The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1318: Embracing Reality w/ The Thought Crime Syndicate

Episode Date: January 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:02:00 But let's do this. since Jose has been making the rounds on pretty much every show because he's the Venezuela expert. Jose, what's on your mind? Really just how chaotic things are getting these days and how the political class really isn't doing much to push. back against the post-World War II order on both foreign policy fronts and also
Starting point is 00:02:40 domestic fronts, whether it's fully restricting immigration and actually getting rid of the civil rights revolution rolling that back completely. And I just see a reversion to neo-conservative tropes
Starting point is 00:02:59 or just Reaganite tropes and just a completely distracted government. And also So I'm definitely looking with interest of what's happening in Minneapolis as well. So you have a Jewish mayor in Jacob Fry that is just calling for people to abolish any form of immigration enforcement. So we're just seeing a breakdown. And that's one thing I'm more concerned with is just the fact. that there's no real serious action from DC or whatever to implement meaningful reforms to fully roll back some of like the stuff the legislation and other policies that have hurt the US for decades if not a century or so and that's what I'm mostly kind of talking about and obviously like the whole Venezuela thing I just gave my perspective on that and how
Starting point is 00:04:04 I just think that really, if you want to actually have any form of legitimate security and a restrained foreign policy, you have to end the invade the world, invite the world consensus that has governed us since end of World War II. And that requires a thorough overthrow of the ruling class because frankly, these people, they have very different priorities from the people that have. elected people like Donald Trump in office and other politicians that claim to be populace. So that's what one theme I'm trying to convey here. Do you think that they're with Jacob Frye doing what he's doing, and then, you know, there's a bunch of right-wing Jews that are calling for border control, quote-unquote, right-wing Jews? I mean, these are left-wing anti-Trumpers, you know, just a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:01 do you think there is like a split in Judah right now between some on the left and some on the right stipulating that even if they don't even if they aren't conspiring together when one does when one side does something it always seems to work out for the other side strange how that happens yeah I think what is happening well I mean if you look at David from for example he's actually historically said stuff like hey democrats you guys need to stop pushing all this open border stuff so radically or else you're just going to create a backlash but there's always a bait and switch because it's like it's like the civil rights revolution that once that whole process was initiated after let's say like eight to ten years
Starting point is 00:06:01 and the black golems start flirting with pro-Palestine stuff, they'll be like, the organized jewelry will be like, okay, we need to pump the brakes on this and just consolidate our gains because we have golems that could potentially turn against us. And I mean, in the case with organized, with action of organized jewelry that's talking about border control, in many respects, they're kind of doing that for tactical reasons, because when you just have an insanely open border for more than like multiple decades, you're going to provoke a backlash and the best way to consolidate those gains
Starting point is 00:06:35 after you've let 30 to 50 million illegal aliens in is to at least concede shutting down the border but but then start talking about legal migration opening up the airways to so-called skilled migrants whether it's like South Asian Pigeets or striver class
Starting point is 00:06:56 West African migrants like those types and that's what I think is happening because there's always there's always a poison pill with what they're proposing like they may concede ground on saying okay we'll shut down the border and stop border crossers but then they'll then open up a new front to replace elites or aspiring elites with new gulums because if you look at for example a lot of young professionals under the age of 40 whether they're right wing or the left wing, they are starting to question jury, especially this is very pronounced, especially on the Democrat, liberal or progressive side where any pundit below the age of 40
Starting point is 00:07:42 is going to be at least pro-Palestine. So now they have to just start directly electing Jewish representatives. You see this especially at the state level with governors that have like disproportionate Jewish representation and even senators where they can't even trust their golems anymore. And on the right, it's also starting to happen, too, where the amount of Judeo-Scepticism has risen mediocratically since October 7th. So the organized jury is engaging in multiple
Starting point is 00:08:14 rear-regard actions across the political spectrum because there is a torrential wave of anti-Semitism, Judeo-Septicism, anti-Zionism, forming. Everybody else got anything? Oh, it's just richly deserved. I mean, what's her name? The absolute psychopath from New York State used to be the UN ambassador.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Stepnia, at least Stephanie. She stepped down from the governor's office or the governor's race because a Jew's running. Right. Like there is no, right? Everyone knows that, and you wrote about it recently, Pete, like everyone knows that we live in effectively, what is it, pedocracy? from aside. What other conclusion can you come to?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yeah, you know, it's it's rather difficult when you see, you know, Jose's work on, you know, just exactly how, you know, the Venezuelan opt was probably the people who are going to be most, most benefit from it are going to be, you know, what Jose loves to call Panjuda. The, then you look here. and it's like, okay, we need remigration like yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It's a fix everything switch the kids have been naming about. Yeah, you look at ICE and you're like, okay, this isn't what's going to do it. What's going to do it is basically arresting, arresting mayors, arresting governors, arresting judges, and taking away the protections from these people so that they remigrate on their own. Yeah, I hate to say it this way that they don't feel safe being here. And once you you see that and you're like, okay, that would be a great thing. It's like, okay, and then we're still occupied. Right. Well, yeah, just two things real quick. And then I'll shut up and let Charles and does he talk more? Tyler Oliver, God bless him, did that. I mean, all four of us knew about
Starting point is 00:10:25 Karyas Joel right in New York and there's all kinds of other acid, you know, hatcheries all over America where these people don't work and they and they don't contribute anything. And of course, the Somali fraud is a thing. To be a citizen or a republic from all the way back in ancient India where there was all white to, you know, modern times, you know, to being of America, to be a citizen of the republic, you had to basically fulfill three or four criteria. You had to be a, you had to be You had to be a member of the tribe. You had to, like, the same blood as everyone else. Occasionally, you could let it in a foreigner, but it was exceptional.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You had to obey the law. You had to pay taxes, and you had to serve the state in some fashion, whether that was military or something else. Okay. All of these people, whether the Somalis, Haitians, Cic Jews, lots of different types of Latinos, they don't make these criteria. They need to have their citizen strip shipped, or stripped out, and if you're a public charge, you need to go home. And the thing to do isn't these, you know, four show ICE operations. The thing to do is tax remittances at 90% to remove any welfare from these people and to throw the people who employ them in jail, all of which is against the law now. We have public charge laws.
Starting point is 00:11:56 We have remittance tax on the books. It's just like 1% right now or something. And it's already illegal to employ illegal aliens. Once you start doing this, they'd all go home on their own. Oh, I guess the free ride's over. We'll go home. We didn't like it here anyway. It's too cold.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's too white. These people complain when we play regatona 3 in the morning as they're a natural wand. You know, I mean, like, They don't like it here. That's why they try and turn everywhere they are into where they're from. Yes. Well, and as you said, and I'll use your words, and I understand we need to use them carefully. You do need to make them feel unsafe.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And that's not necessarily meaning threaten them with violence, but it is cutting out all their support. Remember, one of the most punishing things you can do to a man imprisoned is put him in solitary confinement. That will drive people. crazy and you're not doing him any physical violence. I know I'm speaking very technically here that it's still emiserating somebody. It is still causing one to suffer. But that's the whole point. And as somebody who has worked in the field for close to a decade, just tried to get back in, succeeded in getting back in and jumped out in record time because I saw what an absolute dumpster fire it is. The American public would be shocked, appalled, and up in arms if they witnessed
Starting point is 00:13:31 what I did just this week. But I'll pass over that. I'll lie it over that for the moment. And I'll say the drum that I have been banging for decades since I first came up with it in 1998 is remember, most of the world views America, not as a country, but as a strip mall. They come here, get what they want, and send stuff home, and then eventually go home to retire. And they use all that money to live like kings wherever they're from. I'm not sure if I said this when you and me were speaking, Pete, on one broadcast, one of your live broadcasts, we were talking about immigration. But one of the biggest times for self-induced remigration in the United States, the biggest time of the year is around Christmas and why is that it's because all the South Americans go home to see family and when's the
Starting point is 00:14:27 highest rate of illegal immigration again right after Christmas so they can come back here and understand most of these people's money when they earn it a significant portion of it goes back to foreign countries that's the whole point so as Dee said all you have to do is take laws that are already on the books and enforce them maybe maybe turn the dial up on them a little bit, maybe. But I would say, one, admittedly, is it would have to be cranked up to 11, but it's still not changing any law in and of itself. Just a, an application of it would be just the remittances. Sure, tax them up to 90%. You would be shocked at how many people would leave just because of that. Because again, this is a strip mall. You don't have to escort these people out.
