The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1205: They're Not Going Away w/ Aelthemplaer

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

67 MinutesPG-13Pete invited his friend from Old Glory Club streams, Aelthemplaer, to come on the show and talk about how if the "Left" is not completely destroyed, they will be back and looking for ve...ngeance.Aelthemplaer's SubstackAelthemplaer on XPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:47 Oh well professionally I'm a Renaissance man of sorts I do like Ad work architecture work design work Writing work coding work so I just kind of Have tiny income streams overall So I try to be a resourceful person That's me personally
Starting point is 00:04:04 And then on the internet I just mostly well, I haven't been writing on subsect as much as I should have, but mostly just like attempts at art slash AI art slash making non-sloppy art by abusing algorithms, but other than that,
Starting point is 00:04:21 just political insights, religious insights, history insights. Cool. Well, I mean, you've never been on the show before, but we have been on the same stream, Old Glory Club stream, Pony Express Radio. So, yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:04:34 this basically I wanted to start talking about something that you had mentioned the last time you were on Pony Express and I think it's something that a lot of people are not taking into consideration is the fact that eventually the Democrats are going to get back in power and how do you think they're going to act when they get back in power? Well, they went through four years of people not following their
Starting point is 00:05:02 authoritarian laws and not believing all the things they were scaremongering about. And then they lost the election with a billion dollars in the hole. I think they're pretty pissed and want some vengeance. And Democrats I know who, I guess you could say, I won't say how I know. When they're not ranting, they start foremending and scheming in very... I like to say the Democrat Party clearly has a problem with murder delusions.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Just like these, you know, people that are angry in like a kind of berserk feeling, they'll describe their mind's eye. And it's often full of these fantasies of murder and vengeance and destruction. And that's when you know someone has started to become mentally ill. And I'm noticing that a lot. Well, all right. Well, let's take it in this direction. Some people will say, oh, that's just them talking online. And someone like me will go, well, when I look at the.
Starting point is 00:06:04 situation we're in, I see the Spanish Civil War. I think there are a lot of parallels to the Spanish Civil War. And the people are like, oh, these are just like crazy people and LARPers on the internet saying stuff like this. And I'm thinking, well, you know, leading up to the Spanish Civil War in the early 30s, if there had been the internet, do you think that they would have just been quiet about what they planned on doing, or do you think that crazy people will actually say it out loud? Yeah, they definitely would say it out loud. And I think in the Spanish Civil War, they often did say it out loud in the ways they could in newspapers and things like that. Yeah. So if that's the kind of mentality we're dealing with, what does the future look like?
Starting point is 00:06:57 because I have a tendency to believe. For a while there, I was kind of convinced that we were going to be able to bypass this. And it wasn't because I, like, thought that the Trump election was going to change much. I thought it would give us some breathing room, and I still think it has. But I don't know. I just thought that these people would basically fall. in line, like they've done in the past. Famously, Germany, a lot of the people fell in line, and a lot of the people just left. But I don't think that's going to happen. And I don't,
Starting point is 00:07:41 I think that a lot of people are convinced, oh, because USAID has been, so much defunding has been done. Well, I mean, we don't know what's been done to it. It's just been turned over to the State Department. So I think people think, well, these people don't even have. the funds to organize anymore. Well, if you know who to listen to, there are people who monitor the left, and they go on their calls, and they find out what they're planning on doing. And we have May Day coming up, and also Monday, May the 5th, where a lot of things are planned. I'm not saying they're going to be burning stuff down, but I'm saying that there's going to be a show of people on the streets. And I think people, I think a lot of it will be
Starting point is 00:08:35 downplayed. But I think if you really look at it, a lot of people are going to be surprised that these people aren't going away. Yeah. I feel like the big influences and money in this country went with Trump because they saw this was coming and wanted to give an off ramp to most of the country. I'm not quite convinced Trump magically rallied so many people to him. It seemed like it was somewhat organized behind the shadows. People were aware that the country had sunk in itself into a pretty big financial hole and internationally they were falling apart and they knew that if they didn't find an off ramp, things would start blowing up pretty quickly. And I think they're worried because not many people took the off-ramp, at least on the left.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It seems like the – it did seem initially like some of the Democrat politicians were, like, advertising the off-ramp of, like, just like, oh, let's just humbly accept this. And a lot of the Democrat financed people that didn't finance Kamala Harris were, you know, and kind of were financing Trump, they were kind of like talking about this being, oh, it's a centrist movement. We're restoring normalcy. I think they found themselves rather shocked in the last couple of months that the far left has not taken the off ramp. Instead, they've accelerated even further.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And they've, you know, we've already seen the, the occasional damages of like, I guess you can say icons of the rights power, if you will, like Elon Musk and stuff. It's kind of funny that Elon Musk became this like boogeyman to attack because they couldn't defeat Trump in the election. It was a very, I guess you can say classic scapegoat move. And I guess in their minds they thought, oh, if I can, I may not be able to defeat Trump, but if I can defeat this guy, it will be good enough, which is kind of like the psychology behind it. And, you know, you saw like, yeah, Musk is suffering economically, but they're not satisfied with that scapegoat. And now they're starting to plot, I guess you could, like you've been saying.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Well, targeting Musk seems historic. right? You blame the billionaire who I think this is probably unprecedented, has been invited into the government to cut the free stuff that you look upon as like the sacraments of your religion. So they have their enemy, they're isolating their enemy, and I can only see them the musk the targeting of musk as something to build upon yeah and seeing that you know Tesla suffered quite a lot in their quarter earnings people are or not I think there's a bit of a fear factor in that but who wants to pay the insurance of getting targeted but there's also the they could probably feel emboldened that that they hurt a they hurt this seemingly untouchable
Starting point is 00:11:43 and now they might start expanding that right well that is what it seems, you know, they, I think people have really short memories. I don't really see a lot of people talking about 2020 and the fact that there was a color revolution in the United States. And that, you know, a lot of those people are still around. Sure, it's five years later. Maybe some of them got married and had kids. Maybe they didn't. I'm thinking a lot of them did not. Maybe they're just waiting in the wings for something new. And when somebody first takes office and starts, it's smart to see maybe sit back, relax a little bit and figure out what they're doing and what they're going to cut and what direction they're going in and being able to figure out where is the best place to focus your energy. And, you know, it's by doing it with billionaires, it's, these aren't people who are very sympathetic.
