The Pete Quiñones Show - Live with RealThomas777 - 04/30/26

Episode Date: May 2, 2026

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It seems like sometimes it takes a minute from my video to kick in. There we go. Ah, there you are. Yeah. I got my hair I got today. See you're fancy. Yeah. Yeah.

Spippy. There's this Colombian guy who cuts my hair. He's pretty old. You know, and like I said, I generally seek out Spanish or Japanese barbers. Because they know how to cut hair, particularly if you got, you know,

like long straight hair. But, sometimes dude's not at the shop and he doesn't inform anybody. So like all of his daughter fill in for. I mean, generally I don't let women cut my hair because I think it's kind of weird and improper. But I like this dude and I like this family and she does a good job. But she's about my age.

And she's like, well, preserved, man. You know, how like Spanish women kind of make everything horny when it doesn't need to be? Like, she kind of does that. And,

uh, I mean, obviously, like, I'm old, so it's not, like, women fall in themselves to sweat me, but, like, strippers and old Spanish broads, they seemed to, like, if I was prone to sin, that'd be my demographic, it seems like. But she did a good job. You're a life for being, that you're like to be a little now. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's in the two things that I've noticed, um, stand out in the comments. crisis. People don't know how to mix drinks anymore. There aren't like mixologists and people don't know how to cut hair anymore.

One of the reasons I like the Trump Tower rooftop bar. It's not because I want to hang around in some property owned by the rabbi. But it's actually a really cool hotel. And the rooftop bar, they've got some of the best bartenders in Chicago.

And they make really, they make a really great decorate. They change the, they change the cocktail menu up a lot. But in the summer months, they make a frozen blue Dacquerie and it's to die for um Arthur and his wife had a I will be there. I will be there in September and find out of which Thomas Wayne Riley hit me up and uh he's like out in

like cowboy country and he said he's going to come here for my birthday bash too. That's awesome. That's like really blowing up man. There's a good, sort of like a planning committee around it and I didn't realize that. That makes me feel very happy man. Um, And yeah, it'll be fun. But also, I'm stoked that people actually give a fuck about my birthday. Like, that's pretty awesome. But I, I'm proud of myself for meeting it to 50 years.

Like ordinarily, that's like a retard flex, like, just managing to stay alive. But in my case, it ain't no small thing, man. So, yeah, I want to, I want everybody to have a lot of fun. And the rooftop bar is always, always a blast. but I was blessed last weekend Arthur and his wife had a sore for dinner and I mean Arthur

like works as a bartender so he like made me some really good martinis and I've become sold in martinis man like I never I never disliked them but I that restaurant that's right by the house of blues

in Marina City it's called like the Tori this, I think, you know, a mutual friend of ours. That's a place that he really likes. And so he was kind of the take meter. He's taken me there a couple of times. And there's two like signature drinks they have that are incredible. One of which you got to ask for because it ain't on the menu.

It's like an inside hack. But they've got a vodka martini and they drop a blue cheese stuffed olive in it, which is really fire. I don't really go for blue cheese because I think it's weird. but the flavor profile really works with the vodka martini. Yeah, I love blue cheese. I love blue cheese olives. And they are, I've had them before in a,

in a sort of martini, not a real martini. And considering how often I'd carry a Walter PPPK, I really should be drinking martinis more often. Well, it's interesting because I was going to raise that about Bond. There's a, you know, you never ever want to shake a martini because there's a deline.

favorite profile and the malefiel of martini if it's mixed properly is really really silky you fuck that up entirely if you shake it you never shake a martini so that's goofy um and uh i think too i i i got a couple of the i inflameic paperbacks i read a few of them in high school and i one of the few people who actually really likes moon raker like the movie i think it's cool. So when I was like 16, I bought the paperback, which is a lot different than the movie, but it's still good. But I think in Moonraker, it makes reference that Bond drinks vodka martinis, which is weird for like a Britisher, you know, because a proper martini is, you know, gin martini and gin's the national spirit of England. But Bond is, the Bond character is supposed to

be a Scotsman. So maybe that's Right. Yeah. And that's... In Casino Royale, he basically what is a Vesper Martini, it's three measures Gordon's gin, one measure vodka, and half a measure Keenolet. So, yeah,

that's... I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, Casino Royale is actually really good. The rest of those Daniel Craig movies are awful, but I'm in the minority. My favorite Bond movie of all time is licensed to kill. and Timothy Dalton is the most true to form Bond character. Like Sean Connery, obviously, he's the most iconic actor to play Bond in the movies. But Bond is written by Ian Fleming as like Timothy Dalton.

He's something about, he's like a homicidal maniac. And he's this very, very jaded, you know, intelligence service assassin. And I thought Timothy Dalton played that really well. and Leisneville's dope. It's got a young Benito del Toro. It's got like Miami Vice vibes because before Bonn ends up in Mexico, like taking down the cartel. And when he gets to Mexico, he's like hanging around Spanish villas in his tuxedo. But before that, he's running around Miami dressed like Sunny Crockett.

And he's blasting people with a Mac 10 and stuff. you know and uh which one is that license to kill the um what was i going to say um what did he drive in that i can't remember i can't either it was uh i think the the they featured release for part of an acid murder and m g i think because i would remember it was something else i haven't seen it in many moons but that's my favorite Bond movie. But I don't remember if it was something if it was something Bond exotic, I'd

remember. The grossest of front was Pierce Brosman. Like, Bond's an Irish guy who drives a BMW. The fuck is that. Might as well make him a fucking homo. You know, I like, having played by, like, Wesley Snipes and be gay. You know, like, how the Bond can't be

fucking Irish. Like, I'm not trashing tags, I'm just saying. Like, Bond can't be Irish. It'd be like Michael Collins being a fucking, being played by John Cleats, you know. But, um, he goes to, G,

if I got syphilis from the black shit, I, I, to be fair, I think, like, Bond probably is always, like,

packing, like, frightening organisms and his balls, considering, like, how he gets around. Like, Bond does a lot of things

you really shouldn't be doing with his penis, man. Like, um, like, I'm not some kind, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, as part of, like, the, as part of,

like, the proddy team. I'm like, I got to condemn Bond for, like, acting like a fucking Italian. It's like, what's wrong with you? We don't do that shit. Yeah, we don't. The meds are, um, the meds, yeah, they have no self-control whatsoever. No, exactly.

