The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1256: A Long, Strange Journey w/ Michael Rectenwald

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

89 MinutesPG-13Michael Rectenwald is a former academic and the author of several books on the network of groups who vie for power to rule over the people.Michael joins Pete to discuss his journey from Marxist academic to where he is now. He talks about the PAC he has formed, AZAPAC, which seeks to promote anti-Zionist candidates while pushing to remove pro-Zionist politicians.Michael on Twitter/XMichael's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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for a whole bunch of dental reconstruction I'm having. So wait until, let's see how I'm talking on Friday night when I have a scheduled recording on Friday night. Um, yes, this is the Peking on a show and this is Michael Rectinwald. Are you doing, Michael? I'm doing well. Thanks. Good to be here.

At last, I should say, I've been waiting for an invitation for you from years for years. You've been on the show before. No, never. Yes, you have. I have. Yeah. Oh, no kidding. Talking about W.F.

Oh, no kidding. Okay. Sorry about that. I, you know, I've done so many. No. I forget. I have people who are. who I'm interviewing and I'm like, my friend, not me, not you the other day, a couple weeks ago.

I'm like, hey, come on. First time on. He's like, I was on like three months ago. Yeah. So this is your journey from where I first, I guess I first heard about you in 2017. So why don't you tell everybody your journey to what's today, the August 20th, 20th. 2025. Okay. Yeah, that's, it's been a long and winding road. Shall we say that, in 2016, let me just give you a slight recap. In 2016, in the fall of 2016, or in the late

summer of 2016, I was still a Marxist. By October, I had already transitioned to a libertarian and voted for Trump. And so, yeah, I mean, you know, having gone through academia and all that, I was in a, you know, I went through a PhD program and a master's program in English. And in the course of that process, you know, got turned into a Marxist. You know, I can't really explain how it happened except that. there's kind of an unspoken requirement amongst in academia, especially in that field, English, that you're some sort of leftist or other. And Marxism seemed to make the most sense to me because, you know, I hail from a working class background and I had a chip on my shoulder for sure.

and, you know, a sort of class chip, as it were. And so, you know, I became sort of like a Marxist theorist, and this was just an avocation. It's not like I taught Marxism at NYU. I taught courses in whatever, all kind of stuff. Mostly 19th century British science and culture. I started to specialize in secularism as a movement that started in the mid-19th century. And I wrote about that stuff, taught about it, and taught cultural history, academic writing, things like that.

And as an avocation, I was a Marxist and writing papers, you know, theoretical papers on Marxism and publishing in Marxism. journals and things like that. And then 2016 happened, and I already saw the writing on the wall coming down the pike with the kinds of woke or whatever you want to call it, impendiums that were pending at the university. And they started to really get quite egregious. Let me just, let me interrupt for a second. Like, I mean, I've studied marks.

I've studied Lenin. I've studied the Bolsheviks. I've studied what they believe, at least what they wrote that they believed. Yeah. That has nothing to do with what we know is wokeism. That comes later under the Marxist banner, right? Yeah, I mean, look, the only thing that wokeism really adopts from Marxism is what I will call the oppressor-oppressed dyad. And that there's an oppressor class and an oppressed class.

In Marxist terms, it's put in economic, it's an economic terms. In the woke culture, it's identity, basically, various identity groups claiming oppressive oppression status or oppressed status as against the oppressors. And I hope we get into this woke rag nonsense too, because I want to talk about that. Oh, yeah, we can talk about that. I mean, the guy's making himself pretty much irrelevant, and is irrelevance already, but it is a good, it's a good thing to look at because it's a really good picture of somebody who's on the left pretending to be somebody who's on the right by attacking the right.

James Lindsay, you mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm not a fan of James Lindsay. I should start off by saying that he plagiarized my books, springtime for snowflakes. That is, he took an idea or exact expression, at least apparently took it because no one else had used it before, and then he appropriated it without acknowledgement.

I call that plagiarism. Now, he may not have read my books. He said he hasn't. But I still think if you're writing in a particular discourse, you should know what the hell's gone on in that discourse before you start writing. and you should know what's been said. And I already had coined the phrase that postmodernism is practical. I'm sorry, that social justice is practical postmodernism.

And he picked that up and went with it. But anyway, James Lindsay and the woke writing, yeah, we could get into that. But, yeah, I'd say the woke figuration is just simply the oppressor-oppressed dyad, plus it's an inversion of the so-called, you know, supposed social hierarchy so that the bottom becomes the top and the top becomes the bottom. This is the object so that the oppressed effectively assume a position of oppression over the others, although they would never say that. That's what it really amounts to.

And likewise, you know, they use all these tactics, a cry bullying and all that in order to beat up their opponents and establish their own status, really, as the new, you know, as the new dominant group. So that's what these woke people do. But yeah, so I started to criticize all this, and I did it as a Marxist at first. I was writing and speaking about this as a Marxist, and I did this interview with the New York University student newspaper, the name of which escapes me at the present. I haven't taught there for quite a while now since 2019. But that interview went viral.

It was picked up by the New York Post, and the story became national news. I was ostracized at NYU very severely after the interview I gave to the New York University newspaper in which I basically said that they were making, you know, I said one of the things I said was that they are making the alt-right possible. They were actually producing the alt-right by virtue of their own identity politics, that it was going to now. be countered by another identity politics. And that's the identity politics of, you know, of the alt-right, which is, you know, white male, nationalist, et cetera. I said they were producing their opponents. And I said a lot of other things.

And anyway, they were outraged. Immediately within two days of that interview appearing, I was called into the dean's office, and I was assured that the meeting had nothing to do. with my interview in the newspaper, but then he came up, then he started off talking about that immediately. They brought the head of human resources into that meeting and effectively coerced me into a leave of absence, which I took, frankly, anything to get out of New York, I welcomed, to be honest. But Wikipedia says that it was my idea, but that's absurd because I hadn't the dean called me into the office and began pressuring me to take leave of the absence saying that they were concerned about my mental well-being, my mental health.

You had to be crazy to criticize this stuff, I suppose, and I guess I was. Let me just ask real quick, because I don't remember. Did you have tenure at the time? I was in a program that had rank, but no tenure. So I was a full professor by this point. or actually I was up for full professorship. That was a key factor, actually, because I thought, if I don't take the leave, maybe they won't give me the full professorship,

which I really deserved. But I did get that. After the leave actually took place, or during that leave, I got the promotion to full professor. And that's not just a ranking thing. It's about money. I needed to make more money in New York.

