The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1273: Demonic Practices of Southeast Asia w/ Karl Dahl and Stormy Waters

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

84 MinutesPG-13Stormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm. Karl Dahl is an author specializing in the Spanish Civil War and historical "fiction."Pete is joined by Karl and Stormy to discuss Southeast Asia's demonic rituals. Practices that Karl has personally observed and Stormy has studied.Faction: With the CrusadersKarl's SubstackKarl's MerchStormy's SubstackStormy's Twitter AccountPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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He's talked about that before. And we'll let him rip. Carl. Thanks, Pete. Thanks, Stormy. I'm glad that you're both here to not only let me talk about my feelings as it relates to this issue, but I think there's a lot of really substantive conversations that can be had or stirred up based on this topic. And some things that Stormy's talked about in my experience.

directly or semi-indirectly in learning about things that I saw, like after the fact, right? So, as Pete pointed out, I did spend some time in Southeast Asia in my youth, and I was learning the language and working with working for an NGO that had primarily, you know, Europeans working for it. But then we had some local fixers and everything. And I, through this experience, I had some really wacky exposure to things that I then came home and learned more about kind of in retrospect as well, you know, both from people who are from the area, specifically Laos, May Kong River. And, you know, also talking to, you know, priests and stuff about these topics because there's some wacky shit. So the first thing that I'll point out is that metaphysically, the foundational building blocks of all around the world are essentially the same when it comes to the physical world and the spiritual world.

I mean, there'll be different ways that things are expressed, but fundamentally, there's nothing in this that isn't explained. through Christianity and Western Conceptions. And there's nothing unique in terms of what you're dealing with in different parts of the world. You're just seeing them through different filters, or you're having, for example, what I believe is more encounters in areas where there is current, frankly, demon worship, as well as the recency of demon worship. So like one of the explanations that we hear about the new world being spupier than European forests, for example, is that Europe has been subdued. You have actual, in both the new world and in Europe, you have religious holidays where the land is reclaimed for Christ and under his power on a regular basis. basis. This is done in cities all around the New World and particularly Catholic, you know, Spanish cities. They do these essentially reconsecrations that protects you. Church bells, we've talked

about pretty extensively. Church bells are a demon repellent. You see this in Asia as well. In Tibet, You'll see those spinning prayer wheels and there's bells and the explanation from the local practitioners of Buddhism and, you know, everywhere things go in Asia, it's a little different because of syncretism. You know, you're dealing with different aspects of different cultures. And so it's kind of hard to know with the origin of a lot of these things, but they do use bells in Asia to repel evil spirits. as well. So. Yeah, the bells thing specifically in Tibetan Buddhism, right? They're actually, oddly enough, called the same thing. Right. So the bells out front of a monastery or a church are called the same thing.

They're both called sanctuary bells. And they do exactly what Carl said. And it's really important to understand that. There's also an interesting thing if you've spoken with less modernity poisoned missionaries who've been around the world, especially in the old days when Christians were, again, just less poisoned by modernity and less materialist in their mindset, you know, despite their religion. You know, right now when missionaries go on these pointless missions,

when, you know, running around the world with their telescopic, you know, empathy and not taking care of people right next door to them, you know, it's so that they can have a trip and it's so that they can pat themselves on the back and say, I'm just like these people that went into, you know, the outer reaches in the old days. You know, there's some who are like doing it for the right reasons, but I think we're very aware that there's many who do not and are not. If you talk to the people that have been around for a while, and I heard this all the time in the 80s and 90s in my church, and I don't hear it anymore, which is bizarre, but people used to constantly talk about dealing with evil spirits. And now they kind of treat it like the materialists where they're like, oh, well, their explanation for these things is evil spirits because they don't really understand it. It's like, no, there are evil spirits out there. So let me get to some real examples here. Before the modern era, probably some point in the middle of the 19th century, in the Western world, a schizophrenic person was known to be essentially possessed, mentally ill and possessed, right?

And there are some very interesting write-ups from psychiatrists who are Christian and can interact with these people from this basis. There's a really good 4chan write-up that the screenshots are floating around out there that point to some really good work on this subject. and it's identical to what I heard as a kid growing up in my church in the 80s and 90s from people who were very devout who fully believed that you're dealing with, you know, you're dealing with, you know, powers and principalities. And their mindset is from that perspective so that they can address from all angles what they're dealing with, with people with schizophrenia. And I had the misfortune of a friend of mine, my best friend in the world, going totally crazy when he turned 21, with no hints,

no information about it. And he basically had this schizophrenic break. You know, they would always describe it as bipolar. And then there's whatever, 30-some classes of sub-bipolar iterations. But it's basically paranoid schizophrenia, where you're hearing voices that are something else, uh, that is something else, someone else communicating with you. It's not from you. And they're telling you to kill yourself, for example. As our friend Clay Martin would call it, it's the demon of suicide, right? Even if we have other names for this entity that can dwell in many others. And before I went to Asia, the whole reason I'm bringing this up is, uh, I had kind of fallen away from the church essentially at this point.

I was 21, 22, thinking I, you know, I knew better. You know, I know in my heart that this is true, but like I don't really like the direction things are going. So I can, you know, go out on my own. And as long as I have this belief and, you know, my family and stuff to go back to. But I was kind of not fully like getting the reinforcement that I needed on a lot of these things. And I went to visit my friend in a mental institution. And I was talking to him or his body and behind his eyes, that wasn't him. There was a smirk and there was a negative energy.

And when I recognized what it was and there would have been a flash of recognition in my face, it laughed at me because it knew that I knew that there was something else in there. ESB transformed how the country powered itself once and now we're doing it again. Working with businesses all across Ireland helping them reduce their energy costs,

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the whole biochemical explanation, his medication would be, you know, straightened out so that he's more with it and has more control over himself. he would tell me, he said, they don't want to hear me talk about these as other entities other than them being thoughts that aren't my thoughts or their thoughts that I know I shouldn't listen to, but they won't let me say what it is. Because he's dealing with modern medicine, right? And that scared the hell out of me, frankly. made me say, okay, this whole, all the stuff that I learned about, you know, as a child,

from my grandparents and the church, like this is a real encounter with these things. So flash forward, it doesn't go well for him. He dies. I bail on America and I take a job that will take me far away. And so I was in Laos because it was this thing that was available. It was a simple, it was within my skill set to do this simple job and just travel around and have no responsibilities for a while. Other than just doing this job and kind of learning and seeing a place that I had read about and heard about since I was a kid because I was obsessed with the Vietnam War. as you would know if you've listened to the seven or eight episodes I did with Thomas on the subject.

So anyhow, it's a very interesting, strange place because there's sheer like limestone karst cliffs everywhere and jungle constantly growing unless you're fighting it back. and the people are extremely religious. Theravada Buddhism is the formal name for the formal religion, but there is an animist thing layered throughout that merges beautifully with Buddhism because Buddhism acknowledges all these spirits that are out there, and all these entities. they're just put into the they use the

the language of Buddhism through polyscript and terminology and naming conventions for all of these things to explain it and before this the area had been Hinduized

and that was to give a kind of formal pomp for the organization of society but these old things are still there. Fortunately, and just kind of naturally, frankly, they can be explained through Buddhist explanations.

And I was out in this village, in this very remote area, and at night I was hearing, I thought I heard drums one night, and I asked someone in the morning, and they were far away, and it would have been around two or three in the morning when this took place. And I asked a host, I said, was someone playing, are there people who play drums late at night?

And they all kind of look at each other. And a guy basically says, I wouldn't worry about it, you know. And then we went to, he thought it was a good idea that my fixer guy to go see, he was talking to some people and said, we're going to go see someone. And so we go to this house and you climb up the stilts and you take your sandals off and leave them outside the door. I always wore chaco sandals for my hyper-tactical sandals. You don't wear boots because the dust just gets everywhere. Boots are good, you know, when you're working with heavy equipment and everything like that.

But otherwise, you're just going to be taking your boots and socks and everything off constantly. you're going to be really dirty. So do what the locals do and wear tech sandals, basically. And so we go to this place and the guy that I'm with says, just sit here and I can do the talking for you. And if you have questions, you can ask me, but there's some areas I'll tell you not to say anything. And so there's some ceremony taken.

places is at night. And this man and his, uh, it's two guys really. One is like an assistant. It becomes very obvious. They're lighting cigarettes and they're not like conventional filtered cigarettes, but they're just hand rolls. And the, the whole place is filled up with tobacco smoke very quickly. And the guy leading this thing starts doing chance. And I'm like, okay, I recognize some of these things from other ceremonies. And what it is is it's a version of what they call a Basi, where they call the family spirits and the guardians that watch over the family and the spirits in the area to come to basically,

there's the Basi version as they give blessings. This one, it was a spirit medium, who wanted to check some things out. And he starts asking me some questions, and so I'm relaying them through my guy whose English is pretty good, but there's elements that he couldn't fully translate, that I would have to talk to people back home,

like Lao, who were settled here, to get some full explanations. And the guy starts saying, When you were a child, you had bad dreams that all involved the same thing. And you thought it was a person, but it wasn't. And I knew immediately what he was talking about. And he said, it is strong, and it's been with your family for some time. Many such cases.

