The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on 'Coffee and a Mike' Talking About His Favorite Movies

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

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I guess this is becoming more of a theme. This is what Tom Luongo, I said, you know, because we talked about movies, Tom and I. And you and I touched on movies. And I'm like, you know, we can put the Armageddon and all that stuff on, you know, we'll plenty of time to revisit nuclear war and what happens in 25 with the administration and, you know, on and on and on. Let's lighten it up for a conversation and just talk about that, talk about movies.

And I don't know. Like it doesn't have to be. People always say doom, doom. But here's what's funny with Tom's episode. Some people are like, oh, this is great. Like, you know, so cool you guys. And other people are like, you should have put in the description that it was movie talk so we don't have to waste our. time and I'm like, I'm like, it's in the description. I just didn't announce it before we started

that we're going to talk about movies. People, people don't want to read. What are you talking about? So I don't know about you, man. I just, I have these like movies this time of year. You know, it's a little bit of downtime and, you know, some movies I can hang on to from my childhood and other movies you put on, you're like, oh man, five minutes of this. I can't do it. Like even Christmas story, I watched 20 minutes of it last night. I love that movie. But I just, you know, I just I don't know. I can't get through it anymore. Vacation I didn't watch. Christmas vacation, I didn't watch. Home alone, I've seen it so many times that I just, yeah.

You feel the same? Well, I mean, I didn't watch Christmas story last year, which I always like watch. I think one channel does it like 24 hours in a row. So I watched it like one time a year. And last year I didn't do it. And this year I didn't even see any of it. We did watch because we were over, I was over my in-law. We watched a good significant portion of Christmas vacation, which I hadn't seen in years,

so it was nice seeing that. And also a good portion of Home Alone. And Home Alone, just to me, doesn't stand up. It's just too corny. It's too cheesy. And it's just too, yeah, I just don't. There's nothing there for me. I mean, how could you, I know it's a kid's movie, but it's like he's got all this time

to prep for these robbers to come here. He could have just ran to the cop station. He runs at the store. He runs to the church. Like, I don't know. He's the villain of the show. He's the villain of the movie. I mean, he's a little nudnik.

I mean, just, why would you want, come on. Come on. I think my. You can tell in the, in the interaction with the cashier, you know, when he's just, he's just a rude little shit. I mean, it's. Well, I think my fondest memory of that movies, I remember going to the theater to see it. I was in seventh grade. And that was a big deal for your parents to drop you off.

You know, we had our Z. Cavariccichies on. And we went to the mall back when it was still cool to go to the mall. And we couldn't wear your raider starter jacket in the mall, especially in Cleveland. Like if you did that, people would try to steal it from you. And going to see that movie in the theater. Yeah. No, it was They're good movies. You can watch them with your, people can watch them with young kids. Christmas vacation, there's a couple parts in that that are kind of tough to watch with the kids

because, you know, he does drop a couple F-bombs in there and there is some very adult humor. But as far as a Christmas story goes, and as far as Home Alone, I mean, Home Alone has a lot of violence. So if you want to keep your kid away from watching violence, you'll have to... But then again, so does a Christmas story. But the violence and a Christmas story is you know, you're beating up the bully. So I guess it's good violence. So there was a movie on last night. I'm embarrassed to even say this.

Although I didn't get all the way through it. But when I was a kid, it was cool. It was a movie called The Santa Claus. Not the Tim Allen one, but it was the Santa Claus. They had Dudley Moore was his top elf and John Lithgow. Do you remember that at all? I didn't watch it, but I know which one you're talking about. Oh, yeah, I headed on for like 10 minutes.

It's terrible. Little drunk British guy. That's what you want in a movie. But, but you know, another Christmas, you know, Die Hard, I've heard that lethal weapon. A friend of mine pointed out, he's like, when you rewatch Lethal Weapon, that movie's bad. I still like it, though. I mean, it's just an action movie. You take those movies as action movies.

I mean, that's all you're supposed to do. You know, it's like, I know you and Long ago we're talking about, like, the first blood movies. And the first movie, you know, was really good. There was a good, and apparently there's a Christmas tree in the background, so that's a Christmas movie, too. But the, I mean, it's just a good movie, and it's a good story. And then, you know, after that, you just basically become, it becomes action movies. Rambo 3 was actually, like, propaganda, was State Department propaganda. You know, at the ending, it thanks the Mousha, you know, the brave fighters to the Mujahideen and everything.

Now they've changed it. They've changed it in later cuts and everything. But it was just basically State Department propaganda. And there was a lot of that in the 80s, though. I mean, what was Rocky, what was Rocky, what was it? Was Rocky four? The one where he fought Drago? Yeah, it was fourth one.

Third one was Mr. T. Yeah, the third one was Mr. T. I mean, what was that, but just Cold War propaganda? And it was, I mean, everything to the steroids, to him having to fight in Russia. I mean, it's just awful stuff. But, you know, you watch it because it's, bring it, remove your brain entertainment. Yeah, I mean, I love, there are a lot of movies that I like that are cerebral. But there's, but sometimes I just want to put something on and just enjoy it, you know.

It's like the James Bond movies or like the Mission Impossible movies. I don't want to use my brain a lot. I just want to enjoy it. I only got through the first two Mission Impossible's, but I think it was Tom and other people said they get better, the more they, the more see, the more,

Oh, yeah. Oh, the one right now that we're waiting for, waiting to come out, part two to come out. I think it's Ghost Protocol. that is, I mean, like a heavy take on AI. I'm like what AI could become everything.

So there's part, they're waiting for part two of that to come out. But, I mean, they do get better. I think they are, first, first one was good, second one was God awful. The third one was good. And they just get, they progressively get better after that because they're concentrating more on story. And also the characters are a little more interesting. interesting. And the more you get to know characters, the more invested you can be in it. You know, as long as the characters stay likable. You know, don't, I mean, they haven't really

gone woke. I'm sure somebody listened and says, no, no, and Mission Impossible Five, I don't care. But, um, it's not something that is so blatant. You know, it's like Robert Pattinson's the Batman. There are two spots in it that they make, there's two like distinctly woke comments, but I was waiting for so much more. But, you know, they just put it into everything now, so. Did you like the Batman and Robert Pattinson? Yeah, I actually did. I thought it was, I thought it was pretty decent.

I haven't seen the new, the new Penguin movie, and I'm not going to see the second Joker movie. I know that that's probably makes me anormy, because I know some people have been like, no, there are certain nuances. No, I'm good. I'm good. I don't, if I want to watch a music, I'll I'll watch something old. I'm not going to watch some stupid. It's a stupid superhero musical.