It's a very expensive place to live. And so they gave me the full professor rank, but they had isolated me on campus. They pushed me into a different department. I was in a global liberal studies program. They pushed me into an office in the Russian department, which I like to say, was basically relegating me to my own personal gulag because they they wouldn't move my books,

they wouldn't give me secretarial support, they wouldn't even give me a phone. It was like bare metal shelves and totally treated as a pariah on campus. It was an uncomfortable situation. So then, you know, these professors that came after me, it wasn't students, it was professors that came after me and then the administration backed them up, they sent all these scathing emails about me towards the end of the term after I came back from leave, at the very end of the term, actually. And they, in that, those series of emails,

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oh, I don't want to be called a racist, a Nazi, a short pants white devil sexist misogynist all that shit i didn't really at that time i still cared like what these kind of people thought and so that got me very upset i sued the university and these professors for defamation and libel uh Wikipedia says the case was thrown out but that's not true i settled they can't ever get things right i settled with n y you, they gave me a cash settlement plus full retirement benefits. So it wasn't like I lost. They knew that there was something in my case that if it went further,

wouldn't have been nice because there was so much discrimination against me on the basis of my gender and race. Because they treated these assailants with total kid gloves, let them go on and on for days and days ripping on me in public, on NYU official list serves and never stepped in and said this is out of bounds or they never admonished or otherwise to chastise these people or you know disciplined them anything they basically let them go wild and they did they went wild for a long time it was like a week of crap and that so I sued them in that case got settled and uh

I recognize in the process of this that the left in general, whatever you want to call them now, I really don't care for left-right stuff, but they were totalitarians at base. I recognized this and said I wanted nothing further to do with them at all. I left to left, as it were, and I instantly recognized that effectively I was at least a civil libertarian in a sense that I believe, and the use of one's own speech, the right to free speech and individual rights was pretty important. That that comes well before any kind of utopian society. In fact, without it, you can't have anything resembling even a decent, non-oppressive situation. So I recognize that.

And then, you know, at that time, I was doing all these TV appearances, and it was Fox News and all that. That all, of course, is gone since, you know, I came out against Israel. But, yeah, so then I ended up becoming a libertarian. And then I was asked by the, this is the worst day of my life. I wish this never happened. The Mises Caucus, the head of the Mises Caucus, Michael Heist called me. I was at Hillsdale College at the time, preparing to give a lecture on the Great Reuters, reset, which they were paying me handsomely for very much, very handsomely, just to talk for an hour.

And he asked me if I wanted to run for president. I'm like, president of what? He said, of the United States. I'm like, what are you talking about, man? He said, we need somebody to run as a liberal, you know, the Mises caucus needs its presidential candidate. I had heard about, you know, that the, that the, that the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the first choice was Dave Smith. And, you know, I, you know, I knew I wasn't their first choice. But it nevertheless sort of struck a, it sort of flattered me to be honest that I thought, well, this could be interesting. And I decided to do it. Worst decision I ever made in my whole life. I mean, I can't. Party politics, huh? You got the party politics. Well, first of all,

I got attacked by all these libertarians and right off the top coming at me with all these gripes. You know, I didn't realize the extent of which this Mises caucus had effectively alienated half the party, at least, and how they were hated. And then all that vitriol got directed towards me. Like, I was this Mises caucus ogre, you know. And so that was uncomfortable. and I, you know, then I was dealing with certain other candidates like Josh Smith, a real asshole, uh, and, and some others. Uh, and then, you know, I was still even after I struggled at first with that's just more inter-party and inter-coccus politics. It's an interneasing garbage. And, uh, you know,

I've come around really, we'll get to this, I suppose, you know, more towards your position. about, you know, the hyper individualism of libertarianism, which leaves you pretty much defenseless against groups who act in unison, who act with intent and accord, you know. And you can't prove that they do, but except you can see the traces of it. And until they, every once in a while, just absolutely tell you that they do it. Yeah. They'll just come out and they'll write a book and be like, here, look what we did.

And it's like, so I'm only allowed to celebrate that right. If I criticize that, I'm going to get in trouble, right? Exactly. And after the, you know, the way the thing went down at the Libertarian Party convention was unfortunate. I got drugged the day before the vote by a guy who I, thought was giving me a, uh, uh, a CBD gummy. It turned out to be 100 milligrams of THC. And I was supposed to speak right after Trump. And I had made no fucking sense at all. None. Uh, I could, I could see that. Although, although, although when you consider what half the

crowd was like probably there, what half the crowd there was probably like, uh, uh, what half the crowd there was probably like, you might have made all the sense in the world to them because they were probably as high as you were. Possibly, yeah. But somebody yelled out from the audience, how high are you? And I was like, oh, shit. I don't know, where do I go with this? I said, not high enough, you know, something like that. Anyway, the decision was made just to own it. And but at the last, I've won the first five rounds of voting anyway by a long shot. And then this guy, Mike Tremont, the cop, cop turned libertarian, so-called.

He threw his weight behind Chase Oliver, the transgender advocate who was running a LGBTQIAA plus campaign under a libertarian cloak. Michael, let's be honest. That really is a better represent. He really is a better representation of libertarianism. Somebody who's going to be able to talk about economics and hopper and, you know, and localism. That's, no, they want to hear about queer shit.

Yeah, Iran is a hopian. A lot of the people in the party hated that, not a lot, you know, all but the Mises people and a few others. They hated that. They said it was bigotry and all this shit. You know, I was called a bigot and all that. And, yeah, that guy threw his weight. by becoming the VP candidate for Chase Oliver, and then his people, he had been just knocked out in the round before.

His people, of course, segregated to him behind Chase Oliver, so I lost the final vote after winning five rounds. And, you know, that was hard to live down. Do you remember what, do you remember before you even, like, before the convention and like six months before that, me being on the phone with you and going, Mike, make this all about Israel and Zionism. Just run as a libertarian talking about Israel and Zionism. And it's like, no, no.

I wish you would have, man. It would have been. I actually did for towards the end there. I was really harsh on, you know, what happened after October 7th, you know, or, you know, we know it all. That's not the beginning of history by any stretch. but well we knew that they were going to commit a genocide and I'd never believe the whole story of October 7th. I still don't, of course. That was really, you know, a setup.

