The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1259: The Warfare is Spiritual w/ Stormy Waters and Philos Miscellany

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

2 Hours and 23 MinutesPG-13Stormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm.Philo's Miscellany has a YouTube channel in which he reviews rare books.Philos and Stormy join Pete to discuss the concept of spiritual warfare, specifically from the teachings of the apostolic churches. They begin by talking about the recent shooting in Minnesota.Philo's YouTube ChannelStormy's Twitter AccountPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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I don't know if that's the word for this. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekina Show to returning us. And it's a second episode we've all done together. So, Phylos, what's happening? How are you? I'm doing very well, Pete. stormy always a pleasure to be here all right gentlemen um we picked a we picked a topic and we this topic was picked like two weeks ago or or even even longer i don't even remember because um

stormy couldn't talk for a while and then phylos was busy and yada yada and um yeah and then today we sitting around this morning and find out that yeah another demon jumps out and does demon shit so anybody want to jump in on that yeah so today dear listener a trans man or a demon-possessed man shot up a Catholic school particularly the mass all of the children we're at mass. And I believe as it is right now, it's two dead and 14 injured. So thank God. It could have been way, way worse, considering how this fucking mutant was armed. But I've been poking around what little is available that hasn't been scrubbed.

So like they did the usual scrubbing, right, like social media channels, whatever. But not like the unusual ones. So apparently there is this thing called the Skibbitty farms, which I guess is for the people that are too fucked up for even Kiwi farms. Which is, you know, it's like

a forum for freaks. And that was not deleted because they probably didn't know about it. And also the person had, there was a lot of Cyrillic writing in the journal entries and some of what was written on the firearm. So some bright Anans got the idea of checking VK, which is Russian Facebook.

And sure as shit, the shooter had an account there. So on the account in Kiwi Farms, or sorry, not Kiwi Farms, Skibbidi Farms, I looked at the profile page of this creature and I don't know if other people have caught it. I'm sure some people have by now, but very displayed prominently, but in the lower corner, was a symbol for 09A, order of nine angels. that's proper Satanism shit. So, yeah, that's where I'm at so far with it. Did you look into it at all, Phyllis?

I saw the pictures floating around on Twitter or the notebooks, and I talked about this privately with Stormy. Sometimes when you run into this stuff, you just don't look any further. I'm very glad I went to confession today. I did not want to start digging into it. to this one before the stream. I think there's just, I can understand,

uh, the demon possession element of it. I'm an Orthodox Christian. And I think, I think what I really want to impress upon people, just as they look at this news story is, there's no material cause for this. There's not even in a broad sense,

some kind of psychological disordering, This is not an individual that has, you know, some kind of diagnosis you can fix with a pill. There's something much, much deeper and darker here. I wrote a few presuppositions for the stream, I think, that might be relevant here. But if there's any other points you want to talk about with this specific case, please go ahead. There is drugs that can affect this. And everyone talks about how the school shooters are on SSRI.

like it's SSRIs that are doing it, which is naive. But if anyone types into their search box of choice as serotonin re-uptake inhibitors and look at what that family of drugs is classified as, they will notice and Pete, as soon as I say this, you're, you know, hair and back your neck going to stand up. They are disassociatives. So what SSRIs do in various degrees and ways place a person into varying degrees of a disassociative state. The same type of disassociative state

that's a person undergoing severe sexual abuse. would do. Disassociative states create what's often called. Multiple personality disorder or DID, Disassociative Identity Disorder, D, being the important word here. So we're basically, a lot of these shooters that, yeah, all happen to be on SSRIs. It's not the SSRIs that are doing it. It's the disassociative state. A disassociative, a disassociative state is similar to the state that you find in lots of deep meditation, right? You're disassociating your conscious mind from your physical body, which opens the door for possession. I can, I mean, I can touch back on it later, but there's dozens of different mechanisms in

which this happens. Some people will be familiar with, some people won't be, but the specific type of drugs that a lot of these fucking animals have in their system are exactly the type of drugs. And if you think about how many people in our country are on SSRIs, it should give you pause. But yeah, certain types of hallucinogenic drugs deep meditative states. It's also what happens in an out-of-body experience. So, yeah, all these things are... The door was flung wide open.

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With the Bank of Ireland current account. Get started today. Six euro monthly fee may apply. Government's damp duty applies to debit cards. Bank of Ireland is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned disassociation and SSRIs because, you know, up and to a certain point in history. You know, we've talked about how sexual trauma at a young age is meant to cause

this association. And it's interesting that you mentioned that SSRIs can do that because, I mean, it still happens and there are still widespread child rape. And, but, you know, like Freud finding out. that so many of his clients were having sex with their children. It was easier for people to get away with it, you know, a long time ago. Now elites get away with it.

And it's easier, it's not easier, but elites are the ones who can get away with it, probably the easiest. So really, if you have trouble having a, culture and having a population that you can't that they that you're having trouble to cause them to have disassociation order than SSRIs are a really easy way to sneak it in so that you don't have you know now that you can't you know very interesting is the is the studies behind SSRIs so at the time that they were prescribing SSRIs when they rolled them out they knew that these things weren't effective like everybody

remembers that you know Tom Cruise jumping up and down on Oprah's couch but forgets what he was jumping up and down about Tom Cruise came out vocally against SSRIs so they don't treat depression they're dangerous they're dangerous and they don't treat depression and everyone thought he was a fucking crazy person because he is a crazy person frankly right But 10 years later, he would be vindicated because through a series of lawsuits, it came out that the pharmaceutical companies knew that SSRIs were 50% as effective in treating depression as 30 minutes of exercise a day. Or one hour outside. I'm not joking.

Walking outside for an hour or 30 minutes of vigorous exercise was two times more effective at treating depression in both male and females. And they knew that at the time that they started shoving Prozac and Zoloft and Paxil and all the others down the throats of millions of Americans who were dumb enough to tell their doctor, not their psychologist. not their psychiatrist. I can't remember. I always forget the differences between the two. But regular general practitioners were able to prescribe these SSRIs.

So you just go tell your GP you had a bad day and that motherfucker is going to try and put you on SSRIs because a pharmaceutical rep gives his family free vacations when he does. The reason is, I know this is because I was unfortunate enough to be one of those kids for a period

about three weeks that was dumb enough to tell that their doctor that they are feeling down and he prescribed me Zoloft's and luckily enough for me I had a physical reaction because I don't think I would have been able to explain to an adult in compelling enough terms the mental reaction. All right. So there's suicidal thoughts and ideations that are a leading side effect. But also so is swelling of the tongue and lips, which thank God for me happened to me as well. Because if it wasn't for that, they probably would have tried to urge me to continue taking it.

But my second night on these drugs, I'm lying in bed and all of a sudden I hear and they, everyone has an internal monologue. They know what their inner voice sounds like. They know even when they're like reading a book in like the character's voice or whatever that we all do. We know that we know that we are conscious that there is no differentiation between that in our inner monologue, right? We know it's us, basically.

We can see ourselves in the mirror. Even though we're doing a funny voice, reading a Harry Potter book to our kids or whatever, like it passes the mirror test. So when a voice that is not your inner voice start speaking in your head, you notice right away, and this deep, booming voice kept shout out. Killing. Kill yourself. Kill yourself. Kill yourself. And I was like, I think I was 16 or 17, so old enough to have like a, a rifle, I don't have a shotgun in my room.

Pick up your gun. Kill yourself. Kill yourself. And it terrified me. And I slept on the floor that night. and then I never took them again. I told my mom like, hey, this was making my lips and throat swell up. I can't take this anymore. I told my doctor, and he's like, well, let's try a different one. I was like, no, I don't want to try them anymore. And by that point in time, my mom was convinced

that I had had a bad enough experience to where I didn't want to. And Pete, do you know the only other time that I ever heard that voice was, remember when I told you what happened me after Nashville and while you sent me to the monastery for good bread yeah same voice it's funny you get sent to that someone tells you hey that you know there's this monastery you can go to and it just so happens that that's where you needed to be at that exact moment yeah yeah for the

listeners i woke up the next the morning after uh the tennessee event very uh staticy I couldn't think, like I couldn't finish a train of thought. All of a sudden, like, right in the middle of it, like this, whatever crazy thought would come bursting in and basically derail me. And I'm lying in bed. And this goes on for 30 minutes. I'm getting really frustrated because I feel like a fucking retard. Like, I can't get control of my head, and I'm really good at that. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to start to pray.

and I'll start simple. I'm just saying the Lord's Prayer. I've said the Lord's Prayer hundreds of thousands of times since I was like five. I know the words. But all of a sudden, I didn't. I would get three or four lines in and then pow, a crazy thought person. Now I don't remember the word. Where was I? And this happened again and again and again and again for almost an hour. All right. So I'm now lying in bed for almost two hours. And at this point, I'm freaking out thinking that like, that I have a fucking stroke, like in my sleep. And I sit there and I'm like, all right, I'm going to do this word by word. and I got all the way to the second to last word and then pow, just a horrible image in my head of some,

of a car crash. There was like people hanging out the, like the window of a roled over car all mangled up and just completely fucked me out. All right. And I'm like, I vis-a-audibly said. said fuck and then I hear in my head the same voice the same voice that I as I heard when I was a kid laughing hysterically just laughing it's a point where it was like booming in my ears almost he was having such a good time and I shot up in bed and I was like

you motherfucker I wasn't even thinking I screamed it so loud I wrote I woke up the person who's in the room with me. And they're like, what's wrong? What's going on? I was like, nothing, nothing. And I call Pete 15 minutes later. I was like, hey, there's supposed to be a cathedral in this freaking city, but it's closed, you know, on a Wednesday, which is stupid.

Like, I need to go to a church immediately. And then Pete in a very calm voice for waking him up at 6 o'clock in the morning or 7 o'clock in the morning, whatever it was. He goes, do you like bread? The answer is yes. And I drove four hours to a monastery. And anyways, not being able to think the whole way. Long story short, by the time the church bells rang at that monastery, I could think again. I had immediate recall, just like I was perfectly normal.

