The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1224: Big Beautiful So and So's w/ Aaron from Timeline Earth

Episode Date: June 8, 2025

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Everything's there. Aaron's back, and we literally have no idea what we're going to talk about. I mean, we mentioned one thing. but yeah, normally we're sitting here reading something, examining something. Nope, nope. Aaron's just putting up a wall there and wondering if it's going to be bloodstained by the end of the show. Well, we can hope so because things seem to happen on a Thursday right after Timeline Earth puts out the news. And that's very inconvenient, I find.

Well, I think they just, you know, the closer to the weekend, the less people, even, you know, people meme it all weekend and forget about it on Monday when they come out with something, some new bullshit. Yeah, or just Elon likes to get into his K-hole on Thursdays. We might need to adjust. I mean, you know, we sort of had to allude to that on the, on the Oakler Club live stream last night. We didn't really talk about it. it because I mean it's the ultimate slop it's just pure slop it is it is let me ask you this do you think that uh trump and Elon are natural enemies are they existential enemies no I mean I think they both are basically I mean I think the difference is there there are two businessmen quote unquote there's some weird stuff in Elon's

background that I question. But, you know, one is making, you know, the quickest way to become a billionaire is to do business with the government. Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, Howard Hughes figured that out early on. And so many have figured that out. I mean, all throughout time. One would say it's a requirement.

Yeah. Just about. So, and, you know, Trump, from what I understand of his business holdings, with the acceptance, of the you know I mean some of them look shady but with the exception of the post office in in DC that I'm not going to get into my friend Monica Perez has a whole rabbit hole she goes down with that or in a lot of cases rabbi hole but the it seems like Trump you know made his money by branding and you know putting his name on on build You know, there was something that, you know, there was stuff he did early on, but, you know, shedding risk.

He was very good at that. Yeah. So are they natural enemies? They shouldn't be. But I wonder if how Trump actually, I don't know that I've ever heard Trump comment on what he feels about people who, you know, directly do business with the government to get to the, you know, become, I mean, much more wealthy than Trump has ever been. Hmm. Yeah. It's an interesting question.

I see a lot of interest in the friend enemy distinction on the timeline right now in the context of this current spat between them. And, you know, if you're wondering if this is an op or not, I would be of the opinion that it is because there's no reason for them to be existential enemies. And there's got to be something at the end of this that's designed to draw a reaction from somebody. Do you, I mean, if this was an up, he would have had to clear what Trump in the beginning of the whole Epstein thing. Yeah. Throwing that out there is, you know, well, I'll tell you this. I've watched people that I've known for years, more on the libertarian side, completely exposed themselves as like, like they've been hiding the fact that they have TDS this whole time.

Yeah, as if Trump's name being mentioned in the Epstein files is some surprise. I mean, like we all, I think we all pretty much know the story between him and Epstein. I mean, it was it was social. He got kicked out of Mar-a-Lago because he was a creep. I mean, I would be surprised if it went much. further than what we already know. But I mean, good, but. Yeah, I mean, in terms of Elon and Trump's spat right now, I can see how that would be red meat.

I don't think it's anything more than a little red meat for people who already hate Trump to chew on. Well, I mean, it's the, it's it's beautiful watching like the cat turds of the world, you know, who are like so far up Trump's ass. I mean, they're more familiar with his proctological exam than his actual proctologist. I mean, just like, stop fighting. Stop fighting.

And the, you know, but the Democratic, yeah, the, the, the Democratic account for the, for, for X is demanding the release of the Epstein files now. Like, come on. Well, I mean, here, all right. So,

from what I understand, and I mean, this could all be an op. I mean, apparently everything is an op. And like, somehow the all, you know, certain groups or one group that works together has managed to manage to control everything, but yet doesn't have us living in pods yet. It doesn't have us eating the bugs yet, you know, which lets me believe that there are competing, still competing. factions out there but if it is true that the New York FBI office like had all of this stuff if Trump was in there don't shoot you know and Trump could be incriminated in the worst behavior possible I mean you would think that would have came at in either 2016 or in the least last year yeah yeah absolutely I mean it's it's I think it's

designed to elicit a reaction from some other party that they need to react. So in order to believe that this is this is all in up, I mean, you're, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, when I saw, when I saw it happening, it was happening like in real time as I was, I recorded a lot yesterday. And I was doing, I was on Mike Ferris. show and he's just we're just reading this stuff in real time like when that went that one dropped while we were recording and you know it's for somebody who has spent an inordinate amount of time between libertarianism and now around spurks i recognize i recognize Elon musk for being

a Sperg. Yeah. And I don't put that I don't put it past him that that that behavior, that he's capable of that behavior and he just, you know, fucking. Yeah, that's true too.

Yeah. Yeah. That's add in some ketamine and I guess I guess it is a good recipe for a complete crash out. Anyone who doesn't think that he's on the spectrum in some way, shape, or form has never like watched him talk.

Yeah, and, you know, this whole thing with the big beautiful bill, I think this might be kind of an inflection point where a lot of people on the right, I mean, not so much this audience, I think we all kind of know where we stand between the people that value national identity, whether it's race, religion, or culture, versus the techno-commercialist side that. actually, it's in their best interest to be principled fiscal conservatives and to bring, you know, bring the debt down, bring the deficit down, all these things that we know better than to care about on any principled level. This was probably bound to happen. And that's kind of the other side of the tug of war that maybe this isn't the op. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design.