Starting point is 00:15:20 have to make them unable to afford the goods in it. They'll leave themselves. There's nothing interesting about a strip mall except what you can get from it. And if you can't get anything from it, there's no need to go there. And you'll find these steps in and of themselves will start to have the problem solve itself. Now again, there will come other necessities, I'll say. I will absolutely say that. But the easy start is simply use what we have. For example, where are all our sedition laws? Why aren't they being utilized? All these mayors talking about, I find a bitterly ironic and humorously ironic that a lot of these people that in any other context, if we were discussing the Civil War, they would call the Confederates, traitors, betrayers, disloyal, and they got what they
Starting point is 00:16:16 deserve by getting stomped out by the north for wanting to separate, for wanting to do their own thing and for denying federal troops. Yet, in the last 10 days alone, they themselves have said forego any kind of federal government intervention. Get rid of them. We don't want them here. They don't belong here. Fight them. Fight them. I mean, I know no one here is surprised by their hypocrisy. No one is. And then I'm not saying, see, look, look, see, they're hypocrites. That's not my point. My point is to simply say that they know they're guilty of it.
Starting point is 00:16:55 They just know no one will punish them. And we need to punish them. And I'm not even saying punish them extra legally. I'm saying use the power that we have. And the irony is, and I'll close here and let somebody else take the floor. The irony is the real reason Trump is as popular as he is, is he's the first president in my lifetime. to actually use one one hundredth of the power that he was given to change things for the better.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Now, we can say that he didn't do enough. We can say that he's doing it for Israel. We can put a million qualifiers on it, but that does not change the fact that he is the first one that has at least dipped his toe in the usage of executive power for the benefit of a significant portion. of the native stock of this country, the European stock of this country. It's just talking about it, about talking about doing it, not even actually doing it, but just talking about it is what has these people freaked out and ready to commit treason and ready to commit insurrection. Because the last person to actually try and do anything, you know, they impeached him and he resigned. And that was half a century ago.
Starting point is 00:18:15 so for half a century Donald Trump was the only person to actually even talk about using the powers of the federal government for the actual citizens of this country and that was enough just talking about it, not doing it, not cracking down, not, you know, killing people in the street
Starting point is 00:18:39 and whatever all these other people are talking about, just talking about like actually doing his job and these people are freaked out. Right. And there's a reason for that, D, and we both know what that reason is. The reason is because once that spicket turns on, the flow is only going to get faster and harder. It's not going to turn off because once people start realizing, wait a minute, we can just do things to use the colloquialism. Then, and not only that, once you start convincing the civic nationalists, yes, they're a plague, I know.
Starting point is 00:19:13 but as I'm very fond of quoting, our list of allies grows thin. Once we get the civic nationalists to realize, wait a minute, these are already existing laws, we can just use them. These are all already illegal. As I pointed out on Twitter, not long ago, maybe a month ago, Tops, which I guess is a long time for the Internet, but not long ago to me, I pointed out, and people were misunderstanding my point, but I pointed out, illegal immigration is not just hopping over a fence. Did you lie on a form?
Starting point is 00:19:49 You're an illegal immigrant. Did a company lie for you? You're an illegal immigrant. Did you fake a relationship for somebody to come in here? That person is an illegal immigrant. We're not talking about just jumping a fence. If we actually just used the law where it says, if you're lying on this form, then you are denied the benefit.
Starting point is 00:20:10 it i i promise you there wouldn't be more than 2 000 people of indian of indian nationality here wouldn't even be 2 000 in the whole country because either some company lied about lied for them some family member lied for them or some combination thereof lied for them just that alone they lied about their college college college degrees they're exactly they lied about their educational credentials. People forget that again, this is a drum I've been banging for a long time. Illegal immigration is not just somebody swam across the border. Somebody jumped a fence. Illegal immigration is way bigger than that. You would be amazed, amazed how many people you could legally just say, oh, we investigated your form and found out this company didn't need you.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Boop, your citizenship's gone. Your I-551's gone. Your H-1B's gone, et cetera. All of it. It's gone. Get on the plane. Go. I think the will is there.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And I think the will is there amongst the people. But it just seems like at every turn, the administration is not willing to cross the Rubicon and do what needs to be done. The remittances thing is the easiest one. I mean, they could do that by, he could do that by, um, executive order tomorrow. The, but, you know, but the problem is, is crossing the Rubicon and also being somebody who worries about your own legacy. And, you know, there, there really is.
Starting point is 00:22:11 the opinion amongst a lot of people. And I'm pretty sure I share it. I mean, sometimes I'll be like, that Trump wants everyone to like him. Like even those shitty people that he grew up with in New York City, you know, the shit lives and, you know, the Jews, he wants them all to like him. And he doesn't seem to.
Starting point is 00:22:41 want to take that final step. He's willing to go and fuck around in another country because no judge is stopping him. No, you know, no, no, no Jew is saying, don't do that. He's willing to threaten Iran, but he's not willing to do what needs to be done with someone like Tim Walls or Jacob Fry or just the people on the street i mean i saw a video i saw a video today from minneapolis guy was walking down the street with a um he had a hoodie on that had an american flag on the back of it and like the there was just a crowd that bullied him into taking it off this wasn't a white dude this was like obviously an immigrant of some sort what some sort and he eventually said you know yeah i mean they broke into an ice vehicle the other day and stole a rifle.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I'm going to go. Yeah. Well, and they only found the guy because he's got face tattoos. This is there. I saw a video of a guy who was just driving an SUV. Apparently worked for the press. He got surrounded by a bunch of shitlibs. And they basically bullied him like, well, you need to rent another car. You need to drive something else.
Starting point is 00:24:04 You can't drive an SUV around here. Look at all the. This is, this is pathological empathy to the point of like, suicide and we can't live with these people. And the fact that the average person understands this and then the government doesn't. And I'll go one step further. Pete, it's not just Tim Walls or Jacob Frey or Kathy Hokel or what's the new governor of Virginia, whatever, like Spamberger. Like it's, it's, it's hot wheels. It's it's Greg Abbott. It's Ron DeSantis. They're just as implicit as these other guys because they're not doing their job.
Starting point is 00:24:47 You know, if you took the Constitution's claim seriously about providing a federal form of government, then you wouldn't let illegal immigrants vote in your state. And you would complain about non-citizens voting. And you would do something about auditing your Medicaid books or your public schools and making sure that taxpayer dollars did not go to people who were there illegally. And yet, I guarantee you, without even looking, I guarantee you an audit of the state of Texas could find $5 billion being spent on illegal immigrants in Texas easily. Oh, absolutely. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And not even like anchor babies who are born here as citizens and technically, no, like, I guarantee you there are. Yeah. Easily. Texas. Texas is going to be, is going to be Canada. Texas is going to be Ontario. Because they're just,
Starting point is 00:25:53 Indians are just flocking in. Yeah. Right. And, you know, they're putting up their fucking, you know, their,
Starting point is 00:26:03 their statues. And they're, their demonic temple, you know, temple, you know, Temple of doom. well and just because this is my wheelhust and we kind of talked about a little bit um Pete if you had a guess what would you say like the worst two types of environment to like operate
Starting point is 00:26:30 any kind of construction project are environment I mean you saw weather like climate like yeah yeah climate well I mean I would I would say cold freezing snow and probably like desert conditions. Well, you're right on the first one. You're wrong on the second. And then the two worst are the Arctic and subarctic and Antarctic and the worst. And the worst, second worst is the jungle. And for lots of reasons that I won't get into here.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I have experience operating in both those. I've been working in and around the mining and energy. sectors for a long, long time in and around. And all this tough talk about, oh, we're going to take over Greenland. You think the Danes don't like money? You think they like just having these 50,000, 60,000 Eskimos that do nothing but soak up welfare and molest their sisters? You think, like, the Danes, right?
