The Pete Quiñones Show - Live with RealThomas777 - 04/23/26

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I was hipping the subset of fact that my manuscript is finished for all practical purposes. I'm just trying to wrap it up. And I was talking about it was difficult. It's difficult to wrap up a long form academic body of work in a way that isn't abrupt or that seems properly organic and readable. And frankly, there's a lot. There's a lot in this book. It's about 300 pages. is it'll probably be more like 208 or 2090 when it's completely edited and stuff but uh it's pretty
Starting point is 00:00:37 it means basically the entire of the 20th century and i think whether i want to or not i tend to write like a lawyer in terms of the way i present authorities and stuff and that's good and bad it tends towards gravity while also cramming a lot into relatively relatively relatively brief um volume but you know it it i think it i don't want to make things hard on the reader but my things are getting done you know like i this has been another hard week man you know like well i'm having trouble getting around and stuff um i'm not trying to plead jesus but i i don't want people to think i'm just like fucking off and not doing things but i'm going to record it burr in tomorrow morning because we're getting back to rea rickie chicago i took a week off from it because
Starting point is 00:01:27 there wasn't much in the news cycle i mean Reading the lines, there's definitely things of parapolitical nature afoot, but the purpose of radio review of Chicago is to push back on regime adjutop, sort of in a directly, in terms of like a direct rebuttal, I don't understand like a riff on things. You know, I mean, I got a good report with Burton. We can always find something to talk about, but it's, there's a dedicated purpose to that particular pod.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You know, one of the reasons I want to start recording with, with Carl, speaking to Carl and Andy is, because that, that'll be, that'll be a more, um, topically light and, sort of funny stream, you know, because, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:13 I realize that I, I don't like people over emphasize, they got a shit, but I think there's warranted man to, like, bring leopard to the table, but I, well, I think we try to do that here too, so. Oh, no, always, man. I make fun of stuff all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I mean, I make fun of myself. Like, if you don't, you're a, fucking dickhead, you know, I mean, there's nothing worse than a totally humorless person. And, you know, it's one of the reason, like,
Starting point is 00:02:38 that's one of the reason why the laughter are losers. And, uh, it's because, like, they don't understand humor. And like, you're,
Starting point is 00:02:45 you realize you're dealing with, like, a totally dysfunctional fucking monkey if, if humor is just ealing to them. You know, uh, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:58 I mean, don't, don't get me wrong. Uh, would be like concertive ink is just as bad you know but I mean there's no difference between them
Starting point is 00:03:08 so I mean but I just and everybody on deck I assume knows that I don't need to be pedantic for the sake of the slow learners in these environments but I've been it's not related directly
Starting point is 00:03:23 and anything I'm working on but I I've been reading a lot and what we're reviewing all the content I'm talking from the era, like in situ of South Africa, Rhodesia and Angola, because there was a common battlefront there, counter the Soviet Union and the Cubans and the indigenous proxy elements and stuff. And obviously, what most people then is now,
Starting point is 00:03:56 they're most familiar with the Rhodesian situation, albeit superficially. I mean, in part because English was the lingua franca, but also the Rhodesian's, Smith understood PR better than he's credited, I believe. Like, he wasn't a particularly dynamic guy. I mean, he was a real hero, in my opinion. And I read his autobiography, I thought was compelling and well done.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But he wasn't exactly an exciting person, you know. But he did understand PR pretty well. So he'd invite Associated Press and BBC and stuff to Salisbury. You know, with the attitude of, I know, I know your people are going to report lies and be hostile, but, you know, basically look at this is how we live in Rhodesia. And Rhodesia, I mean, granted, it was a small country, but they probably had the highest quality of life in the world. better even than America or the Bundes Republic or Japan.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And of course, the narrative, not just about Rhodesia, but also Portuguese Angola and the Boer Republic, was that this prosperity was somehow a zero-sum enterprise, and that if this ruling element racial, otherwise is living well, it must be to the detriment of these other people. That's a really perverse calculus, and it's just, it's a lie. And that's not just Marxist reasoning either. Like the Marxist, the Marxist perspective was that this progress has been achieved in Southern Africa, which is the driving economic and cultural engine of sub-Saharan Africa, was a necessary process of history,
Starting point is 00:05:50 but now we're going to appropriate it. this uh this sort of like violent interment envy and hatred of all things superior isn't Marxist it's just simple class hatred and
Starting point is 00:06:06 primitive racial hostility towards the manifestations of works and um tangible wealth that is produced and held by superior men
Starting point is 00:06:21 and you see that to this day I've had any time it's not so much anymore on this particular issue because regime discourse has been so dumb down it's not even Midwood anymore
Starting point is 00:06:37 it's on it's it's on a level of subhuman illiteracy but people used to say you know during the Cold War and somewhat beyond it's wrong to explore space because people are
Starting point is 00:06:53 starving or presumably like hood rat kids then don't get to go to school. It's like it's not one or the other. Like wealth isn't this. There's not this fixed amount of wealth. And if I build a factory that makes widgets, I'm somehow appropriating wealth from this fixed amount of pie that that is being stolen from these poor people who need it to, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:18 like have pants to wear or something. Like anybody thinks that. I don't understand political economy. They don't have a theory of value. They don't understand what a wealth is. And can I, um, can I go back to, can I go back to Rhodesia for a second? Oh yeah, you know what if you want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Why did Israel back Rhodesia? They really didn't. Like I got to this, uh, I was arguing this point with guys in the YouTube comments because the monkeys are like, you know, you know, Rhodesia was brave, like, oh, Diof, like, fighting black people. Look, you want to know who brought down Rhodesia? Look up Joe Slovo. Look up the entire anti-apartheid cadre on the ground there.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It was 100% Jewish. Like, basically, the entire Jewish minority of South African in Rhodesia was working night and day to overthrow weight rule. And this idea that the Boers, who, you know, this guy, that guy Stephen Hatfield, who was targeted for, um, malicious prosecution during the during the anthrax attacks. People were acting like it was odd. Like, why was this biochemist who was so renowned working in South Africa? Because South Africa, it'd probably like the greatest concentration of scientists outside of America on this planet.