But yeah, there were things you can't say as a candidate. It's a problem, you know. I'm not a, I should say, I'm not like a political personality and as such. I'm a thinker and I say whatever the hell. I think. And you can't do that as a candidate because these people want, you know, programmatic answers. And I, you know, I wouldn't give them usually. But, yeah, that was stupid. I mean, it was really stupid. I lost the Hillsdale Fellowship over that. So the call that came while I was at Hillsdale actually ended up knocking me off of that. And that, you know, I needed to

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something that libertarians talk about, freedom of association. The problem is you're not allowed to, they're all about freedom of association away from right wingers. Yes. But as soon as you talk about freedom of association from a right wing point of view, then you, you're a Nazi. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I was called. I was called a Nazi by these party people.

I guess, you know, there's so many of these factions within that party. It's absurd. But the fakertarians and the whole nine yards. Those are just those are just those are the people that got you kicked out of NYU. Basically, yeah. The same people. They're the same people. So, you know, they are.

and they are establishment hacks, really. You know, they just, like, they just repeat establishment charges against people. The same kinds of shit I got from the left. In fact, I would say the shit I got from NYU professors and the left, when I left the left, was less, I should say, less surprising and also less, it was, it was like less in intensity than the,

than the crap I was getting from these libertarians who I thought would be more amenable to my ideas and the Hoppian views but no they were I was a big edit and all this you know because you know yeah well think about it okay so you know you already already mentioned the hyper individualism and how detrimental that is to to fight against groups to hold off groups that are coming together so that they can have concerted power and collective power. And that's the way everybody, that's the way every political or,

let's say, community organizing type of group works, except libertarians. So I know there's a faction of libertarians that are, you know, like we're about localism. Let's, you know,

we're about private property. We're about exclusion. We're about freedom of association. For whatever reason. race, creed, color, no matter what. But really, when it comes down to it, libertarians, you know, it's like, I mean, I don't even want to say herding cats. It's not like hurting cats. It's more like you're dealing with these people who embrace individualism and then they're so individual that the first thing they do after they break individualism is look for other people who've

embraced individualism so they can hang out with them. And then when they hang out with them, there is no thought of, okay, maybe we should organize to get what we want. I remember somebody saying, I can't remember who said it. Damn it. I love to give credit where credits do. But he said, I think that libertarians are probably the most immoral people on the planet because they believe that what they believe and how they want to structure things will bring peace and prosperity to their people, but they're not willing to do anything.

to make that happen. They're not willing to do anything to stop the wars, to stop, you know, to stop the occupation that we've been under for 80 years. They're not willing to do any of that because as soon as you say, well, maybe it's that group over there that's doing it. Oh, no, that's collectivism. Okay. Well, I mean, people collectivize for power. Yeah. That's who you're fighting. You're fighting a collective. It's, yeah. So when I, you know, know, after the campaign, I let loose on a lot of things. And I said, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I know longer represent the libertarian party at all. And it were of course, a lot of libertarians still following me on accents were very, shall I say, disaffected by some of the things I started saying. And they started, you know,

they started, you know, they started, you know, they started, you know, they said, that's collectivism, you know, get the hell out of here. There is a Jewish, there is a, so say, say you're going to criticize the IDF, but Nazis, but, but, but, but, but these are the same people who'll be like, oh, those people over there are Nazis. We have to, we have to attack them. Right. Okay. So you're just, you, you're just saying that you prefer this group to that group. So. And you don't want to, and basically, you don't want to go against what the regime has, what the regime allows you to, allows to be acceptable and verboten. Yes, exactly.

Like, you know, I ran as an ANCAP and, you know, bold making what I thought were bold statements about the state, you know, and the state is a parasite and all this kind of stuff. That's not controversial. Nobody cares about that. That doesn't, that doesn't bother anybody. They just, they laugh at that shit. You know, the establishment doesn't care.

They'd love to keep everybody on that kind of track. But when you start to identify who the ruling class is and then attack them, then they'll come after you. And that was, you know, even these libertarians who are basically the minions, their NPCs mostly, of the establishment. So, yeah, they attacked me for that. So, and then, you know, Dave Smith, I guess when I, when I, posted something to the effect that when I applied the Hoppean reasoning to Zionists, and I said they should be physically removed, just like Hop says about communists or whatever, I mean, if you're going to look at a group and say that they're anathema to liberty,

you know, like communists or property rights, like communists and so forth, So why wouldn't you then, you know, it's in natural extension to say the same thing about Zionists. And I said the Jewish elite. I said they should be physically removed, the Jewish elite. Dave Smith promptly, I guess I didn't notice it for a while, but he basically disavowed me utterly. This is after he had endorsed me for the candidacy. And now, I guess he says, I'm going to. embarrassment. I'm finding him to be an embarrassment, frankly, because he's just an anti-Zionist Jew.

And they're allowed to say things about Zionism, but they don't want you to go into the, they don't want you to talk about the Jewish power elite, the organized jury. They don't talk about that. That's not allowed. When you go there, you're over the line. So I think these Zionist Jews basically work as containment, and they work to, they're basically doing damage control for this Jewish elite. By partitioning off Zionism as the strict, as the, you know, in Israel, as the only manifestation of this. You know, whenever you talk about anything else, like the fact that you have,

like the list you put up today, which I saved. If you talk about the billionaires amongst this class and how they're actually driving U.S. policy and things like that, that's not allowed. So I think Dave Smith is a joke in the sense that he just sort of says the right things about Israel. But he won't go so far as to say. In fact, he said on one post in which he was complimenting Gad SAD for his free speech stance, I was like, are you kidding me?

And he said, I'm not an anti-Israel guy, but and so forth. I said, not an anti-Israel guy. Apparently, you're supposed to be an ANCAP who's against the state, and you're telling me you're not opposed to the most criminal state on the face of the earth, Israel. And, you know, of course, he didn't answer. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans.

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And I mean, all Zionism is, is basically them coming together and saying, okay, if we are going to be able to do this and do this on a mass level, we're going to need a state that gives us the legitimacy in the eyes of the world. And because, and we need nukes and we need weapons. And we need this, this is the way we are going to, we've been dealing with, we've had no power except financial power for 2,000 years. I would say 1,200 years when you really start studying the history. And we haven't had any, you know, we get, we go in, we get financial power and eventually

we get kicked out. You know, they kick us out of the country because we become, you know, we basically figure out how to control people through finance. And they're invited in. I'm not letting Gentiles off the hook here. Gentiles have to invite them in in order to do this. a lot of kings and a lot of mayors and a lot of governors or did this. And they're at fault too, but you're not excusing,

you're not excusing the behavior either. I mean, if you hire a soldier to come in and kill somebody, you know, it's not like you, the soldier, you let the soldier off the hook. So all Zionism is, is a manifestation is a culmination of Jewish power becoming, that has existed, organized Jewish power that has existed for centuries, deciding we need a state in order to, and they couched it in, well, we're not going to be safe. We get programmed everywhere we go.

