The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1278: Order Out of Chaos w/ Bird from Timeline Earth

Episode Date: October 12, 2025

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Okay, go. So we're in my dad's old neighborhood in Glendale, Queens. And we're driving and we take a left. And as we take a left, you know, Glendale, if you ever been to Glendale, Queens, or a lot of parts of Queens. There's these like three, four-story buildings, like residential on the top. The bottom floor is like shops and stores.

And we turn on to this avenue, and there's just this huge, like, bowling green that extends out in quite a way. And because the elevated train is there, I can't see what is at the center of this building. And so we're driving closer to it, and it starts to come into form. It's this tower, massive,

towering building. And I go, why does that look so familiar? What is that? And my dad goes, that's Franklin K. Lane. And I go, wait a second. Franklin K. Lane, what did I read about Franklin K. Lane? And, of course, it's the famous, what's his name, Saltsman, Harold Saltman, Race Warren High School.

And I go, there's this book of a, about Franklin K Lane and it's detail Salzman details just like race war that was going on between like the six what 67 and 70 and my dad goes and i forgot this my dad goes yeah i i went to that school i went well i was at that school in 74 so it was right after like the peak of it and i was like so uh you know what's your story and he goes well i didn't it wasn't too bad but one time i did get stabbed in the back by a sharpened umbrella i was like by by who he was like who do you think he was telling me and he was telling me about the segregated lunchroom um about it was uh you know there were there were there were three sets of of areas that were in

the lunchroom and it was the white kids had one set of tables the black kids had one set of tables and the Hispanics had one set of tables. And so he's detailing this to me, and I'm like, you should, you know, you should really get on a podcast and tell this story. You can, you know, people want to hear this stuff. You know, it's one of the most insane sagas in the history of New York City is that, that's cool. So I just figured I'd tell you that because you're New York born.

And I know you were well aware of what was going on at the time. But I just find it really funny. It's like, it's this huge. imposing building in the middle of this beautiful green. And he was telling me the elevated train where you got in, there's this elevated train and you have to walk past Maimonides Cemetery, by the way. And it's this huge entrance to Maimonides Cemetery. And you have to walk past it. And he was telling me you couldn't walk on the other side of the block. You had to walk on the Maimonides Cemetery side of the block. Because on the other side of the block was where the black kids would walk because they'd

be coming from, you know, the more inner part of Queens. And so you literally down to the sidewalks, you had to walk on different sides. And of course, Whitey gets, why he's got to walk past my monadies to get to school safely. And I just thought, you know, I just thought that was just a good anecdote for something that's going on. Yeah, that's, that's crazy. Does your dad have the typical New York accent? he has the old new york accent which you probably remember not the brooklyn accent with all the rounded things but my dad will say stuff like chimney uh and he like this is the old queen's accent that like irish uh accent that everybody has and i was thinking about the tragedy of that poor accent has just disappeared you don't see anybody with that accent really anymore you just see a lot

of mom donnie's and quamos that's the only accent that's the only accent that you hear anymore is mom donnie and Cuomo style accents really a tragedy the um I think let me check this I thought that there was somebody else who went to Franklin kale yeah yeah I remember okay I remember this now yeah um Gotti Gotti went to Franklin Keline oh that's so funny my dad you know what that's really weird John Gotti the father I obviously you're talking about during the time. He was tell my dad was telling me because the whole area is very interesting. If not that anybody on your show will ever go to Glendale, Queens,

it's very difficult to get to impenetrable almost. But it's a huge Jewish cemetery that separates the three parts of the whole neighborhood. You can still see it to this day. There's the black part. There's the Hispanic part, which is ever growing. And there's the old white part, which is now not even the same. whites it's like Albanians check check people or whatever over there now and so it's just separated by this huge cemetery and he was telling me about a time when he's there were

Italian kids that would go to Franklin K lane and they would be escorted to the school by these you know big brusque like Italian guys in track suits Like it was the only white group that had a protection thing going on, where they would escort their kids to the school, you know, with like tire irons and revolvers and during, you know, in the 60s. And no other white ethnic group was doing that. My dad came from the German-American side of town. And there was no protection network for those kids, which I just think is so unusual.

I don't know if that's interesting to you or not, but I just think it's so unusual. Only the Italians. Only the Italians. Well, they always had the best social clubs and social networks and community organizing and like mutual aid societies, things like that. They really excelled in that. So that makes sense to me. I don't know if you remember in Race War in high school, but there was a part in there where

right down the street from the high school, just a riot breaks out. And the police are sort of just overwhelmed. And like they talk about all these white World War II veterans come out with rifles and stop the riot. Yes. Yeah, it was. It was a different time. in Queens.

I really wish I would have had a chance. I wish I would have known about this book a lot earlier because Saltzman died in 2020. I really would like to interview him about that because, I mean, of course, there's so many things I wouldn't be able to say to him, but there's so many amazing things in that book, I mean, where you just get the detail of the violence.

I mean, from chapter one right away, you get the burning. and then you, the rape and the just, I mean, this absolute insanity. But, you know, there's this whole, like the whole second half of that book is basically about how, you know, the UFT, the teachers union is just taken over by a Jewish, you know, cabal. And I'm sure he didn't mean to tell the story that way. But when you read it, you're like, holy Christ. rap. I don't know. He just detailed it. I mean, like, he's talking about meetings and how and how they're doing this and well, they were a cartel. I mean, in Queens. In the same way where

you would talk about the ever, there's this myth. Oh, don't mention the mafia. Everybody knew the mafia was a power faction. The mafia didn't care if you talked about them. No, they didn't as long as you weren't snitching on them. And there was a Jewish educational cartel too. I mean, there was a protection racket for the Italian kids. And there was a Jewish teachers' union cartel in New York, too. And everybody knew that and talked about that. It's only really, now

it seems like the veil's been laid over with that idea. And I don't know why that is. It's something they used to take pride in. It's something that the control over the teachers union used to be something that progressive Jews took a lot of pride in. Because it meant

that they could effectuate their view of education over the system, which was a good thing. And it only seems like now talking about that is sort of verboten, not to use to ethnically charge a phrase, but, you know, it seems only now it's something that you can't talk about. But Queens in the 70s was highly tribalized, and everybody knew it. And it was expected and it was ordinary. And for the people, people forget the kind of first half of that history, which comes really from the point of the great migration up until the crime policies that occur in this, in the early to mid-60s when there's a turnover and the progressives really take power. But from the point of the Great Migration, in Queens at least, to about that time, the ethnic diversity and the ethnic tribalism is kind of what kept the city working. Everybody knew there, it was like a, I would liken it to maybe an idealized view of a medieval town.

people neglect to talk about because it wasn't explicitly written the caste systems of the medieval towns of Europe. This group has its job and its thing. And this group has this job and this thing. And that's how Queens and other sort of naturally organized cities. They formed this way up until the intrusion of the federal and state governments into the way people organize. I mean, by organized the way they live, the way they organize their cultures. And Queens really worked before the introduction of those intrusive policies to make things change. And it obviously just makes you, I mean, this is like remedial for your listeners and you, but it does really make you think the intrusion is obviously what has caused the problem.

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the first episode that we did together where we talked about Robert Moses. Yeah, I remember. I was just thinking about that a couple minutes ago when you were talking about. So important. I was thinking, well, what's funny is when you get the great migrable, you've already had the work of Robert Moses in place for about 40 years. It was almost like they were anticipating. It was almost like there was an anticipation.

