The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1282: Charlie Kirk and 'The Cabal' w/ Aaron from Timeline Earth

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

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I want to welcome, everyone. Back to the Pekignanash. show Aaron's back. Hey, Aaron, what's going on? How's it going? Good. Good. I've been hearing you a lot on shows lately. Oh, that's right. No, I haven't heard you at all. Yeah, if you did, you'd hear a screeching baby in the background.

Well, I don't mind that. That's actually pretty cool to me. Yeah, it's been a while. And I don't even remember the last thing we talked about. So you probably do. You have a much better memory than I. do when it comes to stuff like that. Oh, my God. Not right now. I don't. I've been in baby mode for a little over a month now.

Well, congratulations, man. It's good to hear. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So once upon a time, you and I read an article by a guy named Loring Gigno called Israel, the Psychopathic Nation.

And that was a, That was fun. So about a week ago, he put out another article, and Unz.com picked it up and or he wrote it from Unz.com. I don't know how that works called the public execution of Charlie Kirk. And without like, you know, going into the whole conspiracy around everything, I mean, I watched a Chris Martinson video. this morning. It was like an hour and five minutes about how there's no way the bullet could

have came from that building. It came from and I'm just like, I mean, I know there are people who live for that stuff. I just don't. Yeah. When that first happened, I have two younger brothers. One of them's 24, one of them's 26. And I've never been a huge Charlie Kirk fan, probably for the same reason you haven't been a huge Charlie Kirk fan, but they called me immediately and they were, they were emotional. They were not, not happy about this. And maybe it's just a generational gap, but, you know, I told them it's going to be something to do with a tranny, something to do with a tranny. And at first I thought I was right, but as as time goes on, there's just, much circumstantial evidence so much just an implausible amount of circumstantial evidence uh pointing in the

direction that we're about to talk about yeah yeah and even if i didn't want to i don't even know that i want to make this about it being in another direction but you know one of the big reveals to me and this is it's like oh this is a conspiracy well yeah it's a conspiracy it's absolutely a conspiracy and like it's the group chat got frigging leaked proving it was a conspiracy and you know I guess where where everything starts where you know without getting into ballistics kinetic energy and exit wounds and things like that you know a lot of people know that you know Charlie was questioning what Israel was doing and he was, you know, he had recently refused to take money. Now, I'm not willing to go as far to say that, you know, he had changed his mind about Israel and he

wasn't an employer of Israel anymore. That's just not what, that's not what it is. And I don't expect, you know, I'm not one of those people who expects most people to, like, not become supporters of Israel. I think that there are people, I think a large section of the population is becoming that way. But I don't expect like people who are influencers and people who have to and are forced

to interact with Jewish people on a daily basis, taking money from, whether it's taking money from them or just working around them, having to be around them to take a public stance on this. And he didn't. No, it's

not even a public stance. It's just it was opening the floor up to the question. And that was not palatable and still isn't palatable to this day. And apparently what Charlie was basically telling them was, look, and I think he said this to Netanyahu specifically that you can't keep doing this. You can't keep. I mean, we're basically at the point that every, we're supposed to be.

believe that however many tens of thousands of people died in Gaza, every one of them was either Hamas or a Hamas supporter or Hamas was hiding behind them. Yeah, it's, well, that's to be expected. That's been their, that's been the go-to that's worked for them for decades. They can justify any atrocity they want. And, you know, as a millennial, I was pretty apathetic to the whole thing. And apathy suits everybody just fine. But being apathetic to the existence of the state of Israel is not acceptable.

And we're learning that the hard way. And as this article gets at, Charlie Kirk learned that the hard way, that entertaining apathy is not an option. It is not within the Overton window. they're from what i've seen the most rabid zionists out there and you know the people who basically wouldn't even talk about their jewish background before october seventh but got activated by october seventh they either want you to be 100 percent on their side or they're very happy for you to be 100 percent against them but like you said, the apathy, they have no time for that. And that really pisses them off.

Well, they're starting to pivot towards apathy. These people are very innovative, I want to say. They see the writing on the wall. They see the attitudes that the younger generations are coming into political awareness with. And now you're starting to see this acceptance of, well, who cares about Israel? anyways. And that's being filtered through their, their major, I guess they're, their remaining influencers right now. Like apathy is starting to be the next best thing to complete acceptance. All right. So what we found out, and they immediately called this like a lie, that Charlie was

summoned to Long Island, imagine that he was. I'm in the Long Island. I am completely shocked to meet with a group. And Mr. Gigno calls that a cabal. And he says here in the article, let's first get acquainted with the Jewish cabal that is now the target of much suspicion. And when he says suspicion, he's talking about in the assassination. So like I said, I don't know how much we're going to get into that.

Because I really haven't touched that yet because, you know, it's one of those things whenever something like this happens and they just slam the door shut on it, immediately start cleaning up the crime scene, taint the crime scene, and don't release any information about it. Don't talk about, I want to know, like, what was the, what was the grain, what was the grain weight of the bullet? I want to know what brand it was that was shot. Was it, you know, was it Serp, military surplus?

Did he buy it at Walmart? You know, as a kind of stuff, I want to know, and apparently we're never going to know this. So, and maybe I'll talk about why my biggest thing that leads me to believe, it's really hard to believe the, the official narrative, and it has nothing to do with a 200-yard shot or anything like that. It's something that I learned a little later than that. So this Jewish cabal. So the people who met who did an intervention with Charlie was the first one, Bill Akman, American hedge fund manager

worth $9.4 billion, unconditional support of Israel's genocide and Gaza, an important contributor to turning point USA for about a year. What I will say is, I think that Tucker is doing really good work in that Tucker just for like two minutes on one of his streams says, who is Bill Ackman and why does he have $9 billion? What is he done? What is he smart at? And then what you never do is what Bill Ackman did. he went on Twitter and had a friggin crash out explaining how how special he what a special boy he is that caused him to make this $9.4 billion that like anyone who looks into Bill Ackman is like this isn't even his money. This is money that he's just managing for somebody gave him this money so that he could put it towards their interests. And so it doesn't have to come from them. It's just he's just, he's just,

another cutout in this game yeah basically so on august fourth and fifth Tucker hacked that kind of person's mindset questioning their competency how dare you oh Tucker has their number i mean like Tucker will say something about net and yahoo and then net and yahoo like you know spins up the freaking webcam and does a video you know and does streams about how he didn't kill charlie kirk Yeah, Tucker hasn't been out of the Murdoch sphere for that long. He still knows all these people. He still went to dinner with all these people. You catch them in the corner of your eye.

