The Pete Quiñones Show - Live with RealThomas777 - 04/16/26

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:34 AIB for the life you're after. Allied Irish Bank's PLC is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Hey, what's happening, man? Hey, thanks for, thanks for doing this. Of course, of course. How's your week going? Doing good. A lot of time outside this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Starting to get hot today. So, yeah, I'm going to stay at the house for the rest of the day. you working in the garden we had some people here this morning doing some work around the house so um some contractors and everything so mostly out there pointing and stuff
Starting point is 00:02:12 yeah I found this I found this video from 2000 2000 sort of interesting like that entire year I mean because the 90s had sort of ended but not really and it was pre 9-11
Starting point is 00:02:27 and shit was still pretty low tech. I had a cell phone then, but even in Chicago, probably only about a third of people bid. I had one of them Nokia, like bricks,
Starting point is 00:02:40 you know, it was pretty much like the one, you ever went Riddick Boe for it, Andrew Galada, and Galada being the, the, the cheating Polack that he was.
Starting point is 00:02:53 He got done bashing Bo and the nuts. Well, Bo's corner man hopped in and he had one of the big old Nokia that he started like whacking Galada in the dome with it which with one of those things I mean you whack someone in the head with a smartphone
Starting point is 00:03:09 it'll just like break but one of those Nokia's could do real damage and he actually split Galada's head split his wig a little bit but in any event I was there's this nostalgia
Starting point is 00:03:25 channel on YouTube it's obviously a bunch of Asian people, but they solicit videos from all over. And this one Englishman who's a prolific YouTuber, he uploaded his video of his flight on the Concord. Oh, hi Kitty. We're a big fan of cats here. And I was always fascinated by the Concord as a kid.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And then, you know, I had to fly a lot as a little kid with my folks. which I had mixed feelings about because I don't like flying. And I was thinking about the fuck story that was my flight back from Fayetteville and just kind of all that. But you know, the Concord never flew out of O'Hare
Starting point is 00:04:10 because there was this nationwide movement to ban it for no reason. And James Burnham, to his credit, undertook a major effort to reverse that, but, I mean, to no avail. But first they claimed the Concord was
Starting point is 00:04:26 deteriorating the ozone layer. So then there was testimony for Congress, well, that doesn't make any sense. Then it was, well, it's releasing toxic emissions. Then now's refuted. Then it was, well, the sonic boom is noise pollution. So ultimately,
Starting point is 00:04:47 British airwaves and some conglomerative investors, they took it to the Supreme Court and they pointed out, they're like, look, Air Force One is a louder profile than the Concord, and there's never been a single organized complaint about that. What is this about, really?
Starting point is 00:05:06 So Concord could fly out of New York on a dedicated route, and it could fly out of Dulles. And interestingly, the Concord, because, you know, the reason it was the Concord is because it was a Concord app between British Airways and Air France and all it is, but some of the subs might not. the government in Paris at the time
Starting point is 00:05:28 they were pursuing a Willie Brandt type policy towards the East block still even after you know Willie Brandt went down in disgrace
Starting point is 00:05:41 and the Thatcher government had wanted no part of that but so there was dedicated Concord what they called friendship flights
Starting point is 00:05:49 into East Berlin but you know the Concord is a technological marvel man and it I mean, now, because the analog cockpit, it seems very dated.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And I think it was one of the last planes in service, like passenger aircrafts in service, that had an onboard flight engineer, but it could be wrong. But that's what the, that's where we should be in terms of air travel. You shouldn't be, you shouldn't be waiting for days to take a flight from Fayetteville to Chicago and then fly. on a plane that wasn't even cutting edge 60 years ago. You know, and I, it goes to show you, I've already this point with people because they're like, well, the Concord just wasn't, it just couldn't be profitable. What, what fucking airline is profitable? You know, that's like saying like, well, the railroad's not profitable.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Well, yeah, man, no shit. An airline is just a bank. Delta is a bank. And a hedge. Yeah. The only way it works is if you do what Japan does and, you know, your economy is an entity structured around targeted state intervention. Or you have guys like Elon Musk or Bezos or Andrew Carnegie was who say, yeah, I'm going to establish a railroad and operated a loss basically to keep the government off my back. and so I don't get a slab with antitrust.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And when my revenues get too big to fail in the other enterprises that, you know, my company handles, I can operate at a loss indefinitely with my travel infrastructure and it doesn't matter. Like this idea that the Concord didn't work because people weren't getting rich off investing in it. You're a retard if you think that. But it goes to show you that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:50 the rot was deep long before what people think of as the world. old era and the and the competence crisis. You know, the, it was a bunch of Luddites and weirdos and, and half-ass, uh, parasites and in government who decided that they had to weed up their ass about,
Starting point is 00:08:08 about supersonic commercial travel. I grew up literally less than three miles from Glenview Naval Air Base. That's where a lot of nuclear bombers were based. You know, like I told you that, you know, my dad informed me when I was a kid and my, and my mom, we had nothing to worry about
Starting point is 00:08:24 an evented nuclear war would be dead in seconds. That's a relief. But point being, there was constantly fighter aircraft screaming overhead and it was loud, but I don't remember any sort of mass protest against it.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Property values consistently went up and up and up from the time I was like sentient until now you know because like i moved back to my hometown in 2021 you know i don't believe that the quality of life of people on concord rights was a concord rapes was being devastated by by sonic booms but that's um you know there's no excuse for that and really i realized that under the cold war some of the immediate imperative it has evaporated. For America remaining
Starting point is 00:09:29 demonstrably on the cutting edge of technological innovation and the ability of consumers to access those experiences. But just the same, if you're going to literally wage war to establish a globalism in your name and you're begging the Russians
Starting point is 00:09:47 to take your astronauts and your cargo into orbital space and you're flying passengers around domestically on 1960s technology
Starting point is 00:10:00 that's pathetic you're not you're not you're not the leader of the free world if that's where you're at you're some half-ass failing system USSR 2
Starting point is 00:10:16 that's masquerading as that's that's masquerading as something it's not based on past glu But that's, you know, I mean, it probably sounds goofy because I hate flying. Even when it worked right, it really made me upset. But I'm sort of an aviation fag.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Nonetheless, you know. Well, if you read, I mean, say what you want about the show, the man in the high castle, they had that rocket plane that could get from like Berlin to New York in like two hours. No, I, there's things about that show I liked. that's why I appropriated that flag I actually I had one mocked up I think I showed it to you guys the other week you know I had like a full on
Starting point is 00:11:00 bull's eyes flag mocked up of the American Reich and I appropriated that iconography for my brand and as four days from now on a very auspicious day I'm going to formally announce what I'm trying to get off the ground in terms of my
Starting point is 00:11:20 you know, fraternal organization because, you know, like I said, I think we need formal representation within the aboveboard constellation of new resistance factions. But I, you know, that's how I'm going to brand it. It's a good way to ask me. We need factions.
