The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on Coffee and a Mike w/ Mike Farris - The New Year So Far

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:39 Thanks for coming back. Mike, what's happening, man? You know, we were talking offline, and you were saying, you know, sometimes things get heavy, and both of us were sharing our stories of doing this independently, which you've been doing longer than I have. And I don't know about you, but people will say, you know, when I, the other day, they're like, is that all you do for a living? And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 get that they can't grasp that. Like, they think that you just sit around all day and do nothing and like, but I work all the time. You work all the time. And this stuff gets, it gets very, very heavy. And I don't know, I, people, I don't think they understand the stuff that we're talking about, the stuff we're reading, watching, listening, it takes a toll on you. I mean, I probably record 20, 25 hours a week.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I do all my own editing. That's another 20 hours, 25 hours. Then all the reading I have to do for it. You know, one of the things that most people don't take into consideration is, and I think a lot of people are, I'm a different person than other people. When I watch horrific stuff that's happening around the world, like the stuff. like the stuff that happened in Gaza, especially when it was at its height, I would force myself to watch those videos.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And that's not something that, you know, I think most people should be watching. And, you know, my wife knows how I get after I watch those videos where I have to be left alone and I have to, you know, I have to just deal with it. And, you know, I watch that stuff so that I watch some of the worst stuff in the world and read about some of the worst things that have ever happened because I have to be able to convey and, you know, convey that message that this is the world we live in and warn people about it. And I want to know as much about it as possible. And I'm not one of these.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I've never been, I was never in the military, so I've never been to war. I have seen somebody die in front of me from an accident, getting hit by a bus. I was very young when that happened. But, you know, for the most part, I'm not dealing in death. And when you start doing what we do, you start dealing in death. and to ignore it is kind of impossible. If you want to be honest with people and you want to be, I don't consider myself a journalist or a newscaster or anything,
Starting point is 00:04:38 I consider myself just more of a, I guess at this point, a storyteller. And you have to be able to tell stories that are absolutely insane and horrible. So yeah, you know, we need to, if you do what we do, what we do, you need to shut it off every once in a while. And I'll shut it off for days on end. That's why you normally when my substack people will get a message that I'm not going to be putting anything like doing my substack messages. Because outside of putting episodes on substack, that people can, you know, hear my stuff, you know, without ads and without even introductions and everything. It's just the conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I record messages. And every once in a while, I just have to, if you, if you get a message through substack saying, hey, I'm not going to be recording anything. I need to shut it down for a few days. And it's also really hard for me to shut it down because it's like, you know, I'm not going to do anything. You know, I don't want to sit there and try and drink it away because, you know, that, that doesn't help it at all. So, you know, you try to just occupy yourself with, like, to me, stuff around the house or, you know, try to get together with friends. Yeah, I mean, this is, I'm lucky enough that this will be, July will be my third year of doing this full time.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And I do that at the pleasure of the people who send me money to do it every month. and I consider myself to be working for them. But even so, you still need to take a vacation, even though this is what I do. This is what I've come to believe that I was created to do. But you still have to be able to shut it down every once in a while or else it will consume you. And usually when you see me,
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Starting point is 00:07:47 Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. Trading is Cooper Financial Services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Or if I'm screaming on my substack morning message, yeah, I need to take a break because it's not normally what I do. And I can scream for hyperbole's sake, but sometimes I'm being really serious and everything. And then it's like, okay, time to take a break for a few days and just disconnect from this and maybe pick up a book that doesn't have stuff in it that's so horrifying that, you know, you're, you want to, you feel like you have to talk about it. So yeah, I mean, that's, that's basically
Starting point is 00:08:25 what it is is, you know, you have to, you have to shut it off every once in a while. You know, I listen to, I, I don't listen to every one of your episodes, but I listen to a lot of them. And, I mean, I can, you know, you talk about a lot of subjects, too, that you probably, um, can bother you and you want to shut down and, uh, run away from. him for at least a little while. Yeah, you know, Gonzalez-Lera's name has been circulating around again for the last couple of days, and I don't even know if I told you this. The last podcast he did was on my show back in April of 23.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And, you know, I didn't know at the time. We recorded on a Saturday, and I talked to him for like an hour and 45 minutes. And then that Monday morning, I published it, and I was like, that's weird, he's not retweeting it. and I saw later in the afternoon that, I don't know, Susan Free Presser, Zerohead, or something, that he had been arrested. And I saw the video of, you know, the Ukrainian, whatever the hell they are with their long rifles and him being cuffed. And that was it. I know he got out for a brief stint.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But, yeah, the last interview he did was on my show. And I've referenced that a lot where, you know, they killed, you know, he died. I mean, we left him, the United States, we left him in there. and, you know, the Ukrainian government killed him. And, I mean, talking about right now, I'm just, I can't believe it. And if you don't think that has an effect on you, it's like, people don't understand, like, what's going on in the world and how, you know, just some of the horrible things that come along with it. Yeah, it's hard for me to see people promoting, like, defending and saying that Ukraine are the victims.
Starting point is 00:10:09 when I know what a murderous regime that is. You know, we have a murderous regime. You know, we've had a murderous regime here for 80 years. But, you know, we haven't. Oh, you know, if we had a, well, think about it this way. So we have all these enclaves of Mexicans, you know, California, Texas, all throughout the country, really. if we just if we had like a state sponsored militia that just started bombing and killing thousands of them on American soil I mean would we be the good would we be the good guys when it would be just easy is easy enough to just go in there if you want to get rid of them and um put them on a bus or a train and get right you know and get them out of the country
Starting point is 00:11:06 Would we be the good guys if we could, you know, we sponsored just a mass slaughter of 14, you know, anywhere between, I've heard numbers 14 to 30,000, you know, ethnic Russians in your, you know, in Ukraine, which arguably isn't even a real country. So, you know, the whole Ukraine thing, the whole NAFO op online, I really, I've really come to believe that there are people that just need to be made examples of. Because Ukraine is bad enough. I mean, their sons are being kidnapped. Ukrainian sons are being kidnapped off the streets and sent to the front to die while their parents
Starting point is 00:11:59 try to go to church and are beaten up for going to the wrong church. And they're told if they want to go to church, they have to go to the church. Newland founded in 2014, which is just a state-sponsored church of the American, you know, the Judeo-American Empire's regime. And, yeah, so I remember when Gonzalo, when it came out that he died, that was, you know, there are Americans who are still defending that, still defending U.S. Crane, still saying, calling them a democracy, still saying Zelensky's a hero. Now, if you're ignorant and you're doing that, it's one thing.