I mean, that's why we like, um, because, you know, I, uh, like, a, uh, like a Latin guy, uh, or, you know, an Italian guy, like, didn't like pussy and didn't like to eat too much. I'd be like, what's wrong with you? You know, I rely on them to do that. It's like they rely on me to be, like, uptight and stuff. but yeah, Bond definitely is a, Bond, bond definitely has like some bad stuff going on

but a little waste, but, um, you know, uh, yeah, and the, Timothy Dahl and unfortunately only started in two movies. The Living Daylights was dope also. That's where Bond ends up in Afghanistan.

Um, and so one of the, like a framing device, like the last third of the movie is, you know, the Soviet war in Afghanistan and he clicks up with the Moushaddin and stuff. But Olivia, Dabo. She was a real piece of ass, man.

She was one of the nicer bond girls to look at. But yeah, I was always a Timothy Dalton fan, man. He's been in a lot of strange movies. He was in Flash Gordon. Like, he played like the tree prince guy where, you know, and that's an awesome set piece where you're going to be part of like the tree warrior people. you got to like stick your hand in this log and there's this like pulsating scorpion

that stings you and then you die like it's really weird and at least when I was like when I was a little kid at least they used to show Flash Gordon all the time on early cable

so it was one of those movies I just like watch all the time because it was on and uh the optics of it are are interesting, like, very European. There's like this one of, the way that it pops, it reminds me like Mario Bava's color schemes or something. You know, like Planet of the Vampires,

which is, that's an awesome movie. We should watch that in our movie series. You know, like, and there's, um, shot for shot, there's, um, set pieces that Ridley Scott lifted for alien. Like, I'm not true. That's, it's a proper homage. And like, Alien is awesome. Um, Alien.

is fucking homo, but Alien is awesome. But anyway, the original Flash Gordon movie, when I was a little kid, they'd still run the Flash Gordon comic strip in the Chicago Tribune. And I thought it was cool because it was a, it was throwback, but in a linear way. They still had a, I mean, they're probably like on the eighth artist or whatever, like drawing it by then. but, you know, he was some old guy who knew the guy who knew the guy, who knew the guy who started it. And that was cool when, uh, you know what? I didn't realize.

I didn't realize how old Timothy Dalton is. He's 80. Yeah, no, he was a, that's one of the reasons, um, he didn't last his bond because there was one, bond pictures were kind of failing at the tail end of the Roger Moore era. You know, and then there was that bizarre situation where Connery, started never seen ever again the same year which was like not put out by united artists and then octopussy was put out by roger moore um ua i mean and uh neither one performed really well and dalton was uh yeah he was already in his 40s and then the third

picture he was supposed to do ended up in development of hell and then by the time it got resolved he was he was too old to play bond but uh my my my shirt felt like I got the shark that keeps me company up here and I see but yeah he um what was I gonna say oh and Mr. Sharp's got to chill here because he isn't fit but um no and it was cool uh I guess like some I guess some of the comic strips are still going but they're you know they're just like on line which isn't the same you know and uh I remember my favorite comic strip was Shoe because like shitlabs read

Dunesbury but like bass people read Shoe that was the way it was broke down and Shoe is hilarious because it's all about birds for no reason it's like everybody's just like an anthropomorphic bird and um I uh

I try and uh I try and turn youngsters onto shoe who are into you know comics like politically quoted comics and uh that Family Circus was hilarious too. My pastor, he'd literally cite like family circus periodically.

He was like a humorless man. But Family Circus was like the Calvinist comic strip. So of course, I was like deliberately not funny. I don't know. When I was in high school, I got to chuckle out of Bloom County. Yeah, yeah. And Fred Bassett was pretty funny too, like in a subtly weird way. I, uh, the one, uh, the one kind of internet comic strip I do like, I mean, it's more like a riff than like an IP into itself, but the Jersey, like in the day, Garfield without Garfield.

It's like Garfield comics trips, but Garfield is removed. So it seems like really weird. It's either like John Arbuckle like talking to himself like an insane person or like shit just happening. That seems like existentially disturbing for weird reasons. It's pretty awesome. It's like way better than the, way better than the, like the actual Garfield strip. But, um, no, it was, uh, you know, surprisingly, you know, it was pretty dope, man. Like, believe it or not, until I was in a high school,

I'd follow in the Tribune, um, the Spider-Man comic strip was totally different than, like, the comic book. And, like, the only books that, the only comic books I read, I was a huge fan of Dark Horse comics. Like, the Terminator, dark horse comic was awesome.

Um, Dead World. You know, Vince Locke, he's the guy who does all the cannibal corpse cover art, which is like really, really raw. Um, he did this book called Dead World. And, uh, some sort of interdimensional Eddie gets torn open. And, uh, these legions of the dead pour in, but they're not like Romero zombies or, or something like that. They're like intelligent beings. And they create this like kingdom of the dead.

on earth and they enslave the living. And like they eat them too, but they make them into, they basically like farm them like cattle and stuff. And I'd read that one. And of course, 2000 AD you know, Judge Dredd was

great. I think most people associated with the silliest, in America at least the silly as Stallone movie. But the real 2000 AD comic was where a movie was hardware. That's a great film, man.

We got to watch that on our movie series too. But in the defense of the Stallone Dread movie, it's like a gross miscast, but the set pieces are awesome. And like the ABC Warrior is awesome.