Starting point is 00:27:40 They couldn't put together a mine. they couldn't of course they could it's just really hard everything runs off diesel diesel turns to jelly when it's negative 50 outside it's uh you know metal fatigues you know people can only be out for a short amount of time everyone's got to be bundled up like the michelin man you show even a flash skin yes freezes off it's fucking awful and you've you've live in the south i don't need to tell you Imagine Houston, but like worse. And if you're in Venezuela, everything rusts in like no time at all. Everything rots that the, you know, moss.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It just makes everything very, very difficult. Food spoils. It's without AC, it's just impossible. And, you know, oh, Venezuela is a failing state. Well, the only place that they don't have a functioning electrical grid. Well, because you sanctioned them in Siemens, the only guy that actually, the only people that actually make the transformers that a modern electrical grid requires, you said that they couldn't buy any.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So yeah, they have a failing electrical grid. They couldn't afford maintenance on their oil infrastructure for the last 10 years because Jews sanctioned them. Because, you know, Hugo Chavez said some mildly critical things about Jews after they killed a bunch of kids. And Jose can speak to that more than I can. I mean, strong allure everyone to follow his substack and listen to all the stuff, different stuff he's been talking about because he's been burning up the airways lately.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But, you know, we're doing all this stuff, you know, I mean, I guess the one side benefit when Trump destroys NATO, but we're not sovereign over Baltimore. We're not sovereign over Minneapolis. We're not sovereign over Texas, Houston, Texas. We're not sovereign over New York City. Why do we fucking care if Newark Greenland is Danish? Who fucking cares? It's insane.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Baltimore's, what, 40 minutes down the road from Washington, D.C.? And it's not an American city. well i mean you know that's exactly what i've been saying ever since the venezuela thing um i've gotten uh people say um oh this
Starting point is 00:30:26 the only reason i'm like well what the fuck are we doing what venusuela is because i used to be a libertarian the libertarian priors or what is yeah i'm uh when i was a libertarian i was saying yeah why the fuck are we doing this for zog that's exactly what i was saying fucking retards um yeah yeah another one you know another one is like um oh i yeah i just love brown people really i deport every fucking per i would deport everyone you know i'm a i'm a little darker than um than than uh most but not really i mean anyone who's ever met me has been like
Starting point is 00:31:09 oh oh but um they're all gone venezuelans Mexicans, Guatemalans, Indians, Filipinos, they're all gone in a heartbeat. How the fuck does Venezuela? How does Venezuela have anything to do with that? I need to cheerlead Venezuela to prove that I care more about this country, that I care as much about this country as somebody else. How about you go fuck yourself? I think it's funny that people say that about you, yet how many? times have we set on this program we should be the darkest people in your neighborhood like how many times have we how many times have we made that joke and and how many times have i said i think
Starting point is 00:31:54 you and d have laughed and agreed with it is like okay we'll take 60 days of uh you peeking out your blinds at us to make sure that we're not not up to no good we'll take 60 days of you got to you go slowly driving by the house to make sure we're keeping the area clean okay you got 60 days we'll deal with it And then after that, we're wanting, you know, it's okay. Just leave us be. We're just like you. But how many times have we made that joke? Two, three, easily on this program.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Easily. Dude, I've had my, I've had my politics. Yeah. I'm sorry, but yes. I've had my politics attacked. I've had my character attacked. I've had my Catholicism attacked. All of this.
Starting point is 00:32:39 All of it. Because, because, you know, I don't want Paul. or, you know, to have billions more than he has already. I want to strip him of every fucking dollar he has and send him to the fucking desert. Well, he should be in Leavingworth. He destroyed Sydney, Nebraska. I think it was Sydney, Nebraska. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Tucker did a story about it. Like, this is a man who is malicious. He hates Americans. He promotes sodomy. He uses his ill-gotten wealth to undermine other nations. He's he's you know if if if doing something bad in another country It's grounds to like round people up and take all their shit Why can't Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping be like?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Paul Singer is a bad person who does bad things and so we're gonna like arrest him Right like if that's the standard we're saying the real sovereign Yeah well he came and um fucking Jonathan Greenblad at the ADL, right? Like if, you know, conspiracy against free speech, John and William, Brad, like, admitted to it. Like, this is not. And to your, to one quick point, Pete, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:53 there is under Catholic just war theory, and I'll be talking to doing that about this next week on my show. No intervention we've undergone in the entire 21st century. Passes the test. the Afghanistan one kind of sort of did at the beginning but you have to have a defined goal of like what's the goal of this war is it just like show up and just like randomly kill people like that's not just there is no you know okay so under Catholic principles like none of these wars are acceptable under you know libertarian or under you know constitutional like this isn't like where's Congress did they pass a law did they declare a war no okay so we're just going to randomly kill a bunch of people because Jews want us to? Like, under no circumstance, can I think of a single good reason other than like Team America World Police type shit of like America, fuck yeah, that this is any kind of good
Starting point is 00:34:57 idea. I'm like that was supposed to be a satire, guys. And then, and then they want to be serious policy proposal. And now that we're going to war, like every war is not only for Jews, but going war. like Jews, we're going to war like Jews, then it's like, oh, well, you know, you got to cheer on, cheer on when your enemy, you know, make fun of your enemy right down to, right, right down and then dance on their grave. That's not what white men do. That's not what Europeans do. That's what Jews do. You're acting like a fucking Zionist. You're acting like, you know, the Jews that made t-shirts
Starting point is 00:35:34 for, you know, shooting pregnant pregnant women in Gaza. That's never, been what white people, the way white Europeans celebrated their war victories. They went home and they celebrated it, but they also respected their enemies. And it's hard to respect your enemies when your enemies are not deserving of respect. But still, you have to have a fucking higher standard. And just declaring anyone your enemy, I mean, like literally, like, I had people argue with me saying, oh, you like commies now? Are we still fighting the Cold War? Is this what Thomas says? He goes to military. It doesn't even really work anymore because it's still fighting the Cold War. Are we still, people still fighting the Cold War?
Starting point is 00:36:28 Is Maduro? Is Maduro a commie? Why isn't the Communist Party of Venezuela like 100% behind him? How come they think he's a piece of shit? So I don't, I don't like Maduro. I I don't really, I shouldn't even know he exists in the first place. But they have resources. Jews want resources. Jews control our government. Those resources have to be ours, quote unquote, hours. And I'm, I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to, rah, rah, look at our foreign policy and everything.
Starting point is 00:37:11 while everything's turning to shit here. No motherfuckers. Until you get shit fixed here, you can't, this is the whole thing that I've always said. I say, you people are like, well, our country needs to be taken back. What can I do? First thing you got to do is fix your house. You can't expect to go out into your neighborhood and fix your neighborhood if there's something wrong with it until your house is fixed.