And it felt like somebody took a hundred pound backpack off of me. So it doesn't always have to be like the movies. Oppression is not possession. These are different things, right? You don't have to see a possessed person. You don't have to be possessed for these things to, to try and hurt you, carve out a piece of flesh. To them, it's all about having agency.

They live in a world where they can see the world of things, the world of matter, and they have no ability to act on it. Right? So they're all thought and no ability to execute. No agency. They can think whatever they want to think. they can, you know, labor a thousand years and none of it will ever have an effect in the material world.

They can affect causality and chance this way or that way. But that's different. They cannot exert any agency in the real world where we are. So to them, the height of all forbidden pleasures is to extrad. that agency through us. Some of its possession, picking you up and driving you around like a moped? Yes, but shoving you this way or that, being able to impede you in very important ways at very specific times, this also allows them agency.

So you may have an experience with one of these things that is just a good thing. just in your head. And if you're not cognizant of that, you'll think you're growing crazy and then you'll end up on SSRIs. But all I needed was a quick splash of holy water and an hour of prayer. So like being able to differentiate these things is important. Sorry, that was a really long monologue there. Ready for huge savings?

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Also, they have amazing jelly, by the way. The first thing that comes to mind is, I don't know the science behind this, but how many studies have actually been done comparing the realistic ingestion of either multiple SSRIs, but also combined with alcohol or other mood-altering drugs. I mean, it's very often pharmaceutical drugs are tested with the control and with this single drug. But as anyone knows, no one, pretty much no one just has one SSRI. There's a vast majority of the young population under 40.

I couldn't give you the exact statistic, but it's over 50% of people under 40 years old are on some form of SSRIs. I would say it's more than that, bro. The one thing about dating, like, you know, being a zoomer girl magnet is you get to learn a little bit. A girl I saw recently, 26 years old, her and every girl she knows. So like all of the girls she was friends with in high school and college, every single one is on not just SSRIs, but an additional mood stabilizer. or antipsychotic, every single one. I don't think it's the same with boys, but with women, I would say it's like 80%.

With young women. Yeah, it's, uh, I don't have a word for it other than terrifying. I mean, I have immense gratitude that I was never on any kind of SSRI grown up. And, uh, I think as I approach my older age during 30, uh,

and I've started working, working out a ton. I really do agree with your prior statement that physical exercise and getting out in nature, it has a meditative effect. There's a reason why Nietzsche would walk for eight hours at a whack. And that many monastics, they're hiking all over Mount Athos. And the physical labor that's involved in a monastery, you're not sitting in a library only reading. You have an immense number of duties that are defined to you by an abbot. And you have to carry out over time. And so it's not just sedentary prayer. Even in orthodoxy, you're standing the entire time. You're doing prostrations. There's a mindfulness to the nature of how you can combat this. I think it's, I mean, there's so many different factors that I'm honestly surprised this sort of violent activity doesn't happen more often. Where people will take tons of pills and they'll drink a lot and smoke a lot of weed.

they'll depress their central nervous system and then they'll take a bunch of serotonin altering drugs and then they won't move and so your mind is just this connective machine it's more powerful than the most powerful computer

and you're just kind of setting it loose and agitating it and it's really just terrifying there the other thing that I drew out from your story was the power of church bells and I'm going to sound a little schizo. This whole stream is going to be schizo for those wondering. I was thinking about it when I was reading into the invention of church bells

because there's a lot of divine math behind music and harmonic frequencies between sounds. Why are bells at the door of every monastery, every church, every Catholic church, I'm assuming, maybe the same with orthodoxy, every convent. Their little bells, usually three or four of them, they're right by the door. You ring them as you come in. They're called sanctuary bells. And they'll usually have an image in, you know, whatever metal it's made out of, usually brass. And the frame and structure will be, you know, sometimes iron or brass.

And in the iron or brass, they'll usually be a depiction. of an angel standing atop a demon or a serpent with a spear. So, yeah, they hate bells. There's a, there's an alchemical, like a hermetic maxim about the sound, right? When it comes to truth, there's a, there's a lot of like, um, There's a lot of overlap between the two in many ways. I know that will upset a lot of people between religious dogma, particularly Christian dogma, and hermetic axioms or hermetic proofs.

When I say proofs, I mean, hermeticism isn't a spiritual belief system. It's not a religion. It's more a philosophical. toolkit for understanding the world around you. So some of it overlaps quite nicely. But I'm not supposed to say that. But they always say that you can hear the sound of, the soul can hear the sound of truth by its ring.

And this is where we get the saying something rings true from. Because truth has a specific, they believe that truth has a specific sound to it, right? And there's some inscriptions on these bells. I think I should read you. In the meantime, why I pull them up? Go ahead, Philo. Well, I guess

when looking at the history of technology in the Middle Ages and late antiquity, we find most of the earliest inventions were things like water mills, or they were machines that were designed usually with

a very limited mechanical advantage of like one to one or one to two, pulley systems, things like that. But sometimes, the most advanced mechanisms behind things were also they're related to religion. For example, I'm thinking of the, I'm going to script the name, the Greek mechanism that was found on that shipwreck

that would chart out the constellations mechanically through systems of gears. The Anki-Strada mechanism, I believe. But then also thinking about the the nature of bells and music, the earliest music was obviously entirely vocal, and it was polyphony. It was focused on the harmony

between different voices to generate certain sounds, what is pleasurable to the ear. Most all classic composers, Bach and Mozart and Handel, they all wrote church music. They all wrote liturgical music that was designed to be played at Holy Days.

And kings would have their own court musicians to compose things. The Vatican would have secret music that they would play at certain occasions. So the importance of sound and not just like a sort of random, whatever instrument, a jam or whatever that people would listen to, it was very seldom in the ancient world that you would hear any kind of music. And that kind of, that brings me to one of my, I kind of, I have a bunch of presuppositions laid out for this stream. One of them is that I think Christianity is, for the most part, centered upon unity. The sacraments or the one flesh or the brotherhood between Christians. It's also the unity of music, the holistic part of it.

Secularism is division. It's dissonance. It's noise overlapping noise. It's people playing music on their speakers on hikes. It's every, you go to a gas station and there's a TV on the pump that'll play an advertisement. I can't help but connect it with a sort of overwhelming desire from very bad people that want to entirely capture your attention and to steer you away from any kind of spiritual or religious pursuit. I think you mean intention.

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I'm trying to find the inscription, but it was basically like something in his truth, you will find sanctuary, something like that, on these sanctus bells. There is something that has to do with how, to your point about music, harmonies, and I guess you could call it disharmony or cacophony. Right.

Chris Langen, who I urge everyone to, if they haven't checked out already, check out. Langen is a Christian, I think he's the weirdest type of Christian I've ever encountered. Langen is a physicist. He's also the world's most highest IQ man that is tested. I think he's two something or other. and he has this theory, right? It's a unified theory, so both unifies quantum mechanics and classical Einsteinian mechanics. Right.

And this is like the unified theory is like the holy grail of science. It really is. It's called the, um, CTMU theory. And basically it's the only theory of only unified theory or really any physical theory at a systems level like, you know, classical mechanics or quantum mechanics are both system level theories.

All right, they don't just explain a specific action. They are generalized. So they explain everything everywhere in that, domain. And to unify these two things is basically the thing that the greatest minds in theoretical physics have dedicated their whole lives to, at least the past hundred years. And I've read all of the ones worthwhile. String theory is not worthwhile. And for anyone that cares that's listening. And Langen is the only one that I think has even come close and I think he's actually cracked it.

But basically, in his, the reason I bring this up is because there's something called the the Schrodinger's principle in quantum mechanics, or also called the observer principle. Right.

And that is, you've all heard Schrodinger's cat. Right? That's what's called the quantum uncertainty principle. Right? But a quantum particle is actually a really interesting thing because it does certain things when you're looking at it. And then it does other things when you're not looking at it. And I mean that quite literally. And even if you're looking through a camera, if you are observing it or trying to measure it in any way, right?

if conscious intention is pointed at it, it behaves differently. So if its velocity is measurable, right? The second you measure its velocity, and so you are seeing it, you are observing it. You are now unable to measure its vector, what direction it's going. And if you try and measure its vector, you are no longer able to determine its velocity. It fundamentally changes its ability to be perceived on whether someone is trying to perceive it. And if you read Schrodinger, I was lucky enough to get a hold of

some of Einstein and Schrodinger's correspondence as a younger man that was able to be much more frivolous with my income. And these guys talk about it, not from a scientific level, but from an actual consciousness level, right? Because if you set a machine to observe it, none of these problems manifest. It's only when a person, a conscious being, tries to measure it. And there'll be a million videos about Neil deGrasse Tyson debunking my take on it. But unlike Neil deGrasse Tyson, I possess fucking Schrodinger's actual words to Einstein so he can get fucked. Sorry. I need to work on my swearing. I've been told I do it gratuitously. So it is something I'm going to try and work on.

Right. So even from the beginning of quantum mechanics, we knew that consciousness was fundamental to how things operated. We didn't know why it was or what exactly it does. But it's built into the framework of our reality. Right. It fundamentally is part of the house we live in, whether. it's the roof, whether it's the windows, the doors, we don't know. And if we pull it out, whether the house falls down or not, we don't know. But it's a part. We do know that. And it's integral. We do know that. So Langan was the only person to basically unify the two fields of physics and show where

basically it's a unified physical theory in which consciousness is fundamental, right? And as he works through this theory, it becomes undeniable that there is a much larger consciousness, a singular unified global consciousness. And when I mean global, I don't mean like on our planet, I mean everywhere in all places at all times. Whether it's a hundred million light years in one direction, that consciousness is there. Whether it's a hundred million light years in another direction, consciousness is there. Whether it's a hundred million years in the past, and either of those spots, consciousness is still there. There is this single consciousness separate and apart from us that is everywhere. And in his words, I've stolen this and I may have

quoted it without citation but he says oh and this consciousness is what structures the rules right if you say gravity accelerates a body in space at x amount of miles per hour if the body is x size whatever that number is is the same everywhere all right that body will fall at the same speed in Alpha Centurai as it will in your backyard. Right? The number doesn't move. Right. So there is finite rules that exist everywhere. Those rules never change. The values of these forces never change. And in CTMU theory, he basically proves out how it is this unified, global, discrete consciousness that as it is existing, right, its existence takes all of these rules,

these values, and fixes them in place. Right. So if I were to change the speed at which that, you know, mass falls via gravity by, let's say, I don't know, 10% or 1%, well, that scaled up to the whole universe would have increased gravity enough to collapse the whole universe in on itself. Actually, if I change the value of gravity, 0.001 in one direction, the universe collapses in on itself immediately after it's created. If I change it the other direction, there's not enough gravity for subatomic particles to come together and form atoms, molecules, whatever, mass doesn't exist. So it is these values being set exactly where they are on a pinpoint that allows any of this to even take place us dogs cats your house

the planet all of it and it's this singular consciousness that binds these things and fixes these things in place so they can exist which defines a logos a truth right it is this singular consciousness that sets this truth these values are affixed through it. And he says, God's logos is our geometry. His truth, right, his conscious mind is what affixes everything in our universe, sets the values, determines what dimensions there are, what we can go. The reason why we exist in three dimensions is because God's truth. The reason we don't exist in nine. is the same. So God's Logos is fundamentally the binding agent that holds all reality together.