Starting point is 00:08:38 This idea that they had no idea how to build a fusion weapon without Israel helping them as nonsense. The Israelis, the Israelis needed, Israel actually, especially back then, was a cash poor country. What kept them going was made. massive subsidies in the United States, billions in Holocaust reparations extorted
Starting point is 00:08:59 from the Bundes Republic and, you know, a continuously a continuous flow of of Ascanazi immigrants in the diaspora like quite literally like liquidating
Starting point is 00:09:15 their wealth and their material assets when they moved to Israel and essentially availing it to the government. Like Israel had no money. and they had a domestic weapons industry that made very good small arms, but that was about it. They do business with anybody. They didn't care.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So, and if you want, if you're, if you've got the same sort of tactical exigencies as the, as the Rhodesians did on the frontier, particularly around what's now Namibia and stuff, you know, they're who you'd go to. I mean, like, Brazil did a huge amount of... Brazil's always... Given they make a lot of shitty weapons of this day, but Brazil,
Starting point is 00:10:03 Brazil and France have always manufactured a huge amount of military hardware. I mean, the Israelis had a huge family of business with Brazil and France. And that means that, like, Israel loves Brazil. They don't care. You know, and the... The only...
Starting point is 00:10:20 And despite to what what the Reagan administration said, especially during the first Reagan administration and the second one were two totally different things. Like Buchanan wasn't just fired for the Bitburg speech and he wasn't just fired because Nancy hated him. I mean, those things didn't help. But there was this whole purge of anybody who was actually right wing from the Reagan administration. And Pip Buchanan, James Webb, you know, guys who had been Al Hay loyalist. get his problems, but he, you know, he, uh, he was basically like a Taftian type right winger, like old right type guy. Um, but the, you know, what the Reagan administration said
Starting point is 00:11:07 on the floor of the United Nations, which then actually had some relevancy and what they did were radically different things. You know, the Reagan administration was absolutely doing business with Pretoria. you know, for example, it wasn't just, and honestly, what brought down, Rhodesia, Rhodesia was a lot more robust than Angola, which was a basket case,
Starting point is 00:11:37 just like the mother country was. And South Africa was a very different kind of state. It was much larger, obviously, but also, you know, despite the, Rhodesia was not being crippled by sanctions. It really didn't matter. Like up until the end You know, there's this footage from AP or BBC or whatever
Starting point is 00:11:57 Of a downtown Salisbury Um Where there's this department store That was a domestic brand It was basically like the Rhodesian uh Sax 5th Avenue So there's all these sort of like glamorous ladies buying stuff there And you know
Starting point is 00:12:16 Like business guys, you know like trying on suits And the reporter was like angry talking about, Rhodes has become this our target country that, and they're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:12:27 you're going to sanction us, fuck you. We don't need your imports. You know, what killed it is, um, when, uh,
Starting point is 00:12:33 when Angola fell, you know, because of the carnation revolution, as the youth mystically called, the communist government and what then became Namibia, they,
Starting point is 00:12:45 they didn't just, uh, they, they totally sealed the border with Rhodesia. And Rhodesia needed port access because it was one thing to have to divert rail commerce around Namibia. They couldn't even access the port now. You know, without, and on top it, I mean, there was this ongoing border conflict.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So you know, had that not been, they had to deploy, they had to deploy Rhodesian SAS elements and stuff to guard their trains. They were coming under assault by, you know, the Cubans by, by, by, by, I mean, you name it. I mean, that's what brought it down. It wasn't, I mean, sanctions don't work, number one. But there are states that can be susceptible to them. I mean, if you sanctions, the equivalent of, I mean, they didn't call them sanctions in those days because there wasn't, there wasn't a globalized apparatus to levy these kinds of punishment. So there wasn't an interdependence at scale. But embargoing the Confederate states did play a huge role in crushing them because they were literally a one crop economy.
Starting point is 00:13:53 that's the one instance where sanctioning works. But, you know, Rhodesia wasn't, the important point is, your, Rhodesia wasn't East Germany. It didn't go down because it was this experiment in some sort of planned society that was doomed to fail because it didn't abide the realities of, you know, political economy at scale. And it was at odds with, with human social psychology or something. It was attacked from literally all fronts by both the Warsaw Pact and America and the UK and the EC as it was called then.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I mean, nobody can survive that. Why did the Soviets back the blacks? Well, it was an issue of quick. Well, first of all, Africa is actually a really important continent. It's not just the biggest continent on this planet. But, you know, the Stalinist didn't have. have a, they, they were, you know, I mean, Russia, which was the first among nationalities, as they characterize it officially, you know, in their own propaganda.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So we can use that as sort of the model for the, the, the, the tenor of, uh, Stalinist cultural ideas. The Stalinists and the Soviet Union on the Russians, despite their atheism, they were basically a conservative society. Um, but they, the Russians didn't view themselves as white. Then they certainly didn't do them. themselves as part of the white world. You know, they, uh, or part of Europe. And beyond that, you know, they, they,
Starting point is 00:15:29 they were basically orthodox Marxist Leninists. Like this idea that the Soviets and the DDR weren't real communists. That's bullshit. They absolutely were. That's why I push it back. It's not just because they're illiterate and they shouldn't try and punch above their weight with subject matter. They don't understand.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But when these like megatotypes call, the other day on Rumble, some guy was saying that John Leibowitz, you know, John Stewart is a Marxist. I'm like, what the fuck you mean? He's a Marxist. Like, he believes in the dictatorship of the proletariat's. Like, what does it even mean?