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Kirk was strongly reprimanded for giving a platform. to Carlson in July and submitted to what he experienced as threats and blackmail over his recent public critics of critiques of Israel's influence in America. Benjamin and Yahoo invited himself in that meeting by phone. So yeah, it was not only Tucker, not only inviting Tucker Carlson, but having Dave Smith on the stage was another thing that pissed them off. Yeah. Because, you know, Tucker Carlson's just a stupid goy, but you know, Dave being 86% of, Ghanazi they can't have you know they hate that even more yep yeah got to get Charlie back on the reservation and you know taking away the funding for his

life's work is a good way to do that but what happens when that doesn't work yeah well we can keep answering that we can keep asking that question all right second person Josh Hammer speaking of Dave Smith he is the one that he debated Hammer at this at the TPUSA event and prove that he's an insane psychopath. But so, Hammer is a little background to that debate. So I just recently watched Dave Smith,

uh, interview with Nick Fuentes and Dave was telling a story about how before that debate, they were all in the back room, eating snacks and shooting the shit. And, uh, Josh Hammer came off as a very genuine, nice,

nice guy. And then, uh, once they got out to the stage, uh, Josh Hammer's opening state, was something to the effect of, and it disgusts me that I'm on the same stage as this vile person. So that's the type of person we're dealing with, just a complete bug man.

Well, it's either that or, I mean, he is just, it's an act. I mean. What, the genuineness in the backroom or? I think all of it. When I watch a Josh Hammer talk, I don't see anything. I don't see anything behind his eyes. Pantamiming being a human. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know.

So Josh Hammer is a Jewish political commentator, senior editor at large of Newsweek, who defines himself as a full advocate for the Jewish people and for the Jewish state of Israel, and a believer that Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA. We talked about that when we read Gino's Israel, the Psychopathic Nation, how I think it was Leo Pinsker said that anti-Semitism was hereditary disease and incurable. And Chris Martinson made a really good point when Josh Hammer tweeted that out. There's a screenshot of the tweet up here. I am Jewish. Oh, he says Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA.

and Chris Martinson said, you know, that which usually gets encoded into the DNA of a people is a survival mechanism. So what are you trying to tell us, Josh? Your terms are acceptable. Hammer is author of a book claiming that Western civilization was founded by Moses at Mount Sinai. Hammer was there the whole time, his words during the hand. Hampton's meeting on the day before Kirk's public execution, Hammer retweeted approvingly a 12-year-old tweet by Trump mentioning, quote, public execution for all to see. Three hours after Kirk's death, he again cryptically tweeted public execution, which is up here. So, yeah. He retweeted

Trump saying on April, tweeting on April 19th, 2013, Trump said, should be public execution. for all to see, you will end this bullshit fast. I don't know what Trump was referring to. I could look it up, but I'm going to do it right now. And Josh Hammer re-tweeted that this is the day before Kirk was assassinated. It said, based. And the day a couple hours after Charlie Kirk was shot, he tweeted out public execution. So it's just adding to the mountain of circumstantial evidence.

Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Next person is Rabbi Pesak Waliki. American, no, stop. Okay, it says American Israeli citizen. Israeli citizen who lives in Israel, who presents himself as Charlie Kirk's regular advisor on Israel issues.

The night before Kirk's assassination, he had a one-hour Zoom conversation with him to practice his pro-Israel talking points. Josh Hammer was in the conversation. Well, he later reported that Kirk was in a combative mood and playing the devil's advocate. I guess when you get told no, that could be construed as a combative mood. Why are you telling me no? Well, I mean, I guess after somebody is assassinated, someone's assassinated the day after you have a Zoom call in which they're combative, any arguments that they were making against your position, it helps you to say that they were

playing devil's advocate because you don't want them to think that they were seriously being combative with you and arguing with you and maybe disagreeing with you? Yeah, it serves as a very nice message for the people that are willing to to dig a little deeper. Next up, Robert Schillman. I love it. American. No, he's not.

businessman and political financier who is invested in several right-wing political activists, such as Laura Lumer, Tommy Robinson, and Bryland Holleyhand. I think when it says invested in, I think he's probably maybe been in at least two of those. Yeah. Like literally been inside two of those. And I won't say which ones. Yeah, you got to wonder whose private jet Brylin Holleyhand was on. when he made his debut.

Yeah, I've said previously that I believe that he was created in a test tube in Unit 8200 in Tel Aviv, just to be their sex slave. Yeah. Yeah. He was, Shillman was financing T.P. USA to the tune of two million annually, but according to the New York Times, October 1st, 2025, two days before Mr. Kirk's death, Mr. Shulman angrily questioned Mr. for giving a platform to Mr. Carlson informed him he was withdrawing a $2 million pledge to turning point.

He has a property in the Berkshires in my home state. And the other part of that story was that Charlie went up to his property in the Berkshires fairly before his assassination. And this is where all that happened, where he was basically defunded. And this is the fun one. Seth Dillon, CEO of the news satire site the Babylon Bs since 2018, with an estimated net worth of $6 million in 2025. So what the fuck is he doing there?

