The Pete Quiñones Show - Live with RealThomas777 -07/02/26

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today, my friend. Yeah, stream yards on that. I'm with you. I'm boycotting the outdoors for the time being. Because every time I go out there, I feel like I'm experiencing jungle rod or something. I don't want to be a bore and talk about my ill health. I don't look well, but I'm feeling a lot better. I'm just battling some fatigue, man.
Starting point is 00:00:35 there's always a few or several days when I come through one of these episodes where I just feel like unbelievably fucking tired, man. My doctor explained it to me as your immune system normalizes it. It's calorically expensive. And I guess it just like it just kind of smokes your cellular processes. So I've been Really really sleepy man Which sucks but all the more reason I owe you guys a tremendous debt
Starting point is 00:01:11 Like you burden Carl Andy For doing all you do with the editing And um Big D and his wife have been running errands for me And like bringing me like etc in stuff and Gatorade So they deserve props too Um I'm real lucky, and so was my dad for tolerating me.
Starting point is 00:01:38 But other than that, I've been, the reason why I was on the timeline the other day, I was discussing that any docu-series about John Gotti, where they talk to his son, you know, and take his testimony. I've always thought John Guy. He was a compelling figure. You know, when I was a teenager and a young guy, you know, that's when he was all over the news. And I just always thought he was cool. But aside from that, this new manuscript I'm working on, a substantial aspect of it deals with the subcultural nature of Van Gogh guardism. And it's really what the mafia came out of. People don't really understand what the
Starting point is 00:02:41 mafia is or what its origins were. Now, I don't really think it exists anymore. I mean, yeah, there's, there's Italian guys who are doing dirt and the street and racketeering, but they're just another ethnic gang. You know, it doesn't mean anything beyond that. But, you know, the two mafia heartlands were Sicily, obviously, in Naples. And in both locales, they were constantly being occupied by hostile elements. So they developed this independent network that was one part vigilance committee
Starting point is 00:03:31 one part you know a sort of secret government that would you know handle things like the welfare or widows and orphans and you know
Starting point is 00:03:49 provide for the common good you know and and also be able to mobilize and you know in times of in times of essential danger, such that, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:05 such that, you know, they were being subjected to ethnic cleansing by the French or the Spanish or whatever. And it's interesting because there's a lot more of an egalitarian
Starting point is 00:04:17 aspect to the mafia in Naples than in Sicily. It was a lot more diffuse, a lot less centralized in Naples, and a lot more regular guys who by day were sort of just common peasants
Starting point is 00:04:29 or later on, you know, laborers. And by night, you know, they were mafiosi. In Sicily, there's a lot more of an elitism. And interestingly, John Gotti and Yildela Crochet, they were both Neapolitan.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You know, and of course, Paul Gostalana was a Sicilian. And they give into that in the HBO by Apagoddy, which is a great movie. You know, with Armada Sante and Anthony Quinn and William Forsyth, that's one of my favorite gangster movies. But I think one of the one of the G-man
Starting point is 00:05:08 who's in an Italian-American he makes note of that the kind of his white bed Mormon types that he's working with he's like look he's like there's a there's a there's a rivalry here
Starting point is 00:05:25 between the Neopalans and the Sicilians he's like it's subtle but it's there but in any event to bring it back that's why Omerita it it doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:38 this mean code of silence. The origins of that term are kind of mysterious. It's been speculated to bastardize low and word from Latin. But there's other theories too. But what it means it doesn't just mean silence. It means
Starting point is 00:05:57 manly honor. It means virtue in the classical sense. It means upright conduct. It means stoicism. It means humility. and the reason you don't cooperate with the authorities
Starting point is 00:06:18 it's not just because it's not just street shit like well that's a punk move I mean it is but the thing is that you know we're under occupation and even if you know even if you're testifying on your enemy if he's one of our people you know you're collaborating with the occupier and what does that say about you?
Starting point is 00:06:42 That makes you a race trader. You know, so we don't do that. And extrapolated to the new world, okay, Italian Americans came here voluntarily and a lot of them identified strongly with America, but the police, and in particular, the federal government, they were a hostile outside element you know and
Starting point is 00:07:16 one of the reasons they went after the mafia was such aggressive fervor was because that it represented a subcultural element outside of the regime's rules and moors you know so the same principle applies and
Starting point is 00:07:35 I went on this research tangent because one of the things I'm emphasizing is how that's a critical aspect of vanguardism and resistance and also building an enduring cadre structure once
Starting point is 00:08:04 revolutionary ambitions are realized you know I cite that Praden book, the Michael Pradden book on Genghis Khan a lot I got turned out of that book it used to get cited a lot by by philologists. So the last crop of genuine philologists in the European Academy, post-war, obviously, that was no longer really a discipline.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But it was required reading at SS Juncker-Schul. And Yakum Piper, he chose to graduate to graduate. from the young school you had to write the equivalent of a master's thesis and defend it
Starting point is 00:08:55 I'd imagine you have to do something similar if you go to the U.S. Army War College you know but
Starting point is 00:09:02 Piper he wrote his paper on what's called Yasa Yasa is the Mongol oral law that dealt with
Starting point is 00:09:18 everything from criminal justice to you know military obligations that you have to the con and your superior officers or the equivalent thereof
Starting point is 00:09:35 your tribal superiors in war and peace to you know how how debts and obligations are managed between you know men within the clan
Starting point is 00:09:51 and it was explicitly forbidden to be written down. So you had to memorize it. And this was something that was viewed as essential, the cohesion of the Mongols, as, you know, not just as an effective military element, but as a, It was a sense of its ability to perpetuate its own heritage and secure its own posterity as a people. And Piper's interest in the subject matter was twofold.
