The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1265: Weaponized Migration in Japan w/ LoneStarr85
Episode Date: September 11, 202564 MinutesPG-13Lonestarr85 is an American who has lived in Japan for 17 years.Pete invited Lonestarr85 to come on the show and talk about the foreign groups trying to flood Japan with "refugees" and "...workers" from the Asian subcontinent.Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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How you doing, man?
I'm doing all right, Pete.
How are you?
Doing well.
Tell everybody a little bit about yourself.
This is an interesting conversation we're going to have here.
Yeah, yeah.
So I am an American expats living in Japan.
I've been living in Japan a little over 17 years now.
Time definitely flies really, really fast.
It's flown by.
But yeah, I'm originally from Texas, but yeah, from a young age, just really had an interest in, you know, history, other cultures.
And, yeah, after graduating from college, just decided to, you know, take an adventure.
I came over here and, yeah, pretty much been here ever since.
So that's, that's wild.
Yeah.
Um, that's something, that's got to be a lot of easier to do when you're young.
Can you see yourself doing that now?
Like if you lived your whole life here and you just, yeah.
Oh man.
Just the thought of, you know, even, you know, going back to the States, uh, would, it
would be an endeavor for sure, you know, because I've established a lot over here.
But, um, it is something I've, I have thought about, you know, especially in the last five years
or so.
It's been on my minds about going back, I guess.
But, yeah, I just have to figure out, you know, lay out a plan and figure out what I would do next.
But, I mean, life's pretty comfortable here, to be honest.
It hasn't been a bad experience.
That's why, you know, I've been here as long as I have.
But things are changing a bit.
So yeah, it's it has has got me thinking about, about going back.
Yeah, I guess that's something we're going to talk about.
So I asked you, you hadn't, you hadn't done any kind of streaming or recording in over a year.
And I know you, you know, you had your own YouTube channel and you did it.
So tell me like five years ago, you interviewed John McAfee.
I did.
Yeah.
What did he reveal on your show?
Oh, man.
So it was during a time.
where he was, I guess, on the run or, you know, he was trying to keep his location,
you know, pretty much anonymous. And so I wasn't actually sure where I was, you know,
where he was when I was speaking with him. But he was doing, you know, sort of, I guess, a podcast
tour, speaking with a lot of people. And I just decided to reach out and have a chat with him.
at the time I was, you know, doing a podcast where I would just talk to either other expats in Japan,
how they got here, you know, what their life was like, as well as, you know, just people in general who, you know,
traveled abroad, lived abroad.
But I had, you know, kind of followed McAfee for many years.
And he was a very interesting character.
So I, you know, decided to reach out to him and they agreed.
So, yeah, I got him off.
And that was an interesting chat.
He was a little bit all over the place.
But he did reveal some interesting ideas he had regarding, you know,
blockchain technology and, you know, kind of, I think, you know,
recording history on the blockchain.
So it can't be, you know, influenced by, you know, outside influencers, right?
And this was, I guess, maybe a few months or a year before, you know, his death.
So, yeah, I actually feel pretty lucky we got to chat with him before that.
Chat it with him in DMs on Twitter a couple of times.
He's just an absolute lunatic.
It's like one of those people that's interesting to watch from a distance,
you definitely don't want him anywhere near you.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wild.
So, yeah, I think that you may have taken a little bit of the same path I took.
It was probably a little bit more libertarian at one time.
And then probably noticed a bunch of things.
Did 2020 affect you over there?
Yes.
So that was actually kind of what.
started the shift to where I am now, to be honest with you. I was, you know, pretty much fairly
libertarian most of my adult life. You know, I kind of my political awakening when I was young was
9-11. I was in high school at the time. That really got me kind of paying attention to world
events, politics and whatnot. It was pretty much, you know, against the Iraq war. I guess
back then I was, you know, pretty typical, like a liberal, I guess.
But around 2008, you know, the Obama election and everything is actually when I really first came
over here.
And I was pretty much neutral on that.
I was leaving America at the time.
I was like, I don't really care what happens.
That was my thinking.
But what kind of led me down more of the libertarian path was just seeing the hypocrisy.
of the Obama administration.
And what really kind of clicked for me then was, you know, continuing the war on terror,
the drone strikes on Americans and then, you know, getting a Nobel Peace Prize on top of that.
So I was like, you know, something's messed up here.
And yeah, I kind of went down the rabbit hole of libertarianism, anarcho capitalism even, you know,
listened to a lot of Stefan Molinue.
you know, guys like that, you know, that's actually how I came across, you know, you at one point when you're doing the free man be on the wall.
And but fast forward a bit, I would say, yeah, 2020 really, really affected another shift.
