The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1330: Getting Up-To-Date on the Epstein Files w/ Ryan Dawson

Episode Date: February 15, 2026

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What's happening? How's it going, Pete? Good man. Indicated and passed over. same time, I feel like. Well, yeah, I mean, we were talking a little bit about that before we started. But let's just jump in with this. In what's come out since Massey is doing what he's doing, what's, is there anything in

there that surprised you that you didn't know that you're adding to your library of everything Epstein that you've been doing since 2007, which I assume means that anybody who's written on this since then has just basically mostly plagiarized you. I mean, not everyone, but a lot of people have. Because it was easy to do. I was banned on all social media, so they could just grab my stuff, put it on Twitter, and it looked like it was theirs. Because I can't get on and say anything, can't call anyone out.

But a lot of people have been researching this, like Vanity Fair, Miami Herald. So people have been definitely on this case for a long time. The cops in Palm Beach, for example, you know, Mike Reigner and stuff, they tried. I don't think they had the background on Les Wexner and that whole group the way I did. If anybody's seen Newmec, this is not a network Epstein created as one he entered into. It already existed has been there since the Sunborn Institute. And it's just, I had a unique advantage of studying JFK, the theft of uranium and getting and knowing Jewish organized crime inside and out,

going back to like the 30s. And so when you see who's financing Jeffrey Epstein and their ties to Robert Maxwell and all that, I already knew all these characters, not just Gordon Thomas Borkshire. I knew what the mega group was. I was first person to explain that to everyone what mega donors are. And so I was able to hit the ground running with Wexner super early because other people don't know why he's so important. They're like, well, he's a rich guy and he finally gave my house. I hear all the trite stuff across to say he's to back off and it.

It doesn't, the case doesn't rest on that. But you get this, what happens is you get the same circles of sloganeering over and over again. and people repeating stuff they saw on Twitter as if they came up with it. And I'm like, these are not even your own words. I know everything you're about to say because these are not your thoughts. And I published the client list, 2019. I put it out on my third store because it's been canceled off the first two. I don't know.

I don't know what else I could have done. I didn't have a Twitter until 2023. I wasn't allowed back on until post Elon. And that's the only thing I was allowed back on. Still canceled on everything else. And it's kind of bittersweet. He's like, well, I know all this stuff. What am I supposed to do with it?

Who is it supposed to go to the FBI? The police? I mean, the victims already did do that. And it didn't matter. And where am I supposed to go with it now? People are reading the files and they're figuring out a bunch of stuff I already figured out. like if I could talk to massy I'd be like here's all the people we need a subpoena this is exactly what you need to do and this is what you need to ask but I don't have that access so I'm just watching

stuff go helter-skelter I'm like well they figured out Leon Black and Les Wexter the other day like all of us have known that forever I don't know they just figured out Tony Blair I think and people are freaking out and some of them are freaking out too much because they don't understand how to read documents. They think every accusation is a fact because it's on a piece of paper. Like, man, a lot of people say some bullshit to the FBI and they still have to look at it. Like, I'm in the file 11 times, whatever. Kind of creepy that the feds are reading my emails.

But, okay. At least you know, I'm clean because if they had anything on me, you know they hit me with that. But, you know, when you get an internal communication between two criminals in an email, that's pretty solid. This is from or two, Jeffrey, and then whatever person he's talking to. But when you just have an accusation from whoever saying crazy stuff like they're eating babies on a boat or whatever, okay, and it's marked as normal. And what sucks about these files is they didn't show you the file.

But like, okay, did you look at that? What was the conclusion? there's no chronology. It's just random files. Other thing people don't understand is a lot of these people went by their initials, so you can't just search someone's name and go, oh, they're in here this many times. Like they often refer to Tony Blair as TB, for example, and everyone knows who TB is because of the context. But unless you knew to look for that, you wouldn't know. And you'd just know, Tony Blair's only in this many times.

Like, no, no, he's in there more than that. But it's usually people talking about him, not him talking. That's just one example. But yeah, I'm watching people just lose it because they're, oh my God, why did they send all this sulfuric acid to the island? They must be getting rid of the bodies. I'm like, okay, let's do some math. He got six drums, 55 gallons each of sulfuric acid. One of those drums could dissolve one body.

if you're dissolving the bones in about a week. So you could get rid of six bodies in one week if you had six bodies and six drums. Or that could be for saltwater reverse osmosis so you can have fresh water on an island that doesn't have any. And that's the exact standard order. I don't think that there is salt water. And there is proof that he had ordered that exact amount, like a scheduled, two or three times before. There's also because the engineers setting it up and doing it.

I mean, if you wanted to get rid of some bodies, you burn them, and it doesn't take a week, and you don't have to put them one out of time in an oven. You bake a pit. You put them all in the pit, and you burn them all at once. You can get rid of a car with fire. To do it with sulfuric acid is just, when you're already on an island, you don't really have to do anything but sink it. It takes about the same amount of time, about a week. Now, the bones would be there much longer.

So if you wanted to get rid of skeletons, fire is the best way. If you're worried about smoke, you just do it at night. There's a whole bunch of ways. But they weren't out there doing human sacrifices or eating poop or any of this crazy stuff, they said. And I feel like I've debunked the Bush Clinton boat thing on a bunch of shows. So I'll do it real fast. I mean, there's no details. Like, what's the name of the book?

boat, what port did it leave from, where did it come back to, how did you escape, you witness all this stuff, how did you get off the boat when were Clinton and Bush in the same area at the same time on a boat together and whose babies were the, and da-da-da-da. No details. There is a conspiracy website link in it, though. Like, this is just some lunatic, but everyone ran with it. Like, see, see, it's, it's Mullock and Bail and all this Alex Jones stuff. I was like, no, it's not. They raped kids. They committed enormous white-collar crime. A little bit of blackmail. Blackmail was not the main. It wasn't blackmail most of the time. It was just a reward. This is how these people are. People in Wall Street fuck hookers.

Epstein had them a bit young. But this is not out of the normal range of debauchery for hedges. Guys with lots of money. cheat and they buy horse because they can. And that's bear sterns, that's Goldman's, that's any of them. That's how these executives behave. A lot of their wives don't even care because they don't marry for love, they marry for money. Shocker.