Starting point is 00:10:44 It was, you know, obviously every aspiring SS officer realized he was going to be fighting a race war in the East. But also there was a lot of respect afforded to the mom. goals by the Third Reich and particularly the military academic establishment and the reasoning was that the SS was taking on a similar function as YASA with its own codes and practices and habits and things. So that's interesting. And that's why I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:38 But that, you know, people need to begin looking at themselves in a discrete subcultural capacity and stop identifying with regime culture. You know, that's what I stuff like pride
Starting point is 00:11:58 month is slipping because like people just aren't tolerating it anymore as far as I can tell in a lot of a lot of private sector firms that were drawing their sponsorship of this nonsense but like aside from that people shouldn't be rage triggered by that shit that's got nothing to do with us like yeah it's gross it's offensive but what those are the others you know they're the degenerate normies like why do we care what they do you You know, that's just one example. But I, you know, it's a good litmus test, man. Like these people who are raised triggered by what some regime parasiting Congress is doing
Starting point is 00:12:48 or what, you know, the Supreme Court is handing down as if it has authority to, you know, to issue Dick Tots on anything. You know, that's got nothing to do. with us. We're building something independent of that and the all we need to worry
Starting point is 00:13:09 about us our ability to protect ourselves, keep the regime from insinuating itself and our affairs in a punitive capacity you know and figuring out ways to guard against that and preclude it and in instances where it can't be precluded, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:25 the fight against it um by whatever means necessary and appropriate. But I think that... I think people are kind of getting the picture. Well, I think people are holding on to something that just doesn't exist anymore. When you hear, you know, people say personnel, personnel is policy.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Personnel does not exist in a system. Personnel is not policy in a system that changes every two and four years. I mean, this is something that only exists in its current form so that small groups like Jews can operate it because they're, because they, they, they, it possesses all of the same kind of characteristics that they have. It's to dominate others. It's to make it be whatever, how a Jew can be blefwing. one day and right wing the next day, the regime takes on the characteristics of those who manipulate it. And to think that you're going to be able to take this over and be able to do it forever, like we're going to hold on to it is fundamentally not understanding what the regime
Starting point is 00:14:52 is. And really technically or honestly, it is being. politically illiterate. Yeah, it's the latter. I mean, that's true, but yeah, I, well, I mean, that's the whole thing. It's a social engineering apparatus, the purpose of which is to strip away people's ability to live historically and draw upon historical and spontaneous and organic, uh, very you know to derive an identity and they'll live a communitarian life so
Starting point is 00:15:40 this isn't a question of policy being a hijacked that's why the regime exists that's what it's supposed to do and it's it's you know its purpose in
Starting point is 00:15:56 achieving globalism at scale is to eradicate historically based identities and identity and characteristic
Starting point is 00:16:10 you know even I mean even where that not the case I don't understand the people it's not as if there's people alive today
Starting point is 00:16:21 who remember the 19th century or something that there's nobody alive today who you know remembers the world before the new revolution and what are they
Starting point is 00:16:36 I guess they have some idea that the Reagan administration was some like splendid utopia or something you know but like I said not on side I think that doesn't mean you should no go ahead I think a lot of it just has to do with not
Starting point is 00:16:53 with not being able to let go of the engineering that like the government is the people kind of thing like the government is the ethnos, the ethnos. And you, you still hear people say stuff like, you know, hey, this is, you know, this is about, you know, this country is my family and everything. This is about my family and my heritage. And it's like, well, it's not. The government is not
Starting point is 00:17:24 that. I mean, maybe, maybe a segment of the people are. But I mean, look at what you can, if you can't get, if the 14th Amendment allowed. somebody to be in a plane over the United States and give birth, and then they can apply for, like, if they give birth over the, over the United States, they can apply for American citizenship and get it. You don't have a country. You don't have an, your ethnos is, your ethnos is who, who you choose to align with. It's not this, you know, group of people, These are the same people who will remind you there are still libtards in South Africa
