The Pete Quiñones Show - Inquisition 32: Jose Nino w/ Astral, Thomas777 and Pete on Latin America and The Epstein Files

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

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Welcome back to the Inquisition. And today we have a very special guest joining me and Pete and Thomas. Jose Niño is here. Jose, what's up, man? I've been following your work very closely the last couple of months. Oh, thank you so much for having me on. I really look forward to the discussion. And also, I appreciate you following my work as well, Astro.

Yeah, I mean, I've seen you around a while, but it was really when you started talking about Venezuela that I not only like dug into your work, but I started following the links that you share in your articles, and I've learned a lot. And you'd had a great episode with Pete, myth of the 20th century. You had a pretty strong week. So you guys have covered a lot.

So I want to just jump right into it because we have a lot to cover in a short amount of time. So, you know, taking all of our previous conversations in context here, the first thing I want to talk to you about, and the reason I invited you on was to talk about China and Israel in Latin America. because if there's any angle for me to get behind what we're doing in Venezuela, it's because of what China's doing there and the influence that China's having in our hemisphere. They're obviously, you know, I don't have to make the argument.

I've made it elsewhere that China is not our friend, at least in many major ways, fentanyl trade embargoes, violating trade embargoes, et cetera. But through your work, through following your links and reading much more about Latin America, I see that China is all over Latin America and so is Israel. So what's going on there? I mean, how do you want to start talking about China and Israel? And are they vying for control and influence over South America? Well, start off, China is more economically involved in Latin America. And that's generally the byproduct of the fact that after the global war on terror,

especially during that era, the U.S. started to just stop looking at Latin America. And as a result, China has expanded its trade portfolio, not just across like Asia, Africa, but also in Latin America, just get raw materials like copper, like from Chile and other countries. It's more economically dominant in South America

than it is in Central America, with exception of maybe countries like Panama. But it's mostly in the economic terms where it's much more dominant. It's not very, even in Venezuela, which is one of the countries it's been mostly involved in, there's very little evidence, contrary to what a lot of neocon and interventionist type say that that relationship was turning into like a military type, where they're going to set up bases like in a Cuban missile crisis style fashion. It's very much in the economic terms. Now, Israel is interesting because it's been involved in the region for actually a while.

And one of the first countries that you saw very intense military cooperation with Israel is Guatemala during its civil war in the early 60s up until the 90s. And there's a multitude of reasons for this relationship. Guatemala was one of the first countries to recognize the state of Israel in the late 40s. It's also a country where the United States was heavily involved in with regards to promoting pro-Zionist evangelical Christianity there. And that created a natural, well, really an artificial base of support for Zionism in Guatemala. and when you had the Civil War, there, Guatemala was traded, bargoughed by numerous countries, so it turned to Israel for armaments and other military support.

Since then, there have been other countries over the years that have increasingly been subjected to Israeli influence. Panama, for example, Manuel Noriego, his handler was apparently a guy by the name of Mike Hariri, who was a Mossad commander of sorts and a director for a lot of assassinations. And towards the end of his career in the late 80s, he was really embedded in Latin American affairs and was close to Noriega. And apparently, he was able to get the drop on Noriega right before. the Americans invaded and he was able to learn firsthand beforehand that the U.S. planning to invade Panama and take out

Noriega so he skipped town and he ended up just going back to Israel but since then especially after the end of the Cold War during the unipolar moment many countries in Latin America started to normalize or at least strengthened ties of Israel. For example, Argentina during its so-called neoliberal era of the 1990s, where

many of these countries started opening up their markets to not just like the U.S., but also just broader Jewish finance, they began to normalize relations with Israel, especially Argentina. And Argentina is probably the crown jewel right now because they have the most phyosemitic pro-Israel president in Javier Mulei. And that project's been decades in the making in many respects because

with the administration of Carlos Menem in the 1990s who ironically is of Syrian Muslim confession but he converted the Catholicism that's when this financialization happened and also the normalization of relations with Argentina happened and them getting also the election of Bolsonaro who gave a boost to this project as well because he is how you're Bolsonaro

is very connected to many global Zionist networks that promote a lot of like the so-called zio populism as I like to label it in Latin America and the United States which is a bunch of populist parties that are very pro-Zionists

and that have numerous pro-Zionist patrons and that has also been gaining momentum him. And though the linchpin is clearly Argentina with Millay, and now you have got the Isaac Cords, which is like a diplomatic initiative being rolled out by Belay and just really the broader Jewish network that supports him, that just wants to make Latin America a safe space for Jewish supremacy. And they're looking at countries such as obviously Argentina, Paraguay.

And then others like Chile, Costa Rica, Panama, as signatories for the Isaac Accords. And this is a project that goes kind of beyond like the neo-conservatism of your. Now it's just more explicit about making the world safe, not for democracy, but for Jewish supremacy. And they're extrapolating the Abraham Accords model that we see in the Middle East to Latin America. and that's how what's starting to really gain a lot of traction there. Well, I mean, Argentina, just real quick, I mean, Argentina was literally the loci of the national socialist resistance after the war. Johann von Wierrez was there.

Hans Ulrich Roodell was literally like a minister without portfolio to Peron. Otto Scorsini was a paramour of a Vita Peron. For all great of all purposes, it was a national socialist state. They hated Israel. you know um that's why there's it almost became a something of a comedic convention and something like the boys from brazil like oh argentina there's a bunch of ex-nais running around there you know i mean there's a reason why um Jose is absolutely Jose is absolutely right i put Honduras on there too

after during the surge and when Blackwater was uh kind of uh having trouble with their with their public image and they started to kind of reconstitute and shift personnel around those branding. They got a bunch of Honduran mercenaries on their payroll who are running around in Iraq. And that, I mean, that goes back

to the Cold War, but the Honduras government is as thick as thieves with... Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, these Zionist outfits. Yeah, go ahead, Jose. I didn't mean to interrupt. No, I forgot to mention as well,

Juan Orlando or Hernandez. the guy that Trump recently pardoned the former president. He, for all intents and purposes, based on my research, he's actually can be argued to be not just like a pro-Israel supporter, which he was during his time as president. He was a pretty much of Basat, an Israeli asset, because, for example, he was trained. in the 90s, like as a young man under this program called Meshav, which is like the Israeli

Agency for International Development Cooperation. For all intensive purposes, it's a good Israeli soft power type of program that's used to do outreach in the global south, especially in many of these Central American countries with large evangelical populations and also in Africa increasingly as well. This is like a go-to program, and he was cultivated as. as a asset of sorts. And for his work in Honduras, he received like a friend of Zion Award.

And he was also very connected to certain elements of of Honduran Jewry, the Rosenthal family. For example, Jaime Rosenthal, who was the owner of a prominent bank and soccer club in the country, a group continental, that's like the consortium, was a notable backer of Hernandez, and Rosenthal himself was a perennial presidential candidate, but he found more of a role as a kingmaker there.

Yeah, Central America is, especially Guatemala and Honduras, those are two key pro-Zionist countries. I would also add pre-Gustavo Petro, Colombia, as well given the fact that Colombia was the United States most reliable security partner in South America. It's also received significant military aid in trading from Israeli state and also from mercenaries like Yai or Klein.