Starting point is 00:12:58 But it certainly is, it certainly, we can't discount the fact that this summer, what happened in 2020, could happen again. And let's remember, who was president in the summer of 2020? And did he deploy anything to stop these people? Well, no. And if he's not going to do that, and he's not, if he has some kind of, he's holding on to some kind of, quote-unquote, democracy, which is just basically anything the Democrats like,
Starting point is 00:13:38 then what could possibly happen? and what could possibly start to wake in night? Yeah, and I don't think they'll try the race card again. I think that's still kind of burnt out. So what might be an alternative if they don't go with the race card is something to think about? It'll probably be the race card, but it might be worth considering if they're worried, because let's be real, the racial relationships in this country have not improved since 2020. And I don't think using that card now will stir people to their side.
Starting point is 00:14:14 at all, but then again they may not care if no one start to this side. It might just be pure terror campaign. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design. They move you. Even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range for Mentor, Leon, and Terramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2000 euro. Search Coopera and discover our latest offers. Coopera. Design that moves. Finance provided by way of higher purchase agreement from Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. Subject to lending criteria. Terms and conditions apply.
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Starting point is 00:15:49 There's a lot of you do you know on a couple tariff in the asses there are caught who are going to follow more in Ergrid Pongahee. Well, when you see something like
Starting point is 00:16:02 Austin Metcalf and then I think some genuine reaction and some genuine provocation on social media, but also a lot of AstroTurfed where, you know, he's deserves it, you know, this is only the beginning kind of stuff. White people don't deserve to live.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It just seems like if you're going to, if you want to start a true revolution, you're going to have to get the other side riled up enough that they make a move. And a lot of what, I think a lot of what we're seeing is leading it down that. path or could lead it down that path. Yeah, that's a good point. I know in the history, they've typically tried to stir the right to act first. And I get one of the things I got from this election is that white people in America are a lot more, at least the younger people are a lot more organized. And they're kind of forming a primitive racial consciousness, I want to say.
Starting point is 00:17:15 and I don't know if they'd be willing to play into that. The island of isolation that millennials were victim to that often allowed lone gunmen to form and do things at the behest of the propaganda they were listening to, I mean, that's now mostly shifted to the left, actually, and it's the right-wingers that are more organized, aware of each other's thinking and talk to each other a little bit more, and it's not, the lone gunmen are now, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:45 trans shooters and leftists and stuff like that. This year alone, I can't come to mind thinking of any right-wing school shooters. I don't think there's been any in a very long time now. And that leads me to think that if they're going to try to stir the right to do something to make it look like they started it, I don't know for sure what kind of tactics they could use to infiltrate groups of people rather than infiltrate individuals. Because usually the standard practice was you, the government's, clean up guys, let's say, they would go into like a group chat somewhere or Discord channel.
Starting point is 00:18:21 They'd isolate someone. They'd find someone to isolate, DM them, like kind of radicalize them in private, and then let the cards play as they will. That doesn't work as much anymore. So I don't know if they can stir the right wing to act first. I may be talking on my ass. I don't know how you think, but that's the vibe I'm getting, I guess. Sure. I mean, unless it's something that just has to be answered. I mean, like a mass casualty events or something like that, that people feel like has to be answered. But to take it back to what I said at first, they can just have little brush fires for four years or eight years or however long. I mean, we do not know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And Trump is, I do not get the idea that, like, Project 2025, which was supposed to be basically be a dismantling of the managerial state, of the deep state, basically. That's not going to happen. It's going to be piecemeal here and there. There are going to be some things. But basically what's going to happen is, is the power that's going, you know, we just, We're having people fired from the Pentagon and fired from the state as leakers. Oh, this is, these are without any evidence whatsoever with no, you know, nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Then you just had that guy who was on Tucker yesterday. And this isn't going to be taken apart. So what do we have? Going forward, we're going to have the same thing we had. We're going to have elections. and if the Republicans win the midterms, well, that's just going to rile them up even further. If the Republicans win in 2028, when the White House,
Starting point is 00:20:26 that's going to, eventually the Republicans are going to lose. Because, let's face it, what we know from history is if you don't utterly destroy the left, they're going to come back with a vengeance. And they're going to, they don't care about limits on power. They don't care that, oh, if I grow the state this much, then when the Republicans get into power,
Starting point is 00:20:59 they can use that power against me. You know why they don't care about that? Because the Republicans never do. Yeah. So at some point, they're going to get back in power. And after the way you saw for the last four years, the way they talk about us, the last eight years, they talk about us. And I'm not talking about like, like we're MAGA guys.
