The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1288: Cracks are Beginning to Appear w/ Aaron from Timeline Earth

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

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back to the Pekanino Show. Aaron's just right back here like, you know, like a good co-host. Hey, what's happening, Aaron? What's going on, man? happy to be here well what we talked about last time uh yes got a couple reactions from that that was uh that was interesting also on on tim kelly short tim kelly show our interesting times shortly after that we talked a little more about that one of my favorites you like you like tim yeah he's cool as hell man um you know i'm fascinated by con ink mostly because con ink is, you know, the enemy. But when the enemy starts doing things that seem out of place

and seem like something that they wouldn't do, I take note of it and I take an interest in it. Now that it's giving me any hope or anything, I just think it's real interesting. And it's like a mirror of what we're seeing in, of what we've been seeing for a while now. there's certainly some glimmers of hope, certainly some opportunities,

certainly some risks. What we do know is, is that these are people who don't, they're not operating in our best interest or operating in other people's best, they're operating in their own best interests, the best interests of their donors, the best interests of their,

their constituents, wherever they are. And, you know, if, If change does happen and it happens to benefit us in some way, well, good. I won't counter signal too bad if someone's looking to take down, or at least put a message out there that I think is a message it needs to be heard. So you want to, you want me to play this video from Kevin Roberts of the Heritage. Foundation that, I mean, conspicuously, I mean, is it coincidental that it happened right after Tucker Carlson interviewed Nick Flandis?

Oh, no. I mean, that interview enraged a lot of people and people that most likely didn't even watch it, didn't need to watch it. And I remember for the week prior to that, there were. rumblings that it was going to happen and people were already working themselves up into a frenzy over it. Yep. All right.

Let's play this. This is interesting. It's two minutes and 39 seconds. I'll just play it all the way through if you want me to stop or pause at any time. Tell me to. I'll have more to say on this in the coming days. But today I want to be clear about one thing. Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti-Semitic.

And of course, anti-Semitism should be condemned. My loyalty as a Christian and as an American is to Christ first and to America always. When it serves the interests of the United States to cooperate with Israel and other allies, we should do so with partnerships on security, intelligence, and technology. But when it doesn't, conservatives should feel no obligation to reflexively support any foreign government, no matter how loud the pressure becomes from the globalist class, or the or from their mouthpieces in Washington. The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone

of the conservative movement by canceling our own people or policing the consciences of Christians. And we won't start doing that now. We don't take direction from comments on X, though we are grateful for the robust free speech debate. We also don't take direction from members or donors, though we are inherently grateful for their support.

And we're adding more every day. This is the robust debate we invite, with our colleagues, our movement friends, our members, and the American public. We will always defend truth. We will always defend America. And we will always defend our friends against the slander of bad actors who serve someone else's agenda. That includes Tucker Carlson, who remains, and as I have said before, always will be a close

friend of the Heritage Foundation. The venomous coalition attacking him or sewing division. Their attempt to cancel him will fail. Most importantly, the American people expect us to be focusing on our political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right. I disagree with, and even abhor things that Nick Fintas says. But canceling him is not the answer either.

When we disagree with a person's thoughts and opinions, we challenge those ideas and debate. And we have seen success in this approach as we continue to dismantle the vile ideas of the left. As my friend Vice President Vance said last night, what I am not okay with is any country coming before the interests of American citizens, and it is important for all of us,

assuming we are American citizens. to put the interest of our own country first. That's where our allegiance lies, and that's where it will stay. All right. So was there any one word? There's like one word in there that really stood out to me. Do you have any idea what word I'm talking about? When he's talking about prioritizing the interests of America first.

Well, there is one, no, there's another, a single word he says before that. No, do tell. He uses the word globalist. Hmm. And your audience might know that globalist is a substitute for another word. Well, I mean, that's the thing, is exactly, you know, he says, oh, we abore anti-Semitism and area like that.

I mean, anti-semitism. I don't, I hate the term anti-Semitism. I prefer Jewish aware. You know? Judeo-aware. Yeah.

The, well, you were talking about the comments. So, apparently Nick got the, got the comment, first comment in here. And he says,

I don't know what exactly you abhor about my views, but we can all agree the free speech, Christ in America First should be the pillars of our movement. Thank you for your courage in standing up for open discourse and defending Tucker against the Israel first woke right. Yeah, he had to be a little bit bitchy, but overall, uh, very positive. Yeah.