I wrote a recent article about him, as well of my villains of Judea series. on substack and he was also quite prominent there and i think that's another country that's going to be on the isaacord's list probably one of the top priorities because of the fact that it really went on it and took a anti-zionist turn under gusavo petro who's going to be out of office in a few months anyways but they're definitely have their eyes on columbia but central america is where it seems to be it's where Israeli influence is at its strongest

in Latin America. For example, another interesting factoid about going back to Panama, it is the only country in Latin America that does it recognize the state of Palestine either. Let me ask a question. When I looked into like the drug trade coming out of Venezuela, and then when I saw them reinstall or at least let out of prison the guy from Honduras, something occurred to me that you basically just verified. My suspicion is that these guys are going to take over the,

when I say these guys, I mean like the Israelis, Mossad, the CIA. My suspicion is that they're doing this to like retake over to take back the drug trade. If I remember correctly, I think it was 2009. There was a coup, a U.S.-backed coup in Honduras that, ousted the leader. And I don't know if this guy Hernandez was immediately installed at that time, but he came to power after that coup. And then, you know, Honduras became like the central drug trafficking hub from

Central America, which was preceded by Panama as a central drug trafficking hub when the CIA and Mossad and all these Israelis were there. So my suspicion is that they're like, among other things, they're doing other things, too. They're taking over, they're going to take over the drug trade. with this Venezuela thing. And what you said about Colombia is very interesting. Because without Colombia, they couldn't traffic the drugs east through Colombia.

They'd have to go south. I think it's a lot of cap with Trump talking about drugs. Like it's 1990. Oh, it's 100% cap. But one of the problems with that entire narrative of the, of the state department and the White House, there's not this cartel structure like there was 30 years ago. It doesn't exist.

You know, I mean, yeah, what the regime calls cartels. There's guys under arms who basically can tax anybody who's trying to move weight through the territory they control. But the idea there's this top-down structure where there's some guy like Escobar, and he controls exclusive monopoly access to where coca is being harvested. And, you know, everywhere down from production, refinement, distribution to the point of purchase, his organization controls that. that doesn't exist. And one of the reasons why there's all this garbage, literal poison, ending up on the American street, it's just like Frankenstein synthetic opiates. There's probably not even any real cocaine on the street anymore.

And such that there is, it's coming from half a dozen places. And it's upstart guys just doing shit. You know, I mean, like, that's what it is. So, I mean, I don't. And plus two anymore, I mean, don't get me wrong. There's like due power and money all over the global drug trade. but it's basically, when it being clear, you couldn't do like what the Stacler family did anymore domestically. Those guys are fucking around over this planet, man, like literally.

You know, like pumping that poison into Africa. It's being prescribed. They're doing it in, you know, all over the global south. You know, they're doing it. I'm sure they're plugged into these, I'm sure they're plugged into some of these health care charities. You know, they're flooding, supposedly underserved areas, you know, with medications and doctors without borders and stuff. I mean, some of those NGOs do good things, but some of them do not. Okay, I'm not cleaning everybody with the same brush.

But that's important to understand. And what changed everything, and I'll hand a big case in a second, you know, the global heroin trade collapsed after the Taliban took over Afghanistan. It doesn't exist anymore. You might be able to find, that's why the only seizures you hear about are fentanyl. You might, if you go down to the southwest, you might be able to find guys, I mean, I have no idea. You might be able to find, you might find guys moving, like, low-quality tar heroin over the border.

But, I mean, that's it. Like, the whole narco trade is, it's dominated by synthetic garbage that literally poisons and kills people. There's dozens of people trying to cash in on it because the lociye production can literally be anywhere if you have the precursors. It's really complicated. I think the big Venezuela, the big reason Venezuela was targeted. I mean, it's what Jose said. They were a resistance element contra the Zionist power play.

But they also, when they decided, when they announced that they were going to pursue full membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, that was it. Okay. You're going to get murked if you do that. And frankly, whether I think that's good or bad, I mean, that is congruous with the Monroe doctor

and as intended in in press practice as it's been for the last 100 years uh yeah go ahead well one of the um i talked with an old friend yesterday keith preston i know jose is uh yes jose is familiar with him um you know basically release an episode tonight he's saying you know even if you get this this whole structure of multi polarity even if it is instituted it's still globally It's still going to work in a global framework. The financialization of markets isn't going away. The drug trade isn't stopping. This is just it's, it's a, it's to try to keep a structure.

It's trying to keep a people happy and to keep people, you know, fat and satisfied so that they don't figure out exactly what's going on. Oh, things are getting better. We're going to just worry about our own hemisphere. But it's still going to be globalism. it's still going to be all the trappings of Judea. So, I mean, it doesn't really mean anything. Well, that's also, I mean, Trump, look at exactly what Trump does.

It's like, it's like Carl said the other week. Trump says things and then it doesn't do anything. Like even, I mean, sometimes I think that's good because he'll talk, you know, all this shit about it was going to destroy Iran, but then there's never any execution. But he'll talk about, you know, his whole. supposedly on the foreign policy front, his entire platform was, you know, we're going to stop, we're going to put a stop these entanglements that are so wasteful and precluding a sensible foreign policy. So like Zelensky gets like more American money and like more weapons.

You know, I mean, it's like, and then his, I mean, said it all the fact that during Trump's first term, you had these, you had these Pentagon fairies, uh, talking, like proudly talking about how You know, they were engaged in active and subordination, and they simply don't execute the president's orders when it's not with their little make-work program in Afghanistan. Like, what the fuck is that? So basically, Trump is admitting he's a cuck. You know, whether that's some sort of ruse

so as to not be held accountable for these policies or whether it's the truth, I tend to believe it's little of both. I mean, the whole thing's preposterous. And, yeah, like, what exactly would America first, mean after, you know, and under globalism at scale. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like, I probably, like, Keith Pressing seems like a very good dude. Like, I don't know him personally, but I've followed him for years.

I don't know. But globalism at scale is what's going to make nullification, secession possible because of the free mobility of capital and other things. And that's great. You know, that's how we accomplish liberation. But, yeah, the idea that there's going to be some policy shift, or that the world is going to return to discrete spheres of influence, restricted by the limitations of technology and things that no longer exist.

Unless you were able to turn a clock back, which isn't possible, unless you're going to pull something like year zero, which I don't think it has a stomach for it's probably good. Yeah, it's a fantasy. It's people, it's intellectual masturbation writ large. And like all masturbation, that tends to cause blind spots. well when it comes to nullification everything i think keith would agree with you definitely yeah oh yeah yeah no i just i think uh i mean i'm i'm a higalian that's why like some of these

helots and and and and people who are mentally retarded like the claim that i'm like a mercist or something i mean i the cunning of reason is is uh you know the hand of god in history and it's um this the regime sewing the seeds of its own demise with its efforts at progress. I mean, that's always the case, you know, and you can't, you can't stop that process. And they're not, they don't, there's not even a backbench cadre of people who are like young or young ashen, Hungary and understand the 21st century. They're just, they're this parasite class.

