The Pete Quiñones Show - Inquisition Ep. 7: Gaza/Ukraine Deals, The Anti-Trump "Right," Israeli Puppetry

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:46 is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Welcome back to the Inquisition, everybody. Today we have Stormy and Pete on deck. Pete will be here any minute. But me and Stormy wanted to get started, Thomas had to set this one out. So it's been two weeks since the last. last time we recorded, and I've been kind of holding back.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I've been wanting to wait and see how the situation in Israel and Gaza developed before we got on the mic again. And I'm still waiting and seeing, but things are going according to plan, so to speak, because they had a prisoner swap agreement, and it was supposed to be staggered over several months. And then in the beginning or the end of March, sometime in March, they're going to renegotiate and they're going to extend the deal. They're going to extend the ceasefire, and supposedly they're going to negotiate some more prisoner releases. But despite noise being made by both sides, the prisoner releases have all gone as plans thus far. And the prisoners are in good enough health, let's put it that way.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Some of them are looking pretty emaciated and pretty bad. Others look fine. So it looks like not all prisoners are being treated equally, but an interesting thing that I noted was that Gaza gives back, I think it was three or maybe six prisoners this time. Israel gave back like 300 or more. Some of them who were taken prisoner during this offensive, but some of them who had been in prison in Israel for 20 years. There were people directly or tangentially involved in the murder or the assassination of Israelis and IDF members back. in the early 2000s, 2002, 2003, that they let out of prison. So what we're seeing is a continuation of the discrepancy in lives lost and the value
Starting point is 00:04:53 placed on the prisoners' lives and the values placed on the lives of the Palestinians and the Israelis. Because, you know, Israel kills how many thousands of people a day and they take one or two casualties a day, if that. they get back six prisoners and they they in exchange for hundreds. So it's kind of lopsided. The thing we want to wait and see, though, I was never really concerned about the terms of the ceasefire, though. I always figured they were going to follow that. What we're waiting to see is this thing that Trump's talking about the, the, I don't even know what to call it.
Starting point is 00:05:37 the displacement. I mean, I want to call it the displacement of the people of Gaza, removing them from Gaza permanently and finding a place for them to go and rebuilding Gaza and settling it and turning it into beachfront property. Now, the thing is, Stormy, I think we agree on this. Like, you have to be a fucking idiot if you think. I mean, I'm ready. Things have gone our way. way in the way we've predicted and the way Stormy's predicted enough that I'm ready to like
Starting point is 00:06:11 take the guardrails off because I was I personally was holding back and saying like well I want to see how things play out before he's a reluctant plan truster I'm a reluctant plan truster that's well been heard too many times but exactly but that's that's over now I think it's clear what's going on and Stormy the Pam Bondi is is indicting DNC members numbers right now. Well, we have a lot to talk about because we're recording... We're recording Monday night the 17th of February. There's a couple things that broke out that I want to talk about that are in their early stages
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Starting point is 00:07:59 Trading as Cooper Financial Services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. But before we get to anything else, I definitely want to start with Gaza and Israel. and I'm ready to say that anybody who takes Trump at his word at face value, either for or against with his resettlement of the population of Gaza, is a fucking idiot. And don't take them seriously anymore. Don't take them seriously anymore. If his Zionist supporters are saying, yeah, get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:08:32 This is a great plan. We're going to get Gaza. And if his detractors on the far right, I put that in scare quotes, are saying, see, see, we told you he's a Zionist. Like, just throw away their opinion. Don't listen to them for true analysis of the politics of the Trump administration. Because this is a bargaining chip. It's obvious now.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And I'm not afraid to say it anymore. Like, I'm not afraid to say anymore. Like, he's playing 4D chess. This is the Trump art of the deal. It's, it's, and by the way, it's the last thing I'll say before I asked Storm in a comment. Even though Stormy, like Stormy's, the great thing about Stormy is he's been on the same message the whole time. And he has not back off anything yet. Well, for this show, the whole time of the show, but the whole time since I met him.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And Stormy, I was actually going to get to that. I was going to bring that up because the broader global picture also reinforces what you've been saying to me in private. it. But on this show, too, you know, this has only been two, three, four months, whatever it is. But I think we met in 2022, maybe. But hang on. Let's hold that off before because I want to, I just want to finish what I'm saying here is that Trump is making these bold, ridiculous claims about Gaza to put pressure on Israel's neighbors. And to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to debate Israel in a certain way. It's a little bit murkier. It's a little bit more difficult to understand what he's trying to do to Israel.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But I think we can make a good guess at what the angle is with Israel. But first I want to talk about the angle with the Middle East, because the idea is he wants to bring the Saudis on board. He wants to bring the Saudis to the table, right? He's putting pressure on Egypt and Jordan. We've talked about that. But just I think yesterday or today, Marco Rubio and other people from the Trump administration are in Saudi Arabia talking to Putin and, you know, the Saudi, the Saudi people,
Starting point is 00:10:42 the Saudi princes are all there. And they have, they have an interest in what happens with the people of Gaza. Where are they also holding the Russia-Ukraine peace talks? Astral. Well, it's in Saudi Arabia, isn't it in? Isn't it? Where is it in Saudi Arabia? It's in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, okay. I didn't know if you were. So the same differences you're talking about are also going to be creating the peace talk in virus. Sorry, hosting the peace talks and the Russia-Ukraine war. If Thomas isn't vindicated that this, that Ukraine and Israel-Palestine is the same conflict, I don't know what else will vindicate him.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I mean, dude, are there, I want feedback on this. Are there people who don't get that? do you get that impression every every day every day i see it they think that they're separate things right so like they'll say oh trump is they're not in the game he's doing in israel or whatever like it's all part of the same thing like how can you not see this yeah to quote thomas if someone doesn't get that they're not in the game yeah p had a a guest on recently i can't remember the name the guy's name off the top of my head which i feel bad because he remembered mine when he was citing some of the stuff that I said.
Starting point is 00:12:10 But he's a hedge fund manager. I almost want to postpone the Israel part of the conversation until Pete jumps on, only because that was the episode he last did. Actually, let me pull it up. It's that good. I encourage everyone to take a listen because he kind of, he explains what I tried to explain, except he is, he doesn't suffer from the same disease.
Starting point is 00:12:36 that I suffer from where I am medically incapable of explaining anything in a concise fashion. He's able to do that. He's able to do it really good. That's why we do two hour episodes that are several episodes long. Yeah, his name is, where is it? Ron Dodson. So Pete, it's episode 1174. I encourage everyone to listen to it because this guy went into, apparently this guy.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Well, tell him the name of that episode, the name of the episode. It is, yeah, it's literally called, what was it? So there we go. It's the Trump, the Trump negotiation style. Yes. Yeah, because I didn't even know this was the thing about how like this man has been negotiating with, with unions and labor on his job sites is exactly what he's doing now. It's no different.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Like when I heard it, I was like, this is a much better way of like my little spider web chart with the string. This is like a much more like this is the motive behind all the strings. Like so like this is like I can explain like what is happening and why like these this is why a person would would do this or why a person would want this end state or want these these countries involved or whatever or what like the play is in the broad region. But like I had no idea like just this is the way he goes about doing things. So like both are true like these these are his objectives at a national or regional level but this is also his preferred way about going about negotiations.
Starting point is 00:14:18 This is his style. Yeah, well, yeah, because he binds everybody. He makes sure everybody has skin in the game. Like I'm saying, I really wish Pete was here. He's here. He just popped in. Oh, yeah, Pete, hate to put you on the spot, but we're talking about Ron Dodson's episode with you
Starting point is 00:14:38 and particularly the way Trump binds labor on his real estate developments to where they have just as much skin in the game with what he's doing in Gaza. His explanation was so much more concise than mine. Yeah, the
Starting point is 00:14:54 and you know what's crazy is as a days go by, I think this Gaza thing is real. Oh yeah, that means stormy just said that, bro. Fully on board 100% now. Yeah, but what Dodson was describing is just absolutely ingenious because it also goes to dispel the myth about how, oh, Trump would get in business with someone who'd pay him for something and then he just ditch him and everything like that. It's like, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:25 If you're all, if if your profit and your success in a project is contingent on everybody cooperating, I don't know how that how that happens. That's how you put, when you have someone with skin in the game, if labor has skin in the game like you do, and all the parts depend on each other, then, yeah, how are you guys thinking this plays into what he's doing with this Gaza deal?
Starting point is 00:16:03 Well, let's, for the listener, you have to go listen to Pete's episode, because there's no way we can reiterate the whole thing. but when they're talking about labor, these guys, they're talking about the unions. Dodson was saying that the unions always have a certain position in the negotiating table, and there's kind of like a standard way to deal with them,
Starting point is 00:16:21 but Trump had his own way. And Trump's way, he was able to muscle them into getting things out of them that pretty much nobody else could. And Pete, I mean, you're the guy who talked to him, correct me if I'm wrong,
Starting point is 00:16:34 but basically what he was saying was that he sees this technique and this tactic at play here in the Gaza deal. Now, I want to ask you to clarify something, Pete, actually. Just for the listener, Marco Rubio is in Saudi, but so are Mike Walsh, the National Security Advisor and Steve Whitkoff, the envoy to the Middle East. Steve Whitkoff is the one who got Israel to agree to the prisoner swap that's being deployed right now as they laid it out. So despite the noise that Israel and Hamas are making about not wanting to follow it, they are following it.
Starting point is 00:17:14 So Pete, you said, if you could clarify for me, you said you think the Gaza thing is real and I agreed with you. But now I realize I don't know if we mean the same things. I think it's a negotiating tactic. And perhaps he really means it. Like perhaps this is a game of chicken and he really will fucking kick the Palestinians out and resettle them. but when you say it's real i think what you mean or what the way i see it is that it's his negotiating tactic and he's doing it to to get an outcome that he wants and he's not really that's not really his desired outcome he's not really trying to resettle the gossans the palestinians and
Starting point is 00:17:53 take gaza are you saying that you think he is oh hang on you might be muted i can't hear you i don't think that's off the table but but here's the problem with that is where are you going to send them? Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favorite Liddle items all reduced to clear.
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Starting point is 00:19:17 It took, what did they send like 200 sick kids to Jordan or 2000? And that took some serious negotiating. Who's going to take them? Egypt's not going to take them. They've taken them before. They immediately go in there and start being subversive. I think this is more about here's my fear
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'll tell you well here's my fear and we can and maybe we can jump off of this and maybe I can get my brain going with this one my fear is that he is going to want to have the Palestinians stay there and and
Starting point is 00:20:04 and have his like start building it up like, you know, like Beirut used to be pre-1983, where he wants to build like another Las Vegas there, but the Palestinians are still going to be there. Here's the problem with that. Just as in this country, we have a class of people who are mentally ill and who basically are willing to do violence against whoever they think is a fascist or a Nazi and that's basically anybody to the right of Jonah Goldberg and even Jonah Goldberg
Starting point is 00:20:43 is probably a Nazi to most of them. These people, these Palestinians are, they think a certain way. And there are no, it's even worse than what the, you know, what the transvestites and all of the activists here are because they're like in a literal war. So the question becomes if Trump is looking for looking to be do what Jimmy Carter couldn't do and he wants to be the hero, you're still dealing with a bunch of people, you're dealing with a couple million people who hate Israelis, Jews. and then you have Jews who hate Palestinians. How do you make that work? You know, it's like we talk here about how, oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:46 before we can even get past all of the Christian Zionism and the Zionism that is so instilled in people here, the boomers are going to have to die off. Okay. If that's so instilled here and we're not firing, rockets at each other and everything. How do you change the minds of these people? How do you do?