Starting point is 00:12:48 If you know the truth, if I tell you the truth and everything that just came out of my mouth is truth and you still support them, you know, we have to remember that the founders of this country talked about enemies foreign and domestic. And we have a lot that are domestic. Yeah, I should say, I was, I, I should send you that conversation, man, because when you listen to it now and you hear him, it's just so disturbing knowing that two days later he was gone, arrested, I mean, not dead, but, and just some of the things he said and just, you know, not leaving Ukraine and, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:13:28 even just talking about it right now, it's just like kind of, it's bringing it all back and you're just like, fuck, like. Well, I mean, you know, and not to do the whole boomer thing of imagine if the rolls are reversed, but if it had been Russia, you know, we have people they get people, we have American citizens who go into Russia and break their laws and they get thrown in jail. And we're, and they're horrified. And people, and Americans are outraged. An American goes over to Ukraine to try to expose the truth of what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And the regime there, you know, kidnaps them and doesn't even throw them. in jail just kills them. Not a peep. Not a peep. Yeah. I mean, I really, at this point, I'm, if Zelensky were to go out, I would like to see Zelensky would go out the way Gaddafi did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That would be, it would make everything better, but it would be somewhat satisfying. Isn't he supposed to be going to DC on Friday? that was a rumor circulating around. Is he? I haven't heard that one now. Yeah, Trump was talking about that because I don't know how close they are to getting this thing resolved. You don't know what, you know, it's always been the story. You don't know what to believe, what you're reading right now.
Starting point is 00:14:53 But, I mean, I've seen indicators that, you know, Ukraine is going to sign over the minerals, but yet Trump was still talking about providing them money and equipment for what they need. but then there's talks of possibly a ceasefire, but I don't know how close that is. Well, it's hard to know, and I think if the reason why the signals are distorted is on purpose, I think that's a good thing. You don't want to telegraph to certain people what exactly is happening. The whole minerals thing is hilarious to me because it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:33 those are raw. they're still in earth i mean i've read numbers saying that whatever number is being thrown around consider it to be about 13% because 87% will go towards the labor and machinery and getting that out of the ground so if you hear you know a trillion dollars worth it's really like 130 billion dollars worth so um yeah i don't know what's going on there it may just be one of those really weird Trump negotiating tactics and, you know, I don't know. It's hard to know what to believe. I mean, I saw one account saying that the war was over yesterday that Zelensky had agreed to all of the,
Starting point is 00:16:19 Zelensky and Putin had agreed to all the things. Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to believe. But, yeah, I mean, I just want the thing to be over. It's just so stupid. And, you know, knowing that it was basically started and orchestrated. Because ethnic groups in this country who have historic ties to Ukraine and Russia hate Ukrainians and Russians and want to see them kill each other, well, they got their wish. So, you know, hopefully one day those people will pay, you know, be brought to justice to the Victoria Newlands and the Robert Kagan's and the Alexander Vindman's of the world.
Starting point is 00:17:00 These people, they also need justice. they they you know and i'm not talking about i'm talking about on trial and sent to getmo you know that i'm i'll be it they can surf getmo for the rest of their lives i'll be happy with that well you and i haven't spoken since the end of last year you know what are your thoughts on what we've seen so far with trump in this new administration well i think it's a lot of what we you know what People like myself, Tom Luongo and Matt Erickson and some others thought was going to happen. At least we were hopeful that it was going to happen, was that there was going to be an attack on the administrative state. Now, ready for huge savings?
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Starting point is 00:19:09 to have to have the will to do things that, I'm not talking about killing people. I'm talking about just basically going full bore and eliminating departments, firing people. And I think they're just going too slow with what they're doing. If I had any kind of, any kind of critique at all, they need to impeach these judges, fire them, do whatever they do. You can go ahead and read what Bucheli did in El Salvador when it came to the judges. Yeah, he wasn't going to put up with that. And he just got rid of them.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I mean, he pulled them off the bench and sent them packing. That's what needs to be done here. And maybe that is, maybe this is, maybe you just can't do all this at once. Maybe it's really hard to do a lot of the things that you, you want to do it once. And you're getting all your ducks in a row. This is what the 19-year-old autists with laptops and AI are doing. They're coming through and finding, you know, finding the skeletons, finding the numbers.
Starting point is 00:20:27 But, you know, I mean, if Trump would have pardoned the J6 prisoners and you know, went after USAID. That would be more than most people would have thought that he would have ever accomplished or ever would have done. So at this point, I think anything that happens after this is a win as far as scaling back government. I was listening to the press conference he did at his cabinet meeting today. and Musk said that the goal was to cut $4 billion a day from the deficit
Starting point is 00:21:12 to make it $1 trillion by the midterms. I mean, if he's able to do that, that's a lot. But you also have to start looking at the budget. You also have to start looking at generating income, which I think that's what the sovereign wealth fund is about. A lot of gold seems to be pouring into the United States, the city of London seems to be Tom Luongo, you know, according to him, who he's the city of London expert, they're floundering right now. And they would be our chief
Starting point is 00:21:46 enemy when it comes to finance and a lot of other things. They're also what keeps Israel afloat more so than us, actually. And so, you know, I think good things are happening. They're just not happening fast enough for most people. But, you know, when I, you know, I'm not an expert on, like, an economic and administrative state coup d'etat, on how you would, I've read the book Kudatah by Lutwak, letter, read it on my show. I know what a kudata looks like from a certain aspect, but this is something that we haven't seen before because, you know, this isn't, we're not talking about, you know, Sierra Leone. We're talking about, you know, the United States, the biggest bureaucracy of all time. So I'm hopeful in a lot of the rhetoric I've heard and a lot
Starting point is 00:22:40 of the stuff that I've seen happen. I think something that a lot of people aren't taking to consideration because they don't pay attention to local and state politics is here in Alabama, I'm seeing, you know, the shit lib rags. crying because, you know, state and local positions are being eliminated. Well, why is that? Well, apparently they're being funded federally. Well, they're going away. And so, you know, when people are like, not enough is happening for me, then, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:20 take into consideration there's a lot you're probably not seeing. It's like with the deportations. I know Eric, Eric Prince is offered to have a deport. I think he said 15 million by the midterms for a $25 billion, you know, for a payment of $25 billion. But I also think that they're from things that I've heard from multiple regions of the country, the amount of self-deportations that's happening is pretty remarkable too.
