The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1279: 'Heal the World, Man!" w/ The Thought Crime Syndicate

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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wanted to talk about Start off talking about Venezuela So I'll let him take the floor And run with it. Go ahead, D. Well, I don't have much to say other than like And obviously Jose would know way more than I do. But you have the United States effectively like preparing for war

And sabotaging Russian infrastructure and Israel is suffered admittedly like on war online and with seven other people around them. And the, the, the omnibiliterance of, of the current regime of the Nuremberg regime is, is a really bad sign. Like, that's, it's a, you know, people who voted for Trump wanted peace, we're tired of these forever wars. And now we've got like, what, 10 wars going, you know, the Israeli war with the Yemen, the Israeli war with Iran, the Israeli world with the Lebanon, the Israeli war was, you know, was left to Syria. And it's just, it, it's a very, very bad sign. You look at. historical examples and when you know

gigantic empire generally starting all these small brush fire wars it's usually a very bad sign of instability and bad things so this is not this is not a strong regime like imposing its will it's it's flailing and retarded

that was my my main concern is that we have this Jose what do you have Jose what do you got on Venezuela yes I agree

with D's assessment that the U.S. is just flailing around in a retarded and desperate manner. And what we're seeing here is that the U.S. is trying to look for any type of W it can get on the world stage after just pouring billions into the failed Ukraine project and also pouring like another like 30 plus billion in the Israel-Gaza conflict. as well, which hasn't even produced a definitive conclusion. I mean, the ceasefire, it's temporary at best, and it doesn't resolve the main issue of the parasitic nature of the U.S.'s relationship with Israel.

And the Venezuela thing, I think it's been the next stage of an ongoing process where I've argued that Venezuela, regardless of what people think of the nature of the regime, It has consistently been in the Chavez era the most anti-Zionist country in South America, and it's also increasingly gravitated towards China, which has angered the neoconservatives set in D.C. beyond belief, and they want to find a way to stick it to the anti-Zionist pro-Eurasian axis. And Venezuela is the next, is the next ripe target. because it is a relatively unstable regime that's marked by a lot of corruption,

massive influx of migrants and whatnot. And it's almost perfect in a way because if they turn Venezuela into the next Libya, the house wins regardless of what happens to Venezuela, whether they get a regime, a successful regime change operation and put that bobblehead, Maria Carriano Machado, in charge, or this turned into a Libya and it just turns into a drug cartel run state because they get a ton of migrants, which is perfect for the Florida Republican Party who wants to turn Florida and the Sunbelt into one big Latin American Latin fundia with all the migrants coming in.

And this is like the perfect project for it. And also, let's face it as well, because of the fact that Venezuela, going off on the anti-Zionist, no, it has strengthened ties with countries like Iran and even Assad, Syria, before regime change there. It has become a better noir for the Jewish neoconservative set in D.C. They want to make an example of it. And they win in many respects, regardless of the outcome, because a destabilized Venezuela can provide a lot of migrants. It also deprives China and other here competitors of the U.S.

of an asset they can use to poke the U.S. in the face with. Yeah, the, this whole thing, it's about it's almost like a mirror of the all the interests that are fighting to control the Trump White House. I mean, we know who what interest has what interest group has controlled at the most so far. And but yeah, you see the Zionist lobby in there. You see the China Hawks in there. Um, the tech guys, the oil lobby for sure. I think the, um, I think the, um, the, um, the, Venezuelan oil is basically sludge. It's probably the dirtiest oil on the planet.

There's huge reserves. But I think three, there's only like three or four refineries in the world. Don't quote me on that. And if I'm wrong on that, somebody correct me. And like three of them are here. And two of them are in Texas. And I think they're both owned by Charles Coke. But the, yeah, the,

it just seems like Venezuela is the next playground, the next place to be like, okay, if we can just get Maduro this bus driver out of power, we can carve this up and divvy it up however much, however we want. Yeah. I mean, the context is key here because the U.S. also is in massive amounts of debt. So having access to these resources is very, key. And that's one thing too. There's like a kind of retro futuristic reversion to almost like

19th century resource grab geopolitics. And I've argued this as well that you're going to see a revival of like the North American Union type project, especially with regards to Canada. Some people regard Trump's Canada comments as like bluster. But when you look at like the Canadian prairie areas, there's tons of oil reserves. there as well. And I think this is a way to breathe extra life into the dying pan judah by engaging in these type of projects that either involve like outright annexation or at least regime change that facilitates the influx of resources. Anybody else got anything on that?

Well, just that to Jose's went about China, right? Being cooperative, this kind of chessboard. You know, China just tightened exports on rare earth minerals, right, which is to say everything that goes into your cell phone, consumer electronics. I forget how much of it's in computers, but also a lot of military stuff. All these high-tech missiles require rare earth minerals. And we don't have any really not much in North America. I mean, they're available, but they're in the ground, and they take years and years to develop. And they didn't develop them here, partly because it was dirty, but also because the kind of guys who work in mines, and I've worked on mines before, they're white, they're working class, they drive big trucks, they like guns, and they vote for Trump. So, like, there was a deliberate effort by the Obama administration to, like, politically disempower.

the kind of guys that work in minds and energy. And so there's this whole problem of, like, you're on this hornism of dilemma. Like, if we're just, if it's just resources, we're just going after resources, right? Then why are we, we wasting resources, like feeding all these foreigners? You know, if it's pure resource competition, then why is the United States like, right? So, or if ideology is the thing that matters, why are we wasting time with, basically, the self-contradictions of the Zionist regime have kind of come home to Rusner, untenable. ESB transformed how the country powered itself once.

