The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1283: How the Soviet Union Started World War 2 - Part 1 - w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

65 MinutesPG-13Thomas777 is a revisionist historian and a fiction writer.Thomas joins Pete to start a series examing the work of Viktor Suvorov (Vladimir Rezin) and Joachim Hoffmann who sought to prove in their books, "Icebreaker," and "Stalin's War of Extermination," that Stalin orchestrated the beginning of World War 2.Thomas' SubstackRadio Free Chicago - T777 and J BurdenThomas777 MerchandiseThomas' Buy Me a CoffeeThomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 1"Thomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 2"Thomas on TwitterThomas' CashApp - $7homas777Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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I have a reason why I think it is but why don't you tell us what we're going to talk about today. Well, in broad causal terms, we're going to talk about the role of the Soviet Union and the Second World War. That's an issue that's mischaracterized. The main minority viewpoint is presented by Victor Suvarov's icebreaker. Suvarov is a pseudonym for the Soviet defector, who was a deeply insinuated into GRU, which was the military's or the Red Army's counterpart to KGB. KGB was technically a branch of the Soviet military, but GRU was literally Army intelligence. As it may, Suvorov insisted, well, most people in addressing Suvorov, they've got a discrete and narrow focus.

Essentially, where they begin their analysis is on the eve of Operation Barbarossa, and they get bogged down in the minutia of what were Soviet deployments. How were they arrayed? Were they offensively arrayed? What were the comparative force levels and capabilities of the Vermeck and the, Wehrmacht and the Red Army. Now, these things are relevant, and I'll address those things. But that's not an adequate analysis, and Suvorov didn't begin his analysis there either. Suvorov's claim is that the Soviet Union literally started World War II.

And I accept that. And it's not a strictly military analysis. Everything about the Second World War was in dialogue with Soviet power and the Soviet Union. The entire 20th century was in dialogue with the Soviet Union and its existence. And the ideology that animated its structure, activity, decision-making, and every imperative related to power political activity therein. So other people, there's a subset of people just don't really understand the issues presented. And they essentially accept what court historians claim.

But then they diverge or they think that the question is, should there, you know, should there be a deeper analysis at this key juncture in the summer of 1941? one, they're looking at it the wrong way, you know, either out of ignorance or because they're cowed by what they view as a political consensus among academe, and they don't want to be availed to a kind of punitive scrutiny. And I'll get into what I mean by that. you know i if you if you accept the if you accept the if you accept suvarov's perspective which was also shared by yak him hoffman yagam hoffman was um a military historian he was when he was alive um he died in middle age in the 1990s early 2000s but he wrote this exhaustive book called

Stalin's War of Extermination. And he was essentially a Bundesweil archivist. And he wrote this exhaustive book about the origins of the Second World War. And about half of it is dedicated to the political conditions that gave rise to the conflict. And about half of it deals with kind of hard and best military subject matter, but I think that's the best book written on the topic. And he agreed very much with Suvroves analysis.

But also myself, especially being somebody who favors direct evidence and the testimony of parties to the events in question. You know, if you look at what Stalin said and if you examine the sort of ontological aspects, the political ontology of Marxist-Weninism, there should be something of a no-brainer. You know, there's this idea that the Soviet Union didn't have ambitions of an imperialistic nature that it had no interest and experience. supporting its ideology to the rest of the developed world, that it wasn't possessed of an expansionist sensibility that's laughable. I mean, it's laughable because the only thing that sustains a revolutionary political culture such as that that was characteristic of the Soviet Union is a this kind of dynamic revolutionary violence that's got to be exported once the revolution is consolidated within but also um you know the Soviet union uh between 1920 and 1939 it conquered a landmass of uh that was equivalent to the size of

to the German Reich in 1919, something like 400,000 square kilometers. This was a massively aggressive expansionist burgeoning superpower. You know, that's indisputable. And this idea that the world, where you're talking about the United Kingdom, which had conquered 23% of this planet, and lorded over 500 million people. You've got the Soviet Union, which constitutes one-sixth of this planet. And it's animated by this revolutionary imperative that calls for the bolshevization of the entire developed world. You have the United States, which is in control as a 1939 of fully half of this planet, remaining resources the idea that the world was terrified of this comparatively tiny country in Germany

that's a laugh at you know I mean that's that's ridiculous um I don't know how else to characterize it and the fact that you know people suggest that is um you know is is is is insane um I'd say it's comical, but there's nothing funny about it because this kind of garbage and foreign's decision making, and it you know, it's a kind of mass delusion