Starting point is 00:22:08 I mean, these are people who call it PTSD, call it mental illness, call it whatever you want. How do you change that? I mean, you're talking about a miracle. You're talking about performing miracles because this is who they are on both sides. I'm not excusing either of them. This is who they are. How do you have a two-state solution?
Starting point is 00:22:33 I mean, do you, is it like with the Indians where you're going to build all of these casinos and you're going to let them run them and, you know, have profit from them and you're going to try and turn Palestinians into frigging, you know, seminal Indians here who have a stake in casinos? What the hell? How do you do this? If you're not planning on getting rid of all of them, which I don't think they are because there's nowhere to send them. And I've heard, you know, we've had the Spirgs on, we've had the Spirgs on social media go, he's going to bring them here. He's going to bring the Palestinians here. I'm like, he brings the Palestinians here. Basically, he loses MAGA and his reputation, his, his legacy is gone.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So how do we work this? How does this work? Either way, I don't see a solution to this. It's like, you know, we were talking about the other day on Old Glory Club, Lutham. was talking about how if the left is not completely defeated in the next four years and somehow in 2028 they get back in power like we're dead they're going to they're going to want to kill us and i'm not even being hyperbolic there are going to be those of us who they are going to want to it's not going to be the fbi throwing us in jail is going to be hunting us down okay and that's just
Starting point is 00:23:58 belief systems. They're literally trying to kill each other over there, and they have been for, they've been killing each other for, you know, a century. Okay. Tell me how that, how does any of this work? Well, let's, uh, let's keep 2028 aside for now in the American situation, except to say that, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:23 we are currently watching a purge and a liquidation of the federal government And it's not just waste, fraud, and abuse. It's also Trump's enemies. It's also people who aren't loyal, and he's protecting people who are loyal. But I want to hold off on that for a minute to talk about God's a little bit longer to say that if I see any angle for how this puts pressure on Israel and how this is maneuvering relating to Israel, it's this. Israel wants those people to go to America and Europe. Because if they go there, then it's our problem. And it doesn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And they don't care what happens to us over here. They don't want them to go to, say, Egypt. Because remember Stormy's, I think it was the last episode where Stormy was talking about how you have a tenuous situation, a brittle situation in Egypt, where you have a country full of true believers. with this thin veneer of this regime on top that's like barely keeping things together. And the guards on the border, Storm was talking about how like, some of them will like, they're on the Palestinian side, but they have to follow orders. So some of them will jihad themselves and, and like martyr themselves, basically. Because they know they're going to go to heaven.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So they, in that sense, they can like serve their religion and serve their religion and serve of Allah, but they don't have to go against their government, right? Egypt funnels, people in Egypt funneled drugs, supplies, weapons, and fighters into Gaza. That's where they come from. I don't know if any of them are coming directly through the Golan Heights to Lebanon, but I doubt it because Israel is there. I've never read that they have gone that way. I have read lots of reports that they're coming through Egypt, which means there are people sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and sympathetic to Hamas in Egypt.
Starting point is 00:26:33 So my thought is that if they send the Palestinians to Egypt, that Israel doesn't want that because they're going to find a bunch of friendly people there who are already helping them in very material ways. When there's blockades and there's embargoes, how do they get their supplies? they get them through Egypt. Who sends them these improprized explosive device, or at least the raw materials to make them? They come through Egypt. So I'm speculating here,
Starting point is 00:27:02 and Stormy, if you have any thoughts come in and, you know, refute me or back me up. But I don't, I think Israel sees it as a threat to them to have the Palestinians, they can't go to Jordan. They just can't go to Jordan. And Jordan won't take them.
Starting point is 00:27:18 but Jordan said they would declare war. Yeah, exactly. And the king of Jordan has no choice. 60% of 50 to 60, depending on his company. Jordan will be fucked. Jordan will be fucked. 50% of their population is Palestinians
Starting point is 00:27:37 already displaced from the Nakhua. Yeah, I knew there was a lot. They were barely holding on half the population. Same with Lebanon. So it's the same thing then. They got all these fucking people there who are already sympathetic. They're Palestinians. Like these people are a diplomatic or they're a political nightmare because they are the largest source of instability in these nations as it is now.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Right. Like if U.S. Arms. Intelligence. Commanding control was not like to say that like. Jordan has as much of U.S. military assistance and political assistance as Saudi Arabia does. But we don't hear about it because Jordan doesn't make all the fucking oil. Because without that, the king of Jordan would not, like, he would be gone in a day.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Same thing with Cece. Right. Cici is there entirely because we not only put him there, we fund his entire government and thus the entire population. of Egypt. And this is the power that Russia has, because again, like, it's not a coincidence that Trump is putting this in the hands of the Saudis. It's a, what is it? It's a King Solomon thing with the two mothers and the baby. You got Israel on one side and the Arab states on the other. And Trump's like, oh, well, I'm just going to take it for me. I'm just going to cut it in half. Ready for huge savings?
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Starting point is 00:30:44 The only way you do that is if you have the Arab states pay for it. And they're not going to pay for it unless it's a situation that they are equal. equally as okay with as the Israelis. The Israelis want the Palestinians gone. The Arab states know that if they participate and or aid in any way displacing those Palestinians, well, to give you an idea, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, it's in like the last 20 years, has had a prison population of roughly like two or 300 at any given time. they're not big on prison right the country is heavily surveilled even before mbs nobody says
Starting point is 00:31:29 fuck all on social media because they know like you don't even have to censor men will come and stick you in a box for infinity time or execute you whichever there's no like try there's none of this right Like, think of, like, the worst tropes of, you know, Stalin's Russia. Like, men come and yank you out of your house in the middle of the night. Nobody ever sees you again. All right. So they don't really have a big prison population. You know what the prison population is now?
Starting point is 00:32:03 And I'm hearing this from people in Saudi Arabia. 30 to 40,000. They're having to house these people, the prisoners in, like, containers. Like, what do they call it? What are they called the refrigerator shipping containers? Yeah, shipping containers is what I thought you meant. Yeah, but the ones with the refrigeration units, they have like, they're like, they're like, refer containers.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I can't remember what it is. Oh, yeah, they're having to do that. They need to keep it climate control, yeah. Yeah, they're basically doing like, because the population is at such a point where people don't even care anymore. Like, I don't think people understand how deep, everyone, this is the problem, this is the problem with everybody talking about the fucking situation on Twitter
Starting point is 00:32:48 is because they're own, they can only see things in i hate is real and i'm mad at the u.s they only see two actors right but there is like each arab do you want to know why um Elon must bought Twitter uh I have thoughts you had the money yeah tell tell me because I've been thinking about the whole Germany thing well he got how do you get the money he put a lot of it up himself and drison horowitz put some of it up oh yeah yeah he put stock up somebody somebody somebody let him use that as collateral and let him borrow against it so he used yeah that's right that's right that's right that's right and on tucker's most recent interview
Starting point is 00:33:37 with the richest man in saudi arabia right he's an investor um what is that good i was going to get that one it's really good is that one okay all right i'll look it up i'll So HRH. I saw that. I think I'll skip this one. I'll pull it up. Shaid bin Talal. The guy,
Starting point is 00:34:02 the guy, because you remember when MBS first took over and it was like... Yeah, Al-Aouid bin Talal. He's had several episodes since then. Saudi Arabia's richest prince. Yep. He's the only prince that didn't go.
Starting point is 00:34:19 into the Four Seasons prison camp with all the other Saudi billionaires because he is he has that much juice even MBS was scared to touch him and rightfully so what is NBS what is MBS what is MBS MBS Mb Mbiz Mh Mh Mh Mitzv Yeah, Mohammed bin Sama He's the he's the Saudi crown prince that basically took over the country in a palace coup right so that yeah he's the guy that killed the uh shogi dude so that's that's his own fucking story yeah i know yes it is yes it yes it is so this is the one billion this is the one trillionaire that the mbs is afraid to touch this guy's probably
Starting point is 00:35:08 sitting on i know it's hard for people to comprehend but easily 10 trillion dollars eight trillion dollars. Right, whenever they do the who's the richest people in the world, you notice how you see no Saudi princes on there? No, I never thought of that. But you're right. Now that you say it, they're nowhere on the list. None of them.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Nowhere on the list. There's a reason for that. Okay. So MBS is meeting with, I'm looking at a picture right now of him and Rubio. Yep. Exactly. So, basically. if all of these guys, so the amount of capital that Trump has just sitting in the Arab states right now
Starting point is 00:35:52 in the pockets of people that are very, very, very scared of their population is limitless. It's infinity. All right. So when he says this isn't going to cost any taxpayer money, that's going to sound ridiculous to a lot of people. Because again, they only see the two fucking actors as the U.S. and Israel. I'm sorry. it's called the Middle East, not the Middle Israel. Other people fucking live here
Starting point is 00:36:18 and their populations are tearing their governments apart. Egypt barely, I mean, Pete, like this goes further into the point that they're having the Russian peace talks in Saudi Arabia at the same time as Trump is going to the Saudis to fix this. This is all happening at the same time. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:40 They're getting, proven right. They're getting every. everyone together and they're going to they're going to figure this out and i it's trump's the one who's doing this he's the one who's like all right what is everybody need and he's going the way he's going to negotiate this is everyone's going to have skin in the game and everyone's going to have something to lose if it if they every if anybody backs out and people are going to back out believe me this nothing's ever perfect but he is doing his his typical negotiation where he's getting all of these actors to come together. Everyone's going to
Starting point is 00:37:18 have skin in the game. And it's going to hurt somebody to violate whatever agreements they come to. Yep. The naysayor, I have no time over Israel. Hold on. Hold on. What is what what is what? So our aid, we fund the entire Egyptian government. The reason that Egypt, Egypt's population has exploded to making it the highest density population in the world, which is Cairo right now, more than Tokyo, more than Beijing or Shanghai, or any of those fucking bugmen, you know, cities in East Asia. It's right next door to Israel, literally 10 miles away from the Israeli border is the largest Arab population center in the world. do you know how far they are from their centers of government right you know where the you know where the
Starting point is 00:38:17 50 yards yep do you know how long the last coup took the last uh revolt and takeover less than an hour and a half it was over before people even knew it was happening because they just rushed across the street and parliament is right there and right over there is the prime minister's palace you talk about when over through embark. Yep. All that money goes to Russia for grain. The entire population is fed.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It's Russia, not Ukraine? It's Russia. It's Russia. Okay. I'm glad you clarified that. That came out in the last week that I mean, it was like record grain shipments from Russia to Egypt.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yep. Because that's record US dollars going. And this is why the, Well, look, he suspended all the U.S. aid to all these countries, but he's still funding Israel. Israel controls everything. Nigger, it's not just Israel. You're lying. It's Israel, Egypt, and Jordan. So if any time Putin wants Israel to not be a problem, and this is the thing. Think about Syria. All Putin has to do is stop the grain shipments and the U.S. can't get supplies there fast enough. it is overthrown and nearest makes no difference 50 million very hungry people oh yeah with the largest
Starting point is 00:39:51 tank army in the middle east the largest armored columns outside of turkey actually i think egypt's armor the armor course not like the overall size of the army because they don't have the Air Force and the Navy that Turkey does. But we're just talking about tanks, armored personnel carriers, surface-to-air missile systems, ballistic missile systems, ground-based cruise missiles. Egypt has more than anybody. And they are 10 fucking miles away hanging by a tiny, tiny, tiny threat of Russian grain that Putin can yank at any time. And unless you understand that, you don't understand the strategic dynamic of the Middle East. So Saudi Arabia cannot risk that guy. If CC goes, MBS goes, every one of these little Arab governments in the whole region go.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Because they're all hanging on by a thread. And remember the Arab Spring, how fast that kicked off? It went across every Middle Eastern government within a month because all these people are unhappy. and they're now with the fucking Palestine thing, they are way more unhappy. So not only does Saudi Arabia need the Palestinians not to go anywhere. Do the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman,
Starting point is 00:41:19 all in the same boat. All with bottomless bank accounts. Like to think that this is just Trump and the U.S. and Israel is the, and I'm hearing it from people that should fucking know better. Yeah, they're really dropping the fucking ball If I could say something real quick, two points I want to make about Egypt.
