The Pete Quiñones Show - Live with RealThomas777 - 04/16/26
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Hey, thanks for, thanks for doing this.
Of course, of course.
How's your week going?
Doing good.
A lot of time outside this morning.
Starting to get hot today.
So, yeah, I'm going to stay at the house for the rest of the day.
you working in the garden
we had some people here this morning
doing some work around the house
so um
some contractors and everything so
mostly out there pointing and stuff
yeah
I found this
I found this video from
2000
2000 sort of interesting
like that entire year I mean
because the 90s had sort of ended
but not really and it was pre 9-11
and shit was still pretty low tech.
I had a cell phone then,
but even in Chicago,
probably only about
a third of people bid.
I had one of them
Nokia,
like bricks,
you know,
it was pretty much like the one,
you ever went Riddick Boe
for it,
Andrew Galada,
and Galada being the,
the,
the cheating Polack that he was.
He got done bashing Bo and the nuts.
Well,
Bo's corner man hopped in
and he had one of the big old Nokia
that he started like whacking Galada in the dome
with it
which with one of those things
I mean you whack someone in the head with a smartphone
it'll just like break
but one of those Nokia's could do real damage
and he actually split
Galada's head
split his wig a little bit
but in any event
I was
there's this nostalgia
channel on YouTube
it's obviously a bunch of Asian people,
but they solicit videos from all over.
And this one Englishman who's a prolific YouTuber,
he uploaded his video of his flight on the Concord.
Oh, hi Kitty.
We're a big fan of cats here.
And I was always fascinated by the Concord as a kid.
And then, you know, I had to fly a lot as a little kid with my folks.
which I had mixed feelings about
because I don't like flying.
And I was thinking about the fuck story
that was my flight back from Fayetteville
and just kind of all that.
But you know,
the Concord never flew out of O'Hare
because there was this
nationwide movement
to ban it for no reason.
And James Burnham, to his credit,
undertook a major effort to reverse that,
but, I mean, to no avail.
But first they claimed
the Concord was
deteriorating the ozone layer.
So then there was testimony
for Congress, well, that doesn't make any sense.
Then it was, well, it's releasing
toxic emissions. Then now's refuted.
Then it was, well,
the sonic boom is noise pollution.
So ultimately,
British airwaves
and some
conglomerative investors,
they took it to the Supreme Court
and they pointed out, they're like,
look, Air Force One is a louder profile than the Concord,
and there's never been a single organized complaint about that.
What is this about, really?
So Concord could fly out of New York on a dedicated route,
and it could fly out of Dulles.
And interestingly, the Concord, because, you know,
the reason it was the Concord is because it was a Concord app
between British Airways and Air France and all it is,
but some of the subs might not.
the government in Paris
at the time
they were pursuing
a Willie Brandt
type policy
towards the East block
still even after
you know
Willie Brandt went down
in disgrace
and the Thatcher government
had
wanted no part of that
but
so there was dedicated
Concord
what they called
friendship flights
into East Berlin
but
you know
the Concord
is a technological
marvel man
and it
I mean, now, because the analog cockpit, it seems very dated.
And I think it was one of the last planes in service, like passenger aircrafts in service,
that had an onboard flight engineer, but it could be wrong.
But that's what the, that's where we should be in terms of air travel.
You shouldn't be, you shouldn't be waiting for days to take a flight from Fayetteville to Chicago and then fly.
on a plane that wasn't even cutting edge 60 years ago.
You know, and I, it goes to show you, I've already this point with people because they're like, well, the Concord just wasn't, it just couldn't be profitable.
What, what fucking airline is profitable?
You know, that's like saying like, well, the railroad's not profitable.
Well, yeah, man, no shit.
An airline is just a bank.
Delta is a bank.
And a hedge.
Yeah.
The only way it works is if you do what Japan does and, you know, your economy is an entity structured around targeted state intervention.
Or you have guys like Elon Musk or Bezos or Andrew Carnegie was who say, yeah, I'm going to establish a railroad and operated a loss basically to keep the government off my back.
and so I don't get a slab with antitrust.
And when my revenues get too big to fail
in the other enterprises that, you know, my company handles,
I can operate at a loss indefinitely with my travel infrastructure
and it doesn't matter.
Like this idea that the Concord didn't work
because people weren't getting rich off investing in it.
You're a retard if you think that.
But it goes to show you that, I mean,
the rot was deep long before what people think of as the world.
old era and the and the competence crisis.
You know,
the,
it was a bunch of Luddites and weirdos and,
and half-ass,
uh,
parasites and in government who decided that they had to weed up their ass about,
about supersonic commercial travel.
I grew up literally less than three miles from Glenview Naval Air Base.
That's where a lot of nuclear bombers were based.
You know,
like I told you that,
you know,
my dad informed me when I was a kid and my,
and my mom, we had nothing to worry about
an evented nuclear war would be dead in seconds.
That's a relief.
But point being,
there was constantly
fighter aircraft screaming overhead
and it was loud,
but I don't remember
any sort of mass protest against it.
Property values consistently went up
and up and up from the time I was
like sentient until now you know because like i moved back to my hometown in 2021 you know i don't
believe that the quality of life of people on concord rights was a concord rapes was being
devastated by by sonic booms but that's um you know there's no excuse for that and really
i realized that under the cold war some of the immediate imperative
it has evaporated.