So unlike other countries, Japan was fairly relaxed, I would say, in terms of how they treated, you know, the pandemic and COVID and all that.
locally. They closed the borders down. So there was no incoming, you know, no tourism, no
immigration. Everything had stopped at that time. Even if you were a foreign resident here and you
needed to go back to your home country, there were really strong restrictions on even coming back
into the country, even if you were married to a Japanese national or anything like that. So
during those, those years, I stayed here in Japan. But in terms of any like hard lock,
lockdowns or mandates or anything.
It was there, nothing was mandated by the government.
I think constitutionally they couldn't do that.
And, but how the culture is here, people just take suggestions as mandates in a way.
So, you know, there was the social distancing.
Everyone was wearing, you know, the face masks.
I mean, Japan was kind of a mass culture anyway, even before that, but it really picked
up during that time.
Some places were pretty ridiculous.
You'd even go to an outdoor restaurant,
but you'd have to wear a mask on the way to the table
and then you could take it off.
So there was a lot of weirdness there.
But yeah, nothing was really like, you know,
forced upon the people here.
People just kind of complied just by the recommendations.
So but what really kind of made the shift was just seeing
what was happening elsewhere in the world, you know, how the governments were reacting to that.
And, yeah, I just, you know, I just thought everything had gone completely insane at the time.
So, yeah.
But, yeah, go ahead.
Well, I think what happens is you convince yourself that everybody else wants what you want.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's like, oh, everybody just, you know, giving the chance.
to be to be free everybody wants to be free and then something comes along like that and you're like
no people are waiting around to be told what to do and what to believe yeah and it's really a very
small group that is going to be like no they're going to be questioning exactly what's going on but um
once you see the masses act the way they do then you're like oh now i understand
and why fences need to be built in order to corral people because they're dangerous if they're
not corralled.
Right.
And that's, you know, I've heard you speak about, you know, the like the friend, enemy,
you know, distinction there.
And that really kind of clicked for me during that time because, you know, a lot of the same
people who used to say they believed in, you know, freedom of speech or freedom of movement
or anything like that were some of the first people to want to, you know, put unvaxed people into,
you know, camps or, you know, talk like that, right? And I just thought the hypocrisy was there,
but also like these people are dangerous, you know, if these people have any sort of power,
they'll be the first ones to, you know, put you in those camps, right? So,
I've seen what's happening in, you know, Australia, some parts of the U.S.
I wasn't quite sure what was going on in the UK at the time, but I'm, you know, pretty sure it was, it was pretty bad.
So, yeah.
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Well, one of the things we were talking about Japan,
Japan, from what I understand, this is the way it's been,
described to me is, is that basically after World War II, they were forced to adopt the American
Constitution. And America holds them to it. So like, while we're here completely shredding it,
ignoring it, no one can, no one pays attention to it anymore, it's actually imposed upon
them. So they actually, I mean, it helps that they have a high trust society. It's mostly,
you know, for, for the most part, it's overwhelmingly, um,
monocultural and monoracial, it's one of the things we'll be talking about.
But yeah, it just seems like they have the, they have liberty there, the liberty of the
constitution, basically of the founding.
And it's, you know, because they're a high trust society and because they're sort of
forced to because of the war, that, yeah, it's a much freer and much freer.
place. I think it has less to do with the Constitution than it has to do with just Japanese people
being there. But I think there's some influencer. Yeah, it's, you know, it's not exactly,
you know, word for word, you know, copy of the U.S. Constitution. It's still a, I guess, a constitutional
monarchy. They still have an emperor. You know, they have a prime minister pretty much as the head of
the government. But a lot of U.S. influence was imposed on Japan.
post-war. You know, they were forced to, you know, get rid of their military. They have a
self-defense force that just does peacekeeping, you know, they sent people to Afghanistan.
I'm not quite sure about Iraq. I think there was some presence in Iraq, but yeah, it was
mostly just peacekeeping forces, but no active military. And then other, you know, cultural influences
by the US. So what a lot of people don't realize about Japanese history is, you know,
cannabis was actually wildly grown here up until the war. It was kind of used more in a
religious sense. But after that, yeah, they just, they completely clamp down on that,
impose, you know, those kind of Western influences on the country there.
The it was you know the economy and everything was really devastated post-war, but I would say, you know, saying about the Japanese people and the culture was a large reason why they were able to turn their economy around.
And especially up until, you know, the 1980s, they had a, you know, quite an economic boom, especially in the automotive industry.
that was, I would say, mostly influenced by the culture and the people because they had, you know, industrialized really fast, you know, less than 100 years before that.
It went from a feudal society to an industrial society in about 20 years.
And, yeah, I would say that's less so about the U.S. influence and more, yeah, cultural-based for Japan.