No, there's no nuances to it no matter what you think. There's nothing brilliant about it no matter what you think. I want it. I was going to go, people getting bored me, retelling the story, but my buddy and I, I have a friend that, he's a couple years older than me, and we just go to movies. Like, he loves to go to movies.

I love to go to the movies. There's just nothing out there to see anymore. And I said, let's go see the Joker. He doesn't care. I'm one of those people. I listen to The Critical Drinker on YouTube. If you ever watch that guy's channel, he's great.

When I was a kid, I loved Siskel and Iber. That was like my kind of go-to for movie reviews. What was everybody's go-to? But I'm like, let's just go. I won't read any reviews. I won't watch anything. And just to get out and do something. And I made the mistake for a Joker, too.

And I still haven't seen anything good about it. And I have not met one person that's watched it. in my life. Yeah. I heard Tim Dillon was talking about it and he was in it. And he said, yeah, I don't recommend anyone go see that movie. So that's all I did. It's a year.

Yeah. It's like it's just, it's just got awful. So, yeah, I don't, you know, if there are good movies being made right now, someone has to tell me about them. And I mean, I can't even really think about a movie that someone, told me to watch outside of like the Mission Impossible movies or something like that in the last few years it has been made in like the last four or five years now mind you i spend more more my time reading and researching than anything else i don't have i don't give myself a lot of downtime but

when i do have downtime i just spend it with my wife and we um we watch cooking shows from britain or something like that to see how got off all their food is no just kidding so it's right Did you see Godzilla minus one? I didn't see that, no. Is it good? I got to, all right. I want you to watch it now because I'm like, I'm one of my two for three of recommending that to people.

And some people, like, Collin was like, bad, bad, bad, bad. It's a bad one. He's like, wife didn't like it either. I thought the movie was great because it was different because it wasn't centered around Godzilla. Do you know anything about it? It's subtitled. It took place, so it's Japanese subtitled.

and it takes place right after World War II. And the premise of it is his kamikaze pilot gets cold feet and decides not to carry out his mission, so he diverts to a part of the island in Japan. Godzilla hits the island. I'm not ruining the movie for you. Godzilla hits the island,

and he hides, Godzilla goes away, the nukes get dropped, the war's over, Godzilla gets stronger, and he starts heading back to the island. The United States government sees this, and they said, well, screw it, let Japan deal with this. It's not our problem.

So the pilot throughout the whole movie is dealing with his guilt and shame because he did not, he ran away. Oh, okay. Yeah. But I got to tell you, it's really, really good. Like, and there's more to it than that. But they develop the character, the guilt that he has. It's centered around that.

And there's a woman and there's a baby. Don't tell me no more. Don't tell me no more. I'll watch it. I was watching the part. There's a scene, not to tell you the scene, but there's a scene where I'm like, so into this movie, I'm like, I cannot believe. I went and saw it in the theater.

They put it back in the theater. And I was, I can't laugh. And I'm like, I can't believe. I'm not into Godzilla. Like, that's just not my thing. And it was so good. But now you're going to watch it and you're going to hate it. I'll check it out.

I'll check it out. I, um, recently, the old glory club, you know, we do movie reviews every once in a while. And I haven't even been in on one. Thomas and I do private movie reviews that we put on Gumroad. We're actually getting ready to do our next movie tomorrow, which I think will definitely be our biggest seller, but we'll see. But they did a review of Sicario.

And I had seen Sicario when it first came out, but when it first came out, I was in a real apolitical mode. I really wasn't paying attention to a lot. After the, after the, after like the two, during the Obama years, I purposely just ignored politics. Because I knew how bad things were going to be. But when Trump decided to step into the ring and it was going to be himming Hillary, that's when I started paying attention to politics again.

So like when Sicario came out, I didn't really think about the political implications to it. And then so the guys reviewed it. And then I started, I watched it again. And then I watched it again. And I watched it like three times in like the last three weeks, you know, in like the last month. And I'm like, this is an amazing, amazing movie. It is, it basically speaks to the most important aspect, most important thing that we're dealing with today, immigration, with the cartels.

It basically is saying that there's a very implicit message or almost explicit message that a woman should not be in law enforcement. and it goes to show what like real heritage Americans can get accomplished if they they want to that you could actually stop all this bull. But it also shows that when it comes to politics and when it comes to international intrigue, you may have to go with the devil you know sometimes. I love that. I'm glad you brought that movie up.

I've been trying to get my sister to watch it. like forever and she won't it's a hard it's a hard movie for women to watch though i mean i won't let my i wouldn't even let my wife watch like the opening scene of it because i know she it'll it'll affect her it'll affect her mood and yeah she just doesn't like me i've gotten to the point where i don't really like movies with a lot of violence and also a lot of just people who have no no concept of humanity when you're dealing with people like that so i i i went and watched it again just because I think it's politically charged and then I watched

part two and I'm like, yeah, part two is really good too, shit. Part two is very, very good. Yeah. You know, that ending scene, the whole, you could do you could do a

like a two hour discussion just on the final scene of the movie when he closes that door and he sees that and the kid sees him and he closes a door and he says, you know, you're going to work for me now. And it's like you're just like, the implications of that,

of the things going on in that movie are just, they're astounding. So, so go back to the first one, and then we'll come back to this, go to the second one. But the end of the first one, to me,

when Benicio de Toro, and I love Benicio de Toro, man. I mean, usual suspects is one of my all-time favorite movies. You've probably seen that. Of course, yeah. Yeah.

Well, I mean, it's one of those movies that you really only have to see once, but you do watch it again. know you, you know, yeah, yeah. But when he, that scene with Emily Blunt at the end, when he makes her sign off on that agreement, he puts a gun under her, and then he says, and I couldn't hear the dialogue. I finally had to Google it because I couldn't make out what he was saying, but he says

something along the lines of, you should move to a small town where the rural law still exists. This is the land, you know, you're not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now. And then he takes apart her, her glock, throws it, and then she puts it together. and comes back out of the balcony and points it at him and he turns around and looks at her and she doesn't do it. And I was like, man, it feels like this is the world we're in now where certain parts of the country,

the rule of law doesn't exist. And you have to become this land of wolf. You are wolf. Yeah, no, it's, um, yeah, the, yeah, the hard part of that movie obviously is, um, the hardest part of that movie is the, the final scene when he confronts the mob boss.

at the dinner table. You know, because you know what he's going to do. You just, there's a part of you that doesn't want him to do it. You know, because you're human. And, but you did, you also didn't go through what he went through. But yeah, that, that last scene. And I heard you and Tom talking about Dark Night and how Dark Night was, you know, was like Christopher Nolan was trying to tell us what was coming.

