The Pete Quiñones Show - Live with RealThomas777 -05/21/26

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

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because, I mean, he's, I mean, he's, Byrne is my homie. We chat periodically, you know, uh, he's, uh, you know, and he's, he's like a fellow bastard son of Ulster. Like I said, him and Mrs. Byrne are kind of like the kids I never had.

Uh, not to be a modeling faggot. But, uh, like at the landmark, you know, which again is like, basically like that whole manuscript, like I had written at the fucking landmark, okay? There's this dude who's like, as regular there as I am, he's literally an IDF veteran, which isn't that rare on the North Shore.

Dude's a whole fucking asshole. Like, he was running. a shirt one time. It said something in Hebrew. And then under it in English, it said, visit Lebanon, help a haji meet Allah. Because it's like, ho, ho. Like, that dude's like made some wise-ass remarks to one of the bar girls he likes for talking to me.

But that dude's always, like, perfectly respectful of me. I'm not going to invite him to sit at my table. Yeah. But it's like this dude and I can tolerate each other. But some like white trash, Randow and Virginia, like, goes into, like, full-blown rage if he sees me. Like, how exactly does that work? Yeah, that's, it's, it's been a while since I've been in a city where there was that

much homelessness and that much like, remember that dude who walked up to us, his fingers were rotting off, holding like a $100 bill? That hasn't happened to me in a long time, man. Well, yeah, you don't even see that here because, uh, I mean, don't get me wrong. Um, like, if you go, uh, if you go around Ktown, like on the periphery, You know, if you're around, if you're around, like, Cicero and, um, in Lamont or something. And I'm, I'm not, like, proud of this, but when I was homeless, I spent a lot of time there just because, uh, I knew my plug. And also, like, in, I mean, Ktown's the deep hood, but it's not, like, really a spot.

But just the same. There's a lot of addicts there. And there's a lot, I don't, there's a lot of hookers. Just like street whores. But, I mean, two things. I was fucking embarrassed to be around, like, normal people. You had been always kept myself clean with it as much as it's probably. possible. You know, I was, like, embarrassed. And I didn't know, I didn't want to think about it. But also, uh, like, CPD will basically give you one chance. If you're, like, hanging around, uh, like, you're hanging on, like, you're hanging on, like, parking handling, but you're obviously strung out. They'll basically give you, like, one chance. Be like, look, bounce. And if you don't, like, they're going to, they're not going to charge you, but they're going to make you go wait. You know, so, yeah, seeing a dude and a dude, look like a leopard to slamming track. It's horrifying. It's horrifying. and like people who I was I was out of the my addiction by the time that hit and I'd like to think um like I was out of all that before like fentanyl replaced heroin and then all this like Frankenstein compounds but uh I mean fentanyl is literal poison anyway but if you're injecting trank dope uh your skin will rot off you'll develop lesions and your skin will rot it's not to be disgusting but you can smell it on people because they're it's necrotic you know it's like the walking dead or something. something. And when I saw that dude's hand, I'm like, okay, so that's, you know, an issue here, which didn't surprise me none, but, you know, I don't know, man. Like I, like I said on this, I don't want to repeat myself and bore everybody, but like I said on the, on the pod, that that's

like a real like nigger mentality, like this like victim identity, you know, being mad at everybody and like having this complex that people think they're better than you. It basically like refusing opportunity and then like bitching about how you're not getting a fair shake. You know, like I always say, man, like most niggers are white. Not statistically, but an absolute number. You better believe it. You know, and that's, uh, I don't know, man. Like I said, I just, I maintain, man, like, look, I don't, I don't hate anybody because

it's not personal. But if I can tolerate some fucking piece of shit Zionist IDF guy who thinks it's funny to wear shirts like that dude who's wearing these motherfuckers who are my own fucking race can tolerate me wearing like a shirt they don't like. I maintain too, those guys didn't even know what that shirt meant. I think, uh, I think, uh, what that one fool said to Curtis. Um, I think it was the sea grooms that bothered him. But even that, you know, like people are like, well, it's like California or Portland.

I'm like, no, it's not, man. Like I, I don't, I don't show it off. I always cover myself, um, in part because of, um, my rheumatoid shit. I got bad skin. But, uh, I got a, I got a white pride, like, Viking tattoo here. And I got her at George Christie's tattoo shop. George Christie, he's this big hell's angel

and he had a big falling out with Barger. Barger was actually like a real phony and like kind of a punk. But anyway, because I spent so much time in Turrell, like I ran across like George Christy a few times. Like you said this crazy martial art story. You'd buy like

ninja stars and shit. It was when I was a kid. Like I thought it was dope. But Christmas 97, my aunt and uncle invited me out. And I mean, by that time, you know, I was, I was, like, in my 20s, but, um, my, uh, like my high school girlfriend, and we kept it up, you know, she was too years younger than me, but, you know, we were still together on and awful. She was kind of self-destructing. Like, she died a few days for Christmas, 97. I was like, really fucking distraught, man. It's like, man, and uncle, like, yeah,

come out here for Christmas, which was great. But, uh, so I went out one night, uh, as my older brother was still talking to me. I went out with him, my sister-in-law, and, uh, I got like riproar and drunk And then we passed the ink house Which was Christie's tattoo shop Which he was obviously laundering A huge amount of fucking money from But it's like a Hell's Angels shop

And when I go in there They got the Bluth Fond Next to the Hells Angels flag Like right there in the lobby You can't miss it I mean this was like 30 years ago This was the fucking Clinton 90s Okay

And then you go into the room Where they're actually You know like inking people And they got like the Rikes Kriegs flag You know the like the Warrants and, you know, like, hanging vertically. So this place was like, this place had more like,

this place had more like Nazi flags than like A&P headquarters on the Rockwell days. Like nobody was like firebombing it. You know, and I, uh, the hell's angels, the reason why the, the sea ruins being associated with bikers, you know, the hell, the Hs were, uh, from Oak, you know, and, uh, the sea grooms, I believe, and one percent of to correct me. I don't, I don't know nothing about like motorcycle culture at all. I was always a car guy. And plus here, it's not really a thing.