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there are some regimes that we can be friendly with. We can trade openly with. I mean, we can even hand over our national security interests to them, China, where, I mean, they make stuff that if they stopped making it, we the country would grind to a halt um but there are certain regimes that you're just not allowed to do that with and you know the perfect example too is russia you know they want those ukrainian those ukrainian minerals and well we're not going to because ukraine is a basically it's a zionist project and russia isn't going to allow their you know that us to take over the parts that have

those minerals you have to start a war with russia and it's you know it's a proxy war our guys aren't dying there is that i know of but i mean this is just when you're dealing with people when you see that you have a people who they go to a country, they displace the people who are there, they keep a bunch of them hostage so that they can abuse them. And then whenever they fight back, they have an excuse. And they go, God, look what we did. We've tried so hard with these people, but they just want to kill us. So you have an excuse to, you always have an excuse and people are always feeling bad for you because you're under each, you know, eternal attack.

pack from from your neighbor that should just love you. You also get to test all of your weapons systems and your surveillance systems on them that you sell to other countries. So basically, you have a, you just have a laboratory to test all these things and a people to test them on. Well, why? And if that, if those people, if a lot of those people are, if that ideology has basically taken over your country, why wouldn't you treat Venezuela like that? Because, you know, they're not in line with, you know, they're probably not in line with the project that we're trying to build. and Russia is not in line with the project that we're trying to build. And North Korea and Cuba and all these states basically turn into hellholes

where the leaders are just trying not to get killed, trying to survive. And they, I'm not saying that's a good thing because they're at the expense of their people that they're supposed to have some concept of noblesa bleche over. I mean, it's all we've basically become Israel. Our foreign policy is run like Israel. Our domestic policy is run by Israel. If somebody's speaking out against a regime, do whatever you want to them. Yeah, I mean, so.

Shoot them in the neck. I mean, that happened. Yeah. I mean, you know, that's. And I don't know what to make it the whole like texts and stuff, but quite clearly, right. the regime at a bare minimum you can say Charlie Kirk was running cover for the regime because he was getting blown out in arguments from people making naturalist talking points because like it just doesn't work right. Gen Z they're never going to be able to buy a house. So you can't the open borders thing doesn't work.

So you know, Israel gets like a fascist at their stay with a wall and, you know, we can't have border control in our country. we can't have domestic industry in our country you know Israel gets everything and you know on the left right you know you've talked about it extensively Pete right that the whole people without a land for land without a piece or you know whatever that phrase

you know there were civilized like villages and towns and cities there all over the place and the same Jews it would say oh well we have to come here and civilize a place when white people came to Australia or Southern Africa or New Zealand or North America where the Americas and found like, you know, Stone Age cannibals like murdering each other.

Like, oh, your presence is illegitimate, right? But these Jews going back to this place that already had people that's sacred. So, I mean, there's just no, there's no, the contradictions cannot hold anymore. would be my like why isn't venezuela prosperous look well the united states is you know screwed with it for what 30 years jose i mean what what percentage of been of venezuela's middle class is in the united states now 20 percent 50 percent 30 percent i mean yeah i mean there's a huge like you had a certain neighborhoods in houston man and like it's there's a bunch of iberian guys from venezuela that's that's you know that's who's there because they've been driven out

by American policy. Yes. It's a massive brain drain. It's one of the main reasons why. It's actually ironic, too, because I tell people that if you actually wanted to see a change in, like, the government

in Venezuela, all the people that are capable of potentially doing that, they're either like in the United States, Panama, Colombia, or like Spain, or to a lesser extent, Italy, they're all gone. And, yeah,

It's just going to only further entrench it. And honestly, if this whole regime change thing gets bungled, they're just going to guarantee Maduro and Chavismo being there from life. That's just the cold heart truth of the matter. You know, I guess jumping into this is a great place to jump into what I wanted to, you know, ask and the question I had is, have we all bought into Tika and Olom? when we say, oh, the people who are still want to keep this regime like going, who don't want to see it destroyed, you know, this managerial regime,

which basically allows small tight-knit groups that are well-funded and well, and have a lot of influence to keep going and to take over and to implement. and to impose what they want to impose upon them. And if we're like, you know, promoting the Monroe Doctrine now that, well, you know, we just have to, we have to take care of our, our section of the world right now. I mean, is that just Tican Olam on just a, and your area of the world? Or we, what are we doing? I mean, how, you know, why are we healing the world instead of like,

healing ourselves and our people. How is like trying to perpetuate this regime and, you know, I mean, I can understand getting your friends elected so that they can run cover for you. But, you know, I know people who are like, you know, oh, we need to run, we, you know, we need to take over the whole government so we can, no, that's not, that's not how this works. It's like, if you haven't figured it out, it's corrupt to the core. there's really nothing you can do about it. So I'm like looking at it.

I'm like, well, I mean, if you're, if you're looking for anything other than like regionalism and localism and federalism and nullification and things like that, how is that any different than Ticanola? ESB transformed how the country powered itself once. And now we're doing it again. Working with businesses all across Ireland, helping them reduce their energy costs, reach their sustainability goals, and future-proof their operations. Because this is not just for us,

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Trading as Cooper Financial Services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Did I break everyone's brain or did I sound retarded? Go ahead. Charles. I don't think, okay, let's make sure we're on the same page here. As far as I understand it, Tikaam-O-Wam is the Jewish idea of spreading light to the world, their particular light and illuminating everybody else. Am I incorrect or correct roughly on that?