Starting point is 00:18:06 that there are white libtards in South Africa and they're just they're not willing to let go of this the fact that this isn't even the government that the founders gave them. 1933 changed that. Well, it's also, you realize too, when you hear Normie's talk, These are the same people who they quite literally think that the arbitrary laws passed down by their locale or by the state government to the federal regime are somehow sacrosanct or something.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like it's some like grave moral. Like you literally can't leave your house without committing probably like a dozen crimes at eight, like technically crimes. And there's actually a really interesting book on that. You know, so, but these are the same, but these are the same fools who declare that, you know, well, if you, if you break the law, you've got to go to jail. And these are the same people, too, are convinced that if, if there's not thousands,
Starting point is 00:19:15 about thousands of police and every municipality, that people will immediately begin raping and looting and, and burning everything down, which I find incredible that anybody would think that way. You know, you must, uh, and I mean, if that was true, okay well that means you live in a failed society in a failed state so why why why would you be attached to the government anyway you know if the only thing holding together if you only
Starting point is 00:19:43 precluding like genocidal anarchy and repean and mass destruction is the is police with armolites why why would you why would you have any affinity for that government you know apparently you live in a totally failed society you were that the case. I mean, I was that it's not the case, but, you know, within within their minds, if they think that, well, okay, why would, why would you have any loyalty to that system? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I can't, I really can't understand that. I mean, these are people who are, you know, who are genuinely smart, genuinely, I'm talking about people who, you know, I know. And I'm just, I don't know what it's going to. take. I don't know how seeing how the Supreme Court will give you like, oh, a girl, a man can't go in a women's locker room now. You have to, you really have to cheer on, cheer on the fact that we don't want women, we don't want men and women's locker rooms. But any fucking jeet that comes here and spits out a fucking tar baby like Vivek Rabaswamy, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's
Starting point is 00:21:02 an American now. Well, yeah. I mean, I, well, it's also the whole, the one can explain to me why the process of judicial review is some sacrosanct thing. And people don't understand either that it's not in the Constitution. Barbara versus Madison is not some expressly delegated
Starting point is 00:21:25 power. Judicial review doesn't make any sense. And, you know, there's something fundamentally Semitic, this notion that we're in constant danger of an imperial executive, but we need this sort of rabbinic council of crazy academics and randos, you know, to interpret the, through exegesis, the secret revelations within the constitution, and then issue these, these dictates.
Starting point is 00:22:01 That's, that's an oriental and, and Semitic way of doing things. It's not the way we do things. You know, so this idea that I, it's always been a mystery to me why every president to, I mean, I know why I'm being facetious, you know, throws his hands up and it's like, well, you know, the rabbinic council at nine says, you know, has issued its, as issued its declaration, we almost just abide it. That's like, why, man, I'm not, I'm not some Bedouin. I'm not some, I'm not some wandering view who's got to like abide to the,
Starting point is 00:22:36 tribal elders you know I think like that doesn't that doesn't mean shit to be in you know and there's not
Starting point is 00:22:42 there you know I cite Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. a lot he law is a conceptual illiterate it's they
Starting point is 00:22:51 they think he was a big liberal or something because they don't understand the American system and they don't understand the law
Starting point is 00:22:56 Holmes's the point was that all the Supreme Court's doing is it's dressing up ideological
Starting point is 00:23:06 preferences as, you know, some sort of science of the law that is being revealed according to, you know, aspects of things expressly stated as well as implicitly coded into the letter of the law that laymen supposedly can't discover. It's nonsense. The law is, it's semantics and somewhat arbitrary. conventions within a closed system that when it works as intended basically is a is a paradigm of formal logic you know uh it's not it's not some it's not some deep philosophy of ethics or some sort of science of uh whereby you know equity can be disturbed and according to logically coded variables
Starting point is 00:24:14 that can be identified by experts. Like, that's nonsense. You know, and we don't, but I mean, we don't abide that kind of thing anyway. You know, in a white Christian society, we don't look at the law as some, like, sacred, holy thing.