He can't help himself from being just a little bit bitchy. Yeah. Well, Briggs says, well, I'm amazed, amazed and quite cheered. God bless. the shrieking class won't take this quietly. Stephen Wolf says Patriot. Ava Petruji says, when we disagree with someone's thoughts and opinions, we challenge those ideas and debate.

It's shocking how many people on the right have forgotten this. Sandra McDonald, my respect for you, just shot through the roof. Dissinent media. I think this is Michael Heiss, actually. Well said, meltdown from neocons incoming. There's a Mel, Village Crazy Lady. It's one of the greatest at names on Twitter. Village Crazy Lady.

This is a great statement. Thank you for addressing this. Clint Russell, good for you. Thank you. Our buddy Brandon Harnish Patriot. So what do you take away from this, you know, defending Tucker and it coming from Heritage? I was a little bit taken aback, you know,

knowing what I know about Heritage, Project 2025. And their relationship, their recently strained relationship with Tucker, if I'm not mistaken, they went through and kind of washed their sight of him fairly recently. You know, they went in and kind of removed him from a lot of mentions, a lot of credits. It makes you wonder, you know, if Kevin Roberts had the sanction of Heritage to do this. It does. It begs the question, what's going on in the office? Is there a firefight right now? Is there, you know, are we going to get some leaked GCs from them? Well, I've, yeah, I was told at the beginning of last year that there were a lot of divisions in heritage, especially in the boardroom. Yeah. that some people wanted Project 2025 to go through.

Some people were saying it, you know, it went too far. People were saying it didn't go far enough. You know, there was a lot of, a lot of talk. You know, and Project 2025 was made, you know, was part of, you know, I'm sure people remember last year. Maybe they don't. Project 2025 was the boogeyman for the left. Anytime they wanted to bring something up during the campaign,

It was Project 2025. But there was a part of Project 2025 that was kind of, at least it gave me concern. It was Project Esther, combating anti-Semitism and trying to treat it as like a national security threat. And, you know, the former libertarian in us always says like, you know, How is this going to affect me knowing what I've posted on my timeline? But so far, it's really just been selectively enforced on, you know, higher education, pro-Palestine activism, you know, all these institutions and people that, you know, if you need to sick the FBI on them, like, I don't think we have very much to say on it.

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and Tucker has become such a pariah, you know, why this video was put out, because Tucker is just not stopping. I mean, he's going full in. I don't know if you, what was the, what was the thing that I saw the other day that was, I'll see if I can find it. But when he was, when he was interviewing Colonel Douglas McGregor, he said something recently that was, Douglas McGregor said something. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to find it now.

someone to posted it up in my supporter chat. But it was basically like, let me see. I mean, to paraphrase them in the Fuentes interview, he said straight up, he despises Christian Zionists. He thinks that they're heretics. And he basically liked to see them ejected from, you know, ejected from the discourse, which, you know, I can't help but really respect him for saying that in front of, you know, his entire audience, I'm sure is a mix of a lot of different factions. Still.

Here, let me play this. This is he was with Colonel McGregor, and this is a short clip from his interview with Colonel McGregor who, who is naming them. I mean, it's just openly. And hold on, let me see. Yeah, let me play this if you haven't heard this. Why don't any politicians in the Congress put the open-air drug market in Philadelphia above the threat of Hamas? Well, I think you have an answer of sorts. And it comes interestingly enough from Mrs. Machado.

She's the lady that just won the Nobel Peace Prize, and she's from Venezuela. And she said, if we're liberated by the U.S. armed forces and they remove Maduro, our first act will be to move the Venezuelan embassy to Jerusalem. What does that have to do with, I'm completely confused. Like, what? She's hit on something very important. She's figured out where the power lies. And she's playing to the audience that makes the decisions. I think we can pretty much conclude that we're ruled now by a small group of extraordinarily wealthy people. billionaire oligarchs those are the terms they use in eastern europe in places like ukraine yeah i think they're in charge i think they're calling the shots well that's interesting yeah you don't you don't have to be a genius to read between those lines and that's that's kind of what

tucker tucker's function is he has a lot of normies that really like him still and uh Even to the most boomer waffin Maga hat guy, you don't have to read between the lines too hard. Yeah. I mean, it just seems like if Heritage wanted to disconnect from Tucker completely, that video would have sounded a lot different. Mm-hmm. You know, that, I mean, it's easy, you know, Nick is a, Nick is a boogeyman that any, you can use to dismiss anyone who's ever talked to him. Although, I mean, basically everybody's talked to him at this point, except for like, Rogan and Lex Friedman. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, he's been on Glenn Greenwald show. Yeah, he's, he's starting to moderate. He's starting to realize that, uh, you know, they're. his whole thing is like, all right, they put these 10 second clips of him on TikTok, which causes all kinds of reaction videos and all kinds of outrage from the usual, you know, left or center media outlets. And he's just a foil for why we can't have any type of discourse. And he, I mean, fairly recently has kind of become self-aware on that.

that and is desperately trying to moderate. And we'll see, we'll see where that goes. Well, you know, it's like I've been trying to tell people lately, you know, the part of the right, you know, that that's knows the JQ and is very important. They're literally, they literally act like libertarians in that they think that the only way that any of this gets solved is they have to wake everyone up. By smashing them in the face with a hammer. You are not allowed to be a normie.