It's not like, you know, we've never done anything. We've never done anything to deserve it. Or, I mean, like, you know, which I'm covering in a very long series, that these weren't even pogroms in Russia and half the time. It was Jewish revolutionaries. It rose up and started trying to overthrow the Tsar. And then when Russians fought back, they said, oh, we're being pogromed. I mean, I think in the Kishinaev pogrom, the first day before the fighting had barely

even started out. And German newspapers were saying 20,000 Jews were killed. I mean, there weren't even any clashes. So basically, Zionism is a culmination of Jewish power. And I had Daryl Cooper on recently. We talked about the Jewish question historically. And we looked at the history of what happens historically, especially in the last 1,200 years, when Jews are given power. And they were given power in a lot of Muslim countries.

And one of the first things that they would do is they would seek to punish the Christian population if there was a Christian population there. Saw it in Spain, saw it in several North African countries. So this is not. Yeah. This is not, this, this whole Zionism thing is just basically the culmination of 2,000 years of history. So if you're not addressing, yeah, it's like, it's basically like talking about if you, it's the same thing as starting Palestine, what happened, the Palestine Israel problem, starting it on October 7. Exactly. Instead of going back to 18, the 1890s when they. first started going there. Yeah, I mean, I understand Zionism was a Jewish response to the so-called

Jewish question, partly. And, you know, of course, the question was, you know, assimilation versus, you know, separatism and all that. And there was assimilationists, of course, and then there were the really dogmatic, uh, uh, separatism. Um, separate. separatists and they killed each other they they would have there were assassinations of Jews by Zionists who were like no we we we have to fit in we have to become we have to become Germans we have to become English people and Zionists would assassinate them I mean the whole thing I saw this the other day I forget who put it up it might have been Bill Crystal or Eli Lake or one of those psychopaths was talking about FDR who

who refused the boats coming to the United States filled with Jews and said, send them back. Well, why did he send them back? Allison Weir details this with references out the Yang Yang in her book against our better judgment. They were sent back because Zionists went to FDR and said, send those boats back. Yes. They go to Palestine or they go nowhere else. We want them to go to Palestine, so send them back.

So it's like, I mean. And I read some academic papers about, you know, Zionist cooperation with Nazis. It's very extensive, of course. That was mostly on the Nazis part. There's a really good book called Antisemitism and Zionism in Nazi Germany by Nicosia. He basically, a lot of people have used that to say, oh, like the Zionist controlled the Nazis or they were working together. It was really about, it was about economics. You know, the Nazis obviously wanted the Jews out of Germany,

but they didn't want them to take wealth that they thought was. Yeah, they didn't want them to take money. So they figured out a way that they would allow them to go to, if they went to Palestine, there was a financial arrangement that would allow them to take, I mean, like 75 to 80% of their money with them, which people would be like, well, 20% is theft. I don't give a fuck, right? I mean, we're talking about a civilization. a European Civil War that's going on.

It wasn't only Germany. This was happening. They were doing the same thing in Poland at the time. There was a Havar agreement in Poland at the time. So that's another thing about this whole thing. Everybody wants to make this into something that's really simple. And then when you start reading all the books about exactly what was happening back then, especially by people who were alive back then or who were alive shortly after, you're like, oh, this is,

This goes a lot further than just, oh, we don't like the Jews. It's like, well, Judea declares war on Germany, and it's going to be a financial war. Maybe you see what financial wars do to countries, especially countries that have no real natural resources. So, yeah, I mean, it's, I just. They also were very clear that they needed anti-Semitism and that, you know, Herschel said, anti-Semites are our best friends because this would justify their separate estate. And so I don't know how we got to this, but... Well, we were just talking about Zionism and how attacking, just attacking Zionism is...

Yeah, it's a epiphenomenon, right? Yeah, it seems to be a sort of like a way of gatekeeping away from a... that has existed for a long, long, long time. Yeah, you're not even a lot of mention that problem. And the anti-Zionists out there will police your speech about this. I've had that happen too. You know, don't say Jews. Don't say Jewish elite.

Don't say Jewish ruling class. Say Zionists. And I'm like, frankly, I don't think even Norman Finkelstein has come out and said, I don't think they're all Zionists. even want to call them that i call them the jewish supremacist jewish supremacist billionaire class is what he calls these people and i think that's in the 20s they they called themselves international jewry yeah they called them because this was being written about in the 1920s morris samuel wrote you gentiles at the time um the henry ford the dearborn independent was writing tons of

articles there were articles all over the world in papers of all over well the west at the time that were this was discussed openly right and it's like okay so what you you think that problem went away because they got their own country no they got their own country and then most of them still aren't going back there right they need it almost seems like a set up it almost seems like conspiracy to keep them i mean it's not even a country it can't If it can't survive on its own, it's not a country. Okay. But the problem is, is that there's so much of the influence here and you have so many Jewish

billionaires here, it's basically like we're going to stay in other countries and we are going to have highly influential positions in academia, entertainment, finance, things like that. So we can, well, I mean, look, how do they, look, how do they, survive 40,000 businesses have closed since October 7th in Israel. How are they surviving right now if it is not by basically siphoning money away from every country that they possibly can? Germany, United States. And also, and not to mention, okay, say it was only the $3.8 billion a year that we give them to not go to war with Egypt. It's basically what that money is. It's $3.8 billion not to go to war with Egypt.

Yeah. You know how many Jewish, I mean, I said, I put a list of Jewish billionaires up there. They could give that $3.8 billion every year. Yeah. They could do it. Why are we doing it? Why aren't they doing it? And these are not, I'm not saying these are Jewish billionaires.

I'm saying these are Jewish billionaires who are openly giving money to Zionist causes. Well, the biggest Zionist cause is Israel. The state of Israel. Yeah. Why aren't you providing that money? Yeah. Well, they want to get it from us because they would like us to be, I think, you know, look, they want to make us kind of like the batteries in the Matrix, really. We're just, we're just there to be, we're powering their, their imperialism, for lack of a better term.