Starting point is 00:41:40 The first is going back to what I said before is that this is probably the way Trump is leveraging this against Israel is that Israel doesn't want a bunch of displaced Palestinians in a country right next door that has a bunch of people sympathetic to them who are already pissed off. When Mubarak got overthrown in the Arab Spring, remember all the neocons were jumping for joy and all the left wing people were jumping for joy. like we're going to have democracy in Egypt now. Well, they voted the Muslim Brotherhood in. So, you know, I'm not just talking out my ass here that they're all sympathetic. They're overwhelming the Middle East. So that's where they're at. And then I forgot what my, oh, my other point, what Storm is talking about,
Starting point is 00:42:26 he's talking about the strength of the Egyptian military. I see this come up sometimes and the counter is always, oh, last time Israel fought them, they kicked their ass. Last time Israel fought them, they kicked their ass. Well, first of all, two things I want to point out. The first is that the last two times Israel went against Hezbollah now and in 2007, they backed off. And they backed off. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:42:50 There's some people who think they know what the fuck we're talking about. I'm not going to name any names, but you shouldn't be listening to them who were talking about how fucking, oh, this time in Lebanon it was different. Israel kicked Hezbollah's ass. Okay, they backed off pretty fucking quick, actually, if you look at it. at the time span of it. They backed off pretty fucking quick. So if they backed off pretty quick from Hezbollah, do you really think they want to fuck with Egypt now all of a sudden? And I'm not saying Egypt is, is so tough or badass, but I want everyone, I want to refer everyone to Pete's three-part series with Thomas on Syria. Because something Thomas makes clear in that episode is that we remember
Starting point is 00:43:30 the war between Egypt and Syria. I think it was 71. that Egypt kicked their ass, but it didn't actually, I mean, excuse me, Israel kicked Egypt's ass. It didn't really play out that way. There was a, A, there was a lot of negotiations, right, that were behind the scenes. B, Israel took some casualties that they probably can't or aren't willing to take now. Because if they backed off that quick on Hezbollah, who was killing one or two a day, and Egypt has bigger capabilities than that, are they really willing to engage in a hot war? with Egypt and see
Starting point is 00:44:08 in retrospect you know Thomas does a good job of laying out how like we were made to remember it differently than how it played out with the way they talk about it now I don't know if you want to add to that Pete but I'll have to link that three part it's it you can't even listen to this show to be honest with you without watching that with Pete and Thomas because he fucking lays out so much that you it will give you a better understanding of everything that's going on in the
Starting point is 00:44:35 Middle East right now. Well, you know, it's hard for a lot of the bros who think that Israel controls everything to deal with the fact that Russia and Israel are mortal enemies. You know, and I like to point out, all of Israel's enemies, what weapon are they wielding against Israel? It's a Russian... Is Israel's enemies? Oh, yes. Yes, of course. Right, right, right, right. All of their enemies are wielding Russian guns. Why? Because the Soviet Union went there and built AK factories and taught them how to make AKs so that they could fight against Israel.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Where did Iran's hypersonic missiles come from? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The whole system. Their anti-aircraft system, everything, everything is Russian. Larry Johnson, last time I talked to him on my show. said that their version of the C-130,
Starting point is 00:45:46 the Russian version of the C-130, I forget what it's called, that they were just, there was like a couple days where they were landing one after another and they were just dropping off what people didn't know, but it turned out.
Starting point is 00:45:57 The incident off. Yeah, the incident off. They were dropping off weapons to, they were dropping off weapons systems to fight any kind of Israeli attacks, air attacks. And I mean, I've heard that No, this is now.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, this is now. This is now. This is in the last few months. Yeah. This is in the last few months. Yeah, remember the air attack that Israel did against Iran? How'd that one go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like, the closest an Israel bird could get, plane could get to Iran was like, I think they barely broke the southern border before they had to fire and hope that something I think they killed like five people or something like that. And it was like civilians. So this was the largest air operation in Middle Eastern history, by the way. And they they accomplished nothing. And then here was something that I've talked about recently. Everybody wants, if you listen to Judge Naptshow,
Starting point is 00:47:05 he will remind you that Mary M. Edelson gave, gave, all this money, these millions to Trump. And then if you listen to us, you'll hear us talk about how Elon Musk gave him 250 million. In Trump's life, what country has given him more, who's given him more money than anyone else? Who's bailed him out of situations? Who's given him, who's taken care of him when he was at his love? lowest.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Saudi Arabia. Bought his yacht when he needed money, bailed him out when he needed money. Who is Trump loyal to? Okay. Who knows? Who the fuck knows? But to say that, oh, it's just 100% Israel is to ignore the fact that when they needed to get something, when they needed to have a,
Starting point is 00:48:09 a summit to figure out what the hell is going on and how they're going to solve all these problems. Where are they meeting? Meeting inside a lot. Yeah, I know. Exactly. I mean, it is, put it this way. We know a lot. We don't know the half of it.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Most of the people who are commenting on what's happening don't know shit. Yeah, that's why they're doing. Yeah, I mean, all they're doing is they're using their own. own prejudices, prejudices that may be shared by other people, even on this call, but they're allowing that hatred to not allow them to think through situations. Saudi Arabia came to Trump's aid when Trump was at his lowest. Lowest. I mean, he was in dire.
Starting point is 00:49:08 He needed money fast. Who bail them out? Tucker even jokes about that on that episode. Like, you bought Donald Trump's yacht. Do you still have it? How do you like it? I can't believe I skipped an episode. Russia Gate is not entirely wrong.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I know. Yeah, it's more right than you. It's kind of true, actually. Me and Stormy have talked about this in private. Yeah, it's not entirely fault. like, so the neocons saw something that scared them and then created a fiction to basically let them act on that fear early.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Trump has great relationships with Russia, particularly around business. If you look at who buys most of the condos in his fancy buildings, in the U.S. anyways, in the U.S. All right. A lot of Russian oligarchs. So, I mean, to not think of the currency thing that's happening,
Starting point is 00:50:24 like, you're watching the unwinding of the offshore dollar market, which is used to settle what commodity? Oil. Oil, yeah. Right. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more than just Russia, Ukraine, and Israel, Palestine is going to be. going to be sorted out in Saudi.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And Israel's boy, Mr. Zelensky, isn't even fucking invited. I know, dude. I wanted to talk about this so bad. They fucking left him out. It's perfect. It's brilliant. If you, if you this is why I, Pete, before
Starting point is 00:51:09 you came on, man, I was like, that's it. I'm done. How mad is Bill Crystal right now? Fuck the naysayers. Dude, so many people are so mad. And them leaving Zelensky out, it proves, that I've been right the whole time. Me and Stormy were right the whole time
Starting point is 00:51:24 that there's no way Trump's going to end the war. There's no way Trump is like on board with that side at all. You mentioned something to me that I did not know about whose minerals. I didn't hear this still about like two hours ago. Go on, Astral?
Starting point is 00:51:48 Well, it's so labyrinthine that I don't have it all sorted yet. But as soon as I saw Trump say, you guys got a lot of minerals there, and you're going to have to use those. If you want us to help you anymore, you're going to have to use those to pay us for what we're doing to help you. So we're going to have to, or we don't have the money. Yeah, exactly. What we've already invested. They want, Trump wants the half a trillion dollars back. All the aid that went to Ukraine, he wants it back.
Starting point is 00:52:22 not giving them more when he says And they can't pay us So all they can do is give us a stake in their mineral rights Yep And I read that 40% Estimated of all their mineral deposits Are now controlled by Russia
Starting point is 00:52:38 So they've lost And you know So the point stormy was getting at though Is these mineral reserves Were in some sense controlled by the oligarchs If they weren't out owned by them, and in many cases they are outright owned by them. The oligarchs were the only people who, A, had the capital to invest to develop it and mine it and develop it.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And B, had the infrastructure to get all this done. They had companies that already have experience doing this. So, you know, when you hear about somebody like Igor Kolomoisky, and I always throw his name out just because me and Storming did an episode on him, he's only one of many. when you hear about him funding his own private military and fighting in the east with Russia for years prior to... What was that military called? What was that military called? It's called the Azov Battalion.
