The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1349: The Trial of Adolf Eichmann - Pt. 2 - w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

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This was very calculated and it wasn't just for the sake of it, which is why Eichmann was shanghai in the first place. I mean, the Office of Special Investigations of the Department of Justice and their counterparts in occupied Europe, until the 2000s, they'd spend their time looking for people to indict for, you know, confabulated crimes carried out in the service of the German right. Eichmann, however, the narrative that was devised around him, that that was very that was very particular and I'll get into this in a moment

I don't think people fully realize the degree of which the design estate was was bankrupt and they were being supported by this reparations regime that they were extorting from the Bundes Republic the DDR of course refused to recognize Israel's legitimate state and they certainly and concomitant with that the entire warsaw pact they claimed that you know they're the ones who vanquished fascism and they weren't going to acknowledge some discreet victim category for any ethnos you know they just didn't abide the the holocaust narrative at all you know that's why is something important

you know to this day and this is a bit tangential people don't really understand russia as a culture the russians as a people and i'm not some expert on bazaanthia i'm i'm not a regional studies guy at all but i i know a lot more about i know a lot more about darrell islam in in japan for example than i do about russia but when the when the russians talk about anti-fascism they're not They're not talking about Holocaustianity. You're not talking about woke stuff. It's nothing to do with that. It's its own ideological imperative and historical narrative.

This should be obvious, but for some reason it's not. And, you know, that's an important point. And that's one of the reasons why, I mean, the Warsaw Pact is literally at war with Israel for decades. You know, and I believe that included DDR elements on the ground. although that's never been acknowledged. But it absolutely was a state of open warfare. But as it may, you know, the Jewish state by the time Ikeman was on trial,

these billions and reparations were slated to end. And Israel had virtually nothing in terms of currency reserves. It had the infrastructure profile of a totally undeveloped country. It had no meaningful economy to speak of. And also, the Cold War was causing certain aspects of the Norberg narrative to be suppressed in the public, court of public opinion. because it was imperative to rehabilitate the Bundes Republic as it seemed as if World War III was going to arrive

just as a foregone conclusion. So there were material considerations and political ones for putting Eichmann on trial and then pretending that Eichmann was this mastermind of some murder conspiracy, when in reality he was a basically irrelevant personage. and interestingly you know like when it wasn't a coward or whatever you can say about him he was a limited guy and that really comes out if you review some of the footage he was so intellectually curious he became fairly um competent in in reading hebrew and he could speak a yiddish although not totally fluently and he studied he studied

Judaism and Jewish cultural practices and heritage part of that owed to his role as a policeman which is where he was at base and a desire to excel at the role assigned to him

but he wasn't ignorant he was just kind of limited and he wasn't a man who commanded respect really and when he was sentenced to death he had opportunity to us the court. And he didn't ask for mercy and he obviously wasn't afraid. But he said essentially

that posterity will acquit me. You know, he said, like all men who've served governments at war, I've done some very immoral things, but I've never killed anybody. And this idea that I'm some mastermind of the architecture of mass homicide is laugh. One of the, one of the One of the assistant chief prosecutors to the American delegation who worked closely with Justice Jackson, well before and subsequent, he was this German Jew who'd served the Prussian Interior Ministry. And during the years of struggle, as a national socialist called it, he became an arch-opponent of Hitler. and then obviously after the National Socialist Revolution, he was dismissed from his post. He emigrated to America became this big nude dealer partisan. But he subsequently wrote a book that cast Eichmann.

It was called something like Eichmann and his henchmen, where he cast it off Hitler as some sort of cipher, and Eichmann was the secret overlord of the Third Reich. it's laughable. It's like something out of a comic book or a cheap novel. But this is the degree to which the propaganda apparatus got underway. You know, and it didn't seem to occur to anybody in America. French media, interestingly, was a lot more critical. I think I got into that last time, or last episode.

It didn't seem to occur to anybody in America. How come nobody had ever heard the name, Get Off Aikman, until until 1960, if he's supposedly this this sort of shadow furor of the German Reich who's devising plans to annihilate entire races of people and secretly pulling the strings of the Axis Powers on the Second World War.

Now, the whole thing's laughable. But again, it wasn't just typical Zionist hysterics or the need to give anti-fascist ideology a proverbial shout in the arm and the public mind. I mean, obviously, that was part of it, but this was very, this was very deliberate and very necessary to sustain Israel in terms of its ability to extort concessions from, you know, the Europeans as well as from America.