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it often makes this point really at the beginning of his study. you know, the imperialistic, I don't mean imperialist in the sense Lenin has talked about it. I mean, the Soviet Union was an empire in the ideological sense, make no mistake. And this sort of violent, imperialistic power political sensibility, it was this kind of revolutionary praxis. It was baked into every aspect of the Soviet political system.

even the heraldic standard of the Soviet Union, which endured until the final days in 1991. It was literally the globe with overlaid on the planet Earth is this giant hammer and sickle. You know, that was the Soviet coat of arms. The symbolism is obvious. you know, communism will encircle the whole world, you know, and the motto of the Soviet Union, similarly until the end, translates to proletarians of all countries unite. Yeah, it can't really be more on the nose than that, you know, but again, intrinsic to,

in terms of the Marxist's letting its ethos as a globalist perspective that's one of the reasons why the 20th century belongs so much to the communists because it was uniquely it was an ideology that was uniquely suited to the then-present and it was fundamentally forward-looking

that can't be denied you know it's obsolescence oh do you know, the fact that it became a state, the form of organization, and it was, it became an obsolescent psychological artifact,

but at zenith, it was very much astride, the zeitgeist, and they can't be denied. and even it was animated by uniquely expansionist sensibility but even had it not been everybody was was everybody who was you know participating in veld's politic at scale had a global perspective i mean that was the reality the 20th century was decided what configuration globalism would take Okay, it's this idea of a kind of insular communism that was narrowly statist and Edward-looking. I mean, that's ridiculous. And beyond that, Stalin himself came to characterize the ideological culture of Marxist Leninism for an entire generation. It's not accidental that, you know, he reigned for over 30 years. and I believe he was the single most powerful man on earth.

And that is incredible for all kinds of reasons. But, you know, he very much set the tenor of, you know, the revolutionary culture characteristic of the socialist community of nations, as it was called. And he was a confidante of Lenin. and Lenin said repeatedly and often, but most notably, Lenin's famous December 6, 1920 speech, which was dedicated to communist praxis and the vision of a Veltpolitik, a Soviet Veltpolitik, he said that to incite the capitalist states against each other is the main stratagem of communism.

In his words, he said, quote, of using the knives of scoundrels like the capitalist thieves against each other on grounds that when, quote, when two thieves fall out and fight, the honest man laughs. As soon as we are strong enough to overthrow capitalism completely, we will grab them by the throat. Victory of the communist revolution in all countries is inevitable. And that encapsulates Marxist-Leninist Veltz-Poletev. And that defined it until the very end. This was still the ambition when even amidst the strategic nuclear stalemate, you know, in the late 80s, they were still challenging in Latin America to try and rectify the

strategic imbalance owing the, you know, the advantage conferred the United States and their, and its allies, you know, by the inter-German border, you know. Again, this shouldn't be, this shouldn't be mysterious or controversial. other. Now, what I think of as literally the Stalin doctrine, this was presented and articulated during a speech Stalin made to the Central Committee of the All-Communist Party in July 1925. And for the Soviets denied that this speech happened for decades. And, the Soviets denied that this speech happened for decades. And, it was authenticated that the speech was made and I'll get into how this came about as we continue but we're not there yet but what Stalin declared at this speech was quote should the war

begin we will not stand by inactively we will enter the war but we will enter as the last belligerent. We will throw a weight on the scales that should be decisive. The historian named Alexander Neckrich. He characterized this as the Stalin doctrine, and he insisted that this was never abandoned, and that's true. And subsequent events and Stalin's decision, making in a command role as well as, you know, in war and peace terms, as well as in his role as general secretary, bear that out. You know, Stalin's last power political act was, you know,

giving Mao and Kimmel Sung a green light to assault on the Korean peninsula. Okay. And this led to a crisis on order of the Cuba crisis, you know, less than a decade later. It's a tangent, but I, about every decade subsequent, 1950, 1962, 973, 1983, there was a general crisis wrought by the traversing of a conflict, dyad in what was a peripheral theater but that you know nonetheless had the potential for

escalation to it's a general nuclear war and but my point being that it's not as if you know Stalin literally at the end of his life was still making decisions pursuant to this sort of doctrine air um you know um program air grid operator of ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest we're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans our consultation closes on the 25th of November have your say online or in-person so together we can create a more reliable sustainable electricity supply for your Find out more at airgrid.I.E. 4 slash Northwest.

