The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1421: Reading 'The Nuremberg System' w/ Thomas777 - Part 3

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

44 MinutesPG-13Thomas777 is a revisionist historian and a fiction writer.Pete reads while Thomas comments on his new book, "The Nuremberg System: Conceptual Bases of World Order from 1933 to Present."...The Nuremberg System: Conceptual Bases of World Order from 1933 to PresentRadio Free Chicago - T777 and J BurdenThomas777 MerchandiseThomas' Buy Me a CoffeeThomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 1"Thomas' Book "Steelstorm Pt. 2"Thomas' WebsiteThomas on TwitterThomas' CashApp - $7homas777Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:53 If not, here's a show. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. Thomas is back. We're going to continue the reading of his book, the Nuremberg system. How are you doing today, Thomas? I'm doing well. Thank you for hosting me. Of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:02:09 All right, we're going to jump right in and start reading the chapter that is titled, Europe, Nomos and Civilization. So here we go. Any study or analysis of the conceptual features of the modern world, philosophical, political, or theological, is ipso facto, a study of Europe and Europe Christendom, with a discrete emphasis on the peoples and nations of the northwestern quadrant of the continent. This isn't disputable regardless of one's intellectual preferences and biases or allegiance to a particular methodology or body of theory. The Spanglarian mystic who identifies the Teutonic races as the progenitor and standard bearers of the prime symbols, psychologically speaking, of a Faustian agis and the sociobiologist who abides the conviction that virtually all human social behavior owes to vagaries and new. nuances of heritable intelligence and adaptation, deriving from intense selective pressures over time,
Starting point is 00:03:15 share nothing in common, save for recognition of the basis ontological realities that politics and all subjects and objects therein derives entirely from the white Western cultural mind. How such a state of affairs came to pass and why from approximately 1648 AD until the first decades of what Eric Hobbesbaum referred to as insightfully in this author's opinion, the short 20th century. Can you explain Spanglarian prime
Starting point is 00:03:46 symbols or build and what is meant by Faustian? Well, yeah, Oswald Spangler, he characterized cultural forms and civilizations as a psychological phenomenon at base, okay, psychological and epistemological. So it was the geist or spirit or essence is the way that's generally translated all that's imperfect.
Starting point is 00:04:17 He talked about a civilizational form or a cultural form as deriving from you know a set of conceptual assumptions and aesthetical preferences and modalities of life
Starting point is 00:04:33 that had strong symbolic psychological resonance and came to be characterized by what he called prime symbols. You know, an example might be if you take a, you know, Chinese civilization, for example, the idea of the constant and perennial whole and the centrality of China. China is the middle kingdom. It's the center around which all other things orbit. it. Okay. And if you take something like Doric Athens or Athens at its cultural peak, arguably, you know, Pericles, Athens, there's these high-relief freezes where there's a sort of sensuously present individual body, but there's nothing in front of or behind him. You know, there is simply the present. There's this constant, in a state of being. You know, and that was the classical view of cosmology. There was no beginning or end to the cosmos.