But it will not carry on. It will not carry on. and I was like, what does that mean? It will not carry on. And he said, it's been too long. So I was, I explained this to our mutual friend, Phylos. And he said, five generations. And I said, that's very, that's very interesting that you bring that up, because

that's in line with what, what this fellow was talking about. So let me, let me explain what it was. because this is cropped up elsewhere. When I was a little kid, I had these recurring nightmares until I was in like third or fourth grade. And I wouldn't say anything about it until one day I told my mom, I have this dream and it's like an old witch or something

dressed in black. And it's a misty area. and it's all green with no trees, like rolling like the moors, like from movies that I've seen as a child. I've never been to the UK, but it looks like that. And I see her from far away, and she's cackling and zooms up, and she's like right in my face. And my mother's eyes go wide, and she says nothing. And then she says, you just have to pray. if this happens again, call on the name of Jesus Christ.

And so she gave a recognition that this sounded familiar. I asked her about it later, and she kind of played it off like, I don't remember that conversation. Maybe she did, because I asked her much later. However, this spirit medium proceeds to explain to me precisely what I just described to you all. And he said, it's an old spirit that attached to your family. And it's still attached to you, but like by a thread. And that thread will break.

And so I was like, the next generation. So the interesting thing is I asked my kids, you know, 20 some years later, do you ever have like recurring nightmares? Because you guys weren't really kids that had nightmares. You know, I remember a handful when they were very little. but and my, you know, I explain it and both of my kids just look like I have no idea what you're talking about. So it's very interesting because the spirit medium recognized it. And another person who recognized it is my mother-in-law.

When she first met me and my folks, when my wife and I became a formal thing to the whole family, my mother-in-law, who is a spooky country Baptist, said to my wife, this is very interesting. They're very nice people, and they're genuine, and they're good, but there's an old spirit attached to them. And I think you should ask your husband about it. Well, whatever, fiancé at the time. So we talked about it.

And then I told them about this experience. And she was just like, huh, interesting. And when I say spooky country Baptist, think of like the Foxfire series and the old women telling stories about like when you go into the woods, if you hear a voice, don't answer it and get out of there. You know, that kind of spooky country Baptist. It was a very, very interesting moment that made me just realize the continuity between all these things. And it was, I basically explained right there to my guy.

And they're all just nodding like, yeah, okay, that's totally normal. And it's wild because you have those conversations here and very few people are going to be receptive to a conversation of that type. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Lidl Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favourite Liddle items, all reduced to clear. From home essentials to seasonal must-habs, when the doors open, the deals go fast. Come see for yourself. The Liddle New Bridge Warehouse Sale, 28th to 30th of November.

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to not have these conversations because of basically what we have to deal with. And the medium of technology is actually quite a bit of a force multiplier, which means we should be doubly concerned about it. It's funny. Would you describe these dreams as being awake but unable to move? And would this old woman sit at the edge of your bed? That happened one time.

Um, usually, yeah, usually it was not the case. In your room. It would, yes, it would be. Or it would be, I'd be in this other world and then I would wake up. But what, what happened is I would wake up and I would be, you know, essentially frozen in bed and exhausted. Yeah, exactly. Wait, so, no, so you'd wake up and you'd be frozen in bed.

And you'd quite often, not always, but quite often. Yeah. And I would feel like we're still there. Yeah, awake and unable to move. Yep. And it being in your room. Yep. Many such cases.

But my mother was correct because that's how I got it to stop, is I would pray about it every night. Mm-hmm. And it's whose authority. Exactly. It's all about authority. In the name of Jesus Christ be gone. And I had had other. Truly, I tell of you, I tell you.

I tell you that anything I am going to my father and the father shall glorify the son. And anything you ask of me in my name, it's very funny because you basically have to, people don't think that these, that authority matters. It matters to these things quite a bit. If you don't, yeah, if you don't have authority and if you don't actually believe you can say these things, and if you don't actually believe, it might not work out so well for you. It doesn't. You best start believing.

Truly, truly, if you have faith in me the size of a P, you can look over at this mountain and say, Mountain, go jump in the sea, and the mountain will do it. Paraphrasing. Yeah. Yeah, it's faith. You have to believe that the thing that you are calling upon has the power to do. it and also has the authority to do it.

Right? It's about intention. It doesn't matter what words you say. Because words don't matter. These things, like, it doesn't have ears. It's like when you looked upon your friend, right? And then you realized it. You didn't say any words.

Like, it was not looking at your face. It does not have eyeballs. Correct. You knew, and then it knows. If you don't believe, it doesn't do anything. They're just words. They don't matter. It's the intention behind it that matters.

And the reason that I was able to guess how your dreams happened is because that is a, funny enough, something that I get talked to about rather frequently. I guess I've become like the lightning rod for guys in our thing to tell me about stuff like this that they haven't told anybody about before. And the old woman particularly is one that is a reoccurring thing. This the Jews call it, it's like it's Lilith, right? it's the yeah she's also a real problem for like you know's how she does she doesn't come around when you're old they only she only cares about babies yeah I mean and this is something that the Babylonians were describing 6,000 fucking years ago right I was like these things never went

away right but with the church had a methodology for exerting power of over them and making them relent. And we've lost that. It's been completely drummed out of people's consciousness, even so much that the clergy doesn't even know, basically, that its job is supposed to, is not just to, like they don't, they think that that shepherding the faithful means that, oh, I make sure you're a good person,

and I make sure like you, you, you do this or you don't like leave the church or whatever. Like, no, that's a portion of what it means. But even a lot of the clergy, outside of their relationship with Christ, the rest of their worldview is a materialist one. Yes. And they're actually supposed to be the ones guarding, like, you know, shepherding in the literal sense.

protecting them from wolves and that aspect is kind of lost and is to say it has it had a detrimental effect on our society would be an understatement because our collective enemy like I talked about with Pete and Philo not only believes these things are real but has spent the better part of a thousand years compiling the knowledge of how to, you know, entice, transact with these things to make them do what they want. In exchange, of course, but generally, that's a price that they, you know, aren't paying themselves, but we end up paying for. So basically the church at scale has forgotten that these things exist and that it's that their job is to protect people from them or give them the tools to protect themselves. That trend.

But the other team on that transaction, which we can get into later, yes. Yeah. But real quick about the, about your mom or sorry, your mom and your stepmom. Um, does your stepmom have green eyes? My mother-in-law, no, no. Blue eyes or green eyes? Amber. Amber?

Yeah. Okay, so that's even rarer. Everybody thinks that like blue eyes are like, they're super rare. It's actually greens and ambers that are the rarest. Um, there seems to be a type of, but there's another popular guy in our sphere. who also had the same dream repetitively. And the only person in the family that was kind of aware of what was up

was the grandmother. Mom, not so much. Because that type of instinct usually skips a generation. And I asked him, I was like, Okay, so like what about, you know, cousins? And he's like, well, all of, you know, because that would be two generations, all the ladies are insane.

They, you know, clinically they think that, you know, they're diagnosed with like bipolar or schizophrenia or whatever, but that's actually not what's happening, right? Like their grandmother existed in a time where there was a framework for the gift that they, I shouldn't say gift because it's not. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favorite Liddle items all reduced to clear.

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a framework existed to where not only she could grapple with this in a way that wasn't, you know, going to make her insane, but actually use it to protect the family. Right. So unfortunately, the daughters and, well, sorry, the granddaughters have basically been given the same gift and instead of them using it, like, because women always have a better sense of this thing. men, no matter whether they, you know, have the gift or not. A woman is like half in our world and half out. But the thing that, you know, they inherited is basically being numbed out of their brain. And they are, they have been convinced that they are, you know, mentally defective.

It seems like it was a sense that we, in our previous, times when the world was a lot less advanced. It served a very important purpose, right? Like, evolutionarily to where, like, you know, anyways, go on. I didn't mean to interrupt. No, no. I think that's all, that's all a good, you know, reinforcement of what we're talking about and the fact that a lot of this has been lost, that I wouldn't have been befuddled by these

things 150 years ago, 200 years ago, right? Let me just tell a very quick story. When I was a kid, a kid who grew up in my, I grew up in church with in the late 70s, had to have an exorcism. And I grew up in a non-denominational evangelical church that was very Lutheran informed. Like in terms of the doctrine and everything, it was almost completely Lutheran in terms of the seminary. and everything, where this flows from. Ethnic, you know, Pacific Northwest, you know, ethnics that are blended Anglo,

Germanic, basically, everybody. And this was a very serious thing to where they had to get a Catholic priest who specialized in this to deal with it. Because again, you know, your average pastor is, is able to recognize what's or should be able to recognize what's taking place. It doesn't necessarily know how to deal with it in an extreme case in a way that everyone will get through this without being hurt, right?

And that was the big concern that he was very young when this happened. I want to say three or four years old, maybe five. And moving forward, he's completely stable and did very well. and all these other kids they grew up with them because 10 years later, why would you take that seriously, right? It's like the late 80s,

like, why would you think that that would be a concern that you can't just deal with with like treatment or sending them to, you know, what is it? Thank God for that pastor. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And so when kids would have get into trouble and get into drugs and stuff, like tons of these kids are schizos now um because they were just like oh well we'll send them to this like you know out of bounds program or whatever instead of dealing with it in the way you know in a religious fashion yep so the catholic priest tell me how that went you know i don't know a ton about it but uh it was all i know is it was an ordeal they tried to deal with it um with this because again i was very young I would have been three or four, and I only remembered, I remember hearing about it when I was really young and having like a 20 minute conversation with his father about it when I was in high school.