It shouldn't shock anybody. I mean, it's safe to assume that some of these girls were, some of these guys would get out of hand and some of these girls would lose their lives and they'd have to dispose of, you know, they'll, I mean, that's not, if they're trafficking from Ukraine or something, no one's coming to look for them. And organized crimes have professional ways to deal with that, and that's not ordering sulfuric acid, which leads a really, like, glaring paper trail, like, to order sulfuric acid to an island, like, that's not how you get it.

Everybody thinks they're in a movie. Everybody like looks at stuff like that. It's like, oh, I saw that in a movie, so it's real. It's on breaking bad. They dissolved them in a drama. I'm like, dude, no organized crime syndicate is stupid to do a public order on a fucking acid to an island and have the engineers there. It's for it really was for saltwater reverse opmosis. You have to have, same thing with beef jerky.

Like if you're on an island, you're not there all the time. and you need non-perishable food and stuff on there. As you go, you can't just keep helicoptering to St. Thomas back and forth. Jerky's not a bad idea. It's like it's just beef jerky. It's not human meat. It's not babies. Well, why would they be sending it to a lab for testing?

I don't know if they were. I think some of these emails is like you have all the Pizagate people and all their rumors. and you have to see, like, is this a communication or is this an accusation? Because a lot of the accusations are just whatever. They said the same stuff about the bedestas is all. And it's like, I don't think that's real. I don't think they were doing gene editing in a secret lab in New Mexico. It would still be there.

You could have witnesses who, you know, the girls live with them. You know, it's just like the thing that they were calling them. mosque that blue and white striped building was just a music room i talked to virginia about it she'd been in there he's got a piano now we've seen pictures in there's a piano and a bath room and there's there's like a ring of stuff in the deck and it's nothing special it's modeled after a bathhouse not a mosque but they're all like that's a temple to mulloch and that's what they do human sacrifices it's a music room with the piano it is well i think people do use code like for illegal drugs, for trafficking.

You saw that when Epstein emails Elon Musk and say, I have some UN diplomats coming over, and Elon's so autistic he didn't get it. He was like, well, that would be a waste of my time to fly to New York. I'm running two companies. He's like, do you think I'm retarded? It's all girls under 25 and cute.

He had to really, like, spell it out for him. But then you can see, well, if he's saying UN diplomat, and where else or were they talking about diplomats or things that seem, you know, business like. And it's all code for young girls. Peter Mandelson called him your guest in scare quotes. There's a million different things and they all mean kids. Well, there is something you have to. It was something I found shocking in the file.

This is like, I don't know why this didn't hit me before, but there was a huge scandal. some years ago called the one MBD scandal. It was the sovereign wealth fund out of Malaysia that got fleeced for billions of dollars. The money just went missing. Goldman Sachs, one of the biggest financial institutions in the world, had to pay out in total $5 billion to regulators and offer their role in money laundering. But Edmund the Rothschild Bank was one of the middle-neutral. and this conduit of theft from a sovereign wealth fund where like their oil revenue stuff it had all been stolen

and they were buying properties in new york and l.A and this one guy named joey low he's a malaysian middleman he did some dumb stuff he had brittany spears pop out of his cake when he was 31 on his birthday um he had all these celebrities paris hilton's sigh from gangdom style all that like these huge parties, bought a jet, bought a yacht. The money was just disappearing, going everywhere. But the Rothschild, Ariana's the Rothschild emails Epstein,

like in a panic, as if he's some kind of fixer to make this go away. And he did. They only had to pay a $25 million fine. Goldman Sachs, who has teams of lawyers the best you can get. $5 billion they had to pay. How did Epstein get the minimal punishment?

How did he pull that off? And why did she think he could do that? Is he smarter than everyone at Goldman? What does he have that they don't have? It's the only one. He wasn't that bright. You can see him talking to Steve Bannon. They're flexing on high school knowledge, not even.

like he thought Aristotle and Plato didn't write anything. He's not some super genius. Eric Weinstein, Steve Pinker said he was a moron, like, just a con artist or a cutout is what Eric called him. Pinker called him, just fake. It's what he listened to him talking. He's just saying, just basic. What he had was leverage, because he is the front man.

the fall guy, the face for this donor class. And that's the Steinhearts and Wexner and Bronfman and the same, you know, same people to finance the nexium cult, which was on Richard Branson's Island, by the way, at least one of their sex parties where they were pulling naked girls around on dog leashes and branding them right above their vagina with hot metal and paddling and spanking and humiliating and peeing on and all that stuff. $100 million came from Bronfman's. Claire Bronfman got 81 months in prison sentence for her role.

And it's weird to me, the Bronfman's, that's the head of the World Jewish Congress. That was the president of the United Jewish Appeals. You and I did a show on all these A-PAC-like affiliate groups, right? That's them. And Charles Bronfman sold his house to Robert Miller, who raped, he raped hundreds of little Canadian girls. hundred middle school kids too like that was his thing he had the same fetish as mike jeffreys the homosexual from abercami and finch that raped all those boys as with shaving all

their body hair like all of it not just pubs like arm hair everything he had uh he had to he had to clean him up in a bathtub and he raped all those girls for decades now he's finally going to prison he's got Parkinson's he says whatever his network slowly unraveling but a brututou pulet and these you know a bunch of Quebec you know print Canadian perverts no news had like one day news same thing with Mike Jeffries that was like one day news as this Abercombe and Fitch that's a big deal these are fucking billionaires and they were drugging people liquid Viagra they called it whatever that is forced muscle relaxers for you know backdoor action that is uh it was like one day news peter nygard who had

you know scat fetish shit in their mouths all that um raped or bought all those black girls in the Bahamas he was banging not even one day news billionaire in prison um not a pedophile just he did whoever but still you know it's rape and worse. And Prince Andrew hung out with him too. They all know each other. But what are the odds that the Bronfins are financing the Nexium cult? They sold a house to another serial pedophile and they pumped money to Ahud Barak in tandem with Les Wexter and the rest of the Meg group. All these guys know each other and they all knew Epstein because Epstein was Wexner's frontman. Most of them had frontmen.