Starting point is 00:05:43 The Faustian civilization is what Spangler called, referred to European civilization as. And he said that gothic spires are one of its prime symbols, this sort of constant striving and racing against time with the ever-present understanding that you know existence is temporarily limited and there is there is an Armageddon or a Ragnarok or
Starting point is 00:06:12 an end of time you know and overcoming those mortal limitations on striving for what amounts to godhood is what characterizes
Starting point is 00:06:29 sort of the Aryan heroic self-concept. And some of the Islamic scholars worth reading, it's not an accident that Christ was God incarnate. You know, the Faustian
Starting point is 00:06:49 Aegis and the Faustian self-concept is striving for godhood. And that's both the strength of Western man that's also was downfalling to his hubris. you know, obviously the the big rebuttal to that mode of thought
Starting point is 00:07:07 was that this is just, you know, German mysticism for the 20th century and it can't be empirically modeled and, you know, what have you. But my point was that even Anglophone empiricists
Starting point is 00:07:23 wouldn't deny that when we talk about political reality, you know, we talk about ethics in conceptual terms, where we're talking about things wholly derived from the Western mind. You know, that's why it's silly to entertain arguments from people who want to talk about, quote, unquote, colonialism, which has become sort of a dummy catch-all for supposed, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:52 immoral acts in the historical record at scale, when that itself is wholly derivative of a Western concept of ethics. and Western moral paradigms. And, of course, the people who afford that argument, everything from the language they speak, to the foods they eat, to their manner of dress, to their social habits, to their moral assumptions, is 100% derived from Western ideas and modes of life.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So they're the children who hate their parents. All right. Moving on. How do the people's indigenous to a land area scarcely larger than the state of Texas, perched on a continent constituting a little more than a peninsula, largely barren of arable land, ecologically harsh and unforgiving, and geographically and strategically vulnerable to assault from without, owing to a dearth of natural, to dearth of natural garrison features, not merely survive and thrive, but conquer the earth,
Starting point is 00:08:58 and not merely by way of land appropriation and military supremacy, but conceptually. The modern world is entirely the product of the European mind, not simply in terms of how human lives are directed, structured, and organized by Western technologies and productive modalities and techniques, but also, and far more historically impactful, the moral, ontological, and logical discourse and dialectical language of modernity remains entirely European in character and origin. Even those who condemn the state of affairs do so in the conceptual terms inherent. to Western moral discourse, bastardized and often shorn of fundamental intellectual rigor as such
Starting point is 00:09:39 claims may be. It is inarguable that this state of affairs, the universal categorical domination of human minds and conceptual reality across the entirety of the globe by a single cultural form and derivative tendencies, emergent proximate and essentially from intellectual postulates therein is without precedent in recorded history. So how did this small peninsula do you? do something that hadn't been done in history, basically dominate the world culturally, politically, every possible scheme that you can think of? Well, I mean, that's what I get into in this chapter. We haven't gotten there yet.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Well, it was a combination of mastery of the driving elements of historical and civilizational development, which through the imposition of a total... spectrum dominion over the lives of others meant that there was no way to conceptualize life outside of those parameters once people were assimilated into it and those who couldn't assimilate were annihilated either because they were so recalcitrant and violent you know like like planes apaches or something that they just perished in by way of annihilation therapy or in the course of race wars, or they just died out because they couldn't adapt.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You know, and there is such a thing as a kind of existential despair setting in when one's race cannot adapt to extant circumstances. I mean, that's why one of my favorite movies is Apocalyptic, and I realize that it's sort of a pastiche of different Mesoamerican civilizations. but there's a remarkable poignancy to it not just because the actors and actresses are all indigenous people who are appropriately situated in the region
Starting point is 00:11:46 but you know when the when the Aztec warriors they finally start kissing up to Jaguar paw and he reaches the ocean they see the conquistadors coming and so the Aztecs just stop what they're doing and like stare at gait because everything that all the assumptions they had to that point cease to be significant you know and uh something like the Aztec empire can't coexist when