For America remaining
demonstrably on the cutting edge of
technological innovation and
the ability of consumers to access
those experiences.
But just the same, if you're
going to literally wage war
to establish a globalism in your name
and you're begging the Russians
to take your astronauts and your cargo
into orbital space
and you're
flying
passengers around
domestically
on 1960s
technology
that's pathetic
you're not
you're not
you're not the leader of the free world
if that's where you're at
you're some half-ass
failing system
USSR 2
that's masquerading as
that's
that's masquerading as
something it's not based on past
glu
But that's, you know, I mean, it probably sounds goofy because I hate flying.
Even when it worked right, it really made me upset.
But I'm sort of an aviation fag.
Nonetheless, you know.
Well, if you read, I mean, say what you want about the show, the man in the high castle,
they had that rocket plane that could get from like Berlin to New York in like two hours.
No, I, there's things about that show I liked.
that's why I appropriated that flag
I actually I had one mocked up
I think I showed it to you guys the other week
you know I had like a full on
bull's eyes flag mocked up of the American Reich
and I appropriated that iconography
for my brand
and as
four days from now on a very auspicious day
I'm going to formally announce
what I'm trying to get off the ground
in terms of my
you know, fraternal organization
because, you know, like I said,
I think we need formal representation
within the aboveboard
constellation of new resistance factions.
But I, you know, that's how I'm going to brand it.
It's a good way to ask me.
We need factions.
We need factions that are doing different things,
but communicating and cooperating.
Yes, sir.
Boy, howdy.
And I think I got a good eye for optics.
You know, I mean, I know what I do is one of the reasons why people like my merchant stuff.
But it's also good limous test because it guarantees that like it's like, it's like, it's like raid is the bugs.
Like my optics sort of fag out with like raid as the cockroaches.
They go like, only they.
And then they pee their pants or like the gerbils that are in their assholes.
like scurry out that upsets them
because that's their only romantic
or sexual contact in life
but um
no I uh
I was going somewhere with that beyond durable jokes
and stuff um
but no that was
four days from now
yeah yeah no but I mean
I'll link the Concord video I was
talking about on substand notes or something
so people can watch it
because it's really extraordinary
and um you know you could it flew at such altitude you can see the curvature the earth and
stuff it's really awesome and they had they had gourmet food on there and champagne you know and uh i
that's that's awesome too i think it caused about ten thousand dollars the five from new york
the heathrow and it got you there in about two hours and 25 minutes so i mean a and i mean
ten grand any ten needs money that was a lot of fucking money i mean they they they should
have uh they should have given you caviar and and and like serving turf and champagne and they
they like probably got of money some pretty steward is probably should have given you a happy ending but
which i'm sure happens sometimes but um even though it wasn't you know within the the uh i don't
offer remand of these but uh you know i got uh well plus two and then we can move on from this
subject but all them you know some of those luxury travel channels where you
It's usually some like limey guy or some Asian guy who's got a lot of money or at least, you know, whatever media brand he works with a lot of money.
So they'll send him to like the most expensive hotel in Dubai or something and he'll just like, you know, show you the shit that they have there.
Like on a bunch of those, there's there'll be some, there'll be some Indonesian luxury airline where you actually get like a room on the plane and some lady tucks you into bed and bullshit like that.
it's like look man like you telling me that the operating cost of that is is not comparable to the concord you know uh yet that that somehow is viable um so yeah just another example um but yeah i uh oh in other news um i'm on the institute for historical reviews um email list obviously i mean email lists are kind of quaint anymore like you're a
minds of the late 90s, but I kind of like that, that they still do shit that way, because
that's kind of the charm of IHR, but anymore, and I like Mark Weber, or Weber.
I talked to him years back. I'm talking like 20 years ago, when podcasting was kind of in its
infancy, but IHR anymore is kind of, I like what they're doing in terms of their social media
the presence.
But in terms of their
long-term content,
they're kind of getting by on past glories.
Weber's clicked up with that guy
Frody, which I think is kind of unfortunate.
And I'm not personally insulting the guy,
but that dude used to host me on his pod,
but then he decided him about bad guy
because I asked him why he's got a bunch of crazy
Ukrainian Zionists like all over his shit.
and apparently that makes me a bad person or something.
He's anti-Russian anti-Oriensilist.
I mean, he's just like a weirdo.
And it's like, so you're like Mr. IH.R revisionist, but you love Zionism.
We were on, we were, I was on a live stream with him like a panel kind of thing.
And he's like questioning me about being Catholic and being against like immigration.
He's like, oh, so you're saying Catholics have come over the border.
you'd be against them coming over the border.
I'm like, yeah, I'd fucking deport them myself
and we'd pray the rosary while I was doing it.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
He apparently thinks it's awesome for some,
apparently it's awesome for some crazy Zionist Jew to run Ukraine
and for Ukraine is to slaughter their own kind.
So he's a totally, he's a weirdo who doesn't,
like thinking isn't his strong suit.
He's really, really, really, really dumb.
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Okay.
And it's a bad luck for Weber to hang around somebody who's like really, really, really stupid.
But, uh, you know, whatever.
I think, um, like Weber, Weber's, uh, latest discussion.
with a fruity or fruit cake or whatever his fucking name is.
Yeah, Hollywood's finally admitting that the good guys in World War II were hypocrites.
I'm like, okay, Curtis LeMay and Hap Arnold said that.