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but also these public speeches that he made for the consumption, not just the Soviet people, but, you know, as a way of signaling to the rest of the world, it was clear that he was convinced that a general crisis had arrived, you know, and global capitalism was on its way out, you know. it was in 1939, early 1939, the British ambassador to the Soviet Union

their Stafford Cripps and the American ambassador Lawrence F. Steinhart they both were adamant that Stalin intended to bring about a war not only in Europe but in East Asia and that this was a

great threat facing the British Empire in the United States of America. and this is important, especially the fact of Stalin's attention to the developing situation in the far east. I'd argue that this was an essential aspect of what became his strategic vision, and we'll get into what I mean by that in a moment. when around between about 1991 and 1995, a lot of documents briefly became available from the Soviet archives.

That's how David Irving got Goebbels, the microfilm of Gerbil's Diaries. That wouldn't be possible anymore, obviously, today. And now, if you, even if the Russian government viewed you as basically friendly, your view to as a dissident from the United States. They're not going to give you access to anything the FSB has. And I mean, even something of exclusively historical interest, you know, from the war years. They're not going to let anybody see that, you know, from without. But there was this brief period of openness in the 1990s.

And during that period, a bunch of documents. that have been corralled by the people's commissariat for foreign affairs. You know, that in the form of internal memorandum, as well as literally directives from, you know, the desk of Stalin. You know, obviously it's not indicated as such, but reading between the lines, you know, these are obviously statements from the general secretary. Most notably, the People's Commissariat delegation to Japan, the telegram from Moscow, that suggests that the Soviet diplomatic,

in Japan should agree to any treaty that tends to bring about hostility between Japan and the United States. You know, it's very undisguised. All of these communications are, you know, throughout the 1930s, that anything that brings about a Japanese-American war should be cultivated. And that this is imperative to Soviet ambitions. You know, the way it was described by one of the archivists who was involved in this NGO, which I think still exists. There was this NGO that was corralled, or incorporated rather, in January, 1989, you know, this months before the engineering border fell. like what was in a year that was dedicated to documenting human rights abuses as they called it and other things during the stalin era and there's interesting data relating to the power political

situation you know in the years prior to 1939 that they corralled as well and a a of particular significance. There was this transcribed memo from years subsequent by a man who served in the Chinese or Japanese diplomatic mission, Soviet diplomatic mission in the 1930s. And he said, quote, the Soviet Union for its part was interested in distracting British and American attention from European problems. And in Japanese neutrality during the period of the destruction of Germany and the liberation of Europe from capitalism. And then, of course, it became clear that Japan was not going to remain neutral or America

was not going to allow it to strike a position in neutrality. You know, it became imperative to do everything possible to bring in the United States and Japan into collision, which once it began clear what the new dealer's ambitions were that that sort of resolve itself from the Soviet perspective. But nevertheless, Japan was at the top of Stalin's mind, and we'll get into what I mean by that in a minute. Now, this is really what's critical to Suvorov's hypothesis and mine own as well as what Suvorov posited. And again, I echo this sentiment. I, uh, the, the Soviet Union started World War II in August 1939 when they launched a massive

surprise attack at Cal King goal and knocked out the Japanese Imperial Army. Okay. and that changed everything. And that also was literally the start of World War II. If you look at hostilities between 1939 and 1945 as a singular conflict, which I think in broad conceptual terms is useful, you know, especially because that's court history claims that War II began, you know, in September of 1939. and bizarrely they claim that, you know,

Polish borders were somehow inviolable, and any traversing of them was an act of global war. But if we examine the ambitions and strategic orientations and objectives of why the Soviet Union assaulted Japan, it becomes clear that this was the start of the Second World War. and the reasons why they did that, what this said in motion, it was truly an aspect of a global campaign of revolutionary conquest. But in the days before that, and this is important too, because like the 1925 speech, the Soviet Union later claimed this never happened.