Obviously, I'm trying to boil down a major concept into something minor. Is that correct? Is that incorrect? Yeah, they need to remake the world in their image, how they see that they, how they see the world would prosper best for the, for quote, unquote, the world, but really for themselves. Okay, right. Well, I don't, I don't necessarily see what I think is happening here, and I'll try and take a moment, step back, take a deep breath and move forward from there. what I see happening is what I have seen happen for at least since the since the end of the Second World War. What the regime has done or what our occupying government have done is take

American values from colonial times and put their spin on them. And the horror of it is because our founding fathers were more deist. And one could argue even Gnostic in a way, considering Benjamin Franklin was part of the Hellfire Club. And a lot of others had intriguing ideas of an occult nature. What the Jews did was they managed to spot a couple of the similarities. And they do what they always do, which is twist things just enough in their direction. And then as anybody knows who's gone boating or sailing or anything like that, you'll notice that if you're you just, you know, move the rudder a couple degrees, after a long enough trip, you are nowhere

near where you wanted to be. You only have to alter your course ever so slightly, and you are nowhere near where you wanted to be. So to try and tie things up, as I'm often want to do, I would say that it's not so much that we started out trying to be that way. I don't think we ever really did. We're not trying to change the world to our view, or Americans weren't, Because if you look historically, I believe Jose N.D. will back me up. And I'm sure you already know this from your conversations with Thomas 777 and your own research. America has always been very isolationist. If you actually look, like most people didn't want to be in the first World War, most people didn't want to be in the second World War.

I still remember, I believe I've quoted on this program many times. My grandfather on my father's side said to his children, my dad and his brothers and sisters, Why are we fighting Germany? They didn't bomb us. Americans have largely, by and large, been isolationist. I think what we have done is we have tried to carve out a piece of the world and make it our own. And I don't think that's the same as TECOM Olam. We're not, we aren't necessarily trying to Americans.

And we could say the Spanish did this when they tried to spread Catholicism. But again, I don't know that that's quite the same thing. But let's just stick on topic with Americans. I think it's more we have been self-exiles that have tried to carve out their own little world, their own way of doing things. And once we get there, we're really not concerned about everybody else. I mean, I'll speak from myself out here in Oklahoma. The prevailing attitude is my neighbor can do what he wants.

As long as he keeps his radio down, as long as he keeps his animals off my property, I really don't care what he does. So I'm not, I don't really see us as spreading it. cultural, I mean, as far as heritage Americans go, I don't see that taint really in there. But what I do see is the constant exposure to that influence, a Judaic influence, among the upper echelons that has just bled through, oftentimes literally, into our ruling elite. Because it, again, it does what I said it did earlier. It takes what we have already and what we are already and it twists it and it turns it and it perverts it

quite literally in more than a few ways and then it amplifies it. So it takes these are if it takes our quote unquote elite, our quote unquote experts and it and it just huffs them up. It pumps them up. It takes our already feminist turned country, which again, we know who is behind feminism. But again, people already puffed up on those things and it further inflates them. See, you're smart. You're powerful. You're a boss.

So you need to tell everybody else how to live. And that just joins hand in hand with our boss girl society. Like, okay, well, you know what you, you know better than everybody else. And again, you're talking, I'm kind of trying to bring a lot of threads together here. You're also bringing that spiritual femininity into it where everybody else is a child and you're scolding them. And you know better. You have to lead the way. You have to nurture them.

They couldn't make it on their own. So to bring it all back to the main question that you ask, I don't think it's so much that Americans are practicing T. Tom Olam, although I would agree with you in a larger sense that most people now are, whether they realize it or not, slowly becoming spiritually Judaic. But I think it's more that they have slowly bled through with their influence and that they have taken a lot of our original ideas dating back from the foundation of this country and slightly after

and just twisted them and perverted them and just turned us all off a few degrees, of course, a few degrees, and now we've gotten where we ended up. I mean, I still remember, and I'll drop, I'll give up somebody else the floor here in a moment. I still recall getting into an argument on Twitter, which I very, very rarely do. I find it to be a complete waste of time for me personally. with somebody of a libertarian bent, it was almost 10 years ago now, talking about how,

oh, the government should be allowed to take your money through an inheritance tax. You didn't earn it. And I just had to point out to him. I was like, you understand that's literally a communist plank, right? And I send him a link to Marxist.

Marxist.org. It's like, that's literally a communist plank to get rid of inheritance tax. And it was probably one of the only really solid argument engagements I ever had because he actually read it and wrote back. It was like,

wow, I really need to rethink my position. I said, I'm glad you did. Have a good day. And that proves my point in one, well, it's circumstantial evidence on what I'm saying, is that a lot of our ideas of doing our thing, being independent, taking our destiny in our hands is easily twisted to we have to fix the rest of the world because we know better than you. So that's what I have to say on that topic.

there's some nuggets of truth that Charles dropped there that I agree with in regards to the prevailing non-interventionist isolationist tendencies in the US I mean you can find selective and cherry pick quotes from the founding generation and even figures from the early days of the American Republic that could suggest a latent tendency among American political elites that would gravitate towards

phylo-Semitism and even like universalism. But the American Republic, at least until World War II, still had the counter-elite, if you will, that had very restrained tendencies.

For example, you can just look at it this way. Like after the Mexican-American War, There were countless people that wanted full-blown annexations of Mexico and even parts of Latin America. But you had leaders like John Calhoun who said, like, no, we shouldn't be annexing these countries because they're just racially alien. They're going to sully the racial stock of the U.S. And even look at Reconstruction after the Civil War, the failed nation-building project that was attempted to be imposed on the South.

it generally speaking failed there and I think that points to a very strong tendency of non-interventionism among the American public but I think it changed obviously in the 20th century with the influx of Jews and this new elite of Jews that incinuated themselves in the media academia and the governing structures and from that point forward you see policy moving in dramatically anti-European direction in the United States. I think that everyone's made good points. I would just add that, right, this obsession with the neocon obsession with like going and make everywhere like Peoria, right?