Yeah.
So the term I was looking for was a homogenous society.
Homogenous, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, let's jump into it.
I guess the reason one of our mutuals on Twitter said,
maybe you need to talk to this guy because it's much like many other countries,
activists in Japan, who are not from Japan,
are pushing the Japanese to bring in infinity immigrants.
And you know, you had mentioned when we were DMing
that you had actually run into one of these main culprits
at like a YouTube convention like 10 years ago or something.
So that's right.
You know, what's going on over there as far as,
looks like you got some NGO troubles?
Yeah, yeah.
So to kind of give a little bit of context about the, you know, the culture here, you're right,
it is fairly homogenous even still, even after, you know, recent years.
But it's still about 98% Japanese.
So really the foreign population is only about 2%.
And most of those foreign nationals here are other Asians, mostly Chinese, Koreans, and other
East Asians, right?
So even a small percentage of the foreign population are Westerners or people from, you know, the subcontinent or places like that, right?
But I would say it's really ramped up since the borders reopened after COVID.
But the presence of these activists have been around for much longer than that.
So I ran into this lady, Rochelle Copp.
She has been in Japan, I guess maybe 40 years.
She came around the late 80s, early 90s.
And basically she's just an activist to try and bring multiculturalism to, you know,
Japanese companies.
So she works as a consultant, business consultant works with,
I would say about 80% Japanese firms and 20% foreign firms that hire Japanese people.
But what she really pushes for is bringing multiculturalism,
changing attitudes in Japan to accept more foreign influence for companies.
Japanese companies are usually pretty conservative by nature.
But, yeah, I would say since 1994, she,
She established her management firm.
It's called Japan International Consulting.
Yeah, she started that in 1994, does seminars, coaching sessions,
and consults with large financial institutions, automotive, pharmaceutical industries,
the big companies here is what she does.
And she's written about 35 books.
So she's quite, how do you say?
prolific in her in her opinions there but yeah I would say I first she first came on my
radar I was watching some mutual YouTubers at the time who were interviewing her and what she
was doing in what she was pushing and at that time it was she was really pushing a more of a
you know bringing more female leadership into Japanese companies feminism that sort of thing
but I would say in more recent years she's shifted back to the multiculturalism and in bringing
in more people, you know, outside influence for Japanese companies.
Are these Japanese companies hiring her?
I mean, how is, how would she do?
So that's a funny story.
So she kind of created her own path in that sense.
So she said she had to create her own firm and her.
own consulting company because no one would hire her to do to do this you know people were innately
opposed or apprehensive to to this sort of thing and so she created her own firm and she she has a lot of
influence from Silicon Valley so she really wanted to bring the Silicon Valley business culture
to Japan and yeah i think she splits her time between Tokyo Silicon Valley and in Chicago right now
But when she is here, yeah, she does have her own firm and, you know, reaches out to these companies to do these sort of, you know, multicultural seminars and whatnot.
And I would say, yeah, the influence is there, at least in the last 10 years, Japan has really been pushing for ESG.
You know, a lot of these NGOs like JICA, the Japan International Cooperation Agency.
works with them a lot, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
She works very closely with them as well to kind of bring this influence to the companies in business here.
Yeah, it just, it seems odd to me that companies would hire her.
If her whole goal is one, I mean, if it starts out as feminism, well, that's not really.
with the culture there and then multiculturalism which basically means opening the borders to import
you know as much you know shitty labor as you can and i i guess the thing that i don't understand
is is why why did the japanese put up with her that's um that's interesting question i i sometimes
don't understand it uh myself but
But I would say a lot of influence also comes from foreign media, a lot of pressure from outside
of Japan, not just in the news, but pop culture.
So Japan does pride itself on exporting its own pop culture abroad, especially in the last
30 years that's really gotten popular with especially Western countries.
But they're also very influenced by Hollywood, by American news media as well.
And they see the prosperity.
They always kind of have this feeling of living in the shadow of America in a way.
A lot of people won't really admit it, but it is kind of that feeling that they need to be
like other Western countries.
that's mostly from, you know, from the government, from the media, uh, and from big business.
But even today, if you talk to, you know, your average Japanese person on the street,
they don't, they don't hate, um, you know, people from the outside. It's not, it's not that
kind of, you know, xenophobia. Um, but they are apprehensive of losing their identity and
their culture that the average everyday Japanese person does have that concern. And it, again, it goes
back culturally. So there are 98% Japanese. They are an island country. And so that's isolating in
itself. And then there was actually, you know, a period a few hundred years ago where they were
completely closed off to all outside influence, except for just minor trade deals with, I think,
the Dutch and the Portuguese. Right. And it wasn't until, you know, like the 1860s.
where they were pretty much forced to open up to out to the outside of world.