Starting point is 00:37:37 You got to get your shit in order before you can start. looking outwards and as a country sure we fucked up outsourced shit to china you know basically allowed the jews to declare war on russia who should be our natural ally yeah there's a lot of problems there but those are problems that should be handled diplomatically the military shit should be happening here yeah sorry to say no no i agree 100% as a matter of fact that's what i've been talking with and i won't drop names or anything but that's what i've been talking with federal officers and military guys it's one conversation that keeps coming up repeatedly and i'm going to draw on d's point as well you know leaning on i can't speak personally of it but leaning on governors not doing their
Starting point is 00:38:31 jobs and state officials not doing their jobs a lot of guys in law enforcement federal and local and the military, they're all lately very much thinking about their oath, specifically federal, where it says protecting the United States from enemies foreign and domestic, foreign and domestic. I took that oath years ago. I took it again recently, and I take it very, very seriously. And a lot of our guys are like, hmm, that's my oath. That's the oath I swore, and that's the oath I want to uphold. And we've got plenty of domestic enemies. Why aren't they being officially identified?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Why aren't we being mobilized to get them? Because again, I'll go back to the point I raised earlier. I am not saying do anything extra judiciously. That is not what I am saying. I'm not calling for that on this public program. I am saying we already take that oath. There is already a definition of domestic enemies. Okay. So let's go to war with them. Let's do it. I agree with you, Pete. That's exactly where our arms, our forces should be deployed against domestic enemies.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I agree with one of the points that was raised before about how you don't really need to do some intricate restructuring of the government or implement a novel system to fix these problems. because ultimately we already have the laws and the books, the bureaucracy, and the mechanisms in place to get things right. The issue is the one of who is actually the sovereign, and under the one sovereign principle, what we see is it's organized jury. It's a hostile sovereign that has very different types of interests in mind. And sometimes they may use clever marketing and other strategies to enlist the resources and assistance of Gentiles. but they ultimately are going to a different destination from us. And that's the big challenge is to effectively topple this sovereign that is a domestic threat for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And that's how you set things right because you don't need some of these problems aren't that complicated to begin with him. There's no need to reinvent the wheel, especially when there are plenty of anti-terror legislation on the books, anti-racketeering and all that to bust up these NGO networks and other bad actors that promote mass migration, never anything
Starting point is 00:41:12 wars, cultural degeneracy, and other social maladies. So, you have to get rid of these hostile actors effectively. Well, aren't all these transnational drug gangs already designated
Starting point is 00:41:28 terrorists? Like trend de Araagua and the Mexican cartels and correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they're all already designated and so every every dude with a face tattoo that says I am part of a transnational gang of killers why can't you just like oh hey they looks like a terrorist I believe some of them are I mean my my I will confess
Starting point is 00:41:54 outright my knowledge is is woefully woefully ancient but I know groups like Los Zatos and others were yes Well, and how hard would it be to just classify them as such and then round them up? Oh, well, that would be easy. I mean, that they're committing terrorism. They're killing people for political reasons in Mexico. They're killing people for political reasons in the United States. It's not difficult.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Right. And again, all you, that's you're once again, Dee, you and me were saying very similar things, if not the same, which is, that's my whole point. Just all we have to do, and thank you, Jose, for the. the support. Like all we have to do is use what we have on the books. All we have to do is just get somebody to have the courage to say X is now classified as a terrorist group. X is now classified as a domestic enemy. Why is now classified as a domestic enemy. That's it. And then you just start moving. I know it sounds like I'm oversimplifying things, but I'm really not. I'm really not.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Look at what they do. Again, look at what the FBI has been doing to citizens. Look at what they did in January 6th. These aren't even people that were officially classified as anything. They were simply arrested and thrown in prison. And did anybody get punished for that? No, nobody got punished for that. And I mean, why exactly?
Starting point is 00:43:23 Because they just used the powers they had. They just found the loopholes they had. Our enemies are willing to do it. We didn't even have to cheat. Just play by the same rules. Say, okay, we found a way to make you prosecutable. We found a way to imprison you. We're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:40 That's it. That's all there is to it. But as you said, Pete, maybe Trump just wants to be liked. And that's a problem. I can understand the human compulsion wanting to be liked. I want to be liked. I want all of your listeners to like me. But that's not a reality.
Starting point is 00:43:54 That's not going to happen. And I'm certainly not going to sacrifice my principles. to be liked. Do I want them all to like me? Sure. But am I going to change myself to be liked? No. And I mean, and I'm a nobody. Who am I? If I have wielded power, that would be even worse to be want to be liked. To change myself, to change my course of action, to change my... I got to disagree with you, Charles. I don't want these people to like me. Okay, fair. Right. I said, Pete's listeners. I didn't say, I didn't say everybody. I said, I want It beats listeners to list.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But these people, yeah, the people complaining about the freedom of, of, you know, Nicole Good and she deserves, no, Nicole Good was bad, actually. And it's a positive, it is a positive good that she got got. Because she was an enemy of all decent people, of white people, of civilization, of America, of, pick your thing. This woman was an enemy of it. And the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, You still don't have to celebrate your enemy's deaths.
Starting point is 00:45:06 That's what Jews do. I'm not going to dance on a grave and celebrate. I'm just not going to be upset when bad people have been bad things happen to bad. Right. Exactly. And the people who want to complain about, well, you're a bootlicker now and you're going to grow up. Grow up. This is not a game where like, oh, Pete beat me at chess.
Starting point is 00:45:28 and so I got to buy him a beer. This is, do we have a country or not? Is there a civilization or not? Are we on the verge of nuclear war? Now, maybe it's hysterical. Maybe it's crazy. Maybe it's just some old boomer nut job. But Tucker Carlson interviewed Sergey Karadanov,
Starting point is 00:45:49 who was apparently some sort of political in Russia, and maybe Jewish, I don't know, talking about how if the Ukraine war doesn't end, Russia's going to nuke Germany and England. that involves Article 5. That means worldwide global thermonuclear war. And as us children of the 80s will remember, the only way to win is not play.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Okay. Like this is not fucking a game. Okay. Vladimir Putin, bad guy, killer. Say whatever you want about him. He's not a fool. And he's serious. You do not get appointed KGB of Colonel of the KGB in East Germany in 1987 by being
Starting point is 00:46:34 nice guy. You get there by being a serious, serious dude. And his country was in the dumps in 1999 and 2000. And he brought it back to where it's one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Moscow is the biggest, nicest white city in the world. And if this Sergei guy who was on Tucker, and I strongly urge everyone to listen to Tucker's monologue, it was fantastic about why we, I think was deeply deeply wise what Tucker had to say. But if that's what actual Russians are thinking. They have the world's biggest nuclear stockpile. They have a country that spans like 10 time zones. They have all of natural resources in the world. Not some of them, all of them. Why are we letting a bunch of resentful, stettled Jews who are ass mad about a program from 1648
Starting point is 00:47:39 drag us into a war that might destroy the whole world. If you don't understand what time it is, and that there's no living with people who are more upset about Vladimir Putin defending actual Russians in the Dombas, than their neighbors getting killed by drunk Mexicans, and that they care more about the rights of Somalis to steal taxpayer money,
Starting point is 00:48:17 than little English girls who get raped by foreigners. There is no living with these people, and they cannot have power and they cannot vote, and they cannot have any responsibility for anything in the public. They can't be in government. They can't serve on juries. They can't be teachers. They can't be in the media. They have to be rooted out, root and branch and resticated, as Charles Haywood says.
Starting point is 00:48:48 They need to be picking turnips in Nebraska. Yeah, but that's, I mean, what's your, missing is that we took out a Latin American dictator. So, you know, what do you, what do you, what do you what do you ask mad about? I mean, like literally. I mean, people it's like I said this and privately people are telling me I'm right. These people have like, you know, especially the ones who are like weren't even of age for for Trump number one. They're like they've never had a win in their lives. politically and they see this as a win and it's an and they like treat it as an extension of them like like somehow they won something no no the occupied government the occupiers won something
Starting point is 00:49:45 the occupiers won something tell me what you won well our paul siger's bank account won something yeah yeah well we're safer safer from what cocaine came through cocaine came through that's the main thing that came through Venezuela that may have been facilitated by Venezuela. Okay. You know where
Starting point is 00:50:10 most of that cocaine is going to? New York City, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, all the shitload places. Do you think they're going to do without their cocaine? All they did was switch distributors. But yay. You got your win.