Starting point is 00:21:23 You know, I think we consider ourselves to be like real right-wingers. Yeah. I mean, they're, go on, go on. God. No, God. What do you like? Yeah. Before the election, I was on various OGC groups.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I was, I was kind of warning, like, don't think of Trump anymore. a pause. He's not like some base right-wing guy. He's not, he's not, he's not like, uh, Franco. He's more like President Bismarck before the Weimer fell. He's, he's there pausing the radicalization. He's there pausing the left. He's not going to be able to undo the left or fight against them.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Trump was only ever good as a pause as a period of like two to four years to, to essentially like, like, make yourself more, more, more, more sturdy and able to resist the inevitable counterattack. People like to think of Trump coming back as Empire Strikes Back, but not really. It's more like he's just a pause. He's ultimately just a pause from what the left was doing. And I think, you know, yeah, I think we were hoping that there would be more direct dismantling of the managerial state. But, you know, you can almost equate what, what's happening now with law, law,
Starting point is 00:22:44 and propaganda as a kind of modern day trench warfare. It's bogged down in trench warfare. And unless some innovative technology or tactic or third party comes in, that trench warfare is only going to just bog people down for four years. That can't sustain itself forever because, again, trench warfare itself is also just a pause.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It's a pause from someone overcoming. And I think what you kind of frame that way, you can kind of realize the situation you're in where, like, your job at this point is to think of some new tactic while you're taking artillery shells undercover. That's basically your position. You're not, you're not storming forward. You're not moving the front line. You are taking shells and hoping to God one doesn't land on you. Yeah, people think the USAID, the defunding, the things that you're seeing, right? now that you seem to be causing some groups to, you know, file lawsuits, some groups to go out
Starting point is 00:23:50 of business, some offices to close, that somehow this is, that's what was funding all of, all of these groups, and a lot of it was. But the same people, you know, the same kind of MAGA people will be like, oh, yeah, USAID, look, look what we've done. Oh, and, you know, 85% of billionaires vote Democrat or support Democrats. Okay. So what does that tell you? You think you've cut their funding off?
Starting point is 00:24:29 You don't think they have other places to go? I mean, these are the same people who scream Soros. Yeah. You can kind of view these organizations as the assets put forward in a quarter. to do political action. It's not the liquid asset that's behind it. That's still in private reserves of these billionaires. The money that they put forth for political action is in those federal programs to do action.
Starting point is 00:24:59 So essentially what you've done by closing those down is you've canceled the political action of like one season of war. You haven't actually defeated the enemy. you haven't actually sent the enemy back to their front lines. You've just crippled them for one season of war, and that's pretty much it. They'll find new organizations to pump the liquid assets into action. They'll find new avenues to radicalize people to their side. It's just that one front has been crippled and not occupied. Ready for huge savings?
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Starting point is 00:27:10 Trump. Right. And if you're not systematically seeking to dismantle and destroy, to isolate and destroy, to basically figure out who these people are and destroy them, then you're not playing a long game. and if there's anything we know, we know that this regime, you know, this leftist regime that's been going on for that over 100 years. And I know some people are like,
Starting point is 00:27:50 oh, what does leftist mean? I mean, it's really the closest thing you can come to, to use. Saying Democrats retarded as far as I'm concerned, but leftist makes a little more sense. They're still there.
Starting point is 00:28:08 They're still plotting the wars. They're still getting people fired. They're still standing in the way of things you want to get done. I mean, look at what they... I mean, has there been any more brilliant strategy than stacking every court in the land? Yeah. Like, if Trump was serious about destroying these people,
Starting point is 00:28:35 he'd stack the Supreme Court with like 20 people that are like in their 20s and on his side politically he'd stack the he'd expand the court to 20 people with people our age group and younger that's what he would do but he's not doing that because he wants to again like Trump was only ever a pause of the crazy it wasn't actually a fix for it the fixes are all I feel like the strategies are what's that saying you guys
Starting point is 00:28:58 have like the strategies are all known but we can't say them there's something along those lines Yeah, well, yeah, something like all of our solutions are fed posts. Yeah, yeah, that's the one. So I guess I'll mention why you asked me on for that quote from Ratnick. What was the guy's name? It was, oh, Jamie, oh, God, what the hell is his name? Jamie Raskin.
Starting point is 00:29:26 He is a, yeah, he's a Democrat, Democratic representative. and he basically said, if and when we come back to power, we are not going to look kindly. And he made this, he's basically saying that about countries that are supporting Trump. So my question would be, if he's saying that about countries
Starting point is 00:29:50 that are supporting Trump, what about the people, I mean, they've already threatened. I mean, they're throwing people in jail for praying. Yeah. I wanted to bring that but like Bridget over now because like obviously he's basically threatening an intervention in El Salvador
Starting point is 00:30:06 but that would just be like the tip of the Spearburg spearhead on the foreign side. On the domestic side you can expect something much worse where they actually have power to do things. What that hints at you know he revealed a little bit of some of their plans but you can assume if there if he's actively threatening foreign intervention of
Starting point is 00:30:27 an allied country they're probably planning on like mass domestic infiltration to find anybody that opposed them and punish them and ruin them so they can never speak or act again
Starting point is 00:30:42 and that was basically what I kind of mentioned on the OGC stream a few weeks back where like you have to look at 2028 something like 45 months from now as a as a terminus it's an
Starting point is 00:30:58 inevitable coming point where you have to assume you're not going to win in order to have the focus to win. So look at 2028, November 20, well, January 2020, as the point, of 2029, actually, as the point when you are going to have to have the means to protect yourself. To what degree that is, whether you delete on your social media and are able to work independently, or you've amassed the funds to support your friends, which is much more important. You have to spend the next four years of your life, assuming you will be in jail or tortured in four years. Because that's what they want. And the only thing that will stop that is essentially if it comes out what they're doing in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:31:49 You have to assume that that storm coming in 45 months is coming. you cannot stop it. How can you batten down the hatches and be prepared for it? Maybe JD Vance wins, and JD Vance isn't exactly the savior of the right wing or something like that. Maybe they, but instead, maybe they take over the house and Senate in 2026,
Starting point is 00:32:13 and they, kick Trump out of the White House. That could happen. It may be, it may even be healthier to think about, you only have two years for this. It's entirely possible they impeach Trump in two years. and your dream, your mega cope comes to an end, right?