And what's interesting about Robert Moses is that he wasn't this great grand conspiratorial or segregatory mind. He just knew how cities had to work in an empire. He knew that he didn't plan this neighborhood or that neighborhood will be the black neighborhood. or this neighborhood or that neighborhood will be the Slavic neighborhood. He knew that you had to design towns in an essentially self-segregatory manner because I just outlined to you

what buttresses Franklin K. Lane, you know, the public school, Maimonides Cemetery. Now, this wasn't designed by Robert Moses, but you understand the pinnacle of city architecture only represents the trends of city. architecture at that time which were the designing of the self-segregatory networks of towns and where i grew up uh in what i would call central queens areas like the town of glendale

uh areas i don't even know if you've been to any of these places but the town of astoria which is actually more outer queens but still yeah still it's a story many times still designed in the same way where the highways, unlike in a place where I live now, like in Florida, in Miami, the highways are designed to get you from one place to another. In New York, the highways are as much designed to do that as they are to create these pockets of neighborhoods. And I mean, it's not easy to tell, but anybody is free to go and look at Google Earth and look at in New York where the the highways sit, where the public parks sit, where the graveyards are. All of it was piecemeal and naturally designed in order to segregate neighborhoods. Now, they didn't know

was this neighborhood going to become Polish by 1980? Was this neighborhood by 1990 going to be removed of all its Italians in favor of Venezuelans, which is the case in some of the far outer parts of Queens like near the water um like uh well any of the areas that butchers up against the water not quite rock away but Howard beach and those areas where the Italians used to be strong now it's last I heard the building that I grew up in um in the Bronx is mostly Filipinos and when I was growing up it was mostly um leftover Irish uh Puerto Rico yeah and Dominican and they're all they've moved mostly back to Long Island or they've moved up. But you can see the way that these structures are all built is they're meant to create

these self-segregating towns. Because the idea was we have to operate in imperial city. This stuff was designed before the civil rights regime was put into place. The post-civil rights regime. 60 years before that. Yeah. Yes. They had no idea that that was coming.

And now you get in cities that are built up afterwards, you get just highly economically functional highways. They take you from one neighborhood to the district where you spend your money and make your money. They don't actually function to segregate towns or neighborhoods. This is certainly not the case in where I live in outer Miami, the newer parts of Miami, the parts that are more freshly built after the considerations of the civil. rights regime are made. But in New York, you can't just pick that stuff up and move it. So you can really see it. And so, you know, the book gives you good context. But one thing the book didn't quite do, and I'm still talking about race war in high school. And it's because the goal wasn't to do this, but it would be excellent for somebody with this kind of knowledge to make a book

that precludes race war in high school. And it could, it could refer to the design of the areas around Franklin K High School and what racial and ethnic groups they housed and how they were designed to keep those groups in and not walking towards one another. Because, again, to get to where my father lived, you had to do one of two things. You had to take the elevated train, which went in a cut through over the Jewish cemetery, to get to that area. And nobody gets on a train not knowing where they're going. essentially nobody from the other side of the neighborhood would have ever gotten off the train in that side of the neighborhood because you would just look at the sign and it would say uh you know glendale queens and that's what the stop line says you go i don't know where this is

so i'm not getting off and the other way was you could take your vehicle through a this a different cut through the jewish cemetery another thing you just don't ever do if you live in a big city you don't ever in a big city go somewhere you don't know where you're going especially not you know in 1950 you don't go and do that so these areas they still look this way but they are not this way anymore i mean the area where my dad grew up now has cycled through three different ethnic hegemony's you know it's it's it's totally different than what it was as a german neighborhood where my dad was growing up, it had cycled through Eastern European to, like Asian, Indian, to Venezuelan. And that's how it cycled through.

But that's just not how they were originally designed. And so it would be really interesting for somebody to create a book that talks about the circumstances that led to Franklin K. Lane being a pressure cooker for race war. Because it wasn't just like city policy that made it that way. city policy as a result of the way the towns were organized. I mean, you still see this to this day, Pete, these, you know, if you go to, if these kids go to public school, so they're assigned a public school that they go to. And Franklin K. Lane sits at the nexus of these three warring tribes, these neighborhoods of three different colors of people. And that's why Franklin K. Lane is

just one of the powder kegs, because the city's design unintentional. intentionally contributed to that. The way they've designed public schools now is they make sure that only the black kids go to that school. So it's in the center of the black neighborhood instead of on the border of three neighborhoods, which is exactly what you would get when you would expect it to just be three white neighborhoods

that would be all going to one public school. Of course, you would just put it like at the triangle point of the three. Whereas now they put them up and they put them in the heart of the neighborhood because they just, they cannot afford more race wars in high school to happen. It was the most damaging thing to the civil rights regime was immediately after the great society has passed. There's huge race wars that are occurring everywhere in New York City and in other places, too.

But that's why they changed it all. And you just, you just take a drive through areas where my dad grew up in Queens and it, it physically it lit it becomes alive to you you know you can still because the you know in that neighborhood now where the blacks used to live it's now Indians it's an Indian neighborhood but you can still see them manifest in those little cells right you can still you can see you go across the cemetery there's no Indians left now it's it's all like eastern Europeans or Venezuelans but it's one group in the in the in the spot because the the architecture still functions that way. It's just, it's very interesting how the plans of one generation outlive that

generation's ability to govern, you know, what the plan set up was meant to do. So that's the consequence of what New York City is kind of still like now. And it's no wonder the areas where my dad grew up, the only thing that hasn't changed about them is that they still vote Republican. No, I mean, they've gone through three or four ethnic dumpouts, but the area is still vote Republican. And that's because the way that they live, isolated from others, pushes them towards a more perceived to be conservative set of politics. It's just very unusual how architecture really dominates the way that people think, even when they don't realize it, even when it seems like it has nothing to do with it. which, you know, has been my whole life for the past three months, is thinking about masons and architecture and people controlling our minds.

So that's kind of what I've been up to lately. It's thinking about that as I've returned from my ancestral homeland to get back to podcasting. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design. They move you. Even before you drive.

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for some reason we were talking about segregation and everything and we talked about how the fact that our town is like 20 to 30 percent black yet unless you go into certain places or you even know where to get you don't know that they're there that it's still down here because history. Yeah, I asked me. I said, well, where are they? Yeah, where are they? Yeah, I see, I see some at Pagley-Wigley, really nice people. Always say hi, even the people I don't know. I said, where are they? He's like, well, you know that one road and you make a left. He goes, if you go down that, if you go down that road and just keep going, they're all on the left side of that road. Yeah. And you never think. You never think to turn on that side of the road,

because you're like, I don't know what's over there. And that, It's designed that way. Yeah. That's the natural architecture. I've been down that road many times. And I didn't even notice it because, I mean, it's not like they're hanging out on their porch or front lawn or anything like that. It just doesn't, it's pretty, it's very historic where it's like, we're static here. But the one thing you get in a city, like New York City is you're going to get that change.

you're going to get that constant cycle of people cycling and group cycling in and group cycling out. Oh, yeah. The dumpover happens in New York City in a way that it does not happen in small towns in the south. Absolutely. But it is funny. They're built the same way to me. Well, the first, you know, I guess the real first groups that came were, you know, you talk about the Irish and then the Italians. and they set up their own, their own little cadres, their own little neighborhoods. Are you obviously little Italy, people know little Italy and, and not one Italian left, by the way, in little Italy. Yeah, in little Italy, yeah.

But I mean, they're still, there's still a, now it's little itary. They call it litter itary. What is, what is that? Chinese. It's all Chinese. It's all just Chinese and Koreans. Well, I mean, yeah, you just cross Mott Street and you're in Chinatown. or you cross a canal and you're in Chinatown.

But the, but still a lot of Italians remained in the city. They just moved elsewhere. Like the Irish that I grew up with around, and there was still a lot of Irish in the section of the Bronx when I was growing up. They all moved up to like the Woodlawn area. Woodlawn in the Bronx up by Van Cortland Park.

