden bless his heart for being a decrepit, corrupt man.
He's stopped the crazies,
occasionally from going too far.
Because he had that boomer soft power mindset.
Kamala comes in or someone like her,
they're not going to give a shit
about soft power. They're going to do hard power because
they do feel threatened. And not
for nothing. With the
death of the boomers also comes another factor.
Support for boomer interests
and the younger generation
that's inheriting those interests
is going out the window of two.
So like, you know, Israel is going to be forced to
compete for financing with
everybody else. It's not going to be a special nation anymore
in the eyes of the average American.
And if the millennials and younger
aren't giving a shit about the Middle East or
the Holy Land, they're going to be looking more
locally and what they can grab from here as the ship goes down.
And all the eyes and all the knives are going to be pointing it here, not outward.
Yeah, and I think you or I are not going to argue that we'd love to see Israel's interest
Wayne.
But really what happens when what usually causes the interest of one group to Wayne is the
interest of another group or other groups stepping in and replacing that. And I think you see that now.
I think that's why you see, you know, you go on Twitter and you see the reaction. You see Douglas
Murray, you know, with his clown show and Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan today with his clown show.
They're panicking. And that's why you see so many, you've seen so many of them come into, come over to the
the anti-immigration side, because why?
Because it's against their self-interest.
They're pandering, they're pandering as much as they're panicking.
They're desperate to find a new host organism to do their bidding because the,
the boomer host organism is dying out, and any good parasite wants a healthy host.
And they're hoping, they're hoping that they can hijack the right wing to protect them.
them, but they sure tell I'm going to protect you in exchange. Don't fall for it.
They don't give a shit about you. You're just bodies for them to cover behind the bullets.
Yeah. And, you know, they, you know, the argument could be made that their interests, whether they be
right wing or left wing or whatever, they're responsible for a lot of this immigration.
They've bragged about it going into Europe. And, you know, and so now they're like, oh, we have to
reversed this. It's like, well, what do we do to ourselves here? Look at London. You know,
that's why you have someone like Tommy Robinson running around who all he wants to do is talk about
the Muslims. Well, or the, you know, the Muslims or the Pack, whoever, whoever it is.
I don't ever hear, how often do you hear anybody talking about why they're there and who put
them there? Yeah. The Windrush generation.
I got invited to Easter dinner to some of my Italian neighbors.
And one of them I grew up with.
And so we kind of, we shared the same experiences of the country being lost growing up.
And so we kind of both are on the same level in terms of like, why is this becoming Israel first?
Why is Trump doing this?
But a lot of the family, even in our age group, is still stuck on the boomer play card and script about Israel
first. Oh, Israel's are our wall against the Muslim terrorists.
And I just straight told this kid,
how many mosques were in Europe before Israel was founded versus now?
And he couldn't give an answer.
It's just focusing on the straight facts does convince people very often.
But like, you kind of have to start preparing to put yourself and your people as the goal,
not some foreign people.
Like the next four years you're going to see Zionists.
constantly try to latch on like a mosquito to suck the blood and you just you got to keep them out.
It's Americans need to organize and protect their country for themselves.
Everybody else wait in line if even you get an answer.
And that's one of the main things you have to,
I think that's one of the main things that's to be done for like the young people who are growing up
and still stuck on the boomer script, libertarians and such.
But like there does need to be a lot of gatekeeping against these like
leftovers of the Zionist boomers desperate for a new organism.
to latch on to.
Yeah, and you see so much of what they're trying to do now.
Oh, if Israel falls, the West falls.
Israel, the Western culture came from Jerusalem.
Have you seen that one?
Yeah, that's so ridiculous.
It's like, Jerusalem was ruins when Western civilization grew out of Rome's ruins.
I mean, Jerusalem is.
Jerusalem at the time of Christ was Greco-Roman.
Yeah.
The towns were called Decapolis.
Yeah.
I mean, the main language of the Jews was Greek.
It wasn't Hebrew anymore and Aramaic, but that's like a Syrian import.
And like, I don't know where people get this from.
Like, the last cultural export that Jerusalem had was like Daniel 500 years before Rome.
And he was like, you know, this place is fucked.
And I don't know why people look up to Jerusalem like this.
I'm not Protestant anymore, but one of my favorite quotes from Luther is,
if the Holy Land was Holy, why God make it a desert?