Yeah, Maurice Samuel wrote in you, Gentiles, he wrote that when we try to be like you, when we try to act like Jen Tens, aisles. It's very clumsy for us and we we don't. So think about that. He's writing this in 1922. They don't have a state yet. They haven't had a state for if you, you know, if history is correct, 2000 years. Right. Then they put together a state and Mori Samuel clearly says, and this is, Mori Samuel wasn't some like crackpot who wrote a book and printed it out of his house. This is a guy who up to the 70s, like after he wrote this book and a bunch of other books, up until the 70s, he had a radio show in New York City. You know, so this was a popular guy, one of the most, most red books in the Jewish community

in the, in the 20th century. He's, he's saying this. He's like, we can't do things. It's like we, whenever we try to act like you guys, and then they get their own country, and it's, what is this country? Right from the start, it's. murders, terrorism. I mean, and I'm not talking about like, sure,

this country was founded on having to conquer a people who were already there. I get that. I would even, I'm even one of those people who's like, if they would have just moved every single person who was there out of that country and not kept them there, I would, that's just a history of the world.

Yeah. But then they decided to keep like a hostage there that they're going to abuse. And then when the hostage fights back, they can play the victim. Yeah. Oh, look, we're surrounded. We try to be nice to these people. We're surrounded by all these people.

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somebody has to take up the anti at least the anti zionist uh model so right talk about it yeah yeah so i found that a pack and it's it exists now it's called the anti zionist america pack and uh the the pack is about removing zionists from the government And, you know, I use the term Zionists loosely. We know what that means. It means, you know, in the most direct political manifestation, it means that we're not being, that we cease being robbed by Israel, by being extorted for their hostilities and genocidal rampages.

and that we have, you know, this recent case where this, you know, Androjavit, what was his name again? The guy that got busted in Las Vegas and let out. Yeah, yeah. I don't remember his name, but these kind of things like just show you the extent to which this, this infiltration has become complete. And with the Trump administration, the mask is off. totally. It's very clear what they're doing that this Jewish supremacist billionaire class and a Jewish elite or whatever you want to call them are running this country and controlling policy, not just foreign policy, but domestic policy with their attempts to put the anti-Semitism Awareness Act over on us, which hasn't passed yet. But in a way, many of the executive orders Trump has passed. It's made most of it unnecessary. It's obviated a good deal of that because they're already applying, they're already applying effectively the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.

And all of the, as we see with this entire administration, constant supplications and subservience and groveling before Jewish masters. I mean, this is sickening. I couldn't believe it. So, I mean, I believe it, but I just, you know, it reached the tipping point where I thought something has to be done and nobody else is doing it. So I guess I'll give it a shot. So I founded this anti-Zionist America pack.

First idea was to have a party. Then I remembered that third parties do nothing in this country. They get nowhere. I mean, they don't even get on the ballot. It's absurd. The uphill battle was ridiculous. It would take decades for that to materialize. Whereas if you direct funds,

toward anti-Zionist or at least non-Zionist candidates, then, you know, and try to collect, collectivize our economic power of millions and millions of Americans who are being completely shut out from the political sphere, thanks to this Jewish billionaire class that's running the show. If you collect all that wealth and funnel it into a movement that, is trying to disconnect our political sphere from the Zionist control, then we may get somewhere. And, you know, it's a long shot, I admit.

But I think, you know, and I'm just starting it. I don't know how long I'll run this thing because, frankly, I don't like executive director work. I'm just an idea man, so I came up with the idea. I may turn it over to somebody who wants to take charge of it in the not too distant future. But I put the mission statement up, and it's pretty explicit. Do you mind if I read it here? Please go right ahead.

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joking um yeah you have do you have any pets uh i don't personally have a pet i'm here now at my son's place watching my son's house he has a cat why you think it might be carrying a bug no um because i was into John Kariaku, former CIA agent. He was on my show six years ago or something like that. We were talking about Iran. Recently, he was talking to Patrick Bed David, and he talked about how, you know, him and some agents back in the day went over to Israel,

and they tried to recruit, you know, them to be a double, one of them to be a double agent. And the guy was very rude and told them to fuck off. And when he got home, his dog's tail had been cut off. And he was, you know, sitting in the corner crying and he's trying to figure it out. And his dog's tails just cut off. And I'm thinking, well, you know, if some scholars or athletes or astronauts had broken in,

they probably would have just robbed the place, not cut the dog's tail off because that's all that happened. Also, you know, you're, you know, I maybe get a car that's like older than 1985. Wow. because they're not hijackable. And also, you know, look, I'm saying all these things because I think you have, I think you have great, it's a great idea. And the time has come.

The thing is, is if this were to get any, the kind of traction that it needs to get, they're going to try to kill me. I mean, at least child porn is going to be found on your computer. Oh, Jesus Christ. You know, I mean, yeah, I mean, these. Look, these people are psychopaths. Yeah. I'm not talking about the Jews.

I'm talking about the people who, this elite that you're talking about, and it's always been the elite if you study their history, you know, I mean, yeah, there's behavioral issues, don't fit in really with, you know, a lot of cultures, but really it's the elite that are the most dangerous. Indeed. They're incredible psychopaths.

They are, they, you know, I mean, there's a reason why I under, people just don't fucking get this, okay? There's a lot of people out there on the internet. There's a lot of people who, you know, especially people who are anonymous on the internet, they don't understand why people who are using their own name or people who have families or people who own houses. don't call out the Jews every time they get a chance to. Exactly. Yeah, I get this crap from all these anons online. Say the Jews, say the Jews.

You know, listen, buddy, you're sitting here behind an anonymous moniker. Okay, I got my name out here for real. And that's all they need, you know. So anyway, yeah. Look, I've just, I've gotten to the point in my life. I've gotten old enough where I'm like, I know, The enemy is, I'm, you know, I'm not heritage American, but my family's been here for, you know, been here for over a century. My family has fought fought in the wars.

And, you know, since then. And, you know, half of my, you know, my mother's family is buried out in, you know, a one sem, you know, like almost everybody in my mother's family is buried out in one cemetery, a half an hour south of Johnstown, pencil. So half of my family is buried. Very close to where I am right now. Wow. Yeah. It's buried here. You know, is from here.

The other half is in Puerto, you know, the other half is in Puerto Rico, but we've been here. They moved here, you know, a century ago, left Puerto Rico and came here a century ago. I got nowhere else to go, man. I mean, it's like, you know, they talk about how, you know, oh, you know, every once in a while, somebody will get mad at me because I don't, because I defend somebody they don't like. or I don't say something, the perfect way that they need me to say it because they're such a fucking egotistical piece of shit that they're like, oh, you know, once we take power, you're going back to. Okay, where? Where am I going back to?