And obviously a house divided, circa 1960, 1961, vis-a-vis Washington and Israel and the UK, and on the matter of the Bundes Republic, and its legitimacy, the Soviets were all too eager to exploit that. Royal London, Ireland, award winning, year after year, after year, after year. For the fourth consecutive year, Royal London, Ireland has won the overall financial services excellence award by Brokers Ireland. Because real excellence isn't a one-off. It's something you deliver again and again. When it comes to life insurance and pension products, choose a provider you can trust.

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The Dago trial was very different. I mean, it had to do with the Malmany massacre first and foremost. It didn't have to do with the camp at Daco. It was simply held there. but in both instances, what was entered into the record to substantiate the elements of the indictments. It was testimony by witnesses whose claims contradicted one another as well as the factual record as, you know, committed to paper by the allied authorities and others. And the case of the $6 million, we got into, I think,

when we were discussing the aftermath of the Second World War, how Justice Jackson was essentially approached in Washington by an FBI liaison and representatives of the Zionist International, the American Jewish Committee, and they essentially decided on this number. and that was true. And the Eichmann trial, what was relied upon

was the ultimate source of that initial figure. And that was an SS overgroup and fear von DeMbeck Zelowski. He was a general Levaugh

and SS and he was an Einstein's group commander. and he was probably a British intelligence asset, which is why he wasn't prosecuted in Nuremberg. Later, Zeletsky was indicted by the Bundes Republic for a series of murders carried out during the 1934 rompurg.

Zalewski murdered a couple of people who probably weren't at all implicated owing to personal vendettas and things. And he served about three years, I think. But, you know, for the actions carried out in his official capacity as an Incepts group commander, he never faced any penal jeopardy. But a lot of these figures actually came from him

and only him and nobody else. he claimed that in 1941 he said that Heinrich Himmler gave a speech at Vesselberg now there's no record of this speech ever being given and nobody other than Zalewski ever claimed that it was delivered he said that himler said that the aim of the of barbarosa was to reduce the slavic population by at least 30 million people and essentially exterminate the Russians that's where this whole myth comes through and that's bandied by these kind of amateur internet historians

of Hitler hated Slavs. Okay, that's the source of it. And a sort of selective calling of, you know, statements from Hitler's table talk and mine comp that purportedly substantiate this intention to murder tens of millions of Slavic people. but Eric von Voxelowski he

again he was an Einstein group commander whose testimony was strongly relied upon to condemn the Nuremberg defendants and the reason why he escaped any punishment you know again it wasn't just because he was a

cooperating witness but he was probably a turncoat that was feeding intelligence to the allies. You know, and again, nobody, nobody has ever substantiated what he's claimed about these things. But interestingly, he was subpoenaed as a defense witness by Eichmann's counsel. And interestingly, he proffered his testimony at either in Berlin or Nuremberg. And it was read into the record in Jerusalem. But many witnesses were just categorically excluded that Eichmann wished to call

and the Israelis made it clear also when his defense counsel proffered a witness list that virtually all the witnesses he intended to call would immediately be arrested if they set foot in Israel. So, I mean, that that's sort of an almost comically obtuse. declaration that due process are simply not going to be honored um and uh you know this plays into i talked about uh ramon joffrey the french jurist who was one of the voices in defense of ikeman you know he uh if he if he was anything he was a left winner left winger social democrats type but he was appalled by the casual dispensing with due process and substantial justice in the matter of

Eichmann but um you know I mean the point not just that it was utterly unprecedented to literally kidnap somebody to avail them to personal jurisdiction where there wasn't you know we're no subject their jurisdiction existed at all. And in addition to that, obviously a venue such as Israel would not be a place where considering, by their own admission, their unwillingness to allow witnesses they consider to be tainted to participate meaningfully in the process. And beyond that, that they'd place them under arrest. you know that that was one of the major issues with why it was improper for the menu for this trial to be

jerusalem and beyond that the diplomatic convention and at this time too obviously relations had totally fallen apart between israel and the soviet union brief as they had been um briefed as good offices have been maintained between the two states, people are suggesting that Israel is, you know, needs to be accepted as essentially a Western nation that abides, values concomitant with that status. The way things have been done for a better part of a millennia in the Western world was that wanted men

are presumed to be able to request asylum in a host nation and the process by which they can be availed to proper jurisdiction to answer for the accusations against them is a matter of diplomacy whereby good offices reign and the are approached by their counterparts and a petition to extradite is proffered. And if there's good faith present, it usually is, the request is usually honored. It's, it's unprecedented to kidnap defendants, even among states that are at war. You know, and that was a... That's when international law was taking a lot more seriously. I mean, obviously, international law is always permissive. It can never be compulsory.