And it's interesting how the allies dealt with it in subsequent years. But on August 19, 1939, Stalin called a surprise secret meeting of the Central Committee of the Politburo. During the meeting, Stalin announced that the time had now come to quote, apply the torch of war to the European powder kid. Now, of course, this was also as the non-aggression pact was being, you know, negotiated with the German Reich. What Stalin said to the assembled central committee, quote, if we accept the German

proposal for the conclusion of a non-aggression pact with them, they would naturally attack Poland, and the intervention of France and England in this war would be inevitable. The resulting unrest and disorder will lead to the destabilization of Western Europe without us, us being the Soviet Union, being initially drawn into the conflict. And again, you know, since 1921, 25. This had been what the Soviet Union was waiting for, according to the

Stalin doctrine, as a catalyst for, you know, exporting the revolution to Western Europe. You know, and Stalin continued saying, quote, we can hope for an advantageous entry into the war. In typical Stalin

euphemistic language, he said, quote, a broad field of activity, a broad field of activity was now opening for the development of the world revolution. In other words, the accomplishments, which had never been abandoned, for the Sovietization of Europe and communist domination. He concluded this speech by saying, comrades, in the interest of the Soviet Union,

the homeland of the workers, get busy and work so warmly break out between the Reich and the capitalistic Anglo-French block. Employers rewarding your staff? Why choose between a shop voucher or a spend anywhere card when with options card you can have both. With options card, your team gets the best of both worlds. They can spend with Ireland's favorite retailers or choose a spend anywhere card. It's simple to buy and easy to manage. There are no hidden fees.

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And, you know, then the non-aggression pact, of course, was finalized four days subsequent. And it becomes clear, you know, I don't want to take us down another tangent, but it was really Gearing, who pushed really hard for a firm alliance with the Japanese. I mean, Hitler was already sort of disposed that way anyway. Gary

respected the Japanese a lot and Gary was something of a terrible snob and he thought that Japan was like a high culture which is true but beyond the aesthetical attraction

you know the understanding was that Japan was a great power in its own right and they'd smash the Imperial Russian Navy in 1905 and you know Japan was just you know the ideal hedge to have against the Soviet Union

the East so when the Red Army launched this blitz of salt the Japanese Army in the Far East and utterly annihilated them this terrified people and it also it really meant that you know the Reich had no choice but to sue for temporary peace with the Soviet Union because then they had no hedge, you know, and it was clear that any move westward, you know, and Hitler was confident that the war, a war with France wouldn't be a quagmire, but just the same, you know, he knew there weren't the forces in being to fight off a Soviet assault

through Poland as the Reich was, you know, fighting in France. So this was very much a conspiratorial masterstroke of Stalin. I mean, no I'm going to be wrong. Stalin wanted to conquer the Far East anyway. But that timing was ideal, you know. and there was the forces in being arrayed such that it was a sort of a perfect opportunity, not just to humiliate the Japanese Imperial Army, but to telegraph a message of the world about Soviet military might.

And it was highly effective in that regard. Now, the speech that Stalin made re-outlined his plan for the conquest of Europe in the midst of, you know, a Western European civil war, the French national news agency, Havas. They obtained a copy of this by way of Geneva, presumably from, you know, their own spot. or from a friendly intelligence service. And it was published in early 1939 throughout France. And Moscow claimed it was fake and it was a forgery. And right up to the present day, incredibly, you'll find these dummy court historians and their apologists claiming that this was somehow,

a forgery by the French Havas agency and French intelligence by anti-communists. I mean, it's ridiculous. In the official party paper, Pravda, on November 30, 1939, Stalin himself finally came out and officially denied that the speech was made and reiterated this preposterous claim that it was some forgery by ant by fascists you know

this was demonstrated it was confirmed to have been a real speech by Stalin's official biographer who died only around 1995, and in 1993 he gave an interview where he confirmed for all time that this speech happened. The language of it was in fact transcribed perfectly in the document that was rendered by French Havas.

and that should have settled it for all time. But like I said, regime historians will simply argue by assertion and repeat lies over and over and over and over again. And they'll simply deny the evidence in rebuttal. But this is important because this became a major, there was a major stumbling block for the new dealers, obviously, as well as the war party in the UK. You know, it was beyond an embarrassment. It stood to represent a real crisis with regards to their mandate. But it goes to show you what kind of bully pulpit had been devised and erected in, you know, the U.S. and the U.S. and the U.K.