Starting point is 00:50:27 You got, Yay. I mean, I've seen this fucking, I'm so old. I've seen this movie over and fucking over again. It's like, you know, it's like now, oh, well, Iran, we'll have regime change in Iran. And then, you know, we'll have, what? I've heard this before. Dude, there are people like celebrating this who were like completely against Bush's wars. Oh, no, but this is different. This is in our hemisphere with an occupied government, right? These people think that, like, I mean, has it the quote unquote deep state, the administrative state, has it been dismantled?
Starting point is 00:51:14 No. No. It's got worse. Just as Charles. It's 10 times worse than it was in 2001. I mean, this is ridiculous. There are people like, you know, who, who, they. They believe that because they know somebody who works in the administration or they have people that are talking to people in the administration, that the government works for them.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I trust people in the administration. I am not at all, at all, thinking that, oh, you know, because I know some, I know a couple people in high places that the government's working. for the government's working for me are you fucking read how retarded do you have to be to believe that you may know somebody who's going up to Washington DC and talking to people that you're in charge that they're working for you that's you're a child if you believe that and it's childish thinking and you need to grow up because this is what i'm hearing don't disrespect Trump. He's the commander in chief.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Okay. And if you're 25 years old. Do you know the thing, do you know the things that I've does that mean I have to take back, you know, like calling Obama the N word for eight years? Because he was the commander in chief. Grow the fuck up. Leave your fucking house.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Kiss a girl. Well, Pete, I don't take political advice from pacifists and I don't take social advice from a dude who's never talked to girl out of her underwear. So for most people, this would probably just, like, if you haven't met that basic standard of competence, I'm just not going to talk to you or take you seriously. But if you're 25 years old and you're desperate for Trump to, you know, to win one,
Starting point is 00:53:26 you need to understand three things about Donald Trump. One, as Pete said, he wants everyone to like him. So the way you get him to do things you want is not like him. He treats his enemies better than he treats his friends. Look what we did to Jeff Sessions in the first term. Look at what we did to Marjorie Taylor Green in the second term. This is not a man that is loyal, is a great friend. Now, everything's a business transaction with this guy.
Starting point is 00:54:04 So you treat him like an enemy. You constantly say, that was nice. Now give me more. Okay. Second, I sympathize very deeply with, you know, Yuzumar kids who were born in the late 90s or early 2000s, and you've never known a functioning insane society. I mean, I'm old, so I remember one.
Starting point is 00:54:26 But if you want that back, if you, you know, want 80s vibes back and, you know, PIPVipers and America and whatever, the first thing you need to do isn't support. Donald Trump, it's support the Americans that are getting screwed by Donald Trump. Yet gas is a little bit cheaper, great. Woo. It was only minorly bank breaking when I had to fill up my truck. There's not going to be a solution out of Washington because Obama and then Biden after
Starting point is 00:55:23 him purged the entire federal service of anybody who was remotely competent or had the right ideas. And Trump did nothing about it. Trump should have fired everybody above Colonel. Colonel and above should have all just been fired, but he didn't. He left those people in. And what did they do? Nothing. Because they're on the team. Every, every federal agency is full of people. We had someone in the Secret Service betray the vice president for Christ's a fucking a an immigrant yeah they have immigrants protecting the vice president and you're and you're trusting the plan the fuck is wrong with you well who do you think runs us c i s the immigration naturalization service now who do you think runs that that's all foreign born border patrols almost all
Starting point is 00:56:30 foreign born yeah border patrols full of mexicans yeah they get that they they're They are, they are the, it is the fox guarding the henhouse. Well, and the judges, right, we live in a, we live in a, we live in a Jewish oligarchy, but to the extent that we have a formal government structure, it's all a criteria. And of, of the, I was talking with someone who's in a position to know, I'll just say that. Something like at least 20% of our federal inmates are illegal immigrants that have committed, like, violent, you know, like murder and other violent crimes, right? So you're a foreigner who commits
Starting point is 00:57:11 a violent felony American soil. You should just be executed. But the judges who would hear that case, they are at least 50 percent foreigners and women. Very often foreign women. You think that you think that Judge Laquanda Johnson from, from Jamaica, you think she's going to like render a sane verdict? Or is she going to be like, well, he needs a pat on the head and maybe he needs to be told how to be American. In America, we don't like rape, kill and Eden, not necessarily in that order, you know, innocent 10-year-old kids. I'll never forget it. I was talking with Charles a couple months ago or like last year. There was a, um, the governor of Oklahoma, whatever his name is. He's like the worst Republican, the worst Republican governor in America.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Are you talking about Stitt? Right. He commuted the sentence of a guy. who committed like literally a cannibal murderer and then commuted the sentence, black guy, that guy got out and then like committed murder again or something like that. It was some awful, awful thing. I can't remember exactly the details, but it was stuck in my memory because it was so terrible. Okay. This is an ostensible Republican. Trump's bragging about all the first step back.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Oh, look at all these criminals that led out of jail. How many people have been killed in America? It's not one. It's not none. by all the criminals that Donald Trump let out because he wanted Negroes to vote for him. And did they vote for him? No. But he's always chasing them. You know, as Aramagena put it recently, where's the stuff that the evangelical white Christians who vote for Donald Trump get? Like, they're the, they're the only demographic that's loyal to him.
Starting point is 00:59:16 What did they get? What, what's, what's, what's, what's in it for them? Where's the patronage? If you want my support, where's the fucking. patronage. Because the other side, the other side, they get patronage. Why isn't Pete running a think tank for a million dollars? No matter who you vote for, you get Jonathan Greenblatt's agenda. A hundred percent correct. Thank you, Jose, for putting it much more succinctly than I could. Just an addendum to the woods rule. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And apparently laying out the reality that was just laid out last year and the reason why people voted for Trump is blackpilling. When you put it on the line and say, you know, I voted for Trump because I thought Trump would be better than Kamala. Pretty much, end of story. That's it. I figured I had a better chance of no one breaking down my door with Trump than with Kamala. Questionable nowadays, considering who the faction that won out that was warring for his attention. But all the things, you know, like, oh, there are no Epstein files. Oh, the Democrats made it up.
Starting point is 01:00:55 It's a Democrat hoax. Oh, there are Epstein files. I mean, Gerald Cooper said something once that I, maybe the smartest thing he ever said. If when Jeffrey Epstein died in his cell, Americans didn't march on Washington, D.C. And do whatever needed to be done
Starting point is 01:01:22 to end this government? no one's coming to save you because that should have told you Americans are not in charge of the government and you can just look at this administration and be like I don't think Americans are in charge of this government there's some paperwork Americans there are some fake dual loyalty but we also know dual loyalty just means one loyalty there only as Ben Shapiro said his loyalty to the this country ends when they stop being loyal to when this country stops being loyal to israel so what's changed sure some great things have been done some band-aids have been you know put in place where's the change where's the lasting change coming from where is the hope of lasting change
Starting point is 01:02:16 coming from they sold out the the whole industry the economics of this country to china Then they financialize the country to the point where really, if you want to get rich in this country, you better be able to know how to play the market. Because it's not like you're, it's not like you're going to get a job unless you're going to be a CEO of something that's going to give you the kind of wealth that was promised, you know, that was the old promise of this country a long time ago. Where do you think this is, where do you think this is coming from? Where do you think where are the answers going to come from?