Starting point is 00:12:22 armored white men with firearms and arrive with their priests behind them and technology in tow you know there's a this is the same motif as the book in the movie Stalker the book gets more into this but you know that the film Stalker is one of the best Russian films ever made and Soviet cinema was actually really high quality it's odd
Starting point is 00:12:51 the cultural products the communists were able to create like those they excelled at they tended to do very well at you know disproportionately so although admittedly they they were few in number but in the novel stalker these extraterrestrials touch down on earth but they only do for a fraction of a second
Starting point is 00:13:14 so nobody has direct contact with them and nobody sees them but they leave behind all these artifacts some of which are incredibly dangerous like one of which is this almost sort of gaites but anybody who tries to like pass through it their body gets basically turned inside out and they die horribly. There's this other object, I think it's a sphere
Starting point is 00:13:36 and when in proximity to it, whatever the observer conceptualizes becomes manifest in reality, but only for a few minutes. So if you think of a beautiful woman, a beautiful woman will appear, if you think of a basketball, a basketball will appear, or if you think of
Starting point is 00:13:55 like a BLT will appear. And so this territory is off limit. but there's this black market of people called stalkers who sneak in there and they steal artifacts and bring them out to sell the rich people or governments or whoever is able to pay. But the stalkers also, they'll take people into the forbidden zone and guide them around these myriad dangers. But the point is the framing device is that civilization-based, basically this was catastrophic
Starting point is 00:14:34 what this happened. Just the fact that people develop knowledge of ETs that they exist, that they're godlike compared to us and they can devise things through their technologies that for practical purposes are magic.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You know, after that, human innovation just dropped off and, you know, the great nations of the world went into precipitous decline. And you know, there was an epidemic of suicide and mental illness. You know, and that's really
Starting point is 00:15:06 profound because at scale, at massive and punctuated scale, that's basically what happened to, you know, these Meso-American empires when they had contact with the west. The exception
Starting point is 00:15:25 is the Japanese because the Japanese were essentially when when Commodore Perry's guns forced them to engage with the West. The Japanese were essentially
Starting point is 00:15:39 in the early modern period of the late Middle Ages as we consider it. And then within a hundred years, essentially, they caught up. And then they started surpassing people like the Russians. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And that's never happened before to my knowledge. You know, I mean, I'm sure some variant of that happened, you know. in that time of Hamarabi or something, but not to the same characteristic degree or whatever,
Starting point is 00:16:10 but that's why. I'm going to get more into this process and the follow up to this volume. Cool. Moving on. Yeah. Which is why perhaps the cultural form and the human material that constitutes its original manifestation and most natural hosts
Starting point is 00:16:32 to the modern conceptual horizon. has been so thoroughly corrupted from within by a Jewish element that is both entirely alien owing to the existential character of its absolute enmity to Occidental Christendom, yet peculiarly familiar owing to the Jewish people's unique relationship to and uniquely politicized sociological existence within, Europe and the modern epoch, and of course to America, owing to the fact of the latter's embodiment of a secular humanist zeitgeist, which, however, deconant and insiniscite, to value creation, cultural productivity, and racial survival holds an intense persuasive power unique to political theologies. When you say the latter there that is embodying the embodiment of the secular humanist zeitgeist, you're talking about America? I'm talking about the Jewish people. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Okay. That's what I was trying to figure out there. Sorry. Just, um... That's right. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So moving on. The Second World War or the phase of what the late philosopher, historian, Nick Ernst Nolte. Did you hear me almost say Nick Nolte? A great man in his own right, but I don't think you're a political philosophy. Wish he did. The Second World War or the phase of what the late philosopher, historian Ernst Nolte referred to as a European Civil War that spans September 1939 to August of 19th,
Starting point is 00:18:03 1945, cost the lives of approximately 3% of the population of planet Earth. During these six years, modern combined arms warfare was invented and utilized a splendid effect, and the first and thus far only instance of nuclear warfare came to pass as a devastating conclusion to hostilities, the pointless brutality of the latter, shocking the consciences of even some zealous ideologues who had served the then outgoing New Dealer regime. No aspect, battle theater, nor constituent element or constellation of events or processes within the aforementioned phase of the conflict approaches a total and absolutely ideological and historical nature and significance of the Titanic struggle between the German Reich and its several allies contrary the USSR.