Starting point is 00:11:46 We need factions that are doing different things, but communicating and cooperating. Yes, sir. Boy, howdy. And I think I got a good eye for optics. You know, I mean, I know what I do is one of the reasons why people like my merchant stuff. But it's also good limous test because it guarantees that like it's like, it's like, it's like raid is the bugs. Like my optics sort of fag out with like raid as the cockroaches.
Starting point is 00:12:16 They go like, only they. And then they pee their pants or like the gerbils that are in their assholes. like scurry out that upsets them because that's their only romantic or sexual contact in life but um no I uh I was going somewhere with that beyond durable jokes
Starting point is 00:12:33 and stuff um but no that was four days from now yeah yeah no but I mean I'll link the Concord video I was talking about on substand notes or something so people can watch it because it's really extraordinary
Starting point is 00:12:51 and um you know you could it flew at such altitude you can see the curvature the earth and stuff it's really awesome and they had they had gourmet food on there and champagne you know and uh i that's that's awesome too i think it caused about ten thousand dollars the five from new york the heathrow and it got you there in about two hours and 25 minutes so i mean a and i mean ten grand any ten needs money that was a lot of fucking money i mean they they they should have uh they should have given you caviar and and and like serving turf and champagne and they they like probably got of money some pretty steward is probably should have given you a happy ending but which i'm sure happens sometimes but um even though it wasn't you know within the the uh i don't
Starting point is 00:13:40 offer remand of these but uh you know i got uh well plus two and then we can move on from this subject but all them you know some of those luxury travel channels where you It's usually some like limey guy or some Asian guy who's got a lot of money or at least, you know, whatever media brand he works with a lot of money. So they'll send him to like the most expensive hotel in Dubai or something and he'll just like, you know, show you the shit that they have there. Like on a bunch of those, there's there'll be some, there'll be some Indonesian luxury airline where you actually get like a room on the plane and some lady tucks you into bed and bullshit like that. it's like look man like you telling me that the operating cost of that is is not comparable to the concord you know uh yet that that somehow is viable um so yeah just another example um but yeah i uh oh in other news um i'm on the institute for historical reviews um email list obviously i mean email lists are kind of quaint anymore like you're a minds of the late 90s, but I kind of like that, that they still do shit that way, because that's kind of the charm of IHR, but anymore, and I like Mark Weber, or Weber.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I talked to him years back. I'm talking like 20 years ago, when podcasting was kind of in its infancy, but IHR anymore is kind of, I like what they're doing in terms of their social media the presence. But in terms of their long-term content, they're kind of getting by on past glories. Weber's clicked up with that guy Frody, which I think is kind of unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And I'm not personally insulting the guy, but that dude used to host me on his pod, but then he decided him about bad guy because I asked him why he's got a bunch of crazy Ukrainian Zionists like all over his shit. and apparently that makes me a bad person or something. He's anti-Russian anti-Oriensilist. I mean, he's just like a weirdo.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And it's like, so you're like Mr. IH.R revisionist, but you love Zionism. We were on, we were, I was on a live stream with him like a panel kind of thing. And he's like questioning me about being Catholic and being against like immigration. He's like, oh, so you're saying Catholics have come over the border. you'd be against them coming over the border. I'm like, yeah, I'd fucking deport them myself and we'd pray the rosary while I was doing it. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:16:26 He apparently thinks it's awesome for some, apparently it's awesome for some crazy Zionist Jew to run Ukraine and for Ukraine is to slaughter their own kind. So he's a totally, he's a weirdo who doesn't, like thinking isn't his strong suit. He's really, really, really, really dumb. With Novi-Bed, it's time to take a spin with the future of online casinos. Unlock a world of entertainment with the best value and highest RTP in the industry
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Starting point is 00:18:00 And it's a bad luck for Weber to hang around somebody who's like really, really, really stupid. But, uh, you know, whatever. I think, um, like Weber, Weber's, uh, latest discussion. with a fruity or fruit cake or whatever his fucking name is. Yeah, Hollywood's finally admitting that the good guys in World War II were hypocrites. I'm like, okay, Curtis LeMay and Hap Arnold said that. You know, the guys who ordered the strategic bombing. If you watch that movie and that's what you take away from it,
Starting point is 00:18:42 you're really simple. you know um which move which movie is he talked or he's talking about now that one where it's it's uh it's like russle crow for some reason it became like a big fat guy uh trying to like shame people of not being good looking but russell crow disappeared russell core went from being this kind of like action man uh like good looking male model type guy to being this kind of like random fat guy which i don't really understand like don't know people like take a zempec or something for that shit but so he's like fat guy russell crow like talking like on Australian redneck
Starting point is 00:19:17 and like well he's supposed to be Herman Gehring and like I don't understand why according I don't understand why Hollywood thinks that thinks that the Third Reich
Starting point is 00:19:25 were a bunch of like English and Australian guys I've never figured that out you don't think Blimey Huel Hitler but um like it'd be like
Starting point is 00:19:35 it'd be like that show Dalton Abbey it was a there was a bunch of dudes like goose stepping around and you know acting like Charlie Chaplin
Starting point is 00:19:45 and the great dictators or something, but I... Well, as good as good as the miniseries Rome was the, um, the one that, um, what's his name did? Um, Red Dawn Dawn guy. Why is his name escaping?