Starting point is 00:24:35 You know, a law that doesn't reflect, you know, a practical reason. and, you know, the will of God and basic morality is worthless. Well, you know, not to mention, you know, the ability of it to be enforced
Starting point is 00:24:58 that doesn't mean anything. You mentioned a white Christian society, and these people are wondering why the Supreme Court doesn't work for them when, you know, you have women on it. And you have Jews on it. And, you know, the best person on the Supreme Court right now is a, it's black. It's like, I mean, you're, they're laughing at you.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, they're literally laughing at you. Yeah, they're literally laughing at you. Also, like, why is, why, why is the Supreme Court one-third Jewish? Like, you know, like, nobody, um, I thought, uh, aren't we always hearing about a proportional representation between between discrete populations that constitute, you know, the pastiche of the American melting pot is so important.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But also these fools like Elaine Kagan, that kind of like sad, dumpy, you know, like she actually has a Trotsky. She's like this old Trotsky, it's fossil of the sort, um,
Starting point is 00:26:12 you know, that, that was uh that cut their teeth uh you know in activism in the late cold war uh agitated against the Reagan administration um so this this woman is some uh she's some bizarre extremist partisan who was a career academic you know uh the judges are also they i made this point before and actually some authority to speak on this uh i mean unfortunately I've seen this system from many different angles. I actually was a lawyer,
Starting point is 00:26:51 and I've also had to defend myself in court, I guess, for what he just. I mean, it's not funny. It's just kind of fucked up. But no, and I've been pretty lucky because,
Starting point is 00:27:04 um, in life and all kinds of ways, but I, but judges have generally, they have no understanding of the law whatsoever. They're, their political appointees by and large. Or in jurisdictions they're elected, there's politicians.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like, I'm not being a seizes or just being a dick to make a point. They literally have no understanding of the law and its application. Well, there are jurisdictions where you can be a judge without being a lawyer. Yeah. But even, uh, I, uh, and locally at least, uh, I, uh, and locally at least, uh, I, I, I've seen as my own eyes. Some of these judges are literally senile. Like, they're suffering from dementia, and it's obvious.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You know, and that's, that's terrifying if, uh, you're under indictment or, you know, being charged with a felony by, uh, information. Um, but this idea that, uh, judges have any idea what, of the subject matter they are charged with dealing with is absurd. you know and uh
Starting point is 00:28:26 I've always found it offensive I mean to me I always had to stifle a laugh because like I anytime I've been in court it's like there's just like something dumpy con in a dress you know and it's like
Starting point is 00:28:39 I why am I like treating some man in a dress like you sound like like you said like you sound like dignitary you know uh I like in a I like in the Turner Diaries uh
Starting point is 00:28:51 the uh the uh the fair punk of the organization like the Death Squad element when they when they on the day of the rope when they start slaughtering everybody like every
Starting point is 00:29:04 regime criminal they get their hands on they uh when they hang judges they force him to put their robes out and this one judge is fighting and he's refusing to like let them put the robe out and they're like look like we're going to hang you out we're going to hang you from this lamp post and you're going to
Starting point is 00:29:20 stay there until you're like rotten and stinking you can either wear your robes or we're going to just hang you, they're naked. Well, they also, too, like, they have no, they have no understanding of the consequences of their actions. Like, it cuts both ways and all that everybody, especially these Fox News faggotts like, to have this idea that, you know, if you're a criminal, you know, you deserve everything you get. It's like loss on them that all the people are arrested who aren't criminals and get fucked up by the police for no reason or for political reasons. You know, like our friends who got jammed up on January 6th, for example.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But, you know, judges, first of all, yeah, when they cut loose some, like, violent hoodor that then goes on to the, they hurt or God would kill a bunch of people. They don't care of this. They don't care of this. They give him some super high bond. It ends up county jail and gets, like, eaten alive or, like, fucking raped or something. Why would they case? It's not compute.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Like, they just cheat a person, you know? And, you know, I said, I've been lucky, man. like the judge they had to appear in front of them. These same fucking race traders will then, these same fucking race traders will then make fun and be like, oh man, he's going to get raped in there or something like that. I mean, these people are just total scum.
Starting point is 00:30:42 They're not your friends. They're not your brothers. I've never understood why normie's, yeah, like, I don't, I don't understand. I mean, I guess they're just like repressed gays or sadistic. Like, why, I don't understand this, like, Normie fixation where they like get all like hot and bothered about the prospect of people being raped in prison. Like why is that awesome or cool?
Starting point is 00:31:03 And like what's what does that have to do with the penal system? Like like why would it even make it like a causal connection there or suggest that that's some sort of like equitable outcome? Like I don't understand what like homosexual rape has to do with criminal justice. It seems to me a bunch of closet case fags who they want some pre. re-taxed be able to fantasize about people being sexually assaulted. But, um, I mean, thank God. I've been, I've been very lucky, man, with both at every level of the criminal justice system.