Starting point is 00:32:29 So, like, you have to, like, you can't waste this period of time by just yelling pleasantries like Trump is. You have to actually start preparing the means to protect yourself legally and elsewise because it's coming. And I think that's what that's what most people don't want to accept. and I think part of the reason for that is that people think that they've been conditioned to believe that all the answers come nationally. And not that you need to prepare for this on an individual level or, you know, and then once you prepare for it on an individual level on a level where you actually have. people that you can rely upon to, you know, a collective. And I think that that's one thing that national politics and especially what you see what MAGA is, and especially with political parties in this country, you know, Thomas 777 always
Starting point is 00:33:44 talks about these aren't political parties. Who's paying dues to it? Who's been kicked out because they don't believe in the party platform. What is the party platform? These aren't political parties. These are just syndicates that are willing to change on a dime what they believe in order to keep their power. And Trump may be, that may be the one reason why they, if they genuinely don't like Trump, they don't like them, because he's not part of one of those syndicates. He's most likely just part of his own syndicate.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He has his own syndicate. But is he setting it up so that his syndicate wins? No. So literally, what do you do? What if it is an inevitability that the regime is going to take back power, the question becomes, what are they going to do to you? I remember talking to, you know, Warren McIntyre a couple years ago. And it wasn't even clear Trump was going to, by this time, it wasn't even clear Trump was going to run again or even be able to run again.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And I said, I basically told them, I said, look, if the Democrat wins in 2020 or in 2024, I think some of us are, taken out. They will just take some of us out. And I think, you know, I'm not one of these people who is like, podcasters are going to change the world because I'm a podcaster. You know, it's like I don't have those kind of delusions. But they always make examples of people. And it seems like they're going to get sick of making examples of little cats.
Starting point is 00:35:50 ladies who are praying at abortion clinics after a while. That's an excellent point where I think what we're all witnessing is the left getting tired of making examples at the higher ups. I mean, one thing is, there are certain factors to bear in mind here that I've mentioned in different places. The average age of a boomer is going to hit the average mortality rate of this country in two years. And after that, the institutional
Starting point is 00:36:19 structure of the post-war way of doing things, you know, soft power, making examples, don't get too directly involved unless the country has oil, that will accelerate as those people, the loss
Starting point is 00:36:36 of that structure will accelerate as they die off. The average age of mortality hits in two years, but that accelerates exponentially. So, by 2028, when that election happens, there will be 10 million fewer boomers in this country, 10 million fewer old voters. Now, there's a lot of hula about, oh, the zoomers are more right wing than ever. Okay, but there's more millennials than they're more left wing.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And not for nothing, but when those 10 million boomers die out, the country's not going to be majority white anymore. That's just a statistical fact. And so you're going to have this period of remaking lines. and everybody's out to like everyone's out with their with their knives to claim a piece of the boomer a boomer empire essentially
Starting point is 00:37:23 and if you're just like a lax nobody hoping no one notices you I mean A you're not going to have any political say because people are going to ignore you and B you're going to be ran over by anybody looking to take what they can't even now even as
Starting point is 00:37:40 the Republicans are in power what do I see in New York City I see like large NGOs and groups buying properties when the boomers die and giving it over to like Muslim families that are like somehow getting access to it. I see I see
Starting point is 00:37:55 different organizations buying businesses, an old boomer pizza house goes out and it split up the three different like mob ventures from for some minority groups. Like the active colonization of this country is ongoing despite Trump being in. It's all under the cover.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's all not visible, but it's happening still. And these are going to blocks that you can't access. You don't have the money or power of these NGOs to get that property. They're always going to outbid you on the property. They're always going to outbid you on the business. They're always going to outbid you on the loans.
Starting point is 00:38:26 They're always going to outbid you everywhere. So if you don't start getting ready now, it's not that they're going to come for you. You're just going to be cut out. No one even noticed that you're killed, basically. You're going to be completely forgotten. These are all factors to bear in mind, even before they take power.