I mean, part of it was because it was the, it was a French news release, but even so, it, the ability to lock out and discredit conflicting information and facts that had a tendency to impeach official narratives is pretty remarkable. And in the case of the, in the case of the focus in the UK and the New Deal in America. but, you know, and Suvorov, to his credit, took up the issue of the August 19th speech, but it was Volkoganov. Volkogunov was the biographer in question who attested at the end of his life to the veracity of the speech. But, you know, it was on January 16th, 1993.

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yeah go ahead yeah a lot of people will say that like the um the gher the gauble's dry diaries or forgeries so you know why is in all of this forgeries as well because it's a non-argument it's like saying who forged the Gerbel's diaries. So what the Soviets did was they went to Berlin. They forged a bunch of documents. They put it in a Berlin bank vault. They pretended to discover it. They took it back to the Soviet Union.

The NKVD, later the KGB, they continued to pretend that Gerbils had written dreams of diary material for 50 years. They lied about this for no reason. Then David Irving also lied about this so that he could capture clout. Like what? There's this kind of stock and trade

of simpletons and idiots to just go around saying things are fake. You know, Hitler's second book is fake. General Patton's personal diaries are fake. Gerbel's diaries are fake. Everything is fake. Okay, I mean, I it's like me saying Donald Trump is actually of Jewish parentage. I can't prove that. There's no evidence to that. There's no reason to believe that, but I'm just going to keep saying that over and over again. See, Donald Trump is Jewish. Oh, you don't think so. Yeah, well, you don't know anything. He's Jewish. I say so. I mean, I can do that too. Okay. You know, the onus is on the declarant.

you know and again i what so the soviets from the business of just pretending that gerbils wrote these diaries i you know i don't accept that um because it's stupid but look kogunov he was stalin's official biographer um he confirmed in isvestia which was an organ of uh that constellation of NGOs, as I indicated a moment ago, dedicated to, you know, kind of truth and reconciliation about the Stalin era. He went public in Russian and European media. And he was adamant that the minutes of the August 19, 1939 speech that had been published in France, were legitimate. That speech happened. You know, and again, I'm sure

I'm sure these same defectors are going to claim, well, that's fake. Okay, fine, everything is fake. I'm an adult and I'm a white person. I'm not a white inward or like developmentally disabled, so I don't entertain that kind of stuff. But, you know, And there's a historian, this lady historian, Russian historian, T.S. Boussweva.

She undertook this broad scholarly evaluation of Suvorov's books, not just icebreaker, but kind of his entire body of work. and her account of his work product was mixed. She was somewhat critical in a punitive way. She praised other stuff, but she was adamant that the August 19th, 939 speech was legitimate. And she claimed that copies of the speech were, known to exist in the special archives of the Central Committee and the USSR.

And she made excerpts of it available to the public in December 1994. And there was this big deal. The publication was a big deal. And it was unveiled. at this conference of the quote memorial society that's the name that's the umbrella name of that constellation of NGOs I was talking about and uh this was on August 16th 1995 that uh was this kind of grand unveiling you know but they they and this might seem silly to make such a big deal about the release of historical documents.

But if you know about the Soviet system, I mean, this is a special case. You know, it wasn't an ordinary political system, and this document changed everything. Or it should have in the public mind, you know, because it's essentially a standing rebuttal to the entire court narrative of the war and its origins.