I mean, he's a minor player. What are they keeping him around for? Dylan presents himself as an evangelical Christian, but acknowledges his Jewish heritage. You know, this as soon as, and I knew that about this about him, and it reminded me, Thomas and Jay Burden are covering, like, doing a series on the occult, and they were talking about the Bayless case from Russia, circa like 1911 to 1915. I think the trial went for an extremely long time, where, you know, a Jewish gentleman

was accused of insanguinating a young Orthodox Christian boy and, you know, killing him and ensanguinating him. That seems familiar. Yeah. Yeah. And then Thomas, like, went down a whole list of accusations and cases throughout, you know, like the last millennia. Of exanguination specifically?

Yeah. Wow. All right. I'd like to say I'm surprised. Yeah. But one of the things that Thomas brought up in that episode was he was talking about how the Talmud says, if a Jew is able to deceive the Akum, which technically, like literally translates into worshipper of stars and. planets. So he's referring to like pagans, but also over the centuries, it's applied to Christians. Yeah.

So by pretending to be a Christian, he doesn't violate doctrinal or moral law. So in other words, pretty much the same thing as Takia in Islam. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Air grid. Operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area. and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person. So together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community.

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How did you describe this? So this looks like a, the first thing that came to my mind is, this is a meta-cathedral specifically tailored for the right wing. And by that, I'm sure your audience is familiar with Curtis Jarvin, his idea of the cathedral, which is just the ecosystem of, narrative, narrative creation, with the higher education, the political system, and the media. I promise I'm not doing a courtesy of an impression. And yeah, but if you look at the types of people in this article, they all represent a faction of this this decentralized ecosystem that happens to line up perfectly with a stated goal. And instead of the furthering of progressivism, it's the furthering of Israeli interests.

And I guess you could describe the parts of this cathedral as the donors, the platforms and the influencers. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. But as, um, as people have, uh, said throughout, you know, ever since they heard the term cathedral come from, uh, from Yarvan was, um, yep, really it's better term the synagogue. Yeah. Well, yeah, I don't think. I think Yarvin would like the application to be universalized in this way. But yeah, I mean, you got your conservative think tanks, your donor networks, your media platforms. TPUSA being a media platform. When anybody gets off the reservation, the cathedral that we know and love right now, we have seen has no problem sicking their antibodies on it.

And that's either in the form of, you know, going off into the sunset, permanent retirement, or even violence. So it's, and again, this is all circumstantial and it's, it all points, it points pretty well in, in the direction that the, that the author talks about. But Charlie was starting to become a disease. and you cannot, you can't have even the entertaining of the question of Israel's existence, let alone, you know, the Israel-Palestine conflict, the influence of Jewish people in our society, you just can't have that. And even inviting the question was it, it's not, it's not ridiculous to say that they would kill him for just inviting that question. Yeah, it seems to me that the, um, his whole, Charlie's whole thing about I will talk to anybody.

They, they don't, they don't line up with that. No. Not at all. Yeah. So having being like, oh, you know, Tucker Carlson's fine. You know, I'll have Tucker Carlson speak at my event. And it wasn't only Tucker Carlson speaking at the event for people who don't realize this or haven't watched his speech. It was the reaction he was getting when he was slamming Israel.

Yes. About 80, 20 in the crowd. Yeah. Chearing him. Young people are turning. on Israel. Young people are starting to make Jewish jokes. Young people are starting to, you know, use Jewish tropes that our grandparents and great

grandparents used. It's, it's not only that. This started a while ago when Charlie would have his change my mind booths and he would, you know, he'd bank on getting like these stupid college. That was, I think that was, I think, I don't think Charlie had to change my mind. No, that was Stephen Crowder. But he would have an open forum where people could ask him questions. And, you know, he would get the typical stupid college lefties that would, you know, why do you hate transgender?

And those were like low hanging fruit, easy to pick off. But then he started to get, you know, people we would say are groopers and start getting questions about, you know, Jewish influence and foreign policy. and questions pointed at Israel, and that was the only time that these young people ever saw him squirm. So, I mean, you can't have that either, but what do you do about that? So July 11th through 13th was the TPP USA event when Tucker Carlson spoke and Dave Smith had that, you know, had that debate with Josh Hammer. And apparently from the timeline, they didn't like Tucker talking about the Epstein files and how the Epstein files needed to be released. And then the following days after that, it says Kirk was bombarded with angry messages from his pro-Israel backers. So, yeah, I mean, his ideology of, hey, you know, open conversation just, you know, leads to more.

freedom. Well, and not everybody believes that, Charlie. Yeah, no, that is more freedom is not the goal. I mean, what I've learned is that free speech to me is being on a platform and having a thousand of us have the ability to reply to some idiot and call them a retarded faggot a thousand times. That is free speech. And TPUSA was not about that. It was you had your safety bumpers and they were all centered around Israel. And you cannot remove those safety bumpers without consequences. So August 4th through 5th was the Hamptons meeting.

And Blumenthal, Max Blumenthal, who reported on this that, um, Ackman hammered Kirk for platforming critics of Israel at TPSA events. Acman, according to multiple sources, had this meeting to basically bully Charlie into submission. Charlie walked away, according to one person feeling like this where there was an attempt to blackmail him. He refused offers of funding and also refused to offer to travel to Israel and meet

with Netanyahu personally. And during that meeting, Netanyahu spoke personally to Kirk on the phone, inviting him to Israel and offering him 150 million to bolster TPUSA. And apparently Kirk said, no. Yeah. He declined. And that is one thing that they don't understand. They don't understand you not taking the money.

Yeah. You have to be mentally ill. You have to be incompetent. You have to be an anti-Semite. Yeah. But they are starting, like even Netanyahu, who is starting to understand that the generations coming up, he is on a timeline.

I mean, he as a Lacudnik, he knows he's on a timeline anyways. As soon as peace actually happens, he's out. And he's probably getting brought up on trial for war crimes. I've talked about this on TLE quite a few times. But more than that, the, the unequivocal support for Israel in our political system is on a timeline. A slightly longer timeline. We got to wait for the boomers to die off.