Starting point is 00:19:58 John Millius. Yeah, John Millius. The two seasons he did, they're running around and using British accents and it's just like, look, I love this show. It's great, but British accents. Well, the nudiest thing was, and it's a terrible movie, I want to see in the theater with my girl. at the time because, you know, she, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:20 she was into kind of the same stuff I was, um, including, you know, World War II and Reich stuff. So we went to see enemy at the gates when it opened, that old orchard theater, like people local and North Shore, like no old orchard theater, which is still going. I love that, I love that movie for the guns. The weaponry is amazing. Well, the opening scene, uh, when they're crossed in the Volga and the commissar, it's like the kid who it follows
Starting point is 00:20:46 who's the Soviet infantrymen who later becomes kind of this pastiche of Vasili Zaitsev and some other guys but before he realizes his aptitude for as a marksman
Starting point is 00:21:03 you know he's with a fire team they hand him a magazine and they hand one of his comrades a bolt action rifle
Starting point is 00:21:20 and a yeah and then he says there's the enemy you know if you turn and run will shoot you and then sure enough he sees some dude
Starting point is 00:21:31 like crack and run and then they like open up on him with some kind of belt-fed weapon so he's like oh fuck so then they're crossing the Volga and these Stuccas are screaming down and like strafing them and it was really well done
Starting point is 00:21:44 and it CGI from that era was shit but the set pieces looked good but then they get into the movie and inexplicably Bob Hoskins is Nikita Khrushchev and like Bob Hoskins
Starting point is 00:21:57 looks about as much like Nikita Khrushchev as I look like Bob Hoskins and um there's a bunch of guys with like cockney accents or supposed to be the Red Army it's like that's fucking retarded like it's even dumber than having them talk
Starting point is 00:22:11 like Mr. Chekhov and kind of pigeon English with with cringy Russian accents. It's like, why are the English guys? That's, you know, but yeah, that movie was a turkey. But no, the movie is that film just called Nuremberg, which I watched
Starting point is 00:22:29 and implements over like a week when I was sick. I literally just get bored with it. I mean, first of all, it's judgment at Nuremberg, which is obviously a propaganda film, but it's far more well done. it's like the Cliffsnodes version of Judgment at Nuremberg with worse acting and this kind of cringy, corny exposition.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But, you know, if Weber and Fruitcake's notion is that there's some crazy based movie because it acknowledges that the allies were very loose and countervalue targeting and were just as categorical in their decision to murder human beings under auspices of military necessity. You know, again, the men who ordered the strategic bombing openly talked about that. Bomber Harris literally collaborated with David Irving on the Dresden book. And Hap Arnold wrote part of the introduction. LeMay went on record saying, if we lost things,
Starting point is 00:23:36 the war I would be hanged as a war criminal. You know, but I guess the fruitcake is like, ooh, this excites a jubble in my asshole. Hail Zion. I don't like Catholics. But, uh, whatever. So I wasn't going to talk shit about that fucking idiot. Then here I go. Just like thinking about him annoys me. He's got like a bunch of like LGBTQ tattoos of like Vikings and butt fucking each other and stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:00 He's an idiot. But we're going to move on from that. I but no and it's um plus the movie was kind of I realized what they were doing too I mean it was very calculated in in how
Starting point is 00:24:17 uh in the in the timing of it and like I said it's not a thoughtful movie it's very much the CliffsNotes' version of judgment at Nuremberg but it um the uh but it's not
Starting point is 00:24:28 it's not gonna have the desired effect it's if you want to if you want to if you want to convey you something about Jewish martyrdom and the rights of the design is cause. He said, do what Golan Globus did. You know, I was talking to a friend of mine the other
Starting point is 00:24:42 day. We were talking on the pot about that propaganda story about when Flight 847 was hijacked. You know, Hezbollah demanded the flight attendants identified the Jewish names. But then, like, nobody was murdered on that flight other than that one
Starting point is 00:25:01 poor Navy diver. So it's like, So they just wanted to know, like, the Jewish people for the hell of it. Like, where's this going? But in any event, I mean, first of all, it didn't happen. But in that movie, the Delta Force with Chuck Norris and Lee Marvin, you know, it was a Goan Globus movie. It's basically the story of Flight 847, except they said at TWA, it's ATW. It's so on the nose.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And the Delta Force of these guys in, like, ninja suits. And they're, they're, like, immune to bullets. And they don't have, like, laser guns. but it got like retarded. Isn't that the one where he has rocket launchers on his motorcycle? Yeah, straight out of that movie Megaforce, which is actually like hilariously awesome because it's so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But it's like, it's on that left. Like we got a dune buggy with like a Vulcan cannon on it. That apparently is like, uh, that, you know, that apparently doesn't,
Starting point is 00:25:53 uh, cause insurmountable drag. And yeah, we, we, we launch like little tiny rockets like off of these like, like Kawasaki fucking crotch and some shit
Starting point is 00:26:05 but uh but yeah there's a scene where this guy who's like obviously like like obviously like some some some like Jewish guy from Brooklyn who's like putting on like a really badder of accent he's like clang like evil his blood terrorist
Starting point is 00:26:19 he like demands that this he demands that this uh like bargain basement suan summer's looking storeradist but he's like pick out to the Jewish names send this like poor Jewish guy he is my He's got he's got like a Holocaust tattoo on his arm and he's like oh my god like how evil his
Starting point is 00:26:38 He's doing a Holocaust on this plane So it's like hilarious because like people people relay that I would admitaly these are mentally retarded people also also the chief the chief terrorist is Robert Forster and it's a Howling guy from New York right? Yeah, I forgot that but yeah and then there's some other dudes like the The uh they get they get hijacked and Athens, I think, just like really happened. And one of the, one of the