You know, so there's that too. So, I mean, again, where's the evidence that all this is being faked? Like, I guarantee you the Russian government wasn't happy about this. You know, I mean, that they still aren't. anybody who is fluent in Russia, they're welcome to proper evidence that this is all lectured main and it's fake. But obviously that won't be forthcoming. You know, and thus, getting to the kind of meat of the hostilities, you know, again, the Suvorov's, the core of his theory, you know, again, it's not just a matter of a discrete revisionist analysis of Operation

Barbarossa and which party combatant or combatants were, you know, the aggressor. It's far more of a broad spectrum analysis than that. and Yakut Hoffman agreed with this perspective, and I agree with it too. Not only was Stalin the progenitor of World War II, but World War II began on August 19, 1939, because that's the date when Stalin ordered the assault on Kalking goal. Japanese 6th Army was deployed there. Stalin ordered a massive assault. The Japanese were soundly defeated and eroded.

Marshall Zukov stated on August 23rd, 1939, you know, in reference to the Kalken Gull assault, as well as the non-aggression pact with the Reich, which had just been, you know, signed. Zuckoff said, quote, Stalin was convinced that the non-aggression pact would enable him to wrap Hitler around his little finger. Quote, we have tricked Hitler for the moment, end quote, with Stalin's opinion, according to Nikita Khrushchev.

Suvorov's take, which should be obvious, to those familiar with the historical record. The non-aggression pact on the heels of Japan being crushed on land in the Far East, Hitler believed then that he had to attack Poland to protect the frontier of the German Reich. He would not have acted without a guarantee of non-aggression because Germany wasn't in a position, to go to war with the Soviet Union at that moment. People were terrified of the Soviet

Union after it had just crushed the mighty Japanese army. So again, I mean, this is laughable, this idea that that Stalin, who had just crushed the Japanese army, who was sitting on the throne of a burgeoning superpower that constituted one-six of the planet. The idea that

Stalin was terrified of Hitler and comparatively tiny Germany. That's preposterous. You know, Molotov, you know, obviously was, you know, chief diplomat. His official title was

chairman of the Council of People's Commissars. Molotov spoke for the Supreme Soviet on October 31st, 1939. He said, quote a single blow against Poland first by the Germans and then by the red army and nothing will remain of this misbegotten little child of the Versailles Treaty which owed its existence

to the repression of non-Polish nationalities you know so again too the the Soviet nomenclature and especially Stalin they wanted to they wanted to crush Poland you know among other things the Polish Hunte was that think we cleansing Russians you know the Russians hated the Poles You know, interestingly, you know, again, this supposedly sacrosanic Polish democracy, it didn't bother the UK when the Soviets assaulted. That's interesting, isn't it? But so, and then, of course, too, within months, the Soviet Union assaulted Finland. you know so uh the uh if if Stalin was this uh isolationist um oh and of course meanwhile too uh you know the the Soviet Union was funding equipping arming and facilitating the communist revolution in Spain

which obviously had profound geo-strategic significance you know in the same period the Soviet had assaulted and conquered Poland, you know, they'd assaulted Finland and conquered Archangel, you know, and through the waging of these aggressive wars against Poland and Finland, and then, essentially, the extortionate annexation of the Baltic and threatening to assault Romania all of which gained

territorial concessions out of shot being fired because again, the Soviet Union's neighbors were incapable of standing up to its might you know so by this time by the eve of Barbarossa the Soviet Union had

expanded its territory by 426,000 square kilometers that was equivalent to the service of the entire German Reich in 1919 and in so doing, as Yaga Hoffman points out, Stalin had ripped

away in all buffer states on on Germany's frontier. So, I mean, Europe was defenseless, you know, in the east. You know, and obviously the time was nigh for an assault on Europe. And where Germany was as of 1940, despite Germany's initial military successes, you know, there wasn't anything Germany had done that Moscow considered particularly impressive or critical.

You know, that would have changed or altered Stalin's ambitions. Quite the contrary. There was no longer a chance of decisive victory against the UK because, you know, sea lion was a strategic route. the purpose of which was to deceive Stalin, by the way, not Churchill, which I mean, that's interesting in its own right. But the, you know, and as Stalin, who was already by that time, had hundreds of spies in the Roseville administration. He knew exactly what America was thinking,

and he knew that the United States was going to stand behind the UK. German forces were scattered piecemeal all over Europe. the German army was still dependent on, you know, on horse-drawn transportation. Germany wasn't even close to being able to realize a full mobilization on the order of, you know, 1914, 1915, even if there'd been the political will to do so. you know, the minute Germany was cut off from Romania, their army would have stopped in its tracks because that was, you know, their only source of vital petroleum. I mean, what would, even a layman looking at all relevant criteria and variables as of, you know, 1940, 1941 sees Germany in a position at catastrophic. vulnerability. So I mean, the idea that, you know, again, the idea that Stalin was afraid of Germany and afraid of its armed forces, I mean, that's preposterous beyond belief.