We got to wait for, you know, the members of my generation to be crushed. And yeah, and that's, I think they're well aware of it, especially now. In the last two months, they became acutely aware of it. And that's why you're starting to see, oh, guess who owns TikTok now? Guess who owns Oracle? Guess who's continuing to get billions, hundreds of billions of dollars in government contracts and AI contracts, Palantir? So I think the shift now is to get people to go from hostile to apathetic. and you're starting to see that

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Hammer, you know, naming him and stating that as an executive director at TPSA, quote, I have less ability to criticize the Israeli government than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird. So, yeah. I mean, it's true. It's true. I mean, there's no, as far as I know, there's no law in Israel against criticizing the government. And they have ridiculous size protests all the time, protesting L'Cood.

Oh, yeah. Well, they did on up until October 6th of 2023. Oh, no, they still have them. Oh, they do? Yeah, oh, yeah, we just don't, we don't see them. Just like we don't see the damage that Iran did to Israel in the bombings. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Then about a week after Charlie was on Megan Kelly, Harrison Smith from Info Wars tweeted, I was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against him.

The tweet drew little attention until after Kirk's death when Smith confirmed it and Max Blumenthal stated that he had heard the same from another source. So, I mean, that's just basically hearsay, but, you know, it's rather interesting. Put it on the pile. Yeah, well, and this next one is very important. So on August 27th, Kirk invited Marjorie Taylor Green to speak at the next turning point annual America Fest conference plan for December of this year. Green is known for her opposition to the power of APAC in American politics and her demand that APAC be registered as a foreign agent. Kirk had previously addressed the APAC question as in a July 2025 debate with TPSA chapter leaders. And what I will say is, I mean, it must.

Immediately, I mean, this had to have gone out from Tel Aviv. Immediately when she started speaking out against APEC, this thing went out that she is doing insider trading and made herself rich. Yeah. Has been debunked numerous times because it's well known. I mean, you know, my wife is from her district. And it's no, her family owns a construction company, like one of the biggest construction companies in Georgia. Yeah, she recently had kind of a heel turn about wanting to loosen up on the deportations for the purposes of cheap labor, right? Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, she, something like that. I mean,

I don't know. I haven't looked. I haven't looked into it. I heard that that was being said, but yeah, I've been, I'm paying a lot of attention to current events, so I need to go down a rabbit hole and see exactly what she was saying and how it's being construed. So, but yeah, and this is, she had released screenshots of Charlie saying you should speak at Amfest. Would you want to also do a debate about APEC, etc? Not with me, no pressure, we'll do whatever you want. So, I mean, if Charlie's tweeting at her saying, you can do a debate about how you think, you know, I mean, what he's saying is, and how you don't think APEC is good for America, I'm fine with it.

Yeah. Because that's what she says. That's what she tells Tucker. Yep. Just opening up the question again. So two days before he shot, Kirk interviews Ben Shapiro, who, I mean, we, yeah. He discussed Israel's bombing of Qatar. quoted approvingly the distrust by some of his friends, possibly Tucker Carlson,

in the mainstream narrative on Israel, and stated that he doesn't like BB Netanyahu's statement, you can't be MAGA if you're anti-Israel. Just think about the absurdity of that narrative. I mean, it's a very convenient narrative, and there's a lot of Normies that will run with that. Do you think there it is? Stormy has been making this point and Astral's been making this point recently that is the support for Israel that we hear about from, you know, like evangelicals. Is it overstated? Because I mean, in my experience, talking with people older than me, they have this memory. mental block where they will agree with you, you know, the, you know, Trump voters, they will agree

with you about everything to do with foreign policy, with sovereignty, even with religion, like fellow Catholics. But they have this mental block with Israel where, and I think it stems from just the the global war on terror. They're, you know, giving an inch to Islam or Muslims is a non-starter. And for some reason, they think that Israel is, is helping us to, I guess, fight them over there. They still have that. It's so ingrained that propaganda. If we don't fight them here, we have to fight them over there. And they view Israel as like our protector that that absorbs all the Islamic terror. And I don't know, no matter how much I press them on it, and I don't press them that much because they're my friends and coworkers. But they can't get over that disconnect.

And that's just my experience, the 50 something, 60 something Trump voters. I mean, you know, even like little, I mean, I'm in the middle of the Bible belt. And you're talking about towns that have 2,000 people in it and you have 15 Baptist churches. I mean, I'm the tiniest Baptist church I've been to around here. They don't talk about Israel. Yeah. It's just there is no support for it. You know, and you would think that this would be the place.

You're thinking this would be the place would be the most anti-month. Muslim and, you know, and maybe I haven't been to every church, maybe there are, but, you know, even pretty much, you know, we're going to one, there's one Baptist church here that we went to for, for a while. And like, the, the pastor was woke on all this, was woke on Israel and how, you know, he was, he pretty much understood the JQ. Yeah. And I mean, and he's in the, you know, and he's in rural Alabama pastoring a church. So I don't know. I wonder if there's a divide between the mega churches and the smaller parishes. Yeah, I think it's the mega churches, man.

I really do. I think it's a church as like Adam Curry goes to. So he has to get on his show and, you know, do everything he can to run interference. And, you know, it's the British. It's the British. No, it's Qatar. Yeah.

So hours after the exchange between Shapiro and Kirk, Shapiro went on the Mark Levine show. Mark Levin, it turns out is probably, he's probably one of the most vile people on the planet. Oh, yeah. No, he's been, he's been showing his cards for a little while now. And I, I'm honestly surprised he still has a show. Like, the shit that he says, if you were to say with the same tone and the same language, you know, and I know this is, oh, imagine if the roles were reversed. But like about it, if you were to talk about Israel and, and, you know, Jews, the way he talks about Muslims and people who don't support Jews, you literally get arrested in this country.

Yeah. I think he at least lose your banking. He was one of the people that, you know, talking, talking about rhetorical innovation, he's the one that pushed the whole Qatar money thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was big on the, yeah, he was calling Tucker and Tucker Cotarlson. I mean, like literally we know that that Qatar is just basically like the Switzerland of the Middle East.