Everything, yeah. So they all moved up there, but they didn't leave. So it seems like of all the groups that came in, the Irish and the Italians, they're a pretty good job of just staying and setting up shop. And there's still Italian neighborhoods in the Bronx people don't even talk about. Getting old, though. There's Italian neighborhoods in Brooklyn, too. And in Queens, the area that I grew up in is still a solidly Italian neighborhood. But, you know, again, this is very remedial.

but it's RICO ruined all that. I mean, RICO and related policies is what ruined the ability for whites to have ethnic neighborhoods. And I'll just say, whites choose to have ethnic neighborhoods. Blacks, in most cases, certainly in New York,

are not choosing to have ethnic neighborhoods. Their ethnic neighborhoods are by consequence. And similarly, the new, groups that are being shoveled into the city of the Venezuelans. In some cases, the El Salvadorians. And you know we love having El Salvadorians in this country because it's the ones that Bucle didn't want, right?

So, of course, they're going to be great upstanding El Salvadorians. These are groups that are filling in the kind of, they call it white flight, the kind of white flight neighborhoods. The whites who are getting out and finding the new neighborhoods farther out in Long Island and farther upstate to move into. They're just sort of filling those places. So they are, RICO ruined the ability for there to be what is necessary in situations like that, which is ethnic protection rackets. It's not necessarily something that's necessary in a southern town, even though it still exists.

Somebody who's not from that town that you live in comes in and does something terrible. it takes four guys to go to one another's houses and go get your cousins to come here hey get that family and we're going to go and find this motherfucker that still happens in the south that does not happen in the technocratic northern major empire city anymore i mean it does happen if you are an illegal and you're untraceable there are there are absolutely venezuelan gangs ms 13 is in new york and they mostly do exactly what the italian mafia did the CIA and FBI penetrated it and made it an international arm of crime. It was basically just an ethnic protection racket in Queens.

And it kept that border solid for where those neighborhoods were. Because not only would like good, well-meaning people of other ethnic groups come into those neighborhoods, the criminals certainly wouldn't. And you certainly wouldn't want to be one of the first families from a different group to move. And I'm not talking about black and white. If you were Polish and you tried to move. and you tried to move into an Italian neighborhood. And I know this is a fact because I was fighting the kind of ethnic battles in the local park that were the kind of secondhand fights that, you know, in quotes, our fathers were fighting.

Right. There was when the Polacks came in to the Italian neighborhood, the German neighborhood, the Irish neighborhood, the kind of neighborhood that I grew up in, it was a big problem. I mean, it was, it was not, oh, they're just whites. No, no, no, they weren't whites. They didn't speak English. They spoke this weird, annoying language. And I'm telling you this from the perspective of what I grew up hearing. I remember growing up, and I grew up in a German neighborhood, although most of my friends

were Italian, but I was going to their neighborhood saying out with them. I grew up in a German neighborhood. And when Pope Francis became. the pope. I remember my neighbor going, oh, they elected the Indian, you know, meaning like Native American. She goes, oh, they elected an Indian to be the Pope. And I'm thinking and I'm going, hold on, Argentines are Germans like you. But they didn't see it that way. Even though they were Catholic, They did not see it that way. It was New York, for most of its history, was particularist politically.

It was particularist. Its only concern, these ethnic neighborhoods only concern was how well is our group doing in our neighborhood? And for some reason, doing that, it became the greatest city in the world, the most powerful city in the world, the most stable city in the world. the most stable city in the world. I mean, after the riots during the Civil War, there was stability until the civil rights era. There was marked stability and prosperity. Again, it must teach us something, I think.

It has to teach us something about the way the big city has to be organized in order to prosper and about how that is changing. And the thing I guess, Pete, that I wonder is, well, I don't really wonder, but it's kind of a rhetorical thing. to get your take on it. New York City was great when it was a,

a tribally organized set of cells that consisted of largely European heritage groups, including immigrants, small cells of black heritage Americans. These were not Africans. You know, they were coming from the South. And the small, not very influential Hispanic community that was one or two of the cells. And that was what New York was made up with.

Now, will New York prosper when that town that I grew up in, which was solidly German, becomes solidly Venezuelan? That is to say, is it the mixing that's the problem? is it the is it the kind of regime of multiculturalism that is the problem

or is it the full replacement of still mono ethnic groups because we love to talk about not we you and I but there's a huge conversation that goes on about opposing multiculturalism

as creating ethnic blocks I don't necessarily think you can do which I think this is the mind of you know, not the Normie conservatives, but let's say the daily wire, the most extreme of the daily wire guys, they go, well, you know, the Venezuelan neighborhood is fine. You go there and you go to the Venezuelan neighborhood and that's where you get great Venezuelan food. And as long as they kind of keep to themselves and, you know, we whites, we can kind of keep to ourselves in this part of the neighborhood. Is that really going to work? Or was it because

of the composition of people at the time, not the architecture, and how the architecture isolates new groups of people. I happen to think you look back and you go between the 1910s and the 1960s, late 50s in New York, and you go, yeah, the groups were ethnically segregated, but it's a matter of the total population of what worked. And so it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not, really the architecture of separation that I think seems to matter. It's obviously the composition. Employers, did you know, you can now reward you and your staff with up to 1500 Euro and gift cards annually completely tax-free. And even better, you can spread it over five different occasions. Now's the perfect time to try Options Card. Options Card is Ireland's

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I mean, it really includes Charlie Kirk, who I think was some of his ideas on Israel and the relationship with the Jewish cartel in this country to the waspy, you know, the waspy conservative movement. I think he was realizing like that was a one-sided game. But I, you know, you got this new guy. Have you seen this new guy, Brylin Holleyhands? Have you seen this? I don't even know if Guy is the right word. Well, the way I describe him is that he was created in a test tube in Unit 8200 in Tel Aviv to be a sex slave for all of the degenerate sodomites in the city.

And he just broke free and came to the United States. Well, my theory is that he's Chinese. I'm sure you've seen my theory about it. If you'd look at a picture of him next to a white person, there's no way that he's not Chinese. I'm just saying, the guy is absolutely Chinese. But you see, Brylyn Holliand and the people who back him, Ben Shapiro, and his message to the crowd recently was, sure, we got to get more legal immigration. He's going, we need more good immigrants to come to this country.

And listen, whatever you think about immigrant, I don't hate immigrants at all. I grew up in New York City. I'm as rootless and cosmopolitan as they get. I really am. But we can't pretend here. I mean, we cannot pretend here. Samuel Huntington, one of Samuel Huntington's final works. I think it was actually his last book,

and it was the most prophetic of them. It was called Who Are We? For a while, I wanted to do a series on it. And, I mean, the long story short of the thesis is, you know, the American idea. And look, maybe you're in a libertarian individual, realist when it comes to the way you view the function of the government. It's really just individuals in there who are pushing their own agendas and that's how politics manifests. I'm

partial to that issue. It's fine. But regardless, so what I mean to say is maybe it's not all American idealism that matters, right? America is, um, America is a white Protestant nation founded on the principles of European common of of of of English common law and European civil law right so that's a notion that I would say even more hardline right-wingers believe and that's the notion that they carry and Samuel Huntington's last book who are we one of the things that it concerns itself with is so you have to go along with the ideological view of America I don't necessarily go along with that view of America but I know many people on the right do so you'll

follow along just fine with it. Samuel Huntington is basically saying America's systems, the bureaucracy, how it's built, something deeper than just the notions that we see when we walk into the courtroom, the actual structure of it, what is going to happen when you enter the simulacrum phase of American government? where the people participating in it don't even resemble in theory the people who it was set up to cater to. So it's part of the conversation that Alexander Dugan is always having, you know, this, what systems of government are right for what people in the world? And obviously, you know, it's ridiculous to say, we're just going to go over there and make those Afghans Democrats. And we all knew that was retarded, right?

excuse my French we all knew that that was retarded but in America it's not just nation building abroad right when you insert people who are simply the system is simply not built to cater to what happens well probably the same thing that happened in Afghanistan when they tried to introduce democracy they spit on it and then they kept doing the little dance with the the men who are dressed as women they kept doing their own thing Afghans that's They kept doing their own thing. So when the people come in who the Anglo-American system of government simply does not cater to,

by the base nature of how different groups of people interact with one another, ethnic cartels form, ethnic superstitions take over. I mean, this practically happened with Italians. You know, I mean, this is not going to fool anybody who's old enough or people who are awoke to the issue. but the introduction of Catholic ethnic neighborhoods into New York, you know, you can watch the movie, gangs of New York, to see what kind of things were going on on the ground. This is a fair depiction of what was going on on the ground.