Starting point is 00:15:58 You know, but the, the way the Soviets viewed things. That's, that's boomer ebonics. They have their own language. Which doesn't, it'd be like me saying that, if you'd be like saying Ariel Sharon is a monarchist. Okay, like, the, but the, uh, I, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:21 But no, the Soviets in the Warsaw Pact, they didn't have any notion of trying to forcibly blend populations or annihilate national identity, quite the contrary. But they didn't, they didn't view white minority rule as legitimate. They viewed it exactly like I said as, okay, the productive capital that's been created by the colonial situation and imperialism, as they called it, you know, borrowing from Lenin's book of the same name, that's created a. sort of driving engine of capital productivity in southern Africa, but, you know, the blacks constitute this hyper-exploited pluralitarian, and they're a population unlike American blacks, for example, that are rife for, you know, being availed due a revolutionary consciousness. You know, so the future is a communist sub-saharan Africa that will in turn benefit the socialist community and nations, immeasurably in geostrategic terms, as well as forcing after the,
Starting point is 00:17:26 it was complicated when it would happen after the fall of Saigon, because in part, in substantial measure, Kissinger and Nixon had neutralized a strategic advantage of that by flipping China and decoupling Beijing from Moscow and then backing the Khmer Rouge. So the way the Soviets responded was the Soviets flipped India to the Warsaw Pact camp. Then America in turn flipped Pakistan, which is why the Indo-Pagistan war had, which is why, incidentally, to this day,
Starting point is 00:18:03 Islamabad and Washington have cordial relations, which is why, for example, despite what the regime claims, Islamabad absolutely handed over bin Laden and had him under house arrest, and everybody knew that. But that led approximately, to the Soviet war in Afghanistan,
Starting point is 00:18:21 which a lot of people don't understand. Part of it was the geographic locale of Soviet command and control, which was in Star City, Kazakhstan. But that was predicated on what I just said, too. But so the, but the sort of
Starting point is 00:18:39 after the fall of Saigon and, um, the, uh, the Cold War went hot, um, in Angola, really. you know and so it's like okay this is this is the push here you know the the swapo is rising up you know the the the Portuguese are going down now now's the time to move this is uh this is where the socialist imperative is most animated by a revolutionary impulse that's why um and plus
Starting point is 00:19:14 two the there's no way america was going to deploy it in gold that was unthinkable. You know, I mean, America doesn't go to, during the Cold War, America didn't deploy to fight in Africa anyway. That was France is and the UK's job at Portugal's until like they went down and defeat
Starting point is 00:19:31 going to, you know, betrayal at home. But the, uh, that's why Colonel Callan and that whole insane story developed. Because the British basically, um,
Starting point is 00:19:43 you know, that this was before the buildup. That was that, um, ended up the, facilitating the Falklands War and the Royal Navy buildup that made the Greenland-Ison-U-K gap, a major thorn on the side of the Soviets as regards the deployment patterns, all that. So the UK was gutted militarily.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Northern Ireland was reaching peak. The Cygloid violence was reaching peak attrition. So the SAS, they, you know, they found a maniac like, Callan, who'd actually been in Northern Ireland as an SAS man. And I can't remember his name as one guy wrote a memoir about his time on the ground with Callan in Angola. He was literally a safecracker and a thief who'd done like hard time behind that. He got recruited. You know, it was literally like this band of outlaws who constituted the mercenary.
Starting point is 00:20:48 element on the ground there. But the British, what they didn't know, because there was not good intel on the dark continent. And that's one, you know, we had these fools like Holden Roberto, who was basically a con man. That's how he was able to sell the CIA, a bill of goods. And as well as MI6 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:09 But the, there wasn't good intel on the ground there, human or otherwise. The Cubans were deployed about, 50,000 deep. You know, the Cuban army was basically always engaged. You know, they, they were very, they were deadly serious about the,
Starting point is 00:21:29 about, facilitating the revolution by direct military means on planetary scale. You know, so, Callan and this kind of outlawed band of, a mercenary shows up. They make contact with Roberto. They're their hold of Roberto doesn't have shit. He's got maybe a battalion-sized, element, you know, and a bunch of old
Starting point is 00:21:53 and a bunch of old Belgian rifles. You know, so Kalin, like, goes nuts. A bunch of guys are trying to desert. So Kalen just starts, like, wasting them. You know, like anyone tries to desert, it's going to be shot. I mean, to be fair, these guys went, these guys took on the fucking Cuban army.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And then Kalin, him and a bunch of white mercenaries under his command, They were captured and they were put on trial in Luanda. And, you know, the famous mercenary trial. A couple of those guys were Americans. One of them was this kind of this real sad case. He was a nom vet.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know, he, uh, some, I think he was from upstate New York or Pittsburgh. You know, he'd add just all kinds of problems, supporting his families that's coming back from Nam. You had a wife and a bunch of kids lived in some white ghetto. You know, so he signs on to go to Angola, basically to feed his family. He's only there like a few days. He gets captured. He gets sentenced to death. You know, boom, firing squad.