I mean, there's just a Chicago outlaws, but I guess it. But I believe that, uh, I mean, uh, the H.A. is always more swastikas, but the sea grooms, uh, that was the filthy few bids. You know, like, if you've done like real dirt for the club, like murder somebody or something, you were the filthy few and you got the S to the Sea Roons. So, like, my point being, like, the fucking Bay Area was, like, full of dudes, like, tooling around a bike for, like, sea ruins. And, like, nobody was, like, going berserunerc.

about it. But apparently in like the former capital of the Confederacy, if you wear like a shirt, there's not even a swastick on that shirt. It's like the, unless you count that Triskelian. But if you wearing like a shirt with heraldic symbols of a long defunct German military unit, that's like an outrage. But even, uh, yeah, I don't know. Um, it was just interesting, man, because like I said, when, when I shouted that, I shouted out in social media what, uh, what we experienced. And then a bunch of people who like, oh yeah, like Richmond's a fucking dumb. Yeah, and then like I said, I, I know either Burden or Wallbanger had stayed there for a minute. And then Burden confirmed.

He's like, oh, yeah, he's like, fuck that fucking place. You know, like I said, he's local to Virginia. Yeah, very, very weird, man. But, I mean, live and learn, man. Like I said, that's half the reason I travel is because of, uh, um, the main reason is that I can, you know, chill with you and the fellows would also spread the good news to all of our friends. But also I like to get a sense of what's happening places. And, you know, I, the main really right to Greyhound is because I hate flying.

Like, even were it not Fubar, I just don't like it for all kind of reasons. But also, like, from Greyhound level, you kind of discern, like, American low life and stuff. And kind of like, you know, what's, I don't know, man. Like, I, um, but, you know, I think I got a good sense of what things are like. But, um, but I mean, that's thing, too. Like, this stuff is, like, totally performative. Like I saw him My friend the other day

We were talking about What a faggot Bruce Springsteen A.k.a. The girl boss is I mean, Springsteen's always been a fucking faggot But now I guess he's He's plugging like

No King's merchandise Like why is Trump a king? Like that's what I'm not being up to He said genuinely can't follow that line of reasoning Like why is he a king? Like Trump is royalty? Like is he like the Duke of New York or something? Like why?

and why the whole lore, if you want to be a stupid fuck, is that people like Trump or Nixon or George Wallace, they're racist who are using demagoguery to spoof the process. Like, the narrative isn't that these guys are part of an aristocracy that are kings. Like, what does that mean? Trump's overtaxing tea. Are they also mad at King Charles? I mean, I don't really need to be mad at King Charles.

He's like a Monty Python character. He's like pitiable and he's like, you know, it's unintentionally funny. But are they mad at him too? Or is there only people who aren't kings, but they call them that. Well, everybody, it's just a talking. Do they like remove kings from the deck of cars because it'd be an evil totem? But it doesn't make any fucking sense. Well, it doesn't.

Well, I mean, nothing makes sense anymore. I even hear our guys putting out stuff like this. Like, you know, it's like, oh, you know, you know, Thomas Mass. he's anti-white. It's like, when is he ever, what? What do you talk? I mean, like, and this is like their cope for backing the fucking rabbis who got, who, who, who got Matt Massey kicked out.

And a guy who's taken already $15 million from APEC and like is just basically put in there to be like, so the Jews can go, look, this is what we can do to you if you don't vote our way. Well, yeah, it's James Trafficant Redox. I don't get me wrong. I think Trafficking was a better man than Massey. Oh, yeah. Traffic colleagues.

You're going to do with what he locked or these like Zionist piece of shit to think of him. But I mean, anybody who fucks with regime stuff as a joker and not not in like a coy. But I don't, yeah, I just don't. At one time, even stupid polemic had had some like rational relationship to reality. You know, like, like it would be like saying fuck Joe Biden. he's a stupid chink he's like Mao Zay Dong I hate all those fucking chinky fucks

like Joe Biden No chinks It's like are you all fucking retarded You know I don't What's also too Like I don't It's like when that one fucking idiot Like Michael Shannon

Like star fuckers And other losers Like make a big deal about him Because he's like a Chicago guy He always been like a bunch of shit Like he was speaking of one two centers Boardwalk Empire Yeah

Usually that movie The bike riders and whatever But yeah right Right That was his big thing his big role. But that fool, he was like,

he was like, running about Trump. It's like, bro, why do you go to fuck what Rabbi Trump does or doesn't do? You've got like zero dickskin in this.

And you're like, you're like some like regime media guy. You're like getting very rich, like working in the same fucking business as Mr. Trump. Like why, why do you care? There's nothing to do with you.

You know, like what do you, what do you get out of pretending to care about this? You know, like I, I mean, that doesn't make any sense either. Yeah.

I've almost come to the conclusion that even people who, it's not. even people who call themselves Christian and have like a good confessional heritage. I mean, they rely on politics more than they do on like their own faith. Like they're more serious about politics and their own faith. But they, but even that's performative.