You know, the guys who ordered the strategic bombing.
If you watch that movie and that's what you take away from it,
you're really simple.
you know um which move which movie is he talked or he's talking about now that one where it's it's uh it's like
russle crow for some reason it became like a big fat guy uh trying to like shame people of not being
good looking but russell crow disappeared russell core went from being this kind of like action man
uh like good looking male model type guy to being this kind of like random fat guy which i don't
really understand like don't know people like take a zempec or something for that shit but
so he's like fat guy russell crow like talking like
on Australian redneck
and like well
he's supposed to be
Herman Gehring
and like I don't understand
why according
I don't understand why Hollywood
thinks that
thinks that the Third Reich
were a bunch of
like English and Australian guys
I've never figured that out
you don't think
Blimey
Huel Hitler
but um
like it'd be like
it'd be like that show
Dalton Abbey
it was a
there was a bunch of dudes
like goose stepping around
and
you know
acting like Charlie Chaplin
and the great dictators
or something, but I...
Well, as good as good as the
miniseries Rome was
the, um,
the one that, um, what's his name did?
Um, Red Dawn Dawn guy.
Why is his name escaping?
John Millius.
Yeah, John Millius. The two seasons he did,
they're running around and using British accents and it's just like,
look, I love this show. It's great, but
British accents.
Well, the nudiest thing was, and it's a terrible movie,
I want to see in the theater with my girl.
at the time because, you know, she, uh,
she was into kind of the same stuff I was, um,
including, you know, World War II and Reich stuff.
So we went to see enemy at the gates when it opened, that old orchard theater,
like people local and North Shore, like no old orchard theater, which is still going.
I love that, I love that movie for the guns.
The weaponry is amazing.
Well, the opening scene, uh, when they're crossed in the Volga and the commissar,
it's like the kid who it follows
who's the Soviet infantrymen
who later
becomes kind of this pastiche
of Vasili Zaitsev
and some other guys
but before he realizes
his aptitude for
as a marksman
you know he's
with a fire team
they
hand him a magazine
and
they hand
one of his comrades
a bolt action rifle
and a
yeah and then he says
there's the enemy
you know
if you turn and run
will shoot you
and then sure enough
he sees some dude
like crack and run
and then they like open up on him
with some kind of belt-fed weapon
so he's like oh fuck
so then they're crossing the Volga
and these Stuccas are screaming down
and like strafing them
and it was really well done
and it
CGI from that era was shit
but the set pieces
looked good
but then they get into the movie
and inexplicably
Bob Hoskins is Nikita Khrushchev
and like Bob Hoskins
looks about as much like Nikita Khrushchev
as I look like Bob Hoskins
and um
there's a bunch of guys with like cockney accents
or supposed to be the Red Army
it's like that's fucking retarded
like it's even dumber than
having them talk
like Mr. Chekhov and kind of
pigeon English with
with cringy Russian accents.
It's like, why are the English guys?
That's, you know, but
yeah, that movie was a turkey.
But no, the movie is that
film just called Nuremberg, which I watched
and implements over like a week
when I was sick.
I literally just get bored with it. I mean, first of all,
it's judgment at Nuremberg,
which is obviously a propaganda film,
but it's far more well done.
it's like the Cliffsnodes version of Judgment at Nuremberg
with worse acting and this kind of cringy, corny exposition.
But, you know, if Weber and Fruitcake's notion is that
there's some crazy based movie because it acknowledges that
the allies were very loose and countervalue targeting
and were just as categorical in their decision to murder human beings under auspices of military necessity.
You know, again, the men who ordered the strategic bombing openly talked about that.
Bomber Harris literally collaborated with David Irving on the Dresden book.
And Hap Arnold wrote part of the introduction.
LeMay went on record saying, if we lost things,
the war I would be hanged as a war criminal.
You know, but I guess the fruitcake is like,
ooh, this excites a jubble in my asshole.
Hail Zion. I don't like Catholics.
But, uh, whatever.
So I wasn't going to talk shit about that fucking idiot.
Then here I go. Just like thinking about him annoys me.
He's got like a bunch of like LGBTQ tattoos of like Vikings and butt fucking each other and stuff.
He's an idiot. But we're going to move on from that.
I
but no
and it's um
plus the movie was kind of
I realized what they were doing too
I mean it was very calculated in
in how
uh
in the in the timing of it
and like I said it's not a thoughtful movie
it's very much the CliffsNotes' version of
judgment at Nuremberg
but it um
the uh
but it's not
it's not gonna have the desired effect
it's if you want to
if you want to
if you want to convey you something
about Jewish martyrdom and the rights
of the design is cause. He said, do
what Golan Globus did.
You know, I was talking to a friend of mine the other
day. We were talking on the pot
about that propaganda
story
about when
Flight 847 was hijacked.
You know, Hezbollah demanded the flight attendants
identified the Jewish names. But then, like,
nobody was murdered on that flight other than that one
poor Navy diver. So it's like,
So they just wanted to know, like, the Jewish people for the hell of it.
Like, where's this going?
But in any event, I mean, first of all, it didn't happen.
But in that movie, the Delta Force with Chuck Norris and Lee Marvin, you know,
it was a Goan Globus movie.
It's basically the story of Flight 847, except they said at TWA, it's ATW.
It's so on the nose.