Where are you going to send me to? I mean, like, literally, the only place you can send me is like, like, Seacotin in El Salvador, like to a prison somewhere. I don't, Puerto Rico is still part of this country. so that's kind of retarded. Spain won't have me. You know, the Polish, you know, what's Poland now won't have,

you know, won't have that side of my family. So what the, where the fuck am I going? I, I, I've just decided I'm going to say whatever I want. And if they kill me, I'm, fuck it. I mean, you know, it's yeah.

You know, I mean, we're at that, this is a personal, on a personal note, do you think I'm crazy for doing this? Ha ha ha ha. I don't think you're crazy for doing it because if it was because when you read the room from what happened since October 7th, this would be a, this would be the time to do it. I mean, I'm just in a, in trying to, in a very comedic way, I'm basically trying to prepare you for what's coming. I mean, these, these are psychopaths. They, you know, when you, when you hear the stories about, oh, this is what people will do to keep power.

I mean, just look at the Gaza Strip. Yeah. This is what people will do to keep power. I mean, I've seen, I'm not one of these people who harps on like the atrocities because I'm, I'm a realist when it comes to war. You know, also, I'm a Christian and I believe that this war wouldn't be happening unless God wanted it to. Sorry, I'm kind of in that kind of camp. I'm in that camp. And, you know, but, you know, when you watch a video of a, I mean, I watch a video of a little girl.

She couldn't have been 10 years old. It was just walking with like some food the other day. And a bomb dropped right next to her. I'm talking about a bomb. I'm like a rocket or something. I don't know what it was. Just drop right next to her and she's gone. And it's like, and I'm like, if they'll do that to her,

they'll do that to me. Oh, absolutely. They'll do that to me. I mean, they'll do that to any of us, you know. And they'll go to their own people as they did on October 7th. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they don't, they don't care.

They don't, once you read Russian history, you find out that their first victims were always their own people. When they were forced to send people to draft, they sent the, when the czar was like, look, you people have dodged a draft long enough. if you're going to be a part of this, if you're going to be a part of this, you have to, you have to send people. We're going to have to take conscripts. They would send the poorest,

the most infirmed of them, the ones that weren't in a leadership class, none of the leadership class. I mean, this is just, this is who they are. This is who they are. You know, and it's been going on for a very long time.

And ignoring it, ignoring it because a narrative has, been built that this is the most abused people of all time culminating in an event that is not even, I mean, these people, there are still people who call themselves Jews. Anybody who's still calling themselves an Assyrian is just larping. I mean, there are whole kingdoms that are gone, gone from history, washed from history. Ninety-nine percent of history is lost. There are people, there are people who are gone that we don't even know about you know but these are you know

they're this victim this victimhood narrative that you know it's kind of hard not to learn from them because once you realize who's in power and who's you know who's controlling a lot of the a lot of the thought leaders and a lot of the people it's like okay well you know it's once you realize how much power they have over the government where guy gets, guy gets arrested for, you know, trying to solicit a child. Oh, nope, send them back, send them back. How pedophiles from here run there, run to the, run to the, run to Israel. And they protect them. Sometimes they'll send them back. Sometimes they'll, they'll, um, convict them there. But it's not all the time. it's not i mean it's not all the time it's enough of them you know they praise you know there

was a guy um i think it was back in 1999 who went in to a um a mosque and killed like 21 Muslims while they were praying and i think smotrich has like a picture of him on his wall these are people i mean these are people are not so can we pause real quick i need to turn my air conditioner back on i'm dying so yeah i mean just basically what i'm what I'm saying is is that I think this is a good idea. I think it's an idea that time has come. But you know, there's also, you're also going to have to deal with the fact that there are going to be people out there who are going to tell you,

you have to have Jewish people involved in this movement or it's going to, you're going to look like a Nazi or you're going to have people who are going to say, you can't have anybody who's Jewish working for this because you don't know whether, you don't know what their real sympathies are and everything. So, you know, I mean, I don't know. You know, it's like, I mean, I'm, I understand, I understand all positions. That's one thing I try to figure out is, you know, it's like, it's like Marxists, like classic Marxist. Yeah.

I understand. And, and yeah, they are like literally my sworn enemy. They're probably the complete opposite of what I believe and everything. But I still, I still seek to understand. understand them because if you don't understand your enemy, there's no way you're going to be able to defeat them. Yeah. And I mean, I think Zionism is the enemy of the United States. It has been for 80 years.

It's culminating now. I don't know who the hell is running the White House. But, you know, if Donald Trump thinks that he's, you know, if he wants to present himself as the president of the United States and that he's in charge. I don't know, maybe, maybe not care so fucking much and hire somebody who was born in Israel and they're going to be appointed state, the state attorney for Nevada. You're going to have what just happened now with Oklahoma. Everybody's like, oh, Oklahoma, their education system is being completely overturned. Yeah.

And it's going to be run by Prager You now. Prager You, which is... Who the head of Prager You is a former intelligence agent for the friggin, for a frigging Israeli military. Yeah. I mean, where the fuck? This isn't America? America has been, I mean, we have traces of America here. There are places you can go that it's still America.

But when it comes to the politics of America, this is the politics of Israel. Yeah. And I mean, and I'm, you know, and I'm being, I'm trying to take the most diplomat, say it in the most diplomatic way. Because it's, it's angering. It should be angering to everybody, especially if your family's been here since the beginning and like settled this place and died for this place and went out on the, went, went across the prairies and risked everything to build this country. And now look what it is. It's basically an annuity that another country can just take money from whenever they want. And right now, there's more Jews serve, quote-unquote, American Jews serving in the IDF than there are in the American military. Give me, I'm fucking done. I'm done.

I mean, I want this to work, you know, Michael. Thank you. It's a time that time is the thing that it's time has come. But, you know, and I would never say don't do it. I would just say, know what you're getting into by doing this. Because these are not good people. They're not. They're not.

They're beyond belief, psychopaths. I mean, the IDF is the most moral army in the world. Did you know that? Yeah. Yeah. Could you imagine? I'm not worried. I guess the, you know, the physical attacks.

I'm not too worried about that. I guess the reputational stuff that I'll take. Already the ADL, I think, has written me up. This is to be expected, I think. But, you know, it could get worse. But we'll see. I guess you're saying, don't leave my computer in my house ever. Just carry it with me at all times.