It was chaos. It was total chaos. And what moved in to solve that problem? Well, the different ethnic groups didn't just segregate themselves. The police force came in to enforce that. and what happened in the civil rights regime in New York the police came in to enforce a new regime and what is coming in now to New York well mom donnie and Katari money and I look at the camera when I say Katari money Katari money is now coming in to fill in the void that has been

left by the fact that New York has totally disintegrated from the original systems and structures like the borough system that were made and designed to accommodate that kind of ethnically organized and tribalized system. Now you have Venezuelans and you have Indians and you have Chinese. And none of these people are going, where we came from in our countries, there was no like town hall situation, which was how Queens was organized. Town halls and Queens were a huge part of how things got up the political ladder. They don't organize this way.

churches, Catholic churches and where I grew up in Queens, were the center of cultural life. There are no Catholic churches. The place where my father and his father and his father all went to school, St. Pancras, is gone.

It's gone, and I think they're replacing it with apartment buildings. Because the new, you know, organizational system is building by building basements. I saw this in Miami, too. The place where now the community, goes to organize is in the basement of the building that their their residents in it's a highly

particularized uh thing that is happening in new york and i do think this mom dani guy is coming in you know and they make sure that he goes out there and he says all the things we're going to arrest netting yahoo sure you are buddy sure you are is anybody believe this does anybody really believe that the Momdani thing is a communist take-o and by communist you know i mean it's a disintegratory rebellion against new york city how dumb have you got to be mom donnie is the consolidator it is precisely the fact that mom-dani is a non-factor ethnically ambiguous know-nothing that is going to allow what really runs new york city which is to say the workers unions and the teachers union, which is increasingly becoming more and more libtarded,

the fact that Mom Dhani is actually an anti-executive is precisely what New York is now going to do to continue what it was that Bill de Blasio was trying to do during COVID, which was to create a new New York identity. Do you remember during COVID all of the stuff that de Blasio was doing? And I don't mean eating the French fries and shit. Do you remember when we were coming out of the lockdowns? There was this big Bill de Blasio plan with all these fat women doing ballet.

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I don't remember that. Believe me, I would remember that. We're bringing culture back, and it's these fat, horrific women. doing ballet and stuff, they are realizing that New York City is going to collapse any day now because there is no cultural solidarity left in the city. So what they're planning on doing now is using the teachers unions, the public grocery stores, I mean, all of Mom Donnie's plan is to make it so that the people who are now coming into New York City do not need to have any kind of ethnic organization or solidarity with the form of government.

The government is going to give them their means of survival, and they're going to power the city's engine for long enough that they can be replaced by Tesla robots. That's the new plan. They realize that because there's no ethnic solidarity left between neighborhoods, between religions, left in New York City, just put the Ugandan Muslim guy in who is going to help us create public grocery stores, who's going to help us, what they want to do is they want to raise the price of the MTA and the subway system so high that they can make the argument, it would be better that people just pay taxes for it. Because you remember, it's only been 30 years since the MTA has been consolidated into like one true company. I mean, it was the 90, you remember, I don't know

if you remember, but used to take the green subway and the red subway, those were different companies. They were fulfilling, you know, different orders. Well, they consolidated into the MTA. And now they want to make the price of getting on a bus so expensive that they can just pitch it that, okay, fine, we'll keep it at this stable price, but your taxes will have to go up. You know, the endless creation of the renter class in this country, the surfs that the elites in New York basically need to run the city for long enough before they can replace them with robots. I mean, that's what's coming and that's what's really coming i hope not not to be too conspiratorial here but i mean i think about it for one second they they tolerated as long as

they could the ethnic solidarity in new york by consequence you know that was how they kept stability in new york before but new york is total a narco tyranny now i i mean i was up there and you know it's not crime i mean it's not violent crime that makes up a narco tyranny always. I just finished recording an episode of Mystery Babylon, which we do on my Patreon. I did it with pause. And the subject of the episode was the Masonic axiom order from chaos, which you can sometimes see when you go into the, you know, the various halls of legislative power in our country. You'll see that axiom sometimes. Order out of chaos. that's the real

thing that's going on in New York City is not violent crime even though that's going up because they need that in order to put more police on the subway or to do all the shit that they want to do the real order out of chaos that's coming in the chaos

is as we're driving I see fewer stores in the storefronts and more people with trucks on the street selling shit more stands where they sell shitty t-shirt these migrants come in and they sell these shitty print t-shirts and fake Rolexes and I mean all this bullshit and I'm not kidding fewer and fewer storefronts actual propped up businesses and like you would think uh okay I got to go get my car wash where do I go to a car wash in most cities you go to a car wash my dad goes I'll

show you where we get car washes now. And this isn't the three years that I've been gone, basically the three or four years that I've been gone. He takes me to this block, this street, which conveniently actually is near that Jewish cemetery I've been talking about, because we're all in this neighborhood. And going down the block is these white vans of guys, and they make it known, they all have Venezuelan flags, like somewhere on their vehicles, because they're so proud to be from Venezuela. That's where they left. certainly couldn't be a humiliation technique, right? No, so they have these Venezuelan flags,

and I'm telling you, 10 or 12 of these white vans, and each one of them has a huge water tank, and a generator, and a sprayer, and all this stuff, and it's two guys, and they'll give you a full detailing and clean your car, 40 bucks. $40, and there's 40 of these guys lined up on this long street. And I'm going, none of these guys have the license, to be doing this.

And we've seen cop cars pass by. They don't give a shit. Their orders are, this is what's supposed to happen. And increasingly, car washes are closing. Increasingly getting into a storefront. I mean, every business that I liked, every restaurant I liked is closed.

But my goodness, can you go to a halal cart and get your shitty, you know, your rat with white sauce that they feed you. That's what you have now is your slop fed to you on the side of the road. So this is the plan is, it's increasingly the creation of chaos in order that they can swoop in at some later time and consolidate again. And that's partially, I think, what's going on right now in our country in many ways.

They are now consolidating many things that the previous administration made chaos out of. It's how it's supposed to work. Some way they kind of all participate in the same dialectic. But that's the state of New York now is, I know you said, Pete, that you. you really didn't ever want to go back. But, you know, if you do go back, I want you to look for chaos. And I don't mean violent crime

and I don't mean that kind of stuff. I mean just on the street. And I don't even mean traffic. I mean stuff that didn't happen 20 years ago. Situations of like people selling shit on the street. And garbage just everywhere all over the street because I guess they don't run garbage all the time anymore in many places.

And so this is what is happening in, you know, the golden American city, like the greatest American city without a doubt. And so don't think, like, when Mamdani is coming in, that this is some kind of socialist upheaval of an otherwise orderly city. It is, it is 100% a continuation of de Blasio. It is 100, a continuation of before de Blasio. Really, it was Mayor Adams. It was Eric Adams, who was kind of like the law and order guy.