Starting point is 00:22:59 This other dude who was just a kid. He was, he was, um, they lot, he, they spared him, but presumably because of his youth. But he, he did like nine years in Angolan prison. And then when he came back home, soldier of fortune, which was a great magazine back in the day. They did a whole interview with him, which was fascinating. I remember when I was a kid, I read it. And I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But Callan himself, you know, he knows he's facing the death penalty. And he'd been shot in the leg, so he's on crutches. And Callan was Greek. He was a Greek Cypriot. Colonel Callan was an alias. There was some show about some bad ass commando named Colonel Callan. So Callan took that on as his moniker. But so he's this guy, he's just like wiry kind of little guy.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Very ethnic looking. But with like a thousand yards stare, he like hobbles up to the lecture and he says, you know, he's like, I just want to say. And this is what I'm going to say. He's like, these men here, they were acting under my orders. They didn't do nothing wrong. I don't care if I get shot. That's all I got to say. I think that's a real man.
Starting point is 00:24:20 You know, like he, I mean, Piper said the same thing. Piper said at the doggout trial. He said, I'll plead guilty to whatever you want. You know, I'll plead guilty to killing Christ if you want me to do under two conditions. You give me the firing squad and you let my men go. You know, so see, what do you want about Kellen? Like, he was a beastly war criminal. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:24:39 He fell in his sword and made a good faith petition to let, let the other men go. And I mean, that's, um, it's easy to throw shade on that, but people, I don't think people understand how unsettling it is to be in court. I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:58 obviously, I've never ready to endure anything where my life was on the line. I can't even imagine being in capital jeopardy. But if you're looking at being sent away to prison, you know, and you're looking up at the judge who holds that going to power over you, it's, it's pretty horrifying,
Starting point is 00:25:14 man. and you know guys will play tough and say that doesn't shake them up it's like you're like incredibly stupid then you're lying you know but that's it's a scary thing man and you know for calend uh you know not the broken psychologically um and he had his sister really loved him and his sister went to visit him and she saw him i think 48 hours before he he died before he you know he was executed by firing squad
Starting point is 00:25:44 You know, she said he was at peace. So, yeah, I've always had, I mean, I got to something with a double. I was, I relate to, I relate to bad guys, obviously, but I found talent to be an inspirational person. But it's also, too, you know, I mean, back then it, there was no private military contractor structure that was corporatized. where you could, you know, where you're getting paid. I mean, don't mean, don't mean, despite what Hollywood says, mercenaries don't get paid much these days either, but at least, you know, it is a steady paycheck
Starting point is 00:26:26 and you can, you can bank on, you know, $500 a day or something. You know, back then, like, you weren't getting paid shit. You didn't have any, you didn't have any logistical or structural support. You know, you had, obviously, you had no rights in the Geneva Convention. If you were captured, you know, obviously, the government that contracted you or the entity that contracted you
Starting point is 00:26:52 would deny any knowledge of your existence I mean you know Callan and when Calan Rappies who survived said that he wasn't British but he's like look he's like basically like you know British intelligence approach this guy sent him on this like suicide mission
Starting point is 00:27:10 and he didn't have to go I mean he did it it's like they they should they should treat this guy like a hero you know, um, they asked him. He didn't ask them. And I, I basically agree, you know, that I got a lot more respect for, like, Callan than these fuckheads who, uh, you know, sign up to serve Zog and, you know, make it into like this, like, tough guy brand or something.
Starting point is 00:27:35 That's, that's a fucking joke, you know? Like, uh, Calan didn't do it either for clout or for money or anything else. He, I mean, apparently, uh, I mean, apparently, he, I mean, apparently he believes. believed everything he said about, you know, fighting, fighting the communist menace. You know, and people, at the time, you know, all through the 70s, like, it shows you know, like disengaged media is always bad. It's not, there was a, like, when the Angola thing happened,
Starting point is 00:28:08 and later when things jumped off in Nicaragua, you'd have these AP types and these Time magazine types, saying like, oh, look at these, you know, look at these dysfunctional retrograde men who don't realize that, you know, we don't, we don't think about the communists anymore being a threat. It's like, well, in the third world, they certainly were, man. You know, I mean, it's, I, um, I don't, it's, and I mean, that's the whole, one of the reasons I push back, too, on, on people invoking that paradigmatic language.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm not just trying to be pedantic, but the three worlds paradigm, one of the reasons why it had intellectual weight back then is because there was radical differences between these spheres of influences. You might as well have been on a different planet. You know, and that's not the way things are
Starting point is 00:29:06 under globalism. I mean, first of all, there's not the there's not the the military and political conflict diet that gives rise to devising a paradigm like that
Starting point is 00:29:21 to understand power political realities but it also in more than metaphorical terms it made sense the the behind the Berlin Wall was a very different world than you know in Western Europe, the United States or Japan and
Starting point is 00:29:38 being in sub-saharan Africa or being in Cambodia or being you know in in Nicaragua was totally different than being you know in the East Block
Starting point is 00:29:49 or being in the United States you know it's everything from the way and then in terms of cultural habits and people's ideas on on authority and things you know from everything from like the brand of soft drinks
Starting point is 00:30:03 and cigarettes that were around you know the way the way traffic signals were devised. It was like I said, like a different planet. You know, it's,
Starting point is 00:30:12 uh, I, um, I think that I think a lot of people don't understand that. But that, uh, well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:22 there are so many narratives going around that the cold war wasn't even real that, you know, there was no tension anywhere and that, anything that happened in central America was totally because, um, you know, American,
Starting point is 00:30:36 the Americans wanted to, um, you know, just inslave. the Indio or something like that. I mean, everything just turns into something really simplistic. And then once you realize that, you know, yes, the Soviets did have world, you know, have world ambitions. It's like, okay, well, that changes.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. And I don't think it's not a great movie at all. It's, there was this move, there was a mini-series called America, M-E-R-I-K-I-K-I-N. with Chris Christoperson. And basically, the framing device is that it takes place in like a then, like 1997. The music got in 87. I remember washing it with my mom and dad. But the framing device is that basically the entire world has gone red.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You know, the EU basically quit the Cold War. So the Soviet Union has hegemonic influence. in Europe, you know, basically south of Mexico became this massive communist block. You know, sub-Saharan Africa became totally communist. You know, Japan fell. So America became this garrison state in a communized world. And then the Soviets, they want, they airburst this massive nuclear warhead. And the subsequent EMP pulse basically pulls the plug on America's.