Starting point is 00:23:53 People are just picking up and leaving. So, yeah. I don't know. I think that I'm happy and I didn't think I thought there was a chance we could see a lot of what was happening happen and being called for and being moved upon. But I'm happy to see a lot of it's happening. A lot of it is happening. But I mean, I think I know that there's people out there too that are either not going to be happy with anything but the purpose. perfect and are always going to see an ulterior motive and, you know, a surveillance state
Starting point is 00:24:33 is coming and a panopticon is coming. They keep Whitney, you know, keep people donating money to Whitney Webb. I, uh, yeah, I mean, I never thought, I mean, well, you and I spoke about it. I didn't think he would win. And, um, I was, I didn't. I mean, you know, I know. We've talked about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. And I've apologized to every listener that emailed me asking for, you know, I mean, I say it again. I was wrong. I was wrong. Don't listen to me. Listen to the guests I have on. Don't listen to me.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Those of us, those of us who were saying he was going to win, and not only that he was going to win that we would know. You called it early. You called it real early. You would know that night before he went to sleep. And I think we knew at 3 o'clock in the morning. And I was still awake because we were live streaming.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And those of us who said that he was going to go after USA. I, you know, go after a lot of these deep state institutions. In the back of our mind, we're going, this ain't going to happen. You know, but we, you weigh it. So it's like, okay, I thought 60% it was going to happen, 40%. It's not going to happen. But I don't like to be one of those people who's like, I think it's going to happen. But, you know, shit or get off the pot.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You know, take a stand every once in a while and make a, make a prediction. And, you know, you have the mayor culpals are fine. You can just, you know, hey, I'm sorry. I was wrong on this one. I've been wrong on a lot. I mean, I've, you know, whatever. I'm human.
Starting point is 00:26:11 At least I'm willing to take, take a stand and say this is what I want. This is what I think is going to happen. Or this is what I hope is going to happen. A lot of people don't even want to hear you. A lot of people will, like, malign you for saying that you have hope that something is going to happen. Oh, how can you have hope? That's not hope.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That's cope. Okay. Well, I mean, that's fine. But my life is, my life is fine. And, you know, a lot of the predictions we started making back in the beginning of last year, especially around January of 2024, have come true. And I think it's only because we're, a few of us were trying to come at this from a standpoint of complete neutrality.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Now, when you're trying to figure out what's coming, what's coming, you have to be able to put aside your biases, put aside your ideology, if you have personal ideology, if you have a political ideology, if you put it aside, which is what most people can't do, especially like mainstream media, that's why the mainstream media is dying, you put aside your ideology and you just look at the facts. And you're like, okay, what am I seeing? What am I seeing? Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And when I'm looking at something, and I'm looking at the people who are backing Trump and the people who are saying we're going to support Trump, if I throw away all of the conspiracy shit that you can come up with when you're like, holy crap, that person works in tech. That means that AI is going to, he wants to put a chip in our brain or AI. If you could put all that stuff aside and just look at what reality is or what's in front of your eyes, you can see. things that are, you can actually predict reality. The problem is that people are so swamped in ideology, in their own ideology, that they, that they allow that to basically possess them. And then you, it's hard to look at the actual reality that's happening and where you can take pieces of evidence from here and there and there and you put them together and you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:24 Huh, looks like this is what's going to happen. I'm not saying this is the greatest thing in the world that's going to happen. I'm not even going to say it's going to benefit you, but this is what's going to happen. And it's really weird that now when you report on the world or you do a commentary on the world that way, people are like, oh, you want that to happen. I'm like, let's say I wanted that to happen. I'm just saying that's what's happening. And because people have been basically brainwashed into being so ideal. that you have to have an ideology, you know, and this is the work of James Burnham and Sam
Starting point is 00:29:00 Francis is ideology doesn't matter to people in power. Yes, they have an ideology, but they can change it. If they see things, if they see something's not working, they'll just discard it. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design. They move you. Even before you Drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range. For Mentor, Leon and Terramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2,000 euro. Search Coopera and discover our latest offers. Coopera. Design that moves. Finance provided by way of higher purchase agreement from Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited, subject to lending criteria. Terms and conditions apply. Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited trading is Cooper Financial Services.
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Starting point is 00:30:35 Well, we're not going to be happy until we get everything. Okay, then you're a child. You're not going to, you just said you're not going to be happy until you get everything that you want. Well, that's true. You're just calling me names. No, you're acting like a petulant child. And you're also showing a certain ignorance in politics. Nobody ever gets everything they want.
Starting point is 00:30:54 There are negotiations going on right now. Putin is not going to get everything he wants. Donald Trump's not going to get everything he wants. Israel is not going to get. They all operate with the framework that you're not going to get everything you want. But then someone on Twitter, you know, who's too scared to use a real name is going to be telling you, and I'm not telling you you have to dox yourself. I understand that, you know, people want to, want to stay safe.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And believe me, I understand that. But I mean, you're, who are you to say that you only, I'm only going to get, okay, Rape Groyper 14, you're, you demand to get everything you want. Okay, so you're a child. And when I call you a child, you're like, oh, well, you're just, that's just name calling. But you're acting like a child. children are the only people who think they're going to get everything that they want. Or grifters. That's what I figured out a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:32:01 The word grifter only applies to a certain group. It applies to a certain group that is advertising something that will never materialize. Like your perfect political ideology, your perfect situation. And if you have a person who is doing that and they're saying, this is the only way we're going to be able to survive. You have to destroy the Christian church. That's the only way you're going to get Jewish. The only thing that's keeping Jewish power going is to Christian church,
Starting point is 00:32:34 so we have to destroy Christianity. The person who's telling you that is a grifter, because that's never going to happen. The person who's telling you, everything will be perfect as long as we destroy the government. The government is the source of all of our ills. The only way we can have anything good in this world is we have to get rid of the government. We have to convince people that we have to get rid of the government and live in anarchy.