And that we were, we were coming to lawlessness. And it, And really what it comes down to is, like in dark night, it's like, okay, so who, why is he, why is he able to get away with a lot of the things he's able to get away with? Why are the mobsters? Because all the cops are paid off. I'm not saying all the cops are paid off now, but basically cops are not, they're told not to do their jobs. And then you have DAs that are, you know, you don't know which, you don't know what kind of DA you're going to get. and it really was when you look at it from that aspect, when you look back at Dark Night,

or you look at Socario, what he's saying at the ending is, yeah, we're coming to the point where Thomas talks about how, this Thomas 777, he talks about how the early 90s and even into the mid-90s was lawlessness. Like if you lived in a city, like you knew people who, I knew people who were like ODing, like dying. I knew people who were killing themselves because of pills and stuff like that. And there was a certain kind of lawlessness on the streets that, like, Giuliani stepped in and, you know, put a cop on every corner to try and stop in New York City, places like that.

But, you know, where I was living in South Florida, they hadn't achieved that yet. And there were still a lot of weird stuff going on. But it's like that, it almost feels like we can get to that point very quickly. And by, like, times five now, if something doesn't happen, you know. I'm not saying that Trump's going to solve everything. I don't know what he's going to solve. I think it's all on us at this point. I think local politics is more important than anything

and finding your own people and being having a support system. But yeah, I mean, you can get, we can get to the point real quick where that is the default. And the person who would stand, you know, Batman, if a Batman rose up, you know, like, you'd be like Daniel Penny. As soon as they catch you, they're going to want to hang you. So it seems to me that some people either are benefiting from impending chaos and chaos in certain places, or they see that as some kind of strategy for the future in which they thrive and that they benefit by it.

Well, and that's what, you know, critics were, you know, judging the third, dark night rises. and that's what I saw the beauty in that film, because you saw society break down in that. Yeah, there were holes. Okay, yeah, he's in a cave with a closed circuit TV that he's watching Gotham because his back is broken. And then the cops are in underground for, what was it, three months or nine months,

and then they get out in the next day, they're arresting everybody. I mean, there was definitely flaws in the script. But the premise of it... There was also a scene in which the criminals are judging the corrupt politicians and you're like

hmm who could bring about who we're going to get order under you know I mean there are a bunch of questions about that movie where they're basically sentencing all these corrupt politicians

and police and everything to death they take over and what happens I mean, it was almost like it was a message. It was almost like a message of, you know, you might be better off with these people, having criminals. I mean, outright open criminals. You know, I used to say this when I was a libertarian. I used to say, if I had the choice to live in like a neighborhood that was run by like the local DA who's paid off and the cops who were, you know, just wanting a waiting for a pension or to live in a mob neighborhood in New York, you're much safer living in a mob neighborhood in New York

or a neighborhood where I remember seeing a documentary back in when I was a kid, I think it was in the early 80s where they were talking about how the Hells Angels actually had a clubhouse in Manhattan in Alphabet City. I'm not sure if it was in Alphabet City or right outside, but it was in that area of the section. And they were interviewing, like, they interviewed this old lady who, you know, they asked her and said, what is it like having the Hell's Angels live by you? She goes, well, if we have any problems in the neighborhood, we go to them before we go to the police.

So, you know, that whole dark night rises thing where it's like, okay, who's taking over and, you know, they're judging the people who are in charge. It's like what there's a huge, I think there's as huge a statement in that whole scene as there is that Nolan's making as huge a statement in that whole scene as he does in dark. night where you're like, oh, they can just walk into a party with the richest people in a city and basically take over. Well, then, you look at the re... It's one of my favorite trilogies, those three movies, because the first one I thought was great, too. Oh, the first movie's amazing. The first movie is so underrated.

So, I mean, Rajagul... I agree. He makes complete sense. I mean, when he's talking and he's like, you know, civilizations just have to be burned. I'm like, yes. They almost absolutely have to. And I forgot what his exact words were in that, but it was like, no, he didn't say judgment, but it was something like the long as like, reset, start over.

And that's where Bain came in to carry it out in the third one. But that was the premise of that whole trilogy. And it was like, because this is where we're at. And yet people still think, I mean, if you shave off 50 million off the government deficit, the deficit that's going to do anything. We're past all that. I'm sorry, we're just past all that. And no one, like, especially if you watch Dark Night.

Okay, so the opening scene, him standing on the corner waiting to be picked up, the music, that crescendo, that build, where it like builds to an absolute chaos. I mean, he's not only telling you the story in words and in pictures and indeed. He's telling you the story in music. Just watch Dark Night for the music. You will be absolutely floored at how perfect the music is and how the music is pretty much chaos right from the start. I mean, that trilogy really is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

I think I saw Dark Night in the theater like two. two or three times. Yeah, me too. I definitely saw it two times. Yeah. Well, and even, you know, when Morgan Freeman, when Christian Bale's able to figure out the sonogram with the sonogram, so he could track the whole city is under surveillance, and then he tells Morgan Freeman just type in your name and it'll blow up.

You know, if this was real world, they would never give up that power. No, no. I mean, only, I mean, okay, so, I mean, where was that, when was that, when was that made a couple years after palisier came into existence it was 08 that movie came out right oh 8 yeah yeah yeah and palin's here was already in existence right yeah yeah when the worry got the idea for that and how about the how about the end when gary oldman says to his son you know he's not the hero he's not the hero we need right now you know but i mean just god have such that movie that's a perfect movie yeah i mean sometimes he's going to have to become

he's going to have to become the villain. And then, of course, the making the choice, where he, basically, he say, oh, you make the choice, and he's like, I'm going to go after Rachel and everything like that.

And then it turns out that he's not. And what it, you know, I interpreted that to be, no matter what choice you make when it comes to, like, elite power, they are still going to pretty much get what they want. You may be able to influence it,

but they're going to get what they want. It, yeah, and I really wanted him to do this next Bond movie, man. He just announced he's doing The Odyssey, Nolan's next film. I just would have loved, and that's what Luongo and I were talking about. I would have loved a scene what he would done with vintage. I love James Bond. Although, if you listened, the Connery ones, I only saw Never Say Never Again. Yeah, no, I mean, I know that my buddies in the old Glory Club will get on me for saying this,

but I mean, I think Daniel Craig was just so perfect. Because, I mean, I grew up with Roger Moore. You too. And Roger Moore just, I don't care how many women were around. He just seemed gay. He seemed effeminate. Dalton was good. You know, Dalton was good.