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Well, the interesting thing about this whole thing is that I've been concentrating so much on philosophy and things of a more abstract nature lately that, I mean, I don't really know anything that's in the big, beautiful bill. I mean, I know that there's a lot of economic stuff, but I also know that there's other things in there. And, you know, to the economic thing, what I would say is, I mean, who gives a shit about any of that? I mean, unless you deport like 40 million people.

Yes. If you don't deport 40 million. I mean, people can be, and all it is, the people who are screaming about the economic side of it, these are economic spur, economics, they need to signal that they're correct on how economics works.

And that's all they care about. I'll give them a little more credit in correctly identifying that this government is a parasite and there is no escaping it. And the more you can disrupt and defund, the more capable people like Elon Musk will be to achieve their ends, you know, whether that's mass AI ubiquity or getting us to Mars. or whatever they're, you know, take your pick on fucking sci-fi future, space communism. And so I give them credit with that, yes, in order to achieve, you know, post-scarcity, we're going to need to deal with this Leviathan. But right now, that doesn't matter. Whether we're on a timeline, like you said, we need to deport 40 million people.

And we do not have the logistics. to do that, which brings me to my next point. You want to know what's in this bill? Something that I found very interesting in this bill is, where is it? This is section 60,003, U.S. Customs and Border Protection Technology, vetting activities, and other efforts to enhance board security. I'll just go line by line and give you a dollar value. Artificial intelligence and machine learning, 150 million. Autonomous surveillance technology, 200 million. Data systems

and analytical tools, 100 million. Vetting systems and operations, 200 million. Innovative border technologies, 75 million. So there is a certain organization that is if the pattern tells us anything, this organization is going to get the lion's share. of those budget allocations.

And I think you know who I'm talking about. Are you talking about the P word? I am. Unfortunately, I am. The Talmudic Network sends its regards. Now, I do want to go back. Let's get back to this because this is important. But I do want to go back and say,

when I say the 40 million people need to be deported, I'm not saying 40 million people need to be deported, be deported because we need to save the government. No. We need to save the nation, the polis, the people. Yes. That's what's most important. And, you know, this government can go away.

I mean, you know, talking with Cameron McGregor the other day, who was, you know, been around, done a lot. Military contracting, B.C. kind of stuff. Also, he has a pretty famous father. He, he's, we were talking about succession, about, you know, these groups of young men who realize that if they do not step up and take control of, you know, the people, the, the polis, their area, whatever it is, not even talking about political, talking about if they don't start to build something different, this is all gone. This is all gone.

And, you know, what he predicts and what I pretty much see, especially with how quickly the Old Glory Club has grown and is growing every single day. I mean, beyond anything I could have imagined, you know, two and a half years ago. that it's going to get to the point where groups like ours are popping up already exist and we're going to realize that we basically need each other and we're going to be the only thing that saves it. And I'm, you know, at me, I'm an old guy. I don't. And I'm just doing what I can to rally, you know, sell people to join or die.

and to impart wisdom, try to put the philosophy out there, that, you know, the philosophy of the past that will need to go forward. And, yeah, I mean, that's why when you told me, you know, hey, let's talk about this in the big beautiful bill, I haven't even read the big, I don't know what's in it, mostly because that's just slopped to me. I don't care. doesn't really, it doesn't play into, unless you are going, unless there's something in there

about rail lines and airlines and boats being massively filled and just physically removing people. I don't really have, you know, there, tell me if there's, you know, something dangerous in there to me personally or to my, you know, my people. But, you know, this is interesting because, you know, now that with me saying that you can talk about what we were, the P word. Yeah. And to be clear, I don't have any, any ideological opposition to what Pallentere does for the government. They collate data. They make sure that all these different databases can be searched and scraped by other agents, interagency, co-integration, whatever you want to call it.

They make data more accessible and they make it enabled to be scraped by AI. So for this administration, that's a good thing. For last administration, good thing they were incompetent because that would have been really bad if they weren't. But one thing that's been kind of an argument lately is how do we, well, what is the root cause of not deporting people fast enough? I think we broke a record the other day, something like 3,000 deportations in a day, which if you extrapolate that out, is still nowhere near.

I mean, I've always said 20 million, but if it's 40 million, that's even worse. Nowhere near where we need to be. So those budget line items that I just read, what that is is, is panel. volunteer, integrating their processing power, their compute into the actual hardware of things like facial recognition, drones, the surveillance state that we used to be afraid of and now we don't really care about. Well, now I kind of care about it because not so much from a libertarian perspective, but for the simple reason that all that money should be able, should be going to logistics. Logistics is the bottleneck that's not allowing us to deport 10,000 people a day.

We only have so many, so many resources, so many ice agents, so many buses, planes, boats, everything that you just mentioned. So all that money, I mean, just on a, just from a utility standpoint, we don't need facial recognition. You and I can look at somebody and hear them talk and say they don't belong in the country. Does that make sense to you? I'm interested in your perspective. Yeah, no, it does. And when you talk about logistics, I immediately think of things like, okay, we don't have enough people to do this. Okay, so I just, you know, GROC's, I don't think GROC is, I don't take GROC's word on everything. I mostly use GROC to throw documents in there so I can scrape it.