But that's, that's one of the things that these people bring up is like, well, what about Qatar? Qatar donates more money into lobbying, like American lobbyists than any other country. But they don't. No, they, A, they don't. And B, they're registered. They're registered under Farah. And you know who's not? Yeah.

But Leather Apron Club did a really long video, and I clipped like 15 minutes of it. All that money is not coming into the country. Basically, Qatar is building like foreign campuses for Texas A&M and other American colleges in Qatar. But the money has to come through. like they have to register the money it has to like show up like on in american ledgers yeah the money doesn't come here they're basically using it to build like a an american college system in katar so the money doesn't when they say oh they they look how much money they give to american colleges the money doesn't go to american colleges it's also um they're involved in a lot of

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But Qatar, the best that I can tell is that if you want money, if you're a country like Israel, and you want money funneled to your enemies and you don't want people to know, you send it to people in Qatar and Qatar sends it to Hamas, just like Netanyahu was doing by propping up Hamas. So, all right, Shapiro tells Mark Levine, Shapiro speaking to Mark Levine, right after he speaks to Charlie Kirk, you can't be a leader on the right if you think the president is covering up a Mossad rape ring or struck Iran for Israel.

I mean, we read this. We read this and we think this is comical. Yeah, good, good luck with that. But, you know, and then it, and then it works on the Gen Xers and boomers. Yeah. And millennials, I got to say. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. September 9th, day before Kirk's assassination, martyred him. Around 3.30 to 4 p.m. Eastern time, Charlie exchanged messages on a WhatsApp group chat with seven other people, including Josh Hammer, Pastor Rob McCoy, and probably Rabbi Willicki. Kirk was obviously in a combative mood, although punished for having invited Carlson, he was now thinking of inviting Candace. Quote, I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause. end quote. Candice revealed this exchange on October 7th and shamed McCoy and Hammer for having lied when denying its existence. She is vindicated by Andrew Colvert, executive producer TPSA.

Since Colvett reported this exchange to the FBI after Kirk's death, he must have been part of the WhatsApp group. And it is certainly him who communicated it to Candace. Charlie says here in one of these Jewish donors play into all. all the stereotypes, I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause. Same day, day before he's shot. Two hours after that exchange from 6 to 7 p.m., Kirk had a one-hour Zoom meeting with Rabbi Willicki, Josh Hammer, Mickey McCoy, who's Kirk's chief of staff, and a few others.

In an interview, he gave on September 13th, that's three days after Charlie's shot, to New York Post and in later video appearance dated October 9th, Waliki said he was concerned that many of Kirk's fans were turning on Israel and there were prominent people actively working to get him to drop his support for Israel. Kirk was, according to Wollickie, in a combative mood and playing the role of Deadpool's advocate, which in view of Kirk's messages the day before must be understood as Wollickie's euphemistic presentation of Kirk telling him and Hammer to go to hell. it's amazing how having a disagreement with Jews is the exact same thing as actively working to erode support for Israel. No, dude, it's another Holocaust. It's literally another Holocaust. September 9th at 9.05 p.m. Two hours after his Zoom meeting with Kirk, Josh Hammer retweeted approvingly a 12-year-old tweet by Trump saying,

should be public execution for all to see, you will end this bullshit fast. since the context of Trump's original tweet is irrelevant and since Hammer was a key participant in all the communication with Kirk that day, the WhatsApp chat and the Zoom meeting, this tweet can reasonably be interpreted to as referring to Kirk's public execution the next day and thereby indicative of Hammer's foreign knowledge. I won't go to say, I won't say all that, but man, it's really fucking weird. Yeah. Yep. It's September 10th. Kirk is shot dead on the campus of Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah at 1220. Three hours after Kirk's death, Hammer again cryptically tweeted public execution, echoing his tweet of the day before, suggesting that he was cryptically taking responsibility for Kirk's assassination.

Once again, that is Gigno. That is Gino's understanding and how he sees the tweets. I'm not saying anything. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The lizard brain part of me is like, nah, that's going a little too far, but Ah.

Yeah. Hours after Kirk's death, Netanyahu eulogized Kirk in an ex-tweet and referred to his phone conversation with Kirk. I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. The implication being that he was deafly. The implication being that he was definitely wanting to go. September 12th, two days after the assassination, amid mounting rumors that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination, Netanyahu booked himself on newsmax to re- to declare those rumors insane.

What an odd thing to say. It's, why, why would you do that? It was something we were talking about this on the Inquisition. the other day. It's like, if you get accused of something, the best thing to do is shut up. Yes. Is don't address it. And they can't, he can't do that. Netanyahu can't do that.

And I don't think, I think since October 7th, I don't think Jews in general can do it. I think October 7th was some kind of activation was some kind of, we've seen it before in history if you study history hacking their neuroticism well this happens where it's just there's it's almost like the spirit of the age changes i i i have been saying since september 7th that that was or was it october 7th october 7th i've been saying since october 7th that it's just a change we change the spirit of the age and we're in a new age now and you know nothing's ever going to be. I said this is going to be the conversation going forth. And I don't like to make predictions because, you know, I think people who make predictions just one who they're, I think

they're trying to build themselves up to something they're not. And then when the prediction doesn't come true, they have to go into rationalization mode. But I mean, I'm on, you can listen to a podcast from back then. I'm saying, this changes everything. And this will be a conversation going forward. We can observe its rhetorical use in the last couple of years that it's it's trying to take the place of the holocaust narrative for the new generations that's all this is that's all it is i think you want to know something funny guess what my anniversary is what is it october seventh 2023 baby best day of my life you got married on that day didn't you i did yeah yep and then we went uh took our honeymoon in greece while there were missiles flying around

you know what our you know my anniversary is what one one 10 oh yeah i'll just leave that out there my wife said i wanted to be something that you can remember i'm like i'll remember once yeah so yeah and so basically this is when it comes to if you if you want to to if you want to decide, I guess then you have to take into consideration, okay, you know, who is Tyler Robinson and what did he do that day? And what did he, why did he do this? What is he saying? Is, is he saying anything? Is what is going on here? Are you talking about the text thread? Because that was the text thread that Cash Patel released, or they had like a conference on it where they read through it.