Because it was right before we were all graduating. And I wanted to ask him because he was a great guy who was an elder, my dad and him were elders in the church. And I just was like, I remember this. Can I ask you some questions about it or is it too uncomfortable? and he very openly talked about it. And yeah, they had to get a Catholic priest that was, I think he came from even from out of state to do it. 100%. This is the really sad thing about it is.

So like the Catholic Church, which is one of the, I mean, it's my confessional heritage, but one of the things that brought me back to the Catholic. Church is because, you know, my journey through mysticism, which, you know, comprised like a bulk of my formative, you know, adult years thinking about, you know, spirituality. I hate that word. Yeah. Was in that framework. So the Catholic Church really was the only one that has.

the language to address what I already knew existed. And it basically allowed me to, you know, have a dialogue with my faith into way that like, I am reading about things that I have experienced. It is describing things as I have experienced them. It, you know, it was basically talking to me. But the Catholic Church, you know, used to have, you know, because the other thing is like the fact that you were able to find an exorcist is a blessing, right?

There used to be hundreds of them because an exorcist is sanctioned directly by the Pope. Right? Like they're like a separate thing. Like they're not, you know, preaching to the congregation. is what they do. This is the necessary service they perform in the world. Spiritual special forces. 100%. And the doctrine that they, like the tools at their disposal are tools accumulated over, you know, 1,500 years. And it's not an easy thing, right? So there used to be more of them.

And now I think there's only like, I don't know, know the exact number. I have a friend that lives in Vatican City that told me it's like less than 20 now for the world. Just think about that in a time where we are like... That's great. Exactly. Like when Satan's actually on the march now, like we have the least amount of exorcist. And the process is not like easy. It's not like you just like wave some holy water around. I urge anyone that's listening to search the exorcism of Roland Doe, D-O-E.

It's the exorcism that the movie The Exorcist is based on. And let's put this way. The movie, for as scary as it was, whatever, is a sanitized version of what actually happened. It's a much more mild version. And this was witnessed by over 100 people because of who the family was, right? It's the upper crust of St. Louis, Missouri Society. So they had access to the best doctors in the state, the best psychiatrist in the state, right? The best of everything.

And boy, did they try all of them. So the amount of medical professionals that witnessed what was happening made it something that's not really disputable. So much so that the cross used in the exorcism is in the St. Louis Museum today. It's a very real thing. Like this isn't a fucking joke or it's not like a matter of faith. Like, oh, I don't believe in that. Like, well, sorry, it believes in you.

Interesting. It took two weeks. Wow. Two weeks, 13, 14 hours a day. It took two exorcists. This kids was, I know it was an ordeal and it took months to get it to where they had the right person come out and it took multiple days. Yep. Wild.

I wish that happened to your, I wish that happened to your friend growing up. I know. Exactly. I know. Yeah, exactly. What was he doing right prior to this? You know, um, what I mean to what I can say is that, um, he, he did psychedelics before he was 18, which is, uh, not, not a good thing. People out there. That's a very, that's very bad. Happy to explain why if anyone wants to reach out to me, like, oh, no, I've had great experience with this. Like, yes, that is, possible. But unless you acknowledge the possibility, unless you're reading the warning label on the back of the fucking box and you understand the risk, then don't put it in your body. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse sale is back.

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Well, you, Stormy mentioned Roland Doe. How deep have you gone into that? Do you know what he was doing? That's exactly where I was going with this, Pete. Oh, no, he had nothing to do with those kinds of devices. It would have been chemical only this friend of mine. I mean, Roland. Roland.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Roland Doe was like, what was he like 13 or 14? Yeah, he was 14 and his aunt Harriet introduced him, who was a spiritualist, introduced him to a Ouija board when he expressed interest in it. Yep, that's all it takes. Just like the movie.

Just like the movie. Yep, that's all it takes. so all of these people doing like oh I'm all these girls you know you know oh I'm just spiritual and then they think that they can kind of like forge their own theology um you know crystals like you don't know what you're fucking with like you think you do but you don't and unfortunately um ignorance to the rules is not innocent Right. Ignorance of the law is not innocence of the law. That reminds me of all the normies being one-shotted by like ayahuasca, DMT, Solvia Divinorum. Oh. All the most pernicious. I met some deities, some spirit elf creatures and they exist outside of space and time.

And these things that exist forever, they really, really care about helping me with my, specific problems they would never lie to me come two years later they realize that they lie to them they always lie they can only do they can't do anything but lie from that lovely anime series freerun demons learned human language so that they could lie and deceive and conquer humanity that's all they do like i can't express this enough which is why they do is lie when people talk about like psychedelic therapy you have to keep in mind uh yeah they could be lying to you also uh some things like i think there's uh there's legitimate cases where if someone is at the end of the rope where they might kill themselves where in the right circumstances a with a guide with the right

things yeah PTSD i think is probably the only use case that i've found it yeah that's about it because it does a it does a factory reset and that's actually what opens you up exactly right so the reason that you saw these things these dreams as a child but you didn't as like a late teen or in early 20s is because there's a flexibility right a neuroplasticity like the the neurological pathways haven't solidified. Like when you're young, right, your brain is still wiring itself. So the antenna that it has is much more open and you narrow the frequencies as you get older because your brain is constantly sorting, right? Things like what you see out of your eyes is actually not the reality that exists in front of you.

You think it is, but that's really just the very limited series of photons that your eye is able to focus on at any given time. People barely know what's happening in their peripheral vision, right? So the picture of the world that people have that they exist in is not the world that they exist in. They forget how they interact with the world. world, right? You are a brain in a jar using sensory organs, right? Limited sensory organs. So if you limit your perception to only what you can see, then you're missing out on a very large portion

of what's actually happening. And a child hasn't done that stack ranking. Right? It hasn't done that like input accounting to where it's just like, oh, the, you know, like you think about like your drive home from work. Anyone that's listening to this that has a commute, you know, a 2030 hour long commute, you get into your car and then you get home. You nearest makes no difference, teleport home. If I were to ask you what happened on your commute, you wouldn't be able to tell me. because your brain has basically seen that route so many times.

There is no new information to log. So it doesn't, right? Cognitive capacity is incredibly calorically intensive. Thinking is the hardest thing that your body has to do. So whenever your brain has a chance to not, it doesn't. It's just like if you stay inside all day, inside your house. You could do nothing at all, but it seems like the day flies by. It didn't fly by.

There's just no new information for your brain to log into memory. It is your memory that gives you your perception of time. Time does not exist in the way you think it does, the way you experience it. The world around you doesn't exist in the way you experience it. Right? Like, I don't know how else to put it. But there is a wavelength of light. I guess I explain it.

You know, Carl, you're a gun autist. All right. I'm imagining you've got, you know, a pair of, you know, either binos or a monocle. Allegedly, yes. Allegedly, yeah. So you're very familiar seeing only in infrared light. Mm-hmm. Right.

You can see things in infrared like that you can't with your visible eye even if there's sunlight, right? Yep. Like I've noticed it in like animal furs are entirely different. Yes. Yeah. Like I tell the story of like I almost stepped on a rabbit because I didn't see a rabbit. I saw a black like solid black outline. And only when I was right about to step on it that I realized that this thing.

thing is rabbit shaped. And I was like, holy shit, that's a rabbit. And I almost stepped on it. But I couldn't see it at all because it's fur reflected in or sorry, absorbed infrared light. Interesting. So how many rabbits exist that reflect the visible light spectrum? If a, I mean, it's only a little bit further on the wavelengths. And if it just reflected a different set.

right you wouldn't be able to see it it could be standing right in front of your face and you would have no idea it was there this is an excellent excellent Sagu for exactly that topic as it relates to spooky Asian black magic oh NVGs ready to hear it yeah oh car quick quick yeah next time you have them on you live in the Pacific Northwest correct find a nice patch of non-triified area and just stare up at the sky for at least 30 minutes. There's all types of little things running around up there, isn't there? It's incredible. Yes. Yes. It's amazing.

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is in ruins because of successions of wars with the Siamese. They would would just go in and like raise towns and cities. If you leave it alone for two years, it's going to get covered in jungle, etc., right? But there's old sites where they have monasteries around them because before Buddhism, there would be human sacrifices in these places. There's a place called Wat Pu down in Champasak. It's incredibly cool. It's incredibly cool.

It's basically the northernmost Khmer outpost from the old Khmer Empire. And there were human sacrifices there. Although the archaeologists will argue this, the royal family who's still around of Champasak in that region has the old stories. and they'd say no they used to uh you know like annually sacrifice two virgins in front of this um like shiva linga um and it's collie right yes yes yes correct correct collie uh but there's there's stuff for shiva around this area so anyway speaking of collie and blood for the blood god yes When my wife and I were first freshly married, we went to New York City to visit a friend of hers. And this was the year after 9-11.

And we went for New Year's, and they shut down the whole city, you know, security-wise. Like all the tunnels were totally filled with armed men. And they were filtering access to any large events. And we saw the Metropolitan Museum of Art and we were like, hey, why don't we go check out the Met? And they had an Asian art exhibit in there, Asian quote-unquote art, right? I mentioned that my wife's mother is a spooky country Baptist. My wife is definitely very perceptive to certain kinds of things as well. It's a good goal.

And very, very, very good, very good. Greater than the sum of the parts. And we were up in this area looking at stuff for like, okay, this is interesting, you know, cool Buddhist statues, yada, yada. And then we go into this corridor where there's smaller statuary and they have all these little segmented rooms. And this is a long time ago. I tried to look it up before this. And I don't think it's part of a permanent collection. It might have been a temporary collection just being displayed.