And anybody who claims otherwise is a simpleton who simply speaks in moral platitudes or they don't understand legal process and its origins and how it works. Roy London, Ireland, award winning. Year after year, after year, after year, after year, after year. For the fourth consecutive year, Royal London Ireland has won the overall financial services excellence award by Brokers Ireland. Because real excellence isn't a

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But this something that weakened the central motif, to bring it back a bit, about the 6 million. And it wasn't just that Zelowski was not a credible witness. And even though he wasn't available to be cross-examined, or, you know, I mean, he wasn't available at all. It's a testimony that was simply entered into the record. People knew what his background was. To say the least, that that's an infamous resume, not to be flippant. But the other thing that weakened, even back then, as a decade, you know, there'd been a decade and a half since the end of hostilities.

And prosecutorial authorities, whether they're, you know, they were in Israel, the Bundes Republic or the U.S. Department of Justice, they can no longer simply make hash with the factual record. Because a lot of these claims have been successfully impeached. and not just by fringe elements who were animated by racialist imperatives. You know, there was plenty of very mainstream historians who were demonstrating at the time that these claims were considerably exaggerated about what went on during war two. And for example, I think I raised this last time, at Nuremberg and in the aftermath, people would casually bandy that at Buchenwald or Bergen-Belsen at Dachau or Malthausen or Ravensbrook, that there were gas chambers and these were death camps. I mean, none of that is true.

And it's not even, I mean, not even the most staunch proponents of Holocaust law claim that today. you know um so there was a lot of perjured testimony a lot of confused allegations a lot of outright fabrications so claiming that ikeman not only was this sort of evil genius architect of of this murder apparatus but that there was this huge network of industrial execution machinery that was murdering millions of people in matters of months, that was substantially less credible. I mean, I don't think that's a pretty credible claim anyway, but you understand what I mean,

even within the parameters of what the prosecution could allege and considered the light most favorable, a lot of these, a lot of this narrative had been effectively rebutted. That's one of the reasons why this, testimony of people like Zelowski became outside. And ironically, because he was, in this instance, he was subpoenaed as a defense witness. Basically the reason why, to be clear, too,

Zolevsky wasn't acting as a character witness or something. It was on a very specific issue. He was saying that, look, I was an Einstein's group commander. Eichmann was an SD functionary. Yeah, but he had no command authority over the security police on operational terms. So this idea that I was availed to the whims of a lieutenant colonel who I outranked, who essentially worked on the bureaucratic side of the Algamine SS, despite the fact that he had an SD patched on his uniform, is laughable.

and you know he basically Zolevsky's claim which was true was that Eichmann was part of a totally different chain of command that but that move was true that that's accurate but I mean ironically despite the fact that

he was testifying contra the prosecuting authorities the substance of much of what was being alleged derived from his testimony and not a hell of a lot else. There was also, there was an overstem and fear of Dr.

William Hoddle. And he was alleged, this wasn't, I mean, he was openly alleged to have been a British intelligence asset. I guess this is a Lefsky was just suspected. It was, in January 25th,

1961, there was a British periodical, kind of a news tabloid called Weekend. And on his cover, it was a photograph of Wilhelm Hoddle in his uniform that the caption, you know, British Secret Service agent, you know, was a top Nazi leader or something on that order. And he was insinuated into a counterintelligence role.

That was kind of murky. And the subject to that is that the DSS, as we're getting clear, that the AvVAR was totally compromised. They took on more and more of this sort of internal security role under auspices and counterintelligence to sort of suss out where the leaks were. But, of course, ironically, a hot in all probability himself was a double agent. Um, he was a, he was the other main source of this six million figure and numerous other claims. Um, Hadoven personally associated with Eichmann, because for a time, he was connected with section four of the Reichman's security office, which obviously brought him in touch with, um, Eichmann. And the last time he spoke to him, apparently, was what he claimed was August 94, this bizarre statement that's cited, like if you go to Wikipedia or something, or if you crack open, you know, these books by people like William Shire, there's this bizarre and macabre quote that attributed to Eichmann where he says, you know, I have millions of dead Jews in my conscience so I can jump into the ground. a happy man.