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You know, and just for, just for comparative purposes, between November 1940 and the day of Barbarossa, June 22nd, 1941, there's been a massive arms buildup underway since 1925, but this year and a half, or this half a year, I mean, between, you know, the winter on 1940 and summer 41, this was an unprecedented military buildup in terms of scale, scope, and rapidity. on June 22nd, 9041, the Soviet army possessed 24,000 tanks, almost 2,000 of which were T-34s, which were technically classed as a medium tank, but they were probably the best overall tank of the entire war. the Air Force of the Red Army since 1938 had acquired 23,000 245 military aircraft including 3,700 that were of the most recent design.

The Red Army had 148,000 artillery pieces and mortars. the inventory of the Royal Navy, in addition to its surface fleet, it had 291 submarines, which were an exclusively offensive platform. This meant that the Soviet Union had more submarines than any other country on this planet. They had more than four times the number of submarines that the Royal Navy did, which was the world's leading maritime state. I mean, this is utterly insane. You know, and it's unprecedented.

Like, nothing approaching this sort of scope, scale, and character of mobilization had ever been, contemplated, let alone implemented. So, you know, again, Germany, which is overcommitted, overstretched, outnumbered, engaged in a quagmire, not mobilized for war, like the idea that the Soviet Union, which again, had just succeeded in stripping away Germany's buffer states. in the east and uh that successfully conquered poland and um you know the territory had coveted in the arctic after you know an unprovoked assault on finland this idea that the soviet union

was afraid of hitler i mean like it's so stupid it it almost doesn't warrant rebuttal because it it's an exclusively bad faith argument but what the time we got yeah I'm going to wrap up there because I was about to get into the

some of the testimony or some of the commissars about the ideological culture of the Red Army itself but yeah I hope this was instructive to people sure yeah can't wait for part two. One thing that I would say is I think one of the reasons that the narrative on Spain

had to be controlled after the war is because if the Republicans would have won, Spain belonged to the Soviet Union. And you know, you could make the argument Germany should have never left after victory, but the Soviet Union in no way, shape, or form would have left. That would have been a Soviet satellite state, and they would have had Gibraltar. Oh, yeah. It's just like when the ideological descendants of these, of the traitors who fought for the communists in Spain, it's like when they support Islamic, it's like when they support al-Qaeda in Syria, they're like, oh, that's not al-Qaeda, that's these other guys who don't

actually exist or Democrats. It's like this level of, it's like this infantile level of delusion. I don't even think they actually believe that. There's insulting the intelligence of everybody else. Like, you know, the, oh, those weren't the communists. There was these imaginary other guys in Spain. Who? Like, what are you talking about?

There was this, there was this unusual coalition of syndicalists, fascist, phalanist, carless, you know, reactionary monarchist types. kind of secular nationalists you know that was who are you know referred to what's the nationalist side

I mean in as far as that may be this is kind of the umbrella term that's favored and there was the common turn and the Soviet Union and their proxies like there wasn't this other element there that were like gay feminist liberals

or like Ernest Hemingway's buddies who just love freedom or whatever delusion normies have. You know, it was a bunch of communists like Eric Milke, who were busy shooting priests and nuns in the face and torturing fascists to death and, you know, preparing to categorically exterminate anybody who wasn't educable, just like they'd done in the Soviet Union. And just like Bella Coons,

brief tyranny did in Hungary and just like the communist did everywhere that you know they were victorious in theater all right um well i'll i'll do your plugs for you um go to thomas's substack gets real thomas seven seven seven seven dot com uh go to his website that's thomas seven seven but the t is a seven right the first t is a seven and yeah you can you can find them sometimes on x under under his government name yeah you can link all that stuff from my you can read all those links are on my website so yeah and i'll have the links in the in the show notes as well so um thank you until part two um i really appreciate you doing this this is i think this is important yeah likewise thanks for hosting me thank you

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