Starting point is 01:03:05 If you can't, if you can't stop people from breaking into an ice vehicle, put them down. If you can't put those people down, if you can't remove a sitting judge who probably wasn't even born in this country. so that you can get your agenda through. And you're going to, and then you're just going to, your lackeys are going to tell me, no, you just got to wait,
Starting point is 01:03:37 you just got to be patient. You got to be patient. They're coming. They're coming. 10,000 more ICE officers. 10,000. This isn't going to be solved by ICE. Fuck,
Starting point is 01:03:44 you fucking fuck wits. This isn't solved by ice. This is solved strangely by decree. Do you know how many, if there's 50 million people here, The 50 million illegals here or 100 million people, you really think that they're just gonna, that that's gonna be rounding them up?
Starting point is 01:04:06 No, you have to make it so that they cannot survive here and that they leave. You cut off everything. Yes, exactly. Cut off everything. Minneapolis, there should not be a federal dollar and entitlement dollar, anything going into Minneapolis. And if there are heritage Americans there who are good people, set up something, set up something through the churches, set up something through however you have to do it and make sure that it's only heritage Americans that are getting taken care of.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Starve them the fuck out. One out of six children in the Charlotte, North Carolina school district. Yep. Is a foreigner. Yep. It's one out of four nationally. it's one out of four kids sitting in a public school is either is either for is either for they're they're an immigrant or their parents were an immigrant one out of four yep nationally
Starting point is 01:05:14 and how many of those were you know white Venezuelans or uh white Cubans fleeing communism or white South Africans or white Europeans making, you know, coming to this country and assimilating, I've seen video, Lauren Luske posted it, of like some Australian guy who came to America, similarly like, America's awesome, you know, like I have freedom here and I can have guns and I can free speech, like, yeah, more guys like that, right? You know, if Mark Collette or Thomas Sowell came to from the UK or Australia and seeking political asylum, I'd be like, sure, let them in. because they're genuinely under political repression.
Starting point is 01:05:54 But we both, everyone here knows and everyone listening and everyone in Washington and all the people who hear this, you know the vast, vast, vast majority of the people that have come to this country in the last half century are not good citizens who just want a better life and contribute. They're here as free riders who want to take our stuff. Because to them, this is the land of milk and honey. It's a strip bowl, as I said. Yes, it's a strip mall.
Starting point is 01:06:24 That's exactly correct. Do you know how many people of European descent I gave a green card or citizenship to in my eight years with US INS? Did I tell you this already, Pete? Did I tell you how many that was? Because I counted. I don't remember. Five in eight years. That's less than one a year.
Starting point is 01:06:48 And I did 14 interviews a day, a day. So tens of thousands of people. and you did five. Yep. Of European descent, yes. And I can tell you why every one of them did it. I can remember there was not one that was different. They were all older white guys that were in more often than not the shipping business,
Starting point is 01:07:13 like literal sailors, captains, stuff like that. And the only reason they were here, they didn't even particularly like America. They were here because their wives were American. and they wanted to finally do it for their wives, and their wives wanted to stay here and come home because they were getting older. They wanted to be around their families. So they did it for that.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Most of them didn't even particularly want to be here because they saw the writing on the wall. What was they're here for them? What was there here for white people? And nothing. Not for them. They weren't stupid men. They saw it.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Five in my whole career. I mean, what do you? How do you fix that? How do you fix that outside of, you know, drastic, drastic measures? Yeah. Has anybody had the misfortune of being in an emergency room recently? I was hurt on the job not long ago. Well, I live in a small town.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I was, but I love in a very small town and I was the only person in the emergency room. I'm sorry you were in the emergency room, but I'm glad you got very quick service. I live in as not as small a town as you, but also a small town. But there was me and one other person, and I could tell you 100% easily that the other person wasn't illegal because didn't speak a lick of English. They had to get a translator. She didn't have any identification. She was here with a baby. And I was like, so even though there's only two people in here, that's 50% of this room is illegals.
Starting point is 01:08:54 So all we have to do is extrapolate from there. Well, and moreover, I mean, everything, everyone said tonight is correct. But like, Donald Trump is working to get rid of Thomas Massey. He already got rid of Marjorie Taylor Green. Where is, you know, even on like fiscal grounds, you know, Thomas Massey can put on his black and yellow bull tie. and be like, well, it's not fiscally sustainable and we need to cut the deficit. And so, you know, I don't care how, right? But Thomas Massey generally comes to the correct conclusion just because he's an autistic libertarian about the economy of the federal budget.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Whatever. I don't care. Why isn't Donald Trump going after Susan Collins and Lisa Rukowski and all the other Republicans' squishes who are trying to ruin his life? You think that these people don't have campaign finance violations? You think he couldn't find something on these people and throw them in prison? Of course he could. they're all crooks. They all fuck kids. Pardon my language. But that's how they get there. And Donald Trump is there and safe because he's probably in on it.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I mean, I love you guys. I genuinely do. But would any of you stay friends with me if you found out that I was buddies with somebody like Jeffrey Epstein? Or would you be like, get the fuck away from me. I don't want anything to do with you for the rest of my life. Which is the correct and proper response. I mean, there would have to be a huge maya culpa and, you know, an explanation. But, I mean, it's, you know, you even have people now who, you know, I remember when, when all that was happening, when they were bombing Iran and you're like, hey, what about the Epstein files and people, quote unquote right wingers.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Oh, what, you just want to, you want to see child porn? Is that what you want? I mean, these, I really hate the term cope because I think it's something that you reserve for your enemies. But it's getting clearer and clearer that there are a lot of people who say they're on our side who are our enemies. Because they're cope and they're, the way they're coping with the fact that nothing is basically being done to some. the domestic problem. And then they're attacking you when you bring that up. I mean, that's what enemies do. Maybe it's just me.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I don't know. Maybe that's the way I see people. I mean, I've had a lot of really fucking bad opinions in my life. I've had a lot of really bad opinions since I started this podcast. And I'm doing everything I've tried to apologize for them over and over again. I'm doing everything I can to try to bring people with this podcast, like reality-based reporting or whatever we're doing here, commentary, history, real history, true history of what happened. And it basically means that you have to swallow your pride and your ego has to, you know, has to disappear. if you're going to say, yeah, I was wrong about this for a lot of years.
Starting point is 01:12:40 And I led people down a real, you know, I was leading people down a really bad path. Yeah. I hope to see that from a lot of people right now who are like just making, cheering on policies that are not doing anything to strengthen this country. And it's not that I can, and not the country. the people. Fuck the idea of a country. Let's talk about a nation, which is a people.
Starting point is 01:13:16 There is very little being done to solve that problem. And one thing that when you understand how big this problem is, you realize that it can't be done incrementally. It has to be done all at once. If Curtis Jarvin was right about, anything he was right about the fact that if this country was going to be taken back if the administrative state the deep state you know whatever you want to call it was going to be taken down it would have had to be in the first two weeks Sam Hyde was
Starting point is 01:13:56 right after Charlie Kirk got shot you had two weeks and Charlie Kirk getting shot proved one thing and it should have proved one thing to everybody when you saw no response for that that Maga died with the whole idea or hope of Maga died with Charlie Kirk because apparently for all of his flaws and I have many criticisms of the man and his policies he seemed to be keeping things focused and you know and basically keeping it from becoming what it what it has become. Apparently, he didn't want the bombing in Iran.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Did he, after the Iran bombing, did he say, you know, good job the way it was done? Sure, you're going to do that. You're going to try and support your friends. And a lot of people are just going to root for the home team even when they're wrong. But it is undeniable, the change, how basically clear, since, Charlie Kirk's death, it has become that we live in Judeo America. And anyone who can't see that, and anyone who can't see that everything that's being done right now to try and solve the problems is just a band-aid at most. I don't know what to say to them. I don't know what to say to them.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Gold is $4,500 an ounce and silver is $90. them. I know what to say to home during your local chapter, the old glory club, because they're the only people who are going to give a shit, whether you get shot or not, because there are insane communists. Do you think that these insane communists who are, you know, like exercising law enforcement, you know, they're, they're, they're, um, tailing people. They're interrogating people.