Starting point is 00:32:10 control, but also any and all, you know, technology that could facilitate retaliation. So they basically force America to the table by saying, you know, if you don't come to terms, we're going to follow up with, you know, a massive countervalue strike and kill 80 million people. So, so in other words, America superficially continues to exist. but it's for all practical purposes they're they're like this client regime of the Soviet Union
Starting point is 00:32:48 and like I said it's not it's not a good mini series but framing device well it's free on YouTube I just found it I shared a link in the chat so oh okay but it Chris Kistarves
Starting point is 00:33:01 I made a lot of really bad movies he made this horrible movie called Millennium I remember and uh he wrote some good songs though that he was really he's super prolific too. Like he wrote a bunch of, he wrote like a ton of music
Starting point is 00:33:12 that I didn't even know that he wrote. But yeah, he made a bunch of really bad movies. But as it may, that, that, that, you want to say that that was the danger
Starting point is 00:33:20 of the Cold War. And that's, those are the stakes. It was to determine how global is going to be configured. And, um, it's very easy to imagine.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Like, don't get me wrong. Presuming a war so up egg victory in the third world as I described. America is blessed with about half the planet's natural resources remain in America. That was Hitler's calculus and he was right. End of this day, that's true. America would be far less wealthy, obviously,
Starting point is 00:33:57 but people wouldn't have been starving. And you just basically, like, there would be no luxury items, as we know it, the consumer market would probably be somewhere like something like it was in 1940s, you know, and shit like that. America would make really, really good machines, American autos and probably still be coveted and stuff like that. There'd be way more of a workshop economy. But the point being, basically foreign travel would be kind of unheard of.
Starting point is 00:34:30 You know, there'd be this constant danger of the southwest. being overrun I mean you know in a way that was you know directly military you know owing to the the sort of ebb and flow of
Starting point is 00:34:48 failing and failed states within that wider constellation of countries it would not be a world most people would want to live in okay you know I said as somebody who thinks the cold war shouldn't have been fall
Starting point is 00:35:05 but people don't understand the stakes. But then again, like, the Heelots still don't understand that globalism happened. I mean, it's incredible. But this is why they shouldn't, they shouldn't attempt to, you know, to punch above their weight.
Starting point is 00:35:21 This isn't for them. They, apparently they're incapable of understanding it. But, yeah, I, I was probably about 12 when that series premiered, but, I mean, obviously, I always had a Cold War on the, brain as a kid to the household they grew up in.
Starting point is 00:35:37 But I remember thinking when I was watching that series of my folks, like, yeah, a lot of things about this are stupid, but I found a premise intriguing even back then. You know, but it's about the age when you start, when you start thinking about the world critically, like you're confused because you're like, you know, when you're like 12 or 13 years old, that's when you first start becoming like a man or a woman. you're like, you're messed up and horny all the time and always thinking about girls and stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:09 But you definitely don't have anything like a man's mind yet, but you also are trying to realize that, you know, there's complexity as the things that you didn't realize before. It's a weird and kind of scary age to be, but it's also, I don't know. I maintain the stuff, the stuff you get into when you're a kid, I'm not talking about like manchild
Starting point is 00:36:34 fuckheads who like are still into like you know Pokemon or something at age 40 or like collecting transformers when they're six years old I'm talking about like in broad strokes like the stuff you thought was cool when you were like 12 or got into
Starting point is 00:36:49 that's the stuff that holds up and it's actually cool you know and I'll sell die in that hill you know people get into dumb stuff on their teenagers that's you know trivial and sort of fled but the stuff that really grabs you and you're becoming like a man or a woman
Starting point is 00:37:09 and psychologically it's like okay there's a reason why it makes an impact on you you know um and I suppose there are I suppose the punitive rebuttal would be that I'm I'm just an immature man who's into weird things and I mean maybe that's true too but I
Starting point is 00:37:23 maintain that it's there's some truth of what I allege in that regard but um to uh Oh, one of the guys in our subsect chat, we got into a discussion because I dropped a quote from Yakim Piper, and we started talking about that.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And the man himself and the unusual circumstances of his death, you know, many, many years after the war. and one of the guys asked if I do a discussion of Yacquem Piper. And yeah, that's a great idea. Specifically, there's two major aspects. I'm not as much of a military hound as some people think. I mean, I discuss military stuff as it relates to the wider ideological struggle of World War II and stuff. but um i that the the points of emphasis on a discussion of piper to me that are most compelling are
Starting point is 00:38:35 the dockout trial which was far more corrupt than the nuremberg trial it was it was a it was a joke just the degree to which hash was made with due process and the prosecution team under this fool named burton ellis during a they were literally spying on the defense and stealing documents and things like this incredibly bad for faith, but the Doc-out trial, as well as Piper's murder and how that came about in Travee, France, or Traves.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I never know how to pronounce French words, despite the fact I got a Frenchy surname, but Huguenots aren't real frogs, you know, where, like, ankle-saxonized frogs. Like, like, literally, you know, like, there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of
Starting point is 00:39:23 Ulster men and and Afrikaners and, and, you know, the reformed diaspora is full of Huguenots, but like me. But what I'm getting at is I would like to have that discussion on your show if you would be amenable to that. Just because it seems like a better fit. Yeah, okay, good deal. We'll talk about, we'll call it the life and wars of Yakim Piper. And yeah, so let me know when you be amenable.