Like they're not going to, if they, if they were facing, if they were facing Google egg time or if somebody, you know, threatened their life, they'd, uh,

they'd like sell their own kids into, fucking sex slavery. It's just talk, man. Like, you know, I, uh, like, people can tell me I'm lying or whatever, man. Like, one of the reasons I, I fly my flag the way I do. And so I would people think, like, I don't go armed, man, because I'm not going to carry a piece without paperwork, especially because I got felony background. Because, like, then I'd go to prison, man. You know, and, um, like when I, in, in, my home, it's older than a story, but, you know, like, uh, and the fellows were worried, you know, like Kaiser, he was worried somebody was going to try to hurt me in, um, in Bichman.

But I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, look, I appreciate every much that you guys are concerned. But I'm like, if it happens, it happens, man, I'm not worried about it. You know, uh, I mean, that's already coded anyway and do fate. But, you know, I, if they told me tomorrow, I'm going to go to prison for doing what I do, I wouldn't do anything different. I'd be like, okay, I guess I'm going to go to prison. Like, these motherfuckers who pretend like they love Zog, they would not do that. They'd immediately drop the fucking ass. Nobody, nobody, nobody's going to, like, die for Israel or, like, sacrifice their kids for Benet and Yahoo. No wonder what kind of, like, garbage they talk in the internet.

These, uh, these, like, literal retards, like, like, shitty underw's, corky fucking, um, James Lindsay. He's, he's not going to, like, kill people or late on his life, like, for greater Judea. He's going to post, like, retard selfies of him, like, pretending to be Jewish and putting on retards somber face in front of, like, the magic wheeling wall. That's the equivalent of, like, taking a, like, taking a feldierce. fucking selfie with like some lady dressed of snowyed at Disney Wands, you know? That doesn't mean you're going to die from Mickey Mouse.

So, I mean, it's that to consider it too. But I mean, that's one of the reasons, um, that's one of the, uh, that, that's one the reasons why, um, Muslims who know their shit, they, uh, they, they, they don't invoke that like, Salafi polemic, like, about the crusaders. Because their whole thing is you're apostate. You don't believe in anything.

You know, you, you believe, you believe in money. And, you know, that's why, like, you'll literally do anything for money. You know, and I mean, that's, that's why they know the win. You know, that's true. Like, there's not, really, the only actual Christians I know are you guys. I know, like, really, I know, like, hardcore, like, Bible prods, like, way, way more committed than me, okay? I know, like, very hardcore Orthodox and Roman Catholic guys, but, I mean, that's it. You know, like, so, some, have you ever, like, actually watched, like, that kind of, like, Joel Austin's stuff?

He doesn't even mention scripture. He'll draw up some from the Gospels like about how like you know, if you live the right kind of life, you know, manna from heaven will reward you. But it's a sit. What was that guy in the 90s who had those like, you could order his tapes, those like self-help videotapes.

He's literally like lifting that guy's scripts. And then at the end like, oh, amen. That's it. It's not, there's nothing religious about that. You know, they're not like living a Christian life. There's no like contemplation behind. it's, you know, I'm a good person because I don't use bad language and I send money to this self-help guru and I'm pretty well off. So that means that I'm the elect. And when I go to this building

and we, you know, watch this guy on the big screen, I meet other people who give me stock tips. It's literally that, you know, pimpsish and simple-minded. You know, at least what I will see in the north, people don't really put on airs like that. You know, uh, everybody here pretty much goes to church because you look at this kind of like a weirro if you don't but people are going to drop on you like oh yeah I'm religious or like say like we're going to say a prayer now

when it's like this totally like phony shit because like I mean don't get wrong there's like fucked up fake stuff here too but it's not like that that's like a southern and southwest thing you know like um it uh but yeah it's not there's like nothing to it

I uh well that's also too why I've pointed out to people this like Christian Zionism garbage. It's it's like five million miles wide and like a quarter centimeter thick. Like nobody actually believes in that. And it's not even like there's not even like a theological divide. It's not even like well, you know, these guys like John Hagey, they have like an incorrect direction of scripture.

They don't read scripture. They don't cite it. It's just like Jews are this magical race of elves and Jesus was a magic elf because he was Jewish. And the Philistines were evil palestine. Palestinians and the magic elf Jewish people are gods and our betters. So praise Israel. It's like literally that fucking retarded. You know, like that's why that's why when future mass grave occupant Ted Cruz was like on Tucker,

he was just giving like blank looks when Tucker's like, well, yeah, but it's anti-Christ. You know, it's anti-Scripture. He's like, well, I was raised this way. It's like, bro, I don't give you raised a fucking Scientologist. That doesn't answer the question. You know, maybe you were raised to fuck she. So you're telling me, hey, I was raised this way, so it's all good, bra. You know, it's not, I mean, but these people literally don't have a better answer.

Like, that's why it's ridiculous. And people are like, this is like some perennial thing. Like, it's, it doesn't actually exist, you know. But that's the thing to your line, too. Like, one of the reasons I, one of the reasons I discourage social media. I mean, here I am being a fucking hypocrite because I set up a timeline. In my defense, I only did that to plug the book. but these these these fucking internet retards they don't actually exist they're like these

these weirdos and like geography and nowhere places and like they're blowing off steam by like saying bullshit on the internet like they're not actually engaged on anything they're even next to some like pejit neighbor you don't know they got some like wife or girlfriend who hates them and like never gives them any pussy they got some like job they hate and they're terrified that like anybody would find out they like told like a nigger joke in the internet because they think that They think some orbital bombardment platform will, like, shoot you with a laser. If anyone finds out, you type, like, nigger on the internet. But it's like these guys don't actually exist.