And that was the first thing that got my wheels spinning. Just how disingenuous and robotic it sounded. Like we know the types of people that are like Tyler Robinson, just terminally online furry freaks. And, you know, in a hermetically sealed positive feedback loop, known as a group chat that we can all relate to. but, you know, just in the direction of complete evil nihilism. And that didn't sound like those types of people talking with one another.

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Yeah. You know, my love, saying stuff like my love and everything like that. I mean, yeah, I know that, you know, people say, oh, you know, a lot of kids are just basically theater kids now. but that just doesn't okay i just killed a high profile you know figure on on the right in american politics and i'm as calm as can be and you know i'm even like the grammar and the syntax like yeah the the um inconsistent use of like contractions like i have just killed somebody and like the the the complete, the inconsistent use of like abbreviations that we all use in regular texts and

group chats. Like, I don't know. It seems like AI generated, but I don't know. That's just, that's the first thing that got my wheels spinning. It was very wooden. The thing that really started to, the thing that I questioned the most, I'm not saying I know what happened. But here's what the first thing I thought was, okay, it's a 200 yard shot.

It wasn't a 200 yard shot. It was 140 yard shot. And I'm thinking to myself, well, you, has this person ever looked down a scope before and like, you know, trained it on someone, another human being? You know, how, how calm would he be? What is he giving a second thought? how proficient is he with this weapon. Okay. I don't even care about that anymore.

And I haven't cared about that in a while. Because I found out through just, I look this up all the time to see if it's changed. Tyler Robinson walks through the door onto that roof. And 60 seconds later, he's climbing down off of that roof. Yeah. Do you see a problem with that? Yeah, when you're trying to pick up. As somebody who shot, I'm sure you've shot a rifle.

I'm sure you've shot a scoped rifle. I'm sure you've probably shot one off a tripod. Do you see any, now I'm sure you, well, I don't know. That's some next level breathing control. Yeah, you're sort of a crazy guy. I don't know if you've ever, you know, shot somebody, you know, assassinated somebody from 140 yards in a public place, you know, at an angle. at a downward angle, but 60 seconds, you climb up on the roof, you get there, you get in position,

you get your rifle ready, you train, you shoot them in the neck, kill shot, and then all within 60 seconds, you're climbing back down off the roof. You get your disassembled rifle ready, right? Well, now they're saying, well, whenever I've said that before, and people are like, well, you know, no, no, he had it in his pants or he had it covered or something. Okay, fine. I'm perfectly fine with that. He didn't disassemble.

Sure. Okay. Still, 60 seconds up on that roof. Is this guy a fucking pro? I mean, would tell me, maybe someone can tell me who is a pro who's assassinated people at distance in the middle of the day from a roof in public. If you had 60 seconds to set up and if you had 60 seconds to go through a door, go across a roof, the full length across a roof, get in position, shoot, kill shot, and then you're climbing down off of the building. Does 60 seconds sound plausible? It just doesn't sound plausible to me.

That's the part of the story of his story. The note, yeah, of course. But the part of the story that gets me is that he could do that all in 60 seconds if he wasn't some kind of insanely trained pro which he wasn't so my question is all right so how there's every time something like this happens i'm being asked and and things come to light that just seemed to be impossible you know you know like you know that three planes could fly into the friggin uh the two planes could fly into the most protected airspace and another plane could fly into even more protected airspace and no one shoots it down. And they're just allowed to fly. I'm being asked to trust to trust too much in, oh, this was an anomaly. It's always a fucking anomaly. Yep. And then when you point that out,

you're being asked to suspend your disbelief or else. Yeah, or else you're crazy. And it's like, look, I'm not even saying, I'm not here saying that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I'm saying that dude was up on a fucking roof for 60 total seconds. And if you watch the video of him getting up on the roof, the door he goes through is all the way on the other side of the roof where he fired the shot from. So then he has to walk all the way across the roof, get set up, train, you know, train of scope, take the shot and then start climbing down. I'm just saying I'm sorry.

I'm saying that either that's a bullshit story or he was up there for longer. But I'm being told, no, it was definitely 60 seconds. You know, and I'm being told, and I'm being told he was definitely up there for 60 seconds. And you better believe that he, that he was able to do all of this and do all of this on his own with no help from anyone else that we're being told of. And if I don't believe that, I'm a kook. Yeah. Yep. And no matter how big the mountain gets of circumstantial evidence, it's still just a little bit beyond the pale for the average person to even consider the questioning the official story.

Yeah. And here's a thing. Okay. So let's play into the, into what people are saying. saying. And I mean, what normies are saying. They're literally, I mean, I'm hearing stories from people who are like, yeah, normie, normies I know, not even normie cons like normies. Or like, oh, yeah, Israel did this. This was Israel. Um, see, the normies I talk to say he was a Democrat, which is just infuriating. It is absolutely infuriating. Like, that he was a Democrat narrative.

stuck with so many people that I know. And I just, it's all I can do not to launch into a tirade to, to scare the shit out of them and say, do you know how many group chats with kids just like him exist in the world and have existed since the internet was a thing? You're talking about Tyler Robinson. Yeah.

Yep. I mean, I think Charlie was a Democrat. But that's a good story. Oh, he was a lib. I mean, he was definitely a liberal. He thought that he could talk to people. He thought that, oh, you know, the Enlightenment and, you know.

Oh, no. No, I'm saying Tyler Robinson was a lib. Yeah, yeah, he was a lib. I like the one device that I like that my friend Carl Dahl does. He's my guy to go to on the Spanish Civil War. he doesn't care if it's an anarchist or a communist or a Republican in the Spanish Civil War. He calls them all Lib Tards because then he goes to explain how they wanted to basically kill half of the Catholics in Spain. And what he's doing by that is he's basically saying, look, I don't care what flavor of a liberal you're, what Libtar you're talking about.