Like, that's such a bizarre thing to say. I can't imagine anybody's saying that in casual conversation or otherwise. But Ahadl claims that a little bit of hearsay that came from Velhel and Hoddle. He claimed that Eichmann just spontaneously said this. Because it's natural where people just confessed to committing millions of homicides, the, you know, people that they work with. But, um,

and there was another lesser personage, uh, a young SS man from the he was one of the one of the one of the Austrian National Socialists um Visletschnie I think

said pronounced it he's got those unpronounceable Eastern names but um I think he actually attested that but a hearsay saying he heard it from Hoddle who attributed it to Eichmann so it's hearsay within hearsay

say in the form of an admission by Eichmann, supposedly during some casual conversation at a residence that Hado was maintaining in Budapest in the closing months of the war. And interestingly, that body of testimony, it was addressed by Leon Poliakov. Poliakov was a German Jew who later, or who was a Russian Jew, forgive me. He was the founder of what's known as the Center for Jewish Documentation, which is exactly what it sounds like. It maintained war records of European Jewry and attempted to discern the fates of these people and things. you know not not just for the sake of posterity but also because jewish population statistics were of a constant concern to the architects of the jewish state for obvious reasons because their their ongoing obsession was and continues to be demographics and you know

all things related they're in you know he said that any any figure that was you know, that was drawn upon based on a mere testimony, you know, even where the declarants credible and these, and these declarants obviously weren't, what would be suspect. You know, so he, and he said that that, this is basically said this is a discrediting the design has caused to rely on these kinds of suppositions and then insist that, any objection to the attrition figures proffered are is you know somehow morally objectionable or you know something that should be fought tooth and nail to preserve in the evidentiary record you know I mean that this should be a common sense thing but

there's not um obviously common sense doesn't prevail when you're talking about this this kind of zealousness you know and it uh and he wasn't alone um i think i mentioned before the the american council for judaism they were more moderate than some of these other jewish NGOs but they you know they they weren't moderate in any objective for absolute sense they went as far as the formerly protest a christian herder who was the secretary of state serving secretary of state of the time, objecting to Israel asserting a right to speak in the name of the Jewish people. And, you know, objecting to the Eisenhower administration, you know, validating that perspective. And signing off on Israel appointing itself as, you know, the formal representation.

of all Jewish people at international law for a practical purposes. And the notion of the American Council of Judaism was the traditional perspective that Judaism is a matter of confession and lineage, but it's not a matter of nationality, which is true. you know, the secular Zionism is anomalous and it's at odds with precedent in all manner of ways.

And it's the president of the world Congress at Jews a guy named Nathan Goldman. He went into immediate damage control. He issued a formal statement in response to the council's formal objection to the State Department.

He said, well, you know, as the Israeli authorities would admit, this action was obviously an infringement of, you know, not just Argentinian law, but, you know, it smacks of lawlessness generally. And this could establish a dangerous precedent. But, you know, when we're dealing with Nazi fugitives, we're dealing with evil that is so unfathomable and so exceptional and so dangerous that we've got to make room for activities and enforcement actions that otherwise wouldn't be acceptable. So basically the perspective of mainstream Jewish NGOs and Israeli government and most Zionists, secular Zionists, was that, you know, the Trump card is that when you're dealing with,

what are you doing with the enemies of the Jewish state or if you're dealing with people who serve the German Reich or sympathetic to it, they do process out the window. There's no restrictions. Anything is possible because this is a, this is the distilled essence of human evil.