It's like it used to be a fruitful land, but it's a desert now.
And it's just, no, Western civilization did not come from Jerusalem.
Jerusalem threatened a core of Western civilization when they killed Christ,
and then the survivors went west to help Western civilization overcome that.
danger. It's just one of those things where
it's a ridiculous statement.
And again, just like how many mosques
were in Europe before Israel was founded,
how many mosques are in Europe after Israel
was founded. That's all, that's just raw
factual data that you can't explain
if Israel is supposed to be our
or like our wonderful wall against
Islamic terrorism. No, it's an open gate
and it's just left people in.
Yeah, and
I tend to agree with my friend Tommy
Salmons.
If
if something was to happen where you had like a national politics revival, that would be like the final boss.
It's like that would be the final thing you'd be overcoming.
But, you know, as I think, I think as Trump doesn't do these deportations, I still have hope that monetarily some things are going to be fixed.
Some things will be fixed in the financial system that will be helpful to us.
It won't last forever, but it'll give us enough time to, you know, some breathing room to prepare, to acquire things, and to buy hard assets, especially land and houses.
Yes.
And, yeah, I just, I don't see.
When you look at the situation we're in, really the only, the only.
I think the only thing you can do is you yourself as an individual and the people you choose to
collectivize with you have to do everything you can to remove yourself from that system and
basically become self-sustaining and I mean that doesn't mean I'm not talking about you know where
you're going to do the do a Mount Caramel with branch Davidians or something like that but you know you can
and be in certain areas.
Because, I mean, I just don't see how...
There's two things I don't see us being able to avoid.
One is balkanization.
I think that's just...
It's on the table.
And anyone who...
I think anyone who's like, no, no, no,
that China excuse, use all the excuses they have,
which there are legitimate excuses.
I'm not dismissing them.
I'm not saying you're black pilling.
They're legitimate excuses.
It doesn't matter.
Balkanization is still on the table.
And so is mass violence.
I'm not saying that there is going to be a civil war
that's going to spread out all over the country.
But there are going to be pockets of rural versus urban violence.
And if people are not getting,
If people are not preparing themselves for that, I think they're lost at this point.
I mean, it wouldn't take much to settle.
Like, even whenever that's scheduled to happen if things continue,
it wouldn't take much for a foreign power to induce it upon us,
like China cutting off our medicine or something.
Like, this would stir millions of people to panic because they're literally going to die if they don't get something.
And you'd have mobs.
So we're not only headed in a bad direction
We're kind of like
Too dependent on other countries
To avoid it happening eventually
This trade world with China
I like it but we didn't prepare for it
And we're kind of fucked now
There's one maybe good thing from
From how bad it's going
Is that
Without so much
Free made up money
Cheaply available
All political actors are going to have a lot less to work with
So they're going to shed a lot of dead weight.
But that also means they're going to radicalize more.
They're going to centralize more.
You always saw with the Democrat far-left side.
I mean, the far-left may not even be Democrat anymore.
You're right.
I should probably stop calling them Democrats.
They're just open communists.
And they're working, they're in the process of purging their weaklings.
Like, the Democrats have basically lost control of their useful idiots.
And now you can call them their own faction.
Many of them don't want to vote for the Democrats ever again.
They want to do some kind of democratic socialist things.
or something. I don't know. And that's probably going to happen to the right way, too. I mean, if Trump doesn't deport people, if Trump doesn't do what he said he was going to do, by 2020, you might see a breakup of that faction to go for someone more radical. So that Balkanization is going to show up in the politics first, but in the process, it's going to show up, but like you said, in cities and urban and rural conflicts. I don't know, it's kind of kick. I was just thinking this, for some of it's brought to mind.
Do you know who Richard Wolf is?
Yes, of course, yeah.
So he's like that old Democrat economic advisor who's recently openly become like a Maoist champion of China.
And this is something I'm noticing with a lot of wealthy Democrats where they're actively moving their assets to China preparing for what's going to happen here.
They're preparing to just bail on the ship.
If they can't win outright, they're just going to leave and leave us to the chaos that they've inflicted with botanization.
So I don't know which course they're going to go, but already you see amongst the left, some of them are fleeing, some of them are reinforcing the trenches, and some of them are actively going on lawfare with their corrupt judges.
Those are kind of like an organism that's threatened trying every tactic it knows at once to see what sticks, I think.