Starting point is 00:27:10 assault teams, they don't make it out of the plane. But is these dudes who are like obviously Hispanic. Like, they probably got like a couple of dudes like from the crew or like a couple like key grips or something like, yeah, he's passively brown. Like make him one of the terrorists. It was so funny in the old.
Starting point is 00:27:32 It was so funny in the old days when they would have like in West Side Story, they would Jews would play Puerto Ricans. And in Indian movies, Jews would play Puerto Ricans in Indians. What, that fucking fool? That guy, Iron Eyes Cody, you know, in the 70s, when the big, when the big, um, virtue signaling thing was, you know, don't pollute the earth. I mean, they'll be wrong. I don't like people throwing trash around either because they're fuckwise.
Starting point is 00:28:02 but the way they went about it was stupid. So it's that commercial, it's like, it's like Mr. like cigar store Indian-looking dude like rowing his canoe. And then he like rose into, it's either the,
Starting point is 00:28:12 it's either like the Brooklyn Bridge towards the Golden Gate Bridge. The camera is like sitting. But then he's like, he's rolling. They see a bunch of garbage, you know, go to the camera and he's like,
Starting point is 00:28:21 you know, then make him sad. And then like a tear was on his cheek. Well, that dude, they gave that dude all kinds of accolades. Like, you know, this guy's like the soul of Native American culture.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He was some fucking Italian. guy like pretending to be an Indian. You know, like from the Bronx or something or Yonkers, but a what's also too, I mean, like the tribe. And Philip Smith in the comments is mentioned in a really good movie. Black Sunday. Okay, Black Sunday is cool. Robert Shaw
Starting point is 00:28:47 as a Mossade. Robert Shaw played Mossad agent. Well, check this out. That film was on my mind just because I think it's cool. It's a cool concept. And it's cool. They used actual footage from Super Bowl. Bull 7, I think, which is also dope.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And people like make fun of me for liking that movie. But I'm like, look, first of all, it's a 70s movie. So you've got to incorporate that in your suspension disbelief. But I think it's well done. And the Black Sunday, there are obviously some cross between the Black Monday fronts, obviously, or the Black September and the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine General Command And another dude who gets, this guy gets seduced by this female partisan who's like this really beautiful Palestinian lady. And he's this Vietnam vet who's obviously like highly traumatized.
Starting point is 00:29:46 So you kind of feel bad for him. You know, it's, it's well done. And that book was written by Thomas Harris. And he's an interesting guy. Like he kind of, he did some crap later and he put his name to like real garbage, like Hannibal Rising. and shit like that. But the book, Red Dragon,
Starting point is 00:30:07 and I don't, I don't go in for paperback novels unless you got science fiction. But I read that book, and I was a young teen, and it's, you know, that was the basis for the film Man on Earth. And that's a horrifying book,
Starting point is 00:30:22 um, especially because that was at the peak of the serial murder epidemic. And, uh, so Thomas Harris, he's done he's done some interesting stuff man and uh outside of books about a hannibal lector and stuff uh black sundays like the only standalone book he wrote i believe but yeah i mean it was obviously that's when
Starting point is 00:30:49 hollywood was thirsty for fresh ideas and a lot of guys would end up being these kinds of popular novelists for want to be respiring screenwriters you know um it um but yeah that that's a cool ass movie and what i you know what movie i always enjoy watching going back and watching uh taking a pelham the original taking a pelham
Starting point is 00:31:18 one two three that's a good film yeah well there's no like you know oh we're we're gonna save we're not going to shoot the black guy because he's black or we're not going to shoot it's like no we're willing to kill anyone yeah yeah in order to do in order to do to do this. So it's, yeah, it's like we're, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Well, I mean, yeah. And if you people who, anybody who takes on that kind of, it takes on that kind of commitment, there's going to be an everybody killer, you know, yeah. And the, the Shaw,
Starting point is 00:31:44 the, the, the Shaw, was it, Robert Shaw played the lead, the lead hijacker, right? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:52 yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a good, his conversations with Walter Mathout over the radio were just so classic. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:32:00 it's also water of math, though, yeah, people remember him as like this kind of goofy guy and stuff like the bad news of bears, which I mean wrong, he was funny, you know, but he could dialed in a couple too.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, yeah, he could dial it in in a more serious role as well. He had actual range, like a lot of guys did in those days. Well, it's also, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:20 back then, that was when a lot of actors, even if they didn't come from the stage, the American theater was still pretty serious. It wasn't just like, faggy camp, like Broadway bullshit and even if you didn't
Starting point is 00:32:34 even if you weren't a first-reference to stage actor you learn your craft you know through that medium so what's the stage is tragedy and comedy or drama and comedy you know as we would think of it
Starting point is 00:32:48 so though you know you you kind of had at least a reasonable a passable amount of performing of flexibility drilled into I think. Yeah, Sony just mentioned Michael Crichton.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Michael Crichton wrote some great stuff. He was an interesting guy. He reminded me of a guy named William Slater. William Slater, he mostly wrote YA fiction. Back when it was an actual genre, it wasn't just like fat ladies writing about like werewolves butt-fucking each other and stuff. But it, uh, William Slater, he wrote this,
Starting point is 00:33:26 he wrote, he wrote two books. I mean, a big impact on me as, as a kid. Well, it's called the Green Futures of Tycho. The other was called Interstellar Pig. And for stuff that was written for teenagers, it was pretty serious. Interstellar Pig is a...