They pushed it too far. And then he came in and he instituted a kind of unspoken stop and frisk. Because they could finally sell it to all of the new minorities who come in, like the Indians and things like that. The people who are now getting robbed and going, wait a minute, we're supposed to live in this country without any fear of anything. So they finally bring the law and order guy back in. He cleans up a few things. Then they catch him on some corruption charge, push him. out and guess what the corruption charge is the excuse that they used to go we need a new kind of

politician mom donnie and they push mom donnie and guess what mom donnie is he was a school uh he was a student president that's his qualifications that he was a student president at his school he's going to do exactly what they want was just to say kind of sign documents and go okay i guess so and that's the choice that you've been given. The other choice, if you didn't want Mom Donnie, is you get a guy like Andrew Cuomo who wears nipple rings and brags about having anal sex with prostitutes and things like that. So you can have that or the other thing. And either way, New York will just continue the way that it was supposed to go along, you know? That's just how it's designed. This Black Friday game stream and go full speed with one gig sky broadband and watch Unmissible

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you know, maybe not immediately, but eventually snowballed and snowballed and led to even less social cohesion amongst a religious group that was even, you know, even when you have, even when the, the teachers union is 60% Jewish, this other, this other group has a lot of power in that city, but it seems like everything since 1965, because 1965 was, you know, a war on not only the, you know, basically instituting a race war. right instead of race war but also to um you know try to weaken a church that had very um you know very strong ties in the community i think you're totally right i don't know if you want me to not name the thing that we're talking about but i'll have to inevitably i mean that is why talking about

i know yeah that is why you know the vatican two was started under pope john the 23rd but it was finished under pope paul the sixth let's that's the thing that's that's the thing that's we need to remember is that it was finished under pope paul the sixth he was the second president of vatican two and it's not a coincidence that vatican two occurs in 1965 and at the very same time the uh catholic legion of decency which was founded in 1933 and it led to a golden age of film and not just a golden age of film but the hayes code is slowly is slowly being phased out at that point you know, 1968,

it's completely abolished. That's right. And in, well, in 1965, it was reorganized. The, the Catholic

film decency league was reorganized. Uh, it, it, it was reorganized into the national Catholic office

for motion pictures. And what that meant was, it was reorganized in a manner that undermined it completely, because by 1980, it ceased to exist. 15 years it lasted. Ceased to exist.

And people forget that. You know, for all the, they, all the, they, the wasps rag on Catholics, I mean, between 1933 and 1965, Catholics were ensuring that all of the films in Hollywood ascribed to a certain code of decency, which was totally unobjectionable.

And not only was it unobjectionable, but look at what you get immediately afterwards. I mean, immediately afterwards, once it ceases by 1980, you have MTV. And look, I'm not, I love rock and roll. It's demonic, though. I mean, it is, it is demonic and it is meant to replace a moral decency. So, like, I get it, you know, but this is what the plan was all along. And I don't mean that literally in terms of Vatican II, although I have my issues with, I mean, I think it's in arguable that the mission of Vatican II was to appeal to a modern person

and get more people in the seats. That was the mission. It's unequivocally failed in that mission. So, you know, you can say whatever you want. There are people who will detract and say it was heretical. There are people who say it wasn't heretical. It was a total failure. And that's where I certainly said.

It was a total absolute failure. And it led to, as you say, it led to the solidarity breakup of Catholics throughout the country. And it's at the same time that all of the Catholic enclaves start to deplete. You can see in Philadelphia, 1965, begins the tumbling away of that generation of people. Catholics in that city from their solidarity. Same thing goes on in New York. It actually takes a little bit longer in New York, at least in my experience, there were still strongly Polish Catholic neighborhoods. But the thing about Polish Catholics is they speak Polish at home. That was almost the issue with Italians until Italians decided, okay, we will speak English at home. I know kids

growing up, I grew up in the 2000s who spoke Polish as their primary language. their grandparents came over to America. They spoke Polish at home in their primary language. So there is kind of a cutoff, a borderline, if you will, of where it becomes inexplicable to be able to continue the stability that we had in this country between 1933 and 1965. And again, even by 1965, things are really crumbling. But you brought up Vatican, too.

And that really is like, in my opinion, it wasn't the start of a new era. it was kind of the capstone of the of the previous era we kind of haven't found our way into the new catholic era yet in my opinion maybe that'll change but yeah i think that's you're absolutely right and listen i'm not knowledgeable enough on protestant happenings to know if a similar thing occurred in protestantism in the 60s but i know the thing that kind of occurred to everybody was you know the the the summer of love i i whatever the schools of thought were everything converged on the the mass proliferation of ultra-liberal culture into I should actually say ultra-libertine culture is probably the more appropriate way to put it into the mainstream you know the

watershed rule everything is going on to the point where yeah now we're in a fully desacralized and overly sexualized country and I think you do start to see a pull back but I do wonder, I've talked about this with Aaron, my lovely co-host, we're going to be doing in 26 a kind of a semi-satirical series of episodes of debates that were going to hold because what we came to the conclusion of was, again, this is satirical, but by 2065, you probably will have such an atomization of people that you will get these kind of, oh, overlapping polycentric governance forms within the country. So that you'll have, we said in, like in the Atlanta area,

you'll kind of have like the black reservation of people. And that would be like the cultural center of a new black America. And then we had like what's going to go on in the Northeast. What's going to go on in California? And I really think it, if, if total atomization of ethnic groups is occurring in the cities, I mean, what do you think is going to happen in the area where you live? You know, the area where you live is going to respond similarly.

And it's going to become a place that offers not an older way of American life, but a kind of, and I mean, I use the term for lack of a better one, a kind of way of life that's vaccinated from the problems going on in big city America. which I think comes with its own, you know, issues. I mean, for instance, what do you think of the project of, I think his name is Nicholas Arval, the project of going back to the land. I mean, what do you think about that in terms of a project,

a response to what is inevitably happening in the big cities in America? Well, I mean, he seems like he's found a loophole in the law to be able to escape, you know, the fact that we don't have freedom of association. anymore. I mean, I think that that's going to happen. I think that it's pretty much inevitable. I know a lot of people, you know, don't want to give up the cities, and I would never tell them to, I just don't want to live in a city anymore. It's just not conducive to my health. I mean, I just, I feel a whole lot more healthy out, living out in the middle of nowhere. So, you know, I used to tell people leave the cities, leave the cities. I'm, you know,

And if it's for you, it's for you. If you want to stay and fight for the cities, you know, it's not, but, you know, I mean, that leads me to another, but that leads you to another question is if you do take that, like to do what they're doing with return to the land in Arkansas, do you, you think, and I'm asking you, Berto, are things going to get? get better. I'm, you know, I see, well, I hear a lot of lip service from Trump about taking down these networks of, you know, leftist ultraviolence and violence. But if that doesn't happen, I mean, there's no telling what 2028 is going to bring, even if J.D. Vance does

get elected or somebody else in the in the republican sphere gets elected there's no guarantee that they're going to you know try to do it and you know you still have to answer the question the question still needs to be addressed when you have a managerial regime that's been going on for almost 100 years now, can that be fixed without tearing it out root, you know, root and stem? Yeah. I'm of the opinion that I can't. Yeah. And can I say to you, I know what you mean when you say, can it be fixed?

Because you're talking about from your perspective, can this machine be made to do something I want it to do? But yeah, I would also. I would also argue, yeah, is it broken? And I don't think that it is. I think it's doing exactly what, again, I people, actually everybody has been very accommodating of, in the past year, Paz and I have embarked on this very long journey to listen to the radio series, Hour of the Time, specifically Bill Cooper's Mystery Babylon section, which makes up about 40-something episodes. And yeah, it's a lot of people don't like woo-woo. And I get that.

I really do. But everybody's been very accommodating of our exploration of it because in my opinion, the system is working exactly as it's designed to work. Because the thing that elites are concerned most about is their own survival. And the maintenance of their particular factions control. So I don't tend to think elites are one thing. I think this is where a lot of people get it wrong. I think there's factions of elites that we circulate through.