Starting point is 01:16:10 You think that they're not going to be like. after you, you think that, oh, that's in Minneapolis, that's not in my city. Bullshit. There are insane communists who think, because they have the moral self-confidence. They have the moral self-confidence to actually say, what I think is good is good, and the people who are against me are bad, and conservatives want to play fair and think that, oh, well, they might have a point, and we need to be fair on both sides. No, Grenny Good was bad.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And the people who support it are bad. And anybody that wants to, doesn't want to let America be America is a bad person. And they'll kill you dead for listening to this show. Let alone what they want to do to me or Jose or Pete or Charles. They want us to die slow and painful. And I've seen them talk about it. So take it seriously. Because no one in power is going to.
Starting point is 01:17:17 because if they did, you'd see changes. Anyone? Just briefly, I want to step back to you, Pete, saying that you hate the word cope. And I'll be honest with you, I do too. I don't know if we hate it for the same reasons, but I loathe it. I loathe it. I want to try and keep this cogent by using all of the men's points here to kind of make a point. I loat the word because I think it's constantly.
Starting point is 01:17:47 misused. I think what the real cope is. I think what I think what cope is are the people that you've been battling for some time, Pete, when you talk about you maybe had some bad opinions, but you're trying to move past them, get rid of them, get people back onto the right path. You have the courage and the humility to admit error. I'd like to think all of us here do. I'd like to think we do. I'd like to think I do. But who cope to me is people that just keep finding excuses. Cope to me is people that keep living vicariously, getting wins, air quotes, through other people.
Starting point is 01:18:27 That's Cope. Cope isn't saying, hey, we're going to have to do this all or nothing. One fell swoop. That's not Cope. That's talking about reality. Saying that, well, this plan isn't going to work for X reason, so we need to think of another one,
Starting point is 01:18:46 is not cope. Cope is just making excuses. Cope is just pulling thin air reasons. Cope is just moving the goalposts on the back of a golf cart every time somebody raises a good point. That's what infuriates me about cope. Cope is, to put it quite simply, in terms I think D might appreciate.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Cope is failing to take things seriously. that's one thing, Dee, that you said to me that turned my life around from the self-destructive path it was on. And you weren't even judging me or attacking me. You were talking about yourself and how you were. And I believe it was Thanksgiving dinner. And you were surrounded by adult men older than you. And you were the only one that said, well, I guess somebody's got to cut the turkey. Nobody's doing it.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I'll get up and do it. And you said something that changed my life. You're like, because I was the only serious adult in the room. Everybody else was goofing off or doing something or shirking responsibility. I was the only serious adult. And that changed my life in a breath. Be a serious adult. Understand what time it is.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Understand what is it's stake. You can give explanations. but do not give excuses. Yeah, well, I'm very flattered to hear that that meant so much to you. And I want to say something to both Pete and Jose that I've learned an immense amount because both of them, right? After 2020, people's like, oh, these people don't want to be free. They don't want the responsibility of being free.
Starting point is 01:20:39 They'll just sit in their house and smoke weed because the government told them not to go outside because someone got the cold. You know, Jose could have been in Congress right now as the pro-gun Hispanic guy in Texas. If he'd pushed hard and been like, I love America and guns,
Starting point is 01:21:03 and I'm Hispanic and I'm not a communist, vote for me in Dallas. He'd be either a chief of staff or in Congress right now. No bullshit. The establishment of Republicans would have creamed their paints at the idea of Jose Niño pro-American brown guy. But he didn't because he had some self-respect and realize that the only people that are going to, like, if they lie to you about Jews or they lie to you about the reality of race, or they lie to you about women or whatever cope you want, they're not going to tell you the truth when the chips are down.
Starting point is 01:21:48 They're lying to you now when it's easy. What are you going to do when, just as a for instance, what happens when England defaults because they don't have any money? And then all of a sudden the global financial system isn't an absolute shitstorm. And all of a sudden, people aren't getting paid. Do you think that these people that, you know, love America right alongside you, do you think that they're going to care about your kids being hungry? No, they're not. because it was all bullshit and they were trying to, they were trying to grift off of you from the beginning,
Starting point is 01:22:31 whether it's Nick Fuentes or Steve Bannon or anybody else. And I'm not speaking for anybody else here. But whoever it is that's not telling you the truth about who this is for, that we're living under a Judeo-occupied America, the Zog is real and it's the problem. Anyone not telling you that is lying to you, and they're lying to you for a reason, because everybody knows it now.
Starting point is 01:23:02 There is no excuse to not know the truth about Zod now. I mean, it's kind of frustrating when you, when people who understand that it's not the man, it's the system. It's how it's, how it's been structured, the people that are, in it better there for life and how they are there to work against your best interests and how you can get your best friend can get elected president and if he isn't going to cross the rubicon immediately
Starting point is 01:23:53 and keep going and seek to destroy all this and say they're probably going to kill me but at least I'm going to try to do it. And they're not just going to wade in the river and, you know, throw a band-aid here and a band-aid there and a misdirection in Venezuela and a misdirection in Iran. I mean, people knew this. People know this. And they're allowing themselves to be taken in because, you know, not once in their life have they, had a um a political something that seemed like a political win we're going to go i heard i heard my dad or my granddad talk about how the cop about the communist threat back in the day and i've been told
Starting point is 01:24:52 that there's this communist down down in south america and we went and we defeated the communist woohoo it's that pathetic it's literally that pathetic when you If you step back, you examine the situation, you look at Minneapolis, you look at Los Angeles, you look at places in the Pacific Northwest, you look at what's happening in Texas with just the invasion of Indians in Texas. But sure, you got your win, defeated that commie. it's that I am sorry I'm laughing at you I'm laughing at you
Starting point is 01:25:52 because you're fucking know better and you got distracted and I wake the fuck up and come back to reality well yeah how does this how does this coping help you for as you can spending time doing things like building local networks spend all this time and energy you have following you know whatever's happening on Twitter
Starting point is 01:26:15 X whatever the latest drama. That's where the war is being fought, bro. We can win it on Twitter. Chimp out. Chimp out. Chimp out. That's the way we're going to beat them. Chimp out. Okay. Well, but also,
Starting point is 01:26:35 but also build local networks. Can you call five guys to help you move a couch? If you can't solve that problem first. It's not difficult. this is this is who's who's gonna help you if like we're not not necessarily a fan of like cam higby but like when he got his car surrounded by communists and they soaked his windows you saw that like okay who's going to help him if he has to shoot a bunch of people is do you have a lawyer on janer does he have money for a lawyer do you have money for a lawyer
Starting point is 01:27:24 Do you know a lawyer? Do you have enough friends that everyone can chip in 50 bucks? And get you an attorney if you have to shoot somebody who's like, you know, sees the way you drive your SUV? Oh, you can't drive a pro-America car around here. You have an American flag sticker in the back of your truck. You're obviously a fascist Gestapo boot. You know, jackboot. And I'm going to surround you with, you know, five crazy women in pink hair.
Starting point is 01:27:55 and they're going to box you in and stop your car. And they're going to tell you you have to remove that sticker in this neighborhood because we care about our neighbors. You're going to deal with that? How are you going to deal with that? You should probably start thinking about that instead of like, I don't know. Can you name the major, you know, drainage in Venezuela? Do you know the river there that? Do you know the topography of Venezuela?