They all want to kill you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and I mean, can it be argued now that, I mean, look at the way they celebrated this. I mean, openly, people were, people were fucking celebrating this on their LinkedIn pages. Oh, yeah. Well, who owns LinkedIn? Was that Reed Hoffman? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, does he still? I don't know. But it's, you, you. These are hard things to have a conversation about anymore because, well, here's a good thing. Okay, so here, let me take this in an opposite direction. Here's a good thing. People just don't believe this shit anymore, man.

They don't believe the official narrative. No. Like, there are a lot of, like, you know, what I thought to myself before, like, October 7th and before, but really after October 7th, after I watched all of this unfold, the way they're playing this. I thought, man, the way they can really get Israel back on their side is they're going to have to pull off another false flag. But the thing is, who's going to believe it? Nobody believes, I mean, people don't believe anything anymore.

They don't believe the official story. No. No, that died with COVID. Yeah. I think COVID was the nail in the coffin for some type of mask. casualty event to be attributed to, you know, bad actors and then everybody can unite against those bad actors. That nobody's uniting about anything anymore. You either have, you either have potential to recognize what the problem is or you don't. And then when you become politically

aware, you are sifted from one side or another. And those sides are completely adversarial now. So I guess the biggest thing that stands in the way of the Israel killed Charlie Kirk thing is Tyler Robinson. That he exists. I would agree. And that he's in jail. What happens to that? I mean, I keep thinking every day that I'm going to wake up and I'm going to read that Tyler Robinson killed himself in jail. and if that happens

it's almost like they're in a rocket if the people who write the narratives are honest with themselves and just aren't way out over their skis just throwing shit against the wall seeing what sticks they have to realize that if they kill that kid that immediately everybody's going to run through

that Israel killed Charlie Kirk but I mean do they even care anymore do they think that they could get away with it somehow that like they could kill the kid and people would still be on their side and and believe oh well you know he was just you know he was a tortured boy and everything and you know he he realized he killed somebody and you know obviously you know he was into he was into trunes so you know he's probably he is mentally ill but I mean I just don't see this is what I've seen since I've seen since I October, the Charlie Kirk assassination is just a continuation of what I've seen since October 7th. They've completely lost the narrative.

It doesn't matter that the people that you talk to support Israel. What's more important is, is that people with huge amounts of money and platforms support Israel. Oh, yeah. That Tucker Carlson, that Tucker Carlson supports Israel, that Mark. Marjorie Taylor Green supports Israel, that Thomas Massey supports Israel, that Candace Owen supports Israel. People couldn't say all they want about how Candace Owens is a clown. She's, you know, she's insane. Dude, she is out there frigging like middle class women on a daily basis. Middle class women are talking about how they, yeah, I'm hearing people saying, yeah, my mom listens. My mom watches Candace every day now. it's like

I mean look I don't care how they get how people get jaybilled I think I think that might be a function of just wives and girlfriends inevitably assume the political identity of their their husbands or boyfriends oh I've another thing that I've taken to saying

that has made some people crazy when I say it is the dating period is only to find out if your, if, if your potential wife is going to adopt your politics. Because if she doesn't adopt your politics, you're getting divorced. Yeah.

And I think that was definitely a factor. In the dating game, uh, in 2019, when I was still in the dating game, that was definitely a factor. Yeah, you can't.

I don't see how you can survive and in a house sharing a bed with somebody who is like, you know, if you're metastasized. Yeah, if you're all the way over where we are and they're all the way, they're like secretly celebrating, you know, Charlie Kirk's death. Say, well, you know, you shouldn't. Yeah. I mean, what, what do you do? No, there's a fundamental mismatch in your foundational morality.

and marriages don't survive that or relationships don't any relationship doesn't really survive that yeah I don't I think that that's really really important I mean yeah I'm this pisses a lot of people off

but I mean women just don't have political agency one of the reasons why we're in the situation we're in is because women are in politics there are female politicians I mean, I'm sorry. And they're left to their own devices. They gravitate towards power. And that power, not to sound like a lulbert, but that power is the state.

Yeah. You know, and you throw a woman into college and, you know, at best, they don't come out a flaming, purple-haired, insane person. They come out a girl boss. Yeah. And a girl boss is fucking is the kind of, oh, I need to become a politician and I need to change things. It's like, well, show me a hardcore right wing, you know, female politician. Marjorie Taylor Green. No.

Not a hardcore right winger. Yeah, I remember telling people like this conversation with this. And it just really goes to show. how conservatives, how Trump, like when Trump ran, he, a bunch of people who had never, like, paid attention to politics other than, like, on a very superficial level, became political. But, like, they didn't start reading books. They didn't, like, pick up Eric Vogelin or, you know, like James Burnham or, you know, even like you know read the federalist papers they started watching the news and i remember talking to

someone in like 2020 and we're talking about biden you know running for election and i'm like and yeah he called biden a communist and i'm like biden's like a center like center left and on many days he's center right i what what do you what are you talking about what's a communist and like he's like you can't say that biden is like a centrist everything i'm like yeah what about the what is what is the centrist yeah it's like what was the crime bill and these are people who don't even know that like he penned the crime bill in the 90s and stuff stuff like that. So it's like to go back to this whole, you know, this article and everything, of course, a bunch of people are going to when the whole spirit of politics at this time is,

I mean, a serious friend enemy distinction. Existential. It's existential now. And that's that's why I'm so happy to see so many young people posting things like, I don't care about the group chat and a picture of Charlie Kirk or a picture of, uh, uh, what's her name, Irranya, uh, the girl like, the Ukrainian girl, yeah. Yeah. And this, this whole attitude shift towards the debates over. We owe you nothing. And now it's an existential conflict. Yeah. And these people don't. And, the left doesn't quote unquote left doesn't know how to deal with it. The enemy just doesn't know how to deal with the fact that I still got called a racist. I know. And they don't know how to deal with it. They don't know how to deal with the, the paradigm that they begged for.