Like, oh, well, democracy and all this other stuff. I mean, it's obviously was like self-interested nonsense that they were just lying. or that they're hopelessly stupid or possibly both, like in the case of like John Per dorot's. But one thing that is clear is this whole idea that we can go and make everywhere

like white and northwestern European and Christian is it's non-tenable. It's just, it's crazy. And Tikum Olam, right, is like, we're going to turn everyone into like a willing servant of the Jews, basically.

and um Dennis Prager talked about it recently and I only bring him out because I know you I've discussed him in the past Pete like the fact that Jews have led secularization is like like a sin that we're going to he says that they're all going to answer for it's like well thanks to you right like thanks to your secularization um I'm going to be like on the left as I die like Gen Z men are going to be like you know secular and very very very racist very very sexist

because they have no choice but to be but to be but to be or die right and this whole ticam olam thing is when you you know come down to it um it's just their excuse for them undermining and destroying societies that might pose a threat to them and the difference between say what what you're trying to do with like the old glory club isn't like hey old glory club is going to invade Venezuela or like we're not going to like there's not going to be like an old glory club filibuster to like retake Cuba or something uh because they're too busy like making wherever they are worthwhile and you know, maybe in 100 years or something, you know, whatever. But right now, what we're trying to do is like tender own knitting. And we're not, and we're being told, no, you can't. Yeah.

And that's because we have to go save other people. Like, well, wait, like, I have to pay taxes, like $100 billion. I didn't, like, $100 billion went to, like, medical care for illegals or something. just came out right people people that are here in the country illegally in members of gangs MS-13 chrinda or I go right like they kill people both like they murder people and they kill people by by dealing you know fentanyl poison drugs which all comes from China right oh if we enforce the law against people who like with face tattoos who murder people and worship Satan like then we can't do that like what are you crazy that's nuts that's that's that's like you

literally can't have a country. You can't have a civilization when there are, you know, mouthy women like trying to block police in the street. Because, like, somehow the life of, of, like, face tattoo guy is more important than, like, the kid down the street. ESB transformed how the country powered itself once. And now we're doing it again. Working with businesses all across Ireland, helping them reduce their energy costs, reach their sustainability goals, and future-proof their operations. Because this is not just for us, it's for future us. To find out more, contact our Smart Energy Services team at ESB.aE forward slash smart energy. Ready for huge savings?

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Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. Trading as Cooper Financial Services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. And I want to take one of your points, D, because you exactly sum up what I was trying to say. When you bring up the old glory club, I think that's a perfect example. Like, I was honored to be contacted by the local branch here in Oklahoma. And it was very kind of them to reach out to me. But I think therein lies the crucial point. Like, they don't just, they're not putting TikTok videos out for you.

They're not trying to get your kids to join. Like that's what TICOM OLAM is. Hey, trans yourself. Hey, you know, follow Black Lives Matter. Hey, do all this. Do what I'm doing. I'm telling you to do it. No, they scope people out. They try and find people that already agree with them, that already live like them or that want to. And then they give them that opportunity. They're not going into neighborhoods and telling and handing out, you know, heroin needles and condoms and stuff. Hey, live my job. degenerate lifestyle. I think therein lies the key difference. And therein lies, the proof is in the pudding, as they say, of my point, and that the Old Glory Club, more or less, to my experience, my very limited experience, am I claiming I'm any kind of expert on them whatsoever. I'm just saying, to my experience, they have been very close-knit, although they have been very welcoming. They are not proselytizing in any type of sense that even vaguely mirrors the regime. The regime is doing every to get you to live like they want you to live, to get you to like the things they like and dislike the things they don't.

Whereas organizations like the old glory club, I presume they reached out and contacted me because they said, hey, while this guy may not agree with everything we say, we don't agree with everything he says, we're largely on the same page. We might want to talk to this guy. We might want to consider him for membership. And again, I was honored to be that way, but it wasn't like they just plastered themselves on every house on my block. So therein, I think, lies the key difference is that our guys are generally not proselytizers. What they are is noticers.

What they are is guys that point out, hey, I see X. Do you see X? Now, whether X is per capita or whether X is who gets all of the. our foreign aid or who is starting feminism, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We can pick any topic you want. But they aren't necessarily saying, hey, come join my club. Hey, subscribe to my newsletter. Not necessarily, not in any grand scheme. However, TikTok is rife with things like trans, Black Lives Matter, not so much anymore, I understand, but gay pride, all sorts of stuff. So that's where I would put it, without belaboring the point any further. One is far more a

prolestitizer and the other is far more a self-exile trying to survive. So the regime, for lack of a better term, wants Maine and California and Florida and Washington to all look the same. And the old Gorickup guys are like, why should Maine and Florida be the same? That's insane. Right. Right. The regime brings Somalis into Maine and everyone in the world into Southern Florida.

And then, you know, like, well, why doesn't everywhere in the world look like Southern Florida? Well, I don't know, because Southern Florida is like where everyone with money in the Caribbean goes. I mean, right, they're going to be these places that are anthropo-type diverse places. But according to the regime, like, it's not. acceptable that like rural Kansas be white. They have to like well, you know, there need to be Chinese people and black people and Hispanic people and Micronesians and Filipinos and Filipinos and Eskimos in Kansas.

Otherwise the people in Kansas haven't like had their life improved enough. Right. Like yeah, exactly. That's that's exactly it's like because they're they are bringing their light. And the irony is. it's not a candle, it's a flame thrower. And the irony is they're not bringing light to anything. They're burning everything down.