Starting point is 00:53:34 He, Colomoisky funded the Nipro Battalion because he's from the Nipro region. The Azov Battalion is to the west and south of him. Do you know who's... Do you own the Azov Stahl steel plant? It's this other guy that I can't think of his name. I can look it up. He's another fuck. Colomoisky.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah, but he was not paying the, he was not paying the, he was not the one bankrolling the Azov Battalion though. The Avrozov Battalion was being bankrolled by someone in Kiev. Whichever. But the point I'm making here is the reason why Kolomoisky had his own private, it's very fucking complicated. But the reason
Starting point is 00:54:18 Colin Kolomoisky had his own private military that had been fighting with Russian separatists for, I guess it's seven, eight years prior to the invasion is not because he's a fucking Ukrainian patriot. He's not. He's a traitor to Ukraine. And we laid it out in stark detail how and why he's a traitor in our episode. He was fighting them to secure the minerals that he needed. access to because he owns he he own holding firms that invested he owned exploratory firms that would
Starting point is 00:54:56 go and locate this and he owned extraction firms that would take it out of the ground and refine it in factories that he owned and of course hunter biden was on the board of one of these firms and was getting paid a million dollars a year he was getting paid like fifty thousand dollars a month to help colomoisky's interests in kiev the Kiev government, right? So that's why Kolomoisky funded his own private military and fought the Russians. It was to secure. He has triple citizenship in Cyprus, Israel, and Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:55:30 He's not a Ukrainian. But who is Igor. Who is Igor Kolomoisky in relationship to, let's say, I mean, Pete, like, I know you and I know who did the legwork on this, but Eurekulamoisky is an Israeli intelligence officer. He was the one that, he was the one that owned MC squared modeling, along with, along with what's, what's his name, John Luke Brunel and won Jeffrey Epstein? Well, that was an offshoot of, no, MC squared was John Luke Pranel. It's another one. It's the other one.
Starting point is 00:56:17 the other fucking modeling agency. The other agency was called plus one. The dude was also the chairman of the world Zionist Congress. Like, Colomoisky? Yeah. Colomoisky personally funded the largest Holocaust museum in the world.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Okay? He was behind the biggest money laundering scheme on record in history that he ran through America. through Delaware, which of course is where Joe Biden was the fucking senator. Now look, we've covered all this at length. Why is this relevant, though? Why is this relevant? So the U.S., Trump is probably bargaining.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Okay. I don't think we're probably not going to end up with any rights to any of these minerals. I don't think that this money is going to be paying back to the United States taxpayer. I would like that. I think that's the best case scenario. I think it's a bargaining chip. The thing people need to understand why this is all. relevant to what's happening in Saudi Arabia right now as Marco Rubio, Wittkoff, and
Starting point is 00:57:22 Walls negotiate what happens in Russia is because all of these rare earth minerals in Ukraine are either a nobody can fucking get to them because they they're in a war and it can't be developed because it's there's like active fucking warfare happening on the ground that these minerals are buried under. So this is like a long-term thing. I was reading one report out of Ukraine that says the earliest they think they'll get at some of these deposits is like 2027 at the earliest. And I'm talking about virgin untouched stuff. So millions, tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars are going to have to be invested in this to get those minerals, right? And nobody wants to do that in a war zone.
Starting point is 00:58:10 But some of the minerals like uranium and lithium are in places that they are able to get to them. are already refining them and they're being refined in factories refineries that are owned by the Ukrainian government well here's the fucking thing and this is how it ties into what me and stormy are talking about the Ukrainian government only recently took these refineries over after the Maidan revolution they took them from various oligarchs these were all run by the USSR and then they were taken over by oligarchs in the 90s, and then they became billionaires in the 2000s, and then once the Maidan revolution happened,
Starting point is 00:58:53 they were all kind of on the same side, right? They backed the Maidan revolution. They're friendly to the Kiev government. Yeah, Black Rock came in and underwrote all of it. But once the Kiev government nationalized some of these things, for example, Kolomoisky ran that Ponzi scheme, that money laundering scheme through America, it was because he was defrauding a bank.
Starting point is 00:59:11 He was defrauding a private bank. So the Ukrainian government took it over and they nationalized his bank. All right. After they did that, they took over one of his refineries, a steel refinery somewhere in the west of Ukraine. So what did McCollomoisky do? He fucking took his private army from Nipro and fucking took over the refinery and went on Ukrainian television and said, this is mine. These fucking people took it from me. The people he's referring to were the government in Kiev that took over after the Maidan Revolution.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And then what does he do? He installs Zelensky. So there is tension between these oligarchs and the Ukrainian government. The oligarchs took their refineries away from them. And now those refineries are what Trump is saying he's going to take away. So he's sending a message to these oligarchs, okay? You have to understand this. He's not just bargaining with the Ukrainian government.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Those oligarchs are still there like, no. motherfucker. Those are my refineries. I'm getting those back. They all want them back. It's open. It's, they say, you know, Colomoisky fled to Israel and he's like, fuck Ukraine. Fuck the Ukrainian government. I'm going back there and I'm getting all my shit back. Pete, do you remember? Oh, you finish up. Well, the last thing I wanted to say was Trump, to your point, initially stormy, Trump is talking to them directly. He's saying, you guys aren't getting your shit. back if you don't make peace with Russia. We're getting it and you're out. So it's not just the Ukrainian government. That's all I'm saying. No, but who needs these resources? Pete, do you remember what I told you about like a lot of these oligarchs being fleshy bank accounts for somebody else? And what happened when a couple of the Russian oligarchs died and they were trying to settle the estate whose name they found? I don't remember whose name they found, but you definitely
Starting point is 01:01:11 talked about the fact that these Russian oligarchs died. you'll see them getting caught doing like drug deals and that's because they their money isn't their own um that's them trying to make money on their own they're just basically a bank account for somebody else but i don't remember who you said was uh specifically okay so there is a a lovely news article it is kind of old i think it was 20 12 or 13, it came out in a British press, but was all over the Russian press. So if you go to Yandex, you'll find this much easier. Actually, let me do that.
Starting point is 01:02:02 So there was a Russian oligarch that passed away unsuspectedly, and not in the kind of unsuspected where, like, he had a plane crash or whatever, or a helicopter crash. in like the actual unexpected way. I believe he had like a sudden heart attack. And they were settling his estate. And the family got all of the money. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:24 So all the money that were in like the bank accounts and the assets. But the shares of the oil company and thus the oil underneath it went to an unnamed party. Which you can't do. Russia are like, everybody thinks it's like, you know, just kind of like slapstick, third world country. These people are incredibly, incredibly, what's the word, not litigious. They're like documents. Yeah. Yeah, they document everything.
Starting point is 01:03:08 It's like a leftover of communism. Like these guys have reports and papers and rules. They're suing the shit out of the government. governments, both in Ukraine and Russia. Yeah. I'm sure. So when they were settling this fucking guy's estate, they ended up having to like, you know, it took like two or three years. It was a big scandal in Russia.
Starting point is 01:03:28 They ended up finding that that unnamed party was Natty Rothschild. And what exactly is happening between the UK and NATO and the US right now? Yeah. Starmor saying he's going to put troops boots on the ground. Yeah, exactly. Let's remind everybody, the Rothschilds are based in the city of London. They own England.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Flat out, they're also the people that created this offshore dollar market that's collapsing. And also the people that run LIBOR. Anyways, that's a whole other thing. Check out the season finale we all did with, on Thomas's show, and then the second half with Astrol. And that'll explain what I'm talking about. This is all one big fucking thing. It really is.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Eager Colomoisky is just another one of these fucking cutouts no different than George Soros George Soros is another one of these fucking cutouts right like they're just fleshy yeah the other big guy in Ukraine is Pinchuk Pinchuk is more friendly he's more friendly with the Ukrainian government than Colomoisky but he's richer than Kolomoisky
Starting point is 01:04:39 and it's the same interests they tore out all of the prosecutors out of the Southern District of New York the other day. Yeah, I saw that. One of them was a Sassoon. She had only been on the job for four months. But this is actually a big deal. They're trying to make a big deal out of her. Oh, this, you know, she's so, you know, she's only been there for four months. She's from the Sassoon family. I'm sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:13 the SDNY Southern District in New York is effectively its own kingdom right it's the federal process this is why like Epstein thing happened in Florida where did that go went to the Southern District of New York name any fucking sketch
Starting point is 01:05:35 sketchy fucking dirtbag scandal and all of a sudden the feds come in and make it federal and then that's chick gets done out of the Southern District of New York. If you want to know where all the regime's bodies are buried, they're buried in the Southern District of New York. They also use SDNY. They also use SDNY as a weapon.
Starting point is 01:05:55 When Ross Ulbrook was caught, they transferred it to the Southern District in New York because Chuck Schumer wanted to handpick Catherine Forrest, the judge, to make sure that he would go to jail for two life terms plus 40. Catherine Forrest, by the way, yeah, member of a tribe, certain one.
Starting point is 01:06:20 She actually, she's not, but she may as well be. She is at every one of their events, everyone gets every one of their awards. Yeah, you could almost call the Southern District of New York like a castle in academic agents. You know, it is a stronghold of Jewish power.
Starting point is 01:06:42 it is the federal prosecutory district that can basically act rogue and no one else says anything. All right. So like if the administration is doing X in every previous administration, SDNY could go off and prosecute whatever the fuck he wants. And it can be counter to the administration's agenda, it doesn't matter. SDNY basically gets to operate like its own sovereign territory. And the prosecutors fucking act that way. And all the fucking sketch bullshit.
Starting point is 01:07:12 happens out of SD&Y. And are they the ones who were going after Trump and prosecuted Trump? Is that where he got prosecuted? Yeah, that's what I thought. Letitia James. Is she there? Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:26 And also, funny enough, a scandal has emerged in Philadelphia, Peter. Have you been monitoring what's happening to our good friend Joseph Shapiro? the governor of the state of Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro no I haven't What's been going on there? What's going on on there? Oh apparently he murdered a bitch Oh yeah I knew about that Yeah this is uh this is
Starting point is 01:07:56 This is actually old news but somebody's dragging it back up Yeah standard Standard Epstein style black Oh no Was it was it he that did it Or did he when he was attorney general I think he covered up for another Jew who had murdered a girl.
Starting point is 01:08:14 That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it was this thing where, if I remember the details a little, he came home, said that his found his, found his girlfriend murdered. But when they, he didn't call the cops immediately. He called his lawyer who called Josh Shapiro. then when they came and started investigating it,
Starting point is 01:08:43 they're like, yeah, there's no way that this went down the way he said it was. He started looking, this guy started looking like the, like the cult, like the perp. And Shapiro just had it buried. Had it buried, yeah. So state police officer blows whistle on government, on Governor Shapiro for playing key role in the Trump assassination.
Starting point is 01:09:09 This is on, This is on a whole bunch of media things. It was actually the very first thing that popped up. Oh, right. That went down in Pennsylvania. Exactly. Yes, it did. And this is from the post-millennial breaking. New documents corroborate whistleblower statements.