You know, they're the Soviet nomenclature at 2.0. That's probably pretty ranty. I'll give it back to you guys. Jose, your thoughts? Yeah, I've always suspected that Israel was especially in Latin America now was getting back in as well to take part in illicit activities like drug trafficking and I think also as well a lot of strip mining and other type of resource extraction related activities because it's an open secret that is. real sources of funding are actually quite suspicious. This is a country that has massive tax of Asian as a social norm. So it's got to get its money somewhere. And obviously it bleeds the US and the West drive. But I've also read reports over the years, especially of like in

cartel violence like in Mexico, you'll find every now and then several Israeli nationals among like the dead. And I've, it's been my assignment. that they are pretty notable players in those markets. And I expect their activity to be more pronounced as Israel starts to become more focused in Latin America. I try to not just maintain like a foothold in the public affairs, but also in the shadows as well. Well, if I can jump in real quick, this strip mining thing you're talking about, this is what the guerrilla armies do. This is what this is how they get started. I mean, even Trend de Araago got started, not by strip mining, but shaking down government contract infrastructure projects.

But the ELN, the FARC, when they were going strong in Colombia, they were all, the ELN is supposedly still involved in strip mining. The cartels as well. They also get on the oil trade, which is nationalized in Mexico. And basically all these guerrilla armies, this is how they make their money. Well, also, Israel has a total, Israel doesn't have a normal, like an odd profile. Like, it's interesting, during the 90s, when MDMA or some variant of it, you know, it was huge when like ecstasy was everywhere, pretty much all the ecstasy was coming from Israel or the Netherlands. You know, they cornered the market on that in a major way. But other than weapons, I guess some high tech stuff, particularly hardware, like knock off computer chips and things.

Like, what the fuck does Israel produce? Doesn't produce anything. it's uh so it's not if it's not basically a massive uh money laundering operation slash tax shelter for you know people in the tribe like what the fuck is it you know it's a bunch of it's much a heavily armed uh hyperracialized people sitting on sand i mean like that's literally i mean it sounds like me funny but that that's actually what it is Jose so did I I know I got that broadly correct though that there was a 2009 CIA back coup in Honduras and this guy, I think he said his name was Hernandez, the one Trump lot out of prison, came to power soon after, and then they became the cocaine hub of Central America. Yeah, I think Hernandez himself, this was 2009, but he came into office like 2014, 2013, but that coup created the environment for his eventual assent.

and if I am not mistaken, the guy who was deposed, Manuel Celaya was replaced initially by Roberto Micheletti, and then, I forget who the other successor was, but it was another guy before Hernandez, but yeah, it was there really homeliority,

his period. But the whole point of that coup was to just create to create like institutional instability which is perfect for these type of cartels and like drug running outfits to set up shop. And then Hernandez

came into the picture in 2014. Okay. And so there's a I know you guys talked on Pete's show about the forest fires in Patagonia. And there's, I guess there's talk of, I've heard two different theories.

One is that it's like going to be a settlement. I think you guys talked about that. But then the other thing is for mining, for resource extraction, that there's a law, right? That if, you know, this place is subject to a forest fire, then companies can go in and speculate for mining. But as far as like a Jewish-Israeli diaspora in South America,

I mean, how prominent is that? I know there's one in Brazil. I mean, in Mexico. Oh yeah Mexico is very important That's a good point Argentina has a sizable one as well Because

Millet The way he got elected Was he effectively just went to the Jewish lobby Especially the Habad sect And other weird Ultra Orthodox Organizations there for support

Argentina is generally Like in the top 10 largest Jewish communities in the world and it's also in the western hemisphere. It's like the top three behind the U.S. And now it's become even more prominent. A lot of it initially, Theodore Herschel was flirting with the idea

of establishing a Jewish state. Never came to pass there because they obviously preferred Israel. But there were some other Jews, especially of Ashkenazi extraction, from like Russia and like a pale settlement that settled down and build their little own co-ops there. But those were- To just real quick, you know, Argentina is basically a European country. And for a long time, I mean, Jose can tell you about this.

For a long time, really until the 19, really until the Depression, people would talk about Argentina as if it's going to be the United States of South America. It's going to be this hugely powerful country. So there was all kinds of excitement and hype. And even people who were not looking for short-term profits, but in terms of long-term developmental capital investment, they thought Argentina was going to be huge. And it is an important country.

But yeah, go ahead. Thus, Herschel and the entire World Jewish Congress and whatever, yeah, the World Jewish Congress and stuff. That's why they were interested in it in part. But, yeah, I mean they interrupted. Well, yeah, that's a really good point that Thomas raised that. Argentina, well into the 90s, at least, was seen at like the United States as a very much like a pan-European state for the most part. And it has been able, it has been a magnet for migration like everywhere from Germany, Italy, France.

and even you can find significant Balkan, like Montenegrin, immigration, immigration from the Levant as well, like Lebanon, Syria, like the case I mentioned with Carlos Menom being of Syrian extraction, you can find like all sorts of groups. And Jews were also prominently there at some point. And they've become much more influential, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union. because I think the turning point, well, really after the end of the Falkland Wars is when you saw the Argentine system

just start to become much more pro-Judeo-American and open itself up to global finance. And that became a vector for greater Jewish influence in the country. Well, I mean, it's not a mistake that like when Malay got elected, the first thing he did was hop on a plane and go to Haban headquarters in frigging Brooklyn. I mean, he literally did that. People think it's like a meme.

But that was the first thing. Yeah, he went to Haban headquarters to go to Schneerson's grave. And it's like, yeah, and like all these libertarians were celebrating because an anarcho-capitalist got elected president. And they started calling Hans Herman Hoppa a lalbert because Hans is like, he's. a Zionist. He's not a libertarian. He's not an anarcho-capulist. He is a Zionist. What are you celebrating about? Well, that's why that's what Namblistan's were, North American man-boy libertarian association. No, libertarians are future long pig. Like, in, after NSEG, they're going to be butchered and cut into strips and some of their skin is going to be dried out as jerky. You'll be able to purchase it in gas stations. Um, their intestines will be used for sausage casing and the remainder will be sold to other tribes as long pig meat.

And, um, that will be the end of libertarians. They'll be turned into poop. But, um, forgive that little tangent. But no, the, interestingly, uh, if, uh, you'll permit the insinuation a little bit of trivia, Pavlovich settled in Argentina. I mean, not just because it was an access-friendly regime as Spain was, but there was a Croat expat expat community, particularly after Tito and the partisans were victorious. You know, it wasn't just Ustashah and Chetnakes that, you know, were on the aisle with the regime there. There was all kinds of people. And if you were a Serbo-Croatian speaker, it's not as if you had like an abundance of places where you could get by, just like as an emigree or a political refugee,

but you could in Argentina. And Pavlitz ended up working as a bricklayer for some like Croatian or Bosniak-owned firm. It's really interesting. If you guys are okay moving on, I was not intending to bring up Mexico, but Thomas mentioned them, and that's a really great point,

especially in light of the Epstein files just dropping. Very little do I see connections, especially in the media, with nexium. And it's really weird how the nexium cult went down right around the time of Epstein. I almost wonder if it was a distraction or a cover-up or something. I don't know why those things happened at the same time. But maybe the Justice Department was onto the whole network and they were going after them all. But people don't remember the nexium cult, whose leader, who was a goi, by the way, is in prison right now. They were all down in Mexico City. They had a whole

enclave down there. And I just remember thinking, what is this, Jewish, you know, Shabad, because that's what they were, the Bronfmans, they met in a Shabod, like synagogue, you know, learning class. What were they doing down there in Mexico? Why did they have an enclave in Mexico?