There is no transition period. Like here is a 9,000 point post about, you know, naming them and going through the entire history of the ethno-religion of Judaism. And every single time that, you know, every single time. going through literally every single time. I remember this plan by the Mises Caucus and the Libertarian to take over the Libertarian Party, run Dave Smith as president because he delivers the message very well and he's a good debater and, you know, very presentable so that, you know, they could redo the Ron Paul moment.

They need to wake people up. They need to, you know, if you, if we just deliver the message perfectly, everybody will want to become a libertarian. And that's the same thing on our side. If you just deliver the message perfectly, everybody will become woke to the JQ and become a radical. And that's literally impossible. Yeah. Nope. Everybody's different.

The way you reach, I mean, you have to know your audience and you have to know, individuals in real life. The most success I've had is just with individuals in real life. Like this,

my coworkers are like blue collar Catholics. How do I wake them up to, hey, you know what? It's, it's,

your, your unconditional support for Israel is, uh, neither blue collar nor Catholic. Or American. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But you just have to know your audience and know what buttons to push to kind of at least get them to think. And I've, I don't know, I think I've made a good amount of progress in my very limited sphere. My contribution is a tiny droplet of water in a giant bucket. If you just do what you can to help people realize exactly how the world works, they can better navigate. it. So they don't have to become, they don't have to become radicals in order to be, you know, in order for your, for your goals to be achieved. No. If I can just get them to be apathetic, that's progress.

Yeah. Or to, you know, or if you, if they understand exactly how the world works, they can better navigate it. And that could be to their benefit. Yeah. Yep. So there's this other conservative thing I found that this is from the American Conservative magazine. And this was dropped on the same day that Kevin Roberts dropped that video. And it says, title of it says, and this is by Daniel Boguslaw, FBI uses secret threat category for Israeli criminals operating in the U.S. did you know that there were Israeli criminals operating in the U.S.?

I had an idea. I had a vague idea. The FBI's growing list of domestic threats has mutated in recent years to include every conceivable affiliation of Americans across the political spectrum, right-wing violent extremists, left-wing violent extremists, black identity extremists, and animal rights extremists. The current administration has even added nihilistic violent extremists. Those who believe in nothing, believe in nothing, Lubowski. We believe in nothing to the laundry list.

The Biden administration, for its part, aided in this exercise by vastly overstating the threat posed by Trump-aligned conservatives in the wake in Jan 7. But neither Democrat nor Republican administrations has ever grandstanded about another significant group threat that the FBI secretly monitors on U.S. soil is rarely based organized crime. syndicates or ibox that sounds serious like if you call it a syndicate that i assume they have some power yeah i i would assume too i mean knowing knowing the little bit of history i know about organized crime you mean that it's that it's not italian yeah it's very little to do with the irish and italian mafia leaked fbi records and court filings detailed widespread money laundering, taxpayer theft and drug smuggling enterprises. Drug smuggling. Isn't that beneath them? I thought that was more Chinese.

Operated in the U.S. by Israeli citizens connected or belonging to Israeli crime groups. Despite the trickle of prosecutions over the past 25 years, the FBI has never publicly disclosed the fact that it has designated resources allocated to investigating Israeli crime organizations. 2020 FBI intelligence report from the Blue Leaks hack conducted by the Hacker Group Anonymous and archive of the nonprofit DDoS Secrets describes iBox operating in Nevada and Florida embezzling money from the PPP from PPP loans Nevada and Florida I know you're shocked right yeah yeah like did they did they change their name to Israeli like how IBOX have defrauded U.S. government relief programs and manipulated tax documents since at least 2015 to reduce tax liability and conceal money laundering activities as well as have access to companies and agents which are necessary to process PPP loan applications, the report found.