The Bronpans screwed up because they used their own kids. And that's not even surprising because you see that a lot. In the one MBD, I was just talking about. The guy uses Stepson. He made a fake movie company and they were monitoring. Like, he doesn't care if they go to jail. It's his own son or Stepson, whatever. This is how they operate.

And it's at the highest levels. They had Bill Clinton. They had Tony Blair. They had Peter Mandelson. They had a whole bunch of people in Labor Party. I just wrote an article on that. It's like, okay. And of course, several Israeli prime ministers and presidents,

Herzog, Ahud Barak, Ahud Omar, Moshe Katsev, Shimon Therese, like all the little psychopathic genocidal maniacs from Israel are on speed dial for Epstein. Let's come back to Israel in a second. You mentioned nexium. Can you do a real quick breakdown of what nexium was? So nexium was supposed to be like some self-improvement, Tony Robbins, like Anthony Robbins.

I just say, don't want to get a mix up with Tommy. Anthony Robbins is cool, not into kids or anything. But that, it was a sex cult. And this guy, Keith Reneer, was, had brainwashed these. people or, well, more or less just force them where they couldn't leave. And these girls were just abused. It wasn't as widespread. It's only like eight or nine of them that were trapped, but that's horrible for those women, you know, and they got it. When I say branded, I mean, like you brand a cow, like you take a hot poker and put your initials on it or whatever. That was done

to human beings. And the fact that they used Richard Branson's private island, like how the fuck is he not know that you know of course he knew and he's in the emails with epstein doing PR advice and this is something i found odd like a little bit surprising because most of it wasn't surprising but ought to be but you had steve bannon richard branson and noam chomsky giving PR advice to geoffrey epstein could you think of three people more different than steve bannon and jomsky and then richard weird, man. You know, they're all weird. So odd. Yeah, but they're all like buddies with Epstein is saying, oh, we can do this.

And a little tell in Branson's email where he says, we can get Bill Gates to say, blah, blah, blah, is 17 and a half year old, da, da, da, da, because Bill Gates is seen as like he used to be a respected guy, rich a student in the world, he's helping people with vaccines. That all didn't age well. But what do you mean you're going to get Bill to say it? He should only say it because it's It's true. Of course, it wasn't true. Epstein was not arrested for 17 and 10 months, as Dershowitz said. They were 14. There was like 30 of them. You can see that file. I mean, they got the sweet ordeal, but so what? You can still read the file and see the victims are 14 years old and cried and told the police. That investigation started in 2005. A whole year goes by before Donald Trump gets on the phone. when he gets wind of it and says yeah you need to look into maxwell she's the main culprit or whatever i think the only reason since you know maria farmer went to the fbi 96 okay about a decade before 2006 and nothing girls have been going to the police it's only when a

billionaire called that they couldn't ignore it and that was trump and man you can hate Trump and I do for all his crap, you know, allowing them to bomb Gaza and all the stupid stuff he's done. His Lincoln-like tariffs and threatening Iran and blowing up people in Yemen and kidnapping Maduro in Venezuela so Paul Singer can make billions of dollars on oil and oil is now going to Israel for the first time since 2009 from Venezuela. But he did call and was the only one in that whole group to actually cooperate with police. Now, his incentive, however, is not because he has a moral, you know, he's moral, he's like just,

uh, it finds him repugnant that they would do this to kids. No, he's pissed off because Wexner and himself were in a real estate battle over property adjacent to Marlargo when this, uh, Jewish sheister name Abe Gosman, uh, he was in like made old folks homes or something and he has, he did a bunch of, of he was in the red. So he had to sell his property. And they were like, oh, yeah, we're going to grab this. His wife, by the way, Abe's dead.

His wife is in trouble for mortgage fraud and tax evasion. I don't really care about tax evasion because no one should pay taxes. But it's just like you had all this money. You're just hard to have more. They spent more. And anyway, Abe had to sell his properties. Trump ended up getting it, but Trump, it wasn't Trump's money. Trump was fronting for a Russian oligarch, and it wasn't Epstein's money either.

He was fronting for Les Wexner. And the oligarch's deal was he was getting a divorce and he didn't want to lose all his stuff. So he's like, look, you buy this and then I'll buy it back. And that's what he did. He was just moving funds around so she couldn't get him. I respect that, I guess. I got to understand that. a little bit. Yeah, fine. It's funny. And Trump's like he's been through. I think he'd been

on his second wife then. So he was whatever. But he, you know, he gets about a 44 million dollar windfall from that. Trump had done that before, not like that scale, but Atlantic City. He had rented out the mobsters and stuff. And it's all in my newest 9-11 film I got into that because I was going off on Bernard Carrick and Steve Whitcock. who's now very well known, Steve Whitcost, the negotiator on Iran and Ukraine, right? Is it true? Let me ask the question.

There's been some allegations that whenever he gets sent somewhere, like if he gets sent to Ukraine, he stops off in Israel first, goes to Ukraine, then goes back to Israel, and then comes back to the United States. Is that true? He did that at least once because his first trip to Ukraine is what he did, Kushner, too, so they get their orders. It's funny that he didn't even know the names of the oblast.

Like he couldn't even name like Lujanskin, Denex. That's the Donbos. That started the whole thing. He didn't know because he's not serious about it. It's business. It's business. It's just Trump's real estate friends. And they act like there are some geopolitical analysts.

Like they're not statesmen. They sell properties in a rigged way. He was a marble dealer. He's a, him and Simone Cohen were, the conduit from a teen Wertheimer that at one point the richest man in Israel who gave

the police commissioner of New York a quarter million dollars who then said he found a passport from a 9-11 hijacker because what are the odds? It's not impossible but it's pretty damn

improbable. Then they found another one. How about that? So it's exactly the story. He couldn't explain the terms of the loan or when he was supposed to pay it back or what it was for. Carrick was in Israel in August, August 26, 7, 8, 9. So, you know, 9-11 is just weeks after that. What do you do?

Why is the police commissioner of New York kissing the wall in Israel? For what? And then he gets all this money. He got another quarter million from the Gambito crime syndicate. So he has half a million dollars, basically, for everything two Jewish groups because that's what that is. it's no longer Italian, that he couldn't explain. He ended up going in jail. And it's like, no one followed up on this.