And the set piece is you know, the scene we're like Armanda Sante, he goes to the pawn shop to pick up the lawgiver and then he blows away the pawnbroker and he activates the ABC robot but that scene where he's walking on the street

you know that's all there's no CGI in that there's like a matte painting obviously you know if you know if you know what to look for you can tell it looks pretty seamless and there's like a hundred extras crazy costumes and um that's probably the best cyberpunk cityscape

you know this side a Blade Runner. You know, that film does have some things going for it. I remember I saw it on the big screen and I don't know

an ex of a huge dread fan. I'm like, okay, this is this is shit. But in the other hand, I'm like, but, you know,

these optics are great. What is your, what was your take on like, Guillermo del Toro? I don't have, I know that people have been given high praise to his Frankenstein movie

that just came out. I haven't seen that, though. I'm reluctant to, like, what specific? Remind me of what is major. Did you read the strain?

No. With Carlton, with, you did with Hogan. It's a really, familiar with it. I never read it. They also did a FX mini series on it.

Well, it was an FX multi, they did it for like four or five years. It's one of the more interesting takes on like vampirism. Okay. Did, uh, did, uh, did, uh, did a, the Geron Otero collaborate with Robert Rodriguez,

were I thinking of somebody else? Um, I, huh, that's a good question. It might, huh. I mean, I was just watching that this is on my mind, um, because the other day I was watching from dusk till dawn and, um, like I, I, I always really liked that movie. Juliet Lewis, I was thought Julia Lewis was really beautiful. Um, she looks a lot like our friend Nessa, believe or not. Um, I mean, Vanessa is very pretty too, but, um, there, uh,

Like, I'm not just saying that. Like, it's, uh, she looks a lot like her, which is 40. Um, but, uh, what's her name? Selma Hayek and that is, it looks amazing. Speaking of Spanish broad. Apparently, um, Guillermo, Guillermo, Giorma Dorotoro and Robert Rodriguez, um, collaborated on Mimick.

Yeah, that's right. That's a weird movie, man. Um, that's, it's, that's actually a better creature feature. than most. I thought. It's gross because, you know, it's these like corporal phagia bugs, like these like mega cockroaches, you know? And there's that scene where, like, in the subway, they breach, I guess, which

like the cockroach nest. And there's a human, and like, I really hate cockroaches. This property I worked at had an infestation because those are. this gym in the basement, but it was also a residential premises on the upper floors. And we shared this storage area. And one time, they came pouring out of the walls. It was like in that creep show segment or something. And like cockroaches, I'm not generally squeamish about bugs, but your mind's like

hardwired to find them totally repulsive, like roaches. They're awful. but in that mimic film close to the climax where they're in the subway and you know the mimic uh it's a mimic because it's like found a way to you know some predators develop like a pigmentation pattern or something so they look like something else well his mimic like looks like a person but then like opens up and it's like this disgusting roach and it's like oh my god um but yeah that was pretty cool What about Splice? What did you think of that movie? I can't remember it. Adrian Brody and Sarah Polly. I don't think I've seen it.

I've seen species. It's the film I was thinking of that kind of reminded me of the Cockroachers movie. Do you know the Italian, well, I mean, is American Italian. Vincenzo Natalie? I think so. Cube, Cipher, nothing. Yeah, Cube's all. awesome. I just linked that

the other day on the burden, Beaver Gang channel. Yeah. Yeah. Splice is about, um, the they try to do create hybrids and it just, it goes way fucking south and gets, oh yeah, yeah. I really I've seen it, but I'm familiar with it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah, but I, that, um, Robert, Robert, Rodriguez is in my mind because of from Dustful Dawn. And that's a great movie.

I actually think, um, Quentin Tarantino actually has pretty decent acting shops. And I remember, uh, when I saw that movie, I saw it on cable. Um, for some reason, it wasn't really on my radar,

um, when it hit theaters. But, uh, in the first half of that movie, you think it's just like a heist movie. And I'm like, okay,

like this is a movie about these like high incident bandits and this dude's brother is like a psycho and he's trying to hold it together. But then suddenly there's like, uh, like vampires everywhere and it's like jarred. Yeah.

I knew what it was going to be and I took my ex-wife to it. And, well, not my ex-wife actually. It was my girlfriend at the time. This was way back. And, um,

she's just sitting there has no idea. At that point, she's like, holy shit, what the hell of my wife? watching. I think that's what she said. Yeah. Well, it's awesome, too. He's like Tom Savini's awesome.

Yeah. He's a fascinating guy. And he reminds me of, um, I can't remember if I mentioned this in one of our streams. Growing up, uh, when I was a little kid. My best friend was this guy named Brian Kinney.

He was like this hell-raising guy, like, like Irish guy. Like what used to be called in a lesbian, delegate age of the black irish because he was a real he was like this little mischievous dude with like jet black hair

like he almost if it wasn't for his like washed out pale skin he could have been like Spanish or something but um he loved horror movies so that was like one of things we bonded over and we were like eight nine years old and um so he started doing like

makeup and stuff like he'd flip through like famous monsters and um fan gory on stuff and like imitate like what tom savini and stuff was doing and that's i'm really like eight nine years old like on halloween he'd do his own makeup you know just with like we'd like shoplift those like monster makeup kits from like the variety store then he like raid his mom's like makeup and stuff it was insane and like this one year we go to this Halloween party and we're like 11.

And we know this girl named Jessica Schofeld. And she had a fraternal twin brother named Matt. And he was like really good looking too. Like their mom and dad was really attractive people. And just like as a riff for Halloween, like Brian Kinney, um, he made up Jessica's brother to look like her and the dude like looked like a girl like if shit you not

and uh I mean this kid they were Rick Doring you know like everybody in real life that was some like dirtbag poor kid like Kenny in South Park who's like just like a dirt bag from Joe like Rick Doring

what he saw he's like I don't care man I fuck him Yeah There was always that one guy Yeah yeah But Brian Kinney he went on um like after eighth grade He had kind of a sad home life.