Starting point is 00:31:41 You know, I can't sing and dance, and I'm certainly not handsome. But I think I do in some ways of the gift they gab. And, uh, people generally don't want to fuck me up. So, uh, you know, and to be clear, I've never had to spend more than a few days in, in the county jail. But Cogany Jail is the worst place on earth, man. You know, and when I've been in there, nobody tried to do anything bad to me. Even when I was the only white dude in the bullpen. And the judges I appeared in front of, like, some are cooler than others, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:21 they treated me pretty well, man. and uh you know i don't i don't really like the police but the police unfortunately you know there was a time i was getting arrested a lot the police never like beat my ass or anything like that like the worst thing that happened like i said is when i when i caught my charges uh this big polack dude uh we call them the jump out guys here because uh they were civilian clothes and like ball caps like they were they were body armor what if you just see them roll by
Starting point is 00:33:01 they'd be riding like a honda civic or like a forward focus they they they ride around like civilian rides you know and then they'll like jump out and roll people like at the dope spot or if they if they know a guy's got a warrant and they're like shadowing him you know then they'll just like jump out and roll them and like pull him in the car and then like disappear but uh it was uh one of those guys guys who arrested me and then a blue and white came to back him up but that dude tackled me and uh i got a little bit banged up and he apologized uh you know um i'm not saying it's okay to like roll people and i don't i don't think he was trying to hurt me he seemed generally remorseful and uh
Starting point is 00:33:51 he asked me if wanted to go to the hospital and i'm like no of course not but uh so it wasn't like a a kind of thing. But I know some of people have had awful experiences with the cops and, you know, I've, uh, and the courts and otherwise and in jail. You know, I've been very lucky in life in spite of my own foolishness. But, uh, but the point being, man, like, I don't, that's why I resent it and I push back when people have the skewed view of the courts, whether it's, you know, that the state's attorneys and the cops are always right and the good, or the good guys that, you know, the problem
Starting point is 00:34:27 just liberal judges is like, man. Look, man, there's just so many judges who will cut some savage Simeon loose, who, you know, has obviously got violent background. There's just as many judges who will, like, take someone like white dude and, like, throw him in the county lock up when he hasn't done anything. And that's just as bad. You know, it's not, you do it. I'm going to do the time.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I was like, you don't understand, though, if you haven't done anything, this can happen to you. And plus, too, like, what isn't a crime? You know, I mean, if it, uh, if tomorrow, you know, it became a death penalty offense to smoke a cigarette outside of your house, does that mean you deserve to die if, like, you step outside, you know, when you're having a scotch at the local bar to smoke a cigarette, like, well, that's the law. You broke the law. You know, that's, well, I think a lot. know behavior, way to name only behavior. Well, I think a lot of people would say they don't believe that everything that a judge passes down is gospel.
Starting point is 00:35:40 But I think what they think is, is, oh, if I could only get my friends appointed, like, federal judges or something like that. I mean, I could understand on the county level, sheriffs, stuff like that, because it could definitely you can do more locally and definitely hold off, be able to mitigate federal interference if you have some, if you have a sheriff that's not willing to participate with the feds. But I mean, the system as itself is like you're not going to get your people. You're not going to get your people, you know, to take over this government. This government is completely out of control. It's a leviathan. And it's,
Starting point is 00:36:26 you're delusional. You're holding on to something that, you know, it's, it's literally like you're arguing. Yeah, it'd be like if, no, it'd be like if during the, it'd be like if during the, it'd be like if during the, the martial law era in Poland, you know, and, you know, and, in, Geraselsky took the reins of government and, you know, we thought in Robball I was going to invade. It'd be like a bunch of these Sims types in the Soviet Union. We're like, yeah, you know, we got to put our people in the right positions in the Communist Party. Like, why would they even occur to you?
Starting point is 00:37:18 You know, the like nullification obviously is the way forward. And but you're not a localism. Like I said, I'm probably repeating myself. But if I am, I'm sorry. but I you know it's important because it's a real world example I mean this was like years back now but you know like I told you and the fellows uh you know years back um when I was staying in Baltimore and me and my girl would go to Harper's Ferry on the weekends like we got to we got to know the like the local sheriff and we'd invite him to shoot with us and and you know when he was off duty
Starting point is 00:37:59 like on New Year's we invited him over not because we thought he was so awesome he was an alright guy but uh you know and we uh I uh I used to uh I convinced my girl and like flurred them a little bit
Starting point is 00:38:15 and shit too and uh so like this dude decided like we were his buddies you know and uh because it's obvious we got to know him because uh the guy we hang out with he was this dude Steve and he had
Starting point is 00:38:28 you know, a few acres. He had this really cool, like, log cab. And it was pretty luxurious, man, you know. Yeah, he had some cash. But this sheriff, we noticed, he got done, like, pulling down the road and then, like, doing a three-point turn. And if this happened, like, three-igs and a row,