Starting point is 00:18:51 European manhood representing over two dozen nations deployed to constitute million strong army groups across an 800-kilometer front under command of the messianic artist-turned-warlord Adolf Hitler. Opposing this fascistic army of the nations was the mightiest military apparatus ever assembled, thus mobilized by the world's first true warfare state, animated by a megacidal doctrine of world revolution, and commanded by a seminarian turned apostate Khan in Joseph Stalin. I'm just reading that. I was thinking about the level of propaganda that we've dealt with in that when you see
Starting point is 00:19:36 how many countries sent volunteers or people from different countries volunteered to fight with the German Reich. and you would, the opposite is true in court history. Our court history says, no, everybody, everybody rallied to save Europe and save the world from this, from this German menace that was going to enslave everybody and kill every people group that they didn't like. I mean, is there any, is there any way that we can look at how, what we've come to learn as anything but to sound, I know it sounds, you sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it had to come
Starting point is 00:20:23 from somewhere. And it has to be a conspiracy that what most people believe today is the opposite of what you've written here. Yeah. And that's, well, it's also too. I mean, there's people don't understand Europe and they don't, they don't really spend any time. Americans are actually very provincial. And part of that is because America is so huge. And I'm not, I'm not saying people should take it upon themselves to become some kind of student of other civilizations and cultures, if that's not something that they're suited to do at all. But I continue to be amazed that people's mouth off on complex points of history as if they have some take when they know nothing. And the whole point of, you don't understand, one of the reasons why I praise Brendan Sims series on Hitler so much. is because it cuts to the core of the stuff that Hitler addressed in what is called the second book,
Starting point is 00:21:24 which was, you know, not just the fears, but national socialist foreign policy. And if you don't understand that Europe had to become a superpower to survive, and that's what was in the minds of the control element of the Third Reich, you don't understand the war and you don't understand the conflict paradigm. And everything from the fact that the Vof and SES, its point of pride was that, you know, we're an army of a thousand flags, verbally speaking, to the fact that the Reich News Agency cast itself as European news and their version of the movie tone news, it would say, obviously would start with what's
Starting point is 00:22:04 happening on the various fronts. But then it'd be, you know, this is a report from Vienna, this is a report from Croatia, this is a report from Slovakia, this is a report from France, you know, this is a report from Denmark. You know, that because they, that European sensibility was, I mean, it was a very real thing, but also they were doing everything they could to inculcate people with it. Like nationalism was dead. Nobody thought that way anymore. And the people who did, you know, famously, I'm talking in the 1920, he's like right after Anton Drexler,
Starting point is 00:22:40 pretty amicably, when Hitler plays Drexler, Drexler was happy. Drexler was the original chairman of the of the National Socialist Workers Party back when it was back when it was just the DAP you know and Drexler
Starting point is 00:22:56 he was happy to hand over the range to Hitler and Drexler actually was well treated later he was honored you know and things like that but he uh you know Hitler and Drexler made the point that these these kind of provincial Bavarians who are like demanding some sort of Bavarian national
Starting point is 00:23:19 state or these people who, you know, refuse to think in terms of a European civilization against the Bolsheviks and America, they're idiots and they're not people who are historically situated in a conceptual sense. You know, I mean, this was the whole, this was the entire zeitgeist. And in terms of practice, You know, this was what was underway in America and the Soviet Union and the German Reich. And all three, the two actual superpowers and the burgeoning European superpower were they devised different ways to address the same question. You know, the Soviets called it the nationalities problem. You know, America cast it as, you know, civil rights and trying to essentially deracinate everybody.
Starting point is 00:24:13 into this sort of new American identity, which is sort of a perverted mirror of the new era identity that was curated by people like Wilson, which was explicitly European and in origin, but also had this discernible Americanist stamp on it. But yeah, to bring it back, I don't understand why people just pontificates if they have some, as if they have some opinion on the war, when they've literally, they've never,
Starting point is 00:24:49 they've never read a single page of worthwhile scholarship relating to it. They know nothing about it. They, they've never studied the subject matter. They've just decided they have some opinion because they watched a Hollywood movie or something. You know, so I, I, I don't get it either. But yes, you're not wrong. Well, maybe a lot of it has to do with the fact that, We live in a society that tells everybody that they're allowed to have their opinion, but their opinion, most people's opinions, and I assume that this is something that's been since the beginning of time, they're based on emotion, and especially in the last 200 years,