And that's why I say he's like the most interesting type of Christian I come across because the man has come to God from first principles. So when we say that Christ is the truth, the way and the light. We have a lot more evidence to back that up than pretty much anybody else does. And you can explain certain mechanisms. And he basically defines mathematically the mechanisms in which evil exists in, right? It is a secondary consciousness. And I'll let everybody go check out his work and he'll be happy or hit him up on Twitter.

He'll be happy to tell you all. about it considering the fucking raw deal that academia was given him has given him um thanks eric Weinstein and he describes evil as incoherence and chaos with malice right so chaos incoherence has malice you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you Even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range. For Mentor, Leon and Terramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2000 euro.

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and I think we may be getting way far afield here, and I think I'm largely responsible for that. This is like a guess. Yeah. Go on. Some may ask at this point, like how... What is that to do with dreams? Well, what

what opens the door for possession? Now, in Catholicism, according to the exorcists who've written, it's very simple. It's dabbling in the occult.

and even William Peter Blatty and the Exorcist, William Peter Blattie, very, very interesting man, was in the psych warfare division of the Army and comes out of that and decides to write a trilogy telling the world that demons exist and they possess people. But if everybody remembers if they've seen the movie, if you haven't, stop what you're doing and go watch,

go watch The Exorcist, 1973. Linda Blair's character, Reagan, had found a Ouija board. And she started playing with it. And it's as simple as that. Now, you can get into definitions of, well, you know, I don't play with Ouija boards. I don't do this. I don't do that.

But what do you practice? that is, or what are you reading or what are you listening to, what are you doing that is a cultish, that does open up the door. So I just wanted to throw that out there because one thing I learned from, you know, going to a Baptist church for years and then going to a Protestant seminary, a conservative Protestant seminary is they will tell you spiritual warfare exists. to be worried of it. But they don't have the doctrine that apostolic churches do.

The centuries and centuries and centuries that the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, if you ask somebody about the, you know, the spirit, the spirits in the realms, and they don't have the kind of training and the kind of research that has been done for centuries, you're not going to know exactly what it is. It's like, sure, yeah, okay, but how do I avoid it?

What do I do? How do I recognize it? If I did feel like myself or somebody close to me was suffering, how would I deal with it? And, you know, I mean, I understand people's, attachment to their lineage, their confessional heritage,

whatever. But reading a Catholic or an Orthodox book on spiritual warfare and possession, you're going, I think the problem is, is I think a lot of people who read that, even Protestants, don't believe it. Even though these are people who are

experiencing it. You know, Sean Ryan just said Dan Schneider, who's a Ph.D. And former military, he's a trained exorcist assistant. And

I think it was four hours. I think they did four hours with Sean Ryan. I mean, just start there. You know, go find that episode. and then dive in. I'm not telling you you have to leave your church,

but I'm telling you, if you really want to understand what this is, and you believe that these entities exist, but you don't have in your confessional heritage a coherent understanding or a systematic explanation for it, go search that out. Yeah, we're all Christians. Come borrow our tools.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm, there, there are things about the, about going to Protestant churches that I like very much. And I don't feel that it's a, it's a threat, a threat to, you know, who I am, where I came from, what my family practiced. So, it's on your point, Pete, real quick, about how prod see, see this type of stuff. I agree with you. I think a lot of them don't even believe this exists. They believe that they are in like a one v.1 fight. And all that matters is them, their conduct.

And whether that gets them into paradise or not. So there's only two actors in the system. Right? The world that they exist in created by God. And them and their action. And that's it. They don't quite see it as a larger playing field with other, you know, agents.

And that opens up oneself not to possession. I know very, very, very, very good Christians that are prods that have, I have no doubt in my mind will be in paradise. You could be like the best fighter guy in the world, but that doesn't mean you're able to actually fight in like a war where there are pieces moving around. Right, there are other types of things besides other really good fighter guys. It is almost a symphony of terrible.

There's a whole bunch of people. And like there's too many pieces on the game board to see it as just all that matters is me and my relationship with God. And I think that's something that prods fall into a lot where a lot of the older churches, they flat out say like this is, we, mankind exists in a state of spiritual warfare. Right. There's as million enemies of God, a million spirits as there are animals, flora and fauna, on the earth. And they're right. They literally are just roaming around. And to Pete's point about saying, like, the occult is one way that this happens.

Remember that quantum particle, right? It knows where your intention is. is. And whether your intention is on it or not on it is going to determine how it acts. This is much the same. Porn is as much of a doorway as occultism. Because what are you focusing your intention on? Oh, by the way, porn, I mean, there's dozens and dozens and dozens of studies about how porn, watching porn, creates a disassociative state. Right. One imagines themselves outside of their body and in the position of the person that they are watching in pornography. Right. So they are imagining themselves, not themselves, but that person to which they are watching, you know, that creates a disassociative state. And what is your intention on? Where you focus your intention matters. Right. Like these are this, I mean, God didn't tell you.

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definitional and history primary sources for Christianity and Judaism. Oh yeah, let's talk about enemy action. Yeah. So I guess I'll leave it up to you too. My plan is to start with the Christian definition of basically the human understanding of God or in a way to make sense of it.

And then to go into like the Jewish corruption of it because I think that helps ground the discussion and a little bit more of, you know. Well, we've been discussing for like 45 minutes. So we're not grounded by now. Sure. I guess St. Gregory of Nissa, he makes an argument on why you shouldn't consider Jewish or pagan theology seriously. And when you look at a lot of modern religion or the way that people approach religion, they don't really know what they're praying to. They don't really know how the divine works. And I think that just to like get this out there, I think that the people's, in my mind, as an Orthodox Christian, there's, there's one.

way out of this mess. And that's prayer to Christ. And that's being a Trinitarian Nicene Christian. Psalm 336, by the word of the Lord where the heavens established, and all their power by the spirit of his mouth. And one interesting thing that I've done is I've looked at that, and I've looked at the Hebrew translation,

and I've looked at the Greek Septuagint translation of this. And if you take this to be literal, that word and breath in the human sense are these powerless things. What it means if you're taking everything from a human-centric perspective, if you're approaching religion from a purely materialist angle, these concepts of word and breath just have no power. Our words and our breath are inoperative and ineffective without subsistence. The capital W word in Christianity and the capital B,

breath are divine. A word has essential being and a spirit, the Holy Spirit, has subsistence. This is the first major example he picks out of how to define the Trinity, the Godhead. And so you have to look at these objections to what God is. Jew and Greek, they might not necessarily even contest the existence of God's word and spirit. The Greek might say due to Platonism, that they'll rely on their innate ideas, and the Jew will quote a bunch of scripture at you. But what the two of them do is they equally reject the plan by which God's word becomes man.

And they'll say that, and I've found this over and over and over again because I looked at a ton of Jewish post-exylic writings, like the Midrash and the Mishnah. They just plainly look at attributes of God and say that they aren't God. They isolate it to something different. And I think I could inform this more of the background with the Hellenism, but I can get into that when I talk about Judaism.

I wanted to like run Christian mysticism by you, Storm ages to, you know. Well, real quick. What do the, what do the Jews seem to be well aware that words spoken, right? So words with breath. Have spirit. Would that be correct?

Yeah, absolutely. They care very much about what words are spoken out loud. Yeah. The shimap, the whole section on Judaism. Yeah, absolutely. I think we should get into that a little bit because I don't think that the dear listener, like they've heard us on the timeline and, you know, whatever, say like, this is evil.

You know, there are aspects of Judaism is evil. but I bet you they've like nobody's actually come out outside of what they've done and their actions you know against Christianity and against Christ himself I don't think there's a lot that people know about the just day-to-day practicings of that religion are evil and what is happening, you know, is not what you think is happening. And in fact, is not even what most Jews think is happening. But something else is happening entirely. Would you agree in my assessment that Judaism, as its practice, not like the

reformed, which is basically just nonsense made up by rabbis to keep the ethnic solidarity going? Right. But the actual practice, spiritual practice, is more akin to black magic than it is anything else. Yes, and I can prove that with sources. Go on. Okay. So again, for the listener who may not have caught me on, I've been on Beach Show before. Before I was an Orthodox Christian, I was a Jew.

So between that and living over in Israel and reading and speaking Hebrew, like, I've verified all this. This is not me pulling it out of my ass or something I found. on the Chabad website. Let's see. Where's a good part to start out with this? Let's just start with the prayers. Right? So most people have no idea how a Jewish prayer service works.

What happens in Christianity when you go to a church, Christ is the bridegroom and the church is the bride. That's John 329. That's Mark 219. And that's Ephesians 522. And if you would throw out the Dennis Prager definition of Judeo-Christianity, you Yes, please. You know, that has to go immediately out the window.

Jews do not believe in that. It's more than just having a Christ-shaped whole. Here, let me just run through what they actually believe. Yeah. Right? So pre-Lurionic and Lurianic Kabbalistic Judaism. This is where Shabbat shit like this comes from. I remember you asked me once, like, what these Shabbat guys are actually up to, right?