You know, and that's why, you know, conservatism or whatever, it's, it's a media branding. Like, that's basically, like, saying that you, that's basically saying, that's going to saying, like, you stream, like, Netflix shows. So I encourage people, like, acknowledge, like, understand that, too. Like, this shit doesn't actually exist. You know, I feel like a real partisan. And I'm not, I'm not suggesting people do violent things or break the law at all. I do not endorse that.

This never acceptable. But you think I got provisional IRA was sitting around in 1985, like worrying about with some fucking dickhead was like writing to the Belfast Times in like the letters. Like why these people shouldn't even like be in your fucking radar, you know? Well, and now people are obsessed with. I mean, all that stuff roll off my dick. You'll have these guys who are on like hyper on Twitter. And as soon as somebody posts something.

they don't agree with. It's like, I'm going to do my duty. I'm going to go in there and I'm going to show them how wrong they are. And it's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Yeah, it's corny and weird. But, no, but it's as real as video games. You know, that's why, I mean, I let stuff roll off me because I'm just fucking watertight as a frog's ass, okay? But, like, that aside,

it's like, look, man, if you've got, It's like, if you got that much of a beef about, like, what I'm doing and you're like that, like, committed to it. It's like, why don't, why don't ever, like, see you or hear from you? This is, like, all I do, man, if I were worse. You can call me like a loser or an insane person or a dick or whatever. But it's like, I live in real space, man. I don't live on the fucking internet.

You know, and if you're Mr. I'm going to sit you in if someone's right and kick you out of the right wing. Go ahead, man. I'm not trying to fight. I ain't like that. But I'm like, because it's gay. but like literally. But the point is,

it's like, I'm the easiest fucking person to get an audience with. Like, why, okay, so like set me right. Or like,

where's your militia guys who are like taking the street back from dickheads like me? Oh, that's right. They don't exist because you're worrying for some like shitty tech company and like saying random bullshit on the internet. Away from the prying eyes if you're like mail order bride who would get mad at you.

You know, okay. Well, apparently it doesn't actually exist. You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying what I do is so great or so ballsy because it's not at all.

But, I mean, I do like, I do like live my fucking principles and I don't do anything else, you know? I mean, incredibly that like orbital space laser didn't like blast me for like saying or writing mean things, you know. But it's also part of it's like main character syndrome. Like these dick and first of all you think like, I'm so important. It's all about me. So when I write bullshit on social. 100%. Yeah.

I mean, you know, when I write both on social media. It's a combination of main character syndrome and thinking that they actually know shit. when they don't know shit. Well, that's the weirdest thing, too. And that's really just an American thing. Like, I don't understand why, like, random over-medicated housewife or, like, literally retarded James Lindsay.

It's like, you have no take. That'd be like me saying, you know, I've got a theory, I've got a theory of black hole cosmology. None of you people who don't know what you're talking about. I just know about this. See, I'm an expert. I watch a lot of Battlestar Galactica.

So this is my take. It's like, you, you, you have no fucking take. You know, like, who the fuck told these people? Like, they're like geopolitical experts. And they've got instincts for the subject matter greater than Henry Kissinger or, or Bismarck. Like, like, where did you get this basis for your take? You consume a lot of social media.

You, you, you know a lot of one-liners. You've observed all of memes. Like, I, you know, I, like I said, you can call me obtuse. I still want somebody to. telling me why Trump is a king. I honestly do not understand that and it bothers me. You know, I really like the 19-Duty Twilight Zone. And actually, there were some cool stuff there.

Like, Harlan Ellison, like, wrote some shit for it. There's this one episode that Wes Craven wrote. And it's about this dude, typical kind of, like, overstressed, 1980s, like, salesman. You know, he's got, like, a sick little kid at home and a wife. He's all stressed out. And one day, vocabulary totally changes.

Like, words just mean totally different things. At first it was happening happening like randomly, like his neighbor refers to his dog as, as, as, as, as, as, as, is like a hinge. And then, uh, somebody refers to the phone as a doorway. And after a while, he just can't interpret anything anymore. That's like literally the way I feel like when I, when I, when I hear these, he ought to see this shit. Like, like, why, why is Trump a king? You know, like, I, that's not, they're not speaking English in a shared conceptual vernacular as commonly understood. You know, I'm trying to make that point to some people the other day.

I think a lot of people are just, I mean, and there are some people that just don't hide it. I think they're proud of their ignorance. It's like, oh, maybe you should read this. Well, why would I read that? It's possible. You know, why would I read that? Why would I want to learn stuff? I know how stuff works.

Well, I mean, that's fine, but it's like, don't insist you have some take, you know? I don't know why people are so invested in this either. I understand why I understand the way that propaganda codes for arousing people's emotional triggers and things and psychological control. I mean, obviously, I spend every day thinking about this and researching it. But I also, I understand that the 24-hour news cycle, when it became clear that it was far more effective to transform what's presented as news, as news. media is infotainment. I realize that that supplanted things like soap operas and TV dramas and things like that. But I still don't fully grasp it.

Like it would seem to be too prosaic and not exciting enough to gain these people's attention. I mean, how is it really that interesting to pretend that despite having absolute conceptual illiteracy amares at politics, pretending that Donald Trump is doing things to you personally? like why is that exciting? Or doing things. You know, I mean, or doing things for you. I mean, we're saying higher than that if you're going to be.