Starting point is 00:33:00 That's a grifter. That's how you notice a grifter. And these are the people that, you know, watching, seeing what Trump's doing. And like I said, I would like to see things go faster. But I'm not on the inside either. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on in his inner circle. I don't know what the plans
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know, I don't know what the plan is So I can trust the plan, bro So, but yeah Well, there's my rant for the, there's my rant for the show, Michael Pete, you're acting like a child You want things to go faster I know, I know, I'm acting like a child I'm saying you have to live in the real world
Starting point is 00:33:39 And be completely realistic And not act like, and not expect to get everything you want And I'm acting like a child, oh my God I'm surprised you let it get that far with, uh, an ex post, if somebody's posting that to you. Usually you just block those people. I don't even really, they don't even really post it to me anymore. I just see it. You just witness it. You know, have you ever, um, come across, maybe you're not because you're, you're a really nice guy, but you come across people, people you've never, like, interacted with before who've blocked you.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Well, the reason they've blocked you is because like, this happens all the time. I'll come across an account and they've blocked me and I'm like, I have no idea who this person is. They're not on my side of Twitter. They've seen me interacting with somebody and they've just decided to block me. I've done that too. I've done that with people too. I see the way they're interacting and I see the conversation they're having and I see the way their words are.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And I'm like, this person has nothing for me. And actually I want to make sure I don't interact with them ever so that it's not exposing it to my people because it might be so cancerous. So I'll just like preemptively block them. But, you know, mostly it's, I see these conversations happening on Twitter where it's like, we have to get everything we want or else we're not going to be happy. And I'm just like, all right, well, you're a child and I don't want anything to do with you block. Yeah, I think the most criticism I'm getting is if my language, if I'm swearing, which I think is funny.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's hilarious to me. That happens every once. while with me too and you know I understand it but you know I'm I grew up in New York and we use the F word as a comma I mean so it just comes out every once in a while and people like well aren't just supposed to be a Christian it's like yeah I'm also human I mean I yeah I read an email that I got and there was you know the word fuck was in it a couple of times and I said it because I was quoting the email and you know somebody was like did you really need to use the lane i'm like you know what i've just i've had it with this this type of i mean
Starting point is 00:35:53 i don't run a disney show here yeah i mean you have former navy seals on you know people you know who i mean these swearing is a commodity to them yeah it's a currency to them it's something that they use um i'm not going to shut people up you know i have uh i have an episode with uh the comedian leonardo johnie coming out And I mean, she's just a foul-mouthed person, woman from the Bronx. Like, I'm a foul-mouth dude from the Bronx, too. And she, like, was, I noticed when we started talking, she was curbing. She went to say fuck, and she stopped.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And I'm like, oh, no, you can say that. I'm not, I have a rule that you come into my house. You follow my rules. I'm not going to ask someone to be something that they're not. I invited them on for a reason, because I, I know what they are. I'm not going to ask somebody to be something different. Yeah, she, I just discovered her through, through you and listening to some of her stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:02 She's funny. Yeah, she's hilarious. You know, and the reason she's hilarious is because she's, she's honest, you know, and that's something that, something that I brought up with her was that it seems like comedy in the last 10 years is been about getting applause and not laughs. Oh, stunning and brave. Oh, my God. That comedian said something so stunning and brave about trans people needing to be protected from evil Nazis that are roaming the countryside and everything like that. It's like, I mean, I want to laugh. You know, I mean, I don't, I don't want to be insulted. I don't want to be preached at for my comedy. If I put a
Starting point is 00:37:46 comedian on, I want to laugh. You know, I mean, there can be some political, in there. But, you know, I appreciate the political, the political comedy that shows the absurdity of politics. You know, not where you're just like, you know, like what Bill Burr has turned into,
Starting point is 00:38:05 that cuck. You know, he's always been sort of a shit lib. But, you know, at least he was funny. At least he could be, at least he could be funny. And you could overlook the, you know, the kind of anti-gun stance, you know, anti-gun stance he had. on some of his jokes, and even the anti-gun jokes had some humor to him, everything.
Starting point is 00:38:25 But now he's just a, I mean, well, consider who his wife is, so whatever. You think Hollywood will ever get back to what it was before all this? I was just talking about some people about Marvel movie. I didn't see the new Captain America because I just heard it was awful. And I read it a review. They said, even Harrison Ford can't save this. Which is amazing to me at 82 years old, this guy still, he must really need the money that he's still doing all this. But, you know, like there's a Superman coming out this summer, and I think I've come to terms with it.
Starting point is 00:39:02 These movies just aren't made for people my age. Maybe that's what it is. It's the way they're shot and put together. So, um, you think that's what it is? Lwango talks about this, the, the Zach Snyder cut of Justice League. So the Justice League that came out in the theater was just crap. Terrible. It was Pablam.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So Zach Snyder went in and did a four-hour-long cut of his own, and it's amazing. It's amazing. You know, Luongo talks about how these movies are shot to be good. Then they get in the hands of editors and everything, and then they can turn them into anything. So Zach Snyder's cut of, you know, like, of Justice League is really good. If you have four hours, you know, I watched it over two days, but it's really good. There's going to be some cringe in there, but not a lot. Like Batman, the Robert Pattinson Batman, there was like two lines in there.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It made me cringe, but for the most part, I thought they were pretty good. But DC is always, I always like DC better than Marvel because DC is just a darker universe, and I have a darker soul. I'll go see Superman. I wasn't blown away in the trailer, but also I have to take an account it's a trailer. Yeah, I mean, you don't know what they're doing in a trailer. I mean, how many times have you seen a trailer,
Starting point is 00:40:33 and then you've gone to see the movie, and there are scenes in the trailer that aren't in the movies. So, yeah, I mean, I just don't watch a lot of movies anymore. It's not that I don't want to. There are some movies that people recommend to me, and I'm like, I've got to watch that. but then I just don't have time. And if I do have the time, it's late at night.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And if I start watching a movie late at night, 15 minutes in, my eyes are going to start closing. So that's one of the problems of getting old. Don't you feel like somebody said this, somebody said this to me and I've been saying it, it's almost like we're living in a DC comic book right now with these characters that Trump's team is formed. Well, I'm not saying that in a negative way,
Starting point is 00:41:15 but these people are really, like, they're like characters out of a comic book. And they're all so good on a microphone. They all have, you know, very witty responses. Not witty, but, you know, they have good mouths on them. Well, I'm not saying that this is a good thing because I think she was actually a detestable person. But a lot of them are right out of an Ayn Rand novel.