Starting point is 00:25:31 based on morality more than anything. So somebody is told that this group of people over here are immoral, and this group of people over here may have been immoral too, but they were less immoral than these people, so we needed to fight the less immoral people. And it's, I think that's why. I think that people just, everything is. I'm sure you're right.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It just irritates me. It'd be like if I decided I have some hard as fuck opinion on some esoteric matter of quantum physics. You know, it's like you don't just get to declare that you understand, you know, thousands of years of historical phenomena because you read an internet. post or like you you watched a movie or something i mean that that's that's obtuse to the point that
Starting point is 00:26:18 it's beyond you know the normal and sufferability of people deciding they're you know they're entitled to an opinion i don't know why people decided that history of gravel questions and and and political theory is just something that everybody intrinsically understands it's not you know like most people don't grasp it i don't grasp it i'm not i'm not in a smarter than anybody else, but I, my skill set tends towards being able to conceptualize these sorts of systems and interpret data within relevant paradigms. There's like some people are good at math, or some people are brilliant music theory people, or some guys can design a house and then build it, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:03 That just happens to more skill set is. I mean, I know this is the minority, but it also reminds me of, and not to shit on the subs too hard, but the subs who are complaining about the difficulty of reading this. And it's like, well, there might be one of the reasons it may be difficult to read this is because it's a complex subject and maybe not everybody's built to understand it. Well, that, I just stopped, I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm very blessed that I'm, I, everybody, I mean, I'm very, I'm very, guys. Yeah, yeah. You have a very kind of me and the book is popping and for something like this, that's that's pretty incredible but all i is like half of people are complaining that it's too
Starting point is 00:27:44 short half of people are complaining that it's too complicated it's like i don't know man like what do what do you want so i should write a nine-over-page book of of cliff notes i mean i you know it is what it is man this is this is the best i could come up with right now i'm new to this so just please accept it for what it is not you i mean i'm talking generally of course um let's hit a few more paragraphs here. Opposing this fascistic army of the nations was the mightiest military apparatus ever assembled, thus mobilized by the world's first true warfare state, animated by a megacidal doctrine of world revolution and commanded by a seminarian turned apostate con in Joseph Stalin. 80% of the men born in the USSR in the year 1923 died between 1941 and 1944.
Starting point is 00:28:35 A total of one in seven Soviet citizens lost their lives. German military casualties in the same period of years told close to 7 million, including over 4 million KIA. Nor were German non-combatants spared destruction of the body, psyche, or spirit. As the dust settled over a ruined Europe, devastated by merciless total war, the continent was subjected to an unprecedented campaign of organized rape, the stripping of productive capital by the Red Army and the theretofore unprecedented in scale, organized ethnic cleansing of millions of Germans and Volksdeutsch by American authorities.
Starting point is 00:29:19 These events ushered in a new and permanent phase of the anti-fascist crusade as conceptualized and implemented. From the moment, Soviet forces pierced the German Reich, an orgy of calculated sexual violence at massive scale ensued. girls and women aged 10 to 80 were raped many until dead. Alexander Solzhenyce and the Nobel laureate, who was then a young Red Army officer, described the horror in his narrative poem Prussian Knights. Quote, The little daughter is on the mattress, dead. How many have been on her? A platoon?
Starting point is 00:29:53 A company, perhaps? It is impossible to calculate the number of women and girls, including infants so victimized. a high proportion of the approximately 15 million German women who either lived in the Soviet occupation zone or who were among the millions of Volks Deutsch who were indigenous to the eastern provinces and were expelled by design vis-à-vis the Allies ethnic cleansing operations undoubtedly endured such violent indignities. The scale of allied sexual violence against European women folk is indicated by the fact that approximately two million German women sought abortions legal and illegal every year from 1945 to 1948. Considering Americans and the American authorities, either stood by and watched this happen,