Well, or doing things for you. Like, you're going to be a delusional narcissist. Yeah. No, 100%. But it's like if you're going to be a delusional narcissist,

at least pretend that, at least pretend the defense intelligence agencies after you in some like total recall kind of scenario or pretend like beautiful women want to fuck you or something, like pretending like, I am enraged at Donald Trump. I want to murder him. Yeah.

It's like, bro, you're, you're some fuckhead boomer who's losing his mind. Like, go, go golf and watch pornography. Like, Donald Trump isn't, isn't making your milk spoil. He's not, he's not making your cornflakes soggy, you know. He's also not deporting 100 million people for you, so maybe stop being delusional. I mean, there are people, there are people on your side door as equally as delusional. Donald Trump, Donald Trump was going to arrest Prince Charles when he was here. I mean, I understand that a little more because people have this, people need something to sort of center their conceptual horizon and primitive and ignorant as might be.

So in the absence of real authority, the president of the United States, despite the diminishing of the office, especially since Watergate, they still sort of like assign it as this as a sort of symbol, symbol of sovereign authority. I get this kind of like infantile like hero worship of the president more than I do. some guy who's like never been to prison never gone hungry never any real problems in life you know he's some boomer who's like wealthier than 90% of the country like flying into rages because he thinks Donald Trump is doing something to him that's far far far weirder I think when I was a kid wealthy middle age and elderly men if when I when we were kids

because we're approximately the same age if wealthy middle age and elderly men were publicly flying into trembling rages claiming that Ronald Reagan was doing things to them, they'd probably be institutionalized. Because that's what insane people do. I think Donald Trump is a total piece of shit and a contemptible human being.

I literally expend zero emotional energy on Donald Trump. I don't even think about him, you know. I can't imagine living my life otherwise. I don't even think about Benjamin Netanyaku. I don't even think about that ass asshole at the bar who tells C stories about his IDF date. Like, why would I?

that guy didn't murder my family that that guy didn't you know inject cancer into me in my sleep he just something like Zionist dickhead you know I don't I don't understand this like sort of rage fix that people need I mean I guess it's born of I think a lot about mass psychology

that's why I cited Robert Putnam and Chris Rulash and some of these other guys in my manuscript it was in context who's in the chapter about the propaganda war during the Second World War and the structuring of the narrative of anti-fascism and things. But I think a lot about symbolic psychology

because I think that that's essential to the way human minds conceptualize things. I mean, I know it is. And at the center of propaganda is symbolic psychological aspects and conceptually coded triggers designed to draw out, you know, responses to the symbolic phenomena.

So I get that. But I guess, I guess I don't understand this like rage thing. Well, do you think, there were times of my life, especially when I was a young man. Let me ask you this. Let me posit this story to you. Well, I was just going to see real quick. Okay, good.

No, go ahead. I'm sorry. The, a lot of the boomers, like, just because of age, they didn't get to go to Vietnam. They didn't get to go to war. And maybe, like, there's a certain sense that people need to feel, need to participate in that, or else they're going to, Kaczynski wrote about this, where they're going to use, they're going to have surrogate activities. They're going to have surrogate activities where they, you know, politics, everything becomes about politics now because, you know, because I wasn't able to to exercise my power process in my life. And, you know, basically all I've, all I've done is work and, and John Prus is and do nothing else.

Yeah, but these idiots also, they're the kinds of guys who, like, call the law on you because they don't like the shirt you're wearing or something. But you can't have both ways, man. You can't, you can't be a normie civilian, but also demand you need, like, action and excitement. These guys don't even know what to do with it if it fell in their lap, man. I don't know. And the first thing from some, like, dynamic man of action or, like, a tough guy, but I always felt, I feel there's a bunch of fucking, like, hood dudes and special forces, vets, and, like, high incident, violent guys.

just like want to hang out with me. Like apparently I'm not. And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying like I'm so fucking cool. What I'm saying is that like apparently you don't, you don't need some like personal body count in Nam or Iraq for like people to like respect you man. I don't feel like I was missing out because I didn't I didn't get to like blast people

when I was 19 years old in a war zone. Like if it happened, it would have happened. I mean, I wouldn't have been afraid of it. But that's not an experience. I desperately carve it. I don't really like violence, man. like it doesn't make me ill or something. I'm far from a passiveist, but I don't like it.

I never did, you know. I guess I was about to say a minute ago. There's been times I got like really, really angry, especially when I was young, you know, and especially when you have trouble controlling your passions and things like that, and especially where, you know, like Eros is involved in things. But every single one of those times is because somebody personally slated me in some horrible way. You're really, really hurt somebody that I loved. I've never felt like I was losing control of my temper

because a public figure did something on TV. You know, like I said, so recently, it was understood that people who think that way, you're basically like sliding into John Hinkley territory because that's what crazy people do. You know, if you want to blast the president because you're convinced that he's stealing your thoughts or turning your son gay or, you know,

he's the reason why you can't get your dick hard or your corn flakes taste bad. that's called mental illness. It's not normal, you know. I mean, don't get me wrong. I have some pretty strange thoughts, man, and especially when I was younger, you know, I dream like really vividly.

Since I got back from the road, I, like I said, my dad thinks the international situation is upsetting me. So when I was, feeling I was getting sick again, he advised me to avoid international news. And, I mean,

I can't fully do that because I got to stay abreast of these things. But I think he's not entirely wrong, but I used to, I, I used to not know how to manage these really vivid dreams because it would color my mood, you know, for days subsequent. And it's a really draining experience. And, you know, mental space is its own place.