They never thought they would lose. It all goes back to that. They never thought they would lose. And that's not to say that we've won, but we are winning. Well, we're going to have to win a lot harder because, um, because if we don't. Yeah. If I mean, when the swing back, yeah, it's like the lull cows who are like, you know, whenever you increase the size, increase the power of government, the next time when you're out of power,

I'm like, well, when the fuck do they not increase the size of government when they're in power. No, COVID. If COVID didn't blow that apart, I don't know what will. Then I assume those people are just arguing in bad faith at that point. I mean, either they're arguing in bad faith or that like that kind of libertarian attitude has just become their identity and become their morality. Yeah.

You know, so they, they can't see past it where, you know, it's like, okay. Well, you know, I think Trump should become, you know, an Article 2 president and basically, you know, start crushing the worst of the worst. Yes. Because if he doesn't, then that Lawbird argument of, well, what happens when they get elected again? That Lawbird argument will come about. And that's the response to them is, gee, you better make sure we don't lose. So stop being a fucktard. You know, you just, I know that we have people inside the administration who know this.

I know this for a fact because I know people inside the administration. But it's trying to get, there's too much, people want this to be done overnight. And I honestly believe it could be done overnight, but you're going to, you're going to have to, I mean, you're going to have to cross the Rubicon and, you know, not set up. camp on the other side, you're just going to have to keep going. But it really proves that the last hundred years of building this managerial state, this administrative state, just how hard it is to deal. I mean, I'm not going to say Biden did this because Biden didn't do anything except shit his pants for the last three years he was president.

But whoever he had around him, all they did was, I mean, it was a concerted effort to put judges. Oh, yeah. Into, I mean, did you see that, did you see that number that 40, between 40 and 60% of the judges in Washington, D.C. and like, circuit courts weren't born in this country? I didn't see that, but again, it's, it's not surprising. Think about that. I mean, it is, you're, it's bio-Leninism, 100%. Right down. I mean, and that's basically where we're at is, you know, the problem is is that when the left does biolaninism, they put people in there who are just incompetent enough to like really fuck shit up.

But the right doesn't really use biolaninism in the way the left uses it. Like the left will also use it. I'm using left and right just as an American thing. Shut up. I know I'm not in 19th century France. And people who say you can't use left and right anymore. I mean, really see Canadian health care. But you're putting, what they're doing is they're putting the most radical people into positions. People who cannot be argued with. People who you're not going to change their mind. You're taking your most radical people and making them judges, putting them in charge of NGOs, putting them, I mean, and what does the right do with their radical people? the people who know exactly what time it is and the people who are the ones who look to history and say, okay, this is the way, this is the way we beat them before. This is how we're going to have to beat them now.

They leak their group chat and get them fired. Yep. There is absolutely no friend enemy distinction in conservatism. I would like to think that, you know, even though we are pretty decentralized, even though we are kind of a, I guess you could describe it as a thousand competing vertically integrated cathedrals. And sometimes we get along and sometimes we fight.

That's just a function of, I think it's just a function of, you know, enjoying competition and enjoying hierarchy. But that's one thing that we need to figure out, badly. I say we, but it's something that you need to figure out, Pete. Here's from, here's from my friend Stormy. I'll share this with you. The Reagan caucus saying, no, sorry guys, enough with the excuses, using the FCC to go after your political opponents

is thug behavior and a same Congress wouldn't put up with it. And what does Stormy say? The enemy of any revolutionary rightist movement is a conservative. The enemy of any revolutionary rightness movement is the conservative the enemy of any revolutionary rightist movement is the conservative that's almost a direct mirror of our state and revolution reading imagine that that's why i i released that every once in a while re-release that every once in a while and um it's amazing that people i i assume there are people who are like i'm not going to listen to that i'm i'm not going to listen to i give your audience more credit than that i hope so man i really do because you here's I don't get my audience credit but your audience is a cut above

you're openly hostile to your audience which I am sometimes too I've learned too much from you but I'm I'm so hostile I just stopped showing up people don't realize that if they like listen to our and I'm not saying you have to listen to it you can read state and revolution on your own it's 100 pages you will know more about communism than people calling themselves communist. Oh, absolutely. That was my whole shtick for a while. Yeah. Yeah, it was, you know, it's like Thomas says. He goes, they're running around calling like Mandami, Mandami a communist, and they're calling all these people communists.

It's like, all right, so where are their writings on dialectical materialism? Yeah. Yeah, it's like post-colonial theory is just liberalism now. It's not even, I mean, Orthodox Marxism is mostly dead, but I'm in a way, in a sick way, I kind of hope it starts resurging. You know, these No Kings protests that are going on today, on their posters, they have a lot of Marxist organizations that are going to be helping out with organizing. And like, I don't know. It'll be interesting. I don't support it, obviously, but it'll be.

it'll be interesting. Yeah. I mean, and to bring it back, you were talking about, you know, how it's just basically democracy now. That's why another book that I read on my podcast was a demon and democracy by Rizar Lago, because he just proves in there. He shows, you know, what the Marxists were trying to do and what liberalism, what liberalism turns into. And, you know, it's like where I think you and I have said before that basically libertarianism, libertarianism, libertarianism, libertarianism, And Marxists have the same, pretty much the same critiques. And they, but the problem with that is, they also have a tendency to view humans in the same dehumanizing way.

Yeah. Yep. Means instead of ends. Yeah. All right, man. Thank you for what? They're free to go off into the marsh. just march march until you're stuck

but um anyway are you are you ever going to go back on t le eventually i will yeah i think i think my contractual obligations are going to kick in and i'm going to get a call from a t lees in-house legal counsel if i don't is dune really doing that oh yeah yep yep he gives uh he gives us a lot of good legal advice and sometimes we take it.

Most of the time not. Or you're free not to. All right, man. I appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you very much for having me on. Of course.