Starting point is 00:38:47 it's like, okay, man, this guy's, like, wondering what we're up to. So, like, we just, like, went out and said, like, hey, man, like, how are you doing? You know, I'm like, uh, I'm Thomas, uh, you know, This is my girl. This is my friend Steve. This is our other friend. You know,
Starting point is 00:39:01 I'm like, anytime you want to hang out with us, you're welcome to, you know, uh, and at first he was kind of like looking at it, sort of like side, he was kind of giving us like the side eye.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And, uh, this is a winner of my battle jacket on and I had a lot of like third rank vages and stuff. And, uh, this, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:20 this dude, was a, he was a bodybuilder with like a lot of tasks and stuff. And he looked kind of like a maniac. So I think these flatfoots thought, you know, and this, this was like, this was a matter of weeks before, like January 6th happened. And this flat foot stopped and we were like, we were like running a some like white boy al-Qaeda camp or something. But point being, it was like twofold. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's like, look. All right. Now this dude, like, thinks of his buddies. certainly it's like i've already taken a bunch of selfies of him like drinking beer with me of him like hugging on my girl of him like shooting with us so it's like look motherfucker you decide you want to indict us man like i'm gonna introduce all this shit okay into court and i'm gonna put it all over my social media you know um so that's uh you know that's important i mean yeah ideally an actual friend of yours is uh the local heat but most of the time that's
Starting point is 00:40:24 not possible, but whoever he is, you should make front of them. And a place like West Virginia, man, yeah, I'm not saying that most people there are on side, but most people, they don't like the government. They don't want to look their ass and bothering them, you know, and so you make friends with people and they come to enjoy your company and associate you with positive feelings. you know, they're going to get protective of you. Like, people think it sounds corny,
Starting point is 00:40:58 I'm sure, but a couple years back, I shouted out that one of the reasons why I I'm sort of discriminating in, like, the clones I pick. I mean, I kind of like fragrances, but also if people associate you with, he's like, oh, he's that
Starting point is 00:41:20 dude who, like, smells good. That triggers subconscious feelings of, like, goodwill. And if you do stuff like sending people a Christmas card with, like, a $50 bill on it on Christmas, you know, same deal. People will be like, hey, that's that guy who smells good and gives me money. Like, people are really kind of primitive, man, you know. And a little shit like that can ingratiate you to the local sheriff if you're sort of laying roots down. in rural America.
Starting point is 00:42:00 You know, and I think too many guys and girls they develop like this sort of like bunker mentality. You know, it's like, look, man, the whole reason you move out of the city or the suburbs and laid on roots like dad is to build social capital. It's like so do it, man, you know? And people generally will be receptive, you know? And that's why I got so much respect For my homie Anthony
Starting point is 00:42:25 He's just like a good dude And you know He and his wife treat me like family And they're cool But you know he You know he's a he's a He's a peasant from L.A You know
Starting point is 00:42:35 And he's He's like when he was You know He was like a He was like a white boy punk Like suicidal tendencies kind of guy You know And then he
Starting point is 00:42:48 You know He became like a successful lawyer Moved out of the Oregon coast And now he's like a community leader reason, you know? And he, uh, he, uh, he went to bat for a bunch of people during like the COVID shit. Like, you know, Anthony, like you and he, you and he talked about, uh, the fact of the libertarians being like, do nothing faggots, you know, um, and, uh, yeah, I thought, you know, it's, he's doing things exactly the way people should do things in terms of, uh, you know, cultivating a vanguard tendency.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Well, you know, one of the things we were talking about it, not to give way too much about what we were talking about at the conference, was just, you know, how people are doing stuff locally and how locally you build that social capital and how, you know, you have all these people who think, you know, we just got to get this person elected into Congress and we got to get this person doing this and doing that. And it's like, no, no, motherfucker. You have to figure out how to feed people. You have to figure out how to protect people. Then you are seen as the authority. You're not the authority because you get elected to, you're carrying some title. You're the authority because you could protect people and you can feed them.
Starting point is 00:44:18 That's what people fucking want. That's what normies want. If you have Normies on your side, you know, locally, and they look up to you and they respect you, you're going to, that goes a long way towards combating the globalist agenda, for sure. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you've got to curate a vanguardist sensibility while also being able to swim within the sea of Normies. That's guerrilla warfare 101. And the chats, I mean, saying, there's probably no sense. which movement is that people are moving are so spread out and disjointed,
Starting point is 00:44:56 no or not, people come to see me every single week. I traverse this country over the road, half the year. I can hop off anywhere and I find a cow to sleep on. We're everywhere. The only place I couldn't do that that I know of is Hawaii, because I don't know nobody there. I even know people up in Alaska.