Starting point is 01:09:26 There's two whistleblowers, apparently, that have just come forward. One is a whistleblower in the case that Pete is talking about. And then there's the state police officers, two of them now, that are coming forward about the Trump thing. So post-millennial is, you know, new documents. Markman Show Governor Superior Providing legal advice to senior it. See, that's the, oh, and apparently he's hired a bunch of private attorneys.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Why would a man that is not guilty of anything all of a sudden need to hire a bunch of attorneys for himself personally? That's very interesting. It's Governor Leo Frank. Is it? Right? Pennsylvania, two, this happened a couple days ago.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Pennsylvania official reverses suicide ruling for women in the, wow. Democrat governor, Josh Shapiro, who served as Pennsylvania, reviewed the case when the Greenberg family sued Philadelphia Medical Examiner for labeling a suicide. All of a sudden, just now, IDF intelligence officer, governor of the state of Pennsylvania, all of a sudden, all the things are coming up out of the closet. And all of a sudden, he's lawyering up. Very interesting. And they take down SD&Y.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Well, I just wanted to mention that because so much is happening, it's easy to forget this. But Newsweek reported on February 8th that Trump had Latitia James and Alvin Bragg and a few others. had their security clearances revoked. Yeah, that was a power move. That was a fucking power move. And just tonight. At the same time as he, he did Brennan, too, right?
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yeah, he did Brennan. He did John Bolton. Didn't he do Biden at one point? Yeah, he did Pompeo too. God, I don't know about Biden. In two weeks. So listen, right now, 11 p.m. Monday, February 17th,
Starting point is 01:11:44 This is a developing story. We'll see where it goes. But everyone knows. Eric Adams was on. He was also on Tucker. They're holding his feet to the fire. They're prosecuting him on corruption, bribery, taking money from a foreign government,
Starting point is 01:11:59 giving a foreign government favors. Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. And he's claiming- Two first-class tickets on Turkish airways. Get the fuck out of here. I mean, don't get me wrong. It's got a nice first class. I've won.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Well, as far as I know, the mayor of L.A. had the same deal to somewhere in Nairobi or somewhere in Africa and that's where she was when the fires broke out. So I mean, I don't know how uncommon this is. So the argument is
Starting point is 01:12:29 that Eric Adams took over the city as mayor and was basically like what the, he was a Democrat and he was like well, what the fuck this is out of control with the illegal migrants. We got to do something. So he aligns with Trump So he's being prosecuted for being disloyal.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And he basically makes this claim 10 times in Tucker's show that he's being prosecuted because, I mean, he says that they told him because he's being disloyal. So the thing that came out today, and I'm going to get to the important thing at the end here, the thing that came out today is that four members of the city council resigned over this because they said, well, we're not going to prosecute Eric Adams. we don't want to work with him. He's a corrupt mayor, and we don't feel, you know, it's ethically in our, you know, aligned with our ethics to work with this guy, so we're not going to be able to follow his order.
Starting point is 01:13:21 So they resign, right? Kathy Holtzsche puts out a statement, a long statement saying, I'm really sorry to see them go. I don't want to go. I want to see if there's any way I can fix this. And, you know, the fight isn't over. We're going to see what we can do about this
Starting point is 01:13:37 and see, you know, we don't want Eric Holder to, you know, align with Trump and... Eric Adams, that Eric Holder. Oh, yeah, I wanted to talk about Eric Holder, too, though. I made that, that's a slip, actually, for a reason. Thank you for correcting me, though, Pete. So... This isn't Fast and Furious.
Starting point is 01:13:59 All this happens. Yeah, but Fast and Furious ties into what's going on with Mexico. Because the fucking Mexican... I don't want to get sidetracked, though. That was a mistake I made. Thank you for correcting me. Where I'm going with this? The reason I know this is because Trump put a statement out on truth social from Kathy Holtrell.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And then Trump's comment underneath it on true social was we're looking into getting Kathy Holtrell removed as governor of New York. Two hours ago, he said this. So it's a fucking full on purge, man. They're liquidating the opposition. It's a full on purge. They're over doing the same thing in Germany to get AFD elected. It looks like they're going to go after Keir Starmor. I don't think this is the last we've heard of them in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Well, so look at who, look at who vetoed. Look at who vetoed the Brits putting in troops. It was Germany today. Did they? Germany vetoed. Yep. No. Very interesting.
Starting point is 01:15:10 So I mean, if you guys don't mind The Munich Security Conference. Yeah, let me just Well, okay, the Eric Holder thing actually is relevant to the president, Shine bomb. It's like a fucking 11, 11 PM, 11 PM, US Special Forces deployed to Mexico for training mission following spy plane signal signals intelligence operations.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Well, okay, we'll take a quick sidebar here because I made the mistake. The reason Eric Holder's on my mind is because Shinebaum, I mean, you, this stuff is everything is like, uh, the memes have all become real. We like, we created this fucking, uh, Agrigore through the meme world and they all just became real. Like, I think the beast has been exposed. The Leviathan is now out in the open and he's just like there for us to take shots at. Shinebond made some sort of comment to the effect of, uh, well, if Trump is going to do this with the tariffs, and I think, I think she said this in response to Trump declaring the cartels terrorists.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Okay, if you're going to, if you're going to call the Trump, the cartels terrorists, we're going to start prosecuting gun dealerships and gun manufacturers and gun sellers in America who provide the cartels with their weapons. And the first thing I thought is like, well, time's up for Eric Holder. Eric Holder's going to prison because he fucking did Fast and Furious and Fast and Fast and Furious. and Fast and Furious is known to be involved in both the assassination and murder of cartel members, Mexican citizens, and Mexican police.
Starting point is 01:16:50 So these people have nothing. These people have nothing. Shine bomb, she has nothing. They're all going to fucking fold to Trump. Everybody already is folding to Trump. Well, there's special forces in her country.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I mean, they are terrorists. The cartel, this is amazing. 100%. Literally like the movie. The movie Sicario became real life. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Yeah. Pete, what's your take on JD Vance lately? Both at the Munich Security Council and then also him engaging in, because, you know, Twitter's not real life or anything, right? Yeah. That's the other thing. I didn't think it was real life. It is now.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Sorry, Pete. Yeah. No, it is. And I used to say it isn't real life. infinitives. The, the, the Munich Security Council speech was his way of saying, we're getting our shit in order. If you don't get your shit in order, we're not going to, we're, we're not there for you. We can be there for you, but you have to get your shit in order. That's what I heard. then engaging with like anans i think you pronounce it eugipius and then today he called
Starting point is 01:18:16 medic hasan i think he called him a moron and uh one of my mutuals was like you know he typed out retard and then like deleted it and uh and put moron in there yeah i mean he's he's out there as it seems Trump is doing what a king does. He sits on his throne. He goes and talks to his subjects every once in a while. He went to Daytona Beach yesterday. So it's a NASCAR. But he's sending his best people out to deliver messages for him.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And Trump couldn't have delivered the message the way J.D. Danz delivered that message. He knows that. He has, what's Whitkoff? I mean, Whitkoff is, if you want to talk about the way Trump negotiates, I mean, Whitkoff is the same thing he is. He's just a New York, he's a New York Jew who's a real estate developer. He started by buying up things in Washington Heights. Anyone who knows New York knows Washington Heights and knows not the greatest neighborhood. I mean, I literally grew up across the water from it when I went, went out my front door and when I turned right, there was Washington Heights. Yeah, not that, not the nicest place. So this guy basically went in there and gentrified Washington Heights. These are, he's finding the
Starting point is 01:19:55 best people and the best negotiators and the best people to deliver a message. And he's delivering a message. And he's saying, it is going to be our way or you are going to suffer consequences. That's the message. That's the message he sent to everybody. By sending special forces into Mexico, what do you think the message is? That's the message. Now, you can, people can scream and spurg out about who's behind this message, who is, who's the one, you know, the way I see it is, There's three elite power factions who are fighting for his, you know, to try to get control of his message. And, you know, it's obvious that everyone's going to get a piece of the pie. No, you're not going to have the perfect.
Starting point is 01:20:52 But, you know, for those people who say things like, oh, you know, he's still controlled by the Jews. I mean, do you know how much Jewish funding he's cut off? I mean, Jewish Family Services of San Diego had to shut down and fire a whole bunch of people because they're not getting their USAID anymore. They're not getting their money to operate. And basically, you know, Jewish Family Services, when, you know, people talked a lot about Springfield, Ohio, but there was that town in Pennsylvania, Charleroy. Yeah, Charleroy.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Even Chris Rufo wrote an article. basically saying that who was bringing the Haitians in? It was Jewish Family Services. Who was coming in there every week to make sure they were service? It was Jewish Family Services. I'm not excusing the Catholic charities that have been doing this or the Lutheran charities that have been doing this. The reason I'm bringing up Jewish Family Services is
Starting point is 01:21:52 because everyone is saying, well, Trump's controlled by the Jews. Well, Jews have taken a fucking hit lately. because USAID is their, it is one of the ways that they get their money is what, I mean, who's in charge? Samantha Power was their ambassador. Victoria Newland was their ambassador. And people can say, oh, well, you know, he's, well, they have to be getting it somehow. He's, he's getting it to them. Well, you don't have any, you don't have any proof of that.
Starting point is 01:22:20 So, I mean, you're just, that's just, you're, like I've been saying a lot lately, some people just are not mature enough to be able to, handle the knowledge of the JQ. It seems like they're with, even with the Jewish influence that is still there, they're taking L's all over the place. And to deny that, I mean, you're just ideologically possessed and you just can't see past, you know, you can't see past your head. And the people who, out of those three groups, Pete, is there one group that won't and always refuses to share power with anybody else?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Yeah, it's a juice. So they're the ones they're going to take else. So the, and here's something else I want to say about J.D. Vance. Because I know, and I'm close to people who hate J.D. Vance. And, oh, J.D. Vance, when he was in college, he went to parties and he dressed in drag. Anybody, anybody out there went to parties in college where they dressed in drag because that was what they had to do.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Yeah, okay. He had a, he had a, he had a truned friend. Show me, show me what J.D. has done. Point out something that J.D. has done
Starting point is 01:23:38 that you think is like incredibly subversive since he became a Catholic. That's all I'm asking. Show me something. Oh, well, he's still friends with Peter Thiel. You have to have connections. This is fucking realpolitik.
Starting point is 01:23:53 And anybody doesn't know, that they don't, yeah, sorry. Yeah, you hit my trigger button. Yeah, go ahead. Then you need to go. You need to talk. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:05 So first off, all of you faggots will sit there and tell me how J.D. Vance's conversion isn't real. But then go tell me why some E-girl fucking thought is. What the fuck is wrong with you? Like some fucking porn star 10 minutes ago, that's a trad-cath fucking influencer now or whatever, I have to believe this cunt, but the guy who's the vice president who talks to our guys. Don't forget he's married to an Indian too. So that's, oh, God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. Oh, no. He is married to an Indian. How many of you fucking people are. Are married? Is it like age? Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Hold on. Hold on. What is the funniest, like, common trope in our thing? Find me a white supremacist and I'll find you as Asian wife. Right, right, right. You guys are fucking hypocrites. Yeah. You really are.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Right. So, like, if... And people call me, people call me, Brown, and I have the white, I have the whitest wife. For real, for real. The, God, oh, my God. All of it. They pick and choose their purity spirals.