And that's one of the reasons why I like my mom. I'd let him hang around a lot. That's when my mom was sane. You know, because she knew things were like screwy. But he had a dad who was never around. He would like run out in the family. But his dad worked in Hollywood. And so Brian went on.

He did a bunch of the makeup on the Walking Dead. and like in a bunch of horror movies like you'll you'll see him like credited which is dope man because I lost track a dude for you know like 30 years then one time um when I was strung out

uh this girl who was staying with me she like she used to like the Walking Dead you know and um so I guess that's what she'd she watched that and um I you know and sometimes like I'd watch it with her because we were

crashing at this crap house motel. And I see they credit like Brian Kinney for you know like zombie effects. I'm like no fucking way. And then like sure enough I Google him and it's like it's like that dude. You know and uh, I'm like that's freaking awesome man.

But yeah, yeah. And uh, and that's kind of when um, like when I was riffing on Carl this morning like in our chat. Like you took it the wrong way. Like the reason why, uh, I mean, he wasn't like mad or nothing, but you know, when I was asking him about um, the new

job and stuff, you know, and I'm like, I'm anti-job. It's because, uh, whether it is I realize I'm so blessed now, I was like, and just kind of like write stuff and, you know, work on things I think are important because that's what I always wanted to do, you know? And like even like Brian Kinney and I, when, uh, you know, we were doing, when we were doing like little kid's stuff and, you know, like stealing monster magazines and shit and palling around, like we talk about that, like how, we got to find a way to like not have to have jobs and it made me feel good too like once I straightened out that

like we made good on it. We both figured it out like Brian Kinney figured out a way to like make his monsters and I figured out a way to like, you know, heck away on my keyboard man. So I, um, and I've always been a loudmouthed so I figured out how to make a living talking and listen. Well, and I've always been good at listening to other people, you know, talk. And I think that's uh that's helpful you know i read um how to win friends and influence people when i was like 17 years old and the whole point of that book he says is just if you if you want people to think you're a good person and you want to get to people to like you just let them talk just let them talk about themselves oh no there people are vain man yeah and it um i find uh well no

And I make it a point to listen to people. Like, you and Byrden are better interviewers than I am, because that's a real skill, you know, and I always have a guest on the mind phaser pod because I think a give and take is better than just holding forth on a subject matter.

And it also helps me remain focused. But I tend to get, I tend to get really into mental space, especially on my areas of concentration. But I make it a point, I, you know, I,

I make it a point to listen to people and take in what they're saying because, I mean, not just because it's a matter of respect. And I, I don't associate with people who I don't learn stuff from because, you know, that's, it's a waste of time to,

like hang around idiots. It's saying hang around fat girls. Why, what's the point? But, uh, I'm just kidding. Um,

it is, is, I'm a lot of fat girls are nice people. I've actually had people, you know, some people will be like, I love your interview style, you just let people talk, you don't interrupt, you're not like Alex Jones, where every five seconds you have to interrupt and go, I was all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also I've had people be like, well, you know, you should have challenged this person there. I'm like, I'm not going to challenge somebody unless I think they're completely

fucking off base and they need to be challenged. You know, I mean, unless it's, unless it's egregious that, you know, it's like, come on, what the fuck are you talking about. I don't, um, yeah, unless somebody's like flavoringly lying or is doing some performative bullshit. Um, yeah,

people came up with somebody at, Agro when I had E Michael Jones on because, because Jones, uh, sometimes he like tigs out and just become like a fucking big hit Irishman, but also like, but also there's times where,

you know, his, his sectarian prejudice has come out. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to like sit around and like argue like pro wrestling style with some guy who's like saying dumb shit about the reformed faith. I'm just not. You know, and it's like what I'm supposed to say like I'm not going to like change Jones's mind. You know, and I mean, I like Michael Jones.

I'm not trying to see mean things about it. I mean, and he was actually very cool with me. You know, and I, I. It was a good interview. I thought. Yeah, but I, you know. There were a couple of things he said where I would have been like, come on. You know, it's like I mean, you know, I'm like I've always said, I'm probably the most Protestant Catholic anyone ever knows because I can I can recite Calvin and I can recite Gil and I can recite them all because I studied them.

But it's like sometimes he just, it's almost like he's saying stuff to get a reaction at you. And it's like, dude, you're way too old to be doing that shit, you know. No, and I think And on the other side, too, I know, I mean, I know guys within my own tradition who go around like baiting Catholics because, I mean, they're, they're bigoted. And I try not, I'm not, I'm not a bigoted person.

That word's been hijacked. Like, people claim you're like being a bigot if you acknowledge, you know, if you acknowledge ontological realities about who your people's enemies are, it's not what being a bigot is. being a bigot is like, you know, rendering a caricature of somebody's, of somebody's confessional heritage owing to, you know, personal hostility. And that's what he does.

And I think it's a bad look, but unfortunately, a lot of people his age, that's their thing. But it's also, too, I mean, a lot of, I'm not remotely anti-Catholic. I mean, my, the cadre here that treats me so well, are all Catholic. with guys. I mean, because I'm in Chicago. You know, I'm always the minority on the ground, which is fine. It doesn't bother me at all. But I, guys like Jones

also, for as knowledge as he is, about the history of the Roman church and its nuances, he doesn't know anything about he doesn't know anything about, the reformed tradition. He's one of these guys who has this character in his mind. There's this thing called the Protestant church.