And in my opinion, if you just go by what they tell you at the top of the Masonic Lodge order from chaos, then I would answer you that the machine that you say is broken that you'd like to fix and turn towards you actually isn't broken at all and is doing exactly what they want it to do, which is to manufacture crises to the point where they can consolidate their power. into a singular unitary state, a singular unitary currency, a singular unitary religion, and eventually a singular unitary race. I think that's exactly what they want. I think, and again, you can say, well, this is very pie in the sky. Listen, I welcome you to listen to the 30-something episodes of coverage of Mystery Babylon that

Paz and I have done, where we don't just listen to Bill. I try to update Bill with my thoughts. And on that, I've done there for 30 hours, actually closer probably to 50 because we go about an hour and a half each, sometimes too. I've detailed what I think the kind of natural progression that our elites have in mind looks like. And I think it very much looks like a single nation unitary and a single currency and a single religion and a single race. So the kind of melting pot idea, which was inserted to our national mythos in the kind of what I call the second birth of America, you know, not heritage Americans, not Civil War Americans, but Ellis Island Americans going further. That plan has always been to make one race out of America. It has not always been to kind of keep everybody separate. That was the first plan in America. Yeah, maybe we can have a Roman Empire style America where every. group has its own nation, basically just replace the Indians who are a very different tribal

nations that war with one another, make peace with one another, trade with one another, and otherwise live in their own plot. Let's just replace them with the ethnic groups that we need to do the work. We need to make this country the great work. The second America came in and said, well, yeah, but we got to incorporate theosophy. We can't just do masonry. Now we need to do the one root race, the singular religion, mark of the beast. We need one currency.

And again, a lot of this is stressed in like this occult, exaggeratory language. But this is the plan. I mean, and if you don't believe it's the plan, what is international communism? There has been real experiments to do this. I mean, the Chinese are at the forefront of a fully integratory system where one day everybody will be Chinese. How do I know that? Because the actual Han ethnic group of Chinese people, it's only about 300 million people. So why are there a billion and a half Han?

Well, it's because they changed the definition to make everybody Han. That's international communism. That's what they want to do here. They want to replace the first system of America with the second one, which is international communism integrated under one unitary form. That's how they consolidate their power, and they're using New York as an experiment to do that. Mamdani is coming in to see if we can get everybody eating the same shit

from our stupid public grocery stores. everybody lives in a rent-controlled house where they have their kids that live there and their kids that live there. They've created China. I mean, they've created the Kowloon-Walled city. That's like the ideal experiment, you know, that they, the elites, would like. So I know that the kind of journey that I've been on, people go, well, what about the Jews? And because, you know, as we've talked about on this show, the Jews control even everything, right? Pete, I mean, they control everything at all times and all moments.

No other group could ever possibly be working with them or along. So it's all just one thing. Look at that one thing. Say, say, that one thing. Please, please say psych, because somebody's going to think.

They think I'm serious. Yeah. Yeah, no, that two listener is a gigantic distraction. Is these cosmically Israel brain. I mean, there's way more going on. You got to pay attention to the other things that are going on.

There's way more going on. but I mean, you have to admit if there is one, if there's a foreign entity to the United States, to the founding, you know, the first United States, um, that has basically taking over, not taken over, like taken over,

but has instilled their ideology of the culture of critique into everything. It's them. Well, yeah. I mean, it is. Yeah. But, you know, to, it's got to be.

Pabola came from somewhere. What, you know, this is a, that's, I mean, that's the kind of thing is, at first it was a magical system. It's now become a political system. Right. And, you know, you can, if you want to see what the end result of the Kabbala system is, we'll look at Gaza City right now. Right. Or what it will look like in five years if this ridiculous plan that for some, I don't even, has Hamas really accepted the plan? Who's Hamas?

Can someone answer me that question? Who in Hamas goes? Do you remember when they were bringing out the, when, when Jewish Twitter flipped out, when they were bringing out some hostages and they brought out like you, you can see it was, obviously it was a child in a cop. It was a child-sized coffin by a bunch of guys who were all wearing completely brand new creased uniforms. I know.

And with AK-47s that have like AC-Cogs on them. Right. And I'm sitting there going, so these guys are living underground in brand new uniforms with $1,200 sites on their AKs that just happen to be fit with Midwest industries like dust covers, rail dust covers. Okay, sure. Why not? Yeah.

So when you ask me who Hamas is, I have no fucking clue. Nobody is Hamas. I mean, everybody and nobody is Hamas. There is not a group called Hamas. So the guys that they blew up when they were negotiating with them, who was that? This is like what honestly, dude, it's like what the American government did when they were negotiating with the Indians. They would go into an area where the Indians were and they would go, you're the boss, right? And some guy would go, uh, yeah. And they would go, you want $100 for all this land, right? And the one guy would go, uh, yes, yes, I do. And then they would send a letter out. They would go, okay, everybody, time to move. This guy, your chief sold us, his land. And everybody's going, our chief, that's what's going on in Gaza right now with Hamas. Everybody's going, who is Hamas? Because you killed Henea, who was only the representative of kind of one arm.

of the Palestinian people. Now, who is Hamas? Nobody. So when they go, oh, Hamas has accepted the deal. Am I supposed to go, well, I believe that because that's what it says on the internet. I'm not in Gaza. How do we know people aren't going around in Gaza going,

who accepted this? Who is that guy? They do that already. I mean, there's two million people there. Already, if you go on the ground and you go, uh, who's a Hamas? commander. They would go,

I don't know. We don't know their names. We don't elect them. And they go, it was an election. They elected Hamas. Who elected who? Who elected who? It's just such a fake.

So when you say, look at Gaza City, I say further to you, and this is not new. A.A. is talking about this. And Oren is talking about this. Candice is talking about this. Larry Ellison and Tony Blair are now involved. That is what it's going to look like. In 10 years, they are trying on Gaza now what New York will look like in 15 years, 20 years.

Biometric security state. And you know what? It's probably going to be better for the, quote, Palestinians in the biometric security state than it was in the open genocentric. side period. But they're only doing that as a testing ground. This is essentially when, you know, they get out there and the North Koreans are doing their military strategy runs, you know, and they're lobbing missiles like a mile off of the coast of Japan, because what they will do is we're going, okay, we know if we can do it there, we can just lob it one mile further and we're good to go.

And that's what they're doing in Gaza. They're going, well, if we can control like a highly radicalized a group of people with biometric data and so we know where they all are. I mean, what is Palantir? The point of Palantir is that it's meant to predict when crime will happen.

They're going to unload that people are going oh, we couldn't find the guy who killed Charlie Kirk. What's Palantir doing? I don't know. Think about what you just said. Think about what you just said. If Palantir didn't find the guy, maybe it's because Palantir wasn't being

used to find the actual guy. I don't know. That's what they're trying to do. And it is people turn off because they go, this is black billing or this is, you know, real conspiracy. This is cuckoo stuff. It's really not cuckoo stuff. They've been talking about this since Agenda 21 in 1993. You know, they have been talking about the one new world order, which is where do you think country is that coming out of hours? It's coming out of our country. It's coming out of our country. that idea. And it's been that idea since, who knows, probably the first America. So we shouldn't be naive about who the players are. And we, you know, I think one thing, one power that Trump had was that he, he was so charismatic that he made everybody go, oh, this team is the good team.

and you see like this team is the good team slowly is moving into the Republican Party is the good team because people are are rhetorically mixing things up people are finding themselves as like no we're the real Republicans you know this is the new thing that people are being shoved into

there's an old GOP and there's a new GOP and we're that new GOP baby Trump 2025 and you're going so you're a part of the dialectic now so you're a part of the system's internal mechanism to constantly maintain its own security where do you think that's going to lead to the 35 million necessary deportations they went out there and tom homin is going well there's 3 million people have deported 2.1 million self-deports and you're going How do you know? How do you know they filled their paperwork out? You're going to tell me that app

There's 2.1 million or whatever it was people who self-deported What a crock of shit that is. I'll tell you, certainly I was just up in New York and I go down to Miami all the time. I don't know who self-deported. all the neighborhoods that I knew of that were like illegal hangouts are still full. So I don't know what people self-deported. You know, more and more I become, I wouldn't call it conspiratorial. You got to remember that old phrase, it's a big club and you're not in it. I mean, it didn't go away. It didn't go away.