So, there we go. It's three, it has three ideological nodes that can be shown why Gentiles can either be simultaneously authors, hostage, or collaborators in Tikun, from Tikun Olam, without collapsing the same. of Israel as the chosen people. So in pre-Lurionic, there are two-tier structures, right? One, the Jews do not have the spark themselves. Another version of it, so Lurionic, the spark, oh, yeah, this is the other thing, is God, the Creator, was broken up into a million, billion pieces and spread and hidden all over the place. In little sparks, I'm not joking at all.

All humanity carries these sparks and they're scattered by another spirit, Shiverat Ha-Kalem, right? And chosenness is not a racial essence. This is pre-Lurionic, but a contractual agency, the Jewish soul is equipped with a teakum license, I guess you could call it, a divine power of attorney to extract and elevate its assigned fragments, right? So they're on spark scavenger hunts. Gentiles possess the sparks, but not the, some sparks, but not the license, right, to start putting them together or extracting them from other places that they may be hidden.

hence a Gentile can be an author of Teakin healing only when acting through or after a Jewish activation, so to speak. I'm paraphrer. I'm using some metaphor. Right. But then there is the Lurionic. So this would be Shabbat. Right. So Jewish rabbis.

are a medium, a spark location map. The Jew himself is a messianic code that identifies which sparks are inside which non-Jewish hosts. All right. Jews' use of the Gentile object buying, singing, borrowing, whatever, transmutes his latent hidden spark into liberated God energy. I can go on, but, this is actually what they believe. If you actually want to know what Jew Judaism is actually about,

this is what it's about. I can send you the breakdown between Lurionic and pre-Lurionic Kabbalism. But you asked me one time, what those Shabod guys are actually on about, like what they're up to. This is what they're up to.

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and leant to Gala to give a time of father Gail to Deereen. In Ergrid, we're taking to talk in one of one-eha, to find out of the lecturers on as to every time, and people, tariff in one tachy. There's era of cooched-doagued, I'm more,

I'm more, And I also found like how far back. Not very Christian. Lots of Judeo, but I can't do the Christian in the spark hunt. Well, I remember like I explained a lot of the medieval history to Pete, which I know pretty well. I knew very well back to like 1500 or so. But I before this retreat for this stream, I didn't really take a look at the origins of a lot of the other more ancient elements. I mean, because the mindset in Judaism, like, before. the formal doctrine that rabbis tell Jews in the religion is it's an unbroken chain of law

passed down genetically from Moses on the mountain God giving him the Torah the law and the spark map yeah exactly in this existing unchanged unerring with the exact doctrines through all time to the present and for all time into the future but there's some elements that disprove this so And you would think that you would know that's a bold face lie. Yeah, but if you're if you're like a cultural Jew that doesn't speak Hebrew, you wouldn't even, it wouldn't even cross your map. Yeah, but so the rabbi is literally giving you a sales pitch full of not true shit to get you to do a thing. Yeah. I want to elucidate like how far back this goes because you mentioned like the pre-Lariac Kabbala.

In the second century BC, you have to understand. understand the interpretado Greca of Judaism and the encounter between Judaism and Hellenism. Because Judaism is not this religion that's operating within isolation, just among itself. The entire history of Judaism is Judaism and other groups encountering each other. And it's completely false to say that Jewish theology was unaffected by these other groups. So I'll list a whole bunch of examples as quickly as I can. And stop me at any point. In the second century before Christ, Posidonius portrays the Jews not as theologians, but as a collective group of philosophers.

Hektadaius of Abdera wrote in the 4th century BC that there was already an exigent priestcast in the time of the early Ptolemies that was practicing Egyptian magic. Theophrastras states that the Jews worship heaven itself as the highest god instead of a universal god, a true mono-throletes. Monotheism. Monotheism is a modern concept. Indica of Megastinis, who was the ambassador of the Selicid Empire to India, between 304 and 292 BC, he stated that the ancient Indian Brahmin culture reflects the same theological understanding of nature and reality as the Syrian Jews. Claircus of Soli, who is a pupil to Aristotle,

describes the total Hellenization of language and the soul of even the wisest and most upper elements of the priest class of Jews. Both Clearchus and Posidonius, 150 years apart in writing, described the Jews as practicing omniromancy, which is the study of dreams. Selsis, who writes in the second half of the second century AD, describes the Jewish god is interchangeable, as discussed between Jews themselves

with the Greek, Scythian, and Egyptian gods. That is to say that Zeus, and Zeus, Sabaioth, Papaeus, or Amun, can all be used, interchangeably with the Jewish conception of Hashem. Additionally, Jewish syncretism with other cultures existed in the Greek-speaking diaspora prior to Christ. The Jewish pagan cults of Sambathion in Thayatira, the Sabatistis in Sicilia, the Sambathiki in the Egyptian Naukratics, and the Hypsistarians in the Bosphorus of Age Minor, are all Judeo-Helenized cults that are operating within a pretextic.

priest caste. And over time, prior to the establishment historically of the Pharisees, there was a crisis within Judaism between about 175 BC and the mid-160s, which is where the more radical reformers, i.e. certain elements of the priest caste, attempted to abolish the entire Torah. So in reaction to this, the historical reason that Judaism in the life of Christ, when it exists then, as the Pharisees control Judea, is that it's, It is extremely rigid and dogmatic, and that is a lot of the historical basis for why they decry Christ and defame him and ultimately put him to death. And you also have to consider that, especially in the post-exylic context, God has both a

holy one male-gendered form and a shechina presence for the female form within the same universal concept of God. So there's a whole bunch of other different items that go with this. But I was wondering if you had anything to say on that before I kind of continue. This is why when the Orthodox guys are praying against the wall, it looks like they're rocking back and forth. They're not rocking back and forth. They're actually humping.

Because in the type of prayer that they're doing, they are to be like the creator guy. not the spirit or force right not the basically having intercourse with the female deity so they are quite literally well they're literally trying to fuck the wall figuratively they are basically reenacting copulation between the male and female deities this they're not rocking back and forth. They are humping. Yep. The basis for this, I mean, to prove Stormy's right. So a lot of things about Judaism are some sort of inversion of Christianity. So in Christianity, Christ is the

bridegroom and the church is his bride, right? Those passages I mentioned earlier. Well, the opposite of that. There's a prayer in Judaism at the end at the start of Shabbat called the Khadadi. And the Shabbat bride, the Kala, is the divine feminine, the Shechina, which is, is a ritually enacted, brought into the synagogue to join the Jewish people who are the groom. This is spoken, this is a standard prayer. It's all Jews in every synagogue on Shabbat on the planet, every single one. And this is even, especially, this is not a biblical prayer. You can't find this anywhere in the Torah.

It's from the midrash written in the second century AD, which, I mean, it's further elaborated upon. It's mysticism. Right. And it's further influenced by Rabbi Shumuel idols, who lived from the mid-15hundreds to the early 1600s. It's the same evidence for this is given in the Khidushai Agadot, which is Kabbalah's text. And I have more items from the Jewish prayer service to bring up that people don't necessarily know. So here's something. that not that people may know, is the Kabbalah was originally Greek.

You know, there's that study of, there's much to do is made in Judaism about Gamantria. Yep. And basically number magic. That originally comes from Pythagoreanism, right? So the Kabbalah is spelled with a Q, not a K, is a Greek book of, well it's a series of books that is both magical text

as in like we'll call it like magical backstory for said texts and then magical text as in like operational text right so that is what the Greek Kabbalah is the

Jewish Kabbalah is a hybrid And this is proven out here. Let me see if I can find this. Ours Notoria, Ars Notoria. No. Where is it? Too many books, too many books. Here we go. This is the other bit that they don't tell you about. In Judaism, this is on

Dr. Steven Skinner's translation of a very, very nasty bit of magical text called the The Keys of Solomon. The names are interchangeable. What matters is the ritual, right? So Keys of Solomon is just the Jewish name for it that it's mostly remembered by. But, I mean, this was called the Seven Seals in Greek, no Solomon attached. And a similar thing with a certain Egyptian deity. Anyways, here we go.

Sources of the Solomonic magical tradition. Topic as, no, no, no, no, where we go. Yes. So, for the benefit of those readers have not read, this one, this is worth three, the Greco-Egyptian magical papyri, right, is found to be the original source, right? So it's called the PGM per short, right? Oh, the primary Egyptian nomina magica were dropped. The bulk of those taken by Jews in Alexandria, the methods such as threatening one spiritual creature with another using phylactory or a lamin or a floor circle for

protection. There are very few methods that were introduced into the kabil itself that did not first originate 300 years earlier in Egypt. So most of the ritual magic in Judaism, which is a lot of it comes from the Greco-Egyptian magical papyri, and particularly a much nastier version of it, leave it to Jews to kind of crank things up to 11, right? Called the Seven Keys of Solomon, which I don't urge anyone to look into ever. But yeah, so they basically, like you're talking about, they go around the world, it's like they're going around the world picking up like the naughtiest magic. of each and every place and rolling it all together.

So it's not like they're polytheistic, which they are. It's like they're, well, it's a word for like not many gods, but all of them. Like, yeah, we have tons of gods. Which gods? Everyone we run into. Pantheistic? Yeah, pantheistic would technically work. But yeah, anyone can check out Stephen Skinner's work on the origins of the Kabbalah.

right he sort of he basically carved out which came from the greek ah that's why i couldn't find you but yeah so he talks about which came from the greek and which came from the egyptian and basically how it was how and what it was turned into in the jewish text but most of the text of the cabala which is many books i think the zohar is more books but this rha is more books but this represents almost all of like, let's say Shabbat, right? Shabbat, which is the largest growing sect of Judaism, members like Lex Wexner, who is the guy that brought Shabbat to the U.S.

Other illustrious members like Irokolymoysky of Ukraine, who, in partnership with Lex Wexner, set up all the Shabbat schools around the country. and it's got such notable members as Ben Shapiro and Jared Kushner are all Shabbatniks. These guys are Kabbalists. So these guys, Mark Levin, also a Shabbatnik. Their whole understanding of faith, religion, Judaism, whatever, right? What they practice in their day to day.