Starting point is 00:45:17 We're not disjointed at all. We're far, far, far more integrated. integrated with each other than normies. Normies can't hop off a bus in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska. Shout out on social media where they're at. And I have 10 guys say, hey, you can come crash on my couch. I'm an hour from where you're at. I can do that.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And I'm not special. I know 100 other guys can do the same thing. A hundred. I mean, having 100 guys is way more important right now than having, you know, oh, look, look at the Normies. look at the normies love me look at like you know like someone like tim pool it's like oh look how many people watch my show and send me money and everything like that yeah but no one's willing to take a bullet for tim pool you know no one's willing to friggin you know also those people who
Starting point is 00:46:17 fuck with tim pool that and those people who fuck with tim pool they don't even know their neighbors you know i mean like they're you know i um you know i uh What's also, too, I mean, I don't, I'm always making the point about the Northern Ireland situation. I mean, not just because for cultural reasons, I find it relevant. But it's, it's relevant to the, to the tactical situation. You know, and the provo's at least. I mean, they had a lot of community support. But in terms of direct action operators and hitters, at any given time, they had like 150 guys.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You know, and they, they were holding the crown at bay. You know, I mean, you don't, you don't need to convince a million people of your position. And why would you want to do that anyway? It was like Messker said. What would we do with these people? we had them. We're not a megachurch. You know, we're not,
Starting point is 00:47:43 we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not,
Starting point is 00:47:46 we're not, um, that, uh, that, that, that, that doesn't mean you can get things done if, if, if you're not,
Starting point is 00:47:56 plugged with the zeitgeist, but obviously we are. And I mean, that, you know, that's a different, that's a different, um, subject matter. But it's not,
Starting point is 00:48:10 it's, it's not a numbers game unless you're, it's, you're, and unless you're trying to sell people a product or uh you know like i said unless you're unless you're running some political action committee that's uh tailored around um some sort of single issue uh advocacy or something like that you know like it um so if i went out if i went out tomorrow if somehow I could I could reduce the
Starting point is 00:48:43 the thesis of this book I just wrote to some sort of bumper sticker platitude and if I could go out and get two million signatures saying of people saying they agree with that would I like win something if I did that you know like I
Starting point is 00:49:01 would I like win the internet or what I or do I get like a medal or something I don't I don't understand what they would accomplish you know but like I said at the top of yaw or I'm like I I don't understand why people get rage triggered or baited by this fucking garbage the regime is up on or what normies are responding to it's got nothing to do with me it's got nothing to do with my peoples this fucking bullshit normies to all kinds of dumb fucking lame stupid degenerate shit you know it's got nothing to do with me it's got nothing to do with me that just like reaffirms my commitment to you know flying a um an um an outlaw flag yeah i think that people are um like i said that's the litmus test yeah i think people are a lot of people are just in fear you know oh antifa is going to come and get me the the left is going to come back in power it's like what what left i mean yeah sure there are
Starting point is 00:50:11 are some there are some people on the left who will definitely um use the power of the state to come after you but so will the fucking rabbi's in charge right now so i mean what well where's the well yeah where's you do right well also i mean if your numbers up your numbers up i mean don't get me wrong there's there's men who do incredibly stupid things and you know go out of their way to cultivate self-defeating circumstances in their own life. You know, and I think a lot of them are doing it on purpose,
Starting point is 00:50:51 whether they realize it or not. Excluding that kind of thing. And again, this may be my Calvinist heritage talking. I mean, I'm sure it is, at least in part, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:04 what's going to happen is going to happen. Like, why am I going to sit around worrying about, oh, gee, the police might jam me up for no reason or, or the, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:13 the regime might set me up on some bullshit because some state's attorney just decided he doesn't like me or, you know, I made an enemy of the wrong person or whatever. Yeah, that could happen. I mean, I also might wake up tomorrow and have cancer. Both those things would suck, but, yeah, okay, I mean, life can be scary and unpleasant, man, I'm not, I'm not going to sit around worrying about things. you know you
Starting point is 00:51:43 you got to kind of roll with the punches man I mean cliché as I might sound you know and uh I mean admittedly maybe it's easier too I mean I'm going to be 50 in a few weeks there's more time behind me than in front of me so you worry less
Starting point is 00:52:01 when you're at that juncture you know um but even if you're a young dude man it's you know what's going to happen is going to happen. That doesn't mean you go out and act foolish. There'll be cavalier about stuff and, you know, pretending you're bulletproof or alternatively, you know, acting out some sort of suicidal ideation because, you know, what does it matter anyway? I'm not saying that at all,
Starting point is 00:52:30 quite the contrary. But you don't accomplish anything by like worrying about shit. And if you're that, if you that spun out and that neurotic, well, I guess you can't. take on a partisan commitment because you're not built for it and that's okay but don't don't don't put on airs and then like act like a pussy or some neurotic weirdo you know um yeah i mean it can imagine in 2020 imagine in 2020 just sitting around and worrying you know people call me black pill because I say, look, politics, you know, national politics, you've been brainwashed into believing if you just vote for the right person, that that person's going to step in and change everything and make everything perfect.