And it's represented by some idiot like Donald Trump or some like goofy, lesbian, secular humanist lady who like claims she's a Methodist pastor, but, you know, is running some kind of tax-exempt NGO. And her congregation consists of like two like 90-year-old blue-haired ladies who don't know where they are. You know, it, um, I, uh, there is no Protestant church, you know, and I, well, that was, that became very clear when, um, Tucker, Friar Tuck interviewed some, a guy who had gone to that Paula White's church, that's Trump's spiritual advisor. And there was like no one there. Well, I mean, who, it's like I said, it's like when, um, technically there's a Catholic church in the PRC that is legal where they talk about how like Mao could like make it rain by like waving his hands around or something. Literally nobody goes to that church because your church is the communist party.

And like in America, if you're some weird secular humanist gay lady, the, you know, the regime is your church. Like, why, why are you going to go to, uh, why are you going to go to like a disused building and, like, pretend that, you know, you're engaged in Sunday worship? Well, the regime, nobody's. What people don't, yeah, what people don't understand is, is that the regime is most people's religion now. Well, yeah. I don't know if you, what your opinions are on Caleb Maupin, but, you know, he's, he's true Marxist. I mean, this is, I mean, and he knows what he's talking about. He's not one of these people.

I mean, he can quote Marx. He can quote, and he talks about how he'll go, he'll go to like these quote unquote leftist marches where they're marching for, you know, for like, oh, to mark the pro-Israel march or something like that that's being put on by leftists. and he'll, like, be waving an Iranian flag. And then he said, that's when you realize, he goes, these people who think that they're like revolutionaries are just regime to-todies.

The regime is- Well, that's why, like I said, I don't, I don't understand these system lackeys. Like, they, they insist that there's some sort of rebel element when, like, their whole, their whole tank is, we love the government. We want to arrest people who have dissenting views. You know, I make the point,

like in 1955 like the cops who were like shutting down Elvis concerts for you know what they viewed as agitating lumping elements and you know exciting teenage girls below the waist these cops weren't going around insisting that they were like rock and roll rebels you know like so why does why do like Karens and like these like

she-male regime white niggers like insist that like they're rebels. I don't understand it. It's like it's just like the odds of the reality. It's like you're the, it's like you people like call the police on me and my friends for no reason because you're scared of everything and that's your solution to problems. You know,

I would never ever call the police for any reason. Like that's the difference between me and them. You know, and I don't know why they can't get this through their head. Like it's, uh, you know, um, there are very few reasons to call the police

anymore. And most of them have, most of them would have to do with, like, insurance. Like, well, I mean, any any adult man who, like, yeah, calls the police to, like, manage his problems as, there's something really wrong with them.

You know, but I just, I don't, I mean, it's, it's, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, oversimilifying things, but it's a good litmus test. And, um, for whether you're, like, a system adjacent person or whether you're, you know, outlaw coded. I just don't, like,

the whole um i i just don't understand like the illiteracy these fucking people like it it's you know like i uh john lyden he's uh he's one of these guys like john raydon was who actually like aged in a dignified way and understood that like when you get older things change you know you don't just go around being some counterfeit version of your 19 year old self because that's pathetic but this idea that the punk movement was a bunch of like boozy liberals who love the government like I that's

ridiculous you know so if you're if you're gonna call John Leiden to sell out for saying in 2016 well like really the only you know the only the only the only rebel energy is mine Donald Trump and a bunch of Karens are saying you know that's not punk it's like what punk is being

some like suburban white lady who calls the police on everybody like I really as much as I am I'm a huge fan of the Ramones. I actually display Rockets to Russia over there because I think that's one of the greatest albums of all time.

No, it's solid, man. Yeah. The, um, I think Johnny was the only Gentile in that band, right in the beginning. No, D.D. D.D. Ramon was, uh, he was half German and his dad was, uh, an army. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. And, uh, Mark, Markey was like Greek and Italian or something.

Okay. But I mean, but Joey and, um, um, uh, What the hell was the original drummer? Tommy. I can't believe this. Yeah, Tommy. Yeah, they were, I think they were both tribe. Joe, I mean.

Joy Remort was an interesting guy. Like he, in some ways, like, he was more nuanced than your average. I think, too. I think, I think Joey was from Long Island also. Like, Johnny was, I think, from the Bronx. Johnny was thrown around race. Johnny was Queens. Queens.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but, uh, yeah, but, uh, no, Joey Ramone,

um, I mean, don't, like, don't, like, don't, like, I was, like,

observant, but, like, observant, but, like, observant, but, but he, but he was,

um, you know, the, uh, the, uh, the Ramone, the Ramone,

the Ramones were legit, man, um, um, you know, and they, they, they,

they, they, they, you know that from 19, What's it? You know, from 1979 until the day they died, Johnny and Joey didn't talk to each other, right? Yeah, I don't understand how, I mean, don't get me wrong.

There's always, it's not unheard of obviously, there'd be tensions within bands that were things, you know, just are no longer friendly. It's almost, it's almost like families that are estranged, but still, in all emotional ways, but still live together. But it's truly bizarre. Like, that's why Dedi left the band. It's like, I couldn't handle anymore.

Like, Dini Ramon was always kind of like one of my spirit animals because he was like this huge fuckup. But he was also like, you felt here in the comment says I burned it with Didi a few times back in the day. That's awesome. Yeah, the, uh, well, that's what's crazy. You went down to the Bowery, you could hang out with them. I mean, they would show, yeah, they would show up. One of the reasons why hated in the nation is an awesome documentary.