Which is absurd that such concepts are entertained at all, a little alone by you know, people who aren't Jewish and who reportedly are you know, committed to rational processes and the the honoring of the substantive rights of the accused in in a

matter of justice and and Ben-Gurion's uh David Ben-Gurion's statement was even more bizarre he said that well we can argue about whether or not the state of of Israel represents world Jewry or not. And we can argue whether or not it was right to capture Eichmann by force rather than by appealing for his extradition. But because Israel exists and because Eichmann is here and we have captured him, we've just got to accept that A, this state is in fact a representative of world Jewry and B, because Eichmann is here

and you offended against the Jewish people and we're the representative of that people on, you know, on earth. And because Eichmann is now availed to our jurisdiction, even if he was brought here illegally, where, you know, we have jurisdiction over the person and over the subject matter. I, that's basically a quote of saying, yeah, when you were sleeping, I stole your car

and that was wrong. And, you know, it's an actionable wrong at that. but well because your car's now in my driveway and because i draw it here i mean we just kind of have to accept that now it's mine i mean that's the same that's the same mode of reasoning or lack thereof but um you know and i to be clear also uh what i mentioned that um the outset and this this is a major aspect of it of the Eichmann affair you know it was not just the need for a second nuremberg but to beef up the reparations regime or preserve the reparations regime because i mean this was a political problem of of a critical nature you know and these

what was called euphemistically the indemnity for which germany was responsible to israel in the form of billions and billions of dollars and damages, this was what was keeping Israel alive, like literally. It's not polemic. And, you know, people forget, too, one of the reasons why Israel in the, or the Zionist element in the closing months of the Second World War, and then, you know, very briefly thereafter,

or Israel had good offices with the Soviet Union because they're looking for a patron. You know, and obviously a lot of Ashkenazim, you know, the Ashkenazim Heartland had been, you know, the pale settlement and the Russian Empire. But as part of that, as part of that paradigm, you know, Israel was very committed for a time to socialism and the planned economy. you know it was it was it was a hyper racialized and militant socialism but that's what israel was a basket case for the first years of its existence i mean not just because there's really nothing there and they were there you know there's an absence of of um modern infrastructure but they they they completely botched uh the development of a capital base by essentially practicing a variant of Marxist-Leninist economic planning.

You know, so really for the first, really from 1951 onward, Israel had only survived only did German reparations. And, I mean, there was substantial American subsidies and organized Zionist NGOs they were very good at fundraising in Britain and France

and getting diaspora Jews who were wealthy to pony up money but the crux of Israel's capital revenue

was German reparations and and this was to be clear this came about um based on what was called in the Buddhist Republic the Luxemburger upcoming um it was formally branded the reparations agreement between West Germany and Israel it was signed on September 10th 952 it officially entered into force in March of 53 And according to the agreement, among other things, the Bundes Republic was required to pay Israel for the cost of, quote, resettling so great a number of uprooted and destitute Jewish refugees after the war to compensate individual Jews for persecution. and simply to pay for Jewish losses and livelihood and property and to pay for the, you know, the fact that Jews were murdered en masse, incident to this world conspiracy hatched by the German Reich.

And there's a bizarre crassness to it. Like, you'll still hear this from people like Dershowitz. They'll claim that the Jews. Germans stole from us. It's as if they were, as if this elaborate supposed murder conspiracy was devised to steal from people. You know what I mean?

Like it's really, really strange and gross. You know, and I can assure you that even, even if one were to accept these outlandish claims alleged that Nuremberg or people like Shire, I can assure you that nobody carries out murder conspiracies, steal from people you know um particularly a global scale but uh where these numbers were devised quite literally the the indemnity payments were calculated the method the methodology

they're in and uh the decisions around what criteria were going to be controlling it was determined by the conference on Jewish material claims against Germany or the what's what's shorthand is what's called in the claims conference this is an NGO okay I mean initially it was established by a little conference but it's this NGO that was founded in 1951 by a delegation of 23 Jewish NGOs plus the ad now government in the Bundes Republic and according to what's called the property law in Germany specifically section 213 the claims conference is considered to be a representative and successor of Jewish people supposedly victimized by the

Third Reich and its jobs to collect assets and manage lawsuits against the german states and individuals uh availed a liability based on service to the german state you know to extract you know payments based on supposed theft of jewish property and a litany of other reparative monetary remedies relating to the uh the uh the the the Holocaust myth um I believe Julius Berman he's a rabbi and a lawyer based out of Manhattan who became a the director chairman of the board of the organization since 2020 I believe he's still in the role so it's still going very strong okay believe that And, you know, to be clear, too, Adinaur was something of a strange person, you know, who was very elderly by the time he became consular.