I use GROC to scrape documents for me. It's pretty much what I do. But I said, how many veterans are there in the United States of America? I said as a 2023, approximately 15.5 million veterans live in the United States representing about 6.1% of these all population. How many of those veterans, you know, that are, you know, still, you know, a lot of these veterans are going to be older. past the age of doing physical work as such.

I'm getting there. Well, how many of them do you think would be willing to volunteer a couple days a week, a couple days a month to help with us? How many do you think that are like maybe? Over 50%. Yeah. Yeah. So there's-

On a community level, over 50%. Absolutely. And my percentage might be low because I live in Massachusetts. and volunteering for to be a stormtrooper, probably would put your life in danger, to be honest. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area

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you know, all you have to do is go to any town in Alabama that has a lot of chicken houses. Or not really, not really like individually owned chicken houses. because I know people who own chicken houses who work them themselves. And if they have to hire somebody, they'll hire somebody for like a day. And normally it's someone they know, someone local that they know. But, you know, when you go up to a town like Albertville, which has, I believe they have a Tyson plant and everything like that, they just bust Mexicans and recently found out in the last year Haitians in there.

So, yeah, I mean, down here in the South, where I think what are the numbers of military that actually go in voluntarily is like, I think it's overwhelmingly from the South, right? Oh, yeah, definitely Texas. I think one out of every four people in my ship was from Texas. Yeah. So you, I mean, this is doable. But once again, what it always comes back to, whether you're advocating for libertarian solutions,

whether you're advocating for, you know, very forceful, you know, I mean, I don't even know what we would call it. I mean, to me, these are logical solutions, is you just have to get people out of here who don't belong here and who are absolutely destroying the country and destroying, you know, the people of the country, you know, driving up the price of everything. Yeah. It comes down to will and who has the will to do it. You know, this whole Palantir thing, I'm not one of those people who's like, oh, well, you know, if you grow the government whenever, you know, and this is a big libertarian line, lull cows talk about this all the time. If you grow the government, you know, the next, your enemy when they get power is just going to use it against you. They're going to use it against you and worse, no matter what. And that's the thing is. And that's what we, you know, we've been saying. And, you know, Mr. Paul,

Fahrenheit, not on yesterday's OGC live stream, but the one from, I think it was May 29th, you know, basically did an 11-minute monologue, not monologue, but, you know, a little speech towards the end. What do they call it the speech at the end? I even asked that on the, if you close out with a speech, close out your thing with a speech, I don't know, whatever, whatever you tack on to the end of it, I'm retarded. And he basically said, look, I mean, if, if this is all great, you can do all this. You can do what you need to do. But if you do not destroy your enemy, they're going to get back in power at some point.

And when they get back in power, they are going to kill you. Especially this. I mean, if the last, if Trump's first four years and the reaction to it and the last four years tell you anything. And then you have them pushing people like Jasmine Crockett or AOC or even Gavin News. I mean, who's like friggin, it looks like he's right out of American Psycho. Well, let me stop you there. Because I have been on this kick where I am in a deep blue state that has highly competent political operatives. I would actually argue that weaponizing bio-Leninism at a state or a local level is a viable path for environments like mine.

where I don't want Mara Healy or Gavin Newsom, who are highly competent political operatives, who are able to wield power effectively, not good, but effectively. Bio-Leninism is something that I've been trying to get certain members of the Massachusetts Republican Party to consider funding the blackest, most transgender. Muslim heroin addict possible to run against these highly effective mostly white people and you how dangerous do you think that is

it's only dangerous if they get caught no I'm not talking about funding it I'm talking about if you actually get that complete you know psychopath in there I mean yeah sure they all right I know where you're going with this I understand by Olinanism you're

looking to get incompetent people in there. But incompetent people have a tendency when their incompetence is revealed or they can't hide it anymore to resort to extreme violence. We saw that in Spain in the 1930s. But that's why I say at a state and a local level. Because at the federal level, yes, you can cause some damage. It's been done before. But at, at a local level. I mean, they get invested, 99% of the time, they're going to end up in an embezzlement case or in a fraud case.

We just had a counselor in Boston, like hire her cousin for a fake job and then get a kickback of like 60 grand a year from the fake salary. So like they cannot help themselves. And that's the people you want in there. You want them to be inundated. You want those systems to be inundated with idiots that cannot help themselves, but to take and not cover their tracks. It's going to, it's going to take some pain for a lot of my neighbors, even people in my family, to lose this old Irish Catholic.

I am a Democrat, no matter what mindset. Well, I mean, what, and we know this will happen. If things get bad enough, I mean, states are not autonomous anymore. They work with the federal government. So if you have somebody, if you have people in Washington who are competent, especially NGOs, people, you know, groups like that, I mean, I don't. But right now, in this. current administration, this would be the perfect time to change tack. We don't want, we don't want competent people that are good at undermining the federal government. We,

you know, Michelle Wu, I know that she looks stupid, but her husband is like, works for, I forget what company like JP Morgan or something, but extremely influential. And, we don't want that. We want a hostile federal administration and an incompetent local administration. Okay. Yeah, I get that. At this point, it's about helping the feds, which is something I never thought I'd say in my lifetime. Yeah, I don't.

That's kind of how I put it to a couple of the state level guys. Like, at this point, we want to help the feds. How does that help? How do you see that working out in the long run? It's not really a long run plan. It's leveraging the opportunity that we have right now with people like Trump and J.D. Vance and Tom Holman, basically just running cover for them while we can by, you know, taking out people that could competently resist them.