Starting point is 00:33:45 It's a riff on tabletop gaming. But it's been... It's got hard side aspects, but there's also love-crafting aspects. But the Green Fugers of the Tyco... It's about this kid who's this, he's kind of like his Ender Wigan sort of savant. And his parents named him for Tycho Brahe. And he comes across this object in his backyard as he's just kind of like digging around with his golden retriever or whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And it's this egg-shaped object. And it turns out that like basically you can create like a mini wormhole with it. And when he learns a master, he starts like, hopping through different times. And eventually the paradox that he figures out, he didn't just find this thing. Like his future self basically developed it as an old man and then like buried it
Starting point is 00:34:40 for him is like young self-defined. And um, but he also realized like his future self has gone totally insane. You know, um, so it's like it's pretty, it's like heavy stuff for like a kid's book. But, you know, Crichton, um,
Starting point is 00:34:58 the, William Slater like Crichton, he died young. but he was a genuine polymath. You know, it was Michael Crichton. And if, obviously my favorite Crichton book is The Eaters of the Dead, which became the 13th Warrior,
Starting point is 00:35:13 which is a hugely underrated movie. But it's also, the book's fascinating because it's written from the perspective of Eben Felden, who was a real guy, the degree to which his career was embellished,
Starting point is 00:35:30 is arguable, but he did in fact live among the Varangian ruse and write about them. You know, and they basically, you know, apparently, I mean, first of all, they didn't like kill him and pull his lungs out or something. But he also basically learned their ways and became at least conversationalally competent in their dialect. So, I mean, obviously, like, they, you know, they had an affinity for him. But Crichton wrote it from his perspective. So you're basically
Starting point is 00:36:03 And it's clear to It's more clear in the book Than in the film You know it's like what what what what what what what What Felden's experiencing is the basis of Beowulf like the these Viking warriors This horror that they can't the name of which they can't speak It's this vestigial population in Neanderthals Which eat humans which Neanderthals did
Starting point is 00:36:25 And uh that's the basis of the Beowulf's legend Because in Neanderthal they abide a matriarchal cult, you know, which pre-civilized humans generally did. A solar cult is rare, and it's civilizing in the sense of, you know, imposing a top-down authoritarian structure. Frank Herbert, of course, wrote about that that's the whole motif of Godham Redoon. But in any event, I've got... I started thinking about this after I read
Starting point is 00:37:04 Milford Walpoth as well as the guy who wrote before the dawn which was an incredible book about human origins and it's something that lay people like myself could apprehend easily but
Starting point is 00:37:20 the guy fuck if I'm having a senior moment I can't remember his name but any of the guy wrote before the dawn he was the science writer for the New York Times and he got in someone who's fired for you know, promoting politically incorrect science. But,
Starting point is 00:37:37 Nicholas Wade? Yeah, thank you. But before the dawn, one of the things he get into in there, and Coram McCarthy's actually made reference to this, there's evidence on chromagin bones. There's two things.