I mean, that's not just like a Cartesian variable that's emphasized as part of like a thought experiment. You know, it's a real thing. And people's conceptual quotient, you can imagine things like emotion or conceptual life. like you can intelligence you know i believe and if you live in your mind a lot which i do you know i deal in concepts and things you know um it can be very very draining you know um so i'm not i'm not saying i'm the most like stable person or something psychologically but uh this uh

kind of a negative emotional investment and what amounts to really trivial and and and It based stupid propaganda. That's not something that was the norm. A.K. So the last time I was my temper is because my hand slipped and I dropped a frozen peach on the bottom of the oven. It really sucks, man, especially if it's like a good pizza. Like generally, I'm a pizza snob because I'm in Chicago. But there's a couple brands of frozen pizza that are pretty dope.

And like the Giorno's was pretty dope. And back when Dominics existed, like Shytown people, remember Dominics. Dude, how much fucking pizza? This big grocery chain that was literally founded by some whopping How much fucking pizza did we eat in Richmond?

Massive amounts. It was glorious. Yeah, Richmond actually had some really dope pizza. Not as good as here, but Charlie found this pizza place and it was fucking fire, man. It was really good.

And yeah, we devoured, like, I mean, admittedly it was like 12 hungry motherfuckers on deck. Yeah, we pounded. Let's see,

I got, the first thing when I got to town is like, I made Curtis, I think the fellows are trying to secretly kill me because they run into this Airbnb. Three flights of stairs. Each flight was like the Exorcist stairs.

So like I'm like hobbling up there. It's like insane, man. Like I've got like a climb fucking Mount Everest. So but Curtis is a great guy. And like he got there early. So he was like, he was really happy to see me because I was like the second man on deck. So like I got him to, I got him to give me a like a bush mill. So we went out and got like one of the biggest.

about it was at Bushmills. That was like gone immediately. It's like I got another one who went out the next day. And then our, our patron and benefactor got me like a whole handle. Yeah. I couldn't believe it when a handle showed up. I'm like, holy fuck.

It's like 15 pizza. Yeah, it was pretty out of hand, man. But it, but no, back to Aege's point, if I if I foobared my own pizza, like, yes, I would be coming enraged. I'd, uh,

I'd stalked like the streets like in a rage until like I found like a vulnerable old person or a prostitute and I would like murder them Dude you like you're gonna pay for my pizza You can't Dropping the pizza and losing the pizza wouldn't bother me As much as the fact that I have to clean that fucking oven now That's what I do like I kidnap a hooker

A vulnerable old person I'd like make them clean it up and I'd like throttle them to like Status for my rage I'd be like look it's not a personal honey But I'd be like I I drop my pizza and now I got to work it off somehow, you know, and you're the designated victim. I'm sorry. So just like clean that shit and then you die.

Actually, I wouldn't do that. I like women. I don't want to hurt them. Yeah, and that's another thing. There's like some women I'd have like lobotomized or institutionalized. That's, that's another thing I saw in Richmond that I haven't seen in a long time is streetwalkers. Like legit streetwalkers. Yeah.

Oh, you see that here too. You just don't see it in the city center. That's what was like foolhard to me Because we're, well, it's like Jack was saying to Um, where we were staying on East Kerry That's kind of like the city center That's why there's like little bookshops and shit I mean, that'd be like, uh, I mean, it'd be like

I mean, I'd be like, I mean, really Chicago was like exponentially bigger That'd be when you saw something like hooker walking on the mag mile It's like, I mean, you go to the dope spot of the deep hood Yeah, you see that, but you certainly don't see it Just like in the middle of the fucking town center Like you see some of that in Portland, especially back in the day for like pre-COVID, but it was like more subtle.

And like the end, these girls who were selling their pussy. First of all, they didn't come out until around, you know, like, until like after hours joints were the only place is open. But they'd be wearing like normal,

they'd be dressed like normal civilians. They'd kind of like saunter up to you. They'd ask you for a cigarette. It'd be like, hey, can I walk with you? You know, and then they'd be like, you know,

you want to go somewhere, you know, you want to have fun or you like, you're holding any dope. And then it'd be getting clearer it was underway. I mean, from junk. I mean, frankly, I'm not, I'm not knowing that good looking or cool.

They're like, even kind of broken down random girls in their 20s want to, want to like have sex with me. But like, you know, you'd, but that's kind of the way they'd play it. But no, I, Richmond is fucking grimy, man. I mean, like I said, I didn't. And don't be wrong. I mean, I guess I am. Well, travel is I am. I basically going a straight line from, like, New York to, like, Portland in my travels.

I don't get down to, like, the deep. South, man. You know, it's, and it really, it really is different, you know, and up here. I mean, you know what I mean, you live down there. Yeah. Like in good ways and bad, it's different than up here. And, um, you know, I've had, uh, when I was on the road, uh, when we were going to, um, oh, we were going to OGC, like year before last, uh, because, like, young Wyatt drove me. And, uh, we stopped in Louisville because we'd been on the road, uh, for a minute. We like, basically, like, we left early the morning, went all the way through to Louisville. So he and I were like, we're starving, you know, and, um, um, the suburbs of Louisville are like real hood man and in and in like a high incident like bad stuff happens there you know um but at the same time you go into like downtown louisville it's kind of run down but you don't see like hookers walking around you know and you don't see just like run down shit well it was bizarre too man like um when uh when i got to town um

the greyhound doesn't stop at like the transit station there it stops at um It just like lets you out in like this big like parking lot, which is kind of weird. But it was only like five, it was only like a five minute Uber ride from the place. Like as the crow flies, because it's all, all them one-way streets,

we had to like weave around. So like this black chick, Uber driver picked me out, but she was perfectly polite, you know, and fine. Like a lot of black folks are in the South, you know.