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Yeah. I mean, you know, it's hard because you're in Alabama. You're in paradise. Yeah, well, yeah. Well, I mean, we still have a. a governor who is what 80, 90 years old or something like that, who, you know, is, if they put an anti-Semitism bill in front of her, she's probably going to sign it. Yeah. So, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, when I start talking to people like in Montana, and they're like, oh, Bozeman's overrun. Bozeman's been overrun by liberals And you start talking to people like in Idaho And they're like, yeah, more people from California More shit lives from California You're moving here And then you go to you look at like Texas

Which you know, I love Texas Every time I go to Texas I feel like I'm in another country It's pretty fucking awesome But also Texas has some of the worst fucking I mean some of the most evil politicians there I mean

I believe it. In the state, in the state legislature, the Republicans are just evil. I mean, they, I'm not even talking about like, you know, like, oh, you know, like anti-semitism laws. I'm talking about like the left. They'll just like be fine with the left doing stuff. And they'll pass a leftist legislature or, you know, promote it or, you know, whatever they need to do. Stop making so much noise. Yeah.

Just. Mute out of you're going to move around. Expanding Austin until it encompasses the entire state. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I'll go. Let's go to this.

I mean, I just do not see how at any point, at some point in the future, and maybe even in my lifetime, who knows how long that's going to be. that we don't have like violence in this country. And I'm not talking about like, you know, we've had violence. We've seen violence. We've seen, you know, people forget that the summer of the summer of George, it was like 38 to 40 people got murdered in the streets. Yeah.

And a lot of those people were in. A lot of those people were just innocence and, you know, some shop owners. We don't, we don't even talk about that anymore. But I'm talking about like regional, like regional fighting. like regional like militia fighting. And that's if we don't succeed, right, with mass deportation? Or is that despite?

How could it not still happen? You still have a country where, even if you get rid of 40 million people who are, I think there's like 40 million illegals here. If you get rid of all the illegal, you still have what? You still have people who are ideologically motivated, which illegal immigrants aren't.

Right, exactly. So you get rid, you know, you need to get rid of these people just so that, you know, a 25-year-old can afford to buy a fucking house again. Now, I mean, I know there's places like, I mean, I know 20-year-olds that are buying houses, but, you know, they're buying them in locations that are, Yeah, the housing market is still, you can still get a house for $100,000, $120,000.

I'm talking about a nice house. But, you know, you're a little more remote and you're, you know, you're not in a city or close to a city. You're not in a suburb, you know, or you're not in, you know, you're not in the fancy zip code that everybody, that we've been taught that we know, that's where we want to live. And I just don't see how if you have, if people are. so ideologically possessed and especially on the left. I mean, we're talking about deporting 40 million people. We're not, I mean, they're not going to be deporting. If they were able to pull that off, they're not deporting like college professors that were born here. You know, they're, that are, that are literally their families have been here for, you know, three, four hundred years.

You know, there's a lot of people I know who, like, their family's been here for three and four hundred years and they're like firmly on the right who don't even want to accept the fact. that there are like daughters of the American Revolution who are total shit lips. Yes. The Unitarian Universalist Church down the street for me, like right next to my Catholic Church has been, I mean, their pastor or reverend or whatever the hell they're called is like Mayflower Society. So, you know, it's, this is where I kind of, this is where I, I start to disagree with the more

racialist wing is how do you solve for that? And the answer is it can't just be, well, you're get rid of the Jews. The Jews made them this way. So you're demonetized now. Oh, I'm demonetized anyway. But I mean the yeah, I mean, people don't realize that all the people who are like, well, you know, it's you have to, we have to get every Jew to leave the country. And then, you know, we get, it's like their mentality that they've brought, you know, that they've inserted into our culture for the last hundred years, it's, it's there. You can, they could be removed theoretically. I'm not calling for that anyone who's listening. And you're still going to have to deal with the fact that you're You still have usury.

Yes. You still have a central bank. You still have... Sexual liberation. You still have... Yeah. So you're talking about, you know, people think that it's going to be like, oh, well, you know, we just have to do the Turner Diaries.

Or it's just absolutely a complete race war. And you're going to have the day of the rope. And it's like... Yeah. That's that, I mean, that's like libertarians. stuff. That's like it's one of the reasons why I can't deal with libertarians because you have to look at things realistically and figure out how you're going to deal with things realistically. And someone and you know, anyone who's screaming right now, well, that's the only way we're

going to survive. Well, that's the, to me, you're just like, you know, a libertarian or a narco-capitalist screaming. Oh, we just got to end the state, bro. If we have anarchy, everything will be good because it's just as realistic. Yeah, that's been one of my, I mean, I am on that bus all the way. To me, racialism is more utility. I accept the science, but I don't accept the spirituality of it. Yeah, it's really made into a religion and it's not. No.

It's not. Man, we started off on talking about Palantir and then got all the way to race war. All right. So, yeah, really. So, all right, Palantir. I mean, the way I look at it is, and here's what I was saying, not to sound like a lull cow, but if you don't destroy your enemies, I mean, that's just going to, they can. Yeah, that's the problem I have when libertarians say that is, is me, when I see an increase, when I think to myself, need an increase in power to do certain things, One, I'm like, it doesn't really bother me because, I mean, the, when it's like, oh, the left will just, you know, use it. It's like, left will do something anyway. They'll increase their power anyway. And they're much better at it than the people who get elected on the quota, who, you know, we assume are right-wingers who are really just actually liberals and classical liberals and, you know, James Lindsay types. And, you know, fought and sold by the Israel.

lobby or whatever lobby. They're tied to could be some... They have to be due for realignment. I mean, James Lindsay and all those, all those people,

like, what's their shelf life, really? I mean, I don't see them having any influence whatsoever, even in the next two or three years. Well, yeah, I mean, they don't have any influence. I don't think they have influence at all. I don't think they're influencing anything.