Starting point is 00:37:56 There's evidence on both Neanderthal remains and chromagin remains of being scalped. So scalping goes back probably 100,000 years and across races, across regions, across epochs, if you're going to take
Starting point is 00:38:15 trophies from your victims, you're going to cut their scalp off, which is really interesting. But also chromagnan burial sites and Neanderthal cooking fires,
Starting point is 00:38:31 the chromagnin bones have marks a butchery because the anathals were eating them. So presumably what happened in Neanderthals who were a human subspecies, but you're not supposed to talk about that because clearly that means that racial differences are real. Basically what happened was when I did my DNA test, it said that I had like 70% more Neanderthal DNA than most people do. Well, I mean, in Europeans, Europeans have
Starting point is 00:39:04 And Central Asians and Farity East Asians have Neanderthal admixture. The only people who don't as a major category of human being into the population genetics are black folks. Black folks basically have zero Neanderthal DNA. Everybody else has it. And varying degrees.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But Milford Walpawf and Woff and Whaleckon, their theory is basically there was a catastrophic race war going on because cromagnans who eventually became not just anatomically
Starting point is 00:39:40 but behaviorally modern humans Neanderthals were bigger and stronger than them and they were hunting them for food that was a preferred form of sustenance, okay? Neanderthals, whoever they could communicate but they couldn't speak
Starting point is 00:39:56 like cromagnans can and if you can speak you know what you can do you can shout military orders and you can devise tactics that can be explained to a fire team or a squad or a platoon so you're at people are bigger and stronger than you
Starting point is 00:40:11 and harder to kill than you are you know if you can if you can shout military orders at your comrades and tactically outsmart them you can kill them so presumably the antithels have probably disappeared because Cro-Magnon man annihilated them because you know what I'm saying we can't
Starting point is 00:40:29 We can't let these brutes survive, which you can't. If you're being hunted by guys who are built like Patrick Ewing who will eat you, you have to kill them all. You know, so that's what happened. That's why it's a joke and like Wallop off me at that point. This idea, like, like people don't take Franz Bo's at seriously anymore. And if you do, you're like some kind of like Redator with, he's mentally disabled. But this idea that, you know, they're, oh, Neanderthals were just a different.
Starting point is 00:40:59 species. No, they weren't. We're not all African. Neanderthal is one of different species. Chromagnans rule because they killed everybody else. And these catastrophic race wars that were kicked off for reasons like, well, those people who live in that other cave are monsters who eat us. You know, but the eaters of the dead. You know, in Crichton, like a lot of people who are literary types and you know what would have been considered
Starting point is 00:41:38 philologists back in the day they took big exception of the book not for PC reasons because they're like well that's not what Bios about and Craig is like look okay it's in broad strokes I'm trying to describe how
Starting point is 00:41:50 in terms of ancestral memory and symbolic psychology mythology has come about and come to hold this fascination over over people to cross centuries and even millennia.
Starting point is 00:42:02 You know, and I, that's not hard to believe. And if you read and Beowulf, that that is the crux of it. I mean, not the Neanderthal thing, but you know, the the monster Grendel, like Grendel's mother is his deity. You know, I mean, it may also
Starting point is 00:42:17 within the parameters of the narrative be his actual mother, but that's not accidental or just some is sort of a trivial
Starting point is 00:42:32 plot device or something but yeah right in uh the adromat strain was cool and um the uh the 1970s body snatchers which is an awesome movie that's very much like the
Starting point is 00:42:49 andromeda strain um the original west world was cool go ahead I'm sorry Sutherland Yeah Yeah the original West world was really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Really good. You know what else is not? This is a movie that's on a song. Abel Ferrarra actually did his own version of Invasion
Starting point is 00:43:08 the Body Snatchers, just called Body Snatchers, from 1993. And I'm a huge Abel Ferrar fanatic. And to Roger Ebert's credit, he said this is one of the best movies
Starting point is 00:43:18 in 1993, and nobody saw it. Admittedly it had limited release, but it's got it's got, um, it's got Billy Worth in it. you know, he's that Indian guy from the Lost Boys and War Party.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I always thought he was cool. A good actor. Yeah, he was also, he, the first season of American Gladiators, he was a contestant and he kicked serious ass. And when I was a kid, I loved American Gladiators when I was like 13
Starting point is 00:43:45 because it was awesome. And Billy Worth, he was obviously outsized by, you know, these, uh, the gladiators in those days, they were a bunch of bodybuilders and like
Starting point is 00:43:57 X NFL guys and stuff. And, I mean, Billy Worth was in great shape. But these dudes had like 80 pounds on him, and he was holding his own. And because I was always, because I was always a little guy. I was like, okay, yeah, fuck yeah. What a. Um, but, uh, no, he, but the 93 body snatchers is a really interesting take. It's got, it's got Forrest Whitaker.
Starting point is 00:44:21 It's got Lee Ermey. It's got that chick from Childs Play 2, who was kind of a screen, less than old scream queen. and it takes place on this military base in the dirty south, which is obviously supposed to be Fort Bragg, but it's, you know, post-Cold War chaos is underway, and so people don't even realize what's happening for a minute because it's a military environment where things are kind of deteriorating anyway. And it's really good, man.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And it's got a stronger body horror. aspect than the original or the 78 version. But yeah, but they're, all of them are great in their own right. My mom loved the original invasion of the body snatchers. You know, because she was a horror inside five books. So I watched it with her a bunch when they'd show it, you know, like a midnight movies and stuff. And when I was a kid, now it's like a meme, but the ending
Starting point is 00:45:27 78 body snatchers. We're brought like a cartwright. She sees Donald Sutherland. He's like walking around down in San Francisco. You know, and she's like, hey, buddy, like, remember me? Like, I'm human still too. He just, like, looks at her. And then he, like, he goes into, like, full on, like, fucking,