And it's really weird that there was Todd Phillips. student film. I mean, it's a fascinating time capsule, but also D.D. is in it because the murder junkies, he ended up jamming with him because Merle used to ride his bicycle around Alphabet C. And he just ran into Diti, and he's like, hey, man, like you, you know, my brother and I are,

we're getting a new band together. You got to come jam with us. So Didi's like, yeah, man, he'll do that. And like, and like, we're only at the point later, like not in the hate of the nation, but he's like, he's like, Didi did he does. really realize how famous he was. He viewed himself as kind of as this guy. You know, like, obviously he knew that, you know, he got a lot of respect from people

in the scene and stuff, but he was, he was kind of like a fucking space cadet. There wasn't, like, an actor or something. It wasn't just drugs. I mean, being an addict in the help. But, you know, no, the... He put out a rap album under D.D. King. Yeah, that it's awful. it's uh,

he also got that idea when he was in rehab and like rehab does weird things to people, especially if you're coming off heroin. Um, opiates and especially heroin are more psychoactive than people think. Um, if people get weird when, uh,

that, like, I mean, if you're already kind of screwy like, D.D. Ramone is, like, him deciding, like, yeah, I'm going to become like a white rapper and it's going to like blow up. And like, he had been later, too, like that album made no sense. He didn't know why he did it. But it's pretty funny. But the,

uh, uh, uh, but no, the Ramones are, um, you know, kind of like,

motorhead. You know, they, that's real rock and roll. And, uh, you know, like,

uh, let's do, it's, it's awesome too, like, you know, a lot of the later Ramon stuff, like poison heart.

That some of my favorite stuff they did, man, even though it's like very different. You know, then like rocket to Russia and shit like that. But, you know, they also they, they call it quits in 96 because, you know, like I said, you know, they, they weren't going to

Johnny's like, I'm not, you know, I was going to become some like old guy, you know, like, pretending to be a teenager. And because that, you know, that, that, that would have killed their legacy. Um, I mean, Joey was in real bad health for like the last five years of their moment

anyway and he uh i know people claim that you know he died i think right right around the time he turned 50 i don't know people claim like well we didn't know he was that far gone it's like yeah you did man like the dude uh you know he broke his hip and went in the hospital and then just didn't come out because like his um you know he was he was he he had he he he was fighting cancer and him and he stuff and uh it's kind of amazing thing those last shows you know like when CJ was

touring with them and stuff and I think even a Gala Paloze in 96 I mean they were I mean it was the Ramones they sounded they sounded great you know it's

because I deal with ill health thankfully nothing like cancer but it you know having to be on and just deal with people you know even if

are people you love. Being on the road, it's, it's like exhausting, man. And that's why when I get off the road, I need to take like four or five days and not do anything, you know, because, uh, I just feel really banged up. Yeah.

And, um, and the way, I mean, the Ramones set, except after the lake house, because at the lake house, you could just go. Oh,

that's different. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But it's, uh, but it's not like, and you don't have to be on all the time because

you know everyone there and everything. I'm so glad I went and I'm so, I'm pissed off at myself that I hadn't gone before. I told you man and like I, you know, it's hard. I mean, you know me pretty well, man. It's pretty hard for me to relax. You know, and that's why I've been saying for years, man, that

like the lake is, uh, it's essential to like my psychic and spiritual well-being, man, and it's a blast that, uh, that I was really stoked that you came. Yeah, this last, this was the most, the most guys who've ever showed up and it's uh it's just awesome man you know like we're uh we're like we're like we're like a we're like a family a fraternal society and and and like a rebel army you know um it's pretty awesome and i feel uh blessed that you know the fellows include me in this stuff but i yeah even even when it's uh i mean and i'm lucky that so many youngsts

want to hang out with me. Like I said, when I went to the, on the Detroit trip, which was awesome. Like the Detroit OGC guys, I mean, Detroit is fucking lit anyway.

They're like a bunch of young dudes, and they, they kind of put me through their rigor, man. Well, plus, too, like, I had to prove

that, like, I could drink them under the table, and I did. But, uh, you, you bushmilled them.

You bushmilled them. I bushmilled them to death. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it, uh, yeah.

I want to hang out with the I want to hang out with the New York guys Yeah no that was a blast too man I was thinking about it the other day That was just like an awesome trip But it was a I needed to get away from it Because I was right for it got swatted

Which was awful Um But uh I had a I had an incredible time I mean I I love New York man Like I

I don't know what people throw shade on that's why like my Yankees cap that I got that I got from this like hat stand right by Madison Square Garden because you know like the garden is right by

Penn Station and inexplicably there's a fucking sparrow there how the fuck is there a sparrow in New York City? Oh yeah dude I remember when they opened up when they opened the Chick-fil-A in New York City and the line was literally around the block for like the first couple months. I mean,

look, I'm in the south. I can eat Chick-fil-A whenever I want. It's not that good. No, but at least I understand that for the novelty. It's weird. But Sparrow,

I mean, that's fucking, uh, why would you have that in New York City? It doesn't make any sense of it. But like, Sparrow is also that, Sparrow was just like,

it's just like fucking crap. Like, Like in Chicago, if somebody catches you eating Sparrow, they'll be like, don't ever let me catch you eating that again. It's like getting caught sucking a dick or something. It's ketchup. It's ketchup on cardboard with some friggin grated cheese thrown on it.

It's just, who the fuck does that? Yeah. When you could just go to bleaker pizza and have like the best slice of pizza you can have in New York. I had my friend who I was traveling, who I met out there. We went to the Met,

which was awesome, because this dude and his wife I was staying with, he was doing, like, restoration stuff at the Met, which is really cool. And, like, the Met's a fascinating place. I wanted to take the Pepsi Challenge and compared to the Art Institute, Chicago, they both got everything's going for him.

But in any event, I can't remember the fucking name of it, but, um, Kathy, who I met out there, she wanted to go to this pizza place that was right by the Met that was had like by the slice pizza it was like really good

like no I'm going to be wrong but I'm partial to Shaitown pizza and it's why people think like deep dish is good but that's not generally what people eat here on the regular we eat this stuff called tavern style pizza

the crust is almost crunchy and it's thin, but we eat it in squares. You know? Like, it's cut into, like, little squares. You know, and like, it got its start in bars and stuff. And, but no, New York, New York pizza was dope.