But, you know, and Connery, I mean, Connery was after my time, and I've really never gone back and searched out the Sean Connery. Thomas and I just did a, did a, a review of Highlander. But, you know, Sean Connery's in that for, what, 10 minutes, 15 minutes. So it's, yeah, but most people don't realize that because his name's on it. And it's like, oh, well, he's only in there for like 15 minutes.

Did you see him and Never Say Never Again? I did not. Oh, so I don't, I, if I've seen any Sean Connery, uh, 007s, it was when I was a kid and I just don't remember them. So the only reason when I saw that, I, as a kid, we had cable. So we had HBO Cinemax and whatnot. and in Showtime in the movie channel. They only had four channels back then.

And Sean Connery, because he always said he would never play Bond when he left, but he reprised his role for Never Say Never Again. And they released it the same year as Octopussy. So they used a lot of the same character names, but it wasn't under the Bond umbrella for whatever. They had the screen rights to this script. But I watched it because Octopussy, they were both on cable at the same time. And Kim Basinger was the Bond.

role never say never again right which i mean who didn't i love kim basinger yeah at that time yeah and that was the direct the guy that directed that was he didn't do return the jedi was iran kersher so he did empire strikes back and then he moved over to never say never again yeah oh we're going to talk about star star wars now well no i was just going to say what about pierce brosman bond brosven was good yeah and um some of the stuff he's done later on um roles he's been in been pretty decent. Yeah, the stuff that came out in the 90s,

I really didn't watch an insane amount of TV or movies in the 90s, so I've had to play catch up with that. I didn't see the prequels, the Star Wars prequels, until like years after, because I just wasn't watching movies at that time. I was working really hard, and I had projects all over the place.

but the yeah it wasn't really until Daniel Craig came along that I started watching Bond again so that's probably why they're I like them more if I went back and I watched I mean like I've seen

you know a Bond movie I've seen more than any and it's just because it was like my mom's favorite it was to George Laysen beyond Her Majesty Secret Service Never saw it It's so good Is it?

It's so good Yeah it's depressing and it's really good Yeah, it's really, he was a good bond Definitely Yeah, I've heard Nolan talk about it Because Nolan said that Laysenby and Timothy Dahl Were his two favorites Hmm

Yeah, Lazy's B was something But the, um Yeah, so once Craig Once Craig took over, I was like in a I was in a movie mode Where I was watching a lot, a lot of movies And yeah, I just watched them all

You know, I watched everyone that he's been in Yeah, I didn't see the last one. Was it nothing to die for? Whatever the last one was that he did. The last one he did? I can't remember. Yeah, we're right off stuff in my head. Skyfall, I thought it's skyfall was one of my favorites.

I loved octopus, but I was a little kid, and the fact that you're on a boat with a bunch of hot women. I mean, come on. View to a kill was a little bit of a stretch because he's like making out with Tanya, whatever, she died. But my favorite Bond theme song of all time, just because I loved Duran Duran. It was awesome.

Yeah, it was a great song. Actually, the back-to-back, because the Living Daylights was a good theme song, too. Yeah, it was like, who thought to resurrect Duran Duran for that? So good choice. At that point, Duran Duran was like really not. And then, you know, they, that like sprung board their career and everything, they restarted their career in the 90s.

I remember CNN at a record signing once, like in the mid-90s. That's funny. Now, let's go to Star Wars. So you've seen all the Star Wars in, all the movies? Have you seen The Last Jedi? And this is going on Twitter today. Long ago it was going back and forth with a friend of mine about the Last Jedi. Because Tom is adamant that it's a good movie.

What are your thoughts on that, Pete? Right. I only saw it once. and there were some things that really bothered me about it. Some things just didn't seem, you know, it's like, well, they, okay, they're on the surface of a starship fighting. Are they in the atmosphere? Are they out of atmosphere? No one's where, what's going on here?

That kind of stuff bothers me. I'm just one of those people that's like, I see that. And I'm like, this is going to, I'm going to be thinking about this. they weren't bad it's just the I guess the making like Luke into like some emo guy who's like like an old emo guy who's like you know he was in an emo band once and they were they were kind of popular locally but now he's still the same depressed emo guy but he's like moved and he's like living you know on a on his own island or something like that I don't know. I just the the it almost seemed like Luke's whole character in the in the later episode in the later episode in the later episode in seven eight and nine in eight and nine really are just like a meme. They're they're perfect for memes. They don't really I don't even know if they needed to be there. It was more like it made more sense like at the was at the last episode of the mandolori.

for season one to bring Luke back as young Luke that made more sense than it did for for the last for last Jedi I mean I don't know there were some things I liked about it I mean frigging Carrie Fisher flying through space and I mean there are some things when I'm watching a show watching a movie that when it happens

it's just going to bother me. I mean, I'm just going to be there like, what are you doing? You didn't need, it didn't need to go here. It could have been, I don't know. I don't know. Now I'm thinking back along the storyline and everything. And I'm remembering, you know, a lot of it,

because I haven't watched it. I haven't watched these since they came out. But they're not as memorable to me as like the originals. And really, the originals, four, five, and six, the only reason they're memorable to me is because I was, a kid and I was really into them. You know?

Here's a good, here's a good Star Wars trivia. The first movie? And it's not really Star Wars trivia. France didn't retire the guillotine until after the first Star Wars movie. They actually beheaded somebody with the guillotine

after the first Star Wars movie came out. That's how long they, that France kept the Star Wars movie and that's how early this first Star Wars movie was. With the original, episode four? Yeah, yeah. 1977. Wow.

I remember reading that bit of trivia a couple, like 20 years ago. That's the kind of shit that I remember. You give me a piece of trivia like that. I'm going to hold on to it. I'll be talking about it on my deathbed. But you want to tell, you know, if someone wants to bring up, oh, remember this scene in a movie where I'm just like, I'm like, oh, no, it was the most important scene in the movie.

I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I can tell you, like, every scene in Goodfellas or the Godfather or the Godfather Part 2 and, you know, a bunch of other movies, a movie like, you know, one of my favorite movies is HBO, a movie called Citizen X. I just reviewed that for Last Things Film Festival. Those movies, I can tell you, like, every scene and, like, do dialogue from. But if it's really not a movie where I'm not, like, eager to watch it again after it ends,

I'm not really going to remember a lot of it. That 7, 8, and 9 just didn't do that for me. Yeah, I don't even, the last one I saw begrudgingly, I was up in Seattle, Christmas time, whenever, 19, right before COVID, and my sister wanted to go see it. And I saw it, and it's one of those movies.