Starting point is 00:45:44 yeah, like, like, shrieking pod person mode. That was, like, really freaky, man, because, like, you didn't see it coming. Because, like, the last, uh, people forget, that's a really, um, it was a weird juxtaposition of, of, of, um, science fiction alien horror stuff and cinema
Starting point is 00:46:03 vera day stuff the last like three minutes of the movie um is uh it's down sutherland just like walking around he's like in his office and you see him like filing papers and uh part of the whole subtext of the movie is you can walk among the pod people if you don't show emotion so it's like okay like he's he's like kind of adapted to this new reality. But it's just like him silently doing his thing. And then like all of a sudden he busts out with the, yeah, with like the, um,
Starting point is 00:46:41 with like the Zog alarm or whatever. But, uh, yeah, but it was freaky. Like the first time I saw it, uh, the Zog scream. Yeah, no, exactly. Like the first, uh, the first time I saw it, uh, I, it was like, it was like a shock, you know, you know, the, uh, the, uh, the, The ending of the thing is freaky in sort of the opposite way. Because you either expect, you either expect like a chopper to come in and rescue Childs and McCready,
Starting point is 00:47:16 or you expect one of them to, like, turn into the thing, you know, but it's, it's like ominous as hell. Because it's like, okay, you know, like McGrady, I think, you know, it's just sitting, just sitting by the remains of the fire you know and Chalds was like you know that fire are going to last you know longer than an hour or whatever and McGree is like yeah well I don't think you're in a position to do much
Starting point is 00:47:44 about too much about anything and he busts out where it remains it was J and B but he's like all right these dudes are either they're going to freeze of death one of them is not human and so the remaining human is going to be torn apart by the thing but also they don't even know
Starting point is 00:48:03 it's not even clear if they if they killed it or not you know um and that's uh that uh before john carpenter lost his mind and became like
Starting point is 00:48:20 this sad alcoholic dementia victim who like hates his fans um you know he he was bringing really interesting stuff to the table and the thing is about the most perfect adaptation of a lovecraftian narrative I've seen because it's not really a remake of the thing from another world the thing from another world is a great movie
Starting point is 00:48:50 but that's that's Frankenstein's monster from space you know the thing is at the mountains of madness all right with with homages to the Howard Hawks original like you know in the move you know in the thing of another world
Starting point is 00:49:08 where the monster gets lit on fire and they crassets through the wall into the snow okay that's one continuous shot they lit that man on fire that's insane you know they had never been done before and uh
Starting point is 00:49:22 when um when uh when Benis it's a freaky sit anyway but when the Benis thing, like, runs out and they gather around him, and McCready's like, that's not Benis. And then something he, like, opens his tentacles, and he lets out that, like, otherworldly scream, and then they burn him.
Starting point is 00:49:44 That's, that's, I mean, those two things. I was, like, showing off the practical effects of Rob Botton. But also, you know, it was a homage to that, there was an homage to that scene in the 951 Hawks movie. but that the thing in the mouth of madness is obviously like an on the nose
Starting point is 00:50:07 of craftian movie and that's a great movie man but it's very much like self-aware and you know kind of cluing the audience and what he's doing the thing is more subtle
Starting point is 00:50:20 but that's why Carbender when he saw his marbles he said the thing Prince of Darkness and in the mother madness what he calls Apocalypse trilogy because the world
Starting point is 00:50:31 comes to an end in all three you know and that's the and the subtext too even even if you have sort of a happy ending view of the thing
Starting point is 00:50:50 where you know McReedian childs have killed it I mean what that changes everything what else is there either burned you know buried in in the ice that's just going to be kicked up owing to the deep geological cycles of the earth or what else is going to crash land and become an extinction level event inside of three years.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know, it's a fascinating meditation on that. And it's really interesting, too, because it goes to show you how it's, uh, You know, it dropped in 1980, right around the night Blade Runner did. They both failed to the box office. And that happens one of the people think, man,
Starting point is 00:51:42 like classic film. It's not Oscar season films that become like classic to the minds of film watchers. You know, like nobody's sitting around. I mean, I'm sure there's like some boomer retard
Starting point is 00:51:53 helot somewhere who's saying this, but nobody's saying like, yeah, Forrest Gump is the greatest fucking movie ever. It just totally gets my dick hard. You know, Like, it's stuff like that would be, that would be Schindler's list. Yeah, Schindler's fist. It's, uh, this, there are some, like, hilarious parts to Schindler's fist, man, like,
Starting point is 00:52:17 uh, they can't be denied. Um, well, it's also, uh, Schindler's fist is family do is Amon Goathe. First of all, he was executed for corruption and brutality. So obviously he, what he was doing was a. problem. And secondly, um, in real life,
Starting point is 00:52:40 he was this kind of fat guy who is not remotely attractive. But in the movie, it's, uh, they get Ralph finds who's got, like looks like a matinee idol. Um, and he's in,
Starting point is 00:52:52 uh, this incredibly dope like tonne cover bond the uniform. It's, you know, it's like, what exactly are you trying to convey here, man? You know,
Starting point is 00:53:03 uh, it's um but yeah what's also awesome too because like when they're when they're building the camp apparently Germans are idiots who don't know how to engineer or build things because everybody knows that's what the Germans are known for so they get this like
Starting point is 00:53:22 random hapless Ashkenazi lady who apparently they rely on for like engineering know how but then Goeth just gets mad at her and like blows her away like it's like So you're saying basically the third the third like really good looking well-dressed guys who had like IQs of 40 and like
Starting point is 00:53:42 were functioning on a level of sub-serine Africans it's like well and they were they were like blowing away like 19 year old Jewish girls for knowing more about engineering than them like that that that's an order of that like Tyler Perry movie where like the black chicks and the mail room like