That's the bitter irony of it. Now, maybe they're doing that intentionally, or maybe it's just the way they are because of psychopathy, but they are what they are. And that's the bitter irony to me is, as you point out, D, like, they're not bringing light. They're burning everything to the ground. And that's what drives me mad. And just one last point on my, I don't think Heritage Americans and

rank and file Americans are in on the Ticam Olam thing. And I'll say this. I can't use his name, but I have a buddy that has spent his lifetime in the military. And he's now a pretty reasonably high up guy of the DOD. And he says back in his day when he was in boot camp and going through all the army and all this stuff, and he used to say that they're saying was whenever they were picking a fight with yet another country and say, we're going to freedom the shit out of them.

And they all laugh together. Because they knew, you know, whether they knew consciously or subconsciously. They knew what the score was. They weren't bringing light to anything. They weren't giving anybody the American way of life. They were bombing the shit out of them and taking their stuff. And they knew it. And they didn't want to do it.

But, I mean, they signed up. That's part of the horror of what they got told to do. But yeah, that phrase has always stayed with me. And I think it's very apt in this conversation. Yeah, we're going to freedom the shit out of them. So I'll stop so I don't belabor it any further. Yeah, I think just the point that I was trying to make is that the regime in charge has a goal. And when it comes to foreign policy, their goal has a tendency to look a whole lot like Tikon Olam.

And when you look at this regime and when you look at the government, when you look at the government, you look at managerialism in general, I mean, it's had 100 years to cement itself. There's only one way to basically stop being a manager regime at this point. And it's not by dismantling it a little bit here and a little bit there. It needs to be completely destroyed. And it needs to be destroyed by a strongman. And I think that there are, you know, I say this all the time. I think in our future, there is right-wing or left-wing authoritarianism. And even with left-wing authoritarianism, the left-wing authoritarian who would come, would think that the managerial, in my opinion, would think that the managerial regime

is holding them back from what they want to accomplish. So either way, I think it's going to be destroyed. You know, it's just a matter of now if it's going to be left or right-wing authoritarianism. I listen to people who say it's definitely going to be come from the left. And I hear people who say it's definitely going to come from the right. I don't know which one it's going to be. I know which one I prefer. You know, I prefer right.

I'll prepare for left. But I guess my biggest thing is I see like trying to fix it as trying to fix this, this government, the way it runs right now in any other way than absolutely tearing it out limb by limb and root by root and putting something else in there and basically hoping that somebody friendly to you gets in there is you're just perpetuating this. You're perpetuating it forever. And I see it as a way of, until you destroy it completely, this power source, these people who have been, Ben had so much influence over it and can, you know, have insane influence over it right now, although I think, I think it is waning as more people and more elites wake up to it.

The Zionist Jewish supremacist influence thrives in the regime the way it's, the way it's constructed right now. And it can't be fixed by keeping it in the way it is right. now. You're not going to take over it and use it against your enemies. It needs to be completely destroyed. If you want to destroy your enemies, you're going to have to destroy that. And I don't think I'm wrong. Maybe somebody can argue and say that I'm wrong. I don't see me being wrong. And I've been looking at this now for years. I think, unfortunately, you're right. And here's why. Think of all the procedural outcomes that you deal with the civil rights regime. right where there is no

structurally speaking there is no way to make you know civil rights for white people because the very definition of civil rights is like the more you know whatever the more non-straight white Christian male you are the more you get to reach in that guy's wallet and take his stuff because reasons right that's that's the net result of the civil rights regime

is and then whatever supposed it attended effects, right? The purpose system is what it does. And there's no taking this system and like turning it towards good ends because, and E. Michael Jones has talked about this, but the reason the pro-life movement failed and failed and failed and failed is because they were treating a civil rights regime like it was a thing

where it was about rights for people. And so all of these, you know, mostly white Christian people, more women than men, but right, They were always complaining about the oppressions. Who's being oppressed here? Well, they're killing babies. Well, yeah, they are killing babies.

It's awful. It's murder. It's terrible. It's a sacrifice to Satan. But you are trying to use the framework set up specifically to disempower you to get something done. And, like, no, the whole point of the system is to take away your political agency. Like Thomas says, right? After 1948, it was illegal to be right-wing.

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he's not talking about laws that were made. He's talking about the spirit of the age. He's talking about something that has to be changed, not at the legal level. But at a fundamental level, I've also said this. Yeah, I've said this before is, you know, all these people, oh, United States has to become 110, 110, 110, you get rid of all of them, and you're still going to be a Jewish country because your attitude,

the attitude about money and usury is, was still influenced by them. Are you going to get rid of Hollywood? Is pornography going away? I mean, basically a culture has been created that is antithetical to white European Christianity. And most of Christianity, most of American Christianity has embraced it and actually sees it as freedom and liberty. And how many times have you seen some quote unquote right winger go, well, you know, Israel is, Think about it. Israel is the only country in that region that has gay marriage, you know, that has gay marriage, has gay rights.

Is that, yeah, with that Peter Parker, I was already against it. You didn't need to try and sell me right. And this is, this is why, you know, we can't use the present system, right? the Tickham-Olem system, the Zog regime, the Nuremberg regime, whatever you want to call it, right? The point is to promote, like, trainees reading in libraries.

Black, satanic trainees, reading to white children in a library in Peoria, Illinois. Like, that's the point of the system. So you can't be like, well, we can turn this to something good. Like, no, no, you can't. Like, the fact that it, Tel Aviv is the GAC on earth and it's undermined Israel is kind of an accident.