Starting point is 00:41:39 You know, like these Titans of Industry that are, you know, all they care about is progress. And, you know, and the bureaucrat is there to stifle them. And, yeah, I mean, I see a lot. I see some of that in the way certain people are being propped up. As far as, you know, Elon Musk would be an obvious one. I mean, he's not a Howard Roark character or anything like that. But, I mean, he's, he would sort of be somebody that Rand may have, may have written.
Starting point is 00:42:16 about or someone like that. Something like that. Litnik, too, is another one who, he seems like he's out of, he could be out of a Iran novel. But that's a little bit more what I see. I think the, really is just how some of the villains that are being presented are just out of, out of comic books, really. you know, whether it be, I mean, look at Dan Crenshaw. He's got a fucking eye patch. I mean, how perfect? How perfect is that?
Starting point is 00:42:55 And you have Mitch McConnell, who's a dottering old fool who, you know, still is somehow still wields power. And then you have this whole thing about, you know, who's running the NSA under, you know, under Biden. But a bunch of trans, furry, piss party, disgusting, you know, really should be not allowed to be in public or should be, you know, embarrassed to go into public kind of people. And these are all basically, and the only difference is in a lot of the comic books, at least the villains are somewhat charismatic. And these people aren't even charismatic. I mean, Lex Luthor, I mean, the first time you saw Superman, the Christopher Reeve for a Superman, Gene Hackman is Lex Luthor. There had to be a part of you that was rooting for him.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah, and even, and even, not that you would root for the Joker, but the Heath Ledger version, you could understand the darkness of him. Yeah, when you're, if you're, like, if you're under 21 years old or you've never had a mortgage, you know, you identify with Batman. you get a little bit older and you start paying bills and you're like, this Joker guy is making a lot of, making a lot of sense here. And that would be both the Heath Ledger and the Joaquin Phoenix one.
Starting point is 00:44:26 For sure. Well, I mean, I much more identify with the Heath Ledger one because, I mean, it was just pure nihilism and being Gen X. I mean, if you're Gen X, what else are you other than just, you know, a closet nihilist of some sort? You, it's the way you put it with the villains, you know, Dan Crenshaw, I mean, would he get caught in a hot mic, or wasn't even a hot Mike? He said he was going to shoot Tucker Carlson. Yeah, he wanted to kill Tucker. If he met Tucker Carlson, he'd kill him. You know, and Tucker did the right thing. Hey, come on my show. Yeah, because Crenshaw doesn't mean it. He's, yeah, he's, he's an impotent fool who's, you know, doing the bidding of other people. Um, he's just a, a mouthpiece for whoever. pays him and and funds him. But yeah, like I was saying, they're not even charismatic.
Starting point is 00:45:22 At least, you know, whether it's Mr. Freeze or the penguin or so. These are charismatic villains. You know, we expect the villain to be, because if you live in a, if you grew up in a comic book world, you expect the villain to be somewhat, you know, likable. These people aren't even likable. They're detestable. You know, so it's like, and it was like Tucker Carlson said years ago about elites. He's like, I don't mind elites.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I just want impressive elites. Even elites that, you know, you didn't agree with. They could be somewhat oppressive in the past, impressive in the past, and oppressive. But they could be somewhat impressive in the past. Now they're just not. There's nothing to, there's nothing to, there's nothing to admire. about them at all. Yeah, McConnell, I mean, he can't walk 100 feet and he falls or he doesn't know where he's at.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I mean, Nancy Pelosi, these, I mean, these are, who are these people? How did they, you really get the idea that you have to be willing to sell your soul completely and utterly in order to be able to get into positions like that. I mean, look at Joe Biden. I mean, I get, I have this irrational anger towards people who blame the last four years on Joe Biden, what he obviously wasn't in charge. It's like, it's like, I mean, I think Barack Obama probably made some decisions on his own, but I mean, he was another one who was just, you know, owned by the same people who've owned all these people. So he seemed to have a be a little more open about his hostility to Netanyahu. But, you know, he still started, still did the Syria thing and the surge in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:47:22 He's just doing what his people told him to do. Now, Donald Trump may be doing, you know, I'm not going to say maybe, is doing what the people who around him are telling him what to do. You just have to hope that the people who are around him line up with your values more than the people who have in the past and the people who are being shut out. And hopefully, I put out a tweet this morning. I said, defunding these people, defunding the regime apparatchiks is perfectly fine. But they've been stealing millions and billions for years. They have war chest. They have money scrawled away.