And who's their connection to Epstein? Go ahead. Well, the thing to understand about Mexico, it's a conspiratorial society. And traditionally, the Soviet embassy in Mexico City, that's where, you know, the film, The Falcon, the Snowman,

I mean, that's a real, story. Like Chris Boyce's buddy, Dalton Lee, Dalton Lee first made contact with the man who became their KGB handler by approaching the Soviet embassy in Mexico. Like that's where Lee, Harvey Oswald, first approached to discuss his defection. Anybody who was in the spy game during the height of the Cold War. Mexico City, a lot of things happened there. A lot of people got murdered there in the espionage game.

and if you wanted to make contact, particularly as a defector, that was where you did it. You know, so there's that. And the Mormons, and of course, too, if you've got beyond those sorts of political intrigues and intelligence-related activities, if you've got money to spend and you don't want people asking questions, you can set up shop in Mexico and if you grease the right palms, you'll pretty much be left alone. That's why there's this longstanding Mormon enclave there. I'm not saying Mormons are up to bad things or something. What I'm saying is that traditionally Mormons weren't particularly light by the federal

government. People forget that they initially seceded. And then when they realized Lincoln was in it to win it, they stepped back from that proposition because they weren't ready to go against the guns. but they did not have an amiable relationship of the authorities, but they had a lot of money, and they had a lot of people with a lot of skills, particularly in agriculture, at scale and things.

So you go to Mexico with that to offer the local authorities, you'll basically be left alone. That's a lot to do with it. So if you want to set up some kind of cult, or some kind of money laundering operation or some kind of perverted sex thing or all of the above, you know, you got to be doing that over the border. Eventually, if you try doing that here, you're going to end up like that, that Warren Jeffries guy. He was the guy with the whole church of the original Latter-day Saints compound, right, where he had like a bunch of underage girls that he was carrying on with. he got rated and obviously now he's been buried by football numbers.

You know, so it's important, I mean, don't get me wrong. I think with the nexium cult, there probably is something there. But just because people are doing crazy, shady things in Mexico, it doesn't mean that they have some sort of sympathetic cadre in government. It just means that they got the money to keep people off their back. Well, and also Trotsky went there, and that's where he was murdered. Yeah, exactly. Jose or Pete?

I think really on my end, I'm not, Mexico is not as much of a strong suit for me, but it will be an interesting spot to seem for these type of Isaac Accords operations unfolding in the next few years, because I have been noticing too, and this is based off my previous experience, working in the DC think tank space with a lot of Latin American people that these networks, a lot of these people are part of very similar networks, like the Atlas network, that promote people like Millay and other pro-Zionist figures. And I'm going to be interested to see how those types of. of interest groups intersect and type of alliances they make and the moves they make and the shadows in the next few years because i do remember milay from a while back this was like from circa 2017 and 2019 when he was just like a fringe figure that people would post on the internet some of like my mutuals like on facebook and this is one he was just like an eccentric media personality who would occasionally run for office and only get like 2% of the vote but it's very clear that once he's He went to the local Hubbard network that his profile just skyrocketed. And I believe that that model may be replicated by a good deal of future political aspirants in Latin America and other countries in the region. Yeah, I mean, nexium, I won't belabor that.

I pointed it out mainly because of the Epstein file dump just now. No, it's incredibly weird. I mean, it's, it's, yeah. I mean, it's weird terms, but yeah, it's a weird coincidence. The thing we're. Fieris Modad, you know, maybe talk a little bit about this Epstein thing. Fieris Modad over in England, he just went to work looking at, like, the geopolitics of what was released. It's literally insane how insinuated this guy was into different.

I mean, he was, the Saudis contacted him to negotiate between them and Yemeni tribes. Well, he was, I mean, that's the whole point I've been making about Epstein from day one. And the reason why I posted, uh, bars, Donald Barr's bizarre, like, pedophilic science fiction, you got to understand what Epstein was. He was a guy. And despite the fact that, see, Epstein's whole family backgrounds were he murky. and deliberately obscured. They claim that his father was this guy

named Seymour Epstein, who was the son of Russian Jewish immigrants who worked as a gardener and was poor. But the neighborhood Epstein grew up in was a super zip. Okay. And there was another Seymour Epstein approximately the same age as this guy

who supposedly his father who worked on the Manhattan Project and was very, very close to William Donovan, you know wild bill donovan so epstein goes this somehow too you're supposed to believe that like he came in this like working poor family but he goes to this elite boarding school and then bar essentially takes him on as like his surrogate son you know and bar is this guy who bar could move in odd places because obviously bar was was a very powerful jew but he also was in with

these os s guys and despite what they they portray and movies like the good shepherd The OSS was a bunch of Catholic ethnic. It wasn't, we can't have Negroes or Catholics among us. No, no, no, no, no. Wild Bill Donovan was as Irish as they come. James E. Angleton was a Catholic. Born in Mexico, I might add. So Barr, he could get along, and he could get along with the WASP State Department types too.

You can move in three different worlds, okay? And despite what people, you know, and Epstein basically, you know, Gislay and Maxwell, Well, her father was one of the most powerful non-royals in the United Kingdom. And he basically gave his daughter to Epstein. You know, but why? He was an effignton. He was like, oh, what a munch. I mean, come on.

It's obvious this dude was a huge intelligence asset who was basically minister without portfolio and successive administrations. who was on top of that, I mean, he was like a bag man from Assad and U.S. intelligence. I mean, he was all these things. But he was, you know, and he wasn't either, I know one of the things people say, and interestingly, the economist raised this, the economy is a shit rag,

but they, people will claim even in legacy media, I mean, now that legacy media is credible, but they'll claim, Epstein made his money on Wall Street. No, he didn't. Epstein didn't know anything about finance. He never worked on Wall Street. He was this guy who had money that nobody could actually trace,

some of which came from Gislane because her, he got this huge, he was a billionaire by marrying Gislane. Okay, let me put it that way. But that didn't account for all of his assets. I think part of what he was doing, I mean, Epstein was absolutely a pederast and a rapist and a sexual deviant, But he was a pimp.

He was a straight-up. Yeah, he was a pimp. And part of the pimp game is always a honeypot slash extortion racket. You know, he'd have these famous guys and these money people and these pals, especially guys who couldn't leave, you know, pussy alone. He'd get him in these compromising positions, and then he owned him. And he didn't just own him, but Mossad owned him. And maybe his buddies that defense intelligence owned him. them too. You know, and I mean, if you, and aside from that, you know, like I said, this dude

moved in a bunch of different worlds, you know, despite the fact that everybody acts like, oh, Epstein, what a sleaze, we hate him. If he was a dude, people liked. Like, that's why it was bullshit. Like, Ann Coulter gets on, she's like, oh, he offered me a ride one time, and I knew something was wrong. It's like, no, no, you didn't. You were this guy's buddy. You can't fuck out of here. And you're like, oh, he's a rich guy wants to, who, you know, how she was probably like giggling like a schoolgirl you know um so i mean this idea that he was just like hated man like get the fuck out of here you know no he wasn't yeah and in terms of the money go ahead go ahead the whole thing about you know him being a degenerate and a and a peterast

and everything that's a prerequisite for this i mean oh yeah goes up saying because you can say that at a much smaller scale hunter biden is exactly what did exactly for the the Biden family and that crew, what Epstein did. And he's a total scumbag too. You can't do this without being... Yeah, Biden's Bush League. He's like his Bush League white trash Epstein.