And before I went through this doorway, the walls were black in this area. My wife says, something is creeping me out in the next room. Can you look? And I look in and I'm like, oh, there's just little statues and stuff. She's like, okay. It felt very weird. And then she steps into the room and she's like, it's coming from over there. And she points towards this section where there's, you know, they're on little pillars and they have a statue and there's light shining down from the ceiling.

And I walked up to this thing that was in the area where she was pointing at and it was a Kali statue. Kali, multi-arms, holding knives. But here's the thing. I knew that it was a Kali statue from like the pose and everything, but I couldn't focus on the face. there was like a blur in like that I could see in front of it and the way I would describe it

is it was the kind of blur that you see in the fields when you're on psychedelics at night like the visual distortion but it was very distorted like I couldn't focus on the face you know of course you can see the form of the statue and I could focus on certain things.

And then I looked at the description of the art piece, and it was from Indonesia, and there had been human sacrifices for hundreds of years in front of the statue. How big was the statue? It was about 18 inches high, maybe, and it was made of silver. It's an amulet.

It's on a statue. It was wild. It was... An amulet can be a statue. It can be anything. It's a tether. Yes, precisely. That's what it is.

So they weren't giving sacrifices to a statue. They were giving sacrifices to the deity because that statue. So this is the thing about displaying like... Egyptian statues everywhere. The Egyptians didn't carve them as statues. Oh, like this looks like the thing that we worship. That's cool. It's like a nice little reminder.

No, no, no, no. Like, that's our Western brains putting spin on it. If you were to ask an Egyptian priest what that is or why he is making it, he's not going to tell you it is a memento. So when I look at it, I remember the deep. deity, they make it to then put the deity in it physically. But since they can't put a deity in it, what they do is they create an amulet. So it's like a tether.

A good way to explain it is like the sim... It's all about the intention, right? So like, I've given it. up on Italian automobiles, but let's just say I have it. And I draw a picture of a Ferrari in my driveway. I draw a picture of a Ferrari and then I go out into my driveway and place it in my driveway. I go back inside. right? If I were to like meditate deeply and you know fall out of my body and float around,

there's going to be a Ferrari in my driveway. Any spirit is going to see a Ferrari in my driveway. Right? Because the intention that a thing is being made with is the only thing that transfers. Right? Every intention is what matters. So that statue, just like that piece of paper that I drew a picture on, is a tether between the Ferrari that exists in my driveway in this other place and the picture of the Ferrari that I put out in my driveway. It's just a picture. It's just a drawing. But there is a connection between a Ferrari that exists on the spiritual plane that is very real, and a picture that I have. And these two things never get disconnected, right? It's like a route that can be traveled back and forth between the thing and the amulet of a thing. So this is why, I believe it was in the 1500s. Fourteen hundreds, I can't remember.

It's very famous. Well, not very famous, but you have to go look it up. and you'll find it. They brought over an obelisk from Egypt, and they put it in one of the Vatican gardens, and a whole bunch of bad stuff started happening. So much so that, I mean, the Pope liked it, because it is pretty, I believe it's still there to this day. But the Pope had to perform an exorcism himself while on this obelisk to get the thing out of it that came from Egypt that wasn't happy, it came from egypt so caused all types of you know raised all types of help do you want a nice example of another tattoo from south east asia the spookiest thing i have in my quiver yeah okay

this is dark black magic um you know if you read about the vietnam war and stuff you'll see tales of especially like the hill tribes getting protective tattoos But everyone does this in some way or another and, you know, various levels of purported power. Well, the interesting thing is that in the monasteries there, the Buddhist monasteries, monks that stay for a long time, quite often it ends up being a form of a sanitarium, you know, just like in the old monasteries in Europe, and everything were. But the monks can explore their interests. And quite often this involves magic.

And one of the greatest temptations is that black magic is very lucrative. And so keeping monks away from that is a big deal. And a friend of mine who was Lao explained something that I saw to me. I had seen this little protective amulet that was shriveled up and it looks almost like a little black shrimp or a fetus or something,

and it looks like it was lacquered, and I asked him about it. And he said, oh, it is lacquered, and it is a fetus. And I was like, what are you talking about?

And he said, this is the darkest black magic. The, for it to really work, it's so evil. I have to like pause before I say it. You have to take the woman you love and you must love her. for it to work. Because again, this is the binding of this evil entity to you. You have to experience

extreme loss and suffering and what killing the goodness and love in yourself. And you must take her and impregnate her, kill her, cut out the fetus and then perform a ritual. And then you wear the fetus as a protective amulet for yourself. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say online or in person.

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Do tell. All right. To kill a baby before it is born. So why do these evil fucking people, why do they care about kids so much? Why is it that every time we, you know, turn over a stone, there's, like all of the people in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal that are all attached in Jeffrey's orbit from Lex Wexner to Igor Kolomoisky, they're not just regular Jews, they're Shabbatniks. Right. Shabbad is a mystical form of Judaism, a magic form of Judaism, right?

The Zohar and the Kabbalah, less of the Talmud. And these people actively practice magic. It's a very real thing to them. Right. So again, like if these people rule the world, if that's what I'm being told, than the people that run the show sure believe that this has a lot of firepower. So the reason they go after children

is because the child is the closest to God, not just in the fact that they are innocent, but like an infant, the infant hasn't developed any opinions, any thoughts. It hasn't imbibed the opinions of others. Right? It's just a little ball of pure awareness. Right. And that's what your soul is. Right. So like the infant hasn't basically built up an ego yet. It has no concept of self. It's just soul embodied. And as it grows older, it creates, you know, Well, but the Trinity and man is mind, body, and spirit.

Everyone, sorry, mind, soul, and spirit, or body, soul, spirit. I think I fucked that one up. The tripartite nature of man is his physical body, his spirit, which can call his consciousness or his conscious mind, and his soul. The soul is different and distinct from the, conscious mind. So the baby doesn't have any of that. It is just body and soul. It will slowly develop a conscious mind, but it doesn't have one yet. And that's about as

pure of a thing as you can get. But if you can get it before it's born, you now have it without original sin. Why does everyone want to call me when I, like my phone's not moved all day, but now all of a sudden, anyways, it's funny how that goes. That was DE's. I was probably calling to yell at me about something. Tell him hi, I talked to you yesterday. Yeah. So yeah, if it's not born yet, it doesn't have original sin yet.

It's the most pure offering. Right? So the deal I, the pact that is being made with whatever demon, follows that little amulet around is probably the it's probably like the bees knees like gold good silver all right blood is better blood is the spiritual currency like we could see that in the Old Testament absolutely God's laying down the law he's like listen if you kill an animal you make sure that you drip drain that animal right the blood in the meat is not for you. The blood is for me, for the repentance of your sin. It's currency to them. Like, it's life. There's something in blood. I don't know what I'm not a biologist.

But there's something going on in there. So that does not, that does not surprise me at all. I have some interesting Asian flavored stories as well. A good friend. friend of mine. Actually, the guy that's my banker and a very good friend, which is probably why I like, you know, I trust him as much as I do. But he spent a lot of time in Asia when nobody else was, right? So he's a lucky guy, right? All of like in the 80s, all of the young, you know, Goldman and J.P. Morgan guys, they're all trying to go to Japan. And he goes to China. Wow. Right.

Which, you know, being the only guy of a major American bank in China probably didn't seem that exciting to people that didn't know anything about China. But like, what is it? There's seven or nine families in China. Or they call them like the nine princelings? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. There's a class of Chinese that have a tremendous, tremendous amount of capital.

right, and on par with any of our, you know, Bill Gates' is or our Elon Musk's is that no one talks about. Like, these people exist outside of the CCP. Right. But, yeah, he was a lucky duck because China would then, you know, in less than five or six years, the wealthy in China became wealthy beyond anyone's, like, wildest dreams. But he spent a lot of time in Indonesia, in Laos, in Vietnam. in Malaysia. And one of the stories that he told me was he was given, like he was basically, I think, doing what you were doing, like, just being a young man wanting to explore as much

of Southeast Asia as possible because, I mean, it is the place that is still wild enough for adventures to actually happen, you know? it's not all it's not as it's not like the west right people not at people there when i live like in the stone age you know when i was there that there were two things that would commonly happen is you would interact with tourists who are like they would complain that there was no tourist infrastructure there and it's like yeah congratulations like you you you can't just like hop on a bus and have everything go smoothly, right? You have to, like, actually learn to interact with these people.

Mm-hmm. And then the other one was you'd go out into remote areas and people would own, like, two items with iron in them. But then they would also have a cell phone. That's funny. So they only have, like, two or three pieces of metal objects? Correct. But a phone.

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visit drinkaware.com. Oh, wow, they're all running on. That makes so much sense because you couldn't run the power infrastructure. Yeah, the power infrastructure, came later where they just went hydroelectric. And there's, because there's so many rivers there, that it's basically the battery,

like their chief export is power to Vietnam and Thailand. Really? And China. Yeah. What's the altitude like there? It's not super high, but it, where it's steep.

And so, So up in like the, um, the, um, the on a mountain range, uh, it, it just plunges, the river just plunge out. And so they put them hard against the mountain range because by the time they get to the May Kong, they're in these like fairly level areas, but it's extremely steep in the mountains. And it just drops out of nowhere where they come from underground out of caves like these crazy rivers and stuff. Oh, that's crazy. I was actually at the, you brought up the Moor earlier.