But he was selected very deliberately. And, you know, he'd been very much at odds with the national socialist government. And he'd essentially been blacklisted for his activities therein. But he was also this big anti-communist. and he was very much searching for a patron after the war and trying to get back into political life. But he also, frankly, he could be bought. I don't think he was particularly ideological. But Adinawer, he very much became a lackey of Jewish power.

Hans-Rudell famously would have always. only refer to him as a rabbi adenauer and i find that hilarious but uh within the edinauer government uh there was a lot of ex-national socialists um as well as in the i mean the hans spiel was for all practical purposes the you know chief of the of the bundesfair general staff but in the civilian government you know there was you had people directly under adenauer who worked on the norman race laws and things the germans were in a vulnerable the west germans were in a vulnerable position especially considering where cold war tensions were at and they they had to proceed delicately and despite what you know this kind of um revisionist take that a lot of a lot of a lot of cold war

people are passionate about the major Cold War narrative have the Western government did not have a particularly highly real legitimacy and there's a reason why like Ben is now they'd be locked you in prison if you object to policy okay it's not it was not a particularly credible cadre of people um so that was a major cold war politics was a major aspect of this as well and their ability to extort concessions um The Israeli authorities initially in 1951, they made an itemized claim to the four powers authorities. We're getting compensation. And here's the way they calculated it back then and what became ultimately the reparations regime, which while practical purpose is now permanent. they claim that Israel had absorb and resettled half a million quote holocaust survivors and they calculated that in 1951 money that had cost $3,000 per person, which is equivalent to a little over $37,000 in 2026.

They also claim that they were owed $1.5 billion by Germany just for their, Germany's crimes against the Jews as a people. That's about $19 billion today. They also said that they also claim that $6 billion, or the Jewish property had been stolen by the Third Reich. But then they also stressed that Germany can never ever satisfy their debt to the Jewish people by material means, because what they did is beyond the ability to come. comprehend evil or loss or suffering. Like, they literally said this. Like, the Third Reich is more evil than Satan.

It is so uncomprehensibly evil that Germany must always pay these billions of dollars, but their debt can never be satisfied because it's evil beyond comprehension. And if somebody uttered something like that, the correct response is a laugh on their face or call men in white coats to take them away. But, you know, some very, very silly people. in America chose instead to solemnly nod and pretend as if that's not ridiculous horseship. You know, and this, then this is what, this is essentially what came to pass, you know, the form of the reparations agreement. West Germany paid initial sum of, at the time it was around 714 million marks, which,

adjusting the which I believe that was a couple billion dollars according to conversion rates at the time and then for the next 14 years um 450 million marks are paid to the world Jewish Congress and the payments were made the state of Israel that were made to the state of Israel they were uh as a matter of law, Israel was the heir to those victims who had no surviving family. So they were collecting on behalf of dead people with no beneficiaries on grounds that Israel is their heir. That's bizarre. And that's totally without precedent. And a lot of these sums also, the way it was gone about, and the way it has gone about in terms of who takes receipt. A lot of reparations were paid to this office,

or paid to this office in Cologne, which acted as the headquarters of what was referred to as the purchase delegation on behalf of the Israeli government. And the delegation would also, they'd make demands for various, industrial goods and you know advanced machinery and things that would then be sent to a Tel Aviv-based company and would be utilized and beefing up whatever Israel wanted done in terms of their economic or military sector that you know they were prioritizing at the time

you know it's it's totally bizarre you know just basically there's like this permanent There's this permanent delegation that's there from this hyperracist state with a bizarre mythology about itself. And they're there like at the large gas, the occupying authorities to extort money indefinitely and just declare like things they want. You know, relating to, relating to, you know, high tech or or military war tech or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or. tech or what have you. I'm not sure people really grasp how strange all this is, aside from, you know, the obvious other issues. And I mean, to get an understanding of the scale of this, from 1953 until the time of the Eichmann

trial, this reparations money, it started from Germany. it had bankrolled about a third of Israel's electrical system and infrastructure it had covered nearly half of the total cost of Israel's railways

all this entire electrical great and occupied Palestine and the entire railroad system in the Zion estate it was made with German rolling stock tracks signaling equipment machinery all all stuff from

West Germany. And also, too, like if Germans are these horrible, horrible murderers or like more evil in Satan, I mean, would you really want a bunch of German products and infrastructure around you? Like, I wouldn't.

I mean, but I, it just seems incredibly at odds with the stated ethos and ongoing psychological trauma. You know, and the Oh, and I mean, just to another fact, wait, I mean, I don't think this is just trivia.