They bought their own premises. Yeah. Go ahead, Charles, please. I'm just going to say, I think it's interesting, Pete, that that's, you said a lot of what I said earlier. So it seems we're in a pretty solid agreement. That's what I was saying is that we are, that we have been perverted. A lot of these ideas have been, have infected us. And then they've twisted what we already believed, as you say, they interpret all these

things now suddenly is freedom. And I say, well, hold on a second. You know, that's not exactly where we started from or where we, where we were intending to go. But I do agree that that's exactly where we've ended up. And I posit it's for the reasons that I said that we ended up there because our original ideas were corrupted and not to say that we aren't partly responsible for that, for falling to the corruption.

But I do think it's interesting that we're largely in agreement in that sense. I also agree with Thomas 777, when he says it's illegal to be right wing in the sense that it's more of a societal, social, illegality than it is a fundamental governmental illegality, although we could argue that there is a fair amount of that. But it's far more deleterious than that because it is, as you say, at a social level. A lot of these ideas are just completely taboo. I still remember in 2016 when I was picking up a gal I was dating at the law, worked at the library near. me. I'm scrolling through my phone and one of her coworkers comes up to me and she says, oh, are you, or he says, are you following Trump on Twitter? And I just looked at him and I went, nah, he's two, he's two left wing for me. And I thought the guy was going to just fall over dead in

front of me, like just absolute shock that not only would somebody, you know, admit to anything even close to looking at Trump, but saying that going one step further and saying that he was two left wing. So again, I see your point. And I do kind of code. sign that as far as the illegality of the right wing. And I just wanted to bring attention to the fact that we were largely saying the same thing, that the influences have bled down and twisted us into something that we should not be and that is in fact antithetical to the ways of the life of our ancestors. Well, and it's not something we should want to spread to the rest of the world. Agreed. I mean, we're, it's spiritual a case. And in most, and in a lot of cases, literally.

But yeah, this is not something, I mean, do we want like every government in Europe, in the white world to like have a government like ours that operates like ours? I mean, it's already terrible over there. We don't want our government to operate like ours. Yeah. So it's like what are we trying to, what are we trying to protect here? like, I mean, I know, you know, we have guys on our side who are working in the government right now. And, I mean, I know a bunch of guys who have been hired by ICE and, you know, border patrol. And I'm just waiting for the reports to see just exactly what they aren't allowed to do.

Because, I mean, I'm not buying. I can't buy into this whole thing about how, well, we're going to get. we're going to clear it out. You know, with the 80 million people who don't belong here or the 50 million people who don't belong here, they're gone. They're gone. I mean, they can't get rid of a sitting politician who celebrates the death of like a friend of the president and openly says, I don't care about America.

I'm here to protect Somali people. I'm here to serve Somali people. I mean, plug that person into, first of all, that person's not getting elected to any, any government 100, 100 years ago. Any white government 100 years ago. But if they did, how long are they going to last?

When did we become, when does it become, oh, we, not only do we have to be, not only do we have to be kind and be tolerant towards the stranger within our border, but we have to be kind and tolerant towards a stranger in our border who gets positions of power and then goes to war with the people who've been here, you know, two, three, four hundred years longer than her on behalf of people who got here through some kind of loophole because, You know, we have people who've been elected, gotten positions of power over the last hundred years that absolutely hate us and just want to destroy us. What exactly are we trying to preserve?

How do you think you change that other than by absolutely crushing the whole system into dust and starting over again? Sorry, you're not going to convince me. well I mean when you first you know get into like the Cato Institute right oh Cato the great Roman center like no Rome by the time of the seizures was a corrupt oligarchy and someone needed to come in and just like nope

we're not doing this anymore you know um I think you've talked about it Pete but there's you know the catastrophists and and uh in Spain right there were the the conservatives who were like oh well it's just uh you know we we can fix the system

and then there were people like, no, we need to crush everything. Like obviously, the catastrophists were right in Spain. And similarly today, right? Like, there's no. Leticia James is a lying criminal who never should have been let anywhere near any kind of power in any capacity whatsoever. And yeah, she might do some jail time for her mortgage fraud. but is that going to bring VEDAIR back?

Is that going to bring all the people that she harassed? What about the National Life Association? They were harassed. Like, are those people going to be made whole by the state of New York's office? The state of New York doesn't have any money. How can they make people whole? You know, I could burn your house down and be like, I'm really sorry. Here's all the ashes, I guess.

Is that like, well, technically you gave me my house back, but it's not any. anymore, right? He burned it down. It's all ash. So, you know, the people who are busily burning down our civilization, like, they need to be stopped. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. your say online or in person so together we can create a more reliable sustainable electricity

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Okay, so you're the cool guy who got out of it by the end of the college. Okay, good. Busting you're nuts. You know, I could be the libertarian who's like, oh, well, just end the state, bro. Well, here's a problem with the libertarian idea is. Libertarians like, oh, just end the state. And then everyone is automatically going to adopt my, you know, everyone's, going to want to be an anarcho-capitalist.

Even though you haven't built anything, you haven't built a system where to show it works anywhere, anything like that, or even small government. I think I'm very realistic because this is going to be torn down one way or another. I mean, this is literally heading to

not a mass continental-wide mass civil war, but we are headed to like the years of lead or like pockets of the Spanish Civil War. And for people who don't think that, I mean, I don't think it's blackpilling to say that. I think it's just a reality of knowing history. And sure, I want, I think things are going to get better. I know things are going to get better. But how? You can make things better for yourself individually. There are still. ways you can, you know, beat this system individually or organize with people on the local level,

people, you know, even statewide, who agree with you. And you can come up with plans to protect yourself from, you know, encroaching government. But this is going to be torn down one way or another. Either one man is going to do it, and that's going to cause people to rise up and be violent and he's going to have to crush that whether right or left and as a matter of fact i would say if it's a left-wing caesar the right will not rise up because they don't do that the spanish did it but yeah well the problem with conservatives i mean i'm on the many but the main problem with conservatives is they trust the institutions despite the fact that the institution was hollowed out and is being worn like a skin suit by evil people