I visited the Moor about a month or two back. And there's a place called Dartmoor, which has, which is funny enough, which is very funny for me personally. which is where the the Baskerville Hound story originated. Yes, indeed. Yeah. And a black dog has been like something that pops in and out of like my life story for, you know, since I was born. But I find it really funny.

But they have this place called the devil's pool. which is about maybe five or six miles from where the moor starts. The moor is a very interesting place. It's really cool. You know, there's wild ponies that run around. Oh, interesting. I did not know that. Like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.

They just come up and sometimes they're skittish, whatever, but it's really cool. You can go, like, walk the moor and, like, go see some of the ruins that are all throughout there. And then they'll just be like wild ponies running around. and just eating grass like the cows and the sheep it's pretty cool but yeah there's a place called the devil's pool which is one of these things that you're describing like these rivers that literally just plunge out of a cliff

it looks like a cave but all like like the cave is huge but the river that comes pouring out of this thing is is equally as huge right You see so much water coming out. You're like, how is even this massive hole somehow, like, this doesn't seem big enough for the amount of water that's coming out. It's wild.

But yeah, I think I know what you're talking about with, like, the water coming out of caves and then falling down, you know, the mountains. But the reason I bring up Pete's story, his name is also Pete, is because he, we were talking about amulets earlier. So he was given a cool knife by one of the people in like the village that he was staying at. He was like, oh, this is really, really nice. And he tried to, I think he gave the guy. I can't remember what it was.

It wasn't money. It was something that he had in his kit. And about a day later, he got really, really sick. and was sick for like two weeks. And no matter what he did, he went into town, got, you know, medicine, went to town again, when that didn't work,

you know, tried to see a doctor, doctor didn't know what to do, gave him different medicine, and it was just getting progressively worse and worse to the point where he was almost entirely bedridden. And they basically like helper, slash housekeeper person who didn't speak much English was like you need to like you know you need

to come with me I need to we need to go and take you to see this guy you know will you know make you not sick anymore and he go like you know he gets up and manages to make out of the door and the the lady runs back inside and grabs his dagger that he got given and you know, sticks it in his belt strap. And they go walk, you know, basically through the woods. I mean, all of these villages, all of these, you know, dwellings are separated by little tiny walking paths. And they get to this old guy in his house.

And as soon as he, as soon as he walks in, the old guy yanks the dagger out of his belt, throws it on the ground like it's, you know, 500 degrees. you know, and burning, just immediately like, picks it up, barely touching it, throws it on the ground, and then starts sprinkling stuff on it. And Pete's like, oh, like, what the fuck's going on? I thought we were here for me.

This guy seems to be really interested in my knife. And the guy is like saying some words over it. And I'm assuming still sprinkling stuff over it. and then he just picks it up and throws it out the window behind him. And as soon as he does that, the whole fucking hut lifts off the ground. Like a giant, you know, hit it like a linebacker and just tips it up on one side and puts it, comes back down, you know, enough to where Pete and the person who brought him to this place was knocked, you know, to their feet or sorry, to their knees.

And Pete looks up and he can see out the window of, like, right over the old man's shoulder. And there is just this thing. I was like, what do you mean like a thing? And he was trying to describe it. He was like, it was blurry. You know, it was a thing. It was a very big thing. You know, many times,

the size of a man, but I couldn't really tell you what it looked like. It, you know, had like a shape, but not any defined edges. You know, it was like, like made of fog, but very definitively. Just kind of like moving, basically, like the outline or the, the shape of the, the shape of the the thing was itself moving. Was this in Indonesia by chance? Yes. Because they have the Karras or Chris daggers. Yes.

They do ceremonies around them and pray over them and they're binding spells with them. Yes. I am not surprised to hear this at all, to be honest. And then the thing just ran into the jungle. Wow. Yeah. That's really funny because, yes, it was a little tiny dagger. that apparently had some type of critter in there.

And it was making him sick. And people don't take this stuff seriously. People pay hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, to collect these things. But if you look at the way that the... That's very dumb. Very dumb. The way that the Muslims handle these things is you have to have them richly cleansed on a regular basis. And they have bodies on them.

too. So like, it's crazy. You have to feed them. Yeah, exactly. You have to feed them or else the thing, the spirit goes away. It's a deal. Well, that's the origin of the, or one of the origins of the, if I draw this knife, it has to shed blood is the knife. Yes. Yes. You have to feed it. I thought that was just from the 40-year-old virgin. in China too this is very much still a thing right not like the Chris daggers but magic oh yeah I don't know if you have any stories about that and then I can I'll tell one briefly air grid operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest we're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person.

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I've never I've never been to China but I have a lot of a lot of friends have done business there and a couple you know good Chinese friends oh well they're from Hong Kong and they will tell you that that is a very big difference yeah and so not to be confused with you know on Chinese people but yeah China was never really like a unified country each one of the cities basically existed as separate nation states for almost all of its history. So where you're from citywise has a lot more to do with like how you look and how you act than you know being Chinese. But friends from Hong Kong would tell me that like some of the richest guys, right, so these

guys are multi-billion dollar guys that will spend tremendous amounts of money on feng shui and i used to laugh at that i used to think like when they'd be like no no no like these guys take it life or death serious right like these guys will clear their schedules for months to work with you know the varying i hate calling them priests because that like you know they're basically magi just people that do magic professionally And this is a career in China, right? Doing magic professionally is very much a thing. And, you know, they will spend many, many, many years of their life going around and collecting spirits, right?

Bind them and put them in their toolkit, so to speak, so they can call on them and use them to fulfill various tasks that, you know, people pay them to do. and obviously the ones that go for the most money are the ones that have the most tools in their toolkit. So these guys are really dark people. Yeah, because just having these things like know you personally exist is bad. That's a bad idea. Yeah. So like basically we exist to these things like grass. Right. Like, we are part of the background.

Right. So imagine if you're out sitting in your backyard and all of a sudden, a blade of grass shouts at you and goes, hey, faggot. You'd be like, what? This is now the most interesting blade of grass in the world. And I'm going to pay a tremendous amount of attention to it. I'm going to like check in on it every day. I want to examine it. I want to watch it grow. Like, this is very interesting grass now to where I didn't give a fuck about grass prior.

Like, that's what seeing these things are like or dealing with them at all. If you deal with them, you are now a conscious actor to them. You are now very, very interesting. You were part of the background, but now you're not. And it's just a bad place to be. right everyone thinks that demons only care about possession

that's not the case they do affliction just as well somebody can be tormented by something basically fucking up their life without actually being possessed right so anyways these guys will spend

tremendous amounts of money and they will tell you that they derives tremendous amount of wealth from it. They basically see it as investing. Oh, yeah. Like, if I do this and I do the feng shui thing, and I organize, like, not just their house,

like to the most tiniest detail, but where their house is located, right? What objects are allowed in the house? What objects are not allowed in the house? Right? Just a crazy amount of effort down to the minutest detail. It depends on, you know, when the person was born down to the minute. It's really crazy the amount of effort that goes into these types of things.

It'll give you an idea of how seriously they take these things at all levels of society, from the most wealthy down to the most poor. Like they don't view this as like, you know, fantasy or like, you know, you know, gimmick. That's all of Asia. And if you think about it, if you think about it, the level of seriousness, if less elaborate, that's how it was in the West as well, in Christendom. I find it very interesting that at a time we're basically being bombarded, there is a subset of society that spends all of its time running around. trying to convince everyone else that bombs don't exist. I find that very, very interesting. The spreaders of materialism seem to also be the same groups of people

who, as a people group, utilize this type of stuff regularly. It would be very much in their interest if Christians forgot this existed, or forgot that this was actually the world that they lived in, which is kind of my purpose of bringing. bringing it up and constantly talking about it. Because one side is using a weapon system that they have convinced their enemies does not exist. Well, how do you fight something that doesn't exist?

You don't. You just die. So everywhere else in the world takes this shit very, very seriously. Yep. And we used to as a society. I don't know how that gets fixed, though. Because I think the people that would find my, you know, arguments persuasive, I think they would always find it persuasive.

And I think there's just a core group of people that refuse, whether they think Christianity is uncool or whatever. But there's a reason that we conquered the world. And it's not just how great we were. All right. I can't remember. Did you ever, do you guys catch that episode that Orrin did with Andrew Isker? And I can't remember who the other guys were, but they were basically going through the history from other non-Christian sources of what would happen when the early church would set up in a town or relics of a saint were buried near previous pagan.

temples. And this was very much still a time when paganism was very active. All of a sudden, the priests and the oracles of Apollo at the temple weren't able to see shit anymore. Yes. I'm familiar with that story. I can't remember if I got it from them. There's hundreds of documented ones. Yes. And this would happen all across the ancient world, right? All of the, like, you go to like the Mayans, all of their priests just became ineffectual, right? They no longer had the juice anymore when the key stores and the priests showed up, right? I think it's really interesting when there's that bit where Christ is in the desert being

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six an actual branch of the special forces that doesn't just write books um sorry i don't talk about you that i'm just repeating stuff that you know uh soft guys soft guys tell me um but yeah the the lifespan the life expectancy of a jesuit priests that was was doing missionary work was very, very, very, very small. Like, these guys knew that, you know, the fates laid out. Like, they weren't just, like, killed, right? They were usually tortured and mutilated and then killed. And they still went and did what they did.