I don't think anyone in power is listening to them. But it still stands to reason that the ideology that they're promoting is pretty much held as like the ideology of the United States. That's who we are. And they don't realize that that's not the ideology of like the founding. It's the ideology of the Civil Rights Act. And James Litt. Yeah. And people like James Lindsay and the Jans.

and the Joel Berries of the world, they know that. That's why Joel Barry, you know, when he's debating Dave the distributist, Dave's distributist asked him, were the founders racist? Joel Barry has to say no. I mean, he literally said no. He was making out, he literally said there were like some of the greatest civil rights, you know, proponents of all time. They didn't really want to hold slaves.

No. They had a black best friend. I mean, it just makes no sense. And really, what does what does racist mean back then? They realize that there are differences between the races and that they shouldn't be, if there are going to be, if there is going to be a different race than the white European Protestant race in the United States, they're going to have to be subjected. They're going to have to be, you know, under the thumb of a group. And I mean, people even understood that up until even after the war. And once you got past reconstruction. The consensus for the founders was, you know, if they cared about it at all, was to ship them to Liberia or that, you know, that type of mechanism was to, you know,

we'll solve the slavery problem by shipping all the African slaves back to Africa. Yeah. You know, it was nowhere near what it is now. Yeah, which is interesting. It's like now people are like, well, you know, what we have to do is we have to ship blacks back to Africa. We need to get, you know, we need to get them out of the country. And while I do understand that, you know, I understand black crime statistics, I get it, man. And, you know, it's, if one thing that's really come to the forefront in the last few months is, you know, the fact that more and more people,

are revealing the fact that they have been in fatigue yep you're not you're not getting rid of them you know it's like you're you're not you can do things to make I don't even know if you do things to make them self-deport yeah no I mean I mean they're just here and you're gonna have to figure out a way to deal with it and the only real way to deal with that is you have to have segregation yeah segregate well I mean, yeah. Either probably informal, like informal segregation. And also you have to have the,

I think you have to have the attitude that a lot of them are children, and they need to be treated as such. Yeah. And that has to be openly accepted in the culture. Yeah. I mean, if you can have a program that turns them all into Clarence Thomas, I mean, that's a solution too, but again, like, the racialists has rather just killed them. And I don't really like that.

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like that, you know, if... Yes, that has to be part of that program. I mean, it's almost a eugenic problem. Yes. Yeah, and there's no, there's really no way of getting around it at this time. There's no way of getting past it. So, you know, you have, so to circle back, like your girl used to say, we, the issue is it always goes back to Will.

and, you know, I've never been, I've, I've been one of these people who threw out the whole run last year. I was noticing things and I was reporting on things and I was saying, well, this could actually be better for our guys. I've, and I don't think the whole, like, time and, you know, maybe people can go back and try to find my words when I said this. I don't think I was ever saying, you know, we're trying to save the government. I think we were trying to make things better for our people. And if the PayPal Mafia turns out to be, you know, this whole thing about Palant here, and, you know, they are pro-Israel, well, then fuck them. But I still come back to the fact that, you know, there are still people out there who will say,

you know, they really wish Kamala would have won. to which, you know, I say, you know, I think you're... How does that solve the Palantir problem? Well, how does... Well, I mean, yeah, well, look who would have control of Palantir. I mean, they would be doing business with the government still. They could... They're just selling it in a different way.

The people that are saying maybe that would be better if Kamala had one are the same people that view Palantir and the PayPal Mafia as the major threat ahead of everything else. So to me, like, I know the type of person you're talking about, and that's, I don't know. I think they need to, I think they need to percolate a little longer before they start talking about politics. Yeah, well, these are also the same people that believe if they just get their guy elected president, that, you know, he can change everything.

he'll have the will he'll have the will to change everything well i mean um we don't want to save this government no that's not our goal is not to save this government and as many you know as many boomer-brained and that doesn't mean that they have to be you know part of the boomer generation i'm saying boomer brain as they've, you know, bought into the whole boomer, um, boomer truth regime as, as a, I like that. I like that terminology a lot.

Then, you know, basically you're saying that you agree with them. It's just that you agree with them that we need this government. It's just the government's going to be, you can make the government a lot better if it's you. Like you're going to go in there and you're going to fire like 2.2.

Like I said, you know, Trump needed to go in there on the first day and fire 2.2 million people. You know, like literally like 2.2 million people. I had like the whole, you know, the departments and everything listed. And it's like, yeah, you just need to get rid of all this. You know, the state department is now Trump and two advisors on Zoom or, you know, streamyard talking to, you know, leaders of other countries around the world. you don't need all of these the managerial state

how do you destroy the managerial state well I mean most people don't even know what the managerial state is so how do you people most people don't know that a lot of these people are so naive is to believe that there won't be somebody in the inner circle ready to put a knife in your back or more realistically a bullet in your brain Yeah, as we've seen.