So like, you know, anyway, that's all in my 9-11 film. But it overlaps with just Trump and his cronies and stuff he was doing. He was in Epstein's circle for a long time. He knew him. There's no way he didn't know what he was and what he did. He just didn't want him poaching girls off his own proxie. property. He's like, hey, those are my employees' daughters. Like, can you not go to the spa on Marlargo? Can you go anywhere else? Epstein was never a member, never really went there anyway.

He sent Glein or one of his lackeys to go recruit girls, you know, Leslie Groff or any of his desk girls, you know? And like Sarah Kellan, she's walking around free. I think she married race car driver or something. Like, she should be in jail. She should be subpoenaed. Does Massey know this? Does you know who these people are? I don't know. Doesn't seem like it.

They're subpoenaed Lexner. That's good. And then they've subpoenaed the Clintons. And they're talking about Bill Gates. And I'm like, dude, go to my pen tweet. And subpoena all the people I told you to subpoena. That's who knows everything. And they ought to threaten Maxwell, like you're going back to Supermax unless you spill the beans.

She's like, oh, I'll do it if Trump gives me clemacy. Well, that's an obstruction of justice because you're admitting you have knowledge. You're just not sharing it. Like, even if you plead the fifth, what you just said already incriminates you. Well, let me ask you this. So a lot of people are trying to make this about Zionism and about Israel. And he had a wider influence where there were people that he was always in contact with. But the people inside, the Lex Wexner's and those people, the people who were closest to him, was it all about Israel?

Or was all of this blackmail? Was all of this enjoying for, I mean, I hate to say the word enjoying, but part taking an underage sex and all this about Israel? Or was this something else? Because people are, you know, people. I don't think the Israelis wanted them banging kids. not that Israel cares I mean Israel's a safe haven for pedophiles You can go rape the goy all you want and then go live in Israel

They don't have a problem with it as long as you don't rape Jews But they just from a Like the Mossad, they say that's sloppy Why do you you can't leave flight logs Why do you have flight logs? Just fake them You know like this is not an intelligence agent He was an intelligence asset As far as Wexter and all these goons

like the Wexner Foundation was created by Haganah. It is literally the outgrowth of Israeli terrorist groups before there was in Israel. This Palmak and Halna and Birchah and Ergun and Stern and that becomes the IDF. The Jewish agency becomes the first state of Israel. And Rabbi Herbert Friedman, the first president of the Wexner Foundation, diehard Zionist, right out of the people that were stealing weapons in uranium, same guy. came right out of the UJA from Hellel Silver and Ted Culloch and Bingurion and Ben-Gurian actually becomes the first prime minister.

Like, these are the guys. Wexter is 88 years old. He was kind of young, like then for that first generation of this shit. And Wexner comes in late 80s, early 90s with Doug Lease and Aribe Minashe said this. I mean, he was an intelligence officer, not for Assad, but for, I think, defense intelligence in Israel. And they tried that gray market weapons sales and stuff, and he wasn't good at it. And they're like, his proclivity was in, you know, sick, sexual shit. So Ace Greenberg has him go to Bear Stearns and do the everything job, which is just networking, you know, getting to know everyone and inviting them and compromising them.

That's the whole point. But the compromise is not a do it or else blackmail. It's more like price of entry, like insurance. You're going to do this with us so we know you'll never leave. As long as you're doing this, then we know we can work with you. And a lot of them like, sure, because they like fucking kids. Or in many cases, young women. They're not all pedophiles.

I'm just fucking hookers. Like hookers because they're persuaded, but whatever. And guess what? There were real hookers, too. Some of these victims are not victims. They were whores that did it for the money and regretted it later. No one held under your head. But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because there are definitely many who were just girls, not even women, who got groomed or a lot of them.

it happened to them once and they left in tears. They didn't keep going back. But the ones that got the big payouts are the ones that went back again and again and again and again. And there's just something wrong about that. Like the girls that did the right thing that ran home and told their parents right away, got almost no or sometimes zero payout because it less happened to him. He just did indecent exposure, flipped over with his dick on the massage table and you ran away. But you didn't actually get raped.

so you get less money. Like, there's something wrong. And you've got to explain when these girls are telling their moms and dads and they're going to the police why they didn't act. But then you can see that Epstein was paying the Palm Beach Police Department through his LLC hundreds of thousands of dollars. And so they all look the other way. Even the honest cops, which is almost an oxymoron, they do exist. We try to go to the property and get a warrant every time. time they did. The computers were gone. They'd have been tipped off because somebody else in the

department said, hey, we're coming at this time on this day. Yeah, I remember an interview with a bodyguard of Epstein that was saying that, yeah, they just cleaned it all out. We'd always get tipped off. They didn't worry about police. And this is why he got so John Gotti with it, raping multiple 14-year-olds. Like, why would you do that? You have billions of dollars. You're involved in all the, you're representing the Rothschilds. You're pretty important, why would you risk all of this for your little side operation of banging middle school and high school kids? He's a pedophile and that's what he wanted to do and he felt intouchable and he's like, well, they're not going to do anything. Clinton's FBI is not going to do anything. Clinton's with me. He's in the hot tub with Glenn. Like he felt untouchable. And of course he wasn't.

But the thing is, when he went to jail, he did flee to Israel and they told him to go back. because the worst thing in the world happened. In getting prosecuted, he ended up with that sweetheart deal, which made all his co-conspirators immune, which I think is why you're seeing most of the punishment right now come down in the UK and Norway and Sweden or anywhere other than America, because they didn't get that sweetheart deal.

Totally different jurisdiction. I think Peter Mandelson's going down. I think he can go to jail. that Thor Bjorn son guy from Norway, they raided his properties today. The Sultan, ABS, he's had to resign. There's like 12 others that had to resign. Larry Summers resigned. I guess that's a big deal.

But the resignations are just phase one. Because as long as the public holds their feet to the fire and they don't drop this like goldfish like they are and a lot of things. The subpoenas will come next. Les Wexner is supposed to show up on the 18th to Congress. Das can be better than watching Pam Bonnie yell about the Dow Jones, if you saw that. The Dow is like, we should be talking about this. Bitch, you are here to talk about Epstein. We're going to talk about Epstein.