I couldn't tell you anything about it. I don't remember anything. But, you know, mob movies, Goodfellas, Godfather, one too. growing up in New York, if there was a movie set in New York, usually it was something that I could really grab on to. There's a mob movie with Mickey Roark and Eric Roberts called the Pope of Greenwich Village.

I never saw it. It's one of the greatest. I mean, I can still watch that movie. And it's just about the two losers who decide they're going to pull off a, you know, they're going to get some old guy to help them rob a safe. And, you know, it turns out they're robin the safe of the mob boss, the local mob boss. And then it's just what happens in their life and how they're trying to handle everything from there on out

and deal with the fact that they know that the mob boss is going to figure out who did it and everything. And it's just a, it's one of those movies at very low budget, but good dialogue, good characters. I mean, Mickey Rourke is a, Mickey Rourke and Eric Roberts are great actors. Um, Bert Young plays the mob boss from, you know, from Rocky. He plays, um, um, what's his name in Rocky? Polly. Polly. Polly.

Yeah. Um, and it's just, just good stuff, good stuff, you know, and good fellows I've seen 20 times. I've seen the Godfather and Godfather 2, probably 15, 20 times a piece. It's just one of those things I can put on. And I know exactly what they're going to say and exactly what's going to happen. But still, it keeps me intrigued and just watching it and have, beautiful it is and how, yeah. You don't mention the third one in there?

I mean, I don't hate it as much as most people do, but you know, you just have to pretty much look at it as a standalone movie. I'll tell you, I've read what the original version of it was going to be, and it was a thousand times worse than what it turned out to be. So thank God that Coppola got, you know, didn't go with what it was originally supposed to be. I read something about the third one. I don't know if this is true or not,

but the original idea was that the corporate America was going to take over the mob, and Deval, if he'd have been in it, would have become the godfather by the end, because he was the attorney, he was the voice of reason. And if that would have, I don't know, I thought that could have been a cool idea because, like, in Vegas, corporate America pushed the mob out, and they are the mob now. Yeah, no. That would have been interesting. Deval wasn't in it.

No, but if they would have had it, because they low-balled him. They low-balled him. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, Andy Garcia, Andy Garcia is not a bad actor. It just wasn't a good role for him. And he's hooking up with his cousin. He's hooking up with his cousin, which... Well, and also, they force Sophia Coppola on you,

who apparently turns out to be a really decent director of movies, but, I mean, she's not a terrible actress in the movie. So you just have this next. nepotism there, where unlike where the first movies were, they really, really went to, like the first Godfather, there are, there's a great, there are great outtakes. I have like the whole full set on, on Blu-ray. And of watching Robert De Niro try, go for the role of Sunny. But he's so greasy where Sunny looks, you know, looks a little more business like and everything. And very, very chewy, but, because James gone. But, I mean, they had, De Niro looked greasy and everything, and he's doing the whole, he does the whole scene about, you know, this isn't where you shoot him from a mile away. You got to get up on there.

You got to get up on him, boom, blow their brains all of your nice Ivy League suit. And he was so greasy and looked too much like a gumba. And I guess that's where they, they held him out and let him play Vito in the second one. Did you ever see, have you seen the sequential order ones? Is that what you have? Yeah, yeah, I've seen the sequential order one. It's, I like, I like watching it the way, watch one into two. Yeah, my dad had bought the VHS, you know, again, in the 90s.

He bought the VHS where they were in sequential, just the first two. And what I thought was cool about it was, you know, you had all the De Niro stuff first, but then they had all those scenes that were not in the, like the original theatrical, you know, where he goes, kills a couple more people when he's in Italy. they blow up the guy that killed Al Pacino's first wife in Italy. He's got the pizzeria. You can find it all on YouTube, but they blow up the pizzeria, you know,

blow up his car right in front of his pizzeria. Yeah, I haven't seen the sequential one since the 90s when it came out. I don't remember all those, all those extra scenes. But the, you know, like they got, I think two is better than one, actually. Just if you try to take it as a standalone movie, to just there's more of, I guess there's more intrigue because you know,

you're learning what the family is and how the family operates in the first one. And then two, you get to see just how powerful they become, you know, Senate hearings and everything like that. And then the Hyman Roth character, the Meyer-Lansky character, is, you know, when you realize that he's, and I swear Coppola did this on purpose,

when you find out he's pulling all the strings and he's really in charge of pretty much everything. And then you go back when you look in mob history, you're like, well, that's pretty accurate for most of mob history. Yeah. Well, and even, there's so many great, like, classic scenes in that movie, in both of them.

But I love when he brings DeVal in and Pacino's talking about taking him out, Hyman Roth out. And he said, you know, I don't care. You know, what is it? I don't feel like I need to wipe out everyone, just my enemies. And then he's like, you know, if you're not going to come along with me, you could take your wife and your mistress and all to Las Vegas.

And he goes, Michael, why do you hurt me? I've always been loyal to you. Yeah. Well, and then in the second one, you find out, you know, you find out how, just how much he thinks of Tom when he makes him done when he goes away. you know and he you know he said um well what vito says in the beginning he says i didn't think you were i didn't think you were a bad conciliary i just thought that sunny was a bad dawn you know so tom was you know tom wasn't when he says you're not a wartime conciliary

i think that was to hurt him because i think tom tom was what you saw in the second one that tom knew what, knew what to do when the time came. So, yeah, I think that was more of an insult than anything else. Well, and how about when he's sitting there with him after the attempted assassination and he said, Fredo, he's got a big heart, but he's weak and he's stupid. He can't be candid with anybody. And he said it about his own brother. Yeah, well, I mean, you have to be able to balance business and family if family is your

business. You know, so the, I mean, I guess the, I guess the. You know, the one thing that really soured a lot of people to part two was, you know, at the ending when he, when Fredo has to go. You know, and Fredo, and it wasn't, you know, people, a lot of people ask, well, why did he do that? It was less about justice and more about, I need my enemies to see that I would do that. And then he hugs him at his mother's funeral because remember it was, you know, I don't want anything to happen to him when my mother's still alive.

And he looks right up at, uh, uh, uh, uh, at Al, O'Rocco, and it's like, this means nothing. Yeah. Yeah, it's, uh, it's rough. I mean, that's, that's, a great thing about those movies is you can, you're really getting caught up into like the intrigue of what becomes a political family. You know, a family with more power than a lot of, you know, when, when, when, when, when, when, when Vito was alive, they probably had as much power as, because it's, because it's before the war, it's pre-war consensus, they had a lot of power.