And, I mean, I'm a pizza fanatic. And then I am a New York place. I'm sorry. I'm a New York pizza snob. But I had pizza in Boston and I was impressed. Oh, no. Boston's got great food, man. And, like, the North End.

Italian food is, I mean, this was like over 20 years ago. It's probably different now. But, uh, I, uh, there was this Italian bakery that was just fucking great. And then there was this, um, there was like this hole in the wall, uh, um, like neapolitan place. Which, uh, that kind of like regional authenticity is different than like Chicago Italian food. There's some incredible Italian restaurants here. be like a fusion of like uh like like neopalotin and sicilian and like other stuff you know um my favorite

italian place here is this place called valari it's around uh erie and st clair like in streeterville um i uh i took jerry there and jerry gave it two thumbs up and that's quite an endorsement because uh he's a cultured dude but also he's he's like the of all food critics. But I, people rave about like Rosebud and stuff,

but it, I don't really, nothing wrong with Rosebo, it's only become like a brand. Like now they got a couple of different locations. And it was never, I mean, little Italy hasn't probably existed in fucking decades.

Because it got, it got blasted into pieces by the highway. But, Taylor and, like, and plus two, like,

what, such, I mean, what was the outfit, Heartland was Grant and Ogden. You know, but Taylor and Laughlin is what touristy types call, like, Little Italy. I don't get me wrong, there's some, like, great grub there, but I'll, I'll take Follari over a rose button and he did a week.

We actually, we actually have a pretty good Italian restaurant here in rural Alabama, shockingly enough, about a half hour north of me. I've taken semi-og there I've taken Red Hawk there and they're just I do weird things like showing breadsticks up his nose I just kidding

he was pulling out his two pistols and showing how you if you're going to carry a semi-automatic you have to have a backup that's a revolver because semi-automatic's jam all the time and I'm like he's an alien wizard

well I mean that's the most boomer-coded explanation of guns I ever heard but you know yeah but yeah it's a really good restaurant and I think we're going there tomorrow night well believe it or not man I was talking to Arthur and his wife about this the other day like we went out to

DC we went a fucking blast like back in October went out to DC we met like burden out there but um Arthur Mrs. Arthur and uh one of them white Thai guys like I ended up staying like a house for them white tie guys plus burden which is awesome

like I made breakfast for all the savages And I take pride in my culinary chops, and they were very happy. So that made me feel very self-satisfied. But we drove out to D.C. from Andersonville, you know, where Arthur and Mrs. Arthur live. And after like 15 hours on the road, we were, like, starving. So in the middle of fucking nowhere, in Virginia, we got off the highway,

and it's like random Thai place. You know, and Arthur's wife's like, you want to like risk it. And everybody's like, yeah, like we're really hungry. But this Thai place,

man, was like awesome. And it was like legit, like Thai people running it. It was like a nice place. So I got this like porklo main kind of thing. I got like the,

I don't really like Thai food. So I just got like the chinkiest thing you have in the menu. And I like pork lo mane. because like pigs taste good. You know, and you can't go wrong with like a well-prepared like kind of low-main thing.

And then we got some like vegetable dishes and like shrimp for the table. But this place was like fucking fire. And like Arthur and his wife lived in Thailand. You know, because he was like training with, you know, with some like more Thai masters over there. Like legit. You know, it's like Jean-Claudevindam kind of shit.

but I'm trying to turn him more into Western boxing. Like, on his birthday, I got him a Tommy the Duke Morrison shirt. Because Arthur's like a big white boy with like a fucking killer left hook, you know. He's like a Latin lover type guy. He's not like a woodpile representative like the Duke. But I like seeing big white boys with Tyson-esque left hooks. So I'm trying to get it more. Yeah, go ahead.

Fucking crazy. You were talking about Thai food. It reminded me the best, I'm not, I'm not big on Thai food either, but the best Thai food I ever had was in fucking Reykjavik Iceland. And it was on the end, it was on the end of a rural road, like in the city, like, it's just a little bit outside of a restaurant. And it was, it almost looked like a shack, but they had like two tables in there. and I went in there with my ex. And we're, we're like,

because, all right, Icelandic food, yeah, no, I'm not. They just, like,

eat stuff, like gross stuff, like desicated fish jelly and shit. And brains and shit like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like cow brains.

So they have KFCs and subways everywhere. So I found this. Way is so fucking disgusting. Like, how is that place still open? Like, I literally, like,

I like ate that fucking, it's like literally poo. Like, who the fuck eats that? So I find a random Thai place and the people speak Thai, speak Icelandic, and speak English. That's incredibly random and weird. But that's, well, you know, you know what we got to do sometime? You know, Cody's a wife's family, they, Cody's wedding had a, like, the, probably like the most overall fun wedding I've ever been to was like the burden wedding. I mean,

that was just like a wild time. It was awesome. But it was in the Blue Mountains. And it was just great. I mean, I always have fun at weddings. And I'm honored that I'm kind of like a in-demand wedding guest. You know,

I always have fun. But Cody's wedding at like the best food ever. And, you know, his wife's 100% Italian. And they, her folks run like an Italian restaurant. and it's in striking distance to Kenosha, so it's only,

it's only like an hour and like 10 minutes away from me. I keep on intending to corral some of the fellas into going there, because I, like I said, I've, you know, the catering, I mean, obviously, like, you marry an Italian lady, you're going to have, you're going to have some extraordinary food

at the wedding reception, but, you know, like her dad, like, hooked it up. And, like, I was talking to her, pops. Dude, like, introduce himself, like, everybody, every guest of that wedding. It was a big-ass wedding. Like, I know he'd entertain yourself to me and, like, I mean, who the fuck am I? You know? But, you know, I compliment him. I'm like, you know, you got to congratulate the father bride, you know, and I'm like, thanks so much for inviting me. And I'm like, you know, this food was

like exquisite. He's like, well, you know, not for nothing. Uh, you know, I got the sausage came to my supplier, blah, blah, blah, like, you know, the lique was from blah, blah, So it's like basically like this is the stuff used in his own restaurant. So it's killer, man. And I'm a, I'm a sucker for Italian food. You know, like, it hurts me the next day. Kind of like, when I redo the bush mills, but I like, I'll, like, absorb the pain, you know, and deal with it. Kind of, uh, I'm not going to say that because I was about to say something really crude, but, um, there's a couple of ladies on deck and, uh, plus, uh, it's, uh, it's.

it's still too early to be talking that way. And I don't have the alibi of bushmills at the moment. But this is great. Our dear friend Rob Palmer, he's found the joy. There's the BLT with avocados. Yeah, and he said he made it for his mom and his hands. I went over really well.