Nobody cares about the NASTEC right now. They care about little girls getting raped. It's like your wife finding out you cheated on her and you go, babe, have you seen the bank account? The bank account is amazing right now. Look, we're selling stuff or whatever. Like, dude, it's worse than this. It's like not even like you cheated. It's like you cheated with a child or something crazier.

Well, let me bring this up because there's a certain email that I find very, very interesting. I'll bring up Lutnik because, and the only reason I really care about Lutnik is because three quarters of the time Trump speaks in public, Lutnik is over his shoulder. He is the Anthony Lincoln of this administration. They always got one in the shadows. Yeah. His sister work with Maxwell, by the way, it's not just Howard. It's all the Lutniks. So he, yeah, no.

Obviously, what happened on 9-11, maybe you can speak to that. But it's a very weird email in which he says he's stopping by the island. Of course, this is after he has said publicly that he's announced Jeffrey Epstein, as we knew he was a creep kind of thing. But he says we have eight kids with us, and he lists the name of the ages. He only has four kids. Yeah, is that, was that weird as weird to you?

Have you seen, had you seen that before? Yeah, he lists their ages, and one of them was seven. He's like two 16-year-olds, two-14-year-olds, and a seven-year-old at the end. Who's kid, you don't have eight kids. He's coming there with his wife and kids, and he lists the names of eight. children and one of them seven and you're like what are you doing there's only one reason to meet in person

on the island that's pretty far out of the way it's near st thomas you got to go there and then take a helicopter from st thomas to the little st jeffreys i guess you could rent a boat or whatever but that's you know it's not like going to new york or someplace where you have other things to do even Palm Beach, New Mexico, you're nearer of the thing. There's no reason to go to an island with a bunch of kids, especially not your kids, which they could not be because he does not have eight kids. And why are you listening to their ages? Why does he need to know that?

Just say it's from 16 to 7 or nothing at all even. He was letting him know what goods he was bringing. Here's my hero. He could have said they're all under 18 as like a warning. I don't want them to see anything, you know, you hide what, hide anything so they don't see them. No, he lists every single one of their ages. That is, what do you think about his children or something that I don't know about? Like he doesn't have, he has four children as far as I know.

What is he getting eight from? What do you think? What do you think about? Do you have twins twice? Like, you know what I mean? Probably not. What do you think about his 9-11 story? You know, his brother died in the World Trade Center.

I believe he probably didn't go to work because he probably never goes to work. A lot of these bosses, they're not 9 to 5ers. They don't have to go in an office and sit there and whatever. They work from home and they order people around. So it's not that shocking. He wants to make it into a story like, I was about to go into work. And I just didn't like, you weren't going to work. You never work.

you'd think he'd tip off his own brother if he had four knowledge like hey don't go tomorrow unless he hated him or something but it's that it's speculation and it's not i don't need it because the guy's a piece of shit without that he supported every war ever he supported the genocide in gaza he's like totally irredeemable on every issue and the fact that he's bringing kids to epstein in line and to say he he had males with epstein as recently as 2018 and maybe 2019 we haven't found yet but at least still and so way after when he said he cut off ties there's no explanation for those kids he did not have a bunch of twins you know what they were doing with those children a seven-year-old I wanted to hope

maybe maybe four of more his kids the other four aren't like no he didn't do that he just he's a billionaire too and he's a billionaire too and he You know, he's behind, they got him. He's like monitoring Trump. Mark Epstein's theory is Trump had Epstein killed at MCC. There's somebody had him killed. But he's like, you know, they nearly shot Trump's head off. He grabs his ankles for Israel worse than anybody ever other than LBJ,

because you can't get more Zionist than Lyndon Johnson. But, you know, Trump's number two. He cleared past everybody. He'll do whatever they want. He bombed Iran. He just let them in genocide, Joe, let them bomb Gaza too. I mean, I don't think Joe Biden knew where he was, though. And that's the thing.

It's like, I guess all of them would have done it. I don't think Reagan would have. And Kennedy wouldn't have. But the rest of them, yeah. But they would have- Carter wouldn't. Yeah, Carter wouldn't have. Yeah.

Yeah, he ate at them. Yeah, well, yeah. And he woke up a lot after he was no longer president because he went over and visited Israel, and he realized he wrote that great book, Peace, Not Apartheid. And, you know, they yelled and called him anti-Semitic and stuff. And it was Devere Leich,

the same lawyer that represented the dancing Israelis that was all after Carter. And they never served papers to either group because they weren't serious about any of it. God, these people are. people, like every crime I investigate, I always have this thing called dead pigeon or this thing, the bell. I'm like, let's see who's involved in organ trafficking. Oh, damn it.

Again, let's see who's doing, you know, safe haven for pedophilia, prison rape, where the majority of the population agrees that you should be allowed to rape prisoners. Like at least with like we had last week the the big story was ice shot to three people, two dead, whatever. But at least half the country was like, fuck that. You can't just shoot people. Or at least there was some argument. Well, well, you can if the, you know, maybe she was going to hit him with a car. Like if you really believe that I don't.

But if you did, like you have an argument. Like, well, you can shoot them if they're doing it. But nobody would say you could just walk up to shoot someone. Like we'd all, all Americans would agree. course you can't do that but in Israel oh you're going to kill someone are they a goy then they don't matter you can kill Palestine you can blow up a hospital full of people doesn't matter right at least in America as bad as as Americans are about a lot of things there's a line there's a moral line like you can't just blow up children you can just rape but Israelis don't think like that like

of course you can kill children they're amalek the goy and that's how epstein and a lot of his friends thought they don't look at you as real human beings they have a higher soul did you see that discussion yeah jewish soul is made of something higher and more pure i think it was fisher talking to him this is what they think and like yeah it's israeli like wexter and all these people like they're more zionists than epstein every leon black is a super zionist alin dershowitz is a super zionist around him, his lawyers, his finances, like his whole backbone, the Maxwell's, they worked for Israel. Maxwell, her sisters, her father, like they haul are assets for Israel. And the media's like, maybe it's Russia. Yeah, one of the things that's really like that came out with like that

Carrie Brigid Prisian Boler thing is that they've all of a sudden made turn Zionism into pro-Israel. Zionism is not about pro-Israel. Zionism is a mentality. Zionism is a belief system. And if these files prove anything for those of us who've spent any time around Jews, you know that they are supremacists. They believe that they're, even if they don't, even if they're not willing, even if they're not willing to come out and say it explicitly, little things will come out and leak and you'll be like, oh, okay, I just heard what you said. because they always do. They always say something like that. They always give it away.