That did help them.
You know, they took in a lot of British and German influence at the time and really industrialized,
again, in about 20 years, went from a feudal agricultural society to an industrial society.
But they still kept their Japanese identity and their cultural hegemony as well.
But yeah, I would say since, you know, the post-war, they became more global, you know, adopted globalism.
That's, you know, part of the rise of their, their industry, especially in the automotive industry.
And I would say electronics to some extent, but the Koreans kind of, you know, took over in that market a bit for them.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's really just in the trend in the last 30, 40 years that they've been really good.
going more multicultural and being more influenced by the West, particularly.
And then I would say that they're, yeah, it's mostly just pushed by the government and the media
and against really the feelings and the wishes of the people.
Yeah, I'm actually running a search right now to find out, you know, the question I always have
when this happens, when you have somebody who goes to a country.
no ties to it, where they get their financing from.
Who's paying there?
You know, you always hear these stories about, I've heard this over and over again,
about, oh, these three brothers came from the Pala settlement in Russia.
And for five years, they just worked hard every single day and squirled away their pennies.
And five years later, they bought half the land in the town.
Well, bullshit.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
You know, it's, I, there is no, like, I had Grock run.
There's no, like, how, how that company was financed and started.
Japan intercultural, uh, consulting.
There is nothing there.
So I just, uh, asked Grock to see if her parents were rich or something like that.
And that's how it started.
But yeah, I mean, see, this is, I catch crap.
all the time for noticing that whenever something like this happens in a nation of 98%
Japanese and then the overwhelming majority of the other 2% is from Asian countries,
that a fraction of a little fraction of the population, someone or someone's stands out
and wants to change that.
and that they always come from the same background.
And I get in trouble for that.
It's like, I mean, all that is is pattern recognition.
It's like, okay, all 80% of Mao's advisors were from one ethnic group.
Okay.
How does that happen?
Mao, China?
These people know about China.
Well, what do they know about Japan?
How did this person end up here?
And why do they want to turn every homogenous country into a fucking mud soup of, you know,
bringing in subcontinentals from everywhere?
Why do they want to do this?
So, I mean, I guess that's something that you've also noticed.
I guess you've noticed it too, that it's.
Their background is always, whether it's religious, but normally, it's like atheist, ethnic,
what a ethnic Jew.
Yeah.
What the hell, man.
Yeah.
And lo and behold, yeah, she is Ashkenazi background.
So that was the first, you know, little ding moment that I got with her.
There are other players.
There was, there was an American guy here for about 30.
years who became a naturalized Japanese citizen and he I looked into his
background he's he was definitely more of European Anglo background he goes by
Debito so that was his his Japanese name that he changed to became a citizen
here but basically for 30 years he would just complain it's all it was is
just complaining about discrimination
against foreigners in Japan and, you know, actively suing, you know,
organizations and companies for discrimination.
What his big, you know, first deal was, was he wanted to go to, you know, a Japanese bath,
an onsen, public bath, and they traditionally, they associate tattoos here with, you know,
the yakuza gang activity.
So usually people with tattoos are banned from these public baths.
And he made a big stink about that and was trying to, you know, push for more acceptance of, you know, tattoos and whatnot.
But I would say in his later years, he would just push for things like microaggressions.
That's the first time I heard the term microaggression was from this guy.
And I just, even, you know, more than 10 years ago, I just kind of shook my head and thought,
you're just making shit up at this point, you know, what is a microaggression, right?
And, you know, along with him and then with this cop lady.
So I would say she's, you know, kind of a more insidious influence because it's more behind the scenes.
It's not, you know, just in your face, you know, Japan needs to change.
It's more, it's more subtle.
It's more, okay, we all need to get along.
We all need to be, you know, accepting of each other, accepting of people who are different than us.
this kind of mother hen sort of language was used.
So it appeals, that appeals to people in some way.
You know, it tugs at people's heartstrings, you know, they think,
oh, you know, we don't need to, you know, hate these people.
We need to accept diversity.
We need to be more in line with other countries and be accepted by the West
and in turn accept the same sort of policies that they have.
I would say what she does is a bit more insidious in that way because she's not very aggressive in that.
She does push for people to sue companies for discrimination, though.
There was a story about a Muslim woman she was pushing to sue for discrimination.
I'm not 100% sure of the details on that one, but I do know that there is some push for suing these companies.
for discrimination that she also supports.
When you think of Japan, I mean, when you think of pretty much any Asian country, with the
exception of Singapore, Singapore is multicultural, but it's multicultural of Asians.
And that's why they don't get along very well there.