But she pulls up. At first I thought she'd fucked up the address. It was like, all I sees at Jimmy Johns. And on Carrie. Street East Kerry. It's like there's a quarter mile of cobblestones. Then it just stops. And it's like tore up brickwork and potholes. It's like the fuck is this. You know, and um, like we were walking around like there's just like random piles of bricks and stuff. It's like, yeah, there's something really blown out about it. So I stayed, um, I stayed about 10 minutes south of you guys outside of the city. And there was a 7-Eleven down the street. The 7-Eleven literally had three fucking hooker. in the parking lot with their fucking pimp. Awesome.

I mean, I'm just like, what the fuck is this place? Did you get to know their pimp? Did you get to know their pimp? I did not. I'm like, I would become like,

I would become like, I would become homies with their pimp. Like, like if they, especially if they had King Cobra at that's 7-Eleven, I would have gotten some King Cobra. I'd have been like, hey,

homie, like, how's it going? Like, how's everything in the pimp business, man. I'm new to town and like, I'll be like,

you know, look, Like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, like, be a Pimp 2. You know, it's like, I got King Corber, like, can you give me some Pimp advice, man? You know, I think I'm gonna, I think I'd be good in the game. Well, no, I've got no other than, because you're Spanish. So, like, me, I'd have to, like, I'd have to, I'd have to, I'd have to, I'd have to name drop, like, corn. cornbread or something. But I just, well, and that pimp was Spanish. I, uh, in that, in that, in that, in that, 7-Eleven parking lot.

Interesting. Yeah. See, you guys were like, you guys had like an automatic report, man. I, um, there's this place, uh, Waikigan, Illinois is really strange. They've got like a really good high school football program. But Waikigan, uh, it's a really rough hood. It's Lake County. It's like an hour north of the Chicago. And that's right over at Great Lakes Naval Base is,

which is where like Navy boot camp is. You know, and, um, but, uh, there's this really awesome restaurant on Route 41 by what Keegan and North Chicago called the full moon. It's 24 hours. This like big diner. They got really good biscuits and they got really good omelets and stuff. But, uh, if you go to here after hours, you know, like after midnight, there's a bunch of North Chicago cops and a bunch of like pimps, like actual, like dudes who look,

look like they're out of like some cheap movie, like dude's like big hats and like wearing, uh, wearing, I don't even what you'd call it. They look kind of like, though, with them, like, teddy boy, hipster, like, drape jackets, but they're cut shorter and they got, like, wider lapels. But, like, you'd see, like, dudes wearing those. And, like, guys, like, big, like, pinky rings. Like, I shit you not. It was, like, a cartoon.

And, um, there were times, uh, yeah, there were, there were times, like, uh, like, not disrespectfully, even, like, I talk some shit to those guys. And, like, I thought it was fun. I'm sure they chalked it up to like, this is one strange, drunk white man, but, but, uh, I mean,

I don't know, man, like I kind of, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I see people,

I, I, that's why I feel like to cats, my spirit animal. They just kind of like walk around and, and, like, um, cautiously fuck with things.

I think are interesting, including people, you know, uh, so I, if people strike me as funny or weird, I, I find entertaining to,

like, engage with them. You know, like, that's, that's, It's kind of like a hobby of mine. Like it can backfire, you know,

because then suddenly, like, you can't get away from some fool who, like, has decided you're his friend. But it's, uh, it's a Jones that cannot, it cannot break. Well, I think the one good thing about it. Yeah, Gabby says Harris is a, a word. Oh, man. I believe it.

Yeah. The one good thing about this trip was it just reminded me that, um, I never have to go back to Richmond ever. Yeah, it's definitely not like on, like I got kicked to the balls once long ago. Like when I was in a high school and we'd fight the guys from Deerfield for no reason. Like I hung out all kinds of people in high school from like gearheads and the dudes that took like auto's class with to like stoners to jocks and preppy guys. But we'd go to this Baker Square kind of like in the border of cooking Lake County if the Deerfield guys were there. we'd like decide to stomp the shit out of them.

But like one time like we got our asses totally kicked because like they showed up like mob deep with backup. And this guy like literally just like kicked me straight up on the balls, man. It hurts so bad. I can't even describe it, man. I never want to experience that again. I also don't ever want to go to Richmond again. You know, yeah.

The worst, the worst thing about getting hit in the balls is that like two seconds before the pain, when you know the pain's coming, but it hasn't come yet. And you're like, oh, oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, and there it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then I, I wouldn't let my girl, I mean, not to be TMI. I wouldn't let my girlfriend touch me for days. And like, she had it was funny. I'm like, it's not at all funny, you know, that. I only cracked up because I would hit my ball. Like, that's, that's honestly the only time it happened. But it's like something I, it sticks in my mind because it's like, I don't want to want to repeat that.

And yeah, it's similarly I feel about Bichman. I don't want to go to Bichman again. You know, like it, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll see each other again in three weeks. Yeah, man, yeah, that'll be awesome. No, the ODC conclave, I mean, the ODC people, including yourself, always, like, treat me really well. And I really, really appreciate them, man, like sincerely.