Yeah, and I think that that's you're also seeing.
that on the right. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's there's the you know what I call the kosher right.
And you know, I mean, I doubt that I coined that phrase. You ever use a phrase for so long,
you wonder if you came up with it. And then you're like, there's no way I'm that smart.
And you're like, there's no way I'm that smart. And then, you know, you have the, I guess,
you have vestige, you have like the neo-reactionary right, which is a lot of crossover with
the kosher right. And then you have people who are just absolutely like we are sick and tired
of this Israel influence and we want it gone. And they hate that right now because they can
see that that is going to split the right. And they don't understand why it has to split the
right. It's like, well, I can show you videos of why it has to split the right because they
brag about being responsible for all of this for everything we're complaining about.
For the for the Civil Rights Act, for women voting, for gay rights, for all of it.
And even though you see a lot of like the, I guess the people that are quietly dropping Israel
as the beloved nation now going over to India for some reason?
Like, oh, let's all make nice with the Indian immigrants.
Let's bring in them even more Indians.
Let's bring a billion Indians over.
For I don't know what reason.
It's not like, why can't you just support the country and the people here?
I don't understand that.
Well, I mean, I think that they, these are people who don't believe that Americans,
they've bought into the idea that Americans, that,
whites can do anything anymore or willing to work with their hands or, I think white Americans
just want to be paid.
And I don't think that they, I don't think they're happy about the Indians.
I mean, it's shocking to me how basically in the last four months, you have seen a turn from
the concentration on Central American and South American immigration to Indian immigration.
I mean, it was the flip of a switch, and it happened over Christmas.
We remember Vivek Ramoswam and Elon Musk and all of them just being like, yeah, we need infinite Pagetis here.
And everybody's like, hold the phone.
Wait a minute.
And then people like myself had on an Indian gentleman and other people just started reporting on what exactly their culture is like.
And it's like, holy crap.
I mean, sure, we don't want Central Americans and South Americans come in here.
But at least we know that, like, they don't have a culture of filth and self-Americans.
and schemery.
And, like, you know, they're basically like a certain tribe in the Levant, but, like, live, who, like, enjoy living in filth.
Yeah, like, I like to say Latin Americans are like, like, there's at least a shadow of Europe there.
India is just this foreign, self-interested, selfish, like, like, you can see why their own people create a caste system.
They didn't want to be around the Dravidians.
Yeah. And so we see that. We see people, and the fact that you were seeing people
embracing them and saying, oh, no, we need to bring more of them here. You know, it's like Giant
Bandari said, you haven't met the average Indian yet. Most of the ones you've met are like the
cream of the crop. I would call them the cream of the crap, but the, you know, you,
you have people people are just and that's another problem with maga that's another problem with
the boomer that's another problem with a conservative that's another problem with the republican
that's another problem with trump they're colorblind they don't they don't see the differences
between people between races between cultures they don't see that certain cultures just
certain cultures and certain races just don't fit together.
They don't see the last, what, since 1965, when they passed a Civil Rights Act.
And basically, we have this murderous group of people who just came out of their shell and decided,
oh, we're just going to commit 60% of the murders.
Yeah.
And we're not going to, we're not going to apologize about it.
it's it's part of the part
pars and par for like like conservatives are afraid
to do action to face facts
they want to live in their utopia
in many ways they they are just like the
Democrats of yesterday year they just didn't
progress as fast
and it's one of the reasons why like MAGA is
again like it can only ever be a pause
back to like 1980s and what was AA'd say
like back to Fresh Air
for Fresh Blair
and
it's just not the politics of a solution, it's the politics of a pause.
And until, maybe we can like, you know, there were signs that we were starting to convince some of the tech bros,
you're kind of retired going along with this.
But it never seems consistent, right?
Like, the second they feel like the popular pressure is off them, they immediately go to, like,
I need my sacred minorities.
I need my slave labor.
I need it.
It's like a drug.
It's like every couple of months.
Every couple of weeks, it feels like we're having an intervention on the tech right and other parts of MAGA, and they just go right back to their drug addiction the second we're not paying attention.
So I don't trust them.
Which is exactly why if you're intelligent, if you're paying attention, you have to look towards the future and you have to say none of this, some things may get better.
But in the end, when that other group gets power again, you can't sit there and think, oh, they're just not going to, you know, they're just going to leave me alone.