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The report also lists instances of iBox committing both disaster relief and tax fraud and notes that iBox are involved in money laundering, extortion, illegal gambling, fraud, and narcotics trafficking in Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, and New York, according to FBI investigations. No, no, no. I'm sorry. It's the next part talking about the visa loopholes. Yeah.

As far back as 2009. leaked State Department cables obtained by WikiLeaks detailed one of the reasons why criminals belonging to are associated with Israeli crime families and syndicates have been able to operate inside America with ease. The State Department is not authorized to block their visas. You think Marco Rubio is going to close that loophole? The cables warn of the Israeli mafia taking on a greater role in. in the American trade of ecstasy and the loophole, which prevents US embassies

from automatically denying Israeli crime figures travel documents. Oh, man, that threw me. While the State Department has formalized powers in its foreign affairs manual to restrict visas from Chinese triads, Japanese Yakuza, the Italian mafia, the Hells Angels banker gang, outlaws, Dinos, Mongols, and two dozen Latin American gangs, including Trend de Aragua,

Israeli organized crime groups remain absent more than a decade after the State Department cable first warned of the Israeli mafia loophole. I will remind people, the reason we're reading this is this would have never, if this would have been put out by like, you know, Occidental Observer or something like that. I probably would have just read this and forgot about it. The fact that is put out by the American conservative on the same day that Tucker, you know, that Kevin Roberts from Heritage puts out that

little message. I mean, who the hell would have thought? Yeah. That's that the visa exemptions just destroyed me. I don't know whether to laugh or cry or get angry, but like an exemption carve out for known criminal, like organized crime members for every country, every group in the world, except this one. Well, when you take into consideration, you know, one of their people got arrested, caught up in a sting in Las Vegas trying to solicit a 14, 14, or 15-year-old and then the um the state's attorney acting state's attorney appointed by trump just let him go i mean this is just yeah law enforcement was instructed to let him go right to not pursue

correct yeah all right um just wanted to make sure i didn't get that wrong so going on given the volume of trade travel and trade between the united states and israel it is not surprising that Israel OC organized crime has also gained a foothold in America. One cable reads, the consular section has revoked several visas for those who have been convicted of crimes in Israel, but many organized crime figures have no prior criminal convictions and carry no visa ineligibilities. As a result, many hold valid non-immigrant visas to the United States and have traveled freely and attempted to travel for a variety of purposes. A former FBI special agent who worked on investigations involving ibox told the american conservative quote there is real israeli

organized crime in this country and there's a formalized FBI program for investigating these groups adding that they look for the success of other criminals and then try to build a better model on those he also said quote once you move beyond that and your target becomes more sophisticated they are presumed to be intelligence operatives and operatives of the Israeli government, and then that gets moved high side in the National Security Division. Yeah. Yep. A sentencing-

None of this is surprising, by the way. Oh yeah, I mean, it's just who, the ones who research this and put it out is the surprising part, but the information is still good for people to have. Yeah. A sentencing letter for an international narcotic smuggling. case prosecuted in the Southern District of New York hints at this reality, referencing the iBox designation in connection to an international ecstasy smuggling conspiracy. Quote, the defendant engaged in internationally laundering narcotics proceeds as part

of an Israeli-based organized crime syndicate. In addition to his demonstrated ability to launder drug money across borders, he also possessed ample global connections in the narcotics trade and access to narcotics themselves. That sounds like anti-Semitism. Yeah, that sounds like we need to send $15 billion more. Can we just add that to their aid package? A second former FBI agent pointed to the recent West Coast indictment of, quote, a suspected high-level member of an Israeli transnational organized crime group running an illegal poker game in Hollywood.

Quote, it's no secret that politics inevitably shapes enforcement priorities the agent. said, explaining why the Bureau has never highlighted its ibox enforcement. Quote, that has not been a popular thing to wave around in the press, which is why you see a steady stream of prosecutions related to Israeli crime figures without the same discussion of organization you might have with cartels or gangs. So basically, no RICO. Yeah. Like, I mean, let's let's, let's.

say that the FBI as an institution exists in a vacuum and is not captured by any interest, any ethno-religious interest. What do we do with this? Like, I mean, is there any chance that like we can close this loophole? I mean, I know the American conservative isn't like, isn't a giant think tank or anything, but this seems like a slam dunk, especially now. It's, if there, let me just, let me act like a normie conservative or a normie maga guy. Well, if they're not going to go after Epstein, why would they? Yeah. Yeah.