Like, those were some of the hardest guys. I can't even imagine. Like, you know that your, their experience of their faith was much more visceral than we often get to experience today. Right. Like, they understood their faith is not like, okay, well, God's up in heaven. And if I don't watch porn and I'd be really good and well behaved. then I get to go up there with God when I die. But that's it, right?

Like their interaction with the domain in which God inhabits only happens when they die. But if you were to ask any medieval Christian, they'd be like, no, the fight's all around you, man, all the time. And we seem to have lost that, right? Like it's almost like our faith is like a philosophical thing that we just, you know, grapple with and play with in our heads up until the moment, like we expire. And not a living faith that like we see the hand of God. We see his enemies like in our day-to-day existence. Because that's how they really are.

And that's how those missionaries, those jenaries, those jenaries. Jesuits, that's how they saw the world. And you would have to see the world that way. Do you basically risk horrible, excruciating deaths as the more likely outcome than you coming home? Like, you would have to, like, your faith would have to be one that you live in your day-to-day existence. Like, things happen, oh, well, not because, you know, random series of events. No, it's because God wanted them to happen. Right. Like, when we see things that are, are strange and crazy or unexplainable, we immediately reach to materialist reasons why that thing happened. And that would be the last thing that they would do. The spiritual dimension was the first

thing that they went to to explain things, that they were difficult to explain or phenomenon that we see. Now we have millions of atheids that just come out of the world, woodwork to try and explain away all of the phenomena that still very much exist in our day-to-day life like every time Carl looks up at the night sky with his binoes on he will tell you that there is a whole bunch of shit going on on our plane of existence that we don't have the language for it's uh and and with what's taking place right now with attacks on church and religious people, it's escalating and coming out into the open and the enemies think it's funny. And I spent two hours talking to DE about what was going on in Spain from the religious issue

in the lead up to the civil war and the beginning of the civil war. and it's just people need to get with it. And the people who are religious but are basically materialists, they need to get with it, man. Maybe we just need more, maybe more church bells will help. Yeah, but if you think about it, like, if you're religious, quote unquote,

but you're still like materialists, like your faith is like this thing that exists outside of you and your day-to-day existence, then you're not going to be able, you're not going to possess the impetus needed to fight that fight until it's way, way, way too late. Right?

Like the guy that doesn't believe in the way that we are describing is not going to be the one that goes over the top of a trench for that belief structure. Like, if that guy gets shot, he's going to be, scared. Like he hopes there's a heaven, but he doesn't know there is. Unlike those monks, those Jesuit priests, that wasn't even a question that ever went through their brains. Like,

they weren't, you know, dying, thinking, oh, I hope heaven is real. Like, that was a known quantity. And the other where, the other place that we see this, and this is an unpopular, and this is an unpopular, comparison, but is in jihadis. A jihadi doesn't doubt whether he is going, he's wrong, which is unfortunate. But to him, like, you can't threaten him. You can't buy him off. There's, in fact, there's nothing that you could possibly give this person to make them stop what they're doing because the alternative to them not doing that is unimaginable. And the mandate to which they have trumps everything else. Like there's no honors that you can bestow on them. There's no amount of, you know, cash or gold that you could give them to stop doing what they're

doing. They are, you know, they're wrong, but they're on a mission from God. and they fight like it. They don't give a shit. Like, you can't torture that person. You can't threaten to kill that person. You can't bribe that person. And that is something the regime has a lot of difficulty fighting, which it seems to be a very high importance that it stops that from happening anywhere else.

Right. Like, it seems to, like, out of all the archetypes, it hates the warrior priest the most. Because it has no tools in its toolkit. Because if you, like, kill a priest, okay, that's bad. But if you kill a jihadi, like, how did Wesley Clark describe jihadi math? It's like this different type of math. If you have 100 and you minus 20, you don't get 80, you get 200. Yeah.

Because they set an example, right? Like, it basic, every dead jihaddi is a question to everyone else back in the village. Like, okay, what are you going to do? And it's really like it kind of lays down a spiritual gauntlet for the other men in the village. and that's how you get 200 instead of 80. And we saw that in the Spanish Civil War, right? Like, the, oh, there's so many stories of men putting their life in the lowest of the priority categories in comparison to God.

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I always like to point out that the Carlos Reckettys, the militiamen and the early volunteers, the war couldn't have been one without them. They captured and held the most territory at the beginning so that there were even places for the army to connect with. And they treated themselves as shock troops so that civilian populations in the North would not be bombed. They would put themselves on the line, even if it meant their whole company would get wiped out, taking an embedded position because they didn't want their people to be bombed. Carlos Math. Yeah, carless math, basically.

My reward is in heaven. That's the only way that they win. I just don't see it. The communist controlled too many levers of a state that was still slightly functioning enough to where that offered them an advantage. And there was way, way more of them, right? Like, okay, so let's say Franco's army magically lands. Right?

You basically have the largest nation in both natural resource wealth and population at that time, throwing infinity resources at this. You have the nation of France, which prior to World War II was the largest military on the, you know, the European Peninsula. blah. They're throwing weapons. They're throwing men and they're throwing gear. And you got dumb faggots like, what's his name? That's stupid, Orwell, you know, coming in from all over because the Jewish media basically made this look like the Holy Crusade, you know, that you had to go join. The Nationalist Army, like, sorry, like, that's not enough to beat that. Yeah. His, Franco attributed their victory to God. Yeah.

It's as simple as that. Not like, you know, in a cynical way or not like, oh, I won this victory in God's glory. Like, no. He is the person that did this. Exactly. And our people are your people, and it's ever been thus is his proclamation.

And it's interesting that the other groups, one in particular who, some can argue fought under the cross, some would argue definitely didn't. I definitely wasn't direct, for sure, lost. Yep. Yep. They lost. you know and you see that all across here and one of the first things you're going to get is is that oh well as soon as as soon as you start talking about faith that means it's uh that means it's multicultural and everything and you're talking about um you know multiculturalism is fine you're

just you're just advocating for miscegenation now retards they're useless It's like those people that say like Christianity is universalists, so therefore is multi-culture, multi-ethnic, you know, biomass slop. The scriptures were written in Greek. Christianity has been European from its beginning. It is a European religion. The only reason it exists elsewhere is because Europeans bring it there and then maintain it or else it turns into Santa Ria fucking witchcraft in a generation.

Right? Like Woz and Corey make this point. Christianity can sustain itself in none of these fucking places unless constantly reinforced and washed over by Europeans. The reason Latin Americans get to be Christian is because Europeans, go there and maintain the church. Right? Even in the brief 50 years since they've been bringing in, you know,

talent from the native population, they're redesigned, basically recasting the Virgin Mary as a volcano deity. And you go look this up. Like the same exact thing in Africa. America, same exact thing in Asia. All right, like all of the traditions and all the magical practices that Carl and I just went through at length, these things are embedded into the culture of these people. It's embedded into their soul. It's never coming out. Communism couldn't smush it. Right? Nothing is going to separate these people from this. So unless the church is constantly maintained,

by Europeans. It goes back to that in a generation. Christianity is a European religion. It is the European religion. So like to think it could be a universalist faith is idiotic. Right? It is only like that is a invitation and a privilege that Europeans extend to other people, not because it's theirs. If it was theirs, they would be able to maintain it and they can't it just it's so retarded it's it's and if anybody wants to talk to me about like paganism or spirituality like you don't know what you're talking about like you haven't studied the shit because even from an esoteric and a cult position christianity is the only go ahead yeah one of the guys and uh in my my supporter chat today uh was talking about uh

someone specifically who, you know, advocates that the whole thing about how Christianity is a Jewish subversion thing. And he says, basically everybody making those arguments is using the word concept fallacy. And for those, for people who don't know what the word concept fallacy is, it means that words, what one word means right now, that's what it meant a thousand years ago or 1500 years ago or 200 years ago or 2,000 years ago. or 2,000 years ago. They can only play with words. Yeah, they can only play with words. You can only, you know, and I mean, I don't know if that is deceptive,

purposely deceptive on their part, or they're just not intelligent enough to realize what they're doing. But words have different meanings. You know, I mean, it was personally purposely deceptive by the person they heard that from, I bet. Yeah, probably.

And, you know, it's like, you know, Ivan the terrible. Things like, I mean, what did that mean? Does that mean, oh, my God, he was so, that was a term of endearment. But how do we use it today? So it's like, you know, I mean, it's really exhausting. I think Thomas is, Thomas is right. Most people, most people, even people with followings, even people, you know, who are, you know,

I'm more popular. We'll say things like, I'm more popular than you on the internet. internet, they're not equipped to talk about the thing. Oh, no. They don't have any background in it. They don't even know how to perceive what they're seeing in front of their eyes. No. This is why they can't predict.

If you notice there's very few people in our sphere that can accurately predict, right? You have to know something inside and out before you can apply it as a filter or a rule They only talk about things that have happened in the past. Like, great. That's awesome. Now, all that shit that you just spent forever, you know, lecturing us about, how does that apply going forward? Well, this is, this is something that I've talked about previous is that it's actually

very easy for them to appear as somebody who is predicting things properly. Because if you just assume everything is getting worse, then pretty much, you know, entropy is a real thing. So things do appear to be getting worse all around us. But, you know, they, these are the kind of people who always have an out. It's like, okay, so something, you know, oh, something just improved. Oh, well, I mean, but yeah, someone with a Jewish name was involved in that. So, yeah, that's not an improvement.