And the Delta Force of these guys in, like, ninja suits.
And they're, they're, like, immune to bullets.
And they don't have, like, laser guns.
but it got like retarded.
Isn't that the one where he has rocket launchers on his motorcycle?
Yeah,
straight out of that movie Megaforce,
which is actually like hilariously awesome because it's so fucking stupid.
But it's like,
it's on that left.
Like we got a dune buggy with like a Vulcan cannon on it.
That apparently is like,
uh,
that,
you know,
that apparently doesn't,
uh,
cause insurmountable drag.
And yeah,
we,
we,
we launch like little tiny rockets like off of these like,
like Kawasaki
fucking crotch and some shit
but uh
but yeah there's a scene where this guy
who's like obviously like
like obviously like some
some some like Jewish guy from Brooklyn
who's like putting on like a really badder
of accent he's like clang like
evil his blood terrorist
he like demands that this
he demands that this uh
like bargain basement suan summer's
looking storeradist but he's like
pick out to the Jewish names
send this like poor Jewish guy
he is my
He's got he's got like a Holocaust tattoo on his arm and he's like oh my god like how evil his
He's doing a Holocaust on this plane
So it's like hilarious because like people people relay that
I would admitaly these are mentally retarded people also also the chief the chief terrorist is Robert Forster and it's a
Howling guy from New York right? Yeah, I forgot that but yeah and then there's some other dudes like the
The uh they get they get hijacked and
Athens, I think, just like really happened.
And
one of the, one of the
assault teams, they don't make it
out of the plane. But is these dudes who are like
obviously Hispanic.
Like, they probably got like a couple
of dudes like from the crew or like a couple
like key grips or something like, yeah, he's
passively brown. Like make him one of the terrorists.
It was so funny in the old.
It was so funny in the old days when they would have like in West Side Story,
they would Jews would play Puerto Ricans.
And in Indian movies, Jews would play Puerto Ricans in Indians.
What, that fucking fool?
That guy, Iron Eyes Cody, you know, in the 70s, when the big, when the big, um, virtue
signaling thing was, you know, don't pollute the earth.
I mean, they'll be wrong.
I don't like people throwing trash around either because they're fuckwise.
but the way they went about it was stupid.
So it's that commercial,
it's like,
it's like Mr.
like cigar store Indian-looking dude
like rowing his canoe.
And then he like rose into,
it's either the,
it's either like the Brooklyn Bridge
towards the Golden Gate Bridge.
The camera is like sitting.
But then he's like,
he's rolling.
They see a bunch of garbage,
you know,
go to the camera and he's like,
you know,
then make him sad.
And then like a tear was on his cheek.
Well, that dude,
they gave that dude all kinds of accolades.
Like,
you know,
this guy's like the soul of Native American culture.
He was some fucking Italian.
guy like pretending to be an Indian.
You know, like from the Bronx or something or
Yonkers, but a
what's also too, I mean, like the tribe.
And Philip Smith in the comments is mentioned in a
really good movie. Black Sunday.
Okay, Black Sunday is cool. Robert Shaw
as a Mossade. Robert
Shaw played Mossad agent.
Well, check this out. That film was on my mind just because I think
it's cool. It's a cool concept.
And it's cool.
They used actual footage from
Super Bowl.
Bull 7, I think, which is also dope.
And people like make fun of me for liking that movie.
But I'm like, look, first of all, it's a 70s movie.
So you've got to incorporate that in your suspension disbelief.
But I think it's well done.
And the Black Sunday, there are obviously some cross between the Black Monday fronts, obviously,
or the Black September and the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine General Command
And another dude who gets, this guy gets seduced by this female partisan who's like this really beautiful Palestinian lady.
And he's this Vietnam vet who's obviously like highly traumatized.
So you kind of feel bad for him.
You know, it's, it's well done.
And that book was written by Thomas Harris.
And he's an interesting guy.
Like he kind of, he did some crap later and he put his name to like real garbage, like Hannibal Rising.
and shit like that.
But the book,
Red Dragon,
and I don't,
I don't go in for paperback novels
unless you got science fiction.
But I read that book,
and I was a young teen,
and it's, you know,
that was the basis for the film Man on Earth.
And that's a horrifying book,
um,
especially because that was at the peak of
the serial murder epidemic.
And,
uh,
so Thomas Harris,
he's done he's done some interesting stuff man and uh outside of books about a hannibal lector and stuff uh black sundays
like the only standalone book he wrote i believe but yeah i mean it was obviously that's when
hollywood was thirsty for fresh ideas and a lot of guys would end up being these kinds of popular
novelists for want to be respiring screenwriters you know um
it um
but yeah that that's a cool
ass movie and what i
you know what movie i always enjoy
watching going back and watching
uh taking a pelham the original taking a pelham
one two three that's a good film yeah
well there's no like you know oh we're we're gonna save
we're not going to shoot the black guy because he's black or we're not
going to shoot it's like no we're willing to kill anyone
yeah yeah in order to do in order to do
to do this.
So it's,
yeah, it's like we're, yeah.
Well, I mean, yeah.
And if you people who,
anybody who takes on that kind of,
it takes on that kind of commitment,
there's going to be an everybody killer,
you know, yeah.
And the,
the Shaw,
the,
the,
the Shaw,
was it,
Robert Shaw played the lead,
the lead hijacker,
right?