True. All right. There's only two more paragraphs here. So politically unpopular is criticism of illegal activities by Israelis that repeated espionage efforts have been swept under the rug, or at the very least, restricted from public view. In 2019, Politico reported that intelligence officials suspected Israel was behind the placement of cell phone surveillance devices planted around the White House and in other locations in Washington, D.C. According to the report, the Israelis were not sanctioned with a formal reprimand from the state

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I don't remember who it was. It was a Brit. It was like, I remember if it was Starmer or Boris Johnson, who like, one of them like said that they, Benjamin Netanyahu was over their house and they caught Benjamin Netanyahu trying to leave something in their bathroom. They can't help themselves. I mean, it's every single time.

Oh, God. Last paragraph. Another potential reason for the lack of visibility of iBox is the changing face of Israeli politics and the increasing proximity of organized crime figures to the ruling Lakud party. Ten Lakud officials chose to spend the Jewish holiday of Sukat with convicted mobster Rafi Haim Khodashim this year. In the past, members of Israel's mafia families elected to parliament.

on the Lekud line have attempted to use their positions to quash investigations in organized crime. The FBI did not respond to the American Conservatives' request for comment about the current status of the Bureau's iBox investigation. I guess Cash Patel was too busy trying to get someone to email him, Bob's in Beijing. Yeah. Yep. I mean, this is, but you know, I mean, All right, there's a lot in here that a lot of people wouldn't know and everything. But I mean, the American conservative, why would they put this out? Yeah. I mean, it's a good sign.

Yeah. You know, we're in a tough on crime phase right now. And I guess you could frame it as that, but you know, you're still going to be investigated for anti-Semitism. Here, I got another one. for you. There we go. This is from RT, so, you know, we know it's not real. This is from yesterday. U.S. lawmaker accused of sex tape blackmail. Dalia Ahtar became the first Orthodox Jewish woman to serve in the Maryland Senate this January. U.S. federal officials have charged a Maryland Democratic State Senator with extortion for allegedly mastermining a blackmail scheme involving

secretly filmed explicit videos, according to an indictment unsealed on Thursday. Dalia Atar, who was first elected to the Maryland House of Delegates in 2018 and was re-elected in 2022, became the first Orthodox Jewish woman to serve in the Maryland State Senate earlier this year. Court documents alleged that Atar devised a plan to stop a former employee from speaking out against her 2022 re-election a bit, re-election bit. Prosecutors say she conspired with her brother, Joseph Hattar, and Baltimore police officer, Coleman Finkelstein, who had worked on her campaign. I mean, well, first of all, would.

Oh, man. It's just, there's no conspiracy. I mean, how can. RT be this anti-Semitic? I thought that Putin was owned by the Jews. It actually says that prosecutors say she conspired with her brother and Finkelstein who had worked on our campaign. I mean, that's anti-Semitism. When they're gaming this out, I have to wonder if they ever consider like the implications of what happens if we get caught? How is this going to make us look? Like for how much in-group preference they have, like, do they consider the consequences to their reputation as a whole when they get caught for shit like this?

Like, it's just insane to me. Or, well, here, I mean, this is actually pretty promising. I mean, People Magazine picked it up the Baltimore Banner, the Washington Post. So it's not like it's being hidden. You know, it's not like the only place you can read about it is in RT, but do they care? I mean, no, they don't care. They're used to being able to get away with doing whatever they want. Look at the article we just read.

Yeah. The contingency is, all right, where this is not going to be in any media outlet that anybody cares about. And if it is, then they're anti-Semites. So it says starting in 2020. they worked to threaten the ex-employee into silence using covertly taken videos of her in bed with a married man. The court documents alleged. According to WhatsApp messages cited in the case, Atar said she wanted the ex-consultant to be a non-issue in my mind. She was only doing this for her mental health. Yes. Quote, two years later, she is still looking to screw me badly,

even more reason why the lady should be afraid to come out with anything at any point, Atar was cited as saying. The group allegedly conspired to follow the ex-consultant's movements using a tracker on her loaned car and to secure intimate videos of her with her lover by installing cameras disguised as smoke detectors, the documents say the victim was staying in an apartment owned by Finkelstein's family at the time So they're landlords? Are you fucking kidding me? I can't. I can't. The truth is so, so anti-Semitic.

It's ridiculous. The indictment says that Joseph Atar, the brother, later approached the ex-consultant's lover to threaten them with the release of a video and demanded she stay out of this election. All three have been charged with extortion. wiretapping and other offenses and face a sentence of at least 20 years of convicted on all accounts. Do you want to take a bet as to whether any of them do one day in jail? I'm talking about like after sentencing. I'm sure they have spent a little bit of time in Johnny jail.