That's, we're being deceived. We're purposely being deceived. I don't know, but my life seems to have gotten better because of it. Oh, well, you're just, you're just philosemitic now. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it's survivorship bias. Yeah, it's just people, people play these games because the internet, I've said this a lot, the internet is the greatest gift and the greatest curse we've ever had.

Because if you know how to use the internet, you can understand the world. You can understand the world better than probably 99% of the people who ever lived, But it also opens the door for people who are not very bright, but actually very manipulative and not how to talk well, into corraling people into a way of thinking that keeps them bound. And these are the same people who will talk about gatekeepers, not realize that they. not realizing that they've been gate kept into a silo by the fact that we live in an age where everybody is political, but these people don't have the mental ability. They don't have the natural mental ability to be able to understand how politics works and how it's worked historically and how it's playing out and exactly how things would

improve or how things would get worse while improving at the same time. They can't see those things. So what they do is then they went and the easiest way to spot these people is that they default to absolute purity. Yeah, they've neutralized themselves through that. The whole way I ended up getting in contact with you, Pete, was that after October 7th, I saw things happening. And the channels that I was in,

almost no one could explain them. There would be like one or two and other people, no, like we're defeated by the Jews forever. And it's like, no, you don't understand what's taking place. And so I was reaching out and finding other people. I think one of the first was kingpilled. And then someone was like, hey Carl you should talk to Pekinionis about the Spanish Civil War and I was like I know and I'm like Pekinunas and I and I and I was like oh I'd listened to like three or four podcasts you did in 20 like early 20 24 before we got in contact and maybe even in 2023 because you were talking about the things that I was seeing and talking to people who are talking about the things that I was seeing and these other people it they just they can't

even describe what they're seeing. Like they don't even know how to process it. And it just is a persistent feature. And they've neutralized their relevance, but they're still out there. And they have their four to six thousand followers and they get high engagement on quippy little posts, but they have nothing to say. It's like factions. I mean, Pete, how long have I been saying that there's

more than one team at play. I mean, there's more than one of Jews that are fighting against each other. Yes, exactly. I made the statement on Twitter the other day that, this was a couple weeks ago, that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are owned, they are run by Ronda Santis. They are loyalists of Ronda Santis. And who is Ronda DeSantis loyal to. And someone, then someone stepped up and said, well, who's Trump loyal to?

I'm like a different faction. There are factions within the, there are factions within Israel right now that are both, they're both pushing to destroy Gaza. They're both pushing for Eret to Israel. They're both pushing for this, but they're actually fighting against each other. And people can't, and you try to tell that to people and they're like, no, These are super Uber menches that have taken over the whole world by doing this. I'm like, yeah, they've insinuated themselves into every single important, cultural, financial, yada, yada, everything. Sure.

But they fight against each other. And if you don't realize that, and if you don't realize how important it is to realize that, that if they're fighting against each other, they're actually weakening each other, while they're weakening their world. Most of the world's perception of them is looking at them as monsters right now. If you don't- Just type in Rothschild suicide into your search engine,

you'll find that a lot of these supposed master of the universe at top of the top of the totem pole all die really interesting deaths that one would struggle to see as, suicides right like these people off each other they don't just argue oh yeah and you have these people claiming that oh well he didn't actually die and he's somewhere else and it's like why it's so easy to kill people like why would you leave this ass out out there oh it's because you're making them invulnerable and undefeatable in your mind is what you're doing and yet you claim

to be fighting against them huh i mean when they killed what went when when when when jeffrey epstein was killed there was a faction of judaism that was pissed off at another faction of judaism that killed him they're not all working together exactly and if you don't understand if you don't understand how important that is in our to realize that in our fight going forward i mean as thomas would say this is why thomas says this all the fucking time. You're not in the game because you think everything is one thing. It's not one thing. Yeah, there is no regime. There's a collection of interests. I remember there's a certain guy who was very prominent, still rather prominent. But like, I remember like 2022, like when I

first got on or got involved in the conversation, I was like, no, there is a faction of this. that is not Jewish, that wants to get back in charge, right, that of basically their interests now diverge because we are at a point in time where the Jew plan is to throw America into a two-front war that it cannot win, right? That's the plan. These are also the same people that we're planning on moving their operation. It's in this group, right, or less the Shabbatniks, right? They're less of the militant Zionists

that Pete is talking about, that backed to Santa's. These are more of like the Globo-Homo Jews. They're also the money Jews. So this is where you get a lot of your like mega donors from not outside of the mega group right Israel has made the ultra like hardcore zio shabotnics right like yes they're rich like you know a lot of people on the Epstein you know network are very very wealthy but not in the category of these others right like if you got like one or two billion dollars you know what's

is named Leon Black, like, cool, but like you're not at the top of the totem pole. It's not intergenerational. And the global homo Jews in it, they were planning on moving their operative, like, the host was trying to get, like, they were trying to move hosts to China. Like, that was the plan. And this is why if you see like Larry Fink, Bill Gates, all of like the puppets that they dangle, all of a sudden we're all suck in China, like Soros. Everyone was sucking China's dick as much as humanly possible.

Like every tech see, like everyone was like, oh, no, we need to be more like China. Like China's where we need to be investing and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And then one day after the Evergrand collapse, right, which was like the asset-backed real estate development firm in China that sucked up hundreds of billions of Western dollars. Once that implodes, and Xi Jinping goes, yeah, we're going to prioritize foreign bondholders last, which is a nice way of saying, never, go fuck yourself. All of a sudden, the very next day in the Wall Street Journal,

and the very day after that in the Financial Times, two op-eds from George Soros saying, not only is Xi Jinping both the devil and the devil and the Antichrist, which is funny, coming from an atheist Jew, but he needs to be regime changed immediately. Like, oh, it sounds like something is not going to plan. There seems to be a wrinkle in the plan. And obviously, there's going to be powerful elements inside the U.S. that are not Jewish

that really don't like the plan of, let's destroy America, because they have to live here. Like, if you're a billionaire, being rich in China, is not cool, right? Like being rich in Europe, like being a billionaire in Europe, okay, cool. But you're not really at like on top of the social scene of that class unless you're a billionaire in America. And there's a lot of people that don't like the idea of America turning into a shithole. And for some reason, this is very hard for people to understand. Like there are people whose financial interests aren't financialized, right? So there's a difference between capitalism. There's two types of capitalism. There's financial capitalism and there's industrial

capitalism. Industrial capitalism is inherently nationalistic because it cannot move from place to place. Yes, you can outsource factories and jobs. Financial capital can do that. And then they can import those goods from other places and hurt and eventually put out of business, industrial capital inside the nation. But there are certain things like, let's say, oil, for instance, or defense, that you can't do that with. So there's going to be hundreds of billions of dollars behind people that very much don't want to see this place turn to a shithole.

So to think that these people don't have interests, their money, like, oh, no, we can't, Your campaign money, your campaign funding money is no good because it's not Jewish money. We only take Jewish money. Like, no, I'm sorry, they're whores. They take money, money. And people fail to see this. It's either all the Jews and the Jews are a monolith and that's it. Like, that's the only worldview that these people have.

So they don't understand inter-Nasine fighting between the factions. and they can't see any other faction. So they're basically blind to three quarters of what's actually fucking going on. And another thing that they can't see is that once you realize that there's another faction out there that's not Jewish and is fighting against them, they don't realize that representatives from that faction

are going to have to play along. They're going to have to say nice things about Jews. They even have to have Jews on their show. they may even have to like do a businessman may have to do business with shoes that's the way the fucking world works okay if you want to stay in the game you're going to have to continue playing the game and they're not spaz out like a retard yeah yeah i mean it's like you know people are like oh you know no i don't think anyone has done more to open the eye open you know like elite eyes about Jewish power in the last two years

and Tucker Carlson has. And so Carlson still has some Jewish people at the show every once in a while. And he still says nice things about the Jews, like, oh, you know, I love Israel. And I love Jews. And then for the next hour and a half, he just goes on a rance against them. And people just don't get, I mean,

people are so stuck in their purity spiraling, spurgy bullshit. shit, they don't see how the game is being played. They don't understand how, like, imagine these people trying to do spy shit. Like, when you're doing spy shit, you might have to work with some of the worst fucking people in the world. But no, let me just purity spiral on the internet. But that's why it's like, it's so easy to manipulate these people.

And they're literally a fucking anchor that is weighing. everything down. They don't even talk to their parents because they're not like 100% in lockstep with like their ideology. Oh, I've talked to, I've seen, I've had people tell me they've disowned their parents. Exactly. And I'm like, you realize you realize you disowned your parents because what, they're phylo-Semitic because I mean, that's the way they've been raised. And the Jews just won because now they've deracinated your family. Exactly. Congratulations, retard. Yeah. You're, you're, You're a fucking genius. The only thing that even matters in the world, family.