Yeah, so I've been making the point that John Luke Brunel, who's a modeling agent who was on record known to funnel like a thousand girls to Epstein at some point or over the course of his career. He had a modeling agency. He had a

modeling agency set up in Ukraine in Kiev that Igor Kolomoisky who was fucking Zelensky's boss at the time was part owner of and there's it's a huge slave plantation yeah and Thomas made this point before and I looked it up by the way

he said that in those remember you said in those paintings of like Turkish slave girls those were all Ukrainians well I went I went and investigated this I'm telling the listener now and I never knew this the biggest fucking port to export slaves to the Turkish slave market was in Crimea on the Black Sea, which is right where

the pale of Solomon ended up and where Galicia was. So, yeah, there's, there's emails in the Epstein files from a Ukrainian madam between her and Jean-Luc Brunel about fucking funneling girls to Epstein. So, of course, Hunter Biden was getting girls from his network. And then in terms of, in terms, just real quick, in terms, just to tie this. other thing off with a bow here. In terms of Epstein's money, right?

So Maxwell wasn't just a money bag. She was also his connection to Mossad, I believe. Well, it all started kind of at the same time because of Iran contra and this other weapon sale in England. But Les Wexner was also his money bag. And Les Wexner had owned, and Igor Kolomoisky owned the same thing in Ukraine. They both owned tax-exempt Shabad study like synagogues where all these people would meet up to do crime together. I have a whole episode about it in Ukraine.

So the Chabad network is in fact a criminal organization. And this is where the Bronfman sisters met another guy who was Jewish who ran the nexium cult. And Les Wexner and the Bronfman's father, whose first name I forget now, were part of the mega group who they were like putting money. they were investors and they were putting money behind political candidates and stuff. I just don't know what Nexium was doing down in Mexico. Nothing ever came out about laundering money or human trafficking or cartel. I mean, it's all this stuff. It's like the founders cult.

Like I'm not saying them in the Nexium called it common objectives in discrete capacities. But I mean, you're not going to, the reason why I'm going to be cult of them serious of burden is because, you know, in part, I mean, I think the Nexium cult was a number of things. But, you know, people have cultic ideas. People believe in bizarre things. There are genuine pagans who do horrible stuff. You know, there's bizarre cults of perverts who have this idea that they can divinate, you know, they can divinate psychic and spiritual power by transgressive acts and things or by desensitizing themselves as stuff. or some of these people are just perverts who like to put some sort of

quasi-religious gloss on their deviancy. But yeah, I, you know, I mean, I, there shouldn't I mean, don't get me wrong, like Epstein is an incredible, he was an incredibly weird person, I mean, at top of being obviously like a very evil man, and his biography is bizarre, but it's not somehow unbelievable. I mean, I, and that's really the legacy of Epstein. It shows you how stupid the body politic is. They think there's like this macuffin Epstein list like in some cheap movie or something. And the whole point, like, what's news worried about Epstein is that, you know, Donald Trump is a pedophile or that some

or that some like loser-goers Paul they don't like is going to be exposed for doing bad sexual things. They have no one. It's like you can put it literally right in front of their face, what the issue is and they still don't get it. And it's literally everybody. I mean, everybody was involved with this guy. And, you know, something that, you know, something that I think a lot of people on our, on our side who are like, you know, they've had this idea that you can get elected into, into and start like subverting the government, you know, I'm talking about like national government. and changing and possibly taking over. It's like it is riddled with peddras, homosexuals, the most deviant people on the planet.

If you're a Christian, why do you want anything to do with that? I mean, there's a reason that people go there with, like, good people go there. Like, people go there with, like, real good intentions. And then come out, turn out to get fucked up and just, I mean, I mean, I mean, their soul is destroyed. Why the fuck would you want anything to do with these people? I don't understand either what they think. One of the reasons I emphasize this point,

it's not just because it's important for understanding the historical process and the current situation. I don't understand what people think that the government is structured as doing for them. Everything else aside is totally obsolescent. It's not structured to do anything that it's raised on debt for a cease to exist in 1991.

You know, why obviously, it's a way for corrupt and narcissistic people to get famous and get rich by insider trading and stuff. It's a way to capture clout. It's this totally parasitic apparatus. You know, like it's not actually,

you know, like, so what, what, what, what, what, what, how could ethical people, everything else aside, be attracted to it? You know, this idea that this, uh, 20th century style regime just must exist in perpetuity.

because otherwise we'll descend into anarchy or something. Like, it's preposterous. It's slave think writ large. You know, like what? You know, it's like racketeers and gangsters are attracted to racketeering operations. You know, it's not good people or people who are entrepreneurial in their own right and want to build actual capital, you know, for the common wealth, literally. You know, it's parasite pieces of shit.

Or it's nobody's who, you know, owing to connections or owing to, you know, the sort of odd trajectory of people's lives, you know, that's sort of like they're in for, you know, how to capture cloud and whatever. But, yeah, I, the whole, the whole apparatus needs to die. And thankfully, it is dying. And I'm, you know, I hope I have an opportunity to bear witness to some of these people get their come up. And it's just because it's fun to watch evil people, you know, have like suffer the torches of the damned.

But, you know, I've got no, I'll long be dust before, you know, the lot of these people are, are annihilated. But, you know, I can go to the grave, like, happy that they're going to be annihilated and that they're all going to end up in hell. Hey, so the weapons contract deal that I blanked on. It was called the Al-Iamah deal. People should look that up if they're interested in where Epstein got to start. I brought it up earlier, though, because after that deal, which was simultaneously

happening during Iran-Contra. Right after that, and Epstein was involved in both through this guy, Doug Lees, who was British. Right after that is when he met Robert Maxwell and got hooked up with Galane. But Jose, I wanted to ask you going into this today, which is off the original topic, but the Epstein files dropped in between inviting you on and us recording. So I wanted to know if you had any thoughts, if you've been looking at that. And if you kind of had any new revelations or if it put any pieces together or if it's in any way involved in your work you've been doing?

Well, it has confirmed numerous suspicions. I've had about Epstein just being an agent for global jury. And funny enough, it has rekindled my interest in one side topic, if you will, like a side quest of looking into Israeli operations in the global south. because one thing that I noticed in some of these leaks with Epstein and Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister, they did a lot of shuttle diplomacy in Africa, especially like Sierra Leone. And I want to do some more research on that because Israel's footprint has also increased a lot

in that region for very similar reasons to Latin America, and that these are both corrupt, resource-rich regions that have very, transactional politicians that can be bribed or even just flat out blackmailed by Besot and similar actors and that's one thing that I took a lot of interest in and I haven't delved deep into the files like some people but I do think it's really good to have them as a reference point because it just shows how the Israeli project is not like a normal nationalistic project It's very much a transnational endeavor that is, for all intensive purposes, also a criminal, global criminal enterprise.