But that's always a blast. Just because it's in, I'd sound like a chill resort. and that hotel rooms are really nice and I always got like really good sleep out there because um it's something too like fresh country air and uh like last year was dope because like Arthur was my roommate

and uh it's like it reminds me like being in college or being um or being on the road when um like me and the guys in my gym we go to power lifting meets or like bodybuilding shows because I'd always like bunk with them guys and that was fun and I uh

like Arthur is my roommate last year and uh we had a lot of fun um He's got a fight coming up, so we ain't going to be on deck. But the Wisconsin guys reached out to me, and they said they're going to drive me, which is great. They're a bunch of young dudes. I met the Indiana guys a couple weeks ago, which was a lot of fun. They invited us to, they invited me and Mr. Jay to this like brewery and barbecue place. It was really good, man, but they got a lot of guys in their chapter.

They're like 25 deep. We had a lot of fun, man. But I never met the Wisconsin guys, but they said that they're stoked for me to ride with them. They're a bunch of young dudes, so that should be fun, man. I'll, um, I'll get some of the Wisconsin guys. They're going to stick around for the after party and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, Wisconsin is, Wisconsin is cool, man.

Like, it gets, they get something of a bad rap, not for being, like, run down or something, although there are some rundown places for sure. but like Milwaukee's a fun town and like Wisconsin people are are nice it's a lot it's a lot of outlaws from like Indiana because in Indiana is a bunch of like Ulster Scott bastards and uh like high incident peckerwoods Wisconsin's like a bunch of fat bavarians like Sergeant Schultz who's want to drink their beer and eat their cheese and like watch the Packers or stuff my youngest brother we were just fine my youngest brothers lived in Wisconsin for like 20 years now oh no way that's yeah no it's cool man I've been up there well I'll uh you

Yeah, no, for the, we'll, I'll go up there with the fellas. And then, yeah, like later that weekend, it'll be my birthday, so that'll be a lot of fun. Yeah, I'm going to raise up in a minute, man, because I got a late start today, man. That's why my hair was wet. Like, I mean, I was up early. I wake up really whether one of you're not, you know, but I didn't do shit until, like, a half hour for one who went alive. I'd like take a shower and get presentable. But I'm going to, I'm going to go to the landmark and eat a deal.

heat and I'm going to try and get some long-form stuff done, man. Because I got to get, I gave myself, like, I, you know, I was on the bus for like 21 hours and I wait home, and then Big D and Cornwood picked me up, and I took him to IHop. Like, that's, like, well worth the price of admission, man. Like, Big D. and Cornbread will drive me to the bus if I take them to Mickey D's or IHop. Sometimes I can plague it them with Mickey D's, but, like, they were demanding IHop, so I told him to IHop. But, so then I got home.

and I was really worked out from the road. So I decided to give myself till today to chill, but I got an excuse for not being productive today. So, but no, this is great, man. And we'll, yeah,

we'll reconvene. You know what I got. Just let you know, at the PO box today, I went and not only got a, got a letter from a little gift from a friend in Idaho. Shout out to my buddy. I also got the new.

You said you like a keel of cocaine. And the new Adelope Hill, Germany and Stalin's cross Harris book, the print copy. Yeah, yeah, man. It's a fantastic book. They send me this and, uh, exhaustive.

This is freaking really cool, man, too. Yeah, it's about, uh, the Germanic SS. And it's written late in the war. And the, the, the Dutch were like the backbone of the Germanic SS. For those that don't know, the, this was not the Vaughn S. It was, it was the, um, it was the, um, it was the equivalent of the Algamite SS for Germanic states or nations rather, you know, Norway, Denmark. The Netherlands, there was a, there was a, a Flemish organization as well.

But it's really, it's really fascinating. And I'm kind of a sucker for like Germanic heraldry and stuff. And I find that really fascinating. But, no, I love Animal Hill, man. That's why I was so stomp that, you know, they made the offer to work with me and publish the book. and they had a really nice Christmas party, man. I'm going to be there this year. I'm going this year.

Taylor, Hill. Oh, yeah. That's, that's awesome, man, and it's a blast. And Philly's an awesome town,

man. And, like, when I was in Philly, like I said, I got there, that's another situation with a greyhound just, like, kicks you out in the middle of Philly.

I remember you should, you'd say, and, you took a picture where they said you're at, it was like right in the middle of the street. Yeah, which was just fine, but,

You know, it was like seven in the morning. And so I couldn't check into my hotel to like three. So I get there's actually like this cop who was like hanging out by the rapid transit system. They got an L there, kind of like they do here. So I said to the cop and I'm like, hey, man, I'm like, I'm a tourist and I can't go to my hotel yet. I'm like, you got any recommendations for, you know, what I should see in Philly. And he's like, well, you could go get drunk because the bars in Fishtown open early here. and I'm like, okay, thank you, officer.

So I go to Fishtown, I didn't get drunk, but this lady, this lady running the bar, like I told her my deal, and they, they started breakfast and stuff. And, you know, then, like, as the day went on, she's like, oh, yeah, you're all going to hang out here as long as you want. Actually, I didn't have eaten lunch there. She said, yeah, we ordered from this, like, Italian sandwich place, you know, and, like, I'll call him for you.

And this, like, sandwich was incredible, too, like, like a king. But then when I shouted out, I was in Fistown, like, a bunch of that Philly guys that came over to this bar to hang out with me because they like knew about this bar and we we had a blast man it was a lot of fun um that's i said no i got nothing but a nice thing to say about philly man yeah yeah yeah yeah but uh speaking of eating i i got to go i got to go eat a bLT and uh try and do something productive yeah we'll we'll we'll we'll collab uh tomorrow man um yeah well we got it on my phone and uh yeah thanks so much for doing this man all right man i uh especially especially uh yeah yeah yeah we'll talk uh later

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