Starting point is 00:38:41 This is happening while Trump is in power. It's kind of a, crash out happening right now nationally. And at the same time, it's a time to organize and do things for you and your friends and people. If you're willing to compete, I hate
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Starting point is 00:40:38 Trump on Dunebiog, Kush Farage. Well, yeah, also taken to, you talk about the boomers dying. and the overall majority I'm going to be white. Well, let's talk about immigration. If he doesn't deport what,
Starting point is 00:40:59 20 million? 10 million people. Like, asks to be more than the boomers are dying out. Yeah. If he doesn't do that and he doesn't shut the border and
Starting point is 00:41:09 then what happens? I mean, it's just going to get worse. And what happens? the next time a Democrat gets in there. I think it was Oilfield Rando who had a tweet the other day. He said, Democrat gets elected, let's in 15 to 20 million.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You know, let's in 15 million people. Republican gets elected. Doesn't do anything. Deports a million. Democrat gets elected. Let's in 15 million people. How long do you have a country?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Not long. I mean, the argument can be made. We don't have one now. Yeah, I really think people should understand that. I've been telling my parents, you don't live in the United States anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You live in a Soviet country. You have to start thinking. My parents didn't want to hear it, but slowly they've come over to this fact as they've seen their neighbors get replaced by foreigners over and over again. And this might be something to tell your people in your life, even millennials of your life, like, open your fucking eyes. Take it.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Get off the screen and walk around your neighborhood and see how many Americans live in your neighborhood. Like, there are not many left. I got kind of sidetracked, but one of the main points I was doing with this is when those boomers are gone and the institutional wisdom is gone, they're going to be playing by a new set of rules,
Starting point is 00:42:25 a violent set of rules, and there's not going to be any old boomer with power to stop them. Joe Biden bless his heart for being a decrepit, corrupt man. He's stopped the crazies, occasionally from going too far. Because he had that boomer soft power mindset. Kamala comes in or someone like her,
Starting point is 00:42:44 they're not going to give a shit about soft power. They're going to do hard power because they do feel threatened. And not for nothing. With the death of the boomers also comes another factor. Support for boomer interests and the younger generation that's inheriting those interests
Starting point is 00:42:58 is going out the window of two. So like, you know, Israel is going to be forced to compete for financing with everybody else. It's not going to be a special nation anymore in the eyes of the average American. And if the millennials and younger aren't giving a shit about the Middle East or the Holy Land, they're going to be looking more
Starting point is 00:43:15 locally and what they can grab from here as the ship goes down. And all the eyes and all the knives are going to be pointing it here, not outward. Yeah, and I think you or I are not going to argue that we'd love to see Israel's interest Wayne. But really what happens when what usually causes the interest of one group to Wayne is the interest of another group or other groups stepping in and replacing that. And I think you see that now. I think that's why you see, you know, you go on Twitter and you see the reaction. You see Douglas Murray, you know, with his clown show and Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan today with his clown show.
Starting point is 00:44:06 They're panicking. And that's why you see so many, you've seen so many of them come into, come over to the the anti-immigration side, because why? Because it's against their self-interest. They're pandering, they're pandering as much as they're panicking. They're desperate to find a new host organism to do their bidding because the, the boomer host organism is dying out, and any good parasite wants a healthy host. And they're hoping, they're hoping that they can hijack the right wing to protect them. them, but they sure tell I'm going to protect you in exchange. Don't fall for it.
Starting point is 00:44:47 They don't give a shit about you. You're just bodies for them to cover behind the bullets. Yeah. And, you know, they, you know, the argument could be made that their interests, whether they be right wing or left wing or whatever, they're responsible for a lot of this immigration. They've bragged about it going into Europe. And, you know, and so now they're like, oh, we have to reversed this. It's like, well, what do we do to ourselves here? Look at London. You know, that's why you have someone like Tommy Robinson running around who all he wants to do is talk about the Muslims. Well, or the, you know, the Muslims or the Pack, whoever, whoever it is. I don't ever hear, how often do you hear anybody talking about why they're there and who put
Starting point is 00:45:38 them there? Yeah. The Windrush generation. I got invited to Easter dinner to some of my Italian neighbors. And one of them I grew up with. And so we kind of, we shared the same experiences of the country being lost growing up. And so we kind of both are on the same level in terms of like, why is this becoming Israel first? Why is Trump doing this? But a lot of the family, even in our age group, is still stuck on the boomer play card and script about Israel first. Oh, Israel's are our wall against the Muslim terrorists.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And I just straight told this kid, how many mosques were in Europe before Israel was founded versus now? And he couldn't give an answer. It's just focusing on the straight facts does convince people very often. But like, you kind of have to start preparing to put yourself and your people as the goal, not some foreign people. Like the next four years you're going to see Zionists. constantly try to latch on like a mosquito to suck the blood and you just you got to keep them out.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's Americans need to organize and protect their country for themselves. Everybody else wait in line if even you get an answer. And that's one of the main things you have to, I think that's one of the main things that's to be done for like the young people who are growing up and still stuck on the boomer script, libertarians and such. But like there does need to be a lot of gatekeeping against these like leftovers of the Zionist boomers desperate for a new organism. to latch on to.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah, and you see so much of what they're trying to do now. Oh, if Israel falls, the West falls. Israel, the Western culture came from Jerusalem. Have you seen that one? Yeah, that's so ridiculous. It's like, Jerusalem was ruins when Western civilization grew out of Rome's ruins. I mean, Jerusalem is. Jerusalem at the time of Christ was Greco-Roman.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. The towns were called Decapolis. Yeah. I mean, the main language of the Jews was Greek. It wasn't Hebrew anymore and Aramaic, but that's like a Syrian import. And like, I don't know where people get this from. Like, the last cultural export that Jerusalem had was like Daniel 500 years before Rome. And he was like, you know, this place is fucked.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And I don't know why people look up to Jerusalem like this. I'm not Protestant anymore, but one of my favorite quotes from Luther is, if the Holy Land was Holy, why God make it a desert? It's like it used to be a fruitful land, but it's a desert now. And it's just, no, Western civilization did not come from Jerusalem. Jerusalem threatened a core of Western civilization when they killed Christ, and then the survivors went west to help Western civilization overcome that. danger. It's just one of those things where
Starting point is 00:48:45 it's a ridiculous statement. And again, just like how many mosques were in Europe before Israel was founded, how many mosques are in Europe after Israel was founded. That's all, that's just raw factual data that you can't explain if Israel is supposed to be our or like our wonderful wall against
Starting point is 00:49:00 Islamic terrorism. No, it's an open gate and it's just left people in. Yeah, and I tend to agree with my friend Tommy Salmons. If if something was to happen where you had like a national politics revival, that would be like the final boss. It's like that would be the final thing you'd be overcoming.