You it's quite literally Greco Egyptian dark magic and it's not a joke. I could just pull stuff right out of the mission of Torah for you. Please. Okay. So, um, I mean, people really under, I mean, people just don't know like this. This was the part, this was the original point of the stream, by the way. Guys, uh, we just weren't, we weren't, we weren't, we weren't, we weren't planning on a, uh, demon possessed transvestite shooting up a bunch of kids.

Mm-hmm. Go ahead. So one of the core prayers, and this is something that was new to me, was that a vast majority of prayers that are, you know, inside Judaism that you're saying on a daily or weekly basis. You know, they might be out of the book of Deuteronomy or Exodus, or they might be out of the Psalms. That's standard for the course. But a lot of what actually exists in the core of daily practice is post-exilic. So the perfect example for this is the amidaa.

And inside, the amidae is also known as the Shimona Esre. And it was codified by Rabbi Gamalil II in Yavne, after the destruction of the second temple. So this is what's called, as many other prayers are similarly called the Mitzvada de Rabanan, the commandments that are of rabbinic origin rather than divine. Now, why should you care about this? Well, just speaking strictly metaphysically, if you are a religious person, if you are a Christian, everything comes from God and is illuminated through, for example, the church fathers. In Judaism, a lot of these commandments are coming directly from rabbis. And what does Christ say?

I mean, put not your trust in princes and sons of men whom there is no salvation. It's a very, very explicit reason for that. But what is inside this Amidah prayer? Well, there's 18 sections. One of them is called the Bikath Haminim. It is the curse on heretics. And it's repeated in the rabbinic liturgy in Hebrew. And this is said everywhere across all synagogues, everywhere in the world, even reform ones.

This is a curse on Jews that apostatized to Christianity, like me. and Christians themselves, as well as the governance of the Christian world. So in every synagogue that is prayed. Now, they'll say that the meaning of it is, like, diluted and that it doesn't mean the same thing. But if you look at the text of it, it's still a curse. The prayer itself dates to the Jerusalem Talmud, and that predates the Babylonian Talmud by about a century. The texts themselves are written in Aramaic rather than some kind of more ancient Hebrew. form. But I also want to talk about a little bit more about this Hellenistic corruption,

because I think that Greco-Egyptian corruption of Judaism is what gives it a lot of the magical attributes. It's kind of the framework for it and how this is all incorporated. The most famous, the actual theology of Judaism, a lot of it stems from Maimonides. That's Moshe bin Maimon. He wrote, both the guide for the perplexed as well as the mission Not Torah, right? So he's the one that wrote a lot of these texts that modern Judaism derives its core ideas from. And anytime I reference the Mishnatura, it comes from this guy. He lived in about the year 1100. So you have to think that this is well after the church fathers have written. So this is something that very few people know, which is that Jewish metaphysics

in theology does not predate Christianity. It's a myth. It's after the church fathers are writing. Now, it sounds insane, but I'll prove it. So when Moshebun Maimon writes the Guide for the Perplex, its primary goal is to incorporate Aristotelianism into Judaism. And this is already several hundred years after Christianity grappled with Hellenism. It goes through Arianism. It goes through Dunditism.

It goes through an historianism. The church fathers are defining the doctrine of the Trinity in order to refute a lot of the Hellenistic influence that's going on in the world around them and to clarify what Christianity is. But Maimonides is already running into items of theology the basics that are already refuted by Christianity that have not really actually been considered by Judaism. A lot of Judaism's theology is reactionary. What's an example of this? Maimonides defines God in purely negative terms.

That is, God is defined by what he is not. This is a core element of Neoplatonism, and it's known to Orthodox Christians as apathetic theology. So how do you define positive theology? What is cataphaatic theology? It's opposite. Well, every time that Judaism employs it, it borrows a lot of its understanding from church fathers and Christianity. The cataphatic theology in Judaism stems from Yehuda-Halevi, Baya ibn Pakuta, and Shimon Ben Zemach Dilan.

These people all postate the church fathers by about a thousand years. Now, what's filling the majority of theology between the life of Christ in about 1,000 C.E. If it's not this epithatic or cataphaatic theology, what is it? Well, it's something called Merkava mysticism. What's the name of the tank in Israel? What do they call you? My Abraham's tank?

It's called the Merkava. The Merkava. Exactly. So Merkava mysticism, it primarily takes a hold of Judaism between 100 BCE to 1,000 C.E. And it very, I mean, if you look at what this actually is, a lot of it fits the Greco-Egyptian mythology. What's an example of this? Well, there's multiple animals that will be driving a chariot that are half beast and half angel. We'll have a lion and a ram, but it'll be half man.

And it will be pulling God these sort of crazy. things. And when Maimonides is writing the Mishnahe Torah, what does he say of this? What is the Maasei Melkava? He says of it that it should never be expounded upon, even to a single individual, unless he is wise and capable of understanding. And this is where I want to bounce some, I guess I would even call it perhaps Gnosticism, but when I say this, and these are direct quotes from the Hebrew translated into English, this will make you laugh, stormy. From Maimonides, the pinnacle of knowing him, referring to God, is to reach the stage where you admit and believe that you are completely ignorant of the truth of his glorious essence. You do not know God. You are completely ignorant of God. It's almost like a Buddhist understanding where you destroy the self.

Further, another example from the Mishnah Torah. God is the knower, the subject of knowledge, and he is the knowledge. itself. All is one. There are four types of physical matter, fire, wind, water, and earth. All four bodies of these do not possess a soul, nor are they conscious or knowing. They are like dead bodies. That's a direct translation from the Hebrew. And further to this, the Jewish astronomy and astrology is uniquely distinct from both Hellenism and Christianity. What are some other examples I have? Basically, you have like the creator god that got turned into a bunch of sparks, right? But they still believe that another god rules the earth, right?

A lesser and also often not nice one, right? This is straight up Gnosticism. It's not kind of like Gnosticism. It's not a little bit Gnostic. It is Gnostic. right the world is run by an evil monster deity and the real God the guy that created everything bits of his spirit is broken up into many many many many pieces and spread about everywhere in all of us and the the physical body is

that you inhabit is not real and all that is real is your consciousness and this spark and basically it is an escape to try and get out from underneath this evil, you know, temp agency god that runs Earth. So you could go be a, just a consciousness and reunite all the sparks. It's narcissism. It is. There is no difference. This is the same picture.

Right. And I guess. Which is funny because you said it's around like, what, 1,500, 1500. This gets like, like, reinterpreted. in turbo charge? No, this gets reinterpreted around the year 1000. Oh, Pete, when was the Gnostic heresy? Oh, that was second century, a second and third century.

I mean, that was immediate. It was almost immediate. Yeah. Huh. Because the way I kind of see it is that, I mean, almost from the jump, Christianity is having to intellectually combat the nature of all these different Gnostic heresies and cults and religions. It's up against the Roman Empire.

And so it intellectually devises all these different elements to kind of distinguish itself. I mean, the early church history is just that. It is, you know, whereas Christianity is making itself unique from the cultures around it. It is choosing a unique metaphor, not really choosing. God through Christ, a unique metaphysics occurs. The Jews, on the other hand, are just, they're syncretary. They're combining all these different elements from every other culture that they're running into. But for what purpose?

Well, that's where we can bring up some real examples from St. Christ's. Before we move on from Nazism, I just wanted to put this out. I just wanted to throw this out there for people who, and I'm somebody who went to a church where they gave you a piece of cracker and a little cup of juice. the way the Gnostic heresy was commonly argued in the late first century. I mean, this was late first century and kept going for a couple centuries was transubstantiation. If you deny that Jesus came in the flesh, then you deny that the bread becomes the flesh. That's exactly how that's exactly the main argument that was made by people like, like St. Ignatius of Antioch.

So I just want to throw that out there for people who are like. And you're quite literally denying the flesh. Yeah. That means you're denying the son. If you're denying the son, you deny the father. Yep. And I can actually also prove that as well. So I guess, I guess, I'm going to start with.

So I read St. Chrysostom's discourses against Judea, Christians and the ADL recently put out something saying that St. Christosum shouldn't be read and should be like removed from any kind. That's how you know it's good. Yeah. I mean, it's like, oh, cool. Like, thanks for the reading list. But I own a copy of this.

And I decided for myself what to read. And my priest even told me, he's like, eh, at the time I was a catacumen and he said to me, like, you might just want to, you don't take it personally what they're saying here. But so I read these. And at the time for context, St. Chrysostom is in the third century near east, and he's in the great church of the city. And at the time, Christianity and Judaism are, for lack of a better term, coexisting, but it's not seamless. Judaism at this time was still proselytizing. And that sounds kind of crazy.

How is that possible? the Jews that we know today are not proselytizing to the going. Well, what people would do in this syncretic world where Christianity is small and fledgling, if they're not Christian, what are they doing? Well, they're trying to kind of hedge their bets with a divine. So what people will do is in the 300s, they need like a boon for something. They need luck. They have a vent that they're trying to get good fortune on.

They would try to cover their bases. They'd go to the church and they'd go to the synagogue. And they would try to get the blessing from all the local religions. Because that's just if you don't understand theology and you want as much luck as possible, why wouldn't you? And for St. Chrysostom, that is a gigantic sin. And for any Christian, a gigantic sin. You don't confess multiple religions. You confess Christ, period.

But St. Chrysostom says a lot of things about the Jews. He says in one of his homilies, when so many blessings from heaven came into their hands, They thrust them aside and were at great pains to reject them. The morning son of justice, that's S-U-N of justice, arose for them, but they thrust aside its rays and still sit in darkness. We, who were nurtured by darkness, drew the light to ourselves and were freed from the gloom of their error. They were branches of that holy root, but those branches were broken. From their childhood they were the prophets, but they crucified him whom the prophets had foretold.

And this will make the hair stand up on your neck, stormy. So the godlessness of the Jews and the pagans is on a par. But the Jews practice a deceit which is more dangerous. In their synagogue stands an invisible altar of deceit on which they sacrifice not sheep and calves, but the souls of men. And there's a separate item. On the eve of Paska, in, you know, on or around the year 300, he explicitly points out, and people might not know this, the Jewish Passover and the Christian Paska, Easter in English, occurs on a very close date. And even at the time chronologically occurred at the very similar date.