It's weird to walk around with that lens where you're just constantly filtering stuff, like Jew and Gentile. Those are concepts they made up in Judaism. Everyone else is just people. But they're like, no, there's the Jews and the non-Jews. It's a self-alienating religion because you were just like assigned everyone outside your supposed bloodline of Jacob, an inferior status to yourself. Ever since this came out,

you're seeing a lot of people, especially the people that will not let go of MAGA. This doesn't mean anything. This doesn't, you know, this is a distraction. This is all to take down Trump. Because the left is talking about this to take down Trump, if you're talking about this to take down Trump, to take down Trump. That means you're a leftist. You're with the Democrats. You're with the New

Deal regime. What Bill Clinton's in the files, Reid Hoffman's in the files, Larry Summers, like huge Democrats are in the files. Their name is mud. This is not a partisan thing. Trump's what they don't get. Because everything's partisan nowadays. You know, at least he can say, yeah, I'm the rat. But it's interesting that Trump was afraid. for people to know that he was the rat. He should have been bragging. Yeah, I called in 06 and said, get him, get him, get him.

But he didn't do that. And he's the fucking president. Who is he scared of? Yeah. Why would he come out with that story right away? That had to come out in the file. Now, I have said that story.

I told Sean Atwood that when we were discussing Michael Wolf. I think Michael Wolf is a lying sack of crap. Oh, he's a disgusting human being. He's just a disgusting, fucking they lie like fish swim so how all of these authors and lawyer types are but i will rip on trump i made a film as you know trump sinus ball and chain i've criticized them on all the dumb shit he's done but you can have a nuanced take and say at least he did this one thing right whatever his motives were he was the only guy in that circle

to tell the police, yeah, he's so awful and Maxwell is right there with them. And then in public, he's like, oh, I wish her well, da, da, da. I'm like, well, that's not how you were talking to the police. So what's going on? He's afraid of the donor class because they'll destroy him, his kids, everything. He knows his daughter is now officially Jewish. I guess she had a lost soul that found its way home or whatever. Yvanka.

Here's the thing is I catch a lot of shit for not being a planned truster. When Russia Gate was going on, Horton and I were like podcasting every week about how Russia Gate was total bullshit. Ukraine Gate the same thing. Whenever they went. after Trump, like in the first term, for something that was complete bullshit, I would be there just going, no, this is complete bullshit. When he fucking bomb Syria.

When they said it was kind of part of Russia gate is when they said Hunter's laptop was a Russian hoax. That's not true. His laptop is 100% real. But isn't it interesting? They got 50 or 51 intelligence officers to all say it was fake. and that worked because it was Jack Dorsey's Twitter and he banned you if you said otherwise and that went all the way into the debate where they're like there's no Hunter laptop and yes there was it was all over the Chinese internet it was like it's Hunter with drugs

and hookers and all the rest of it and the real Russia gate like with Antoia Galupchick and all that that never they don't touch on it even now it was just this steel dossier crap and it's him again by the way talking about epstein possibly being a russian agent and i was sad to see like nigel farage reform party pushing that bs i was like he could he had a hard time getting a visa to even get in russia he finally went to st petersburg with maxwell and took some pictures in their stupid hats and stuff they just these were criminals um But yeah, he wasn't working for Israel directly like a Mossad agent. He was an asset that they use.

You got to understand states aren't the top of the mountain. This billionaire donor class, the deep state or whatever some people say, that's who runs the world, these billionaires, this shadow oligarchs or whatever you want to say. States, you know, heads of state are interchangeable. They come, they go in most places. But the donors are the donors. You know, lots of people have taken money from the Aedelson's.

Lots of people taking money from Singer. Lots of people, the same groups donate. They used to donate through A-PAC. Now they use UDP and a bunch of other affiliates. Best guy on that, Grant F. Smith, Big Israel, by the way. Better than me, I think. and they purchase your leadership. And you look at Epstein, who again is a front,

because Wexner's not going to get his fingers dirty. And he had them all. He had the highest level in the UK and the United States. You know, and he speaks English, so those are his targets. And it makes you wonder about some of the other places. I'd like the Jean-Lie-Bernel file, because I think he did way more than Epstein on the, I don't know what to call it, sexual escapades or whatever.

Like that guy, 60 minutes had hit him in the 80s. He was known. Him and Haddad, Claude Haddad, fashion industry mogul. Brunell used to drug women. Like what they accused Bill Cosby had doing, Jean-Luk Brunel actually did. He'd rape him right there in the limousine. He couldn't even get him to the hotel. Guy was disgusting. Of course, he's best friends with Epstein. But you know, he didn't start in France. Do you what MC2 used to be called? It was called Karen Models. You know where it started?

Nope. Tel Aviv. All roads lead to Tel Aviv. Isn't that word? No, it's not even his real name. Wasn't that a, um, wasn't that a back and forth between Bannon? Bannon said all roads lead to Beijing and Epstein comes back. How about, you know, maybe Tel Aviv? Yeah. It's funny.

It's funny every time someone dies or is suicide and he says, whoops. Have you seen that? Blah, blah, blah, oops or whoops. Yeah. Sometimes it's oops. It's mostly whoops. He knows it's Tel Aviv. He even said to Hood Barak, like, oh, maybe you should tell him I'm not Massad, smiley face.

They just never thought all these emails would ever come out the way they have and be on a DOJ website. Like, no way. And they're really not all out. I mean, there's another three million files that are not out. And this is mostly internal communications and accusations. You're not going over the court files that really dug through and listened to victims and getting testimonies. That's what you want. And they have not given us that.