Starting point is 00:39:59 to that. Anytime. Yeah, yeah. We're recording tomorrow. Yeah, let me think about. I'll let you know about later this evening. If that's what I'm going to cover because I, there's some,
Starting point is 00:40:14 I got all the, I got the Danny Parker book that I want to refer to when I got a bunch of, I got a bunch of stuff from the dockout trial on, on my hard drive. But my, my, um, my energy levels aren't real great today. Like, we'll definitely record tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:40:32 but if I start feeling like fate and stuff, I don't want to have to take out a bunch of research. But I'll let you know about later this evening. But yeah, thanks, man. I figured you'd be a medable today, but I didn't want to be presumptuous. And that had occurred to me before, but the mind-veyser pod is kind of its own thing.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I mean, the focus of the mind-invizor pod is the topics that I discuss with guests. I kind of want to like, I like it being an interview show, you know, I appreciate the fact that you want to discuss historical topics with me, but it just seems like a better fit. Moving forward, I stretched out the season three of Mind Phasers
Starting point is 00:41:20 because I was kind of changing things around and how I did content. For season four, a Mind Phaser, I may start maintaining about half of the episode, It's sort of like the interview format. I might start dealing more with sort of like discrete historical topics or the kind of stuff I deal with with you and with burden on your respective platforms. Like I haven't decided yet. But for right now, it helps me out big time that you guys avail your platforms to me in that. Of course.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Of course. Yeah, Piper and the Blow Torch Battalion. That's right, man. Yeah. No, Piper was a great. Man. Yeah, Nessa says dudes with action figures
Starting point is 00:42:15 and funco pops. Instead of tools or books or guns and useful shit. Yeah. Yeah, their future long pig. Except, like,
Starting point is 00:42:24 those guys probably don't taste good, though. Like, you want, you want, like, young women or babies in terms of long pig.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Because, like, pretty women taste good and, like, babies are chubby, and they're, like,
Starting point is 00:42:33 meal. Like, I don't want to eat some, like, fucking, some, some, some, like,
Starting point is 00:42:36 goons, some, some, like, goons, some, goon who's, , have these shoesers. You're talking about long pig.
Starting point is 00:42:44 What I want to do is like regime criminals, like Ted Cruz and Lindsay Ram. I got this idea from Prince Johnson because speaking of a soldier of fortune. This one guy was embedded in Liberia when Prince Johnson had just over there on Samuel Doe. And Johnson, he had Doe's ears removed
Starting point is 00:43:05 and then he had them cooked. And then he had his ears like, he had Samuel Doe's ears forced fed to him before he sent to the firing squad. Like that's a, that's a punishment that is going to be,
Starting point is 00:43:19 um, availed to regime criminals. But, um, yeah, I don't know how we got on this topic of long pig. It probably, it's probably kind of dysfunctional. I don't know how shit just pops in your head.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Well, you know, the place, my, my home from home, uh, the landmark, um,
Starting point is 00:43:41 people uh i mean there's great the staff there treats me like family and they got great food and i get a lot of work done there and like it gets me out of the house and you know uh gets me social i mean i'm very blessed man like i i talked to all the fellows and the people in our cadre but um especially if you know you're not in great health when you're an older single guy it's kind of important interact with people so like i you know i interact with people there and uh they got some really pretty waitresses there. That's why it's always a big hit when I post pictures. Look at the girls there.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Who's that girl? I'm like, look, you know, don't be crude, you gentlemen. But this one, like pretty Burnett girl. And we were, uh, she, uh, she asked me for a movie recommendation. And she made the point that she liked no, country for old men. And I'm like, no, it's an awesome movie. I'm like, hey, have you, like, seen the road? And she's like, no.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So she watched it. And she's like, oh, my God. That movie's so scary. It starts talking with the cannibalism scene You know, and I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, you got to be really careful That happens because I'm like, you're like a prime cut You know, I'm like, you're like a young, beautiful woman
Starting point is 00:44:50 I'm like, you got just the right ratio of fat to like lean meat And she looked at me like I was like a maniac Yeah And like Like my wife's a little bit drunk But then like three days later I'm in there And I overhear talking this other waitress So I know and she's like
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah, so like and then Thomas was talking about eating me And then the wages like starts laughing you're like, no, no, not like that. Like, literally like, like, like, eating me, like food. And they, like, both turned and looked at me like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Well, let me ask you. This came out a couple days ago about the ACLU,
Starting point is 00:45:26 funding people to infiltrate, like, National Alliance. And I mean, a lot of this shit went back to, like, the 90s. Oh, yeah. Did you see that? No, I didn't see that, but I mean, I know that to be true. Yeah. Apparently, they had somebody, And like the DOJ is supposed to be taking it up a case against them for this.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I think money laundering, they're calling it or something like that or just, you know, some kind of weird, some kind of like bullshit Al Capone type charge. But is, you know, basically the new, the new narrative is that white, white, identity, people for white identity, and are, it's all, it doesn't exist. It's always been funded by the ACLU now. So, so, so, so Robert Matthews was knocking over banks and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, apparently, yeah. Um, they're also tying into, A. I don't, I, saying, oh, everybody who, who, who's, who's speaking out against AI, that's also funded by that's also something that's
Starting point is 00:46:45 you know, being paid, they're being paid to do things like that. I mean, and people don't understand, they don't understand how NGOs work and they don't understand the media apparatus and the sort of interdependence between officialdom and nominally private media. You know, that's what
Starting point is 00:47:05 that's what Burnham was talking about with respect to what he called the managerial state. And Seyright Mills, who I cite a lot, despite the fact that he was, you know, left wing. But he wrote this book, The Power Elite that describes that sort of constellation of forces. But like, Normies don't understand this. So they develop this idea that everything is this conspiracy of secret organizations funding things. It's not just not the question of money either. That's not really what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That's part of it. But when we talk about, we talk about Soros, Inc. we're talking about an aggregate of very powerful NGOs. I'm sorry. I think I said the ADL, but it is the Southern Poverty Law Center. Okay. My mistake.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I'm sorry. No, no. But it's a constellation of very powerful NGOs, like the CFR, like the Ford Foundation, stuff like that. Elite institutions,
Starting point is 00:48:07 you know, like the IVs, that quite literally, the, you know, sort of groom and condition people to be slotted into elite roles. These people then, you know, their sources of funding are well known, like who the approach to solicit for that funding. It's well known who's sympathetic and who's not. There's always people in government on the federal bench or in the U.S. Senate who are impossible
Starting point is 00:48:41 to remove, who, in turn. and also grease the skids in policy terms. You know, and then some of these NGOs, they'll set up shop, you know, in Serbia or in Angola or in Ukraine. And they'll basically be available to limitless resources to pursue political projects that are essentially paramilitary or, you know, in, you know, subversive in nature, like on their face.