So of course, St. Chrysostom, who's trying to keep a separation between the Jewish and Christians, has to differentiate between Passover of the Jewish kind and the Pazca Easter. of the Christian kind. And he says in his third discourse, do you not see that their Passover is the type while our Paska is the truth? Look at the tremendous difference between them. The Passover of the Jews prevented bodily death, whereas the Paska quelled God's anger against the whole world. The Passover of old freed the Jews from Egypt, while the Paska of Christ has set us free from idolatry. The Passover drowned the Pharaoh, but the Paska drowned the devil. After the Passover came Palestine, but after the Paska will come heaven. So there's a lot of metaphysical significance in the differences between that holiday.

So this is just another point that there is not like a slight deviation between these religions. No, I mean, what does Paul say to the Galatians? Right? Literally, Paul's letter to the Galatians. Galatians, this is like early Christianity. I can't remember if it was in Greece or Rome. Rome the Galatians were. But basically in hostile territory, early, early, early church. And he's talking about the Judaizing heresy. He speaks literally about circumcision, right?

Because the Jews see the young Christians and go, oh, yeah, you're, Christ, yeah, he was, he was one of our guys. But, you're doing the, the, the, Christian stuff all right, but you're missing all the super secret stuff, right? All the secret, you know, Hebrew stuff. So you got to cut the tip of your cocks off like us. And that's how you really, really do the Christian stuff. You got to be like Christ, right? Yeah, well, he was one of us.

He had the secret cock snip. The funny thing is that didn't just in the year. That didn't just stay in the year like 50 AD. The crazy part is that Paul basically says to them, right, if you think you're going to go through the killers of Christ to learn how to be a Christian, right? Or basically through the killers of Christ to get to the kingdom, maybe it is best that your talks were cut off. Like so, I mean, that, and this is coming from somebody who formerly was a Jew. And he's telling Christians, like, you need to have. nothing to do with this.

Right. If you look at the, like it's right there in scripture. You don't even need to know ancient history. I don't have the passages from the Talmud pulled up. And if you just Google a lot of our guy, if you look up a lot of our guys on Twitter, you'll see the Talmudic passages of how they view Christ and treat Christ.

But I didn't just want to go with that because that'd be a little bit of a softball. I wanted to look later on. So I wanted to look after this Maimonian philosophy. I I wanted to look after the year 1000 for how the Jews would grapple with Christianity. Because I think if you look at the more ancient texts, it does appear to just be Gnosticism.

And I wanted to understand outside of a very strict rabbinic understanding. How did the actual average Jewish person refute Christianity? Well, the best source for a medieval Jewish attempt at refuting Christianity is the Nizahon Vetus. It's written, I can't find the author attribution, but, Essentially, what happened was during the, during and prior to the Inquisition, a lot of Jews were genuinely converting to Christianity. Obviously, not all of them. There were a lot of issues with this.

That's why the Inquisition happened. A big item is that these Jewish converts to Christianity, the genuine ones, they would inform the Christian priests and bishops about what the Jewish arguments were. against Christ. So this actually improved the Christian ability to dispute Judaism. And so this text is actually the Jewish refutation against these improved specific arguments. And there's a lot of quotes.

Basically, this text goes through the entire Old and New Testament and tries to call out all the different Trinitarian references to Christ and tries to disprove a bunch of things in the New Testament. And so what I'm going to say is, I mean, it's technically heresy, but it's, you know, I say this as a source. This is not my own words. So much of the argumentation, so like why don't Jews accept Christ? Well, in the modern world, people will tell you that Christ, it could be like a really bad, blasphemous thing that I'm just not going to say. But like the mildest form of criticism of Christ in Judaism is that he was like a misunderstanding.

a rabbi, basically, that his followers just didn't really know what was going on and that Christ was actually preaching Judaism and that his followers misunderstood him. That's like the absolute most charitable Jewish interpretation of Christ's life and activities. But there's a bunch of other crazy stuff. Much of the argument of the Jewish attempt at refuting Christianity is the refusal to accept the completeness of the Trinity. It just doesn't, I really see that Judaism in the medieval texts does not understand the thorough completeness and unity of the Trinity. Like there's one passage in the text, Vyera I Love. It equates the father-son relationship between God, the Father, and Christ.

They equate that relationship to a human relationship. They don't understand why Christ is what he would say what he would say. In Vyashv Yaakov, they claim that Jesus was hanged. So at multiple points in this text, they don't actually admit that Christ was crucified. They claim that Christ was hanged. In Velle Shemot, they claim that Jesus knew magic from Egypt and that he had spent two years there. And they follow this up. You'll like this one, Stormy.

The rabbis say that 10 measures of magic came down into the world from Egypt. Egypt took nine. Egypt took nine of these for itself and the rest of the world took one. I just thought that was a very eerie statement. The formal refutation of the, so the Christians argue that the Shema prayer is actually an argument for the Trinity. If you look at the English text of it, I'm not going to say it because it's heresy. There is a Trinity in this. It's Deuteronomy 64.

Their refutation of this is that Deuteronomy 6.5 says, Lord your God, which is only two names, and therefore, because the line after it has two names and the first line has three, that the shema isn't actually a Trinity. You know, it's these kind of semantic BS word games. And the argumentation against Christ just, it just continues to get worse and worse. And I say these so people just have like a better understanding of how weak Jewish counterarguments to Christianity are. strangely while criticizing baptism. So basically Jews say in this text, what sort of sin and impurity is removed by baptism? That's crazy, even from a Jewish perspective,

because Jews have the mikva, which is a ritual bath of water that they go into before Yom Kippur before repentance. So this is like a deliberate, I mean, they're just pretending not to misunderstand. Yep, 100%. Another thing. Yeah, go ahead.

I was going to pivot to demon worship in Judaism. I'll wrap it up in just like another minute or two. I'll just finish this out. So Christ fasts for 40 days. And then they ask a stupid question, what kind of God needs human food and drink? So this doesn't even rise to the level of like an historian heresy, where they can comprehend like a separation between the divine. in the human components of God. It's just a blatant understanding to, like a,

they're deliberately choosing not to understand that there's any kind of divinity in here. It's like a kindergartner's argument against it. Right. You know, another element, even in the language, they can't differentiate between familial siblings and siblings in Christ. So they look at Isaiah and they see that there are brothers and sisters in Christ, and they say, well, you know, Christ doesn't have any siblings.

And then they also, there's like a chapter in the, like, I think it's 52 or 53, where Christ has children, you know, the and then they, they say, oh, well, and Rabbi Tobias Singer, even in the 21st century, makes this argument. Well, Christ didn't have children. So how can, you know, that prophecy is false. Well, they're not literal children. And even in the Hebrew, relations between familial sylvan, like, you can have a abstract sibling, like a brotherhood or a sisterhood. And you also can have like a godson or a godchild. You can have a non-literal child or sibling in Judaism. So further, like every single one of Christ's miracles in the New Testament, they just minimize all of them.

They say some really sacrilegious stuff about the Mark account of Jesus' body and blood. And they say they basically just they choose not to understand it. When they say that there's the Jesus, when Christ encounters, was the Samaritan woman at the well, Samarian woman at the well. The argument is why does God need to drink water? You know, it's just these stupid arguments over and over and over again. Well, I wouldn't expect anything different. That specifically is another Gnostic argument.

Exactly, right? Denying of the flesh? Yep. The tablet magazine's August 14th, 2012 story, the Talmud and its many demons. marriage everyone to read it. Chief among those demons, most interestingly, is Joseph, the founder of Israel, according to the Talmud, is a demon.

This is from my Jewish learning. Joseph the demon actually appears elsewhere in the Babylonian Talmud, in Trasate Pesachim, where we encounter two of his teachings, but we also have evidence of Joseph from a non-Talmudic source of the same time period. A clay bowl, ascribed, in Aramaic with incantations against danger and dangerous demons.

They differentiate. On this one bull, the scribes list a number of powerful rabbis who historically fought against the threat of dangerous demons. And one of those listed is none other than Rabbi Joseph the Demon. Joseph the Demon is a rabbinic informant and teacher of the rabbis. or perhaps even a rabbi himself. In their discussion of the laws of Sabat and the limits of it, then these rabbis are so confident in the amazing power

and welcome of the rabbinic community that they assume that everyone in the world, human and spirit, would want to be a part of it. Now, that's a big tent, exclamation point. Well, let's go to also my Jewish learning study on demons, Dybix, D-Y-B-B-U-K-S, the thing that Lex Wexner, child rapists, and Israeli intelligence asset, and also owner of Victoria's Secret, says in his 1985 interview with the New Yorker, lives in his head and was put in his head when he was very young by a rabbi.

And it's the Dybic that tells him to do things. and will suddenly wake him up at night and urge him in certain directions this way and the other, and it leads to him making good business decisions and besting his rivals, and, and he probably has to feed it children. But here we go. As compared with other ancient near eastern texts in which demons play a central role, the Bible is nearly silent about the experience of, sorry, existence of supernatural beings, but not the Talmud. The Talmud has a rich, sometimes vague demonology.

Houses of study, I guess it's synagogues, are described as being full of demons. And when sexual energy is not properly channeled overflowing with demons, great rabbis are able to perceive the demons sitting on the right and left hand of every person they are able to harness the divine creative energies of these demons to create animals which can be consumed for food and in the talmudic words in the tametic world spirits are everywhere they haunt dark places homes even the crumbs left on the dinner table For example, consider the omnipresence and the omnivialence of demons described in the Talmud. It has been taught, Abba Benjamin says.