Singapore has to be pretty much authoritarian because they will start killing each other.
Yeah.
You're going to say so.
Yeah, I was going to say about Singapore.
So it's interesting, they do have, it is multicultural, but they do have a sort of, you know, informal caste system there in itself, right?
So from what I know is, you know, there's the top earning, you know, foreign expats there.
I think you have to be in the top 5%, you know, financially in the world.
in order to become a citizen of Singapore.
They have kind of a somewhat of a middle class,
and then all the day laborers are actually kept on the city outskirts
in their own sort of, I don't know if they're necessarily called ghettos or not,
but they're usually made up of, you know, South Asians,
not East Asians, but South Asians.
And they're really only allowed to come to the city proper one day a week.
So they really, you know, regimen the day laborers either to the outskirts of the city or they allow people from Malaysia to cross the border for the day and then they have to return to Malaysia, you know, after their work is done.
But, yeah, that kind of society, it's multicultural, but it's safe and it's clean because they take such a hard stance against, you know, even, you know, petty crimes, graffiti, chewing gum.
sticking chewing them on something. Yeah, you'll, you can get a pretty harsh
punishment for that, from what I understand at least. Yeah, I'm on the,
I'm on Rich Rochelle Copps website. And it's funny, her like whole team is like overwhelmingly
Western. Yeah. And, you know, some obvious, some obvious standouts here. Yeah. I mean,
when she starts speaking like,
that. I guess the reason I got turned on to it was someone was sharing a video and interview that
she did on Japanese TV where she was, you know, saying, I mean, Barbara Learner Spectorish,
you know, I mean, Japan's not going to survive unless you open, open the gates to basically
like Indian labor. Yeah. And that's... I mean, is... Good. I was just going to say that's,
that's really another push for bringing in so much of...
you know, people from the outside is, is the birth rate. People always claim, you know,
the birth rate is declining. You know, Japan, there's not going to be a Japan in 100 years because
people just aren't having kids. That is an issue. The birth rate is declining here. You know,
younger generations aren't getting married. They're not having families. How true that really is,
you know, statistics versus, you know, what I see. What I see every day is,
families with two plus kids everywhere, people pushing strollers everywhere.
And on the ground versus, I guess, statistically, you know, I need to do a little bit more research into that.
But the point is they're using that as an excuse to do, you know, population replacement pretty much.
because they say, well, you know, if we want Japan to survive, we have to bring in, you know,
foreign workers here and to intermingle with the Japanese people.
And the thing is, and I'm speaking as a foreign resident in Japan, but they're not bringing in
the kind of people from first world countries.
It's always a push for people from the third world, right?
from India, from Bangladesh, from Nepal, Nigeria.
Now, when I first came here, there were pockets of these groups already.
I remember concentrations of people from Nigeria in certain parts of Tokyo,
but they were mostly associated with either trying to get other tourists to go to like strip clubs or to push drugs.
I know people think that's a stereotype, but that's really what they were involved with.
Outside of that, they were involved as import, export of automobiles, pretty much.
Other groups, you know, like Indians or, you know, people from, you know, the subcontinent,
I didn't really see so many of them until probably about 10 years ago.
Most were, I guess, students at the time, of course, working at convenience stores.
And I would say, though, that since about 2022, since the borders were reopened, you know, all the tourists came back.
But just the sheer amount of people from the third world, just everywhere, has increased
by and large, a lot more than what I experienced before 2020.
You can't go to any convenience store or shop or even restaurant in Tokyo right now
without at least one, two, or maybe even most of the staff being from South Asia, pretty much.
and it's just, it's mind-boggling how much it has increased just in the last three years.
So you mentioned 98% Japanese and the other, so this labor wouldn't, is not include, is that resident, is that like citizens or does that include the people who are here for labor?
I would say, or there for labor. Sorry, not here. I'm not, I'm not in Japan.
Yeah, yeah.
I would, yeah, I would say they're on, you know, a work visa.
You know, if they marry into, you know, marry a Japanese national or whatnot, they're still
not citizens.
The citizenship is a completely different procedure.
It's actually not super difficult to become a citizen in Japan.
It's actually more difficult to become a permanent resident than it is to become a citizen,
But there are some qualifications such as language and, you know, giving up your home citizenship.
That's one thing Japan does not have as dual citizenship.
There is a push for that now.
There is a, there is a push for that now for Japan to accept dual citizenship.
But as a right now, that would benefit.
Right.
Yeah.
So, but yeah, in order to become a citizen, you have to give up your home country citizenship.
You have to change your name to a Japanese name.
And but the process itself is not super difficult compared to even countries like the US, right?