And I think that's why it's important to kind of keep that in mind and not get lost in the more, like, clickbaity aspects of this, which there are plenty of that actually have validity. But that's one thing that's interested to be more is about these networks. And interestingly, you mentioned Megagroup. I did write an article about the mega group recently at the Occidental Observer, and then a follow-up about Jessica Tisch, the NYPD commissioner that's of the Tish fortune that's currently working under Zora and Mom Donnie. and her father and grandfather were actually quite close to Jeffrey Epstein. I think Lawrence Tisch, yeah, was part of the mega group. And it's interesting how all this stuff is very much interconnected,

even in what seems like everyday positions of governance. These people have, like, agents or at least like their progeny embedded in these institutions, regardless of who's in power. the mom dani thing was interesting pete were you going to say something about that well i mean i'm not taking any of that at face value that's that to me just seems like the slot part of it um the things that are interesting that have been most interesting at this point is just you know the fact that any questions about whether he was connected to israel and now they're trying to say that like they're i think there's a new york times article that put that putin ran um epstein

which is hilarious to me. Yeah. But the two things that stand out to me is just how global this, how global he was and how much reach he had everywhere. And just the Jewish supremacy bigotry that comes out of it. I mean, it's, that can't be anyone who reads these emails and it's just like, oh, these people are joking when they're talking about the goyam and talking about how. financialization is for us and, you know, it's an inside thing and, you know, everyone else is on the outside of this. People who can't see through that now. And there are people like formerly, I would say formerly in our sphere who are doubling down now and they're like totally like this

Epstein thing is a nothing burger. It doesn't mean anything. We got to keep trusting Trump and we got to put all our faith in the White House. Motherfuckers, you're going to be, you're $5,000 a month you're getting from Twitter is going to be gone after the midterms. Because after the midterms, Trump is in, he's going to be in freaking impeachment land. He's going to be in, you know, because you're just, it's, even if it isn't like a reaction against him, it's just how the cycles work. Midterms, you lose. Yeah, Meg is a fucking joke.

And, but I mean, that's why, you know, I mean, like, that's, that's why I gatekeep so hard, you know, because most of these guys, they're running some kind of graft or they're just fucking idiots and like they their whole thing they like they don't actually leave their house they like live on the internet

they shill for bullshit and the only reason they'll approach me or our friends is because they're trying to they're trying to mind credibility out of brands that are more intellectually rigorous

than their own and try and hitch their wagon for limited purposes you know, and I'm very wise of that. You know, people seem to think that I don't know shit or something. But generally I'm ahead of the mega contingent. Then I'm not, it's not some kind of flex, man.

That's like being smarter than the kids in special ed. But it, yeah, these people aren't in the game. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. You know, but that's why that's why I don't associate with conservatives. You know, they're losers. They're idiots. And a lot of them are just perfids, man.

Like they, you know, they're your enemies. They're not just, if they're stupid people, that'd be one thing. But they're, they're bad people. They're stupid and they're ethically compromised. And some of them are, some of them are evil, albeit in a very banal capacity. But I got to run, fellas. I got to, I got to get on with my day. and I got a recording burden in a few minutes here too.

Forgive me for being abrupt. I think both both Thomas and Jose need to check out. So maybe Astral and I'll go a little bit longer. Okay. Yeah, we'll connect up tomorrow, Pete. Yep. Talk to you tomorrow. Jose, you need to get out of here?

I can sit here for like five more minutes or so. Okay. All right. Thomas, take care of yourself. I'll talk to you tomorrow. Yeah. Be well, fellas. Good talking to you, Jose. Yeah, likewise, Thomas, nice seeing you again, man.

So, Jose, let's get a little more, in the remaining five minutes that you have and everything, talk a little bit more about what you've seen in the Epstein drops. Obviously, the slop of, you know, it's not slop. I mean, pedophiles need to be millstoneed. But really, the, the. power behind all of this and just exactly how, I mean, we're fucked. I mean, it's, I mean, it's coming to an end, but, you know, you have to realize that if your idea is that, oh, there's a political solution to this that's other than like, um, statewide or local,

if you think there's a national solution to this and even statewide and local in many cases, is completely fucked. I mean, you're, you know, you're from, You know Texas politics is fucked. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, how, you know, what do you see out of it that, you know, what's the hope? What's the white pill? Yes, I do think there is hope because it is destroying this schoolhouse rock illusion that people have been placed under with regards to how they view America.

government. They view it in a very benign and well-intentioned manner when in reality it's anything but that it's not democratic. It's very opaque. And it's it's hostile. It's openly hostile. Yep. Ruling class driven hostile goes very much against the interest of the American people. And I think this is a really good moment for educational moment for people to realize that It's these transnational criminal networks that actually run things, not your Mr. Smith going to Washington. Many people have been served up that illusion and have been entranced by this for decades. But it's good that people are being disabused of that because the first step in actually bringing about any type of reform is actually identifying the problem and the rot that's in the system. And the Epstein files absolutely deliver on that front when it comes to just exposing the underworld and just the absolute rotten state of American politics.

You know, when you're talking about like billions of dollars, in some cases trillions of dollars and you're talking about power and you're talking about people who will not only have sex with kids but will kill them. I mean, they don't care. They'll kill anyone. Wanting to make peace with that, you're the enemy if you want to make peace with it. But also thinking that there's somehow, some way you're going to go and subvert that and it's not going to touch you. It's not going to taint you. It's not going to maybe even turn you.

you're you're fucking you're out of your mind you're out of your fucking mind well something i like repeating is that the reason why there are mostly democrats and liberals in the epstein files is because they like girls and republicans like boys so going back to the point you guys were making the gop the gop is the gay old party it is people want to say that like the The Democrats are gay. No, the Republican Party has way more homosexuals in it than the Democrat party. I'm not saying the Democrat Party is good, okay?

It is the gay old party. And to Pete's point and to Jose's point about, you know, Jose goes to Washington or whatever the anecdote is, you're not going to get in if you're not gay. That's it. You're not going to make it anywhere. Yeah.

It's closed off to you. Yep. And look at somebody like Thomas Massey. Look what they did to him. I mean, even Marjorie Taylor Green. There's a lot of things to not like about Thomas Massey, economic policy. And I agree with that. Border policy.

But when it comes down to it, and he may have, he may take money from, you know, I've heard, oh, well, you know, someone, there's a Jew who donates a lot of money to him. Yeah. And someone named him once. Tell me, is that person in the Epstein files? is Thomas Massey in the Epstein files? Is Tucker Carlson in the Epstein files? Take a look at who's not in the Epstein files

and realize you may disagree with them on a lot, but that person doesn't fucking hate you and probably once you're dead. Oh yeah, you guys probably saw this. There's a transcript somewhere. I don't know if it was court testimony or just an interview. From years ago, a girl that was trafficked by Epstein who got out, who turned on him, said all this stuff about the Jewish supremacy stuff.