Yeah. So, I mean, the only way that I see out of this is groups of basically building what comes next. And I think that's always what it's been because this is a dying system. The reason the system doesn't work anymore is it can't work. No one can make it work. It's obsolete. It's, you can't know one, no one in history, in the history of this world could govern 325 million people.

Yeah. And I think the tech bros know that. I think we know that. The tech bros know that. And even, I mean, even some of the libertarians know that. But now it's just a matter. I just don't want to live. I don't want to live in the society.

they want to build. No, absolutely not. I don't want to live in the TechBrow Society either. No. No. No being. So, so Palin's here.

Do you think, you know, what I said on the, on the stream last night is what what a lot of people on this side of the Great Divide, as Zeman would call it, you know, would worry about is that the fact that right now they're going,

after you know shitlibs and progressives and commies on campuses and everywhere who are being accused of anti-Semitism some of them may be literal anti-Semites some of them just may want Israel to stop doing what they're doing but yeah I'm interested in your thoughts on that is is there a utility argument to that you know let them go after anti-Semitism as long as it harms people we hate well it's that whole thing of okay so when it when did they come for us yeah yeah will they well i mean that's the question yeah i mean i don't know if you saw there was a zero hedge article that was this i think it was released yesterday yeah it was yesterday it was dated the fifth

and basically said that trump had fired three of the biggest zionist in the administration. I'll pull up the article real quick. Yeah, I know Mike Walts is out, and then I saw that it's somebody in, is it a treasury or the SEC or something? So says here, this is from Zero Hedge yesterday, via the cradle between late May and early June

and what insiders call and America First Course Correction, U.S. President Trump has been removing key pro-Israel hardliners from his foreign policy team. He is reported targeting individuals known for their militaristic views on Iran and deep alignment with Israeli policy, often in ways critics say undercut broader U.S. strategicals. Such individuals include National Security Council officials, Eric Trager, Marev, Saren, and Morgan Ortegous. The purge comes after Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar in May, a trip that notably bypassed Israel. So, you know, according to sources familiar with the changes, the president is looking to replace outgoing officials with voices, and this is going to make some people just completely spurg out, but I'll say it anyway. with voices more aligned with Vice President J.D. Vance's anti-interventionist stance

in an effort to reassert White House control over West Asia policy and curb Israel's internal influence on U.S. decision-making. Former National Security Advisor Mike Walts was among the first to be pushed out after reports that he had coordinated with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyahu on a potential preemptive strike against Iran without the approval of the United States. So they will never They will never let us extricate ourselves from the Middle East We want to pivot to China so bad

But they will never let us go Well it's so I mean the pivot to China I don't want war with China Obviously I mean I don't I don't want war with anybody Unless you know they have You absolutely have to But you know China controls so much

of manufacturing, even for the smallest little items we can't build bombs with. We can't build planes with. I mean, that has to come home. And, you know, you just don't, you know, you don't know what to, you don't know how they're going to do it. You don't know, you know, I mean, here's a way it has to happen and people don't want to hear this. You have to do what the Austrian painter did.

You have to start nationalizing things. You have to open, you have to build factories that are national factories and here, this is where we're going to build. It's why Russia can be in this war and grind down Ukraine the way they are, is they make their own stuff. Yeah, there's no profit and loss statement that you have to worry about. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital and shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November.

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Is a slave to another country. Is a slave to whoever does? One of the things in this article has said is, Mayor of Sarin's removal drew particular attention, given her well-known ties to Israel's military, before her role as national security, what is that thing? in the National Security Council. She had worked with Israeli's Ministry of Defense and was closely linked to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,

FD, a Washington think tank known for its hardline stance in Iran, and vocal support for Israeli military campaigns in Lebanon. We literally have, I mean, we have spot. How do you think that this, how do you think this government gets fixed? How does anybody think that this gets fixed? You think she's it? You think you get rid of all these people that there aren't people there who they don't, who aren't working behind the scenes, who aren't as vocal, who didn't work, who aren't,

you know, they don't have pictures of, you know, that they don't have pictures of like all of these people, fucking kids or watching kiddie porn or just watching porn for some people. I mean, it's, you can't fix this. I just don't get people it's so funny that you the same people who will say no the United States has to keep going in the way it is right now you know it's like Cameron McGregor said something the other day that Stormy has been saying he's saying really when it comes down to it the United this country the name not the country but the nation was growing and it got stunted and it got stopped and it basically hasn't been able to become the polis that it was meant to be. But you can actually look at this country as still being young when you look at like empires in the past. Like we can actually not the government, but the nation itself, the people, the polity, can actually keep going and can improve and can flourish and we can have a high culture again.

A portion of us can. Yes, that's the whole point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that will eventually happen. There needs to be a categorical attitude shift in these up-and-coming people younger than you and I even, in how they view their role as citizens,

as members of their community. And like you said, that is extracted from the past. It's as forgotten as it is. People need to, people, the people that do put in the effort to remember it and to emulate it are, and I think you've mentioned this before, going to be like a parallel society. Well, it has to be because this Washington isn't going to die. You know, the government isn't going to die.

It'll weaken. It'll transform. It'll, but it's not going to transform into anything good. No. Because, I mean, and like I said again, you cannot have a central government for 350 million people. No. It's what Sam Francis talked about in Leviathan and its enemies. It's a revolution of mass and scale.