They're just, it's fine.
There's one scary thought about this also.
you know for the past
40 years they had the excuse of
labor, cheap labor to
bring in illegals
and it's looking like
there isn't even much of a
service economy left for them to
do anything. These
these hordes don't even have any work to do
and there's no more
fake money to pay them to
sit around doing nothing. So I'm
almost convinced the left
they want to replace
the population but they no longer have the
means or the motivation.
Famously,
the last couple of the last year, like the number
of foreign students has like dropped
into hundreds of thousands and the
number of people self-deporting maybe as high as
100,000 even before Trump came in,
they're not staying anymore. So
they're going to try, of course. They're going to constantly
try to lead the border open, but they're making a point
when even like
Juan and and Shiba
and all these people look at America as like
a sinking ship and it's not even worth coming here.
At that point, when they can no longer replace
the population by by soft power and they and they and they can't convince the population by
soft power hard power is kind of all they have to get at this like weird ethnic grievance
they have against us not weird actually it's you know biological well yeah and it's
it is the result of a multiracial multicultural society it's the end result if you
don't have, you know, when you think, I mean, really the one that I always go back to is
Singapore. Singapore is multi, you know, multicultural, multi-ethnic. And, well, you speak
on the ground, they three in jail. Yeah. I mean, that's basically the way they, you have to
deal with people in a society.
like that. And you're not going to, when you start talking about that for this society, well,
it's like people are like, well, what do you want? You want like a national police force? What do you?
It's like, well, it's hard to answer that question because we haven't even addressed whether this can be
fixed. Yeah. I think that people think it can be fixed. I think there are some people out there
who think that all of a sudden everybody's going to wake up and they're going to demand order.
And there are some people who think, oh, well, they're going to send all the blacks back to Africa.
They're going to send all the Mexicans back to Mexico and they're going to say, and, you know,
the United States is going to become 110.
Well, good luck with that.
I mean, it's nice that you're talking about that.
It sounds great, but it also sounds to me like libertarians who were, you know, talking about how they're going to end the Fed.
and, you know, basically, you know, the government will be private one day.
That's like the level of delusion that I hear.
Now, you can make the argument, well, that's the only way the country will work again.
Sure, I'll entertain that.
But just like the libertarian or the anarcho-capitalist who wants to get to anarchy
where everything is run by good economics,
they have no way of telling me how they're going to get there.
So maybe someone can tell me how they're going to get there.
to get to, you know, this place where it's all just white Protestants again.
Yeah, it just feels like...
Yeah, God.
It just feels like we're already at the end of the empire, and now it's just a question of which barbarian warlord is going to take what parts of the empire.
And you kind of hope that's from your ethnic group.
I like to use the Goths as an example over and over again, but like, it's not so much that the Roman Empire collapsed as the Goths took over the institutions and divided it amongst themselves.
Actually, this might be a good detour from this, but within the topic.
Did you ever read that, I think I sent it to you the article by Charles Paul Minor about the Gallic aristocracy and the Roman Imperial Court?
I don't think you sent me that one now.
I might be confusing.
It's a really good article that goes into the actual port dynamics of how is it that this world powerful empire just ignored 30,000 Germans crossing its border and let like an entire province of Gaul burn and didn't give a shit?
Like how does an empire get to that point?
And Charles Paul Minor points out when Julius Caesar conquered, I'm going to a small rant about this history, but when Caesar took,
Caesar took Gall. He did it because he wanted to stack the Senate with people loyal to him.
He conquered Gaul. He took the elite of Gaul and he made them senators.
Are you aware of this part of history, actually? This is a fun little bit of history.
How like he stacked the Senate.
So he stacked the Senate with ethnic Gauls that had sworn faulty to him.
Essentially, the Senate kind of operated like a Supreme Court. He stacked the court. He doubled the size of the Senate and filled it with people loyal to him.
and one of the deals he cracked with Gaul
is that these new senators
who were not Italian got to keep their landed
assets in Gaul
and as a result of this centuries later
when the late Roman Empire's
like at its peak and about to enter the worst time
like it's decline
Gaul was still primarily ran by
Golic landowners
every other province in the empire
was ran by Italian landowners
from Italy. They all lived in Italy and they had
their assets and spread out across the empire.