She said all of it. She said Galane was even worse than Jeffrey on it. I mean, Jeffrey was like kind of their surrogate dad. He was their pimp. So he treated them kind of good, actually. A lot of the girls defended him and refused to turn on him. But she said that all this stuff you're seeing in the files, the way he's talking in private.

She said that's how Galane would talk to the girls. You know, you're just a goy, all this stuff. So that was already out there. But it's good now. for people to see that, regular people. It's good that the way they talk is out there for the public to see. And, you know, in the wake of October 7th, that isn't lost on people. The whole, go ahead, Pete.

I won't, I'm going to do a spur. I'll save it. No, I want people to understand. I'll be short. I want people to understand, you know, it's like I still don't believe, you know, radicalizing the normies is a good thing. I mean, because normies can't be radicalized. I mean, they're just, but the thing, the more education they have about who rules over them,

they can make better decisions with their lives. They can be more successful. They can choose not to do business with a certain, you know, with a certain business because it could be, you know, they see that it's connected to something. They can make decisions. They can make decisions to just not deal with, not take out fucking 30-year mortgages or things. I mean, to just try to do everything to disconnect yourself from, you know, this, the Jewish overlords. And if people can see that, they don't need to become fucking, you know, French revolutionaries, you know, in 1789 or 1793.

But they can just be like, oh, okay, so we're basically under occupation and I'm going to live my life to mitigate that, mitigate the damage of that as much as I can. can. It's just really helping people to know how to live their lives. Now, they want to become, you know, like us, who talks about it openly and, you know, maybe even starts an organization to, you know, educate people about it or starts an organization to help people in their local area or anything, any kind of organizing. That's perfect, you know, we need that. But, you know, just that the average person can realize, you know, one thing, it's like I said this about history. If you look at the last 2,000 years of history and you don't see Jews, you don't understand the last 2,000 years of history, especially European history. If you don't see the Jewish question in all of it,

it opens your eyes to understand and now you can understand history. And it's the same thing now. There are people running around. around going, how come, you know, we have the Constitution. How come the Constitution doesn't work? How come this doesn't seem like the country I had 80, the country 80 years ago? Why doesn't it seem like the founding of the country? Well, now you can, those, those questions can be answered, whether they do nothing about it, whether they, you know, don't become activists or start an organization and start organizing and doing something, at least they can see it. And at least they, you know, it's, people aren't in this. The problem is, is when you control the textbooks and when you control the news and when you

control everything, you control people's minds and they stop living historically and they stop caring about anything except what's right in front of them. And I think this just helps people to break out of that whole mindset that has been just drilled into Americans for the last 80 to 100 years. And I think when that happens, you know, something metaphysical can happen to where it's like the spirit of the age changes and we go in another direction. So, I mean, I mean, I know that sounds woo-woo to a lot of people, but I mean, that is, if you look through history, you see that in working throughout everywhere. Yeah, I like that a lot and it speaks to what I was going to say, which is that the left right divide is gone now. And anyone pushing from the right, the right this and the left

sucks and the left this and the right sucks is they're just falling for it. They're just dupes now. I mean, Jose, do you agree? I feel like it's been going away for a while since October 7th. But for me, this just totally smashes the false dichotomy like forever. Yeah, I think the left first right divide may have had value. four, but we're entering a new epoch where different battle lines are being drawn. And there are also like new friend enemy distinctions. And sometimes even old ones that I've just manifested themselves in different ways. And it does require new thinking and ability to adapt for the times.

Like history is always good to learn so that you don't make very predictable mistakes. But it's also what part of the historical process is also, confronting novel changes, technology, social trends and all of that and adapting to that because it's ultimately those who are able to synthesize the knowledge of the past, then interact with the present in a very effective manner that will write the history books further down the line.

Well said. I totally agree. The reason I'm saying what I'm saying is because we saw that Epstein, I'm hoping maybe next episode we can dedicate to the files, because there's a lot we're not even going to get to. But we saw that Epstein was in touch with the founder and the director, whatever, of 4chan and the poll

within a few days of him contacting this guy, the subform poll arrived. And the left is taking that to say, oh, look at this. The right wing politics is totally controlled by Zionists. And then right

wing people are getting all up in arms about it and offended by it. But I'm just sitting here like, huh, look at that. Totally organically, the left is blaming their political opponents on Jews. They're blaming their political opponents as being controlled by Zionists.

I'm like, this, how is this not a good thing? How do you not see that this is a good thing? And it's the same thing about Memdani. I mean, it was really interesting that this came out. And I decided,

when I saw him go to the White House and I was immediately like, this is a whole fucking op. And everybody on either side is falling for it. But the takeaway from that is the dude campaign, and one on anti-Zionist rhetoric. I'm not saying I want, you know, I don't think he's going to be a good mayor at all. I don't want him as the mayor,

but that is the takeaway, that these divides that we're seeing are being blurred now. Yes, indeed. We are entering some interesting times now, and there are like new coalitions being formed and also new opportunities

to shape things up. I like it because I personally felt that the consensus of yesterday year was very ossified and sclerotic and corrupt and just downright hostile towards our interests. So anything to shake that up is a welcome development.

So, all right, so maybe to take us out here, I don't know how we're doing on time, but any comments you guys want to make on Putin or Russia or the war in Ukraine would be welcome. And I bring it up because Putin's kind of snatching on this.

He's kind of, he's capitalizing. on this and he's saying like he said something to the effect that like we were going to join western civilization at the end of at the fall of the USSR but now western civilization has been revealed to not be a civilization at all it's just a nest of degeneracy i thought it looked like pete was going to say something good it's it's it's kind of hard not to argue that you know and when you when i say that when i agree with putin i'm not saying that Russia is an nest of degeneracy, that there's not degeneracy there, that there isn't Habad presence in Russia.

There is, there are, there are still our Jewish oligarchs there. I think people will say that that's just total proof that Putin is completely owned by them. And, I mean, I don't care, whatever. The fact is, is that the man spoke truth. We are completely corrupt. Look at, I mean, and we're just talking about the United States. Look at Europe.

I mean, Europe has it worse than us. And I feel, yeah, I feel bad for them, but, you know, they are, they're dangerous to us. Because they're trying to drag us into like a war with Russia. They want, and they want war with Russia. They, they, yeah, I mean, I hate to say it, but really, you know, because it, it, it's, pisses so many people off in Europe, but I think if people really understood the situation that they're in and how fucked up it is, Russia marching to the Atlantic and taking over everything would improve their lives 100%. That's exactly what I had in my mind when I brought

that up, Pete. Yeah. I mean, look, it's not going to be this gigantic Jewish plantation anymore. the Zio Jewish plantation anymore if Russia did that. It's there is, there's, it's going to be hard to get rid of all of the Jewish influence, but it's obvious that whatever Jewish influence there is in Russia is against the Jewish influence in Europe. And, but the European influence is so much more damaging. so much more dangerous. I mean, it's, it basically makes you hate yourself. It imports, you know, savages into your countries to rape your women. And then if you mention that your woman has been raped, you know, you go to jail. You know, if it's, you're never going to have

the perfect. It's all about tradeoffs. If I was, if I lived in Germany right now, I would much rather Putin be, you know, Putin's influence be in charge. You know, Putin's influence be in charge and Russia's influence be in charge. I would much rather have an ethnic Germany. I would much rather have France be for the French. Germany be for the Germans. Sweden be for the Swedish. England be for the English. But that's not where we're at right now. And really, the only one who I think could clean up what is absent of a revolution in Europe where a kind of ethnic revolution in every country, someone's going to have to come in from the outside and clean it up. And that's obviously it's going, I mean, we're the, we can't do it because

we're controlled by the same people. It looks different in our country just because of, because our country and our culture is different. But it's the same thing. The only thing that seems to be different is Russia. And I know there's people, the Jewsburgs who can't, who think that like every, all Jewish power is the exact same thing. I mean, I can't help those people. I really can't. Nothing you say to them because they're so, they're so low IQ.