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah, he's a good,
his conversations with Walter Mathout
over the radio were just so classic.
Yeah,
well,
it's also water of math,
though,
yeah, people remember him as like this kind of goofy guy
and stuff like the bad news of bears,
which I mean wrong,
he was funny,
you know,
but he could dialed in a couple too.
Yeah,
yeah,
he could dial it in in a more serious role as well.
He had actual range,
like a lot of guys did in those days.
Well,
it's also,
I mean,
back then,
that was when a lot of actors,
even if they didn't come from the stage,
the American theater was still pretty serious.
It wasn't just like,
faggy camp,
like Broadway bullshit
and even if you didn't
even if you weren't a first-reference to stage
actor you learn your craft
you know through that
medium
so
what's the stage is tragedy and comedy
or drama and comedy
you know as we would think of it
so though you know
you you
kind of had
at least a reasonable
a passable amount of
performing of flexibility drilled into
I think.
Yeah, Sony just mentioned Michael Crichton.
Michael Crichton wrote some great stuff.
He was an interesting guy.
He reminded me of a guy named William Slater.
William Slater, he mostly wrote YA fiction.
Back when it was an actual genre,
it wasn't just like fat ladies writing about
like werewolves butt-fucking each other and stuff.
But it, uh, William Slater, he wrote this,
he wrote, he wrote two books.
I mean, a big impact on me as,
as a kid.
Well, it's called the Green Futures of Tycho.
The other was called Interstellar Pig.
And for stuff that was written for teenagers,
it was pretty serious.
Interstellar Pig is a...
It's a riff on tabletop gaming.
But it's been...
It's got hard side aspects,
but there's also love-crafting aspects.
But the Green Fugers of the Tyco...
It's about this kid who's this, he's kind of like his Ender Wigan sort of savant.
And his parents named him for Tycho Brahe.
And he comes across this object in his backyard as he's just kind of like digging around with his golden retriever or whatever.
And it's this egg-shaped object.
And it turns out that like basically you can create like a mini wormhole with it.
And when he learns a master, he starts like,
hopping through different times.
And eventually the paradox that he figures out,
he didn't just find this thing.
Like his future self basically developed
it as an old man and then like buried it
for him is like young self-defined.
And um,
but he also realized like his future self
has gone totally insane.
You know, um,
so it's like it's pretty, it's like heavy stuff for like a kid's book.
But,
you know, Crichton, um,
the,
William Slater like Crichton, he died young.
but he was a genuine polymath.
You know, it was Michael Crichton.
And if,
obviously my favorite
Crichton book is The Eaters of the Dead,
which became the 13th Warrior,
which is a hugely underrated movie.
But it's also,
the book's fascinating
because it's written
from the perspective of Eben Felden,
who was a real guy,
the degree to which his career
was embellished,
is arguable, but he did in fact live among the Varangian ruse and write about them.
You know, and they basically, you know, apparently, I mean, first of all,
they didn't like kill him and pull his lungs out or something.
But he also basically learned their ways and became at least conversationalally competent
in their dialect.
So, I mean, obviously, like, they, you know, they had an affinity for him.
But Crichton wrote it from his perspective.
So you're basically
And it's clear to
It's more clear in the book
Than in the film
You know it's like what what what what what what what
What Felden's experiencing is the basis of Beowulf like the these Viking warriors
This horror that they can't the name of which they can't speak
It's this vestigial population in Neanderthals
Which eat humans which Neanderthals did
And uh that's the basis of the Beowulf's legend
Because in Neanderthal
they abide a matriarchal cult, you know, which pre-civilized humans generally did.
A solar cult is rare, and it's civilizing in the sense of, you know, imposing a top-down
authoritarian structure.
Frank Herbert, of course, wrote about that that's the whole motif of Godham Redoon.
But in any event, I've got...
I started thinking about this after I read
Milford Walpoth
as well as
the guy who wrote before the dawn
which was an incredible book about
human origins
and it's something that
lay people like myself
could apprehend easily but
the guy
fuck if I'm having a senior moment I can't remember his name
but any of the guy wrote before the dawn
he was the science writer for the New York Times
and he got in someone who's fired for
you know,
promoting politically incorrect science.
But,
Nicholas Wade?
Yeah, thank you.
But before the dawn,
one of the things he get into in there,
and Coram McCarthy's actually made reference to this,
there's evidence on
chromagin bones.
There's two things.
There's evidence on both Neanderthal remains
and chromagin remains of being scalped.
So scalping goes
back probably 100,000 years
and
across races, across regions,
across epochs,
if you're going to take
trophies from your victims,
you're going to cut their scalp off,
which is really interesting.
But also
chromagnan
burial sites
and
Neanderthal cooking fires,
the
chromagnin bones have marks a butchery because the anathals were eating them.
So presumably what happened in Neanderthals who were a human subspecies,
but you're not supposed to talk about that because clearly that means that racial differences are real.
Basically what happened was when I did my DNA test,
it said that I had like 70% more Neanderthal DNA than most people do.
Well, I mean, in Europeans,
Europeans have
And Central Asians and
Farity East Asians have Neanderthal admixture.
The only people who don't as a major
category of human being
into the population genetics are black folks.
Black folks basically have zero Neanderthal DNA.
Everybody else has it.
And varying degrees.