Because... Oh, that doesn't matter, dude. They can do that remote. They can get on it anyway. Yeah, they can get on it. Yeah, they can get on it remote. I mean, it's, it's just one of, it's one of those things where when you start talking about international jury and their power, it almost feels like you have to say all the time, I'm not a pedophile. I don't have child porn on my computer.

And I'm not suicidal. Yeah. Because, I mean, I've said the last one. I said that I'm not suicidal. but I may have to say the other ones just because, you know, they could try that. Yeah. Yeah. And everything they accuse you of, they're doing.

So that's the irony. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, what you were saying when about the attacks that you had at NYU, all that is is it's an old Jewish trope of they cry out and cry out in pain as they strike you. Right. You know, they act like the victim. while they're like literally leveling your buildings and killing your,

killing your grandkids and killing your grandparents. You're killing your kids and killing your grandparents. I mean, I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm, I'm trying to do everything I can. I'm organizing in real life, which is,

I think the most important thing. If you're, if you think you're going to, if you think you're going to win this battle just online, you're not, not at all. Yeah, you're out of your mind.

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I mean, everybody should be able to do that. Any group that wants to do that. If you want to do it as Catholics, if you want to do it as Protestants, if you want to do it as Presbyterians, if you want to do it as whites, if you want to do it as blacks, if you want to do it as Jews, you should be able to do it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm sorry. It is, the problem is multiculturalism. It does not work. The only way multiculturalism works is with authoritarianism.

Lee Kuan Yu, you know, when Lee Kuan you, you know, when he looked at what Singapore was and how it was this multi-racial, multi-ethnic of Asians who Asian groups really hate each other. There's some real interbattles there. Yeah. He said, well, the way we are going to have an orderly society is if you spit gum on the street, you are going to. you are going to be caned publicly. If you scam somebody, you are going to be in jail for a very, very long time. If you, you know, and the thing is, they don't police like speech. Like if a Chinese person, I've heard this story from somebody who said they saw it firsthand.

Chinese person tried to walk into a Japanese restaurant and the Japanese person called them a dog and told them to get out. In Singapore. You run to the police with that, and they're going to be like, move along, sir. Yeah. But you cannot, if you're going to have order, you're going to need in a multiracial, a multi-ethnic society, the only way it's going to work is with authoritarianism, with authoritarian control. Do we want that? Well, I mean, that's a question for whomever.

I think the left like that, but yeah, we don't. Yeah. Well, it would be better just to separate. Yeah, I mean, this. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that, you know, to go back to the, so this, I think it's time. I think that more and more people are starting to see that, you know, kumbaya amongst people who, you know, people like to say we're one country, but, you know, someone who lives in Salt Lake.

city. A Mormon in Salt Lake City probably doesn't have a lot in common with a guy who lives on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. They're probably complete opposites. There's a real clash there. And it seems like the only thing that ever brings us together for a very short period of time is tragedy. But it's a short period of time. And then it's a short period of time. and then it revert within a week after 9-11 it was like for a couple days everybody your your politician's going we need to stand together against this evil menace and everything and then a week later it's like oh no we're going to do it this way oh no we're going to do it our way oh no we're going to do it okay sure I mean yeah I'm sorry yeah so I agree with you that's what they do is with multiculturalism

as they they impose a totalitarian regime because that's the only way that people will abide by it. And that's, I think that's happening here. I mean, that's obviously happening here. And I think it benefits a certain group, as we know, who do not like homogeneous white societies because they feel threatened in such societies, or they feel that they are at risk in some sense of being, you know,

so they love to have more minorities, They stand out. They stand out. That's the thing. They stand out. So if you have a multi-cola, you know, they stood out in Germany. They definitely stood out in the Russian Empire. So if you have a multicultural society where, you know, you have five different groups that completely look different and act different, if you have this other group that acts insular and acts different, well, then it's just another group. Exactly. And because they're organized and because they have resources and because they have international resources, it's very easy for them to, in most cases, take over and guide the politics and even take over the politics of that country. I mean, Biden's cabinet was 70% Jewish. Yeah. I mean, okay, 2% of the population. Okay, you can, I've heard the argument, oh, well, most Jews live around cities.

Well, they don't, I mean, not Washington, D.C. Well, you're not going to convince me that happened organically. You're not going to convince me that the best person got the job. And you're not, you're definitely not going to convince me after four years of Biden's cabinet being 70% that they're very successful. Because if you think that that was a success and that I'm jealous and I'm only talking about them because I'm jealous of their success. success. Yeah, no, that's not it. That's not it. Maybe it was the fact that Merrick Garland was not targeting blacks breaking into, you know, doing those whole gang things where they went into San Francisco businesses and

stole just the right amount of route. So they didn't get arrested. No, I didn't charge. He didn't concentrate on them. He concentrated on little. old ladies who are Catholic who are praying outside of abortion clinics or who did sit-ins in abortion clinics. Yeah. It seems like there's an animosity there. Or people whose families historically come from palest settlement, which is Ukraine, who have insinuated themselves into the government and then push for war with Russia, their sworn enemy for centuries. centuries maybe going back to 700 actually so it's like um i don't know maybe there's a conflict of interest there i don't know i don't know maybe maybe i'm just jealous yeah you know i mean it's like

i'm i'm sorry you know i'm i know where i know where my family came from in the old country I'm a fucking American. This is all I got. I want to leave this place better than, you know, than I found it. I was, you know, I was born into the Vietnam War era. And then I went through the Cold War era. And then the 90s, which was a fucking,

a lot of people like to say was a golden age, which was a horror show, you know, in a lot of places. And then you have the girl, I've known, well, I've known my whole life. is war and you know and and a lot of it is war for this one certain group right I just want I'd like to see a little bit of that change before I die I'm doing it I guess at personal peril and perhaps

against self-interest in some sense but I felt the temperature frankly I felt the temperature out there and I thought there's going to be a lot of support for this I mean I'm already getting people like, where do I give, where do I donate? How do I donate? There are like hundreds of people saying, how do I donate? You know, we don't have that set up yet, but we're getting there. And so I think there's a huge groundswell. The question is, will they try to destroy, well, they will try to destroy it? Will they succeed? And do we have the collective power to counter this? If, you know, we don't, we're not the billionaire class. You know, they've got a lot of the billionaires, most of them. So, you know, their funds are unlimited, but we do have a pool of