Starting point is 00:48:03 You have to go after them and you have to take that away from them. I don't care what that sounds like. They have to be utterly destroyed. And that starts with destroying them monetarily and making sure they can never take power again. Because all this work that's being done, even if you are dismantling the deep state, even if you see the ATF disappear or the FBI
Starting point is 00:48:28 become just basically a police force and where you see the CIA just whatever, even if they become things, things that you're okay with, that you're like, okay, that's the amount of power I think they should have. If Trump loses in 20, if or Trump's successor loses in 2028 and you get a regime apparatchik that comes back into power, these are people who still have, and you haven't taken away the money that funds them, I mean, they're going to come back with a vengeance. and I've taken to saying on some of my substacks,
Starting point is 00:49:08 this isn't going to be like them, like the J6 people who, you know, they threw in cells. They're going to kill you. They're going to kill people. They're going to get revenge upon people. Remember,
Starting point is 00:49:22 whoever wrote that speech for Biden that he spoke in Philadelphia, a third of the country was semi-fascist. That's the way they think. And with everything they're crying over now, do you think if they ever get power again that things are going to be better or probably equal to what you saw from 2020 to 2024? Oh, it's going to be exponentially worse. And it's going to be like, you know, targeting of enemies on a Spanish Civil War level where they're just going to kill people. And for people who don't believe that, they do not understand what the ideology that possesses these people is.
Starting point is 00:50:17 You know, this left, this, someone would call it leftism, but this progressivism, this, even this, like, I mean, I've, it's a book called Demon and Democracy by Rizard Lagutko. I've read it on my, on my show. he shows just how close communism and liberalism is. I mean, they are just kissing cousins. These people are, unless they're utterly destroyed now, that they can never come back. If they come back and they have resources and access to resources
Starting point is 00:50:53 and things haven't been completely restructured that they can't use these resources to their advantage again, we're in trouble, man. we're we're we're we're we're in trouble you know that's it feels like we're we're there's a civil war going on right now with the elites right and i and i use this reference weft 2.0 with Elon and all the big tech people but you know they're they're trying to now with trump all these executive orders annihilate the other side so my question is i ask myself and i'm going to ask you
Starting point is 00:51:31 the other side right now. Do they just wait this out, stay in the bunker, wait until 28? Or how do they respond? Because this will go back and forth, back and forth until people start dying, in my opinion. So what do they do? They stay in retreat mode right now? Because what Trump is doing, in my opinion, there's such a flurry right now that the other side, they just can't keep up.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Like they can't respond. They can't keep up with the pace that they're moving. Well, think about it as a boxing match. I've never been a big UFC guy just because I haven't been exposed enough to the UFC. But when I was growing up, I was a big boxing guy. Big boxing guy. We've talked about that, right? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I love boxing. I used to watch Manny Pacquayle train and I'll tell you all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. But boxing, what is, especially when you get into the, into the lighter weights. A lot of it is just flurry after flurry after flurry and you're looking for the knot.
Starting point is 00:52:36 You're looking for your spot. You're wearing them down, wearing them down, or you're just hitting them what's so much at once that you're putting them off balance and you're looking for that one shot. Hopefully that's what this is. Hopefully this flurry is just, and I think it does.
Starting point is 00:52:54 In my opinion, they're off balance right now that the regime apparatchiks don't know what to do because I believe a lot of them have stored wealth. But, yeah, it only goes so far, unless you can control levers of power to use it. What I'm hoping is, is that this flurry is leading to a knockout blow. What that knockout blow looks like, I'm not going to venture a guess because then you start getting into Fed posting territory, and I'm not going to do that. It's Fed posting territory, Pete?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Fed posting is Fed posting is when you, if you ever see people online going, you know, what we need to do is we need to take up arms and overthrow the government. That would be like something a Fed would
Starting point is 00:53:45 like if you have a group, I'll put it this way, say you have a group of people and you know, you get together and you talk about politics and you go fishing. Then you add a new guy to the group and the new guy's like, hey, you know what we should do
Starting point is 00:54:00 we should start really practicing with guns and you know with weapons and you know that mayor is really giving us a lot of problems we should do something about it the assumption is that guy's the Fed that guy was sent in there to infiltrate
Starting point is 00:54:15 and to try to get you to commit violence and I'd saying that you know you want this person dead or that person dead is like that would be considered Fed posting where you're calling for violence or you're looking for violence, or you're calling people to commit violence. But the, you know, I mean, these people need to pay.
Starting point is 00:54:37 And I'm not saying they need to be killed. I'm not saying they, you know, examples need to be made. You need to have, you know, you just start building gallows. But people need to, you need to see people frog marched. You need to see people in front of a judge. And you need to see people going to jail. And if you're not going to, to completely go after these people's wealth, completely tear down their systems, and make
Starting point is 00:55:09 sure that, you know, you just target individuals and you're like, this person can never hold an elected office, they can't start an NGO, they can't start a nonprofit, they can't even start a company. Then, you know, you have to look at how you go forward. Because these people, they're never going to stop. It's never going to end. And that's the, that's the one thing that people don't want to hear about politics is that politics is eternal, that you can never sleep on it. When you think you've won, that's when you've lost, because you're going to sit back. You're going to, you're, you're going to stop gatekeeping. You're going to think, oh, you know, we need to let some, you know, maybe we need, everything's good now.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Look how flush we are. The government's no longer in debt. We have a surplus. We need to start taking care of people. And we need to start. Let's start an organization to figure out. Let's start a government program to figure out how to, no, that's where it's, that's where it begins.
Starting point is 00:56:16 These people have to be utterly destroyed. The government just needs to become a, an organization that protects the people and issues checks, issues checks to people who deserve them. And you know exactly where they're going. And it's it. I mean, if Andrew Yang was right about one thing, the best thing the government is good at is handing out checks. You just have to know, you have to make sure it's not, they're not social security checks for people who are 200 years old. So you have to, you know, these people, I'll just reiterate, these people need to be destroyed or else, you know, the future is not good. They're going to come back with a vengeance. And they're going to come back someday anyway.
Starting point is 00:57:07 That's just the way the world works. And you're going to have, you just going to have to be ready for it. You're going to have to have at least re-engineered the structure of power so that they can't just step in and automatically start doing things as business as usual. Hopefully you put some checks and balances in there. Yeah, we're also dealing with humans, so humans are imperfect. So, you know, you just really do the best you can do. Do you think they wait this out then, wait this flurry out, almost like, did you ever see Winfielder Kings? I'll be forming documentary?