What color is the judge? Well, in this case, some weird kind of Turkish, um kazarian oh no sorry oh god yeah i just a they're they're probably gonna get off and uh i just for how prolific anti-semitism alarmism is right now um they have to have some better contingency of what happens if we get caught. I don't know, man. I mean, what's the one word they said? What was, what did they say in here? There was something in here that made me think that like this was intern. They worked to threaten the employee using covert of bed court documents according to alleged, oh yeah, according to alleged WhatsApp messages cited in the case. Using WhatsApp makes me,

in the United States makes me think they were communicating with people overseas. The only time I ever use WhatsApp is to communicate with people overseas. I use signal for everything here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is a good point. Like, why? Yeah.

That's the only reason you have a WhatsApp when my brother went to India and ended up getting dengue fever and almost dying. Like, that's the only reason why I got WhatsApp. did he get a chance to at least like take one dump in the street i mean like when in rome right he got sick like within an hour of being in india he had the most stereotypical india trip ever he actually went there like for for a mission and um yeah he got sick as soon as he landed um and then within a week got dengue fever uh transported the u.s consulate um They flew him to Hawaii.

Hawaii couldn't do anything for him. So they flew him to California. And like in the meantime, he's just dying. Dude. Why would, did he, why did he go to India? He, my, my brother has lived like 12 lives. He's 26 years old. And he's been all around the world.

He has, he's actually in Singapore right now. you know he complains about how like I'll never afford a house I'll never be able to like find like a normal woman and live the American dream like every zoomer and then like he's just like I'm going to go to Europe for like a month and just like live in hostels he knows he knows people all around the world but he went to India for I think like a because he just wanted to go and see it this was this was a couple years ago so before India was what we know it to be now. We kind of knew what it always was, but now we definitely know.

But yeah, so he went there just like with a mission, like a Christian missionary group. And yeah, it was like his ticket to just go there. So I guess we'll do this last one. This is this one actually came out today. And you sent me this one. So you can comment on this one why you thought this one was so important. I'll start reading. So Fyodor Fyodor Likianov.

Yeah, Lukianov. As the U.S. and China collide, other civilizations prepare their own course. The era of polite globalization is over and civilizations are back. So I think we're going to have some. Aaron wants to talk about serious stuff here, guys. Everybody strap in. The well-worn business phrase push and pull neatly captures the essence of today's U.S.-China relations.

What once looked like a competitive partnership has hardened into a contest of wills, power, and identity, one that will shape the global order for years to come. For much of the late 20th century in the first decade of the 21st, the dominant Western assumption was that the world was moving toward a liberal, universal order. Economic interdependence, global markets, and a single rule set were supposed to smooth away historical grievances and cultural differences. In that vision, civilizational identities, the deep structures of tradition, culture, and worldview were treated almost as relics. That era is over. The liberal order began to crack long before Donald Trump entered the White House,

but his arrival made the rupture visible and irreversible. As the old framework faltered, the pendulum swung back toward identity, difference, and civilizational self-assertion. The question now is not whether this shift is happening. It clearly is, but how the world will function within it. You got anything? No, I think it's a pretty good encapsulation of what the last 40 years was like. were just rocketing towards this ideal of, I mean, I'll say global government that was

supposed to make everything, you know, you'll own nothing and like it. And that was never meant to be. And I don't think, I think regardless of whether Trump came about or not, it was destined to fracture. It just so happened that the United States, that U.S. politics were the catalyst. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November.

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It's that whole thing about, you know, Trump the man's not important. It's what he represents. I mean, I know that that's almost a cliche at this point, but I think there is a lot of truth behind it. So the next section is titled, the Trump effect. George W. Bush once promised compassionate conservatism. Barack Obama framed power in eloquent multilateral terms. Trump dispensed with such packaging. Unless in a year in office, he changed not only American diplomacy, but global expectations,

the global expectation surrounding it. Washington, under Trump, rediscovered a bluntness that previous generations tried to bury under layers of institutional polish. Part of this is personal theater, his brusqueness, his disregard for protocol, and his habit of airing grievances and demands in public. His supporters view this as refreshing authenticity, a break from the professionalized hypocrisy of the establishment. His critics call it dangerous. Either way, it has been effective in forcing other players to adjust. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's actually a little bit later in this article, but the way he describes just the mode of our foreign policy and our diplomacy as like just, very polite layers under just extremely complicated bureaucracy. I think that perfectly encapsulates like the Obama era. And I could never really articulate to Normies like, you know, why was Obama bad? He seemed like such a nice guy. He was such an eloquent speaker.