If the eye had the power to see them, no creature could endure the demons. They are more numerous than we are, and they surround us like the ridge around the field. Every one among us has thousands to his left and take. 10,000 students to his right. The crushing crowd lectures, I'm sorry, the crushing crowd of the Kala lectures come from them. Fatigue in the knees comes from them. Rarely does the Talmudic literature go into detail

about how exactly demons and magical creatures come into being or whether they are really independent beings. Right. But there's reason to think that the text, of the burkut are not referring to metaphorical demons, as it would go on to say, if one wants to discover them, let him take sifted ash and sprinkle it around his bed, and in the morning, he will see something like the footprints of a rooster. Unlike the Talmud, Kabbalistic demonology is more detailed. Some demons are formed. Whenever man improperly spills his sea,

in sin, porno. Also, onanism, story of Onan from the Bible. Yep. The same Ababiniamen, sorry if you've already read this,

he says in a Berkhot shish, in another baritah was taught that Ababiniamen says, if the aisle was given permission to see, no creature would be able to

withstand the abundance and ubiquity of the demons and continue to live unaffected by them. Oh, boy, isn't that the fucking truth. You know, and I mean, okay, like, like... Wait, real quick, hold on. Yeah, go ahead.

Other demons are, as in the Christian myth, rebellious angels, or in the case of Lilith, who appears throughout the Talmud, primordial humans who were disobeyed in the divine plan. All right. Hold on. Where am I? photos. There we go. I have another lovely bit of Talmud to read you. Where are you, Miss Lilith?

Oh, the search real quick. Ha-ha. But, um, oh yeah, here's another one, but you might find interesting, a lovely passage. We're talking about demons. Um, and Satan in particular, It says nice things about him. Where it talks about how Satan came and here we go. The Bava Batra 16A. I, Samuel 1, 6. Hanna upset with Hannah in order to motivate her to pray. Rav Afabar Yaakov taught this in the Papayana. And Satan came to kiss his feet, the rabbi, in gratitude for speaking so positively about him.

That's odd. But yes, there is something to seeing them. Once a man sees them, he is, what did the passage say? Oh, it was. Sorry a lot. That one hit home. It was like he would basically be overwhelmed by all of them. No, I think it said something else.

Could you read it? If you can find it, I can find it. It was, yeah, here we go. Oh, yeah, here we go. If the eye was given. If the eye was given permission to see, no creature would be able to withstand the abundance and ubiquity of the demons and continue to live unaffected by them. Yeah, the living unaffected by them is the fucking truth.

Yeah, like the Hebrew word for demons is literally harmful beings. Anything that causes decay, pain, and to please. So I guess there's a few. Think of Chris Langen again, chaos and what his thing is with evil incoherence. Like these are kind of stupid counterpoints, but I want to bring them up because somebody will, I think, naturally think of them. Yeah, there's some atheoid somewhere. Like one such thing is, well, the Jews knew about all these things

because they have such an ancient religion and they're just documenting encounters with demons. You know, they have access to the spiritual realm, but they're putting this information out there to advise people not to do it. the argument, like the former Jew and me would make the argument, you know, most of the Talmud is trying to get people to stay away from demons. Is that true? No.

But I mean, I guess that's just what would come into mind. Because like the preventative measures for this, I found out of no more interesting. Well, it's not true. Well, it's not true because, okay, like just objectively, all the different rabbis and all the different eras are encountering Hellenism. They're synchronizing syncretism. And Greco-Egyptian magic. Right. They're incorporating all of these different elements into the religion. There's not like a strict delineation. Like going back to earlier, like Christianity is actively looking at this stuff and saying, we're not going to do this. We're looking at all

this evil this around us. That has to stay out. It has to stay out. And yes, there are like Christian Gnostic sects or whatever, but it's not the main thrust of Christianity. It is the main, right? The reason, did you just say, do you say, I just saw the chat? Wait, Dibbix means soul possessors? Yeah. Oh, that's gnarly. Yeah.

Oh, so Lex Waxner has a soul possessor in there. That's nice. Yeah, and there's actually, I mean, people. I guess it's what it costs to be a, uh, a, uh, a millionaire. If you look at stories, this, gosh, so if you look at Jewish stories, if you look at Jewish stories of Eastern Europe, like, it's not like once in a blue moon, you'll find a duke. It's, it's that you're, you're stepping them, you're stepping on them on the way of the trash, right? You're like in the kitchen and they're all around you. They're, um, this is this very, very present form of things. I mean, it's, uh, okay, like, there's this.

article, it's also from my Jewish learning. You know, I'm learning a lot tonight. So, okay, I'll just read this to you. In a dibbch instance or possession, one soul sticks to another. Perhaps the departed soul is sinister and the living person innocent. Conversely, the departed soul may have been saintly but wronged by the living. In this case, the possession by a debug is essentially punishment or revenge for an improper act. or apparently possession may also happen at random.

There's like people wrote plays about this. Here we go. In the Lurianic Kabbalah, there's also, sometimes the soul of a departed, righteous person, may impregnate the soul of a living person. This is called an Ibor. It's usually a positive, not a negative. Sometimes a righteous soul undergoes it so it can complete a task or perform a mitzvah. Sometimes it does so for the benefit of the host

soul. Really, it is no different from possession than a deaic, but practically speaking, they are polar opposites. In all of these cases, the ordinary processes of life energy are being diverted for other positive or negative reasons, and life energy above all is powerful. When put to proper ends, the transmission of life energy by any means of sex or supernatural activity is the godly act of maintaining the cosmic flow, but anything that powerful can also create great evil. Then it goes into like the story of the golem and you know, it's a whole another freaking, I mean, most people know the golem of Prague, but that's another.

It's like, yeah. Another one of these demons besides Lilith, who I can get into a later date, not tonight, is Endor, a witch. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. No. It's a very evil old woman. Here. I just saw it because there's a.

specific listener that I think will be listening to this that really doesn't like evil old women demons I mean does anyone so hopefully no no I also hope I can find something for him and I have another like another like gay counterpoint but I just this is stuff that when I hear you talk on other podcasts occurring in the heat which of Endor occurring in the Hebrew Bible was consulted by Saul to summon the spirit of the prophet Samuel. She's a necromancer. Saul wished to receive advice on defeating the Philistines in battle after prior attempts to consult God through sacrifices and sacred lots and other means had failed.

However, what was summoned, whether the actual ghost of Samuel was, or a spirit impersonating him, the latter, delivered a prophecy of doom against Saul and his armies, who were defeated, per the prophecy. So apparently, wait, why does this person, why does this person in my Jewish learning, tell me why this person has a, this evil witch has a repeat presence

in Judaism, the Ebor. There are other possessions, possibilities that may happen as well. A soul may visit a person during sleep, bringing messages from beyond or prophecies about the future, or it may haunt a place. As in popular stories, sometimes the soul of a departed righteous person

may impregnate the soul of a living person. The process is described by Lariana Kabbala. That's the gnarly one with all the black magics is, well, they're both gross and heretical and should be burned. But the Lurianic Kabbal is what gave us our lovely Shabbat friends. Yeah, I just want to say a few more words about that. Because if people, there might be people that are listening to this thinking like, well, okay, you're looking at some like doctrine and this is medieval history or whatever.

When I lived in Israel, I actually met one of these rabbis. and what he did was really interesting. One of my friends at the time was complaining about evil spirits in the house. You know, just couldn't sleep right. Nothing was going right. His life was a mess. And what the rabbi did was the rabbi came into the house. And, you know, he made the friend sit on like a very specific chair.

And then he went around the entire house, rearranging all of the objects within the house. Like all the furniture had to be moved to different places. And all the little things that were stacked everywhere had to all be like laid out a very certain way. And there was, you know, there's number. The count is involved. And also like there's certain things that are said like incantations. And this is not regarded there as some like woo woo madonna crystal magic crap.

Like this is very serious stuff to the Chabadix. And also, um, that probably sounds a lot like feng shui who in Western. culture is exactly what Farler just described. Dumb crystal bitches, like Madonna, whatever. In China, Feng Shui is a type of magic, a very, very, very serious magic that involves the summoning of removing of spirits and demons. So, yeah, there is another reference.

We were talking about mysticisms and demonology. of the East finding their way into Judaism. I think that is a lovely place for one to look. I bet you you could mine a lot of information out of there. Because what you just described is identical to the Chinese magic of feng shui, which unfortunately, it's just been, the word has just been shot out by crystal bitches and burning man faggots. But that is not how the Chinese see it.

It is very serious business. And you might also have a natural follow-up, question listener, which is how do these Jewish and Chinese cultures meet in the ancient world? Well, the answer is the Silk Road. Like those sources I brought up earlier, from Hecataius to Theo Frustratus and Indica of Megastanese, all of these different ancient Greek rulers, they knew about India. They did trade with India. They knew of these cultures. They were writing with primary sources, the Greek world in its trade routes stretched all the way to India. And this is not a one-way street.

I've been to an art museum, an Asian art museum. I won't say which city. But there is a Hellenized statue of Christ that they actually found in India about 200 years after the life of Christ. And you might also ask, well, how the heck

do, how can you prove that Jews got to India? There is pottery. Well, because the Indians are so fucking Jewish. Sorry. They really Well, there's like a Yeah, let's see here

I won't be able to You know, I won't waste time Googling it But there's this little handmade Chinese statue From about the year 600 BC And it's a statue of a Jewish merchant With a giant patch of a pack of goods And they found it right smack dab In the middle of China

And so Jews were going to China At this time And actually, if you look into What Jews consider lost tribes. This is like some other whack lore, but there is supposedly, just as there are lost tribes of Jews in Ethiopia. There are lost tribes of Judaism within India as well as within China. These are supposedly Jewish sects of people that have continued their tradition since the Jewish merchants went there along the Silk Road. And I think it's very apparent that a lot of these

primary source Hellenistic writers, they're not just bouncing theology between like a binary of Christianity and Hellenism or pagan items. I mean, I think that narrows the field to what it actually was. I think it's quite apparent that there are further Eastern ideas that are circulating among people. People, I mean, if you look at a map, the Babylonian world was further east than people can imagine in their minds. I mean, this was this broad world and also that the climate was different, that it existed in a time where the Middle East was not as dry as it was today. It was much more wet, which means, you know, it's a lot easier to pass across these different areas. The geography was quite different. So I guess I'm just kind of going, but I mean, I think it's very important

that people get an understanding of why this is like a problem because another counterargument and I don't even want to dignify it by calling it a counter argument. People will just say like, yeah, so what? You know, I can go to the bookstore and I can get tarot cards and I can get all this other stuff. Like I can do a seance. I can get, you know, I can type AI stuff. I can whatever.