Now, I'm not saying don't trust anything you hear. But I am saying, consider that the guys who, you know, quotes are your enemy you know really are part of a dialectic to the guys who quote are your friend and where is that dialectic going i mean you can say i think you can say well we're taking this country back we're breaking the dialectic you want to hope that right but i mean what have you done you know what have you done that's actually undermined the way the country's currently going into being a a a uh i mean technocratic lead uh a biometric shithole what's done it because in california gavin newsome just made it illegal for tech companies to hold people's data after the deletion of

accounts and people are going yay freedom or people are going oh what is this guy doing he hates the free market no what he's doing is he's forcing california companies to delete the data of the and narco terrorists who operate running their accounts. That's what he wants to do. He is part of the terror that Trump is now going to come in and use the Insurrection Act against. And guess what? They're real terrorists.

They are. And they really, I want nothing more than that one street in Portland. I want them to just run the killdozer through it. Every time I see it, I want them to just run the killdozer through it. but I have to remember like that just because that team is on TV and they're showing it to you and going look a civil war in America you know is that really the big problem right now because I see a lot of other issues for men of our concerns going on than like a street worth of you know Antifa it's it's it's Pro wrestling. I mean, it's like, it's like Triple H running out there and hitting somebody with a chair is what it feels like.

Sometimes you, I don't know if you saw Nick Shirley's videos on YouTube or some of the people who go with the camera. The new girl who's the new Michelle Malkin, whatever her name is Savannah Hernandez. They go out there and they, uh, they put the camera in the face of these crazy libs and the crazy lips stick their tongue out and they go, that Satan.

And you're supposed to go, is this? Is this really the problem? couldn't ice just kill all these people if they wanted i mean i see they shoot people in the head with the they can do whatever they want is this really a problem or is that problem seems to be handled i mean they're out there they're not throwing firebombs they haven't killed anybody is this really a problem or is this part of a show is this a containment mechanism to like let people steam off i said the other day that the thing that i was most worried about was um the fact that you declare war at home. Now, I'm going to say this with the caveat that I have no clue,

but I heard from somebody in an industry that would know that we're like imminently, there's an imminent strike coming against a country, but the United States is going to be imminently striking a country. And what I said was that at home, you can. and say, oh, we're declaring war on all these people that hate you. And, yeah, I believe that these are. These people are anti-white. They've bought into the anti-white thing, and they will, you know, they will kill you, and they're destructive, and they need to be destroyed.

Right. Right. But, you know, is the war at home when, you know, when you have someone going, oh, we're going to go out there and we're going to crush these people and everything like that? Right. Is somebody whispering in their ear, in the other ear going, you know, the best way if you want to do this to distract from what you're doing at home is go bomb and start a skirmish somewhere else overseas. Everybody will concentrate on that and you'll be able to do what you need at home. But the problem is, is that, as we know, foreign always takes priority over domestic.

So all of a sudden, the foreign will become where, you know, the president or his administration points all of their resources. And then at home, it's like, oh, you know, we'll arrest someone here and deport some people here. And people think we're doing stuff. But, you know, actually what we're doing is we're, you know, we're getting Venezuela. is oil and Venezuela is sludgy is venezuel is sludgy shitty oil yeah we you know that's where I was predicting we're going to go to war with too Mexico is possibly also an option we should remember I was talking a friend of

mine in New York normal liberal guy I was like here's the places I think we're going to go to war he was like Mexico why are we going to war in Mexico they're our neighbor and I went could you please Google how many times in this country we've been to war with Mexico this is not a foreign concept we'd we we We do it once every 50 years, right? So it's very possible it could be, because the fentanyl is the perfect excuse to go to war with Mexico.

And the other drugs are the perfect excuse. You saw Hegg Seth calling all the generals and oh, we gotta get tough, right? And everybody's going, ha ha, he called, you know, General Millie Fat. And it's like, yeah, he's telling them to get tough or get out, why? It wasn't pure entertainment.

He's going because he's, going because we need to get ready to go to war this is exactly what stuff this is exactly what Stalin did in Russia everybody thinks that the great purge um was him oh well Stalin was anti-Semitic so he wanted to get rid of all the Jews and he was he was purging his generals and his his officer corps of revolutionaries right these are all people that were revolutionaries and when revolutionary violence was needed, they were there. But now he is planning to invade Europe. So he needs military. He needs, you know, he needs a thousand Zhukovs. He doesn't need a bunch of frigging Trotsky's. So he either killed or exiled all of the revolutionaries

he had in the officer corps, which turned out that a bunch of them were Jewish. Okay. They were just holdovers from the Bolsheviks, right? Yeah, they were just Bolshevik holdovers. It's a Bolsheviks where the real revolutionaries. I mean, they kept going. They were like, no, wait, Stalin, we got to keep going. What do you mean? Yeah.

Stalin goes, um, actually we have a state now. And we actually, we need to keep the state running. And we need to expand it through war. Your whole like Lucia Farian project is going to have to wait. Yeah, yeah, you guys are, yeah, we need to expand it through war. And you guys are not warriors. You guys are not leaders. You guys are not leaders in a time of war.

And I mean, that could, it's pretty much what you're describing right now. I mean, obviously they're not going to take them out and shoot them or send them to, you know, get Mo or Goulogs. But that's pretty much exactly what you were, what you're saying could possibly be happening as you're not saying is what's happening. No, and I don't also like I'm not, I don't even know if it's a bad thing. I don't view these things in good or bad. I just think it's an inevitable. A state is primarily

concerned with its own security. And the elites that operated are primarily concerned with their own security. They don't really, I mean, the culture war stuff, you know, it's a cliche to say this. The culture war stuff is to them a distraction. They are putting us under it

because they know it distracts us. To us, we go, yeah, it probably is distracting. You decided to flood schools and libraries with drag queens. Of course I'm going to be distracted by solving this problem. Right. So it is a distraction. That doesn't mean you shouldn't fight it. We absolutely cannot have that. But at the same time, the level of the culture war is so much lower than what they are planning on doing. Because the whole thing about Venezuela is it could be the oil. I think, I tend to think maybe it has a lot to do with the fact that they are a massive creditor to China.

Yeah, they are in so much debt to China. And the best way that we can fight our war against China before it goes full nuclear is to just undermine their economy and hope that a regime change occurs. You know, there's a major collapse. And if we basically force Venezuela to default, you're not getting any more money, China. Maduro is not paying you any more money for your oil. infrastructure that you built you know they've China built all that stuff not Venezuela then as well as fund got the funds got completely frozen I mean they need they are trying to keep up with the pace of bricks and that's I mean that's

what's going on in Brazil to their communist leader that they have is basically the only party in that region that's keeping Venezuela afloat and it's all tied into China that's really what they want to do so I think Mexico maybe but I think Venezuela is so likely. I think this whole like blowing up the boat stuff, they're gauging public opinion to see how far they need to manufacture it. Maybe there were narco terrorists on those boats. Maybe not.

I mean, I tend to believe there were narco terrorists on those boats because one of the ways Venezuela makes money is by selling drugs to the American market. I think they really do do that. That's what pariah states usually do. But they also sell oil to China. I mean, they do a lot of things at the behest of China and otherwise.