They really shouldn't be following politics. Sports would be better. Music, you know, go, you know, just go delve into the goyslop. it'll it'll be it'll be better for you i mean stop talking you know stop talking take that information and use it to get your life straight whatever but i mean right now russia would be a much russia putin would be a much better influence over europe than what they have now which is you know just basically um a global zionism hose a jose jose do you disagree with me man. No, I, no, I fully agree. I think it's wise for people to just not get too caught up in the emotions of, like, political stuff and just view things soberly. And just remember, you can only have so much impact. So as long as everybody just becomes like a better unit and does their part, things will be fine.

well i think uh i've been saying zelinski's days are numbered i think the wars i think we're watching the war wind down uh the caveat that if america suddenly infuses a massive military aid package to ukraine to keep the war going i don't think they're going to be able to to keep it going uh the infrastructure the scandal in ukraine was over the was over uh fortifying the energy infrastructure against Russian attacks. Those, all right, I think we're getting, Jose, do you have to get going, buddy? Yeah, I have to bounce.

All right. Do you have time for? I'll stick around from a little bit to close it out. Yeah. All right. Let Jose get the last word. If you have a second for the last word, man. Sure.

You know, I'd like to thank you guys again for having this discussion. It's very necessary. And I think it's illuminating in light of the recent Epstein file releases about learning about who actually governs us and what the real powder center is in the West. And I think it's very important that these discussions are had and that they be repeated because repetition is the key to learning some of this stuff. Because for many people, it could be a shock and it makes them take leave their senses at first. But then you have to kind of explain it and break it down a few times. But that's how the game goes.

So I think it's, I'm absolutely grateful to be discussing with other like-minded people on these issues. Yeah, man, it was great to have you. I think you were a great guest for the Inquisition. And Pete, I do have a couple minutes to finish up. Sure. Thank you, Jose. All right. Thank you, Jose. All right.

See you guys. Thank you. All right. Actually, Pete, I want to get your opinion on this. So what I was saying is that the energy infrastructure, the scandal in Ukraine, was they were skimming off the top of energy infrastructure fortifications, and we even saw them purposely buying cheaper, shitty stuff that didn't really protect it. And they were also taking a really, really long time to rebuild fortifications that Russia knocked out.

And the reason they were taking a really long time is because they were trying to find the cheapest contractor or bidder that they could. And if they couldn't find one that was cheap enough, and when I say cheap enough, I mean the one where they could skim the most money off the top. of they would wait and they would hold out they held out for two months on one contract to see if they would bring the price down and in that time russia hit the infrastructure yet again hit the power grid yet again so right now there's lots of places in ukraine without power and just yesterday which would be february second uh russia committed another attack on the power grid and uh so things things are not looking good and i wonder what you think i thought it would be over by the end of 2020

Once the scandal broke, though, I said, without an infusion of military aid, which I don't think is coming. I really don't think Trump and Vance's meeting with Zelensky was KFab. I think they were cutting them off. And it looks like they did cut them off. I don't see how it's going to. I just don't think it's possible. I don't think it's possible for it to last to the end of 2026. I think it'll probably wind down in the summer.

And last thing I want to say is that the people who got fired, over the scandal of whom there were a bunch, although, of course, two of them fled to Israel. Their seats were sitting vacant for months. Zelensky wasn't able to fill them. So, like, they haven't recovered from the scandal. So, I mean, I could say more about why is Zelensky holding out. I think he's holding out, as we saw on the Epstein files,

he's controlled by Israel. I think, and this is one of the things I mainly want your opinion on, Pete, I think he's being told to keep Russia engaged while they're trying to work out Iran. And they want to they want to strike Iran. They want to convince Trump to strike Iran. I don't know what they want to do. They want to do another fucking gay op, two of which, one in the summer and one in this recent color revolution, neither of which has worked. It's the only sense I could make for why Zelensky is holding out.

I don't think they need to keep this going on to do the Iran thing. If Russia is going to get involved, they can get involved. It's not like they're going to be fighting a two-front war. They're just going to be, it will just be support of information and weapons platforms. So I don't really know that Russia needs to be distracted by keeping this going. I think the one thing it does show is that when they realized that they weren't going to, be able to destroy Russia. I mean, they honestly believed that Ukraine was going to, you know, was going to be able to hurt Russia. And I mean, to a certain extent, I mean, a lot of people

dead, a lot of people wounded. But really, what it comes down to is they decided afterwards that just Ukraine needed to be destroyed as much as possible. And I think that's what's happening right now. And I don't think that Putin can back down. people can be like, well, Putin's doing this on purpose because there's Jews on one side and there's Jews on his side and everything like that. It's like, I mean, sure, you can be that simplistic about it or you can really think about what's going on there. And to make it as simple as possible, you could say, well, he's just looking to save face. But when Putin starts off an interview by going through the history of Russia, I don't think that's KFAA.

I think that is him going, look, we're the Russians. Everybody's tried to kill us. And, you know, the Jews almost did. But we're back. And we have to play this game because it's a global game and there are global players. But we're not, you can't just tell us that this land is not ours. because it is. And I think at this point,

Putin is just, he's keeping it going because if he knows, he knows that if it stops, if he stops, he's going to be seen as weak. He needs the other side to back down. That's it.

I also think that there are hardliners in his government. He is not the most radical person in his government. I mean, it's hilarious that people think that he's like some kind of, you know, dictator. I mean, he's a strong man because he has to be because the culture demands a strong man. That area of the world demands a strong man. I mean, when you're in eight time zones and you command that, you have to be a strong man. But he is basically saying, look, this is ours. I'm not going to give up on it. And if I give up on it, I'm just going to appear weak and they're

going to keep coming after us and they're going to keep coming after us. And they will keep coming after him. But at least he'll be he'll be able to stand up and go, we want this. This is ours. We're going to keep it. It's not going anywhere. He needs to secure the Donbass and Crimea and he needs to keep NATO missiles out of Ukraine. But yeah, I mean, there's no reason for him to back down. All right, man.

Any last thoughts? I think this was a fantastic episode. I can't wait for the listeners to take this in. Yeah, no, I'm going to eat some lunch. all right we will uh work on the next one behind the scenes until then thanks for listening to the inquisition pete thanks for your time and your insights as always of course thanks ma'am all right man