right there there are conservatives who will still defend the boy scouts right now i was like well bait and palo though and it's like but now when you know 30 years ago like you weren't allowed in the boys gots if you were gay and now being gay is mandatory right like well i don't know what to tell you other than you're going to do as our lord said shake the dust from your feet and get out of there but far too often right you know conservatives will we'll sit there and be like well I guess you know but and it's it's a temperament thing right they need the state to be the one to legitimize their violence otherwise they won't do it well also they're trained to accept a left a left wing dictator and to attack a right wing dictator I mean oh yeah yeah yeah the soviet union

was terrible but we definitely had to side with them in world war two and you used you make arguments against it and you show easily how the United States could have sided with Germany and like the destruction of Europe and the European peoples could have been avoided. And it's cognitive dissonance. They won't hear that they won't hear that alternate timeline because they've already been sold something. We punch right and we we reach out to the left and we punch right. So if it is a right-wing dictator that comes along, you may have right-wing, you may have, quote, unquote, right-wing, or people who are still holding onto classical liberalism or conservatism still calling themselves right-wing while being left-wing, but they'll be fighting against it. They'll fight alongside the leftists that are rising up.

But if it's a left-wing dictator, they'll try to make peace with them. Yeah, because it's just fundamentally don't understand what time it is. They don't understand human nature. Yeah, I mean. They think everyone wants limited government. Everyone wants limited government. And, you know, if we can just, you know, pocket. Well, yeah, this is funny.

It's funny. We need updated versions of the Constitution. We need to send like maybe larger print versions of the Constitution to Liberia, and that'll straighten everything out. Well, it's the six-year presidential term. That's the reason everything falls apart. I have to write the Constitution, like the BBC, write some of its news reports and that, what is that, pigeon? What is it?

Pigeon English. It's funny you mentioned that, Pete, about the, about the everybody who wants limited government after busting my chops about being the one guy in college that got out of libertarianism. Because you guys got out of libertarianism because you guys had the intellectual capacity. You thought it through and you're all like that. I'm not even giving myself that much credit. I got out of it because I didn't live in a nice enough area. It's like, oh, wait, no, not enough people are like me. This isn't going to work.

I just never lived in really good areas to be able to hold on to that luxury belief. I couldn't afford it. I was like, uh-oh, this isn't going to work. So, yeah, it's funny to hear that just get larger print books of this because, yeah, it's not going to work. I also think it's interesting, too, when you talk about these things. far as getting people on board or watching everybody else just punch right, punch right. That's what they always do. Because to me, it seems like it stems from our very founding.

It's like, well, we punched right then. And we're founded literally on the concept of rebellion. We're founded literally on the concept of do our own thing. It's not surprising that we are very, very, very ripe for a left-wing ideology. Like, hey, you just need to do your thing. You need to do things how you want to do it. So, I mean, I would say that it was sort of baked into the cake from the beginning, our ousture of tradition, our ousture of just eons, basically, of hierarchy.

It's like, well, that sort of baked this leftism and liberalism into our particular cake. Now, how do we square that circle? I mean, I guess the best thing you do is, as we said earlier, just try and go back to our ancestors before that, because I, I, I, kind of pull off of both you and D on this one. It's like I don't think going back to our founding fathers is going to solve anything. I think they're part of the problem if I'm being honest in a lot of ways. Unintentionally, certainly, but I think they're, because they couldn't possibly have foreseen what, how far it was going to go.

Because again, they, they suffer from the same issue. It's like they, I don't think they realized that everybody didn't. think like that. Please go ahead. Pete, I don't talk about you. Oh, no, no, you're good. Well, I think a lot of the people who are like, a lot of people will be like, well, you know, we could have the Constitution again if we just had heritage Americans. It's like, which ones? Well, you, and now you're just sound like a libertarian because you think that, oh, if you just have like a society of white people who, can you show me the society of white people that hasn't been completely Judaized, hasn't been completely Judaized for the last hundred years?

years. Well, you think that you can, you get rid of every minority out of this country. And all of a sudden, you institute, we're just going to go by the constitution. And you don't think things are going to fall to shit because people aren't ready for it. There is no going back to anything. If you're going back to anything, you're going back to cultural norms and things like that. You're going back to like a literal constitution, not a piece of paper. You're going back to the constitution of a people, but you also have to understand that the constitution of the people has been under attack for a hundred years through everything from turning on your radio in your car, to turning on your TV, to going to the movies, to going to school.

And people think, oh, well, we just, it's going to be so easy. Well, well, we have to start somewhere. Well, I mean, sure, you have to start somewhere, but do you realize that, I mean, I think everyone on this call is a big fan of Sam Francis. But there's, and there, a lot of the people listening are big fans of Sam Francis. But the most important thing he ever wrote was about the revolution of mass and scale. that you cannot rule over 300 million people, 200 million people, 100 million people. It just doesn't work. It doesn't work, especially when you have, you know, and people could say, oh, well, you know, if we had just heritage Americans doing that, okay, how?

Sure, it's a good place to start. Sure, but it's like, you know, sure, you get rid of the people who are responsible for 60% of the murders. a great start that well you're also talking about in fantasy land now so what do you do it all comes back to it you know when you start nailing down Sam Francis talking about mass and scale how you just cannot have that many people that you know people who want to talk about culture and want to talk about family. And then they want to talk about spreading that out to 100 million people, 150 million people. How does that work?

There's a reason why there was 13 colonies. There's a reason why there were cities that, like, in Maryland that only Catholics lived in. I mean, you're, people aren't thinking this through. They want to go back, but you can't go back. Everything's changed. So you have to figure out something new. And, you know, there's going to be echoes of the past in it, of course. Because, you know, you're going to want to live historically.