Yeah, awesome. But speaking of which, I'm going to raise up in a minute because I'm going to go get a BLT at the landmark. and um I got to uh oh yeah and I at long last uh

the manuscript doesn't fact being wrapped up but the holdup was I mean not a much got done um one second Thomas what town this hell fish you get um oh there was this place in fishtown he was asking what it and um it was this bar um

I took a bunch of photos of it it came on the top of my head but that's some of the Philly contingent came and met me there and I was like really hungry man. So I asked the barmaid and she's like, oh, there's this great sandwich shop that'll deliver here. So

what called an Italian sub in Shytown is different than what they serve me there. Like basically in Chicago, it's salami, baloney, and usually Capacola. Or that's so like these idiots. I'm like the Jupranos called like, Gubu.

It's like, it's Capacola, you fucking Jew fuck but um they uh sometimes they'll uh throw in for shuto some places um whatever they added in there it was just like incredible and um it was almost like a chopped italian was another one of my favorite sandwiches because like the meats were laid conventionally but um the lettuce and um like olives and stuff were like chopped and then they were like saturated in like submarine dressing It was like so good. But I can't remember it was whatever place that in Fishtown that, you know, they, they had me order from. But it was dope.

No, I love Philly, man. And like a Philly contingent, it was great because those guys came to meet me. And because I had, I, when you take the grant of Philly, they literally just like drop you in the middle of Philly and like, get out. You know, so I got there. Yeah, you sent me a picture. You sent me a picture where they dropped you and it was like it was on the street. Yeah, it was like a pretty hood area, but I, uh, there was this cop who was just like standing around looking angry. But you know, I pretty, I got a pretty good rapport with people, you know, like even, even police weren't really people.

But I'm just kidding. But, uh, so in any event, uh, I, uh, you know, I got like my duffel bag and stuff too. Uh, and I'm like, uh, I'm like, hey man, how you doing? And he's like, how are you doing? And I'm like, well, I'm like, I just got to Philly. I'm like, they made me get off the bus. And I'm like, where can I go kill some time? Because I can't check it to my hotel for like 10 hours.

And he's like, well, he's like, you can go to Fishtown and get drunk. And I'm like, that sounds like a good idea, you know. And so that's what I did because a bunch of a third shift guys, you know, they're getting off work at, you know, like six in the morning. So I'll go to Fishtown. and they make breakfast a bunch of those bars I guess I just missed

breakfast when I got there but uh um no they that I made friends with the whole staff they you know hung out there all day you know and uh

yeah they said come back anytime always welcome here it was pretty dope man I felt and then um the Antillop Hill Christmas party I got this this Uber driver guy was a freaking psycho they reminded me of

I'm going this year. Oh, no, awesome. Yeah, yeah. Now, speaking of the adult pill guys, I'm kind of rambling. I'll wrap it on a minute. But no, I had, like in the month of April,

nothing much got dung. So my health was bad. But I did do two things with the manuscript. I had to make, I had to add a conclusion to make it readable and title together. And it was sticking to my craw that I didn't include a discussion of the battle of K. San, which in my opinion was America's Stalingrad.

okay um even though it was a tactical victory i'm not suggesting that the outcome was what made it a parallel incident i mean as the representative factors and uh the political significance and the fact of it being a purely ideological contest and ideological considerations rather than material criteria you know being the cause of spali and i it would have bothered me me for the rest of my days that I left that out. And I plan to be here for a minute and I plan to write many more books. But if God forbid I wasn't here anymore next week or if a piano fell on me and I died this afternoon, I want this volume to stand alone.

You know, and that's where we're at. So I told Taylor, we talked over text on Monday and I told him by the end of this week. weekend I'll have a working draft for them and I will. But that's the reason we owe like the girls at the landmark a lot and guys because like they let me hang out there and peck, pick, pick away. And they keep me plied with BLTs and bushmills. And that's essentially the creative process. You know, I tip well too.

And like at my age, I don't mind paying pretty women to like hang around with me. You know, it's just like laughing at my jokes, like as I, as I type away at the bar. But, yeah, this was, this was great, man. I forgive me if it was a little bit scattershot and rambly, but I, I think part of what's, I think part of the strength of these streams is that they're spontaneous, you know. Yep.

Not planned at all. Yeah. But, yeah, no, well, uh, Yeah, I got to go jump on and start and record with someone else. You know, I let this week deliberately chill because for that reason, for the work on the manuscript. But tomorrow, I'm recording the burden on the zebra murders tomorrow. And that, that's, that series seems to be a big hit so far. Oh, yeah.

Reaches. Yeah, Mr. Hart says Fish on San was probably Reaches. Yeah, I think that's what it was, man. Yeah. But it was really good. But yeah. All right, thank you, Pete. I really appreciate you doing it.

Thank you, subs. I really appreciate everybody support, especially lately. But yeah, I'll let you go, man. And we'll talk this weekend about,

you know, the content stuff we talked about the other day. Yep, absolutely. All right, we'll talk to you. Thanks, everyone. Take care.