Now, you can, I'll tell you, your whole audience this, you can get the files from 05. you can get, you know, like Virgin Islands versus J.P. Morgan and all these things. You can get, there have already been lawsuits where they had to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars to hundreds of victims for commercial sex purposes. I mean, they were pimped out. And it was not only Epstein was not the only client, obviously. Just Staley's already admitted he was. He's one that said he came in Snow White two times as soon as she put the costume on. But they had to pay out, and you can read these files. And it's all Jane Doe, Mary Doe, they won't get the names, but there's hundreds of them. And it's not like J.P. Morgan and Deutsche Bank don't have fancy lawyers and all that, and they still had to pay out there just for facilitating all the hush money that Darren and Ike and Richard Kahn were paying these girls off to shut the fuck up. you know, everybody needs to bow to Denise George from Virgin Islands. She was attorney general got fired over it. Because Epstein had several governors in a row in his pocket.

He paid the first lady 200 grand a year to work for him. That's a way of bribing the governor without giving any money. The governor he'd give it to his wife. lame he was getting a 90% tax rebate so he had his little companies and LLCs down there and his limiteds and he was moving around to other people's money it's just you're never going to get to the bottom of like I don't think I could explain it I've had to sit here for like 10 hours and just say then they did this and then they did that because I've been looking at this since 2007 And I've been listening to victims.

I've been listening to disgruntled employees. And he had that. And they came out. It's not just the pilots. It was his chefs, his like butlers, maids, chauffeurs, bodyguards. They all have been spilling the beans for a long time. And I don't know. It's just it wasn't, it didn't get any attention until they tried to,

it all on Trump and say, well, the Labor Secretary Acosta, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, it didn't matter. And it's kind of like what I was mentioning to you before with Robert Miller and Mike Jefferies and Peter Nygaard and even Robert Kraft and these other incidences. They don't even get one day a news. Only Epstein resonated. And it's only because they thought they could hang Trump with it. And they hate Trump so much because he's the one that originally told on Epstein. Now, there's plenty of other reasons they hate them, but that's not why they hate them. So if they, if a lot of these figures have already been given immunity, I mean, what becomes of this? I mean, the public having information, you know, the great noticing that's happened since October 7th is, I think that helps that if you know the history of noticing, especially like in the

Soviet Union, you realize the quote unquote peasants always are part of it. They're always like, wait a minute, what the hell is going on here? It always last, too. Yeah, they're always last. They're the most deadly. Yeah, but when they find out, things can actually change. Things can actually be implemented. But they've built a system now that insulates them so much from from being prosecuted, being harmed at all. I mean, what comes to this, man? Even if the other three million. Right.

Well, what comes of it is those who didn't get the deal do seem to be paying consequences already. They're having their properties rated. They're resigning from everything. They're being chased out. In the court of public opinion, they're all done. I would say what everyone can do, and I'll help make a list.

Right now, we're going through the subpoena stage and they're going to get in more information. I'm going to eventually get hold of Massey and giving an earful and then we're going to the moon. But something you can do now is boycott all their businesses. Don't ever buy from LL brands, Victoria's Secret, Seagram's Liquor, like none. Don't ever give one ridge edge coin penny to actually the penny didn't have ridges at, at Lincoln but don't ever give them one cent to the Bronfman's wexner Steinhart any of these groups there's not much you can do for some of them like well

global Apollo like well okay you don't it's not your hedge fund so they don't care but there are some of them that have actual products that Epstein joked about only the goy deal in the real world most these people are just speculators and they just make money from having money is essentially glorified gambling. They produce nothing. They don't provide a service. They just, they just leeches. But of the few there are, you got to boycott all their businesses. Don't ever buy a product from these people, ever. That's one thing everyone in the public can do. And make sure you're accurate. And don't just add companies at random because they have a Jewish CEO or something. Like they have to be involved in this.

And I will make a list of what to avoid. Don't ever buy these things. That's the one thing. Two, you cannot let this drop. No one cares about the Dow or the NASDAQ or whatever. Even if they go to war with Iran, you can never let them get away with Jeffrey Epstein. People want indictments. They want arrest.

They want people going to jail. and the fact that Lucknick and then they're not going to retire they're like yeah yeah i brought kids to the island so what it's not a crime because you can't prove what we did with them and that's how they think um part of me is like vigilante justice man but i can't advocate that because that would be illegal but you know if you know i think the subpoenas will create it's hard to believe but it's going to create even more fire under this. When Wexner, if he doesn't go and go, oh, I'm old, my medical,

if he actually starts talking on the 18th, so many people are going down. And the DOJ, you need to work with them. I think you gotta get rid of Patel and Bondi and all these people that you guys, I know that you're gonna go retire and end up with a bunch of money from the donor class, you're protecting, but just replace, put Matt Gates in there, whatever, put someone in there

that will prosecute these people because they're getting asked. They're going to say, okay, you found this out, you read what I read. Did you investigate that person? Because we know they weren't arrested or anything. Are you investigating? What was your explanation when they said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I love the torture video. What is that? How come you knew this and you redacted the name. Why are you redacting the names of the perpetrators at all? And you have. And this has been like pulling teeth, because if you remember, the first thing they did is binder gate. The stupid Zionist kids with their white binders that was a total nothing burger. Because I think what Trump tried to do is to throw his bone, a bone to his base and say, well, yeah, we're going to

get the files, JFK, RFK, MLK, and Epstein through executive order, which meant I'm just going to have my little lackey, Bondi, go in there, censor everything that matters and release some files that have already been released, but you won't know. They didn't anticipate this congressional order coming out and really ordering files, and they dragged their feet. They've had a long time to do paper shredding, and they're still coming out, and they did redact names, but it's like so overwhelming. They couldn't get them all. And so some people have been thrown under the bus, especially Bill Gates with his STD and his Russian girls and photographs of him with women. And he's done.

Might be hard to boycott Microsoft if that's what you already have or whatever. Like, we've already paid for it. So losing it isn't going to hurt him. It's going to hurt you more. Just don't ever buy any more Microsoft. Like don't ever get anything from Bill. Bill Melinda Gates Foundation, like all that stuff. But I want people to understand how hedge funds work, how this billionaire class is manipulating government.

Like that ought to be the bigger story, but I don't think that's what's being learned. They're just like, who was raping the kids? Throw them in jail. Okay, well, yes, do that, but do not see the greater picture here of these mega donors that own your heads estate. And a lot of them are involved in the AI, you know, Peter Thiel and the rest of these fuck wits. If you let the ADL run AI, censorship's going to go into overdrive. Anyone that criticize Israel is just going to be debanked.