But Milford Walpawf and Woff
and Whaleckon,
their theory is basically
there was a catastrophic
race war going on
because cromagnans
who eventually became
not just anatomically
but behaviorally modern humans
Neanderthals were
bigger and stronger than them
and they were hunting them for food
that was a preferred
form of sustenance, okay?
Neanderthals, whoever they could communicate
but they couldn't speak
like cromagnans can
and if you can speak you know what you can do
you can shout military orders
and you can devise tactics
that can be explained to
a fire team or a squad or a platoon
so you're at people are bigger
and stronger than you
and harder to kill than you are
you know if you can if you can shout military orders
at your comrades and tactically outsmart them
you can kill them so presumably
the antithels have probably disappeared
because Cro-Magnon man
annihilated them
because you know what I'm saying we can't
We can't let these brutes survive, which you can't.
If you're being hunted by guys who are built like Patrick Ewing who will eat you,
you have to kill them all.
You know, so that's what happened.
That's why it's a joke and like Wallop off me at that point.
This idea, like, like people don't take Franz Bo's at seriously anymore.
And if you do, you're like some kind of like Redator with, he's mentally disabled.
But this idea that, you know, they're, oh, Neanderthals were just a different.
species. No, they weren't. We're not all African. Neanderthal is one of different species.
Chromagnans rule because they killed everybody else. And these catastrophic race wars
that were kicked off for reasons like, well, those people who live in that other cave are monsters
who eat us. You know, but the eaters of the dead. You know, in Crichton, like a lot of people
who are literary types
and
you know
what would have been considered
philologists back in the day
they took big exception of the book
not for PC reasons
because they're like
well that's not what Bios about
and Craig is like look okay it's
in broad strokes
I'm trying to describe how
in terms of ancestral memory
and symbolic psychology
mythology has come about
and come to hold
this fascination over
over people
to cross
centuries and even millennia.
You know, and I, that's not hard to
believe. And if you read and Beowulf, that
that is the crux of it. I mean, not the
Neanderthal thing, but
you know, the
the monster
Grendel, like Grendel's mother is his deity.
You know, I mean, it may also
within the parameters of the
narrative be his
actual mother,
but that's not
accidental or
just some
is sort of a
trivial
plot device or something
but yeah
right in uh
the adromat strain was cool
and um
the uh the 1970s
body snatchers which is an awesome movie
that's very much like the
andromeda strain um
the original west world was cool
go ahead I'm sorry
Sutherland
Yeah
Yeah the original West world was really
good.
Yeah.
Really good.
You know what else
is not?
This is a movie
that's on a song.
Abel Ferrarra
actually did his own
version of Invasion
the Body Snatchers,
just called Body Snatchers,
from 1993.
And I'm a huge
Abel Ferrar fanatic.
And to Roger Ebert's
credit, he said
this is one of the best movies
in 1993,
and nobody saw it.
Admittedly it had limited
release, but it's got
it's got, um,
it's got Billy Worth in it.
you know, he's that Indian guy
from the Lost Boys and War Party.
I always thought he was cool.
A good actor.
Yeah, he was also,
he,
the first season of American Gladiators,
he was a contestant and he kicked serious ass.
And when I was a kid,
I loved American Gladiators when I was like 13
because it was awesome.
And Billy Worth,
he was obviously outsized by,
you know,
these,
uh,
the gladiators in those days,
they were a bunch of bodybuilders and like
X NFL guys and stuff.
And, I mean, Billy Worth was in great shape.
But these dudes had like 80 pounds on him, and he was holding his own.
And because I was always, because I was always a little guy.
I was like, okay, yeah, fuck yeah.
What a.
Um, but, uh, no, he, but the 93 body snatchers is a really interesting take.
It's got, it's got Forrest Whitaker.
It's got Lee Ermey.
It's got that chick from Childs Play 2, who was kind of a screen, less than old scream queen.
and it takes place on this military base in the dirty south,
which is obviously supposed to be Fort Bragg,
but it's, you know, post-Cold War chaos is underway,
and so people don't even realize what's happening for a minute
because it's a military environment where things are kind of deteriorating anyway.
And it's really good, man.
And it's got a stronger body horror.
aspect than the original or the 78 version.
But yeah, but they're, all of them are great in their own right.
My mom loved the original invasion of the body snatchers.
You know, because she was a horror inside five books.
So I watched it with her a bunch when they'd show it, you know, like a midnight
movies and stuff.
And when I was a kid, now it's like a meme, but the ending
78 body snatchers.
We're brought like a cartwright.
She sees Donald Sutherland.
He's like walking around down in San Francisco.
You know, and she's like, hey, buddy, like, remember me?
Like, I'm human still too.
He just, like, looks at her.
And then he, like, he goes into, like, full on, like, fucking,
yeah, like, like, shrieking pod person mode.
That was, like, really freaky, man,
because, like, you didn't see it coming.
Because, like, the last, uh, people forget,
that's a really, um,
it was a weird juxtaposition of,
of, of, um,
science fiction alien horror stuff and cinema
vera day stuff the last like three minutes of the movie
um is uh it's down sutherland just like walking around he's like in his office
and you see him like filing papers and uh part of the whole
subtext of the movie is you can walk among the pod people if you don't show emotion
so it's like okay like he's he's like kind of adapted to
this new reality.
But it's just like him silently doing his thing.
And then like all of a sudden he busts out with the, yeah, with like the, um,
with like the Zog alarm or whatever.