Starting point is 00:49:15 You know, and it'll be presented as, you know, some way of maintaining good offices with, with the people who represent, you know, the political apparatus on the ground there. Like, that's what it is. It's not guys rubbing their hands together and saying, I'm going to create a fake white nationalist organization to, you know, convince people that, to adjunct against the governments, that then I have a pretext for, you know, some sort of broad-based crackdown by police elements
Starting point is 00:49:48 I mean that's not how things work you know and it the SPLC also is a joke it's literally a punchline like even like all but the most literally senile boomer shitwibs like laugh at it
Starting point is 00:50:03 you know and more as a D's himself literally he was literally a con man he defended a bunch of clan guys in the 50s and 60s and then when that became no longer politically viable. He became this direct marketing shill
Starting point is 00:50:17 and he took a bunch these mailing lists that he got from his working direct marketing and he set up his own charity whereby and because he knew
Starting point is 00:50:31 the kind of workings of the clan and that kind of pro-to activism in and now because he'd been their lawyer he suddenly started to you know
Starting point is 00:50:37 he started producing his direct mailings and sending him to you know 80 year old Jews in Miami Bee saying that, you know, there's a Nazi movement in America and it's going to take over unless, you know, you send me your, unless you let's see, unless you send me your money, you know, and then he, um, and then his, you know, he's raised on debt where he came going around suing people. Um, and, uh, there, what's, what's really insidious is ADL because they, they train police departments. They hassle people and threaten people while holding them, holding themselves out as the police. incredibly illegal stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:14 You know, they spy on people and then they feed that information to police agencies who wouldn't be able to acquire that information otherwise because, you know, they the Fourth Amendment precludes
Starting point is 00:51:30 them doing so in, you know, with a free hand and stuff. You know, they're really dangerous and, um, let's like I told people too, that I, I'm not I'm not speaking to the substance of the case against Chauvin, which had no substance, but that stupid, like a neon neck move that Chauvin did to Floyd, he learned that from,
Starting point is 00:51:52 that does an IDF thing. And, uh, oh, lo and behold, you know, the Minnesota flatfoots are trained by ADO. Hmm, that's interesting. Like, no one can explain, like, why that makes sense, but, um, you know, there you have it, but. Yeah, they, um, the DOJ broke it down like this. National Alliance affiliate got paid a million plus, area nation affiliate, 300,000 plus,
Starting point is 00:52:17 someone at Unite the Right, 270,000, former National Alliance chairman, 140,000 plus, former KKK member, 73,000 plus, American Front President, American Front President, 19,000 plus. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. What, Matthews, the Ukiy, robbery was the biggest
Starting point is 00:52:42 termed car heist in history Pierce did get a cool million out of that I mean, so what? So the SPLC has bank robbery crews now. They're a, but Bob
Starting point is 00:52:57 Hike, the American front guy, a bunch of his rapies did a hard time behind hate crimes. So the SPLC guys now go to prison behind hate crimes now to like keep up the rules. That's interesting. I mean, why would listen to anything the Department of Justice says.
Starting point is 00:53:15 That was my, that was a point I made the other day and of course, well, they're talking to make any sense. All the plan, all the plan truesters are like, oh, this is a win, this is a win. I'm like, this isn't an announcement. What's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, so, so, so these, um, so so these, um, so these Zionist NGOs, Again, they, they commit hate crimes and terrorist activities to fool people into believing that there's some sort of right-wing insurgency element.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I mean, that's, that's, that's, um, that's like PizzaGate level shit. Or that's QNon level shit. So, no, I don't, I don't follow that stuff. Plus, too, I mean, don't get me wrong. The FBI under Cash Money Patel and the Department of Justice, I mean, these people are like literal fucking morons. They've got like the minds of retarded children. But I also guarantee you that these QAnon types and these fagga guys are like totally misinterpreting what the announcement was.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And like they, and like I guarantee you also like DOJ didn't actually say that. So, I mean, there's that too. You know. The administration right now is like full of drunks. The labor secretary. She just got friggin, she just is being. investigated because from what I understand, and this probably won't come out publicly, but I heard this from somebody behind the scenes. She was pulling in frigging, um, um, um, frigging volunteers to run,
Starting point is 00:55:09 run a train on her in her office and everything like that, drunk all the time. Everyone up there is like having is on pills, is drunk, is having illicit sex with everyone else. The interns, or, I mean, it's, it's, no, but, but Pete Hegseth is owning the libs because he's got like pretty beach muscles and we're all, we're all jealous of him. Like that, that, that, that's what you got understand. And like, every, we're, we're, we're all jealous of, we're all jealous of fagga guys who, like, suck each other's jayons with like gang bang and these, like, gross hookers they work with. I mean, it's, it's a complete joke. It's, like, Trump makes, Trump's announcements are basically five minutes before friends of his are like shorting the market or getting into the market
Starting point is 00:55:57 I mean it's just it's your typical it's like a fucking um it's like a bumper sticker that's like you know they're just looting the treasury the last act that a in an empire is to loot the treasury kind of thing well no 100% and that's you know that's why um well i mean i you realize that but that's just that's just liberal talking points. So, you know, I mean, I'm just a liberal. Even if, I mean, even if even if even this, even if even this, even if even this, even if even this, even if even this, evenish, even upright, aside from the gross evil of their ideological commitments, you know, you realize you're dealing with natural slaves in terms of the population at large. And it was the body politic. Because these people can't, they can't imagine, they can't imagine existing without this bureaucracy lording over them and without the police and like, they're not. That's why I call him whinoes. They're not white men.