They're going to have what happened to me. It's just happen to everybody. You're going to cancel all your social media, kick you off of every financial, like PayPal, Patreon. You won't have a strike. You won't have anything. You have to move to Asia. You know, I see all to live.

is one of the last places left. You can't let that happen. We're headed down that road. They already bought TikTok and what they do. They wiped out pro-Palestinianing house with millions of followers. Just you're gone. Why? You criticize Israel and getting away with it.

And it's very blackpilling. I talked to Scott Horton, well, like DMing, not talking. He's like, Israel's name is mud. I'll make you right. It is. But does that even matter to them? I mean, they just blew up hospitals and fun to everyone. They're like, what are you going to do?

They figured it out. They figured out. We don't have to fear them. We can just kill Palestinians, 100,000, and it won't matter. You'll still send us money. The entire world. And they just admitted that they just, IDF just admitted that 80, 83 to 85% of them were civilians, which means that it's probably 98 to 99% were civilians.

Oh, yeah. It was in its way over 71,000. The few states that did something were Venezuela, Bolivia, Colombia, Venezuela had already been sanctioning Israel since 2009. And look what happened to them. Two days ago, they started sending oil to Israel for the first time. That's what that was about. They'd look encircling Iran.

They sent the Lincoln. I want them the name of Torpedo, the John Mokes booth. because that would be epic or however they sink that thing they're sending the Ford and I'm like, well, just call that Ford's Cedar instead of the Gerald Ford. But I don't think

they can pull that off. They had six carriers when they attacked Iraq. You're not going to evade Iran with one. So I think it's just negotiation bullshit. But then again, this administration is so stupid that you can't really judge what's going to happen based on what makes sense

because they don't make sense. They absolutely could attack with only one carrier and lose. But yeah, they're that dumb. That's the problem. Are they stupid enough? Wait, hey, they definitely are that stupid. So you don't know what's going to happen there.

But what does it benefit the United States to have sanctions on Iran or threaten war with Iran? Nothing. It's Israel. And now you know why. Lutnik, like, he should be in jail. Whose kids are that?

They need to subpoena him. Explain this email. Who's the seven-year-old? These aren't yours? What were you talking about? What's he going to say? No, it's, you know, it's way past that. I mean, when you're an occupied force,

the only thing that you can hope for is is that, you know, the occupiers, their kingdom, their empire falls apart or, you know, something, something kinetic is going to happen. I'm not saying I want something kinetic to happen, but I mean, it almost seems like that that's the only, when you look at justice and tar and feather and all that, like string them up. That's what we used to do. So they broke into prison and got Leo Frank and hanged him for raping girls. He raped a 13-year-old Mary Fagan, and apparently he had been finger-banging with a bunch of his employees at his pencil factory. And when the public found that out, they broke into the jail because he was going to get commuted because Benibirith was bribing the governor. They had an epic 19-mile-an-hour car chase.

they brought him in the woods and they hung him dead that's what ought to happen to the even if you're a billionaire whatever like if you're we know what you're doing to little girls and rape and theft and all that you should just be killed but we don't have a functional society anymore it's um so many people are placated by drugs and video games or whatever whatever that they can't even be bothered to pay attention to this stuff. I did see Epstein in Korea. It was on TV and they were explaining it. Japan's already mugging Pam Bondi like that quick. They made an anime just just trashing her. And you know, the world is looking and going, how come people in the UK are being arrested, Sweden, Norway, and the U.S. Nothing's going on. I don't think they know about the deal

all that, but they're wondering about the U.S. public, but what would you like them to do? We have proven cops. We'll just shoot you. So like, what would you like them to do? That's what I'm saying at least at minimal boycott all their stuff? And I'm not going to tell you the next thing you need to do. You need to figure that out. But step one is what I said. And of course, public pressure. You do have some perfectly legal avenues to try, which is subpoena these people before Congress to the hearing and trying to get prosecutions. And at minimal, like, waking the public up to how the world actually works. It actually almost be better if no one went to jail because then everyone would give up on the whole system. Like, if you don't arrest anyone else,

just Spurnell, F.C. New Maxwell, and you just let all these people go away with it. Even the plebs, the hoi-po-loi, whatever you want to say, the couch potatoes, they're all going to realize the whole thing's rigged, and they're going to lose complete faith in the FBI and the courts and everything. Like, it doesn't matter. It's all rigged. And they're going to tap out. You're going to have a nihilistic society. Like you say, there's just rich people who just kids are raped kids. They're just allowed to do that. And that's definitely going to breed violence because they don't, if you prevent all avenues of legitimate ways to deal with grievance and arbitrate disputes, what's going to happen? Shootings is what's going to happen. Or worse.

No shootings. And we just let them rape our kids. Tell everybody where they can find your work, Ryan. Ryan Dawson.org Make sure you write org.com or this blue square anti-neocon.

That's where the shop is and you can get Epstein map. I even put it on a hoodie, put the client list on the back. Had that around before. I don't know if I have it. People seen it. I put the whole, I put the first page up. I put the whole list up.

on substack the other day. Ryan Dawson, I don't work. It's like three or four posts ago. It says 130 names. I had to stop at 130 because I got tired of doing it. But they're all there and they're all in alphabetical order. And like here,

here's who's, here's, when George Carlin said it's a big club and you ain't in it, here's the club. There's all your upstine clients and associates. It's really great that he got caught in any portion of this is coming out. but man it's the tip of the iceberg the um go over and subscribe to ryan's uh substack i think i think i was one of the first paid subscribers ever and i think you're definitely in that

first wave yeah like first one we were fun with the first people on substack and it's because i'd been banned on everything else you know you can get this too i think you'll i think you have this maybe, but the boycott Israel coffee. It's regular coffee. I mean, you know, it's decent coffee, but the package is, it says this on the other side too, end all aid to Israel. That's awesome. It's just good to get up in the morning if you're a coffee person,

like the first thing you see, it's boycott Israel. Oh, yeah, it makes you feel good. Well, I mean, I have certain pictures around my house that remind me pictures. pictures of people who have pushed back against these monsters over the years. So as I walk through my house, I'm reminded. Take care, man. Thank you. 109.

110%. We've got to give it 110. Take care, brother. Bye. Take care. Bye.