And then after the war, basically the government becomes much more powerful and takes on much more, you know, basically starts to crack down on anyone who could absolutely control their power or go into business with them. And that's what, you know, Senator, what was it, Senator Leary? Is that the one, the one from part two? Yeah, where Pacino says to him, he says, you can have my answer now, if you like, even the fee, which I appreciate if you put up personally, and how they set them up at the brothel, which was. Yeah. Insane.

Yeah, I mean, another thing where you're just like, did they really do that? Yeah. So I guess that's one of the great things I love about those movies is just that there's so much power. You can really see how power works and how power is top down, where there's one or two people, one person is making the decision, maybe two, and they have their closest people to them, and that's just the way power works. and people don't want to apply that to real life where that's pretty much the way. I mean, you know, it's like the elite theorists say, 10 people can organize much better than 350 million people can.

350 million people can organize. 10 people can. And if those 10 people know how to organize, they can control 350 million people. Also, you know, with that movie as well, how they couldn't let left any stone unturned. And they had to, and Robert DeVal goes to the prison, or not the prison, the military base,

to talk Frank Pantangeline into killing himself. Which you know that was supposed to be played by Clemenza, right? Did you know that whole story behind that? Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so, because it makes sense. But that actor, whatever his name was, Clemenza from the first one, he was the high, I believe he was the highest paid,

maybe even more than Marlon Brando in the first one. And they wanted to bring him back for the second. second one, but his girlfriend or his wife said he has to be in control of all his dialogue. Well, the movie did, the first one did so well that they didn't need to pay him. So they just scratched it and brought in that other guy. But Deval going there to talk him into suicide, the way Adolf Hitler did, I mean, that was, that was powerful stuff. Well, and it's very interesting, too, because they even mentioned the Roman legions,

how that if they made an attempt on the if they made an attempt on the on Caesar or whoever was in charge they had to take their own life and that's also you know not for a gigantic tangent but people out why did Adolf Hitler take his own life because that's what

that's what Prussian leaders did when they lost when they lost they took their own lives he just fought he was following the Prussian tradition you know everybody's like oh that's it no that's that's what they did he was Prussian. That Prussia didn't end until 1945. And then the very end of that

film, you know, they do the flashback, which they had shot that, I think, in 10, it was a cut scene from the first got from the first one. But I love it because you see that he's sitting at the table by himself and then he's sitting in that park by himself. He couldn't keep his family together the way Marlon

Brando could keep it together, but he couldn't. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. And They actually in part three, they do that too. It ends with him completely alone and his family completely apart. And then he fall, I think he's in a wheelchair. He's in like a wheelchair and he falls out of the wheelchair and, you know, that he's died.

I want to talk about Goodfellas, but one thing I always wondered about Godfather, because Talia Shire, I mean, if you think about her, who's Francis Ford Coppola's sister, I mean, some of the greatest, two of the, my all-time favorite movie she was in, I mean, most of the Rocky movies and Godfather. I wonder if Stallone cast her knowing that maybe he could get the financing if he had Francis Ford Coppola's sister in the first film. Because he had a hard time selling it. Well, yeah.

From what I understand, even though she was cast in it, he never got financing. He had to do it all himself. And that's why he became so rich is because he did it all himself. It's like Mel Gibson. I mean, Mel Gibson became a billionaire because he put out passionate. himself. Talk about fuck you money.

You put out passion. I mean, that thing, I knew people who were going to, I've, I've never seen the movie. Let me tell you how it ends? I'm pretty sure I know.

And it's not because, and it's not because, I mean, obviously I'm a question, but the, I don't, I don't want to see that. I've read,

I can read it. I don't want to see it. You know how this movie ends without having to see it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't need to see the thrashing. But the, yeah, I mean, he made, he made Rocky with his own money. He was offered $200,000 for the script.

He said, he said at one time he was so broke, and he was offered like $100,000 for the script, and he's like, this will solve all of my problems, but no, no, I believe way too much in this and everything. So he is smart, but yeah, it was, but Talia Shire does a really good job. And as an actress, she plays one role. Because, I mean, both of those roles were very similar. Once she got, you know, once she broke out of her shells, she was just basically, what's her name? What's her, what's her name is Corleone?

Oh, Connie. Connie, yeah. Yeah, then once she broke out of the shell, she was just basically Connie. so but um she she was also in a i think she financed it or produced it was a movie called rad it was a bmx movie and she played the mother i think that's the only other thing i ever saw her in outside of rocky or godfather oh that's funny yeah it was like an 80s bmx yeah stupid movie but um yeah i uh Stallone was one of those people man like he's one of my favorite actors and like rocky's one of my all time you know tom and i were talking about that

Nighthawks and Cobra and Cliffhanger. Nighthawks is amazing. Nighthawks also has Rodker Howard. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. I feel like I heard Stallone say in an interview.

He wishes he would have done a sequel to Nighthawks. Because him and Billy D. Williams were, they had such good flow. Yeah. Yeah, there was a chemistry there that was actually pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, Stallone did some other good. some other stuff.

I mean, the Rocky movies were good. The Rambo movies were what they were. But there were other things. Lockup was pretty decent. I like that movie. Was it Copeland? That was good.

Yeah, it wasn't a horrible movie. It wasn't as bad as like the critics made it out to me. It was one of the movies. I'm like, all right, the critics are pan in it. It's probably good. I'm like, this isn't horrible. What did you like better,

Stallone or Schwarzenegger growing up? Probably Stallone, just because he was more of like a New Yorker, more of like an East Coast guy and everything, and Schwarzenegger just mumble, you know, mumble mouth and everything.

Commando was just great. I mean, it's just one of those, I mean, it's maybe one of the most classic action movies of all time. It's so ridiculous. I mean, it was the first movie that, you know, growing up in New York, I wasn't around guns a lot.

but it was one of the first movies where I was like, how is that rifle just like firing for like a minute straight? Don't they have to do magazine changes or anything? It was like, that's when I realized that that's when I couldn't watch a movie anymore unless without watching when the guns went into God mode, which meant like, you know, they had all of a sudden they had a thousand rounds to shoot. It's like, how do this work? I love command.

I mean, I love Conan the Barbarian, though. But I mean, you know, if dudes can play all they want. If they've ever watched kindergarten cop, they've laughed their ass off. That's a funny movie. That's a great movie. Twins was good, too. He's really funny in it. Which one?