But I would say the majority of people who come here, especially, you know, labor-wise,
or just come in on work visas. There is a lot of exploitation in that too, especially people
from Southeast Asia or South Asia. They're promised, you know, higher wages to come work in Japan.
And, you know, they're sent to, you know, rice fields or factories or, you know, blue-collar work like that.
And they're pretty much treated as, you know, how would you say?
Not slave labor, but the conditions are pretty bad.
indentures are like indentured servitude.
Yeah.
And they and they and some of the companies will dangle the visa above their head.
Like if you don't do what we say, we'll send you back, right?
So even in that, so they're still bringing in a lot of these people, but, you know, the conditions that they live in are not great either.
So it, and that also creates a sense of desperation in them.
And, you know, they come from cultures that don't necessarily fit with Japanese culture, right?
So you put that mixture in there and it's going to cause some problems.
This is not a huge, it doesn't cover a huge area of the country.
It's kind of centrally located in one spot in northern Tokyo.
But there's a group of Kurdish community.
There's a Kurdish community that has been causing issues such as crime,
sometimes violent crime, but mostly it's like, you know, theft and just general, you know, mischief and chaos.
But a lot of these people came in under refugee status.
And usually I'd need to, you know, kind of confirm the time limit for refugees, but I believe they give them one or two years for refugee status.
And in order to stay, they're supposed to go to immigration and renew that.
But a lot just don't.
They just overstay the visa, but they're just, nothing's really being done about it.
And, yeah, especially in that area, it's just created this sort of, you know, chaotic environment.
And what's really concerning for a lot of people is, yeah, this is just one case, one area.
but then you have organizations like JICA or even the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
who are trying to build relations with countries like India or Nigeria
in designating certain towns in Japan as these countries' hometowns
and wanting to bring in, I believe I read it was over the next five years,
they want to bring in at least 500,000 people from India to a certain town.
And my first question was, did the people of this town agree?
You know, are they just going to have 500,000 Indians show up in five years, right?
I don't know that anybody in Canada agreed for it to become like the second largest Indian population country in the world outside of India.
I could be completely wrong on that, but it definitely seems that way.
I mean, basically Ontario is overrun.
Yeah.
And, I mean, it's their whole towns like the town, I think it's a town of Brampton,
it's just India now.
And how does that happen?
The only way that happens is the people who live there don't have a say in it.
Yeah.
It has to be intentional for sure, you know, and they don't get the consent of the citizens who live there.
No, I do have a friend here from Canada.
He's been here a little bit longer than I have, but he says he can't go back to Canada,
even if he wanted to.
They're just, it's just too, it's just gotten so bad that he, he feels like he lost his home country pretty much.
So, well, speaking of, so Japan, you have people there who are, you have a town,
now that is, you know, has a lot of Kurds in it.
And you have activists there who want to import 500,000 Indians into it.
Has there been any kind of nativist movement to, you know, try to cause, you know, bring attention to this and go, no, this is not what we don't want this at all?
and you know what kind of what kind of dents are they making in public opinion or government opinion
yeah actually the most recent elections really proved that there is a growing anti-immigration you know
sentiment here again they there's there's a political party called san sato whose slogan is
Japan first. So kind of borrowing from the U.S. America first, but they went Japan first.
And they're not necessarily opposed to all immigration, but they pretty much push that they
believe that Japan should focus on the Japanese people, first and foremost, taking care of
their own citizens first, before trying to bring in, you know, all these, you know, people from
other countries.
I would say in the last election,
they had significant gains within the Japanese government.
Usually it's always been just one political party that's been in charge in Japan since the war
ended.
But they're starting to lose influence and lose ground.
And this third party is really gaining a lot of
You know, they gained about 15 seats in the Japanese diet in the last election.
And the people that I talked to, co-workers, friends of mine, Japanese coworkers and friends of mine,
who are, you know, 30s, 20s, 30s, younger generations are very much in support of this party.
Like everyone that I work with who's Japanese that I know voted for this party.
And it's a weird, weird shift because the older generations care more about things like pension and retirement because they're getting old.
But the younger generations are seeing what's happening to Japan and they don't want to lose that.
And so, yeah, they're overwhelmingly voting for more of a Japan-first type of party.
you start seeing more and more protests against immigration.
I believe there was one the other day in Osaka that was quite large.
There's always been, you know, a smaller protest here in Tokyo, but the numbers are growing.
And there's going to be a large demonstration in protest on the 21st of September
that a lot of people are keeping an eye on for that.
So I would say overall there is, you know, a growing sentiment to push back against this.
What does that look like if they were to try to bring in like 500,000 Indians?
Is Japan the kind of culture where you would see, like, could there be unrest?
That's a good question.
I would say normally, just from what I've experienced, I don't think so.