You cannot scale it. It just can't scale. It's impossible. Anybody who thinks that it is possible is suffering from hubris. Can you even have a founding mythos for 350 million people? How? How? I mean, it's, you know, I don't really, I don't really try to hold on to the past at all.

I mean, I know where I came from. and I know that the flag, the flag behind this has Spanish colors in it. But that's the flag of Alabama. That's the St. Andrew's Cross. You know, the only reason. It's interesting. Yeah. The only reason I do that is because I realize that, you know, that flag is, the flag that is flown outside of every government bill.

Is a government flag. And I have no problem with it, but I have a problem with what it's become. Yeah. You know, it meant something at one point, especially when it had a lot fewer stars on it. Yeah. It meant something. And I just, you know, was like, all right, until we can figure out what this is, I'm going to fly my own flag. Yeah.

And your family means something. Your neighbors mean something. Your town might mean something. but, you know, it's the further, the further that concentric circle expands, the less it means. Yeah. And the people who remember that are going to be the ones that succeed. Yeah, and I mean, I consider myself to be a part of the nation. I consider myself to be a part of, I consider myself to be grafted into the founding stock of the nation.

And I've had people from the founding stocks say I that they consider that too. They consider that I've done that that, you know, that I have no place else to go. Where the fuck am I going to go? I've tried to live in other countries. I always come back here. Why? Yep. This is where I'm from.

This is me and I don't know anything else. I don't know how to be anything other than an American. Yeah. I just, I don't. I've tried. And, yeah, I mean, I'm. mean, when you, until this can get, until we can figure out the way forward. And I mean, I think the way forward is smaller groups and it really changing the way people,

looking to change the way people think, have a, have a feeling of inclusiveness in that group. that you're a part of this group. And an appreciation for a common heritage. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it almost seems at this point like we're looking to the past of what this nation was at one point. And we're taking the trying to bring the best parts of that and understanding that there are certain parts of that you just don't work anymore because of, because of technology, how things have changed, how people think, how people have even evolved through the technological revolution, and the technological revolution keeps going.

But you take things from the past, and you take the best things from the past, and you apply it, and you bring it forward, and you build something new. basically, but the new thing is built on the best parts of what we used to be and what we used to understand we were, if that makes sense. Yeah, and I guess, you know, the inevitable part of that is to expect and be very forceful when people who's, who has, who have a vested interest in making sure that that doesn't happen, realize what you're doing, and realize that you're being successful. Sure. And you're, you know, that's why planning is important.

But you also, you know, it's a fine line to walk in that I want things to get cheaper. And I want, you know, I want money to, I want money to mean more. I know the Bitcoin, Bitcoin bros are like, oh, you know, we just need Bitcoin and everything like that. Okay. I mean, you're going to need someone in power with the will to make that happen. I don't know who that is. So in the meantime, I want my people to thrive.

And so that means I want the money to be, I want the money to be stronger and worth more. But I also understand that at the same time, I want this government to go away. And in that, there's a dichot, you know, there's a contradiction there. Well, there's a contradiction there. If the money gets better and gets stronger, then, you know, the government can get a little more, and get more power and get back, maybe get back on its feet. but you know when it comes to you i just i don't think that it understanding that it can't scale it's yeah it's bound it's bound to fail you know the medium of exchange in the store of

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Yeah, Palantir has been doing their thing for a while. And, you know, I'm looking at my notes right now. Let's see. I mean, I was talking about it. Oh, you know what? Go ahead. So part of the big, beautiful bill is a moratorium on states regulating AI for 10 years. You know, bringing it back to Palantir getting all this money for AI and machine learning

and integration with surveillance and immigration enforcement hardware. Combined that with the moratorium on nobody's allowed to regulate AI for 10 years except for the feds. What that tells me is that this current administration is supremely confident in the next election. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I guess the problem with that is is what are they doing on the state level to make sure the elections can't be stolen again

on the state level I mean I guess like anything else it depends on the state but I can tell you that that my state is everything's fine the elections are certified relatively quickly And I can guarantee you that it's going to be about 80-20 Ds and ours. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's more like 60-40, but, you know. The thing is, is that you, you know, like I think DeSantis redistricted and reconfigured Florida in such a way, gerrymandered it in such a way that it's almost impossible for a Democrat to win the

governorship now. Yep. Or at least that's the way he's done it until, you know, the next crackhead gets elected in Florida because Florida can be stupid. Florida man, Florida man is very real. Yep. Sometimes holds elected office. But when you, but when, you know, you look around and the states are in charge of

their own election. then that's that you know that's a problem you know i mean Pennsylvania you know one of the things that it's because five years ago oh i mean like five months ago or six months ago there was an election and one of the things that you know we were saying about Pennsylvania was one of the reasons why i didn't think they would turn on the voting machine, you know, turn on the cheating machines to steal the election was that people like Josh Shapiro want to run for president in 2028. And if Kamala Harris would have won, that means she would have pretty much just been default, you know, 2028 candidate. You know, some people will tell

you that the reason they weren't turned on is because they want Trump to be president because, you know, Trump is going to oversee the downfall of the country. or the Jews planned all this in every single, you know, that this was all the Jews. But, you know, we still have to, people, I think people assume right now that if Trump gets enough accomplished over the next four years to make his base happy

that J.D. Vance will just be president in 2028 and 2032. And I always go, I always go back to the voting machines. And it's like, well, if they turn on the cheating machines again, it'd be pretty easy to make sure that that doesn't happen. So. Well, there's not only electoral implications, but there's also just, you know,

no regulation on AI in general, other than the, or I should say, the Fed federal regulation supersedes the state for at least 10 years. What that tells me is that they want to build data centers and they don't want zoning laws getting in the way. I think Thomas Massey mentioned that as like a critique. I don't really care about that. But also that in the context of immigration enforcement, they do not want the states to pull the sanctuary city bullshit and be able to put in any type of noncompliance on the state level.