Twins? Yeah, so that's ridiculous. I mean, Schwarzenegger did, true lies. loved it True Lise is a great movie Loved it How about Predator? I mean

And a Harrier Jump Jet I mean What movie did better Showcase the Harrier Jump Jet Better Predder? Oh yeah I mean obviously

You know The I mean he was the best in it Some of the side characters Were really cringe I'm sorry They were cringy as hell Yeah

I love how they were They went in to take out the The whatever the unit And Jesse Ventura's got the Minigon All these muscle heads right? They're all geared up and going in they just kill everybody

it's so ridiculous but you know what though the effects still hold up the predator effects still hold up okay oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I actually like the predators the one that came out like 10 years ago that one was pretty good when they all got

when they all got dropped on on another planet they realized that one that one had like what's his name in it? I can't remember his name. But yeah, that was it. That one wasn't bad.

AVP. Alien versus Predder. That was good. Great movie. That's one of my favorite. I've seen that movie like five ten times. I mean, it's, there's so much, there's so much in that one, too, you know, so. And the second one wasn't that bad.

It was okay. Yeah. I just, I thought the Predator would, I thought he'd, I thought he'd fairer better against the aliens, but the aliens really did kick the shit out of them in the first one. If you could, if like, you know, you can spit acid or like, you know, your blood is acid, you're going to, predator is going to have a problem. All right. So, so Scorsese, man, what is your, uh, Goodfell's is my favorite Scorsese movie.

Now, in fairness, I've never seen Raging Bowl. I've seen, I've seen Raging Bowl multiple times. And I hear it's okay. it's a great movie. I mean, he's a piece of shit. He was a piece of shit. You know, and that's the hardest part of the whole thing is just dealing, because he's just such a terrible person.

But it's shot really well, a good dialogue, and black and white, you know, black and white helped a lot, I think. So what's your favorite Scorsese? I mean, Goodfellows is one of them is, you know, dependent on the day, either Godfather, I'll tell you, Godfather, Goodfellows is my favorite movie. I remember back in the day when it was on like HBO and it would come on at like 11 o'clock at night

and I had to be to work. I knew I had to wake up at like 5 o'clock in the mornings to go to work and I would hear that first line ever since I was a good all I wouldn't be again. I was like, all right, shit, I'm going to be here until 233 o'clock in the morning. Damn it. All right, well, I mean, everything about that movie, it did a really good it did a good job of showing

from what I understand I mean I read the book too I read the book Wise guy by by what was his name Nicholas Pilegy Pellejee from what I understand it did a really good job of showing just how those guys would go out and make money

and then how they'd have to kick back and that they really did try their best to not get innocent people hurt or involved it was just the people that they need to in order to, you know, in order to get business done. But the soundtrack, the casting was fantastic, too. I mean, I don't know.

I mean, has Ray Liotta ever done another role that he was that good in? Not like, no, not to that level. I liked him in Blow, but he was only supporting in that. Yeah. There's so many, I mean, you look at Goodfellas, man. There's so many. The whole movie is just one big classic moment. Like, I like, because, you know.

And casino had some good moments in it, but the cohesiveness of Goodfellas was just... Well, Casino also was, there were so many parts in that where they were just so dehumanizing that were really depressing. But, yeah, I mean, Goodfellas, you had, first of all, the cast, second of all, they cast real mobsters in it. And actually, Godfather, there was actually real mob. There were actually real mobsters in that, too. you actually see pictures of the cast going and visiting certain guys and took pictures with them and everything just so they could get the idea of how to act. But, yeah, I mean, when you look at Goodfellows, the casting, the music, the story,

and realizing that a lot of that story is true. Now, in the book, they concentrate a whole lot more on something that is just, told in passing, talk about the point shaving scandal at Boston College, the book is mostly, is majority about that. And they only, they talk about it, Morty, Morty mentions it right before they put the ice pick in the back of his, in the back of his head. But the, for a lot of the intrigues, like the Liftonza Heist and everything, I mean, those, those things happened. Those things were real. And they pulled those off without like firing a shot. So, you know, there's a lot in there. There's also a lot of New York history, a lot of neighborhood history.

You see how a lot of neighborhoods work, but you really do see how the mob, the mob work. There's like the Pauly character, Serbino. He, his, in the book, he talks about, how when credit cards came out, they were the first ones to figure out how to counterfeit credit cards. And they would go out, they would call them, I forget what they'd call them.

They'd call them like chicklets or something like that. They would go out and have run up $300 bills in restaurants in the 60s, in the late 60s, you know, where it's like, you know, how do you run up a $300 bill in the late 60s in a restaurant? And I remember him saying, him being quoted in the book is saying the meal always tasted the best

when we didn't pay for it. So, yeah, I really, after I saw the movie, I had to go get the book and read the book. I think I read the book like in one day or something like that. And it was just, you know, the thing about the Godfather is when you look at that, it's so insular, it's so nepotistic,

that you know that you can never be a part of that world. but Goodfellas let you know that you didn't have to be Italian to be in the mob. You just had to be, you know, so it could be like anyone. It actually opened the door where people could be like, you know, I could actually be associated with these guys, even though I'd never be a made guy. I like when Ray Leota's young character comes home and his father busts him and he's, he wasn't going to school and he's beating him.

And the best was, you know, him narrating the whole movie. And he goes, the way I look at it, everybody takes a beating once in a while. I mean, so true. So true. How are you going to get to get through life and be successful without taking a beat every once in a while? It just happens. Where does the Irishman stand up for you on all that stuff?

I refuse to watch it. Oh, you haven't seen it? I don't want to be disappointed. Yeah, I don't want to be disappointed. I've heard too many people I know who I respect it. We agree on the Godfather and like, I'm Goodfellas. And they're like, don't watch. it. I'm like, okay.

Yeah, if I can share me what I think. First of all, I only watch it once in the theater. I have a hard time getting through things that long if I don't see it in the theater because I just fall asleep or I'm looking at my phone. And when you're in a dark movie theater, you're not doing that stuff. I'll tell you, man, I think it's worth the watch. And I liked it better than Casino. I didn't like it as good as Goodfellas.

But I didn't have expectations of that because Goodfellas is like Dark Night. It's a perfect movie. It just comes along every so often. but what I thought was good about it was Pesci's character for the first time he was the mob boss but he wasn't violent he was you know he did all of his actions very calmly you didn't see him yell you didn't see and and when Pachino the first time you hear his voice I remember saying to my friend I go man we're never going to see all these guys on

screen again like never going to happen so to me it's it's I think it's worthwhile you should watch it in my opinion And then they spent a lot of time in the post, you know, after the fallout from Hoffa's death. And there was a good 45 minutes of it. And most I'd ever seen in a Scorsese film because it doesn't end well for these guys. It never does. And life is lonely. And life is your parents.