Starting point is 00:30:46 and by standing by and watched this happening, approved it. When you look at the history of Occidental Christendom, is this the way Occidental Christendom, European Christendom, prosecuted war? No, I mean, it comes back to what I talked about the last episode with the Westphalian consensus because truly horrible things that happen in the 30 years war.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And sectarian conflicts, like race wars are particularly horrendous. But this was unthinkable, you know, and just the idea of allowing I mean, that's what underlies people like, you know, Pat and put it to Eisenhower and Montgomery, who I think was something of a buffoon, but to his credit, both of them were shocked that, you know, the command authorities, the American command authorities, civilian and military were something going to allow the Red Army to conquer Europe. you know iisanoe famously said you know who would want berlin and and and and patten said well i think history will answer that question for you what you course it did but beyond the fact that you know berlin is is the heart of europe and you know germany is the productive engine of europe
Starting point is 00:32:10 you don't allow a barbarian invasion of your own civilization but you also don't you don't you don't you don't area bomb your own civilization in into rubble like nobody does that that. You know, but I mean, that's, I emphasize the Ross and Krieg aspect of the, of the new dealers in this book for precisely that reason. And I believe I, it's difficult to get dead on this because of the censoriousness of, of court historians. And to be clear, even some of the sources I cited here, like Nick Turs, he's a lefty. He wrote extensively on the Vietnam War, but he does put out some worthwhile scholarship. He spent weeks and months at the National Archives,
Starting point is 00:33:00 you know, pulling data on the Mili 4 incident. And then as soon as his book was published and there became a lot of buzz about it because it was a New York Times bestseller, suddenly you can no longer access any of that material at the National Archives. You know, so I've tried to find data. about rape and the Western occupation zones. And I mean, obviously, it wasn't anything near what was going on in the East, where it wasn't as tolerated.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It was encouraged and organized and sanctioned. But I believe there was more individuals like Emmett Till's father, the rapist and murderer of women, than is alleged. You know, I, again, I don't think it was any kind of epidemic, but I think it happened more than most people would. speculate and well like I said it's it's difficult to find a hard reliable data on such things and also it wasn't it wasn't a core aspect of the of the manuscript so but yeah I mean that's that is a quite unbelievable all right this is the last section that I'm to read. I timed it out if we would have done the whole chapter. We'd have been here for an hour and a half, two hours. So, split this up. All right, here we go. Concommonately, the Western
Starting point is 00:34:35 Allies were every bit as committed to the physical destruction of Europe and its people, as were their communist ideological brethren. British and American strategic bombers incinerated tens of thousands of German civilians within hours. Over 100,000 perished in the destruction of Dresden alone, at least half that number over a mere two days of area bombing at Hamburg. Reich Minister Joseph Goebbels lamented in the midst of this earliest iteration of Shokhanov firepower turned indiscriminately against non-military targets, that it was inconceivable even to the most depraved mind or cynical heart that the Americans and the British, the latter of whom had been offered unconditional peace on half a dozen occasions since London's ill-fated and strategically illogical.
Starting point is 00:35:22 War Declaration against Germany would be presiding over the systematic physical destruction of Europe in alliance with the Bolsheviks. It was a betrayal, sight unseen, since the declining Spartan city state had chosen alliance with the Persian Empire to facilitate the destruction of their fellow Greeks. Simply stated, the occupation and four decades-long partition of Germany signified not the cessation of hostilities. Rather, it was merely the beginning of the ongoing Rossin-Greek against Europe by its mortal enemy America. So let's finish up with this. I think people will read about the mass incineration of civilians,
Starting point is 00:36:02 and in what has become their poisoned minds, they'll find a way to rationalize it. But at the same time, they'll read that America is the immortal enemy of Europe in protest. Why should no one protest that America is the mortal enemy of Europe? because America Waves a genocidal war on Europe and alliance with the Bolsheviks And
Starting point is 00:36:23 The Russian situation is complicated You know like I said The way Hitler and the way Subsequently people at Karl Volf I consider to be a highly reliable Fact witness You know the
Starting point is 00:36:43 It goes without saying that The Alien element to the east is the enemy of Europe and in some existential capacity you know there's a difference between a struggle between civilizations
Starting point is 00:36:58 in the absence of moral consensus where horrible stuff happens obviously the animating catalyst of communism made the Soviet Union particularly dangerous and the dialectical process underway in the 20th century rendered the stakes very binary