But you're just the people who think, oh, if we just go back to the Constitution and there's Heritage Americans and everything will be great. How many daughters of the American Revolution are like shit lib friggin college professors? Yeah, that Elizabeth Warren phenotype is a problem. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in-person.

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Get one gig Sky Broadband, Essential TV and Netflix, all for just 44 euro a month for 12 months, our lowest ever price. subject location new customers only 12 month minimum terms standard pricing thereafter tv and broadband sold separately terms apply for more info c skyd a slash beads it's like come on guys you're you're not thinking this you're you're you're making it too easy you know and i don't have all the answers i'm not gonna sit here and pretend i have all the answers i think i have some damn good questions going forward i think i have you know i think i have some good suggestions i think that i think it's pretty obvious you know what the answer is at least for now what you should be building

and what you should be doing but you know i think it just really goes to show when people fight me so hard on it that they are really stuck in really stuck thinking that if they can just go back and you know well there's no time travel and people have changed and if you believe in like evolutionary psychology like Kevin McDonald talks about people like that and people really do change like they're they're wiring um they're why they can be rewired and that's something you have to deal with as well and you can't deal with that at at a mass scale you have to start you have to start very small feel free to disagree with me anyone well i i think you're running into the problem of scale, right? Effectively, right, the reason for the mid-century regimes of Spain, Italy,

and Germany, right, was the understanding that, like, you're playing at scale and you can't, as much as you might like to be, you know, like a distributist who has your artisanal widgets and your home economics and your village, right, like you're competing against people that will use ruthless scale to destroy you and roll over. you and kill you. So you have to at least fight on the same scale they do. So I can understand why people would want that big scale. Like, it makes sense. I would, I mean, agree with you on, in terms of everything you've said about the scale being a problem and, you know, Heritage Americans, a lot of them being corrupted. And even if, but an old friend of mine used to say the first step is

deceiting in your mind and he was a southern nationalist so i mean that's where he was coming from but the the important thing that important first step is like is is fixing yourself i would say and you know read listen to stuff like this listen to you know pete sears dr johnson or just you know the complete marie samuel you gentiles read that he just finished um you know understanding your own people and understanding where where people are coming from. And I'm too frequently, you know, I get very impatient with people. So I'll be dealing with some normies and I'm like, well, what do you think of so and so? And like, oh, I don't particularly like that person.

And for this sort of things Charles said of like, no, like they're too milk toast. And they'll kind of be shocked and like, oh, I didn't, I didn't know that there was a further right. And this is, well, yeah. Yeah, there is. Well, you know, welcome to the party, I guess. But what that the difficulty is, is that how do you bring people along without, like, losing patients and offending people? And, like, that would be the thing that I think that we need to do.

Because obviously, everything isn't working. Stuff isn't working. You know, there's crazy people everywhere. There's drugs and crime and foreigners and. people aren't forming families and you know like take take take take your pick and there's a problem so uh how you persuade people i i think that that's the most important thing we can do right now is this sort of thing anyone else we're uh we're coming up on time pretty quickly so if anyone has any if anyone has any things they want to say please go right ahead yeah yeah i think we we should

should always be willing to ask uncomfortable questions and reassess conventional wisdom with regards to the American political project and look for any flaws that could have led to the present situation and also be willing to think and act on our feet with respect to building new solutions because sometimes you have to clear out the deadwood if you want to move forward and you can't stick to failed strategies or strategies that are simply out of date to the problems we're facing because they're quite unique in nature and they're actually existential at this point but it's always good to hash out disagreements and bring up new ideas and also challenge the prevailing orthodoxy because we're in this situation for a reason we just have to figure out

what has brought us here. Charles? Yeah, anything? Just a couple of very brief points to wrap it up for me. I want to step back to something you said, where people talk about, well, just heritage Americans will make everything better again.

And while that will certainly improve it, I think D and I are very much on the same page there. I'm sure you and I are too with that. I would just simply say, did we forget the civil war happened? I mean, wasn't that largely heritage Americans? I mean,

we imported a lot of Irish. the North did to fight for them, but largely we still had a civil war when we were all much more similar than we are today, I would argue. And I would also point out that the reason we are the United States of America and not just America is because the whole point was we wanted to get together for mutual protection and trade, but all still have our own particular way of life. As you pointed out accurately, Pete, 13 colonies for a reason. New Jersey wanted to live like New Jersey, Delaware wanted to live like Delaware, et cetera, et cetera. So we were never as whole and as shared as many commonalities as we like to pretend we did. What we managed to do was understand that there were differences and then just managed to maintain a certain friendliness or a certain warmth or strengthened the few commonalities we did

have. And again, I think that's why this Judaic influence has been so destructive because they're far more, they're less high trust. They're far more psychopathic in that sense. You said earlier, Pete, and I'll use this to wrap it up. The easiest way to trade with people is be friendly with them, but certain people on this planet don't know how to be friendly. They know how to manipulate. They know how to twist. They know how to, you know, shuck and jive and trick and do all that. But they don't really know how to just be friendly. And therein lies a tremendous difference that I don't know that really can be overcome. So that's, that's it for me today. I'll wrap up with anything, Dave. Now just support the people to support you. I mean, Jose Substack is fantastic. Read his

articles at the Oxygen, an old observer and support Pete's substack and read Charles's books, man. It's, you know, you're not going to win this being ignorant. And, you know, you know, support people that don't lie to you. I appreciate it, gentlemen. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. That's great. I appreciate a gentleman.

And once again, thank you. And until the next time, I appreciate y'all.