People would be upset, but I don't know if they would be pushed enough to really do anything about it except for maybe voting.
And I could be wrong.
They, you know, Japan has had its history with some, you know, how do you say, pretty radical political groups, even about 50 years ago, but they were mostly like far left, like a Japanese Red Army.
They would do like domestic terror, things like that.
But that was quickly quashed and kind of swept away.
But the Japanese culture overall values, you know, peace and harm.
So I would say that the normal everyday person, I don't think, would become violent at all.
It's just not really their nature here.
But at the same time, I don't know if they've ever faced a situation where there's 500,000 people from a culture that doesn't gel with their culture suddenly coming in.
I do notice an underlying frustration with people, though, just day to day.
Not only living in a big city, everyone's on top of each other, but just the frustration
with going to a shop and someone who doesn't speak your language working there, just minor
frustrations like that kind of build up in people.
and so it'll be interesting to see what the reaction will be over the course of the next few years.
What's the reaction to the Kurdish crime?
Yeah, I would say there's a lot more opposition to that online, especially on X.
You'll see a lot of, you know, Japanese accounts posting about, you know, the Kurdish issue.
but it's such an isolated case that a lot of people, normal everyday people don't really understand
that situation, especially outside of Tokyo.
People who live far away from Tokyo, if they're not, you know, online, they may hear, you know,
a couple news stories about it, but they don't really know how bad the situation is getting there.
from people that I talk to that are getting more fed up with, you know, the immigration issue is it's mostly against other Asian cultures influence, especially the Chinese.
So what's happening with the Chinese is you'll have some rich, you know, Chinese investors come over and they'll buy swathes of land, which is land is,
pretty limited here. They'll buy huge swaths of land and put like, you know, solar panels or
whatever they do. And all of the money generated from that doesn't go back to the Japanese
economy. It's sent back to China, pretty much. And there's a, there's a northern island called
Hokkaido, which has a bit more space, less mountains and, you know, more arable land. And so
they're really going up there and buying a lot of land up in Hokkaido.
They're, you know, tearing down a lot of forests, leveling a lot of hills and mountains,
and just making way for these, you know, ugly industrial-looking solar panels pretty much.
But it's not benefiting the local economy or the local people.
It's just all going back to China.
And so I would say that's really the national issue that people are concerned about.
is mostly from China.
And when they're focusing on that,
they're not,
they're not focusing on the other groups that are starting to come in.
And I think a lot of people are unaware of just how bad it's getting.
If you live in a big city, you'll definitely see it.
Even medium-sized cities, you start to see it.
But people live in the countryside so far,
have not really been exposed to a lot.
of that. They just understand what's happening with China at this point. Yeah, I guess it's really
with the historic animosity with China. It's very easy for them to notice if China is doing
something or if Chinese people are doing something there with the Kurds. If they're committing
crime, it's impossible to ignore. Yeah. They don't have, most people don't have any idea
how the Indians managed to do this. They get in there. They're incredible brown nosers.
For the most part, you're not having any violent crime whatsoever.
So they basically sneak in, skin suit you, and try to act like the, as much as they can, like the native population.
And then once they're in there, that's when you realize their culture is completely destructive.
They have no, they don't care about human life at all, not even their own.
they're just scammers and schemers, and they're completely reckless.
I mean, that's something we're seeing, you're seeing in Canada, like, you know, we had that truck,
the truck driver do that thing here.
Ontario's been putting up with that for years now.
Yeah.
Where you say, you know, I have a friend in Canada, and he's like, if I'm driving down the highway
in Ontario and there's a truck, he says at least once a week, I see a truck flipped over on
the side of the road and it's an Indian driver. So they can, that's, Japan can see the Chinese, you know,
the Chinese, clearly. You can see the Kurds because they're committing crime and, you know,
but these, these people come in and they, they just try to act like you and then, and then it's too
late, but it's by the time you realize, oh, we have a corrosive, you know, bio weapon amongst us,
it's too late in most cases. Yeah. Actually, I didn't mention this earlier, but the area of
Tokyo that I live in is, I don't live in that area, but it's fairly close to where I live.
So I see the influence of it. It's actually designated as Little India in Tokyo. And even the
the local politician there is, is Indian.
So it's, it's rare to see a non-Japanese politician here,
but he's, he's definitely Indian,
and they have their own community there.
And that's, it's just increasing.
And, you know, you go, I just go to, you know,
local supermarket or the gym,
and there's just year by year increase of more and more and more
of people from that area.
And it's almost becoming unrecognizable in some ways, you know?
And, you know, how if you've, you know, ever been to a big city that has a subway system,
you know, how kind of cramped and how many people can be on there.
I grew up.