But, uh, yeah, but it was freaky.
Like the first time I saw it, uh, the Zog scream.
Yeah, no, exactly.
Like the first, uh, the first time I saw it, uh, I, it was like, it was like a shock,
you know, you know, the, uh, the, uh, the,
The ending of the thing is freaky in sort of the opposite way.
Because you either expect, you either expect like a chopper to come in and rescue Childs and McCready,
or you expect one of them to, like, turn into the thing, you know, but it's, it's like ominous as hell.
Because it's like, okay, you know, like McGrady, I think, you know, it's just sitting,
just sitting by the remains of the fire
you know and Chalds was like you know that fire
are going to last you know
longer than an hour or whatever
and McGree is like yeah well
I don't think you're in a position to do much
about too much about anything
and he busts out where it remains
it was J and B but he's like all right these dudes
are either they're going to freeze
of death one of them is not human
and so the remaining human
is going to be torn apart by the thing
but also they don't even know
it's not even clear if they
if they killed it or not
you know
um
and that's uh
that uh
before
john carpenter lost his mind and became like
this sad alcoholic
dementia victim who like hates his fans
um
you know he
he was bringing really interesting stuff to the table
and the thing is about the most perfect adaptation of a lovecraftian narrative I've seen
because it's not really a remake of the thing from another world
the thing from another world is a great movie
but that's that's Frankenstein's monster from space
you know the thing is at the mountains of madness
all right
with with homages
to the Howard Hawks original
like you know in the move
you know in the thing
of another world
where the monster gets lit on fire
and they crassets through the wall
into the snow
okay that's one continuous shot
they lit that man on fire
that's insane
you know they had never been done before
and uh
when um
when uh
when Benis
it's a freaky sit anyway
but when the Benis thing, like, runs out and they gather around him, and McCready's like,
that's not Benis.
And then something he, like, opens his tentacles, and he lets out that, like, otherworldly scream,
and then they burn him.
That's, that's, I mean, those two things.
I was, like, showing off the practical effects of Rob Botton.
But also, you know, it was a homage to that, there was an homage to that scene in the 951 Hawks movie.
but that
the thing
in the mouth of madness
is obviously
like an on the nose
of craftian movie
and that's a great movie man
but it's very much
like self-aware
and you know
kind of cluing the audience
and what he's doing
the thing is more subtle
but that's why Carbender
when he saw his marbles
he said the thing
Prince of Darkness
and in the mother madness
what he calls
Apocalypse trilogy
because the world
comes to an end in all three
you know
and that's the
and the subtext too
even
even if you have
sort of a happy
ending view of the thing
where you know
McReedian childs have killed it
I mean what
that changes everything
what else is there
either burned you know buried in
in the ice that's just going to be kicked up owing to the deep geological cycles of the earth
or what else is going to crash land and become an extinction level event inside of three years.
You know, it's a fascinating meditation on that.
And it's really interesting, too, because it goes to show you how it's, uh,
You know, it dropped in 1980,
right around the night
Blade Runner did.
They both failed to the box office.
And that happens
one of the people think, man,
like classic film.
It's not Oscar season films
that become like classic
to the minds of film watchers.
You know,
like nobody's sitting around.
I mean,
I'm sure there's like some boomer retard
helot somewhere who's saying this,
but nobody's saying like,
yeah, Forrest Gump is the greatest fucking movie ever.
It just totally gets my dick hard.
You know,
Like, it's stuff like that would be, that would be Schindler's list.
Yeah, Schindler's fist.
It's, uh, this, there are some, like, hilarious parts to Schindler's fist, man, like,
uh, they can't be denied.
Um, well, it's also, uh, Schindler's fist is family do is Amon Goathe.
First of all, he was executed for corruption and brutality.
So obviously he, what he was doing was a.
problem.
And secondly,
um,
in real life,
he was this kind of fat guy who is not remotely attractive.
But in the movie,
it's,
uh,
they get Ralph finds who's got,
like looks like a matinee idol.
Um,
and he's in,
uh,
this incredibly dope like tonne cover bond the uniform.
It's,
you know,
it's like,
what exactly are you trying to convey here,
man?
You know,
uh,
it's um but yeah
what's also awesome too because
like when they're
when they're building the camp
apparently Germans are idiots who don't know how to engineer
or build things because everybody knows that's what the Germans
are known for so they get this like
random hapless Ashkenazi lady
who apparently they rely on for like engineering
know how but then
Goeth just gets mad at her and like blows her away
like it's like
So you're saying basically the third the third
like really good looking well-dressed guys
who had like IQs of 40 and like
were functioning on a level of sub-serine Africans
it's like well
and they were they were like blowing away
like 19 year old Jewish girls for knowing more
about engineering than them like that
that that's an order of that
like Tyler Perry movie
where like the black chicks and the mail room like
put, you know, the Apollo mission to success or whatever.
It's not, it's not credible.
Me and my buddy Byrd have been threatening to
Mystery Science Theater, that Hidden Figures movie
on like Rumble or something like that.
That'd be, uh, that'd be pretty awesome.
It's, uh, yeah, Bird is, he's a funny guy, man.