Starting point is 00:49:25 But, you know, as I think, I think as Trump doesn't do these deportations, I still have hope that monetarily some things are going to be fixed. Some things will be fixed in the financial system that will be helpful to us. It won't last forever, but it'll give us enough time to, you know, some breathing room to prepare, to acquire things, and to buy hard assets, especially land and houses. Yes. And, yeah, I just, I don't see. When you look at the situation we're in, really the only, the only. I think the only thing you can do is you yourself as an individual and the people you choose to collectivize with you have to do everything you can to remove yourself from that system and
Starting point is 00:50:26 basically become self-sustaining and I mean that doesn't mean I'm not talking about you know where you're going to do the do a Mount Caramel with branch Davidians or something like that but you know you can and be in certain areas. Because, I mean, I just don't see how... There's two things I don't see us being able to avoid. One is balkanization. I think that's just... It's on the table.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And anyone who... I think anyone who's like, no, no, no, that China excuse, use all the excuses they have, which there are legitimate excuses. I'm not dismissing them. I'm not saying you're black pilling. They're legitimate excuses. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Balkanization is still on the table. And so is mass violence. I'm not saying that there is going to be a civil war that's going to spread out all over the country. But there are going to be pockets of rural versus urban violence. And if people are not getting, If people are not preparing themselves for that, I think they're lost at this point. I mean, it wouldn't take much to settle.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like, even whenever that's scheduled to happen if things continue, it wouldn't take much for a foreign power to induce it upon us, like China cutting off our medicine or something. Like, this would stir millions of people to panic because they're literally going to die if they don't get something. And you'd have mobs. So we're not only headed in a bad direction We're kind of like Too dependent on other countries
Starting point is 00:52:14 To avoid it happening eventually This trade world with China I like it but we didn't prepare for it And we're kind of fucked now There's one maybe good thing from From how bad it's going Is that Without so much
Starting point is 00:52:30 Free made up money Cheaply available All political actors are going to have a lot less to work with So they're going to shed a lot of dead weight. But that also means they're going to radicalize more. They're going to centralize more. You always saw with the Democrat far-left side. I mean, the far-left may not even be Democrat anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You're right. I should probably stop calling them Democrats. They're just open communists. And they're working, they're in the process of purging their weaklings. Like, the Democrats have basically lost control of their useful idiots. And now you can call them their own faction. Many of them don't want to vote for the Democrats ever again. They want to do some kind of democratic socialist things.
Starting point is 00:53:07 or something. I don't know. And that's probably going to happen to the right way, too. I mean, if Trump doesn't deport people, if Trump doesn't do what he said he was going to do, by 2020, you might see a breakup of that faction to go for someone more radical. So that Balkanization is going to show up in the politics first, but in the process, it's going to show up, but like you said, in cities and urban and rural conflicts. I don't know, it's kind of kick. I was just thinking this, for some of it's brought to mind. Do you know who Richard Wolf is? Yes, of course, yeah. So he's like that old Democrat economic advisor who's recently openly become like a Maoist champion of China. And this is something I'm noticing with a lot of wealthy Democrats where they're actively moving their assets to China preparing for what's going to happen here. They're preparing to just bail on the ship. If they can't win outright, they're just going to leave and leave us to the chaos that they've inflicted with botanization. So I don't know which course they're going to go, but already you see amongst the left, some of them are fleeing, some of them are reinforcing the trenches, and some of them are actively going on lawfare with their corrupt judges.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Those are kind of like an organism that's threatened trying every tactic it knows at once to see what sticks, I think. Yeah, and I think that that's you're also seeing. that on the right. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's there's the you know what I call the kosher right. And you know, I mean, I doubt that I coined that phrase. You ever use a phrase for so long, you wonder if you came up with it. And then you're like, there's no way I'm that smart. And you're like, there's no way I'm that smart. And then, you know, you have the, I guess, you have vestige, you have like the neo-reactionary right, which is a lot of crossover with the kosher right. And then you have people who are just absolutely like we are sick and tired
Starting point is 00:55:13 of this Israel influence and we want it gone. And they hate that right now because they can see that that is going to split the right. And they don't understand why it has to split the right. It's like, well, I can show you videos of why it has to split the right because they brag about being responsible for all of this for everything we're complaining about. For the for the Civil Rights Act, for women voting, for gay rights, for all of it. And even though you see a lot of like the, I guess the people that are quietly dropping Israel as the beloved nation now going over to India for some reason? Like, oh, let's all make nice with the Indian immigrants.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Let's bring in them even more Indians. Let's bring a billion Indians over. For I don't know what reason. It's not like, why can't you just support the country and the people here? I don't understand that. Well, I mean, I think that they, these are people who don't believe that Americans, they've bought into the idea that Americans, that, whites can do anything anymore or willing to work with their hands or, I think white Americans
Starting point is 00:56:38 just want to be paid. And I don't think that they, I don't think they're happy about the Indians. I mean, it's shocking to me how basically in the last four months, you have seen a turn from the concentration on Central American and South American immigration to Indian immigration. I mean, it was the flip of a switch, and it happened over Christmas. We remember Vivek Ramoswam and Elon Musk and all of them just being like, yeah, we need infinite Pagetis here. And everybody's like, hold the phone. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And then people like myself had on an Indian gentleman and other people just started reporting on what exactly their culture is like. And it's like, holy crap. I mean, sure, we don't want Central Americans and South Americans come in here. But at least we know that, like, they don't have a culture of filth and self-Americans. and schemery. And, like, you know, they're basically like a certain tribe in the Levant, but, like, live, who, like, enjoy living in filth. Yeah, like, I like to say Latin Americans are like, like, there's at least a shadow of Europe there. India is just this foreign, self-interested, selfish, like, like, you can see why their own people create a caste system.