You know, the first thing, the first thing, when it pops out of you, who's there? Your fucking family, when you pop out of your mom, the first is family. You've deracinated because of politics. You're a, are your friends going to be on your death? You're a fucking idiot. Yeah. Pete, are your friends going to be there in the nursing home coming to visit you? No. Are they going to be there on your death?

bed to comfort you. No, no, they won't. Because they're going to be just as old and just as decrepit as you are. So unless you have family, you will die alone and no one will give a shit. You'll end up in some potter's field. Like just think second and third order consequences. Like think down the road for once. It's maddening. And the other thing is like nobody can conceptualize, a reality in which a Jewish person is not a member of like the Shabbatnik hyper like Orthodox woo like cult which there is a lot of them like Ben Shapiro Mark Levin right like these are those are Shabbatniks right if they wear the they'll dress like regular people but they'll wear the tiny little kippa right that's a

good tell that they're Shabbatnik Jews, right? But there's a lot of Jews that aren't Shabbatniks and that aren't like intergenerational money global homo, right? Like, these are people whose dads may have been like an accountant or a doctor, right? And those people go on to have some success. Those people, like I know two Jews right? now off the top of my head. Pete, I think I've talked to you at least once or twice, like, reference them in our private conversations. But they think the idea of sacrificing anything as a nation for Israel is insane. They think the Israelis and the hardcore Zionists in America are insane. They think Globo-Homo is insane. They think Globo-Homo is insane.

insane. Where do these people go? Right? Like I've got a Jewish Hezvon manager that's a good friend of mine that listens to most of the podcasts in our sphere. He thinks Tucker Carlson's amazing and doing the Lord's work. Yeah, we have a different conception of who that guy is. But to think that all Jews are like some hive mind is idiotic. Everyone is a function of their circumstances. right? If you weren't born in Magic Shabbat Club or don't get recruited by Magic Shabbat Club or any type of radical type of Judaism, you're just like, you know, the Baker kid, right? And you're not some intergenerational wealth, like old European Jew. You're just an American. Like, yeah, you're going to have ethnic solidarity. But all of the political stuff that we're

talking about right now flies over their head. Like, they don't know what's happening. They're not participating in it. They have loyalty to their people group, but doesn't necessarily make them enemy combatants, as in like enemy combatants that know what's going on or what the directionality of the fight is. It's ridiculous. So, oh, my God, Tucka Carlson has a normal Jew on his show. Or, oh, my God, this person has a...

Jewish guy in their organization. Like if you ever talk to serious people, you're going to sound like a fucking retard. Because any serious person is going to know at least five or six of those type of people that aren't politically engaged, that are just normal businessmen. There's a, uh, there's a short hand that really helps that a friend picked up, cobbled from the 1970s, actually. Um, and it's team A versus team B. And it's a good short.

hand for understanding the concept of factions that I hope people would like who are struggling with this would would incorporate into their thinking team a is shorthand for like the radical left blue hair trans the world uh hyper anti white total white death now right crash everything crash america right now team b is we want business as usual we're going to quibble on israel but we need to build America up. There's and we need to get rid of the street violence and the nonsense. And there's Jews of all kinds of a bunch of different factions on each side of these. And there's white Christians all over the place. There's, you know, whatever on all sides of it. And so you have to think about how these people groups coalesce. Are they an immediate enemy?

are they a long-term enemy? Are they not an enemy at all? They're just not necessarily directionally with you, right? It's really important to think really clearly and not this. Everything is A so that when you encounter a case where they're not a, you don't freeze and your brain fry. Like people need to stop with this crap. It makes coalition building impossible, even on our own side.

even with guys that are non-Jewish. Right. Every single, every single thing, every single thing that Carl just mentioned, trunes and blue-haired people. Well, there's a team A and a team B for that issue. Right. Name another issue. There's a team A and a team B for every single issue.

Right. It's a very, it's a matrix, right? Like, we need to think in complexity. or else we're not going to understand anything, right? There is a complexity behind every single issue that has a cascade, Team A, Team B about it. Right? So at best, you're going to have a rough outline of these are the people that are genuinely, generally more on a team.

Okay, but are they, is that like, is that like, is, Is that circle filled with 100% red dots? No, it's not. Because I'm just going to have a dot map, just a bunch of dots everywhere. And I'm going to have to try and draw the Venn diagram of people that are more A than B. Like this is a complex issue. Those are the people that are capable of forming groups. right that's coalition building can happen here but if you go through the whole fucking thing list

of every single issue would be like up this person's a team b on issue x they have to go then you're going to have no one left to work with and there are people that are pretending to be our friend that are very much in favor of that happening right all of the purity is dishonest i i pete you know that of like cognitive warfare we did. And now Benjamin Netanyahu is telling the world that the greatest battlefront that Israel faces is in the mind of Americans. Well, great, if you thought it was going to be bad and confusing before, it's going to be way worse. So like these type of skills and this paradigm, how you evaluate information around you and what you see is really, really, really important and you may accidentally be working against your own interests while thinking that

you're working for your own interests. Pete, I mean, you probably see this probably more than anybody is because of your visibility. People probably come at you with the most ridiculous shit. So you have infinitely more patience than I imagine I would. But is this a thing that you just see as a constant stumbling block, irregardless of whatever issue is being discussed. Well, yeah, but, you know, I've gotten to the point where I'm not trying to change people's minds. If that's where they are, that's where they are.

You know, I'm just going to move on. They're not part of, you know, they're not somebody that I want to work with personally. I mean, I appreciate them listening. I hope they get a lot out of it. And I hope they make the journey one day to, you know, away from a place that is unproductive in the real world. But, I mean, I see a lot of people who contact me and reach out that they may be.

I mean, I assume most of them are just really good people, but they just aren't ready. They basically, they're coming to you with how they see the world working. And if you don't assent to where they're at, you know, there's Southern, wrong with you, you're taking Palantir money, you're taking Peter Thiel money. Um, yeah, I mean, it's just, I don't really, I don't, I just try to be as polite as possible, but, you know, publicly I do, you know, I have advertised it. I want, I want this to be a spark free zone. And yeah, just not, I mean, it's, it's impossible because too many people now have grown up online.

And they have no, they have very few in real life acquaintances do very, do very little in real life. They're definitely not organizing, trying to make their lives better in their people's lives better. So, you know, I'm polite as long as they're polite, but if, you know, they want to get out of line with me, you know, then, you know, I'm pretty good at getting out of line with them. It's so dumb, man. It's so dumb. I guess we'll leave it at this, but like, your views had to change a lot to get you wherever you're at. Like, let's say if you're listening to the show, right?

You got a lot of things wrong in the past, and now you see things much, much differently. To think that you have it 100% right this moment is. as dumb as you thinking you had it 100% right before you ended up on this journey. So if you're looking for people to validate your existing worldview, you haven't actually taken the time to think there's no way that this is 100% accurate my worldview. There are things that I'm still not seeing, just like there were things that you were still not seeing back, you know, five years ago when you were a normie conservative or whatever, or libertarian.

This is a never-ending process. You're never going to have an accurate description of the world. Be humble, be flexible. We could do a whole other episode on this about just basically how the internet, the way I grew up was we talked to each other face to face. And if you wanted to say some shit, you knew that there was a chance that you were going to get consequences for saying you know for saying shit.

Yep. And yeah, I've said it forever. It's like the problem with most people today is they've never taken a punch to the face. Yep. Or they've never punched someone in the face. They're both wonderful experiences. Yeah. It's like it's also like getting in trouble.

Like you have a hostile. regime, chances are it's going to fuck with you. Like, there is a good chance that you're going to get in trouble. And just like getting punched in the face, if, like, you're not mentally prepared for that eventuality, you're going to get laid out. Like, these people basically have existed in a world where there's no consequences for any action that they do. They don't get punched in the face. They don't get hemmed up. They don't, they haven't really experienced anything, but they're so sure that they have everything correct.

Like the life experiences column is blank. The Anon on the internet can do some amazing things. But they think that's all they are. You know, it's like... Even worse, it's a bit. Yeah. You know, it's like, I mean... you're not going to win this war on the internet.

You're actually going to have to get out and meet people and organize. And then what they will say is and what, you know, a lot of scumbags and our enemies will say is, well, as soon as you do that, the feds infiltrate and, you know, and now everything's just a fed up. Okay. Just run this chill. Yeah, run with that. Run with that.

And then watch, watch how nothing. improves for you. Nothing. Stop being a scarity cat. Yeah, this is like, oh, I want to change the political regime, but I don't want to get in trouble doing it. I demand total Aryan victory without me lifting a finger. Yes, exactly.

Donald Trump's going to win that for them. I mean, I had somebody like unsubscribe from one of my platforms and said the reason they unsubscribed was because I was too blackpilling. Okay. Okay. Oh, God. Fuck off your ass. Go out and do something for yourself.

And you are waiting for Donald Trump to save you. You fucking idiot. They want infotainment, Pete. Donald Trump only helps those who help themselves. That's it. That's it right there. Carl, Carl, do your plugs. Thanks, man.

Great talking to both of you. had a great time. Thank you very much. Author of two books, Faction and Faction wither Crusaders, we use that word faction a lot. There's a reason I used it in the title of my book. You need to think about factions, not monoliths, get with the fucking program. You can see more of my stuff on my substack.

That's where I put all my podcast appearances and short articles, and I got another short story coming up on there from the world of faction. Carl Dahl.substack.com. Thank you, gentlemen. I'm happy to do it. Sturman, do you have a substack now? I do have a substack. I've published an audio essay on it.

And I think I should probably, judging by the feedback, I should probably do a lot more of them. So I'm going to start dropping audio essays. You should. What's the name of the substack? It's just stormy waters. Okay, cool. I'll let me check.

I'm kind of retarded. Yeah, it is. Here you go. I'll drop in the chat. Yeah, it's just stormy waters. All right. All right, gentlemen, thank you. Take care.

Bye. Thank you.