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and yeah i've never i've never started a pack never started a party but you know i've watched a pack work i've watched a pack evolve and one of the things one of the problems i had watching that pack evolve was when it got to the point where they could hire their first person full time yeah their then their main focus became how do we get a second person hired yeah right growth of the of the institution. Yeah, there's that imperative. It's just Burnham. It's James Burnham, the managerial revolution. Exactly. Exactly. There is the, you know, there is this thing about all institutions have a kind of intrinsic imperative to expand and grow. And that is something definitely to watch out for. I'm not interested in making the organization itself so,

big, I want to have its impact be really outsized in comparison to the amount of people that are actually doing it. Well, one of the one of the other pitfalls is is that when you start out when you start out with an organization that's highly ideological, unless it stays ideological, you know, there's that I think it's a Sullivan's law that any organization that doesn't start out, explicitly right wing moves to the left eventually. Right. That I think is, I think that's, you can also say that anyone that doesn't start out with the intention of sticking to its focus and being laser focused on one issue, then they have,

they're going to become managerial after a while. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And along those lines, I was thinking, that we're going to stay ideological for sure. And the question I did have is, and I'm still pondering it, is like there's a lot of leftists that are interested as well. Because this is one issue around which the left, so-called,

and the right actually could unite. And that is around the question of Zionist influence. Of course, if you push it in another direction or more explicit language, that's it for them. The left, they would be out, you know. But I think it's possible to actually have some impact, not impact from them, but to have some support. Well, they're not going to run the show. I can tell you that. And we're not going to let it.

Well, that's what I was going to say. I was going to say they can help out with money all they want, but you cannot allow them to um you can't allow them in the door no as they will take over and they will it will be a leftist organization yeah it'll be leftist and before you know it they're going to do the domestic prong of what this elite group wants they'll be focused that you know they're fine with the domestic prong of of uh you know this jewish billionaire class but then you know the only thing they object to is the military aspect of it. Right.

But I'm very... They have no problem with the cultural... You know, that the world... You know, videos that the World Jewish Congress brag about how they're responsible for feminism and the gay rights movement and the Civil Rights Act and all these things. They have no problem with those things. Well, those things are... Those things need to be addressed as well.

You know, it's like Dennis Prager, it's like Dennis Prager has said, except for Nazism, every other ism was run overwhelmingly by Jews. And when I found a Times of Israel article that said that when Mao was setting up his terror regime, that 80% of the volunteers were Jewish and the Times of Israel ran this article. I'm like, I'm like, I just don't. I don't even know what to say. I wrote about that in my book The Great Reset and the struggle for liberty about all the Jewish intellectuals, if, you know, put it generously, were very, you know, surrounding Mao. It was a shitload of Jewish people. I mean, from, well, I don't want to get into the names, but because there's too many. I don't remember many of them, but I remember some, Josh Shapiro and some others.

And then I found an article bragging about this by a Jewish scholar written in an academic journal. I love finding things like that. That excites me to no end. Whenever you find this stuff in academic journals, right, where they're trying to disguise. things largely. Here they are bragging about the impact of Jewish people on Miles regime and, you know, how basically they started the, they did a lot of the propaganda around the great leap forward and around the cultural revolution and stuff like that. So, yeah, that was pretty surprising. Of course, I didn't go out of my way in that book to say, look at all these Jews.

I just listed their names and showed what their functions were, you know, and let the people, let the readers put it together. But the, I forgot what I was going to say. Yeah. No, it's, yeah. I think one of the Guggenheim's daughters was over there helping with that. She had actually left Manhattan, so you'll help with that. And it's like, and you're like, okay, well, why? why are you at the head of every one of these everyone you know he you know and preger said

bolshevism he said overwhelmingly choose and i mean i'm reading solzheny since 200 years together on the on the show right now yeah i've read that we're going yeah we're going through all of that i mean it's like come on let's you can't you're not even allowed to bring this up unless you're celebrating it yeah what what i was going to say was you know one of the oldest uh Jewish newspapers in the country is called the forward. And now they're online. They're called the Daily Forward. And every once in a while, you'll just read a headline and you'll be like,

are you kidding me? You know, they'll have like, they've actually had headlines where they said it's anti-Semitic, it's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory to say that Jews control banking. And then like a year later, they'll do an article celebrating how Jews control banking. Yeah. And there's this game you play where it's like, okay, is this headline from the Daily Forward or the Daily Stormer? Because you're like, if you want to create, if you want to create anti-Semites, put out articles like this that people read. Exactly.

I mean, come on, guys. At least talk about it. What is what has caused this? What has caused this revolutionary spirit? know that he michael jones you know has a book called yeah he's written about that extensively yeah yeah what is it where to come from how how did it happen what do you think it's been good for the world but no you're not a lot to these these discussions are not allowed to happen because you know germany that must be that must be fun for you being a german

oh yeah i get i got a kind of a double uh whammy with that and i get to that i get to kind of a double uh whammy with that and i get that all the time. Look at your last name. He looked like, you know, Nazi, you know, Stormtrooper's name or a Nazi propaganda's name and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, that was a little bit of an extra jeopardy there, but I don't care. All right, man, I'm going to let you go. We've been, we can sit here vetching all night. But, um, but um. I think you're supposed to just like imply the K a little bit. But when are you going to have a site up for this? Should I just direct people to your Twitter account right now?

Right now, just direct them to the Twitter, but we'll have a site up by next week, early next week. It'll be AASAPAC. That's AZA-PAC.com. AZA-d-pac-pack.com. We tried to get asapac.org and it's $46,000, which is not something we can afford right now. Yeah. Well, even if you could afford that, I'd say don't do it.

Yes, yes. It's a distortion. Yeah. But all right, and where can people get your books and stuff? I mean, what's funny is I wanted to mention this in the beginning when Michael was talking about being a professor at NYU. you, but how many books did you write as a professor? Well, I wrote about eight books as a professor, and I've written six since then. Speaking of which my last book is maybe interesting for your readers, it's called, for your listeners,

it's called The Cabal Question. And it's a piece of fiction. It's a novel. I think it's good. A lot of people like it, but it's, you know, of course, I haven't promoted it that much. Uh, but, uh, yeah, I've written 14 books. You can get the, get all that on my website, Michael rectinwall.com. Okay. Cool. All right, man. All right. Um, thank you. And, um, yeah, I'll talk to you later. Take care. Okay, take care, man. Nice talking to you. Bye,

bye.