Starting point is 00:58:21 They didn't want to be around the Dravidians. Yeah. And so we see that. We see people, and the fact that you were seeing people embracing them and saying, oh, no, we need to bring more of them here. You know, it's like Giant Bandari said, you haven't met the average Indian yet. Most of the ones you've met are like the cream of the crop. I would call them the cream of the crap, but the, you know, you, you have people people are just and that's another problem with maga that's another problem with the boomer that's another problem with a conservative that's another problem with the republican that's another problem with trump they're colorblind they don't they don't see the differences
Starting point is 00:59:12 between people between races between cultures they don't see that certain cultures just certain cultures and certain races just don't fit together. They don't see the last, what, since 1965, when they passed a Civil Rights Act. And basically, we have this murderous group of people who just came out of their shell and decided, oh, we're just going to commit 60% of the murders. Yeah. And we're not going to, we're not going to apologize about it. it's it's part of the part
Starting point is 00:59:53 pars and par for like like conservatives are afraid to do action to face facts they want to live in their utopia in many ways they they are just like the Democrats of yesterday year they just didn't progress as fast and it's one of the reasons why like MAGA is again like it can only ever be a pause
Starting point is 01:00:12 back to like 1980s and what was AA'd say like back to Fresh Air for Fresh Blair and it's just not the politics of a solution, it's the politics of a pause. And until, maybe we can like, you know, there were signs that we were starting to convince some of the tech bros, you're kind of retired going along with this. But it never seems consistent, right?
Starting point is 01:00:37 Like, the second they feel like the popular pressure is off them, they immediately go to, like, I need my sacred minorities. I need my slave labor. I need it. It's like a drug. It's like every couple of months. Every couple of weeks, it feels like we're having an intervention on the tech right and other parts of MAGA, and they just go right back to their drug addiction the second we're not paying attention. So I don't trust them.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Which is exactly why if you're intelligent, if you're paying attention, you have to look towards the future and you have to say none of this, some things may get better. But in the end, when that other group gets power again, you can't sit there and think, oh, they're just not going to, you know, they're just going to leave me alone. They're just, it's fine. There's one scary thought about this also. you know for the past 40 years they had the excuse of labor, cheap labor to bring in illegals
Starting point is 01:01:47 and it's looking like there isn't even much of a service economy left for them to do anything. These these hordes don't even have any work to do and there's no more fake money to pay them to sit around doing nothing. So I'm
Starting point is 01:02:04 almost convinced the left they want to replace the population but they no longer have the means or the motivation. Famously, the last couple of the last year, like the number of foreign students has like dropped into hundreds of thousands and the
Starting point is 01:02:20 number of people self-deporting maybe as high as 100,000 even before Trump came in, they're not staying anymore. So they're going to try, of course. They're going to constantly try to lead the border open, but they're making a point when even like Juan and and Shiba and all these people look at America as like
Starting point is 01:02:36 a sinking ship and it's not even worth coming here. At that point, when they can no longer replace the population by by soft power and they and they and they can't convince the population by soft power hard power is kind of all they have to get at this like weird ethnic grievance they have against us not weird actually it's you know biological well yeah and it's it is the result of a multiracial multicultural society it's the end result if you don't have, you know, when you think, I mean, really the one that I always go back to is Singapore. Singapore is multi, you know, multicultural, multi-ethnic. And, well, you speak
Starting point is 01:03:26 on the ground, they three in jail. Yeah. I mean, that's basically the way they, you have to deal with people in a society. like that. And you're not going to, when you start talking about that for this society, well, it's like people are like, well, what do you want? You want like a national police force? What do you? It's like, well, it's hard to answer that question because we haven't even addressed whether this can be fixed. Yeah. I think that people think it can be fixed. I think there are some people out there who think that all of a sudden everybody's going to wake up and they're going to demand order. And there are some people who think, oh, well, they're going to send all the blacks back to Africa.
Starting point is 01:04:14 They're going to send all the Mexicans back to Mexico and they're going to say, and, you know, the United States is going to become 110. Well, good luck with that. I mean, it's nice that you're talking about that. It sounds great, but it also sounds to me like libertarians who were, you know, talking about how they're going to end the Fed. and, you know, basically, you know, the government will be private one day. That's like the level of delusion that I hear. Now, you can make the argument, well, that's the only way the country will work again.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Sure, I'll entertain that. But just like the libertarian or the anarcho-capitalist who wants to get to anarchy where everything is run by good economics, they have no way of telling me how they're going to get there. So maybe someone can tell me how they're going to get there. to get to, you know, this place where it's all just white Protestants again. Yeah, it just feels like... Yeah, God.
Starting point is 01:05:15 It just feels like we're already at the end of the empire, and now it's just a question of which barbarian warlord is going to take what parts of the empire. And you kind of hope that's from your ethnic group. I like to use the Goths as an example over and over again, but like, it's not so much that the Roman Empire collapsed as the Goths took over the institutions and divided it amongst themselves. Actually, this might be a good detour from this, but within the topic. Did you ever read that, I think I sent it to you the article by Charles Paul Minor about the Gallic aristocracy and the Roman Imperial Court? I don't think you sent me that one now. I might be confusing. It's a really good article that goes into the actual port dynamics of how is it that this world powerful empire just ignored 30,000 Germans crossing its border and let like an entire province of Gaul burn and didn't give a shit?