Your kids don't want anything to do with you. And, I mean, it just, you know, that's, that's, unfortunately, it's not a sexy world. Sexy life. Yeah. No, I mean, Hoffa, that's another movie I haven't watched. My dad's side of the family is a Teamsters family.

And, yeah, it's, I mean, I know a lot. I know a lot. They used to a lot. A lot of stuff, let's put it that way. I'm not going to use a judgment word just to get in, so no one gets mad at me. But yeah, I've never seen Hoffa either. What did you think of the Departed?

I liked it. One thing about Scorsese movies, they go on sometimes longer than they need to, and that's what the departed was. And I also feel like they were paying homage to Scorsese, because he needed a best director. He deserved it for just Goodfell's alone. And I forgot what, I think the English patients were won at that year. So they were paying respect to him by giving that.

But I liked it. I mean, I thought it was good. I like Jack Nicholson. I like DeCaprio. Yeah, I mean, the Martin Sheen character was, I mean, the way he lost, the way he lose, you know, dies is just insane. The, what about the, I mean, the character I love the most whenever he was on the screen was Mark Wahlberg.

He was great. Yeah, he's getting into fights with Matt Damon. Yeah, just, I mean, absolutely. insane fights. And then of course, did you notice whenever anyone got shot in that movie was a headshot? I guess I never realized it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everything was a headshot. And they were brutal headshots. Even the last one, the one that Walberg's character delivers. I mean, that is just

brutal. Yeah, that movie wasn't bad, but it was, it was overly long. And there was some stuff. They probably could have cut 20 minutes, 25 minutes out of that movie. But one movie I wrote here, and I'm going to have to go in a couple of minutes. And this is, you know, I just, when you were talking about Pacino and De Niro, one of my all-time favorite movies, another movie I've seen 20 times as heat. Love it. I mean, it's a heist movie. I remember, you know, if people make fun of,

the comedian, you know the comedian Dane Cook? You remember him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had this joke about how, like, the reason people love height, the reason people like heat is because every dude dreams of being a part of a heist. And it's true, right?

I mean, you've thought about it, right? Yeah, I was, well, I was more into, you know, Boys in the Hood, man. Everybody wanted to be Ice Cube from Boys in the Hood, if you remember that. But it's like, I always thought, well, then Dane Cook finishes, Choke goes, every dude thinks about being a part of a heist and owning a monkey, which makes no sense, but it's, I've actually thought about owning a monkey at times too, so I understood it.

But heat is just phenomenal. The dialogue at the diner. I mean, some of the best dialogue. I mean, the dialogue isn't even that. great. It's just how Michael Mann, how his music and how his scores just really intensify a moment. And I thought that was another great moment is that the moment at the ending where he sees her and he realizes he has to leave. And he's like, you know, and then he remembers to John Void's character who's like, you know, always be, always be ready to go in a moment's notice and leave

anyone behind? There's just, I can talk about heat forever. I mean, there's so much to that movie. The Wayne Grove, I mean, Thomas and I have talked about this so many times, how the Wayne Grove character, how you understand the night of long knives because you don't leave people around who are, you know, who will damage things, you know, they'll come back to bite you in the ass. I like the very, very end

when De Niro's shot and at that point he's done and he said, I told you I'm never going back and Pacino holds his hand and you see the camaraderie so he doesn't have to die alone and then the music with

it's Moby that they play at the very end of that it's such a great I mean put Moby at the very end it was like that was awesome there was a I mean there's an alternate ending where he gets away

but it just doesn't work yeah there's an alternate ending where he gets away but it just doesn't work. I got to look that up on YouTube. I know you're probably going to go. As we're going to 25, man, what are you thinking?

I'm thinking everything is going to be a fight. But I think it's really interesting that so much of like politics in the world is done on Twitter now, where somebody can float something, somebody in power can float something. And people immediately do. pile on it. Then it's like, you know, then Elon gets so beaten down that he's like, okay, let's do a poll. And the people have spoken kind of thing, especially over the last couple days where they're threatened in this, you know, this Pagit invasion of H-1B workers

and everything. I'm just looking forward to that, to seeing how that plays out, how all that plays out. I'm looking forward to seeing how people are going to, because they're not going to get the things that they want, that they thought they could get under Trump, that they're going to immediately turn on him and be like, oh, we should have voted, we should have

told you it would have been better with Kamala because we'd be fighting and be like, yeah, so you don't want Indians in the country, so vote for an Indian. Okay, that's good. I just, I look forward to it, because when it comes down to, it. People need to remember this. It's not January 21st. And we're not going to know whether

any of this stuff is done what's going to be done until January 21st. Another thing that I find very interesting is that everybody, everybody is talking like Trump's already president. Everybody assumes he's already president. I actually saw one like Democrat go, well, well, someone was saying something. Someone's like, well, why doesn't Trump do something about that. I'm like, he's not fucking president, dummy. Like, everyone assumes he's already president. Why? Because Joe Biden is probably dead somewhere. And Kamala Harris is hiding.

I mean, it's weird times. And I think anybody who thinks right now that they know what's going to happen is just they're going to they're going to be as wrong as I will be about predictions I've made. I think we're all going to be wrong. One thing I'll add is, you know, whatever is going to happen, it provides a lot of opportunities

for what I'm doing, from what you're doing. I wish none of it was happening. And we live in just a normal world where, you know, all this fuckery wasn't occurring, but it is what it is. And for this kind of stuff, there's just going to be a lot of conversations to be had. There's going to be a lot of analysis, a lot of fun with guessing where things may or may not go. And, you know, I'm just, you said it.

I think last time we spoke, like you're just gearing up for what's going to be thrown at us. And, you know, I'm glad that you come on here regularly and, you know, we can talk about things. And I appreciate you doing this today. Where can people find you? Well, for right now, I don't have a hockey podcast, which is what I would do if the world was a, was the place that I'd want it to be. Pete Cunionette show, all podcatchers, Pete Substack.com, and the Old Glory Club, we stream every Thursday night at 8 o'clock Eastern on our YouTube channel and Michael has been a guest recently. Yeah, and I, thank you for letting me come on. And, you know, I'll put all the, put all the

descriptions for people so they can click on all Pete's work. And happy New Year. I look forward to more conversations ahead. Happy New Year, brother. Take care. Mike drop.