Starting point is 01:28:29 Do you know anything about Venezuela? Can you even pronounce it correctly? Like, can you tell me who the first president was? And I'm not an expert. But like, do you anything about Greenland? You know, before you do the whole, like, dude flexing with, you know, fireworks and like American flags gif about Greenland, do you know anything about it?
Starting point is 01:29:13 Do you know what 50,000 Eskimos will drink if they come to New York City? Like everything. There won't be a shampoo bottle with alcohol left in it in your little town. If the people of Denmark, or not Denmark, of green, get moved here. How's that going to work out? But America, fuck yeah. Grow up. It's really not that difficult.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I mean, I've had to eat the fact that I was wrong about the Iraq war for years. and years. And I was. It was terrible. But I admitted I was wrong. Do you think anyone listen to me now if I was like, well, yeah, I was wrong about the, oh, I was right about the Iraq war. What? No, it wasn't. It was stupid. It was wrong. It was evil. It was bad. And so was this. And so is every other war we've waged. This is not, you know, we have a war at home where some huge percentage of your ostensible fellow Americans hate you and want you to die because you think your kids should have a country or that you should have kids. You know, to your point, Dee, about, do you know anything about Greenland?
Starting point is 01:30:45 Do you know anything about Venezuela? And you throw the gif about, you know, America, the flag, the eagle, all that. I'm going to piggyback off of your point. Okay. What's your state capital? I'm going to get into America. What's your state capital? What's the state bird?
Starting point is 01:31:05 Do you know those? Do you know those two? Who's your state representative? Yeah. Who's your city manager? Like, who's the board of the county commission? Yeah. I mean, I agree with you, Jose.
Starting point is 01:31:22 And you're absolutely right. The reason I choose, what I choose, is to say, I guarantee at least 40% of people. people won't even be able to know their state capital. I mean, I agree with your point, Jose. I don't want you to think I'm trying to undermine it. I'm just starting out very easy and very small. What's your state capital?
Starting point is 01:31:42 What's the state bird? Do you know either of those two? Because I know mine. Now, that's not to say I'm some kind of expert on the state or some brilliant mind. But, I mean, if I claim to like this state because I live here, if I claim that if I have the five the balls to say that it's one of the best moves I ever made in my life was to move here. Is it perfect?
Starting point is 01:32:05 No, but was it one of the best moves I ever made in my life? Yes. Well, then we'll learn a little bit about it because I like it. Well, if you love America, why don't you try and learn a little bit about it? How about paying a lot less attention to what goes on outside of our border and a hell of a lot more on what goes inside? So please, Jose, you can go ahead. I just don't want you to feel like I undermine your point. No, I just wanted to just stress how people need to secure their neighborhood and just get their neighborhood in order before they start going on like bigger political projects.
Starting point is 01:32:42 But I want to also highlight another point that if you're going to get into politics, you need to define what your goals are and what constitutes like a victory. for example, you want an immigration moratorium? Cool. How are you going to get there? Who are you going to entrust? What type of vehicle are you going to use? What organizations are going to use? Which representatives are going to get behind?
Starting point is 01:33:08 Because if you pick the wrong vehicle or whatever, you're just not going to get there, no matter how hard you try to rationalize your bad political behavior. And how you're going to get to that final destination. It's going to be like the hardest part. If you can't find people on the inside. you're going to probably have to take matters into your own hands and start from scratch and building an organization from the bottom up on finding like-minded people because the time to rely on relying on false profits is long past us and there's no reason to be embarking on a ship
Starting point is 01:33:41 that's going to take you on the wrong destination ultimately yeah it's people um i i think we we have some people, good people who are getting involved politically, especially at the local level and everything. But yeah, they definitely need to know what they're in for. I have a friend who he's been local politician up in Indiana for a while. And I mean, he gets attacked. He's very, he's extremely right wing. And, you know, he gets just massacred for even talking about immigration. in a red state for it's i mean know what you're getting into i mean the um the new governor
Starting point is 01:34:33 of uh virginia what the hell is her name spanish do you know it yeah she she had her yeah she had her acceptance speech today what was her what was one of her main points fighting trump's immigration policy her first executive order as governor was to Peel Youngman's policy of allowing local law enforcement to cooperate with immigration enforcement. So not even 100 miles away from Washington in Richmond, like literally across the river from Washington, where most of the people who live and work in Washington actually live in Virginia. Right. Like literally across the street in Washington, D.C. I'm on Google Earth right now.
Starting point is 01:35:27 The Potomac is not even a mile across. Less than a mile from Washington, D.C. You're in Virginia in Arlington, and the writ of the law does not run a mile. Right outside of Arlington National Cemetery, the governor of Virginia, but the Civil War people were traitors. Robert Lee went his home, his family home that became the National Cemetery. He was a traitor. We need to tear all his statues down. But Abigail Spanberger, no, she's just a patriotic American.
Starting point is 01:36:15 No, she's a, isn't she Jewish? She's not an American, whatever she is. Doesn't matter if she's Jewish. Your husband might be Jewish. Doesn't matter. She's not American. Deal with that first before we're like, we should invade Venezuela, or we should invade Brazil,
Starting point is 01:36:35 or we should let the Israelis burn down Patagonia. We should invade Greece. England, invade Baltimore, and then see how that goes and then get back to me. I don't know that there's much more that we can say on the subject. I've kept you guys long enough on a Saturday night. And I appreciate you all joining me because just the frustration is there that people fall back into this because they like Trump or they know someone who works in the administration. or, you know, well, I have a friend that talks to the administration. Okay, good, good, good.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Those administrative employees, are they still there? Yeah, they're still there. Okay. All right. Yeah. He is able to deport people without a judge stepping in. No, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Thank you. Appreciate that. Um, a lot of cope going on. But, yeah, I appreciate you guys getting with me and I'm adding and definitely adding to it because it was just me. I just sit here getting frustrated. So I'll go around the horn. We'll start with, start with Jose. Jose's got a lot going on. Where can people find your work, Jose? What do you want to plug? no thank you so much pete for having me on again and also it's great chatting with d and charles as always
Starting point is 01:38:23 but yeah you'd find my work at headline usa where i'm a editor there and i write about some news stuff there and also i'm very active on my substack janeino unfiltered with my articles and my podcast el nino speaks which can also be found on youtube rumble Odyssey and Spotify and then yeah I occasionally write for Occidental Observer and if you would just want
Starting point is 01:38:52 like my regular musings I'm on X slash Twitter at Jose Al Nino Mr. Spadillo Thank you Pete As always thank you very much for having me I greatly appreciate it It's always good to speak with you Jose definitely
Starting point is 01:39:06 D we speak plenty offline and online But it's always a pleasure I don't have anything specific to plug I've got a lot going on personally trying to get a lot of things in order, career change, etc. But I just want to say that I can be found on X at Whiskey and Ashes. I still have a book out there, The Holistic Guide to Suicide, If Anybody Has Depression, Suicide, Idiation, anything like that. I do hope it will help you get past any trauma or difficult times. Other than that, God bless everybody.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Thank you for listening. I'll pass the floor to date. muted sorry i am on a substack fundamental principle i have my own religious based show there and um i kind of hear here they're everywhere jose i're supposed to speak on on his show at some point and um you know just thank you all very much for your kind words and your following and please support the guys to support you you know buy charles's books subscribe to the different substacks you know kick a few bucks because everyone else is going to lie to you
Starting point is 01:40:08 And the only thing you, the only weapon you have is the truth. So, you know, pre-man being on the wall slash support, I think. I always get that wrong. But, you know, kick Pete a few bucks because without him, this wouldn't be possible. Whoops, I was muted out that time. I appreciate that. And I think I actually got a change to the Pekinguna show.com now. But if there is a forward slash something after that, I've totally.
Starting point is 01:40:39 forgot what it is but appreciate that appreciate all three of you and until the next time thank you very much

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