Starting point is 00:57:46 No, no, no, no. I want to, but no. It's fantastic. I think that's the, is that the documentary about the fight in Manila? No, Zaire. It was the rumble. Your fight. If you've never seen it, I was actually fortunate to me, the director, when I was in L.A.,
Starting point is 00:58:08 watching Pac-Eau train 15 years ago now. But, you know, if you know the premise of the rope adobe, Ali just held on the ropes and let Foreman punch himself out. So in this case, do you think the other side is 28 in their view, or even 26, the midterm, that they start to strike back, that maybe the Trump administration will be like a foreman and have punched themselves out? I'm not saying it's going to happen, but is that the strategy, if you're them?
Starting point is 00:58:38 Possibly. I don't know if 26 is the midterms is, depending on what Trump does. Now, you know, Luongo thinks that he's going to work on getting rid of the income tax by the midterms. If he gets rid of the income tax by the midterms, he'll have super majorities in the House and Senate. they're going to come back at some point.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I don't know. When you look at the way people are reacting to this, that it's a very small minority that are really screaming, that this is unfair. And you see that, like, RFK gets pushed through. And Tulsi gets pushed through. gets pushed through and cash Patel gets pushed through
Starting point is 00:59:34 cash beths other said he wants to end the FBI and he gets pushed through maybe just maybe they are they're sitting it out and they're just going to buy their time and this would be a I mean it would be a good tactic
Starting point is 00:59:54 actually a really good tactic from the Muslim world if you know anything about the Iranian revolution that was basically planned for, you know, decades because they were just waiting for the proper time. And, you know, when you have a, well, I don't know. Now I'm thinking about it. It's like, but, you know, Muslims believe in the eternal. These people don't believe in the eternal. They're mostly atheists and they believe
Starting point is 01:00:25 everything happens now. Huh. Put it this way. If Trump accomplishes a lot and the country looks like it's getting back together, it's back on his feet, and morale is great. And they lose the midterms. Despite everything looking their way, then you have to question whether we can even have elections anymore. Because the people are too fucking stupid to be allowed to have a say in it. You know,
Starting point is 01:01:06 because if people, two years from now want the people from the past four years to be back in charge in two years, then I would say that voting is done.
Starting point is 01:01:22 That people cannot be allowed to vote anymore and that, you know, quote unquote, democracy is dead. And the only way you're going to go forward and even have a hope of peace is to have a strong man dictator take
Starting point is 01:01:37 over and put people in their place. It's just the question is whether it's going to be a left or a right dictator. What do you think the future? I had Z-Man on over the weekend and, you know, we were talking about... He'll be on our... He'll be on the Old Glory Club live stream tomorrow night. Oh, is he? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It'd be fun. He's showing his face now, too. He's unmasked himself. Yeah, I've met him a couple times. We've hung out a couple times. So, yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, I know you guys go way back. Yeah, we were talking about you.
Starting point is 01:02:07 actually on the show. But I asked him, you know, what do you think the future is of the Democratic Party as we sit here today? Because the bench doesn't look too deep, man. Well, I mean, you know, I guess there's a lot of questions there is, do they want to keep with the degenerate stuff, with the trans stuff, with it? Do they go tread? Is there like, I'm not talking about, like, you know, like Catholic traditionalists or something like that. but they start moving more towards a center. Or do they double down on this stuff?
Starting point is 01:02:48 Because what you could hope for is that they double down on this stuff. Because if they double down on all of this, then I think that was repudiated in November. And people just don't want it anymore. So maybe you hope that they double down on it. You know, you... Joy Reed just got fired from MSNBC. Um, someone else was, another high profile person was just fired.
Starting point is 01:03:15 White guy, I think. I don't remember who it was. Um, if you start seeing these people, they're phasing these people out. And, you know, if you remember, basically CNN and cable news was dead in 2016. The only thing that kept them going was Trump. And really the only thing that kept them going was Russiagate. You know, the Russia gate, I mean, it had. I mean, now you don't know whether these ratings are real or not.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But, I mean, something like, you know, there was 20 million people were tuning into Rachel Maddow every night if you believe the numbers or something like that because of Russiagate. I mean, they don't have that anymore. They've tried, they're trying that now. Oh, people are just ignoring it. People don't care. You know, Rachel, I think I heard that Joanne Reed's show was getting 40,000
Starting point is 01:04:11 viewers a night on cable news 40,000. I mean, there are podcasts that have more, more than that. I mean, I have friends that have podcasts and get five times that amount on every episode. I mean, how do you, I don't know if anybody wants to hear this stuff anymore. And I think a big part of it is X, is Twitter. they don't own Twitter anymore they don't get to control what goes on Twitter anymore you know you put up somebody puts up a
Starting point is 01:04:54 a pro-Israel tweet and an anti-Hamas tweet and there's not there's 10 times more people on there saying fuck Israel you know I don't have to like Hamas to say fuck Israel fuck all of you we don't care we don't want anything to do with it fight your war we don't give
Starting point is 01:05:14 of shit. We just don't want anything to do it. We don't want a dollar to go. We don't want a dollar of ours to go toward it. Screw you. And people couldn't say that five, six years ago. You couldn't say that three years ago. I mean, I think really the game changer was Musk, Musk buying Twitter because I think a bunch of us figured out a couple years, you know, a few years ago that social media was, we used to say back in 2017, 2018, Twitter is not real life. Twitter may not be real life, but a lot of narratives, even if they're not true narratives, even if they're made up, even if they're serving the purpose of just one group, yes, I know this. But that's where they start. That's where they propagate.
Starting point is 01:06:05 That's where they go. That's where they spread. They also die there. I mean, I just don't know how, if nobody's watching cable news. Nobody's tuning into their podcasts and they can't control, you know, speech on Twitter. And yes, I know that some people have been thrown off at Twitter and there are still censorship on Twitter. Yeah. That goes back to, we want things the way we want or else we're going to throw a tantrum.