The thing this is relevant to understanding the scope and scale we're talking about here. About 15% of Israel's annual GNP was owed directly reparations. You know, and the people who are apologists for the, for Ben Gurian, and for the Jewish states early experiments with, you know, planned economics and things, they claim oh, Israel would have found those, they would have secured

funds from other sources, even without the reparations regime. What are their sources? Who was just going to, who was just going to bankroll Israel? No one has everybody able to profit or a meaningful answer to that question. I have posed it to people

who advocate this perspective. but, you know, and like I said, the AdNover government, in addition to the obvious fact of the occupation and things and the division of the country, the Zionists and the occupation authorities really had AdNor by the short hairs. Hans Globka, he was the undersecretary of state and the chairman of the chancellery. And he was basically Adnauhr's right hand on particular on matters of foreign policy and war in peace questions. He was a career Prussian civil servant, and later he directly contributed to the drafting of the Nuremberg race laws. And during Adonar's tenure, about 76% of officials in the, the Bundes Republic's justice ministry were former national socialists. You know, and this was a problem, particularly when the Soviet Union, which arguably was at the peak of its ability to influence political cultures, the developing world.

And this was well before the schismatic controversies of 1968 and the emergence of a dismalion of a dismal. screened that Stalinist tendency, you know, the Soviets could point to, well, the Buddhist Republic is just a reconstituted fascist state, you know, and that played directly into, although for very different reasons, it played obviously directly into Tel Aviv's ambitions and things. Very, very strange situation. Yeah, the book I was talking about, that, you

He outside this discussion, it was Robert Kempner. And the book was literally called Eichmann and his accomplices. You know, again, suggesting that all the outlandish crimes attributed to the Third Reich were carried out, not by Hitler, but by this kind of middling lieutenant colonel who worked for the police. you know i um i realized i didn't really get in but go ahead but is the is this actually strange i mean it's just the typical paraticism that we're we're familiar with i mean all of that money could have been provided by wealthy jews in england france and the united states oh yeah no i what's I don't think what's bizarre is the narrative and the way that it's gone about, and particularly this turning Eichmann into this sort of,

into sort of demonic entity. That's just weird. And the fact that the depth of, there's a weird convergence of circumstances historical and sociological that allowed this to happen. like before or today like 50 years before like in 1900

that couldn't have happened and in 2026 that couldn't have happened there was this weird convergence of the absolute bully pulpit of the regime the disruptive aspects of modern life and future shock that corrupted people's ability to reason

in meaningful capacities and there's a politics, you know, fear of literal annihilation at the, you know, at the hands of the enemy owing to the Cold War military paradigm. A, uh, people needing some sort of scapegoat for real war trauma. I mean, that's a dumb term trauma, but it does have a, there are actual iterations of it. And there was quite a few traumatized people in 1950. And it was all those things.

And, yeah, I'm not surprised that Zionists acted that way and came to act that way. But the ability to sell that narrative is really, really strange and that people accepted it. And particularly, you know, I, no, it's not weird that people are prone to devising Shibilis. worshiping strange lesser gods and things of their own devising but i maintain eichmann was a particularly odd choice of targets but that too i mean that was you know he he came on people's radar because a very corrupt man was essentially looking to profit by selling the man's memoirs that he'd sort to surreptitiously put the paper, you know, and then Eichmann entered the public mind, you know, when his face propped up on the cover of Life magazine, and there was a sort of perfect

convergence of variables whereby he could be transformed into some sort of boogeyman in the public mind, a public mind which the conceptual parameters of which were totally informed by, again, an insurmountable bully pulpit, the power which has never been duplicated before since. That's what I meant. But I, forgive me for not getting into the procedure of the procedural outcomes of Eichmann's trial. That's interesting to me because I I used to praise criminal law, specifically post-conviction appeals. I don't know how interesting it is to other people, but it is important. Although there weren't any real surprises in the record,

if one understands, you know, kind of how the chips were stacked, as it were, really speaking. Sure. Well, you can talk about that in the next episode. Yeah, that'd be great, man. thanks for hosting me of course i'm gonna wrap up uh go check out thomas at real thomas seven777. substack.com and you can go to his website thomas seven77.com the t is a seven and uh as always thank you my friend yeah thank you buddy