I always enjoy it when he, uh, I always enjoy it when he's on deck with, uh,
you were a burden or anybody else um the only time i ever talked to him was when uh
hidden niggers there's a movie about mega being out called hidden gerbils but it's
like literally based on like factual circumstances you know it's about how gerbling like
built faga and is like responsible for all of its all of its good works and successes but um river
River Hollow here
put together the two movies we talked
about and said life is like a pile of shoes
That's awesome
I uh
You know the only time I said bird and Thomas
Need to a pod
Um
I the time I the only time I talked to bird in real time was
during inauguration or no I was during election night
I was out of Portland
And uh
I'd uh I've been out with my with my homie Anthony who's a dear friend you know you guys know I'm
Anthony Ramundo has been on my course but that was the first time I'd been in face to face and he took
us out of this awesome steakhouse and uh I had a couple scotches and then I got home and uh
or got back to the hotel and I I had like a six or a king cobra and it was like election night
and he's like festive um you know I I was getting like a little bit loose you know and uh and Burb was
deck and uh i think he was a little bit crooked too and uh yeah that was uh i didn't think
about show i had a great time talking to the fellas but apparently that became this like legendary
uh live stream just because everybody was like saying crazy shit and uh you know everybody was in a
happy mood and there's a lot of there's like a lot of energy abounding like even at my hotel and stuff um
I mean, Portland's kind of an odd place.
But, I mean, there's always, unless it's...
I like it, man.
We hung out.
We hung out in Portland and I like it.
It's one of my favorite, uh, it's one of my favorite cities, man.
I used to go there all the time in the 2000s.
I still love going there this day.
Um, I want to go out, uh, one of the, one of the Montana guys came through on Tuesday.
And I took it to the landmark.
And, uh, we had a great time, man.
but he,
uh,
you know,
Charlie's out there as well.
I told him to put him in touch with Charlie,
but,
uh,
um,
a bunch of the Idaho guys have told me,
they're like,
look,
you know,
when you travel to,
when you go to Portland over the road,
you pass right through where we're at,
which I do.
You know,
they're like,
uh,
you should come hang out this summer or fall.
And I,
I've been meaning to go visit,
uh,
I don't want to go to the coast to see Anthony
as well.
wipe this summer because
it's something they got going on
that I'd like
to help out with.
But I, so yeah,
I'm always looking for, if it's in the budget,
and I'm not like feeling like I'm at
Desmondor.
I'm always looking for excuses to go
to the northwest, man.
So, no, I love Portland.
But even, what I was, what I was
going to say was, at election night,
there's always, there's always high energy.
Even if it's a kind of is literally
nobody's to fuck about like,
like Mitt Ron.
Romney versus, you know, like Snoop Zoggyzog or something.
But, no, there was just like a lot of, like, positive energy around.
And we like, he ate like kings at the steakhouse.
And like I got kind of loaded.
And then, yeah, like Byrne was saying funny things.
And we, we got a good, like, comedy, comedic rapport, I think, which is a real thing.
But David, Philip Smith in the, in the chat,
I took David Irving to the Berghoff in 99.
That was...
That's freaking awesome.
Yeah.
That's freaking awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm, uh...
Yeah, we're going up on the hour.
I'm going to bounce on a second because, uh, speaking of good food and spirits, um, it's, uh, I, I need a BLT.
Because, like, I only eat once a day and, like, I basically just eat lunch.
And, uh, I've got to be able to eat lunch.
of the landmark and I'll
I'll eat at BLT
and have Bush Mills
and I'll like peck away
on my manuscript.
The reason why in the mother
man is on my mind
I was watching it
like early this morning
I was here early this morning
me like 4 a.m.
because I wake up at like 4 a.m.
And the scene with Sutter Kane
played by you can Prachno.
He's uh,
like Sam Neal's like shit talking to him
but he's just like typing away and he's like
here's the manuscript.
It's done.
You know?
And then he's like,
you know, so fuck you.
Like the great old one
are going to bust through the wall.
And I'm the master of this reality anyway.
And Sam Neal just being like a smug English prick.
Like I,
that's like the way that I'm like,
that's like me with my manuscript and like Sam Neal is like is a dog.
So I'm like,
that's really fucking funny.
If it's a bit grandiose.
But yeah,
man,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna make myself,
uh,
presentable,
um,
and,
uh,
go eat lunch.
But yeah,
thank you for doing this,
man.
Uh,
I,
I,
really good about these Thursday streams.
And I know you got
your own shit to do, so I appreciate
digging the time.
Give my love to Mrs. Canonis.
And we'll, uh, yeah,
we can meet a couple days, even though like,
even though, like, Carl was, like, sabotaging everything
because he's Jewish.
Fucking Carl, man.
Yeah.
He spoils everything.
Yeah. He's just, like, he's just a dirty Jew.
But, uh,
and you think, you think so it's because he runs a fast food chain
that he can, like, do whatever he wants.
but in any event, no, that aside.
But yeah, we'll figure out, we'll figure I want to collab on that.
I think tomorrow I'm collabing with Burden.
And, you know, like I said, I'm trying to deliver
the really much fresh stuff as I can because, like,
I didn't really do shit for a month, which again,
I am sorry about all the subs.
Well, we'll finish up.
We'll get together in a couple days and finish up.
Yeah, yeah.
That would be good.
And Democratic Campitia.
and see what's next after that.
Yeah.
No, all right.
Thank you, buddy.
I'll, uh, yeah.
We'll talk later this weekend.
Talk to you later.
All right.
Adios, everybody.