I grew up in New York.
Okay.
Okay.
So, you know, so, yeah, in the mornings on the commute, you know, usually people keep to themselves
and, you know, just try to get through the commute to get where they need to go.
And then you see a group of about five to six people from India come in,
and it just kind of detonates a small little bomb on that car.
You know, like it's just the smell, the disruptiveness.
It's just, yeah, it's just, that's what I mean by.
you know, small things are starting to pile up, and, you know, people are starting to notice
that as well. Yeah, I mean, I, yeah, you talk about how young people are, yeah, and it just seems
like that's everywhere. It's the younger generations that are noticing how screwed up
everything is and how multiculturalism doesn't work and atheist materialism doesn't work. And
yeah you just hope that they get out in front of this ahead of time but you know if you're telling me
they you know already have like an indian neighborhood and an indian politician i mean that's
going to snowball man yeah i mean i said this on the latest thought crime syndicate was i had heard
this once that india could send two million of their own people to every country in the world
and still have a billion people i mean this this is a
This is an insane problem.
And people here want to import them.
It's an ins, yeah, I mean, I'll listen to the argument about, oh, we need workers from the outside and everything.
I don't believe it, but I'll listen to it.
If you want to talk about bringing in Germans, Swedes, Finns, you know, something like that.
Although, a lot of the, you can't be sure exactly how right-wing they're going to be,
but at least they're not going to be subcontinentals.
And, yeah, I just, you know, I've never been in Japan.
I've talked to Jared Taylor, private conversation about him growing up in Japan,
and, you know, just how incredible it was.
to grow up in such a high trust environment.
And then you come here and it's just like,
you know, after you're,
after you're dealing with that.
But it sounds like the beginnings of,
of some troubles there.
And, you know,
if I could give any advice to anyone in Japan,
the head this off now.
it's it's it sounds like it's already started to metastasize and yeah it it only gets worse from here
and yeah that's and that's what said is japan is a safe country it is a high trust country you can
at least you know before you can leave a bag in somewhere in public and normally you would think um
That's gone for good.
But here, no, people generally respect other people's property.
You go to a shop, you can put your bag or even a laptop or a phone down on the table to kind of claim your spot.
And you can go order, come back, and it'll be there.
You know, I remember leaving a bag somewhere, you know, in Tokyo about 10 years ago.
I forgot about it.
was all the way across the other side of the city,
realized I didn't have my bag,
called the restaurant,
and they're like, yeah, we have it, come by and get it.
And everything was there.
If someone drops a wallet,
people's first instinct is just to pick up the wallet
and turn it right into the local police.
They don't dig through wallets or anything like that.
So in general, it's a very high trust and very safe society,
but it is starting, you know, to change.
change. Just a coworker of mine lives a few neighborhoods down from me had a home break-in a few months ago.
I don't know if they ever caught the person. It was in the middle of the night, 2, 3 a.m.
Luckily, he was home and he was able to scare them off, but that kind of thing doesn't normally happen here.
And you're starting to see more and more at these end.
instances of, you know, petty crime, theft, home break-ins, things like that.
And it's, yeah, especially people in the big cities are starting to notice that.
Yeah, as long as if you can start getting people in the cities to take on this, that's powerful.
Because, I mean, that's where that's where political power, political power resides.
So, you know, you just have to hope that, unlike here, where politicians are so easily bought off by either money or, you know, buying into some kind of ideology thinking they have to buy into an ideology to get votes, that there, it won't have, you know, at least have a fighting chance because this seems like the, the war.
of the 21st century is going to be growing and growing globalism from the top down.
And from the bottom up, I think the way you're going to fight the war is you're going to see more and more localism and, you know, people coming together in small groups to fight against what's growing.
Yeah. And the one part that gives me a bit of hope is that the younger generations are starting to notice and starting to wake up. And they're doing the only thing that they know to do to kind of fight back to it is in the voting booth. So that's why this political party, Sun Seto, has grown pretty much in the last few years, is just, especially in the last election, was people trust.
is starting to come out and they're voting pretty overwhelmingly. So it'll be interesting to see
in the next few elections what the trend is and what the people are, you know, how the voting patterns go.
All right. Well, I don't know if you have anything to promote or plug, considering I kind of brought
you out of retirement for this. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, yeah, you know, I do have.
have a YouTube channel. I do have old episodes of the podcast, but I don't have a substack,
but I've been encouraged to maybe start one. I do have thoughts. So I might start that up.
But yeah, you know, people can find me on Twitter under the handle that I go by. So if you
want to do a follow, do that. But otherwise, yeah, that's it.
All right, man. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thanks for the information.
No, thank you, Pete. I appreciate it. Have a great one.