Starting point is 01:25:23 If you notice, all the purity spirals, all the purity spirals, all right? Always happen to fall on the thing that requires them to, you know, not have any hope of things getting better. Which is so crazy to me. Things don't get better. No, it's not crazy at all. Right. It's all those self-destro-you all know a million self-destructive people that when things
Starting point is 01:25:43 are going good in their life, they get fucking freaked out and they'll just, they'll literally just self-destruct. These are those people. Because if things are going better, that means the impediments to our guys are being removed. If the impediments to our guys are being removed, then you don't get to be a, you don't get to be loser anymore because before it was okay for you to be a fucking loser well the regime oh zog is doing it took all like all the jobs are gone like if things get better then you have to get off your ass or you're a loser it's not somebody else's fault anymore exactly exactly all right all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:26:25 you're now responsible for yourself and it's nobody else's fault and if things are going to get better that means you better start getting better too because you're out of excuses and all of these people will talk tough online all right that's fine i can't stop you from doing that but if you're going to keep being a loser you're just going to look more and more and more like a loser as this progresses are literally looking for reasons to black pill because you're scared of getting your shit together and having the responsibility of whether or not you're a success as a man, whether you can provide as a man,
Starting point is 01:27:16 then I don't think you're right-wing at all. I just think you like saying mean things on the internet. And that's fine. Just identify as that. Don't get near my thing. Don't get near Pete's thing. Don't get near Astral's thing. The old glory club is not, the old glory club, there's no one in the old glory club making excuses.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Not a single one. I've never seen anybody from the old, the OGC black pill ever. Never not once. I mean, I urge somebody to find me somebody blackpilling from the OGC. You won't. And if you find one person, that's the exception that proves the rule. 100%. I see a bunch of guys really, really hopeful about things getting better.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I see a whole bunch of guys getting together and building things. And not hopeful because Trump is here to save us. It's because we know we have to do it ourselves. And if we support Trump, we support the good things that Trump does. Things that we see that opens a door for us. And if people want to complain, oh, you block people who black pill. Yeah, fuck you. You do not, you do not deserve access to me.
Starting point is 01:28:35 You do not have, I'm not obligated to give you access to me. Sorry. You know, how many people have tried to join the old glory club when we said no? Well, you know, we put it out there. If you want to join, you know, contact a local chapter, contact us. We'll say people have been turned away. Why? Because Sparge's on the internet.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Yeah. Sorry. Stop Spurging. Stop, you know, here, I'll even put a boomer thing out there for you. Stop allowing perfect to be the enemy of the good. That's the fundamental statement that says it all right there. That says it all right there. I don't have any ideologies. I don't.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Like, yeah. I like that. I like fascism a lot. But the second that that became harmful or counterproductive to the people I care about, I won't be anymore. Because I don't really give a shit. I give a shit about people. All of these people have ID.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Everybody that's letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. All right. If I gave your mom $100,000, are you going to bitch at me that it's not a man? million? Is that what you're going to do? Oh, well, a fucking million would be better. Yeah, it would. Well, but now I, that's, doesn't have to worry about bills for a little bit. And that's good. That's how I look at the, and if you're counter signaling, you're a faggot. That's how I look at the deportation numbers. I'm fucking glad people are being deported every day. And all I see are people
Starting point is 01:30:28 complaining that it's not enough. I'm like, yeah, I want it to be more too, but this is fucking great. How many are self-deporting? What are remittance? Yeah, exactly. What are remittance? There's that too, yep. You can't track down 40 million people in a month, you faggots. You're being deliberate in your obtuseness. You are trying very hard to not understand something. So what are you really doing then? Like, I don't think Donald Trump is the answer to any of my prayers.
Starting point is 01:31:02 He is a boot off of the neck of my friends. And if the boot is off their neck, they can organize. The more they organize, the more they can build. And I can have the things that I want happen. But Stormy, he had, he had an executive order about anti-Semitism. Oh, my God, no. He's trying to wind me up.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Yeah. Oh, God. I don't even know where to start with that anti-Semitism bill. or the anti-Semitism executive order? Can somebody find me the fines or anything that are, or the penalties? No, it was establishing a task force about anti-Semitism. Like, people don't understand how the government works, right? It's a lot like how the military works, right?
Starting point is 01:32:07 What do they call them? What do they call, like, the district? do nothing fucking jobs? Like, I can't remember. Pogs? People other than grids. Yeah, there's like that, but then there's like the, like you just get tasked up to do fucking nothing that doesn't matter,
Starting point is 01:32:24 but the most make work. Make work jobs. Because now, right now, the committee for anti-Semitism that he put together is absolutely making the best fire meme material I've ever seen on the house floor right now, and I hope that they do it for forever. I mean, but back to the point about Trump, though, I don't own a Trump shirt. I don't own a MAGA shirt. But I have to call balls and strikes because this is way bigger than Trump.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Trump didn't get himself into office. They didn't even fucking come close to that. Before, there was one power faction. And that power faction viewed me, Pete, Astral, and everybody we care about as enemies. that needed to be destroyed, whose families needed to be destroyed, right, whose prospects in life, whose financial capabilities needed to be destroyed, the things that they liked, the culture that they valued, the history they cherished, all of that needed to be destroyed. And now there's three power factions. So that means that that power faction either has done
Starting point is 01:33:40 already or will do eventually, just for it to achieve an equilibrium, that power faction needs to lose 60% of its power, 66%. So de facto, if you acknowledge, sorry regime guys, sorry global American empire guys, sorry Eurobrose. I love you to death, but you're getting, you're straining the last bit of Euro love I have. There's meant, like if you do not realize that there is more than one power. perfection at this point, you are unfit to talk about politics and you're steering our guys in the wrong direction. So you either are too stupid to be talking or you are too prideful to admit that you were wrong. And both of that is bad leadership, right? If people listen to your opinions, you're a leader, whether you want to be or not. If you say opinions and you say,
Starting point is 01:34:51 I think this and people listen, then you have a responsibility to those people. So if you are putting pride in front of that, then you're not fit to be giving an opinion because you value yourself and your pride more than the people that listen to you. So same thing with Peter Thiel. I've noticed that Peter Thiel is the Jews for the Jews. If you notice, like, he gets everything that is, everything, one Zionist fashion pretending to be right wing, fucking blonde hair, blue-eyed guys. Everything that this group of interiors, loper, pretender people hate is all funded by Peter Thiel. And then there's like the other guys that are basically leftist but racist. Everything that they don't like is the opposite of everything that those
Starting point is 01:35:58 other guys don't like. And they're saying everything that they don't like is funded by Peter Thiel. One of these people has to be wrong or both are wrong. Who is Renee Gerrari? Is René Gerard or right-winger? Is he a sincere Christian? Definitely. Definitely. Well, René Girard only picked one guy out of his entire academic careers to be the PhD mentor for.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Who was that? That's Peter Thiel. And who did young Peter Thiel go clerk for? He initially did law. Who did he clerk? clerk for. One Anton Scalia. Pete, you are Catholic. Who is Anton Scalia? I mean, the Supreme Court Justice who is, you know, probably, I guess the argument is Clarence Thomas or answered in Scalia, but it's definitely, the way I look at it is, Scalia is the one who who puts it out
Starting point is 01:37:23 there and leads, and then Clarence Thomas just runs with it. Scullya doesn't like to talk, doesn't like to be in the public. But he's the one who basically was the Supreme Court was the only thing that saved our bacon the whole time that allowed us to keep going when this regime, this this fucking New Dealer, Duremberg regime was in power. Scalia and those guys were the only ones who were protecting anything that we, you know, we, hold dear that we needed to move forward. People don't understand how much the Obama administration's venom was stopped by the Supreme Court. People need to go back and check that out.
Starting point is 01:38:14 And what happened to Anton Scalia? I mean, Anton Scalia, you could probably, I mean, it would be very hard to make an argument against Anton Scalia being a significant factor in Peter Thiel's life. and mentor. Didn't have much of a father figure. And Anton Scalia was murdered. Because Donald Trump wasn't supposed to win 2016, Hillary Clinton was.
Starting point is 01:38:46 And this time, after two Obama administrations, they were not going to leave this up to chance anymore. After eight years of getting beat down, or the best laid plans getting unwound in the Supreme Court, you are going to make sure that there is. There's a Supreme Court vacancy right before the election that you know you're going to win. And Anton Scalia was murdered. And how would you feel? So basically the two biggest Catholic forces in America in the last 50 years.
Starting point is 01:39:22 One is the thought leadership of René Gerard. And the other is Anton Scalia. And they both think that this guy is a person that they want to co-sign and vouch for. if anybody wants to know who Peter Thiel is and anybody that has a really good idea of who your enemy is right for all of the what's his name Chuck Schumer's for all of the the cartoonish freaks that you see right the ones that literally look like cartoons or memes that we share right the ones that are just over the top then there's Eric Schmidt. I'm not scared of guys like Chuck Schumer. I'm scared of guys like Eric Schmidt.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Eric Schmidt is in, that's a whole episode in itself. Eric Schmidt is a very, very bad man. And he's kind of the, the hidden hand or the, like the hand behind almost everything you see out of the DNC. It's not George Soros. It's Eric Schmidt. Especially in some of the stuff that comes out of the I see. and everybody needs to go watch. It's like 13 years old or 10 years old. I can't remember which or 9 years old.
Starting point is 01:40:56 I can't fucking remember. Just type into YouTube. It's still up. Type in Eric Schmidt or Peter Theo Eric Schmidt. It'll be the first thing that comes up. It was a charity event. It was like a fucking a thing at a museum. It was supposed to be like a panel.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Right. The two of these guys on a panel getting asked different questions by like the fucking quarter million dollar a plate fucking guests. And Peter Thiel decided to choose violence that day and turned that into not a debate, but a fucking beatdown.
Starting point is 01:41:30 And the words that he uses to describe Eric Schmidt to his face are very interesting words. He doesn't call him the synagogue of Satan, but he calls him the fucking antichrist to his face. He tries to tell him that he's trying to build the tower of Babel
Starting point is 01:41:52 and trying to bring about the Book of Rebell. And trying to bring about the book of revelation to his face. So that's Peter Thiel. Like actually for everybody that tries to blame something on Peter Thiel, please do your fucking research about who the guy is. Again, like these fucking people just don't know anything. Well, this brings up something that I want to talk about. Maybe take us out on this topic here. Because I've been looking at all this and I've been hesitating to see how much influence Israel and their factions have. You know, there are some people who I respect in certain ways. You know,
Starting point is 01:42:32 where was Donald Trump's first offshore visit? Because pretty much every president in my lifetime, their first international trip was to wear. We talked about this. I forgot, though. It was, he went to Europe. Yeah, he went to Europe this time. He didn't go to Israel.
Starting point is 01:42:49 He hasn't been to Israel. Not once. He's made BB come to him. Do you know, twice? Here's just a sidebar. and not to just not to derail. Do you know where Javier Malay's first visit was after he got elected president?