Starting point is 01:06:19 Like how does an empire get to that point? And Charles Paul Minor points out when Julius Caesar conquered, I'm going to a small rant about this history, but when Caesar took, Caesar took Gall. He did it because he wanted to stack the Senate with people loyal to him. He conquered Gaul. He took the elite of Gaul and he made them senators. Are you aware of this part of history, actually? This is a fun little bit of history. How like he stacked the Senate. So he stacked the Senate with ethnic Gauls that had sworn faulty to him. Essentially, the Senate kind of operated like a Supreme Court. He stacked the court. He doubled the size of the Senate and filled it with people loyal to him.
Starting point is 01:06:58 and one of the deals he cracked with Gaul is that these new senators who were not Italian got to keep their landed assets in Gaul and as a result of this centuries later when the late Roman Empire's like at its peak and about to enter the worst time like it's decline
Starting point is 01:07:16 Gaul was still primarily ran by Golic landowners every other province in the empire was ran by Italian landowners from Italy. They all lived in Italy and they had their assets and spread out across the empire. Gaul was the only province that was not owned and operated by Italians. So when they needed to start stacking the border with protection, the Italians would all take
Starting point is 01:07:42 the loyal Italians for themselves and the borders of the Balkans and Greece and Persia and everything like that. Those are all loyal legions. The Lyme's Germanicus, they hired local Germans because they didn't give a shit and they felt like, well, you deal with the Germans, Gauls. and so when 30,000 Germans came to the border of Gaul asking to come in because Ethel de Hun was invading, the German border patrol was like,
Starting point is 01:08:08 hey, Hambre, come on in. And they just let them in. And then when these hordes of Germans started ransacking Gaul and burning it to the ground and Gaul's aristocrats, and of course by now the Gaul the Gaul Senators were a minority because the Roman Empire had quadrupled in size, the Gaulic senators were like, hey, can we get an allegiance? to like put down this massive fucking invasion, all the Italian centers are like,
Starting point is 01:08:30 fuck off, you're not Italian, we don't care. And ultimately, the fall of the Western Empire came down to good old ethnic grievances between the Gallic elite and the Italian elite. And Charles Paul Minor goes into just like the kind of shit that went down between these two ethnic groups competing with each other and how ultimately the Gauls realizing that Rome,
Starting point is 01:08:51 one of the things that had, one of the turning points in this political relationship was when the Gauls got fed up with the German invasions and the lack of Italian support, they elected their own emperor, raised their own legions, and decided to protect themselves. That point,
Starting point is 01:09:05 then the Italians sent in the legions to put down what they declared an open rebellion, even though it was just a local warlord protecting the people. Only when Gaul stood up for itself, did the Romans intervene and punish, not the barbarians, but the Gauls, the Roman citizens for protecting themselves.
Starting point is 01:09:22 They banned the ownership of swords, like Second Amendment kind of at that time period. And then they put the entire province on like military lockdown because the Gauls dared to protect themselves from a foreign invasion. It wasn't the Germans invading and burning down a chunk of the Roman Empire that got the Italians invested. It was, oh, this is now a competing power to us. They didn't care about the barbarian invasions. They cared about the competing power.
Starting point is 01:09:49 So in some ways there's a lesson here for us in the sense like if you if you organize too much, then the government will come after you. If you organize not at all, you're going to get raped by foreigners. How do you cut that balance so that you can actually protect yourself? It's a hard equation to balance. For Gaul, ultimately, they couldn't cut that balance. They ultimately had to simply outlive the declining Roman Empire, and eventually, the one time they organized themselves to protect themselves, there were no more
Starting point is 01:10:17 allegiance to put down that self-protectionism. And that's basically when France began. France began because there was no longer a Roman Empire to put down the competing power. There's a very good lesson in that because, yeah, large sections of the South and the West are not owned and operated by the DC elite. And so they're viewed as a competing power that will only ever be intervened if it tries to protect itself. It's a abusive relationship. And it's one that you kind of like, the only way out of that really is about. organization. And that sucks because you don't want to give up the country. And there's a balance.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I haven't figured out how to cut that balance yet. I like reading history because there's a lot of parallels, but they couldn't. How am I supposed to find a solution if they didn't? You know it's the answer. You know what the answer is to a Leviathan that is out of control. you just people are scared people are ideological people are holding on to the people are holding on to the past and not seeing the future not seeing that things don't don't last if rome couldn't last then you know what could it's i think that's one of the great lessons um i hate to cut you off because you're just getting to Rome, and I know, yeah, but I got to hop over to OGC meeting.
Starting point is 01:11:52 So thank you for, thank you for reminding, yeah, thank you for reminding us, you know, because if anyone hadn't thought of Rome today, you helped them to remind them of that meme. But tell people where they can read some of your work. Yeah, I have a substack, uh, elf. That substack.com or a template that subject.com. own both. I should
Starting point is 01:12:19 start writing more. I kind of want to write more about this topic, seeing as how MAGA is increasingly being a letdown. And I have a Twitter, same name. It's mostly shit posting. I'll try to be more serious going forward. And I'll just tell the audience,
Starting point is 01:12:37 please pray for the next Pope to be hopefully at least a spiritual head for these problems, something that will help us have a spiritual foundation to to deal with this mess. Amen, man. I would love to see a
Starting point is 01:12:52 love to see a Pope come in who can look at the world and see exactly what's happening, see the spirits that have overtaken it, and prepare his people to fight back against them. We shall see. All right, thanks, ma'am. Take care.

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