Starting point is 00:56:54 They're diggers. They really are. Like I, this guy, I think he's doing God's work. He's, he's a big pro-gun guy. He's not some liberal in the conventional sense, despite his handle. He called himself civil rights attorney. And he's talking to his police abuses, the only majority of which are against white people, you know, who are marginalized or they're homeless or because they're
Starting point is 00:57:18 elderly or because they're addicted, or just because they're poor. and like nobody really cares what happens to do them. But, you know, like, he's constantly making the point when these people, like, call him a piece of shit. He's like, why, why do you think you need the police in your life? Like, why? You can't manage your own affairs? Like, he's not talking about some single...
Starting point is 00:57:37 Because boomers will think you're... Boomers will think you're a Marxist if you'd speak bad about the police. But that's all, that's a little point. And we're not talking about some single woman where, you know, some feral hoodreads breaking into her apartment. and she calls the cops. Like we're talking about adult men who literally think that in a town of 5,000 people, you need like 800 police.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Otherwise, you know, everything's going to go to hell. If you think that way, you're literally a male Karen, you're a she-mail, who's, like, terrified of his own shadow,
Starting point is 00:58:10 you know, and can't imagine, uh, and can't imagine living as an actual adult with agency. You know, this idea that, you know, You know, so I mean, there's that too, like this, you know, like I said, even if, even if Rabbi Trump and these degenerates, even if they were at least superficially morally upright, just the fact that there's like this massive parasite class who do nothing but steal from people and enrich themselves while playing, you know, while playing dress up as if they have some sort of meaningful historical men.
Starting point is 00:58:51 they're not like you're not a you're not a full-fledged adult and you're certainly not a man with agency that attaches to adulthood if that's the way you think they're like well no that's just what's normal we need that you know any anyone with you know a set of balls and a regular testosterone level doesn't see a cop car and thinks oh great i'm safe god thank god they're here no they see a cop car and they roll their eyes Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, well, I mean, the same thing with, let's say anything with the, same thing with the Zog military. Like, why, you know, you're, you're, you're a complete, you're complete fucking heal out if you just like worship the military. I think it's like doing something for you. You know, or that it's anything but, uh, a massive grift. Um, you know, and these people are, they're, they're just a periscise. as these as these criminal-minded hudder ass they're not any difference there's zero difference between them you know they're they're just white niggers and not black niggers
Starting point is 01:00:03 you know i and i'll die on that hill and you know whatever but that's why that's reason number six a million why we don't want anything to do with with normies you know i mean i can't believe i'm still letting to explain that i mean not not to you obviously to the subs but I'm not running for office or a Jehovah's Witness who needs to convince a million Normies of the truth of my position. Like if you think that it's like not only not one of us, you're not on side, you're the opposite of what we're into. You know, it's like just go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I, uh, it's the whole light. It's like you realize that normies are waiting to be told what to do. That's all they are. They're waiting to be told what to do and what to believe. Yeah, they can't manage their own lives and affairs, and that's why, well, it's why you realize, too. I mean, Nalti was right based on everything he said, but, you know, when he talked about the war of doing the States, he wasn't just making a point about people's conceptual horizon and what was under attack in the midst of Lincoln's War. but you know this idea of traditional America diverse as it was of opinion ideology everybody from Daniel Shays to Jefferson to Robert Lee to Hamilton
Starting point is 01:01:35 understood we're going to live freely here as white men with agency you know we're not going to turn this into a giant plantation where everybody's an equal slave you know but that's I mean that's that's the way you gotta look at it like that's what happened you know
Starting point is 01:01:57 and uh that that's why that's why any um like any let's not the problem with Wignatz too like any white man I meet as a whino until he proves otherwise you know um and then that's just the way it is but uh i um i don't mean to be abrupt i'm gonna raise up
Starting point is 01:02:22 because we've been going for like an hour and i got to i got to record of you guys later which is great but um yeah we recorded an hour actually oh is it okay yeah i definitely do i could remember it's an hour or two hours it's uh yeah it's an hour yeah oh yeah okay yeah it's 2 p.m thomas time so yeah all right thank you subs um Yeah, and like I said, I'm sorry if you're in kind of a slub with fresh content, but... No problem. It's my energy levels haven't been great. But all right, thank you, Pete.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I appreciate you doing this and sort of the subs, and yeah, we'll convene again in like an hour, I guess. Yeah, and so we're recording the Inquisition. Yeah. All right. Be well, everybody.

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