Starting point is 00:37:15 and this this was a that this multiplied the violence of the affair. That is different than the New Dealers waging an ideological war of choice, the purpose of which is essentially to socially engineer European identities and the white race out of existence. I mean, that's enmity at historical, biological, spiritual, moral level,
Starting point is 00:37:45 rolled into one. If you want to push back on that, that okay, I mean, I, if you, if you slate people of your own civilization for annihilation, going to an ideological imperative, whereby, you know, your causes belly is destruction by annihilation therapy and subsequent social engineering, there's no other way to characterize it. And I'm not being polemical or saying silly things to cause controversy. And like I said, the Germans recognize this early on. Yeah, and as we talked about in the last episode,
Starting point is 00:38:39 basically the excuse that many will fall back on, whether intentionally or they've been engineered to say so is, well, look what they were doing to this. group of people who, look how they targeted this group of people who, what, I'm sorry, as a white European, what's your tie to these people? Well, that too. And I mean, the thing is, like, America's not the super friends. And, you know, the America's role, the role of the American executive isn't to rush
Starting point is 00:39:12 the defense of the Jewish people when they're under threat. I mean, I made that point before, too, even if everything alleged that Nuremberg was true, even if Hitler was the most evil man who ever lived, you don't annihilate your own civilization because Hitler is mean to Jews or because he's a bad man. I mean, anybody who thinks that way as something wrong with them. And just the fact of positing the Jewish people at the center of ethical discussion is problematic. You know, that's not, and even if one's conceptual prejudice is skew that way, even if you accept the Von C. Conference really happened,
Starting point is 00:39:52 and that what constituted it was what was alleged in Nürmber. Even if you accept that entire narrative as factual, well, then these events that led to annihilation therapy at scale being directed against European Jewry didn't happen until 1942. The war was already underway, so that wasn't the causes of Belie. America didn't go to war with Germany and unconditionally support the Soviet Union in their war against the Reich
Starting point is 00:40:24 to save the Jewish people. You know, like was noted by even people on the left who were qualifiedly, you know, alliter with America first. By by the time
Starting point is 00:40:40 America was making war on Germany, the Soviet Union had killed more Jewish people than the German rank had. you know so that that's not the cause of spilly war too you can't fall back on that even if it weren't ethically absurd to say that we we had to destroy Germany because jewish people were in jeopardy that was an effect of hostility is not a cause so arguably our arguably America made things
Starting point is 00:41:11 worse on this population that supposedly was so arbitrarily targeted well i just want everyone to know that i actually think the von c conference happened because I saw an HBO movie. Why, and why did everybody in that movie, why were they all English guys, and why was Kenneth Brauna? Like, the only way they could have found a guy who looked and seemed less like
Starting point is 00:41:34 Reinhardt-Hydric than Kenneth Brawnah as if they cast some black guy. Like, why would that even occur to you? Like, yeah, Kenneth the Brano, he seems like Heinrich Himmler. And I think, uh, or like Reinhardt-Hydric, I mean, and I think, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:50 they cast, uh, There's some morbidly obese guy. You played Hans Frank for no reason. It's like, why is Hans Frank this giant fat guy? You know, like that doesn't make any sense. You know, well, the best, though, the most awesome thing ever and the most like non-self-aware thing ever, there's this ridiculous movie that like bad, sad, dumpy little Debbie Lipstadt commissioned, where it's about, it's about the Irving's like libel suit against Penguin Books.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Debbie Lipsstadt, who literally looks like Gene Hackman in a dress or something, like she's played by Natalie Portman, you know, and, uh, and, and the guy who plays Irving is this guy who looks like Mr. Bean or something, you know, and he's like, well, unshaven and like, uh, like looks like a bum. It's like, nobody's that oblivious other than people like Debbie Lipsstadt. Like, they'd be like, they'd be like, if Alan Dershowitz made a movie about himself and like cast Ryan Gosling as himself. Like, like, nobody's that oblivious, you know? Like, even people, uh, like, even people are sympathetic to this like sad, pitiable little woman. We're like, okay, but there's something like distasteful about this woman deciding she looks like Natalie Portman.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But it's like, how oblivious can you be? You know, like I. Yeah. Well, anyway, everybody go by Thomas's book. It's on paperback. It's on Kindle. There is no official audio book. out there, so don't go looking for it,
Starting point is 00:43:24 even though some faggot is trying to sell one on Spotify. And if you wanna catch up with Thomas, go over to real Thomas-777.substack.com or check out his website, Thomas-777.com, where the T is a seven. Until the next time, Thomas. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, buddy.

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