Starting point is 01:43:09 Yep. Israel. No, wait, no, no, no, no. To New York. We talked about the, Stormy. Yeah, yeah. Habod headquarters in New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:18 I still have bookmarked to the necromancy ceremony that him and the, the rabbis did at the Shabbat temple. I'm glad you brought up Milai because I was going to juxtapose him. him. Mele, people who want to say Musk, Teal, and Trump are controlled by the Jews in scare quotes. I don't buy it. And here's what I want to say.
Starting point is 01:43:41 And I want to ask a question here. Musk owns Twitter because of the Saudis. He tells you in that interview. He owns 30 some odd percent. If I own BlackRock, got all of these companies to put fucking trannies on all their commercials, and they own less than 8%.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Even together with Vanguard and state street, right? They own maybe 15% of any of these big public companies you've seen absolutely destroy their brands. And a Saudi is the one that owns 30 some odd percent. And that means he has provided the credit for the other 60% he doesn't own. But Elon Musk is pulled by the Jews though, right? Right, exactly. And Malay is an example of somebody who clearly, obviously is, right? He just had that whole crypto scam. him. He's completely, yeah, he just did a, he just participated in a rugpole openly. Best, best meme I saw was had him with the Argentinian sash on it, and someone had removed his head and put SBF's head on it.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Yeah, good. So that's, that's what a guy who's controlled by that. He literally is a spiritual. But we know, we know how their control works. We know how their influence works. It's the Israel lobby. it's the blackmail schemes. It's the voting block that they come out. It's APEC. It's all that. It's the ADL.
Starting point is 01:45:12 That's how they exert their control. And they get these people by the balls and there's nothing they can do. So they bring out of just money, Astro. It's just money. That's my question. For the longest time, who has run politics? Our media has run politics. what does APEC do
Starting point is 01:45:35 what do all these donors what do all these Jewish donors do how do they control our politics right they control it with money it's not just money it's also voting blocks and black mail and blackmail but where is like the I mean what would you say the largest money is like Miriam Aidosim yeah 100%.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Well what is what is the one what is the one thing that what does money buy money buys ads And buys media. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, buys media. Media nobody fucking watches anymore. Media nobody fucking watches. If money, if campaign donations ran politics like it used to in every other election right now, Donald Trump should have lost. Because he raised like $700 million and Kamala Harris raised $2 billion. Right. Donations don't equal elections anymore.
Starting point is 01:46:34 you can't buy votes directly anymore you have to do things for people Donald Trump actually does things for people or at least he is perceived to do so right like we're past the money part of politics we're into the patronage part of politics now right and all this is the thing about like all the billionaires Elon Musk right has got a real fondness those two like each other but even before that What did you see at his inauguration? You saw every single fucking tech billionaire come to him because Donald Trump has something that no one's had before.
Starting point is 01:47:16 He has votes that are loyal to him and not money. Advertisements didn't tell people to vote for Trump. Money doesn't matter to Trump. I mean, it does, but not electorally. Donald Trump didn't like fucking Fox News didn't even have that dude on from 2020 to 24 Fox News there's a find me one interview of Donald Trump the fucking Republican presidential candidate didn't get a fucking interview on Fox News but got an interview on Joe Rogan right like money doesn't equal politics anymore now it's doesn't matter how much money A-PAC throws at a candidate versus another candidate. That Republican does not get elected until Donald Trump comes down off of his throne and tells his voters to vote for this guy, right? Not the Republican Party, not the donors, not A-PAC.
Starting point is 01:48:23 All right. 70% of the fucking electorate now, they vote for the person Donald Trump endorses. That makes Donald Trump more powerful. then money. So let me ask the question then. What leverage do the Jews, in quotes, have over Trump, teal, and Musk?
Starting point is 01:48:50 Because you can point to the leverage they have over Millay and over Clinton and over George W. Bush. What leverage do they have over these guys? You can't be controlled by them if they don't have a mechanism to control you with. Elon must told the ADL to go fuck themselves And that's what everybody says when I ask this question
Starting point is 01:49:11 They say Jared Kushner I'm like oh you you really think that's enough What did Trump say before he even announced he was running If there's any future Trump administration Jared Kushner will not be a part of that He wasn't even asked that question He just came out and said it So what leverage do they have over these guys? I don't see any
Starting point is 01:49:32 Because Benjamin Netanyahu fucked over Donald Trump Benjamin Netanyahu spent When he would come to the U.S., he didn't stay where he was supposed to stay where the leader stayed. He stayed at the fucking Kushner House since Jared was eight. Jared Kushner is a Lakud proxy.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Yeah. I know. But that's what all the naysayers point to and say, oh, you know, Trump's a Lakud operative. And Trump's part of the Lakud. You know, he's their podcast. It's like that shit with the Catholic conversion or some picture from J.D. Vance 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Let me go into your political history. Let me go to your Facebook, right, where you actually post pictures of yourself doing all the dumb shit you do. Let me go back 10 years and see what I find. Well, it's nothing. I mean that. Anything that you used to believe. That video is nothing compared to like real blackmail they've had on people, other people in the past. Exactly. But just period. Like who believes anything that they believed 10 years ago? Well, that too, yeah. Only boomers do that. Well, this is more than 10 years ago. It was like 20 years ago, 15.
Starting point is 01:50:44 I know, but just all these people's opinions. They say, like, oh, well, this is a picture of XYZ person saying this five years ago, eight years ago. Like, I don't have the same opinions or beliefs that I had 10 years ago. Well, this whole thing about resettling the Palestinians and turning Gaza into like a real estate development boomtown. this has been around in the air. People have been talking about this. So I think probably what Trump is doing is like dangling the carrot in front of the Zionists and saying, like, oh, he's going to force the Arab states. He's going to force the Arab states to fix their own problem for the first time in history.
Starting point is 01:51:30 How are they going to fix it, though? Get Hamas under control. What's happening right now? They don't want the refugee. We know that. Yep. Pete, do you want to jump in here? About the...
Starting point is 01:51:48 Even though we just covered this, we're going to recircle back around to it. Do you think the Arab states do want the Palestinian? What do you think the Arab states are going to do? No, every time the Arab states have accepted Palestinians into their country, the Palestinians immediately become subversive
Starting point is 01:52:08 and start, you know, seeking to overthrow and, I mean... And go to war with Israel. Yeah. But... Yeah, that's what they did in Lebanon. They tried to coup the government in like the 80s. They tried to coup the government to go to war with Israel.
Starting point is 01:52:24 No, some other thing is going to happen. I don't know what it is. You know, the only, and it's going to end up with the Palestinians staying where they are. I just don't know how this, I don't know that you can change them. You can't change them. So I don't know what this becomes. I mean, I know what's, I have an idea what's going to happen. I just don't know what it becomes.
Starting point is 01:52:53 It's too, there's too many variables in charge, too many variables there, especially when it comes to humans, and especially when it comes to humans who are, you know, ideologically possessed to hate another group and want to kill another group. So, I'm going to put this hypothetical. Go on? Sure. Good. No, you do it. Okay. So if Trump knows that the U.S. boots on the ground has a less than 8% favorability rating and would be a betrayal of everything he ran on, and nobody here thinks that Donald Trump is going to put boots on the ground unless you're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:32 We don't talk shit about individual people and commentators on this show. Just you know the people. You know them. Outside of them, nobody fucking believes that. Okay. Well, what happened since the ceasefire? Where did all those Palestinians from the West Bank go? They went back to Gaza, didn't they?
Starting point is 01:53:54 Yep. And they took their guns with them, didn't they? I remember seeing all the neocons freaking out about it. Like, there's a little video of them just marching back with their AKs, Hamas, fucking waving their flag, not giving a shit. They also had brand, they also had brand new uniforms. Did they really? Their uniforms are crisp and brand new.
Starting point is 01:54:17 That's why I mean. thought they were IDF IDF disguised as Hamas. Wow. Still not unconvinced. And they had, um, they had tactical AKs. They had AKs that had like rails, rail systems.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Yep. That's, that's not what Hamas. I've never seen that before. Yeah. But that's, but you know who does have that? Hezbollah.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Hmm. It's the AKs of rail systems. Yeah. I, you know, you know, you know, circle of about that offline. I did not know that. That's pretty that that I want to see pictures of that.
Starting point is 01:54:57 But basically the Hamas population in Gaza just tripled, right? Half of Israel is Palestinian. The other half of Israel is like what 14, 12 million people in Israel. Half of that is being undercounted. The other half is being overcounted. Let's just go off their numbers. That means there's roughly about six million Jews in Israel. All right. Let's cut that in half for men and women. Sounds kind of high. Hi.
Starting point is 01:55:33 What is, could somebody pull the population of Jews and Israel? Six million. You said six million. Oh, shit. Sorry. Yeah, that's an entirely fictitious number. Just like the math doesn't work out. You can't generate that many Israelis in that short amount of time.
Starting point is 01:55:51 The crematorium is just talking. Don't run that fast. So that means three million Israelis better men, and we'll say half of those are fighting age. There's like eight millions, what I got? Eight million? Let's take a total population or a Jewish population? No, eight million total Jews.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Okay. So four million men. We'll divide that in half again by how many can fight. what is that two and a half maybe but half of those motherfuckers won't join the IDF half of them have left since october seventh bingo but the population of gaza just tripled so if u.s boots don't go in there because Saudi Arabia doesn't have a fucking army turns out they got a bunch of U.S. arms literally in Ziploc bags because Saudi Arabia's defense strategy is America comes and unzips the plastic bags. No joke, you can go find pictures
Starting point is 01:57:01 of it. It's a bunch of Apaches and Ziploc bags. It's fucking crazy. That's their strategy. So if U.S. boots aren't going to do it, then who's going to make these Palestinians leave? Is it going to be Hezbollah? Is it going to be Egypt? Who's going to make them leave? Oh, it would, yeah, none of that would happen without another all-out war. That means war. Yeah, but who? They really want to do that, that it would be a war. Yeah, it'd have to be us.
Starting point is 01:57:30 And we're not going to, it's not going to happen. Yeah, but we're not going to do it. Okay. It's not going to happen. So if we're not going to do it and there is an all-out war and the U.S. is not going to participate, then what is stopping that? Somebody please tell me what's stopping them, all of the Arab states just jumping in this time, for real? If the U.S. isn't going to be there, who's going to make them leave?
Starting point is 01:57:52 No one, right? Half of the fucking, forget the, fuck, I completely forgot about the half that fled the day after October 7th. I completely forgot about that. And, let's say the half that are there. Yeah. Half of the fucking Jews don't even join the IDF. They're in that weird religious thing with the,
Starting point is 01:58:14 they have their own little militias that won't leave Israel. The only people, those people should have, they're Jews. And the settler armies consider the IDF to be pussies. Yeah, I was going to say that. We're talking West Bank here. So how do you get these motherfuckers to leave Gaza? Are we going to bomb them from the Red Sea? How'd that go?