I think, I mean, my personal opinion here is as an orthodox Christian, you don't do any of it. There's no crystal stuff. There's no Toro stuff. Anything that you do, it is explicitly Christian or you don't touch it. And it's not because of some superstition. And it's certainly not because of any kind of ignorance of the evil of this. I think this is actually an overfamiliarization of the evils of magic. If you look at the church fathers, they're very, very explicit in warning people about this stuff. And all of this, I think, has like the same metaphysical origin point of being, I don't know if this is the right term for it, Stormy, but it's like a portal to evil. I've seen a lot of articles to make it a little bit

more relevant to the modern day now. I've seen a lot of articles of people that will start thinking their profits because they type stuff to AI and they'll kill themselves and they'll be all kinds of crazy things that will happen. And I think, you know, one point that you've said on your podcast with Astral, which is excellent. I recommend people listen to it. And I don't, Astro, if you're listening to this, I understand why you wouldn't trust me. Like, I think you almost, like, no one ever really meets a Jewish, sincere Jewish convert to Christianity. So I don't hold him against him. Um, I think when you look at the nature of this magic, you don't have to do magic deliberately with evil in mind. It's the mechanism. When you open yourself up to this stuff,

evil flows through it to you. You don't channel it. I mean, this is another part that the rabbis talk about over and over and over again. The reason you're setting up all these wards against all these different demonic influences within Judaism. And some of it's crazy. Some of it's like, don't take a piss between a palm tree and the wall of your house if it's two cubits wide because you let the demons in. That's how legalistic a lot of the Wilkot stuff gets. and looking within the Mishnah, like a vast majority of it is mundane law,

but a lot of it is these just rules protecting people over and over and over and over again. And they don't just do that just because the priest cast is extremely aware of, I'm not going to say how to control evil, but they know how it enters and they know, they know exactly how it spreads through people. And if you look at the Old Testament, I mean, there's a lot of smiting. There's a lot of smiting going on. So kind of rambling a little bit there. But I'm very, you know, one thing I really appreciate about Orthodox Christianity and other forms of Christianity is you don't touch all this stuff.

I mean, even the like satanic panic or the whole like don't read Harry Potter, it's Satanism. People laugh at that stuff, but then to bring it back to the start, look at this tranny shooter from earlier today. This can't be explained through some stupid materialist or purely psychological reason. This is not just like a simple, oh, this person took pill, they went a little nuts and they got angry at someone. This is just, it's an unleashed demon. You can't really see it as any other way. And also, if you notice, the thing, I mean, this just got me so mad. The mayor of Minneapolis went on TV and said, don't pray for the kids, Jewish mayor.

You know, that, I don't even have the words for how angry it is. I don't want to yell into my mic because it's not good. That's funny because one of the Krasenstein brothers happened to say the exact same thing. Don't pray. Pray prayer started this. don't pray. Why are all the Jews suddenly on the same page about how to respond to this? That's really weird.

Brian Krastenstein says the exact same thing. And I believe he said it right before. I think I just, here, let me shut my timeline. I mean, just to spell it out while you're finding it, to make it very plain,

there's not like a telegram group where the Krasnstein brothers and the mayor of Minneapolis are coordinating messaging to each other. There's no Emily's list here. This is not like a centralized message that's being put out. This is like an automatic reaction. And you really have to think spiritually about where this reaction is coming from. Because it's not where is it. Um, there we go.

11 hours ago, praying is the problem here, not the solution. People use prayer instead of action. If prayers work, a house of prayer wouldn't have just gotten shot up. I bet you he wouldn't say that if that was a solution. synagogue absolutely not it makes me well yeah well one of the one of the things we're seeing is the immediate politicization of this so the um like laura lumer of course i mean just a complete an utter psychopath and you know somebody that please don't let it if you have kids and she's around hide them um well apparently you definitely shouldn't campaign for her

either. Yeah. The, apparently the, this shooter allegedly, I don't really believe anything until, you know, someone I trust tells me as true, had a whole bunch of anti-Jewish stuff written out too. And so the Jews are making this about them. Screw the Christian, yeah, screw the Catholics that died. Yeah, he just happened to say, the shooter happened to say, uh,

two or three anti-Semitic phrases before opening up apparently. But yet kills a bunch of Christians, drives past a synagogue, and this is all about Jews. Jewish politicians' house, drive past literally Jewish community centers, drive past all these places to go shoot up Christians, but just happens to say something anti-Semitic before shooting. He literally has anti-Christian stuff written on his rifle. That makes me super suspicious, considering who the guy's mom is.

well and also the um he drove apparently he drove past the holocaust museum too oh man of which i assume minneapolis uh probably has 20 considering how old the jewish community the oldest jewish um daily newspaper in the united states was it was in minnesota was minneapolis at minneapolis They're having a real problem there with, I mean, it's basically like Jewish versus Somali political control. I mean, the Democrats there are a vast majority of them are Jewish. And they're running into. Their columns are attacked. Well, I mean, this is like what happens.

I mean, Stormy, I told you the whole story of like the Prague Golem. And, you know, for people that don't know, like, I guess, okay, I bring up all this like, magic and Judaism and stuff and people are going to be like, wow, I'm going to go look at it. And it sounds very trite and ass covering, but don't look at this stuff. Like, I became a Christian to avoid all this stuff. Like, you're looking at like real genuine evil. This is not, this is not like casual crystal magic. I mean, this stuff, I mean, destroys souls.

It'll take your soul. You know, don't listen to me. Listen to the saints on it. But anyway, so the goal. the Prague Golem story. So essentially, uh, this,

there's about to be a pogrom in Prague, I think was the original lore. And they built this golem out of clay, these two rabbis and they have like, all the rabbis and the golem and everything, they all have like, uh, Kabbalistic names.

And if you look into the names of it, I'd have to scroll back on our chat. But you can see very obviously this is not like, any, Theology this is all Kabbala and so they build a gold amount of clay. It's like easily 10 stories tall and They sick it on the Goy population of Prague and it goes and it supposedly in Jewish lore Smites everyone who is going to harm the Jews so the mindset is

The people that are out there that are going to harm the Jews are like pure unsavable evil. So it'll just go and kill them all And then, lo and behold, this evil entity, it keeps killing. The people that summoned this thing, the rabbi and the rabbi student, they can't contain it. So eventually they're saying enough incantations to bring this thing to heal, and they strike a character of a word that's carved on its forehead to change its definition to remove the spirit from the clay. and then as they do that, they cover it with pages of the Siddur's, the Siddulim.

Those are all the prayer books that are used in congregations. And then they store the thing in the attic of the synagogue in case they need to get it again sometime. But, God, when I just say, when I spill it out, it's just so, you know, I just don't quite know what to make of it. It's so, uh, this is not like a godly thing that's happening here. And when you're born and raised Jewish like I was, you don't question it. And there's not like, oh, hey, this is really weird.

You know, what does this thing mean? What is that? You know, what is the role of non-Jewish people? You know, it's a whole separate topic. Christians are not really viewed well, you know, but don't take my word for it. You can check out the, uh, there is a Greek Orthodox, bit and she was on Tucker's show recently

explaining exactly how the Israelis were treating her and so you just have to like bear that in mind you know the Christian Zionists take Judaism very seriously and very solemnly but they really have no concept of how it goes the other way so

yeah I think we've been going run we're on CR I think that's a good place to put a plug on it yeah yeah we can we can know return to this because unfortunately I think that things were only escalating and every once in a while we are going to need, well, often we're going to need reminders of, you know, what exactly is causing this. And there's one final point I'll say. Sure, go ahead.

Which is, you know, we've talked about all the magic stuff. We've talked about all the Jewish stuff. Like, what can people do about it? I mean, I hope you believe that at least someone somewhere takes this. The opposite of what Crescentine says. pray or go on you need to well exactly you need to pray you need to go to church i am sorry to pagan people that are listening but you have to have face in christ i think from what i can tell you can't make up your own god to be hot topic edgy contrarian guy christ is the only thing that can fight this well it's the only thing that they all hate yeah exactly they all hate What are pagans, Jews, demons, what do they all have in common? They hate Christ?

They hate Christians. Yeah, but why? If you're a pagan and you got the real thing or whatever that you just made up, what does Christianity matter to you? If you're the chosen people and God pick you personally, then what the fuck do you care about Christians for? if you're a demon you live forever outside of time and space what do you care about what faith the little earthlings right with their small temporal lives do with it what do you care if they're

Christians or not what do you care if they're you didn't care whether they're pagans you didn't care whether they're Jews in fact you really like both of those why is Christ the single an only common denominator between any of these completely separate and dispersed things why is hating Christ so fundamental to things that should have nothing to do with one another why should a demon give a fuck

about what you pray to Christ is the only thing that dispels evil period what is evil chaos, incoherence, entropy. If you want to, if people want to know, look, the people who are practicing this stuff, they're pretty open about it, okay?

If you just, they wear tiny little hats. Well, you don't, you may believe that they do this stuff just as some kind of ritual and it doesn't mean anything. but if anybody wants to see something that's pretty unexplainable I'll link to it in the show notes go to YouTube top type Godd as G-O-T-T-T-H-A-R-D tunnel opening ceremony June 1st 2016 oh this is a certain thing yeah this is the opening ceremony of the largest tunnel in I think in the world And just watch.

Yep. They had a similar opening ceremony for CERN, by the way. Yeah. The Large Hydron Collider. But this one. Same. Go on. This one is, it's inexplicable.

Other than it's just, it's just a larp, bro. Europe's elite. They're just playing around. Europe's elites came to this tunnel. and cheered on this opening ceremony. Just go watch it. Goddard Tunnel opening ceremony, June 1st, 2016.

They're not hiding it. There's an article on it in the BBC with all the pictures. And it's just like, it's just insane. It's some crazy insane shit. All right, gentlemen, I'm going to say good night. Thank you very much for joining me. I appreciate it. Absolutely is a pleasure.