Starting point is 00:53:22 There's never been a perfect. There will never be a perfect. And you're just going to have to do shit that, you know, you're, I think people have this idea that, like, you know, 1935 Germany was perfect. Everything, everybody was like, you know, there was no. degeneracy anywhere and people were people were dancing in the streets and yada yada yada and they don't realize that there is no fucking perfect you're not we're fallen we're a fallen fucking people and there's not going to be a perfect the best that you can do is find people that you share
Starting point is 00:54:00 values with get together with them you know tribe up and do your best because even doing that even doing that in a location also is not going to work Yeah, well, people also don't realize how fortunate they are. You're very, very lucky if you live in America. Like I know that sounds corny, but the amount of wealth here is unbelievable. I mean, still, the amount of wide open space here is staggering. And the third right was, there was incredible things there. but that also that that system came about because because a massive race war was also imminent like a lot of these people who talk that way they they are definitely not built to fight a fucking race war with uh against the communists on a 2000 mile front you know uh the fact that we can even talk about nullification as an option and we're not sitting here
Starting point is 00:55:16 devising strategies to protect our families, you know, and make sure that our women don't get raped to death, like, while we're off fighting some genocidal war against a mortal enemy that is substantially threatening us, you know, within intimate proximity, uh, people are pretty lucky you don't have to deal with that here. You know, the fact that you can build a vanguard, you know, you can't. hand-practice a nullification strategy. The fact that there's these potentialities at the table, it should be
Starting point is 00:55:54 a huge white pill to people, but they've got their head up their ass. They, you know, but again, that's a litmus test too, man. This is a large country. Having fucked up stupid ideas. This is a large country with a lot of land, land that I've traveled to and that I've
Starting point is 00:56:12 seen with my own, I've seen libertarian cities in this town where people don't lock their doors where people don't worry about their shit getting stolen. They're not worried about getting their throat slit by some fucking non. But it's like they, it's almost like they need this doom porn because, you know, it's like they're not willing to do what needs to be done in order to get through. They're waiting for somebody to come and save them.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Even people who like can speak the language that, you know, I can understand or that we would be like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. they're just they're they they it's almost like they want something bad to happen so that they can say i told you so my wife got raped by a bunch of fucking muslims i told you so i told you that muslims were really bad you know i mean these people they they have main character or it's also like it's it's like kind of that that and it's also it's also it's like a loser mentality Like, nothing's my fault. No matter what I do, it's impossible to succeed because the system's against me. It's, it's, it's, it's like a white, it's like it's white nigger syndrome. You know, I can't, I can't do anything because the system's against me. You know, that's, and that's, that's, that's, that's garbage thinking.
Starting point is 00:57:38 You know, that's not the way, that's not the way, that's not the way you think about shit if you're a white man. Yeah. I mean, you know, you, you, once you. Let me just say this. Once you tribe up with people and, you know, you know, no, no, take your time. Yeah, once you drive up with people and you're like out there and you're talking about things publicly, you put a target on your back.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You know, that's why that's why it's like, yeah, I mean, I can understand the Anon on Twitter and everything, but I'm not going to listen to an Anon say anything rude to me because motherfucker, this is my face, that's my name, and I'm out here saying shit that the regime fucking hates. And if I get fucking drone strikes or get a bullet in the back of my head one day, that's the fucking choices I made.
Starting point is 00:58:35 You make a choice of being anonymous on the internet and bitching and moaning, and I made this choice. So go fuck yourself. Well, no, exactly. Well, also, like, I don't understand what the point of that is. I mean, because it's just their kids.
Starting point is 00:58:54 You know, I, I, I, I, I want to bitch about things on the internet and, um, you know, act like, act like a fucking weirdo. I, I, I, like, I, I, like, I, I'm sure, I'm repeating myself, but, um, no, this was, uh, this was a good, uh, this was a good use of an hour, man, uh, thanks for collaborating with me. And, uh, well, I missed it. I apologize to the so, being kind of a nerd, man,
Starting point is 00:59:27 like I said. It's been, it's been three weeks since we did this and I missed it. Yeah. And the last time, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:33 you did one without me, so, yeah, sorry. I wish I could have made that one. No, don't be sorry. I had to,
Starting point is 00:59:44 I had to cancel last week, too, because I, I just wasn't feeling up to it, man. I, uh,
Starting point is 00:59:50 you know, once again, I apologize with the subs for being kind of inert. But I, you know, like I said, I,
Starting point is 00:59:58 obviously I'm not at 100% yet, but I'm getting back to what pays for normal for me. Is this something I go through? I plan to be around for a minute, God willing. So thanks for sticking by me even when I'm not real productive. And I think I'm basically caught up on correspondence, but I've been a little slow in responding to text and stuff. Unless it's something urgent because I'm still not back 100% yet.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Please don't feel so I'm going to wait if like please go by and I'll answer your text. I will answer it. It's just, uh, you know, like I said, man, like my energy levels kind of vary. And, um, well, I'm excited because I don't want to respond to a serious query. I'm, I'm excited because we, I'm excited about our start chamber coming tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, let me know. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, we already said a time.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Yeah, yeah, no, that's great, man. That's great. Oh, yeah, and happy 4th, July, everybody. Some of our friends are in town. So I'm trying to save my strength because I want to make sure I don't miss anything in that regard. But, but yeah. I hope everybody has an opportunity to break bread and enjoy libations with, you know, their loved ones and their comrades. And, yeah, we'll be back with another live stream in a week.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And, yeah, we'll be dropping fresh stuff in coming days. Nice to have, everybody. Thanks for participating. And thank you, Pete. Of course, man.

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