Starting point is 01:58:41 How did it go in Yemen? We can't even make the Houthis stop shooting at us. We're going to bomb Gaza from the ocean. Like, the only reason that Israel was bombing Gaza at all is because of the U.S.'s explicit guarantee that if any other nation jumped in, that we would attack that nation. But Anthony Blinken, the Israeli citizen,
Starting point is 01:59:09 isn't Secretary of State anymore. The fucking brain-dead black guy who was gone almost the entire time, yeah, he's not Secretary of Defense no more. So if Donald Trump won't put boots on the ground, who is going to make them leave? That's the key to the whole thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:32 the Palestinians aren't going to go anywhere. Because it doesn't matter what the outside states agree to. It doesn't matter. A, Astro, Pete and I just had a conference in Saudi Arabia. You got to get out of your house now. Okay. Sure. Like, that's why I don't understand this.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Like, everybody is looking for reasons to blackmail. Oh, well, Donald Trump's going to put a Trump tower. Well, he's not going to put the army in there. So how's that tower going to get built? The Gaza's going to be like, yeah, we want a tower. I want a Trump Tower. And, dude, you know, who's going to fucking go there to go to the casinos and vacation? It's going to be like nothing but terrorist bombings the whole time.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Nobody's going to do that. Yeah, dude. Why does Russia not want all of Ukraine? Oh, because if they get the other side where there aren't any ethnic Russians, there's just going to be terrorist attacks all day. Yeah. It's a bunch of bullshit that they want to. Israel doesn't want a ceasefire. Israel doesn't want its hostages.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Israel just wants the Ghazans to leave. The U.S. aren't going to put any boots on the ground, and all the other states around it want Israel to not exist. And the Palestinians, they don't want to leave. People can only see this shit as two parties. They can only see BB Netanyahu and Donald Trump, and they hate both those people. And they think that the only decision makers are those two people.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Like, I'm the fuck on. man. Well, I agree. You know, I didn't know about all of these people. Also, it wasn't just Zelensky. It wasn't just Zelensky, by the way, that wasn't invited. I found this out. The EU wasn't invited either. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:27 I'm glad you threw that out there. It's for the listen. It's a very active kitty night. Both my aunt Pete's cats are trying to get in on the show here. I don't know if you're some... Yeah, Lucy's just, man. My cat's been going back and forth. Oh, yours too? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Mine usually just sleeps on the bed the whole. time and he wants to be on the show this time. Bro. The thing that I don't get, what I don't, what I don't know is why, this is the thing that I don't think, I haven't heard anybody else talk about. Why is Europe trying to start World War III? Yes, please. I wanted to get to that and I forgot to bring it up earlier. So they're scrambling because they're being left out.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Well, why are they scrambling? What are they worried about? Are they worried about Russia invading Europe? Like, why are they freaking out? They're having their own summit. There's something coming from you. They're getting something from Ukraine because of the war that they need to keep going. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:02:31 They need the collateral. You guys just told me all of the trillions of dollars that is underneath that fucking Ukrainian land. and if you know anything about oil companies guys oil companies aren't valued by how much oil they pump they are valued by how much oil lives under the ground that they could pump if they so wished right so there's three things in the world that are acceptable for collateral on debt right basically you could pop it in a bank and then you know borrow against or lend it out a million times or whatever.
Starting point is 02:03:16 All right. It's called money good collateral. There is gold. There is treasury bonds. And then there is oil and that gas. Those are the only things that are collateral to create trillions of derivatives off of. Or to backstop the trillions of derivatives. you've already printed, you've already created.
Starting point is 02:03:47 They need Ukraine for something, and they don't just need Ukraine for something. It's not just Ukraine. They need war with Russia for something. This is just like COVID. If you knew you were going to have a sovereign debt to fall, if you knew your currency was going to collapse, there's another thing that's happening right now, too, on the Bank of England and gold. for some reason
Starting point is 02:04:14 the Bank of England is having a little bit of a crisis because it turns out that people want their gold out of the Bank of England deposited right a lot of people have the certificates right like you are holding one ounce of my gold but they're finding out that there's roughly
Starting point is 02:04:36 200 certificates for every ounce of gold and there's about a billion ounces in there, I believe. 800 million is already spoken for. And all of it is moving to the U.S. as fast as it can go. So somebody thinks, and not somebody, I mean pretty much every fucking central bank thinks that England is about to have a double. fault, as in like, they want their money out of England ASAP, which means they must be worried
Starting point is 02:05:17 about something real bad. Same thing with Europe. So if I knew that I was about to run out of money, I would want two things to happen. I would either want some crazy external factor that I could use to cram down a ridiculous amount of social control. or I would want a war because that's the only way I'm staying in power. If I don't get one of those things, I'm out. You're going to end up swinging from lampposts.
Starting point is 02:06:01 It's not just that they want Ukraine, it's that they want war with Russia. I don't know why that is, but every single fucking Anon has told me that Europe is a vassal state and all the problems with Europe are actually just America's fault. and America is making them do this horrible shit to themselves.
Starting point is 02:06:22 And if Trump is trying to stop... Yeah, I mean, like, how come these vassals are going rogue? Why are the vassals not listening to us? I mean, just all of it. The only reason that we're right is because everybody has all these preconceived ideas and they refuse to change them when new information presents itself. America has to be the bad guy because if it's not the bad guy, that means that the problem in my European country
Starting point is 02:06:56 is with the European country government that I have the ability it's not some external foreign fucking guy that I can't do anything about it's I can run people for office and I can fix this this government if the problem is here then I can do something about it I don't want to do anything about it I don't know the answer to this I haven't
Starting point is 02:07:21 formulated opinion about it in fact I only started thinking about it the last two days. The whole thing with Nord Stream and natural gas from Russia, they were supplying Germany. And it's all cut off now and they're looking for other sources. What does that have to do?
Starting point is 02:07:40 No, of course, but now they're looking to back AFD. Does it look like AFD is going to get in? Would AFD realign with Russia and start buying natural gas from Russia again?
Starting point is 02:07:56 Yes. Yeah. But this is how the EU breaks up. Yeah, this is the only thing that the only thing that saves Europe is Germany and Germany and Russia together again. Yep. And I, and aren't they going to get back together if AFD gets in? That's where I'm asking.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Yeah, but yeah, but so what happened? What happened with Romania? Romania elected. Well, and Vance talked about that. Yeah. As in like the, because the bureaucrats, the European commissioners, the people that actually yanked that election. aren't elected, they're appointed, right? And it's those same appointed bureaucrats that have already
Starting point is 02:08:34 said publicly, because they're so stupid, they can't keep their fucking mouth shut. The same guy that jumped the gun and wrote a letter from the EU saying that he's going to censor in jail, Mr. Musk, if he interviews Donald Trump, that same fucking idiot, right? Said on TV that if AFD wins, that Brussels has, I can't remember how you put it, like levers or tools to stop that from happening. So, AFD is going to win. And the EU bureaucrats are going to try and cancel the fucking election. I guarantee it. Unless somebody handles the bureaucrats between now and the German election, the Europeans,
Starting point is 02:09:17 because if we saw any indication that they're trying, that they're going to chill and fall in line, we are not seeing it. So I think that's what's going to happen. And then you're going to have like a legitimacy crisis for the entire EU. And that's going to break if that happens. And at the same time, NATO is falling apart because part of what, yeah. And why does NATO say like if you just go back a year or just go back before the election, every head of NATO says that the greatest threat to NATO and the greatest threat to Europe isn't
Starting point is 02:09:55 Vladimir Putin. It's Donald Trump. Why is NATO saying that the greatest threat? Google that. It's one article after another. The greatest threat to NATO is Donald Trump. One article after another. The greatest threat to Europe is Donald Trump.
Starting point is 02:10:10 The UK is Donald Trump. The head of MI6 is coming out and saying the greatest threat to British national security is Donald Trump. But not, dude. That's just a gigantic Jewish sci-op because they own the newspapers and everything. All those articles are just one big Jewish siop. yeah fucking council and foreign relations that big jewish sigh up all right well yeah we started late tonight we could take a couple more victory laps so we can call it tonight
Starting point is 02:10:40 yeah i think i think this we gotta call it tonight i'm about i'm about ready to pass out yeah it's the hard i think pete's officially the hardest working guy in podcasting at this point for real man yeah i did an hour and a half i did an hour and a half with tim kelly before for our interesting times before I jumped on here. When's that going to drop? He usually drops it the next day, so we'll see. It's 1201. I need a podcast to listen to as I go to bed.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Let's see if Tim does that. Tim, if you're listening, DM me and give me an early release. Shout out to the Inquisition listeners. You guys are the fucking best. great feedback from the show people love it and people listen to the end man i'll get comments a couple hours after we go live about stuff we talked about right at the end so um you know if i start to annoy people by saying this too often tell me i'll shut the fuck up about it but if uh if you if you get to the end of this episode and you're left wanting more now's the time if you haven't done it to jump right
Starting point is 02:11:49 into the three part series between pete and thomas on syria because that is fundamental to understanding everything in the Middle East right now. Yep. And also if you want to know Donald Trump and how he is engaging with the Israelis and the Saudis. Pete, your episode with hedge fund manager, it's Rob or Ron Dodson? I can't remember which.
Starting point is 02:12:21 It was Ron Dodson. I felt bad because the guy, you know, cited me and something I said and I can't remember. So it's Ron Dodson? guys extremely, extremely smart. Yeah, Ron Dodson. Sorry, I was muted. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:34 I don't think you're going to get better analysis than that. I think he's exactly right. And that will make you look at Donald Trump's actions the opposite way than how, like, the fucking Anonosphere and five-minute freakout cycle looks at it. All right. From a business perspective, you need to look at it from a business perspective. And a lot of Anans, like, they've never, they've never had. like a fucking job or they've never like, you know, worked at these type of levels or in finance or like people act differently in the world that I inhabit. It's the same world that Ron inhabits
Starting point is 02:13:14 and it's the same world that Donald Trump is used to, right? Just deals are done differently. Nobody comes out and says exactly what they fucking believe or how they feel about everybody else or whether I hate you or I don't hate you. It's not how fucking business people operate, man. But yeah, check that episode out in the Syria series. And yeah,
Starting point is 02:13:43 our show notes are probably going to be filled with a bunch of Pete episodes as usual. And as usual is right, because that's pretty much what the show notes are. And I just hope anybody know this. We should just call this the Pete Quinona show recap show. I'm honored that you guys
Starting point is 02:13:59 do it on my platform. I mean, It's a big fucking deal to me. So I really appreciate it. And, uh, you know, one last thing, this is the last thing I want to say, because I got to go as much as anybody else does. I do want to say it. The N-word. You can stroke your obligation.
Starting point is 02:14:13 It's why it be different for the peers. We've got to find you. I'm not a paranoid best of my.

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