But they are, I mean, they are in the tank for a massive amount of money to China, hundreds of billions of dollars to China. And if we can basically cut that off, I mean, is anybody so stupid as to go, oh, that Venezuelan opposition leader who got the Nobel Prize gave it to Trump? What a patriot. What a patriot. I mean, she is. She is a patriot because she more than anybody else.

really wants to further America's hegemony in the region. That's why she gave it to Trump. She gave it to Trump so that Trump could go, well, I didn't win it, but the person who won it gave it to me. You know, they donated it to me because at the end of the day, I'm the peace candidate and the peace prize leader knows it. And all the meanwhile will be, you know, regime change in Venezuela would be the easy way. And again, I was talking about this with Carr on an episode on a Patreon.

of over the line where me and him just get on there, we talk about stuff. That is kind of what we came to the conclusion of was, I mean, you could probably sell the American public on a regime change war in Venezuela. They've already been running the rhetoric that Maduro is a drug cartel leader, which he is, factually speaking, he actually is a drug cartel leader. They've already been pushing towards the idea that, well, in multipolarity, maybe we can't win a war against China for Taiwan. So we might as well shore up our near industry. We might as well

shore up the region. And so Carr and I are going, the car is a libertarian, and I'm not a libertarian, but we agree, we're going, you can probably sell that war. I mean, you can probably go, look, it's going to be a quick six-month engagement. We're going to get in there, clear as narco-terrorists out and go. Now, maybe it takes

us 10 years, but you know, the plan that Wesley Clark outlined for the Middle East took 20-something years they have all about completed the goal of getting Israel to be self-sufficient enough that it can it can undergo the greater Israel project I mean once they got nuclear weapons how is it not greater Israel in all but you know Liebans realm it basically already is so I they are doing this now they realize multipolarity is coming the the the unipolar American moment is over and

And the only country in the region who's really our rival is Venezuela, and they owe a lot of money to China. So we got to get rid of them. Well, a lot of people are saying that this is just basically like a continuation of the Monroe Doctrine, except Monroe Doctrine was obviously passed to stop European expansion into the region. And this would be to stop any expansion into the region that we would become Hedgemon over. the region. Right. The problem is, is that you, in order to do that, if you, if you, and I'm not saying it's a good thing, um, because government sucks at everything it does.

Uh, what I, what I would say is you can't do that and still be tied to Israel. You, you, you just can't. I mean, I mean, if he wants to do this whole thing where Gaza is rebuilt and turned into, to the Las Vegas of the Levant. Oh, I'm sorry, wasn't it? Baitrean used to be that. But then I don't care. I mean, I know it's, I don't want to sound like a libertarian,

but don't use tax money for it, let private investors do it. I hate the whole, you know, Stephen Carson was on the show. Radlob was on the show with me, and he went over the whole thing about it. how basically Israel has been using the Palestinians, especially the ones in Gaza, as basically experiment.

Like, that's how they use the experiments on them with their, not only their weapons and technology, but also on their surveillance. And so that they have, they have this, you know, captive population that they can test all of these things on so that they can sell. them. I don't think the whole security apparatus looked very good on October 7th.

So that's why most people think it was a false flag or at least allowed to happen. But yeah, I mean, you just can't, if you're going to do Monroe Doctrine kind of shit in your hemisphere, yeah, I mean, you can't be fucking around, you know, six thousand miles away on a shitty piece of land where nothing grows. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I think, although I will say I'm kind of confounded by this deal, this supposed deal. My only conclusion to this new deal is that nobody named Hamas accepted it,

and it's designed to eventually fail. Because they've been talking about Greater Israel forever. Greater Israel is exactly what the United States needs in a multipolar world. It needs a self-sufficient Israel that it remains in a tentative alliance with in order to secure what means it needs to secure in the Middle East. But they are, I mean, the more obvious thing is everybody laughed at the Starmor idea of the coalition of the willing. But it was just an admittance on part of Starmor and Trump that, yes, the war is now being handed over. and it's not just the war that's being handed over. Everything that comes with that is what's being handed over.

So I expect in not too far of the future, you'll start to see the end of the American occupation of Europe in NATO. NATO will still continue to exist. The United States will still have a kind of consultory position. But I expect if multipolarity is real and being forced to, upon the United States, they will probably prop Europe up to be able to defend itself against what they view as the competitive block in Russia, China, just bricks, most generally. And they're trying to do the same thing in Israel. They're trying, you know, the nuclear bomb helps. And that's

why they killed Kennedy so that they could do it and not have to give them up. And that worked. So they, when they killed Kennedy, they basically secured their essential existence because of the nuclear weapon and because of nuclear deterrence. But now they really, and you'll see this with the most honest of the settler Zionists, their real goal, of course, is to secure the Israeli hegemony of the region that extends from the Euphrates to the Nile. they don't really have aspirations for anything larger than that and when people talk about they want to build the third temple look if they wanted to build the third temple they want to build a third temple with what they just did to gaza if they wanted to confiscate that area they would okay there's nobody there's nobody who's preventing them from from destroying that mosque and building the third temple if they want to that stuff is

part of the distraction they want greater israel they want greater israel because the state of israel's main concern is what we just said it million times the concern of every state is the security of that state. That is the main thing that a state is an organism wants to do. It's the same reason why you is a human. You eat food, you breathe, you pray, you have an immune system. Your main concern is your security in as many ways as you can encapsulate that. That is what every organism's main goal is. That's what the state of Israel's goal is. And it aligns perfectly with America's need to kind of get the hell out of the world. We cannot afford it. We can't back it up. How many more humiliations do we need i mean ukraine was a major humiliation a major humiliation and of course

trump will never tell you that trump will tell you the europeans will be able to fight the russians back to moscow that's a comedy act well i mean trump can say whatever he wants i mean the the people who did this and design you know basically provoked this it was scott horton a little credit Um, they didn't care if there was a win or not. They just needed a, they just needed bodies. They needed human beings to die. I mean, that is the win. Yeah.

That's the win because the why did the war happen? What's because Russia was provoked because NATO forces kept inching up and up against their border. So the war going on does what, who does that serve? I mean, not one European besides Ukraine. have fought in this other than, you know, the volunteers. So they still have all Europe ready to go. So who's really losing? And I don't mean who's not putting up a good fight. I mean, in whose interest is the war going at a stalemate? It's Europe's interest. Because the weapons, the missiles, the bases are already pressed up against the border that they've been pressed up against on.

They haven't moved back at all. This is exactly according to plan. I mean, But it's a humiliation for America is what I mean. It is a humiliation for America. Yes, the goal ultimately is stasis and the war in Ukraine is stasis. But it's no denial. The people who wanted that war don't care if it looks bad. Oh, no. Because they have their own country.

They have all of it. They really have all of it. It's not just that they have their own hiding place, which yes, they're trying to set up to be self-sufficient. It's not yet, not yet there, but soon, soon it will be. They've got to get rid of one more rival in the region, and that's Iran. I expect the United States won't even involve itself in that, though. I think that is the point, is they're trying to set Israel up with enough security

that Israel can go and do what it needs to do in Iran, which is a regime change primarily or secondarily. just keep their missile program at 50% so that they can never get a nuke. Because when they get a nuke, it becomes a very different issue for Israel, a very different problem. Then it's two level of a playing field. So they need regime change. They'll put the polo vs back in, you know, and it'll go back to wearing miniskirts. And the whole stupid liberal world will go, wow, freedom.

It's crazy. but yeah, that's where we're going and I've been, I don't like to produce, you know, I'm producing but I, Venezuela, it seems the obvious win. I mean, it's an obvious, and when I say win, I mean,

the goals of the American war state will be achieved. And boy, do they need that, and they could sell it to the American people too. Yeah. Let's leave it there. I'm going about an hour and a half, so.

Um, well, I know, you've already promoted a bunch of stuff. Is there anything else you want to promote? You promoted your whole series and everything, which, yeah, no, just, you know, I'm probably going to, oh, no, I'm definitely going to listen, but probably not until everything's done and I can just binge it all in one, like a week or something like that. I recommend that. Um, we, we, uh, so I, I, no plugs, but, but I will say this. Normally I like to come on and be funny, right? You know, there wasn't going to do some news.

It didn't happen today. It didn't happen today, no. You know, I will say trust in Hollyhounds. That's how I'll end the episode. Trust in Holly hands. I assume that the way they've used that kid already, probably runs around with a diaper. Poor kid.

They're so gross. Did you see? Have you seen any of like the people asking him questions? And he like, um, he, he just malice. like malfunctions.

Yeah. Whenever anyone brings up like America first and, yeah. You know, or he is, you know, he's a Franklin scandal victim. I'm convinced.

Or he goes into his, oh, you know, we need legal immigration. It's like, sure, yeah, sure, pal.

Just need all those, need all those subcontinentals coming in, you know, so that we're, so that all of the, there's an app in all of the United States. to avoid stepping in human shit. Jesus.

It's common. I think it's common. All right, Berdo. Thank you. Peace.