Well, one of the things that, from what I understand, listening to, you know, some podcasts on AI and listening to some of the AI people talk, is that AI is going to scale up to the point where the power grid's not going to be able to handle it anymore. So we're also going to have to deal with the fact that they're talking about nuclear power, needing nuclear power to run these. Substations. Nuclear, nuclear substations for individual facilities. Yeah. So that's interesting. That also puts, to me, that that's also something that will be handled at the federal level. That won't be, they won't allow the states to get involved in that. So does that lead to, if you're doing that for AI, and does that lead to them federalizing more and more and more at the state level? Yeah, that's a good question. You know, what will the landscape look like in terms of, you know, I guess funding at the state level? I mean, that completely circumvents any need for the state to ask for funds if it's all in the feds.

Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot to chew on. And I don't know. I don't really know how I feel about that because I would like to not have a data center down the street. for me, but at the same time, I know it's probably going to happen anyways. Yeah, it's kind of hard to not see that the future, where the future is going, if there isn't some kind of state revolt, revolt at the state level.

Yeah. Against, you know, the Fed's doing these things. And the crazy thing about it is, is that, you know, this is one of the, things that you could you could say one of the reasons people would want Trump in there is is that if the states started to rebel even red states Trump's base is so diehard that they would call those they would call those states traders and you know legitimize the reaction yeah yeah so and that's why politics works you know it's so I hate having to say this to people and I hate having to remind people of this because you know once you start

talking once you start talking about how the way real way politics works people you know they immediately start to jump to terms like cope and stuff like that but politics is the the average person even you know especially like the average anon and we love our nons don't we of course He's me. A lot of them just don't know how things work and how things operate. There are a lot of nons out there and no more than me. But that's, I mean, I'm not going to say a lot. There are some.

Give yourself some credit. Well, I mean, I get to, people tell me stuff in the background. So, you know, tell me stuff that's happening in the background. And then it happens. But. and I don't go public with it because I want people to keep telling me stuff in the background. Oh, yeah. Because that's the way politics works.

You know, just to use an example of how politics works. But, you know, the way politics works is that you, one of the ways it works is that you get people to, someone gets elected, you see that they have a rabid base, and then you do everything you possibly can to suck up to that person in power so that you can get something done that normally people would be like, ah, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know whether it's anti-Semitism laws, whether it's federalizing, you know, AI data centers, the power that's going to take to control it, federalizing a police force to, you know, for mass deportations, things like that.

Things that, you know, historically, a lot of Americans would have been like, yeah, it seems like an overreach. But because it is, and I'm not saying that any of these things are bad, mind you, I don't even have a, I'm just bringing up things that are, that I'm thinking off the top of my head

that I think are very important, but I really don't know if I have a position, I haven't really formed a position on them yet. But, yeah, I mean, And if you have someone with a strong base and you can get them to do things that normally, you know, a president wouldn't do. And especially like a, a quote-unquote Republican president, then, you know, that's pretty damn intelligent, pretty smart. But that's politics. And, you know, I think that a lot of things can be, we live in an age where an act.

average person on Twitter who has a decent size following can get retweeted by bigger accounts. And it can, whatever they're talking about can make its way to the ears of power and actually have an effect. But I have a tendency to believe that those changes won't happen unless they may have already been considered? Yep. You know, that I don't think you're going to change, you know, you're not going to, you know, this pivot to Asia that they want so bad.

At this point, I don't think there's anything that an Anon or someone on Twitter can do to prevent that. People in power can prevent it by, you know, false flagging and starting a war with Iran. or something like that. But I think, you know, I think the Anon can do things or the person on Twitter can do things that can actually cause change, you know, cause the government to act. But I don't think it's going to be something that they'll do that will go against what, you know, what was already planned in some way, shape, or form. Yeah. Yep.

you know, it's just legitimizing things that they already, we're already on the docket to begin with within, within that probability cone that existed prior. You know, if, was that cone or Cohen? Well, the pivot to Asia, yeah. Might be con. That was good. Well, I know you have a hard out, so let's check out. Oh, I saw somewhere that there was like a new Boys Town with Aaron episode, but you're actually like going to change.

It's not going to be Boys Town with Aaron episode. And then I listened to it and I'm like, that's not a Boys Town with Aaron episode. And he's just, he's just fooling us and he's lying again. No, I did have to retire that. program, I set out to fundamentally change podcasting. And after four episodes, I think I achieved my goal. I, uh, the news is dead. TLE no longer does the news anymore. And that's really all I wanted. That's just insane. How a bird is like the number one news man in America. How, how can you do that? Oh, it's, it's easy. I just, uh,

You know, hustle, loyalty and respect. All right, man. Promote what you want. Yeah. You can find me at A underscore underscore returns on X.com. And you can see me or hear me every Wednesday on Timeline Earth. That every Wednesday gets me every time. Every single Wednesday, man.

without fail. All right, man. Thank you. Appreciate you. Yeah, thanks for having me on.