Starting point is 00:54:02 put, you know, the Apollo mission to success or whatever. It's not, it's not credible. Me and my buddy Byrd have been threatening to Mystery Science Theater, that Hidden Figures movie on like Rumble or something like that. That'd be, uh, that'd be pretty awesome. It's, uh, yeah, Bird is, he's a funny guy, man. I always enjoy it when he, uh, I always enjoy it when he's on deck with, uh,
Starting point is 00:54:30 you were a burden or anybody else um the only time i ever talked to him was when uh hidden niggers there's a movie about mega being out called hidden gerbils but it's like literally based on like factual circumstances you know it's about how gerbling like built faga and is like responsible for all of its all of its good works and successes but um river River Hollow here put together the two movies we talked about and said life is like a pile of shoes That's awesome
Starting point is 00:55:09 I uh You know the only time I said bird and Thomas Need to a pod Um I the time I the only time I talked to bird in real time was during inauguration or no I was during election night I was out of Portland And uh
Starting point is 00:55:28 I'd uh I've been out with my with my homie Anthony who's a dear friend you know you guys know I'm Anthony Ramundo has been on my course but that was the first time I'd been in face to face and he took us out of this awesome steakhouse and uh I had a couple scotches and then I got home and uh or got back to the hotel and I I had like a six or a king cobra and it was like election night and he's like festive um you know I I was getting like a little bit loose you know and uh and Burb was deck and uh i think he was a little bit crooked too and uh yeah that was uh i didn't think about show i had a great time talking to the fellas but apparently that became this like legendary uh live stream just because everybody was like saying crazy shit and uh you know everybody was in a
Starting point is 00:56:16 happy mood and there's a lot of there's like a lot of energy abounding like even at my hotel and stuff um I mean, Portland's kind of an odd place. But, I mean, there's always, unless it's... I like it, man. We hung out. We hung out in Portland and I like it. It's one of my favorite, uh, it's one of my favorite cities, man. I used to go there all the time in the 2000s.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I still love going there this day. Um, I want to go out, uh, one of the, one of the Montana guys came through on Tuesday. And I took it to the landmark. And, uh, we had a great time, man. but he, uh, you know, Charlie's out there as well.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I told him to put him in touch with Charlie, but, uh, um, a bunch of the Idaho guys have told me, they're like, look, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:07 when you travel to, when you go to Portland over the road, you pass right through where we're at, which I do. You know, they're like, uh, you should come hang out this summer or fall.
Starting point is 00:57:17 And I, I've been meaning to go visit, uh, I don't want to go to the coast to see Anthony as well. wipe this summer because it's something they got going on that I'd like
Starting point is 00:57:29 to help out with. But I, so yeah, I'm always looking for, if it's in the budget, and I'm not like feeling like I'm at Desmondor. I'm always looking for excuses to go to the northwest, man. So, no, I love Portland.
Starting point is 00:57:42 But even, what I was, what I was going to say was, at election night, there's always, there's always high energy. Even if it's a kind of is literally nobody's to fuck about like, like Mitt Ron. Romney versus, you know, like Snoop Zoggyzog or something. But, no, there was just like a lot of, like, positive energy around.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And we like, he ate like kings at the steakhouse. And like I got kind of loaded. And then, yeah, like Byrne was saying funny things. And we, we got a good, like, comedy, comedic rapport, I think, which is a real thing. But David, Philip Smith in the, in the chat, I took David Irving to the Berghoff in 99. That was... That's freaking awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah. That's freaking awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, uh... Yeah, we're going up on the hour. I'm going to bounce on a second because, uh, speaking of good food and spirits, um, it's, uh, I, I need a BLT. Because, like, I only eat once a day and, like, I basically just eat lunch.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And, uh, I've got to be able to eat lunch. of the landmark and I'll I'll eat at BLT and have Bush Mills and I'll like peck away on my manuscript. The reason why in the mother man is on my mind
Starting point is 00:59:03 I was watching it like early this morning I was here early this morning me like 4 a.m. because I wake up at like 4 a.m. And the scene with Sutter Kane played by you can Prachno. He's uh,
Starting point is 00:59:16 like Sam Neal's like shit talking to him but he's just like typing away and he's like here's the manuscript. It's done. You know? And then he's like, you know, so fuck you. Like the great old one
Starting point is 00:59:25 are going to bust through the wall. And I'm the master of this reality anyway. And Sam Neal just being like a smug English prick. Like I, that's like the way that I'm like, that's like me with my manuscript and like Sam Neal is like is a dog. So I'm like, that's really fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:59:40 If it's a bit grandiose. But yeah, man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make myself, uh, presentable,
Starting point is 00:59:49 um, and, uh, go eat lunch. But yeah, thank you for doing this, man. Uh,
Starting point is 00:59:54 I, I, really good about these Thursday streams. And I know you got your own shit to do, so I appreciate digging the time. Give my love to Mrs. Canonis. And we'll, uh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:07 we can meet a couple days, even though like, even though, like, Carl was, like, sabotaging everything because he's Jewish. Fucking Carl, man. Yeah. He spoils everything. Yeah. He's just, like, he's just a dirty Jew. But, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:21 and you think, you think so it's because he runs a fast food chain that he can, like, do whatever he wants. but in any event, no, that aside. But yeah, we'll figure out, we'll figure I want to collab on that. I think tomorrow I'm collabing with Burden. And, you know, like I said, I'm trying to deliver the really much fresh stuff as I can because, like, I didn't really do shit for a month, which again,
Starting point is 01:00:45 I am sorry about all the subs. Well, we'll finish up. We'll get together in a couple days and finish up. Yeah, yeah. That would be good. And Democratic Campitia. and see what's next after that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:58 No, all right. Thank you, buddy. I'll, uh, yeah. We'll talk later this weekend. Talk to you later. All right. Adios, everybody.

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