And like, that's actually the problem. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy to hide behind form and, you know, form. and I guess, I don't know, a nice brown suit. His only scandal. Form dictates substance. Peace through strength, long core American formula now translates into coercive bargaining,

tariff threats, open blackmail and public humiliation of rivals and allies alike. The administration has embraced this as a governing philosophy. Diplomacy is a battlefield. Hesitation is weakness and courtesy is optional. In a cultural sense, Trump resurrects a caricature Europeans once drew of Americans, brash, self-assured, contemptuous of nuance, convinced that power is the most honest argument. The Farmer Republic instincts that 19th century observers attributed to America, confidence of one's rightness, suspicion of subtlety are back on display.

Trump is proud of this, and whether one likes it or not, he remains. leader of the most powerful country on earth. Everyone must factor that reality into their strategies. Yeah. There is a paradox here. Let me finish this part of this section. There is a paradox here. Trump's bluntness, while abrasive, can be easier to deal with than Washington's more polished

double speak. As President Vladimir Putin has implied, it is simpler to negotiate with someone who states his demands plainly than with a smiling technocrat who buries intent under abstractions. But bluntness without proportion is dangerous, and Trump often treats diplomacy as if it were a television stage, where escalation is drama rather than consequence. Yeah, it's that paragraph, you know, for the last 40 years, or at least prior to Trump. I mean, Washington's more polished, double-speak. It's simpler to negotiate with someone who states his demands plainly than with a smiling technocrat who buries intent under absolute. distractions. That's what that's what we've had our entire lives. That's been our foreign policy.

Everything needs to be layered in like this flowery language, conciliatory language, but, you know, we'll also drone strike you. I think that's why Trump likes someone like Lindsay Graham. Lindsay Graham comes right out and just says shit. Yeah. I don't like the homo, but. It's going to say, like, take your pants off, boy. Direct to the point. Well, I mean, about bombing other countries and just, I mean, it's just insane. A different civilization.

The most revealing contrast to this style is China. In raw capacity, Beijing has either reached parity with Washington or will soon do so. That makes it America's America's. that makes it America's primary geopolitical rival, a structural fact that transcends personalities. Culturally, the two powers cannot be more different, where Trump prizes dominance and spectacle, Beijing values continuity, disciplined patience, face-saving compromise, and a belief in gradual managed evolution, whereas we believe more in gradual managed decline. China entered the global system expecting mutual benefit and predictable rules that did not expect

and doesn't particularly like the American turn toward open intimidation. During Trump's first term, Chinese officials hope this was a passing phase. Trump's second term disabuse them. The pressure is heavier, the confidence greater, and the provocation is more deliberate. China has responded in kind, abandoning its previously understated posture for sharper language and reciprocal signaling. Beijing is learning to answer bluntness with bluntness, though it does so reluctantly. It is still culturally uncomfortable with open confrontation, yet the leadership understands that the era of polite strategic ambiguity is gone. This phase, coercion versus resolve, threat versus counter threat, is no temporary disruption.

It's the new normal. Push, pull, and the new order. The future of U.S.-China relations will follow a rhythm familiar to business negotiators. Pressure, pause, partial deal, breakdown, repeat. Each side will test how much harm it can threaten without tipping into disaster. Washington will push first. That is Trump's instinct. Beijing will push back, no longer willing to absorb blows silently.

This is not a new Cold War. It is something more fluid and unpredictable. Today's world is not bipolar. It is a system in which other major actors from Russia and India to regional coalitions in the Middle East, Eurasia and Latin America will assert themselves. but the central axis of what that I disagree with him here. I think that all of those regions he just mentioned are going to come under the auspices of either U.S. hegemony or Chinese hegemony, and that's going to be the great power competition.

What do you think of, I mean, saying, I mean, I would like Russia to be our friend. Yeah. But, I mean, that doesn't seem to be. you know, with the people who, you know, with all the ethnic, ethnic Ukrainians in the, in our government. Yeah. The, uh, I think the best we can hope for is that Russia is simply just not, we're not antagonistic. Yeah. That would be best.

Yeah. But essential. Historically, I don't think like, And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the U.S. and Russia have historically been friends, per se, but certainly not enemies. Definitely been friendly at times. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for Alaska.

Yeah. But, you know, I was recording an episode this afternoon, and we were talking about, you know, like the future of Europe. And we basically said if the future of Europe is not going to be Islam, then. Europe is looking at two things to solve that problem. One is going to be a race war. Yeah. And two, they're going to have to have detente with Russia. Yeah.