Gaul was the only province that was not owned and operated by Italians.
So when they needed to start stacking the border with protection, the Italians would all take
the loyal Italians for themselves and the borders of the Balkans and Greece and Persia and
everything like that.
Those are all loyal legions.
The Lyme's Germanicus, they hired local Germans because they didn't give a shit and they felt
like, well, you deal with the Germans, Gauls.
and so when 30,000 Germans came to the border of Gaul
asking to come in because
Ethel de Hun was invading, the German border patrol was like,
hey, Hambre, come on in. And they just let them in.
And then when these hordes of Germans started ransacking Gaul
and burning it to the ground and Gaul's aristocrats,
and of course by now the Gaul the Gaul Senators were a minority
because the Roman Empire had quadrupled in size,
the Gaulic senators were like, hey, can we get an allegiance?
to like put down this massive fucking invasion,
all the Italian centers are like,
fuck off, you're not Italian, we don't care.
And ultimately, the fall of the Western Empire
came down to good old ethnic grievances
between the Gallic elite and the Italian elite.
And Charles Paul Minor goes into
just like the kind of shit that went down
between these two ethnic groups competing with each other
and how ultimately the Gauls realizing that Rome,
one of the things that had,
one of the turning points in this political relationship
was when the Gauls got fed up
with the German invasions and the lack of Italian support,
they elected their own emperor,
raised their own legions,
and decided to protect themselves.
That point,
then the Italians sent in the legions
to put down what they declared an open rebellion,
even though it was just a local warlord protecting the people.
Only when Gaul stood up for itself,
did the Romans intervene and punish,
not the barbarians,
but the Gauls,
the Roman citizens for protecting themselves.
They banned the ownership of swords,
like Second Amendment kind of at that time period.
And then they put the entire province on like military lockdown
because the Gauls dared to protect themselves from a foreign invasion.
It wasn't the Germans invading and burning down a chunk of the Roman Empire that got the Italians invested.
It was, oh, this is now a competing power to us.
They didn't care about the barbarian invasions.
They cared about the competing power.
So in some ways there's a lesson here for us in the sense like if you
if you organize too much, then the government will come after you.
If you organize not at all, you're going to get raped by foreigners.
How do you cut that balance so that you can actually protect yourself?
It's a hard equation to balance.
For Gaul, ultimately, they couldn't cut that balance.
They ultimately had to simply outlive the declining Roman Empire, and eventually,
the one time they organized themselves to protect themselves, there were no more
allegiance to put down that self-protectionism.
And that's basically when France began.
France began because there was no longer a Roman Empire to put down the competing power.
There's a very good lesson in that because, yeah, large sections of the South and the West are not owned and operated by the DC elite.
And so they're viewed as a competing power that will only ever be intervened if it tries to protect itself.
It's a abusive relationship.
And it's one that you kind of like, the only way out of that really is about.
organization. And that sucks because you don't want to give up the country. And there's a balance.
I haven't figured out how to cut that balance yet. I like reading history because there's a lot of
parallels, but they couldn't. How am I supposed to find a solution if they didn't?
You know it's the answer. You know what the answer is to a Leviathan that is out of control.
you just people are scared people are ideological people are holding on to the people are holding on to the past
and not seeing the future not seeing that things don't don't last if rome couldn't last
then you know what could it's i think that's one of the great lessons um i hate to cut you off
because you're just getting to Rome, and I know, yeah,
but I got to hop over to OGC meeting.
So thank you for, thank you for reminding, yeah,
thank you for reminding us, you know,
because if anyone hadn't thought of Rome today,
you helped them to remind them of that meme.
But tell people where they can read some of your work.
Yeah, I have a substack, uh, elf.
That substack.com or a template that subject.com.
own both. I should
start writing more. I kind of want to write more about
this topic, seeing as
how MAGA is increasingly
being a letdown.
And I have a Twitter, same name.
It's mostly shit posting. I'll try to be more
serious going forward.
And I'll just tell the audience,
please pray for the next
Pope to be hopefully at least a spiritual
head for these problems,
something that will help us
have a spiritual foundation to
to deal with this mess.
Amen, man.
I would love to see a
love to see a Pope come in
who can look at the world
and see exactly what's happening,
see the spirits that have overtaken it,
and prepare his people
to fight back against them.
We shall see.
All right, thanks, ma'am. Take care.