De taunt with Russia. I mean, but you still think they're going to be a pan-European super state, right? Yeah. All right. Yeah, I think. Well, I mean, who, who Russia? No, no, Europe. Um, I, yeah. Well, I mean, I, if Russia falls, if they fall under the influence of Russia, then, um, I think it'll be very much like a, a very watered down version of, um, East Germany was like. Yeah. You still get to, you still get to be German, but, you know, you're basically our partner because, you know, you're a, you're a peninsula that has no natural resources. And we have them all. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But you have manufacturing, so you know, you can help yourself. You know, Europe can help themselves, at least in that. Yeah. But I mean, there's going to have to be a big, you know, there's going to have to be a big shift in Europe before that's even consideration. And I think the race war happens first. Do you think the race war happens if deindustrialization happens first? Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the North. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say online or in person. So together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community.

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I mean, remembering what little I do about Pat Buchanan, he had always said that, that the entire system of globalism is based on, on interdependence being a stabilizing factor, but it's actually the exact opposite, because you have civilizational, cultural, religious differences that cannot be overcome. Right. Yeah, we had a long discussion about that this afternoon to how Christians can no longer live alongside non-Christians. Yep. I was just thinking about it earlier. you know, the nationalism part of being a Christian nationalist and the tendency for Christian

nationalists to wander away into internationalism, especially with what's going on in certain sub-Saharan African nations right now. Yeah, you know, and I mean, we have a common enemy. We need to defeat, and any non-Christians who want to join in that fight I'm good with, but after that we're just going to have to we're going to have to figure figure something out yeah after trump trump will not remain president forever and china itself is evolving a calmer phase may follow or tensions may sharpen even further the decisive variable will be will not be ideology but power distribution that's what it always is right it's never ideology i mean ideology is the excuse

ideology can be, most of the time, ideology is harmful, but power is where everything is at. Civilization identity, civilizational identity adds depth to the contest, economics and technology, give it urgency, leadership styles determine the tempo. The only certainty is that we are witnessing a structural shift, not a passing quarrel, globalization's most ambitious phases over, a world of civilizational players, sometimes cooperating, often competing, has arrived, and the relationship between the United States and China will define its contours more than any other single factor. And I think that's pretty hard to argue with at this point.

Yeah, that's what drew me to this article, is it just perfectly summarized the past, present and future. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, talk about. a couple things where you know it's really just stuff that needs needs to be isn't really um isn't really applicable until the occupation regime is defeated but you know in the meantime if if you are if you're one of those people who understands that the best way right now is not national politics

because you're not going to fix national politics, but local county and state, then you really do have to think about who you can start thinking now and planning and talking about who you want to live around and who you don't. Yeah, the only contribution we can make to national politics, realistically, is just leveraging on the margins. As a movement.

Helping us to try to burn faster than it could possibly could. Yeah, and just letting our elected officials know that come election time, if you are not taking us into account, then you're not getting our vote. Doesn't mean we're going to vote for your enemies, but, you know, that's something that Fuentes has figured out. I don't know successfully or not. But it'll be interesting to see the midterms and the next election. Yeah. Well, I think it's one of those things where a lot of people are going to threaten with their vote and not even vote.

Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, it's really at this point, at this point, it's more important for you to vote for your school board, your school board and your mayor and your, your sheriff than it is president of the United States. Yeah. At least you, at least you can know them and know where they live. Yeah. Just see,

just so you can take them cookies on the holidays. Spoken like somebody that lives in Alabama and not Massachusetts. Yeah. Oh, no, Aaron. You're fucked. Well, you know, that's where your people are from, man. It's kind of hard to, it's kind of, I know I tell people, you know, if things are getting really bad, get out, but I also understand people,

you know, people's culture and people's family and where they're from is really important. So it's hard from, you know, that's, you know, I try to just say, you know, you got to just do what's best for you, you know, your family. Yeah. You know, if you're raising kids, like if you're raising a kid like you are, being around family is important. Not only because you have built-in babysitters, but you know, you want your kids to be around their family. Yeah, you have to trust that your enemies are too incompetent and also not bring too much attention to yourself. Unfortunately, that's the best I can do.

Yeah. All right, man. Let me get out of here. Everybody go. So Timeline Earth released a 10-and-a-half-hour Halloween episode. Are you anywhere on it? I am. I am actually on the last segment.

Okay. I haven't gotten that far yet. Good. Good. Good of you to put some time in over there. Yeah. I still think I've recorded with you more hours than I have with TLE in the past three months. Oh, I'm certain, like you've recorded more with me in the,

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