Starting point is 01:06:38 It's still fucking better than it was five years ago. And I think as long as it stays that way, I mean, the only only. only way, I'll say this. The only way the left gets power again, or this, or the progressive Nuremberg, New Deal regime,
Starting point is 01:06:58 this, these people who've been running the administrative state and their forebearers for all these years get power again. It's by force. I think they're going to have to do it by force. I think people are just set,
Starting point is 01:07:13 I think people are fed up with it. How so by force? So, How would you envision? I'm not an FBI agent or whatever, by the way, Pete. I know. I know. Before you say that, I had a friend of mine, we became friends connected through email,
Starting point is 01:07:30 and then we started talking on the phone, and I met up with him for dinner a couple years ago with his son. And he said, you know, this guy, he might be at FBI, FBI informant or something. He's like, I have no idea, meaning me. And obviously, you know, I consider you a friend, even though we've never met in person, but it was just funny. I'm like, man, do I fit the FBI profile? I'm five foot five.
Starting point is 01:07:50 You know, a social guy you ever see when you're out and about anywhere I go, like the places I frequent. But it was just kind of funny. Like, I'm like, oh, this is the world we're in now, because you just don't know. But sorry, I cut off your thought. No, that's, you know, yeah, I mean, I just, look, they were able to fund many armies to go into the street. in 2020.
Starting point is 01:08:18 There are always going to be, quote, unquote, disaffected youth. There are always going to be, and here's another one. I haven't even talked about getting academia under control. If you don't get academia under control, especially colleges and universities, this cancer keeps spreading. I think Zoomer guys are a, little starting to, you know, see that all that stuff is faking gay. And they tend to be a little more right wing, even a lot more right wing than myself,
Starting point is 01:08:56 in many cases. But the, it seems like a lot of the girls aren't. A lot of the girls are still susceptible to shit libery. You know, if you can put an army out on the street in certain sounds, you can cause a lot of, a lot of problems. And you can cause overreactions. And maybe we will, maybe we're creating an environment and a culture that looks at 2020 and looks at Kenosha, Wisconsin and goes, you know, you shouldn't have had to rely on a 17-year-old to kill pedophiles and wife beaters. Maybe we send 82nd Airborne in like we did in Los Angeles back in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:09:46 and we put this riot down. Maybe the people will be open to that. And maybe when the international, when the globalists start screaming about it from other countries, we just left the middle finger to them and go, fuck you, this is the way we do things now. I don't know, man. I think there's a lot of options that people aren't thinking of.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I think a lot of people think I'm completely white-pilled in Pollyanna about everything that Trump's doing. I like a lot of what he's doing. I think a lot of what he's doing is can benefit me personally and can benefit a lot of my people personally from monetary standpoint and also getting your ducks in a row, taking the heat off. Taking a break from all the nonsense. Yeah. Yeah, taking a break from the nonsense. And letting people get used to a world without, you know, a culture without the nonsense.
Starting point is 01:10:46 and then desiring that and demanding it. And so that the elites look and go, yeah, I mean, it's good for business. This is what we want. Do you see Jeff Bezos's tweet? Yeah, get rid of what it was. Dei, right? Is that what it was? Yeah, I mean, he's hiring, he's saying the editorial department is going to be about promoting free markets, free markets and,
Starting point is 01:11:14 getting, well, I mean, like the anti-diversity, anti-D-I stuff and anything like that. I mean, the easiest thing you can do, and you probably should, is look at that and go, well, I mean, what is he doing here? What's he setting you up for? But I think that people like him put their finger up to the wind, see which way it's blowing. And it's like, well, I was blown in this direction now. I need to be over here. I need to be promoting this. I need to be a little more on the side of this White House
Starting point is 01:11:52 because this White House looks like it is going after people like me. Like they would look upon people like me and the way I've operated my business as the enemy up until now. So, I mean, is the Washington Post going to continue to be the mouthpiece for the CIA? I mean, basically, the Washington Post has been, what, CIA op for decades? I don't know. But I think it's interesting to see messages like that being put out by Basos, by Basos, of all people. I mean, but, you know, people are like Soros, haven't changed her tunes.
Starting point is 01:12:35 You know, the people, the city of London people haven't changed her tunes. W.E.F. hasn't changed her tune. EU hasn't changed her tune. these people still exist out there. They still wield a lot of power and they still have a lot of influence on the international stage. That means they have influence in our country.
Starting point is 01:12:52 So maybe that's why, you know, the vice president gets sent over there to smack them down and, you know, insult them to their face. We didn't even talk about Bongino. I mean, that's, I don't, see, I just don't know enough about Dan Bonino. Never really followed him.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I know he used to be Secret Service or something like that. And was he NYPD at some point? I don't know if he's NYPD. I mean, to me, I think my mom listens to him every day. And so she's always telling me what he's saying. And, you know, I met Bracken on here a lot, and he listens to him. But, you know, the fact that he's giving up his show,
Starting point is 01:13:31 because he's got a big audience on Rumble, and he's giving that up. I think he's a partner in Rumble as well. But so the money that he's going to be, you know, sacrificing in order to do this is what I find just, yeah, I mean, it's fascinating to me. I didn't think, you know, why give up a gig you have for this? Well, I mean, maybe we're reentering the age of the people who know how to do something, an expert on something being recruited into the government. you know, it's not 50 to 75 years ago that someone like Elon Musk would have been tracked down and said, you're working for the government, you're working for us. We need the best and the brightest minds to work for us.
Starting point is 01:14:25 There was a time that that happened. And maybe some people are, you know, seeing that. Maybe, you know, that's why Lutnik and, what's his name, Whitkoff? who's doing the uh doing the negotiations with Israel and do it and uh Ukraine and Russia maybe that's why they're doing these things maybe they're I'm not saying that they have to have their your interests at heart but maybe they're doing it for some kind of patriotic you know they feel like is their patriotic duty or something like that maybe that's the kind of age we're
Starting point is 01:15:08 we're re-answering And it could be something we enter out of rather quickly. You know, it used to take forever. It took 40 years to even, for a lot of people, to even realize that we had an administrative state and that the New Deal basically created that. But, you know, we also have only had the Internet now since, what, 1991, 92?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Information travels so much faster now. You know, one of the things that we, we've talked about on my show before is that, you know, in 1998, when I discovered the Institute for Historical Review and, yeah, doing revisionist history, and I was reading articles and booklets that they had out there talking about the JQ. I mean, that wasn't something you talked about openly. it was something it was something you and your friends whispered about you you lent him the pamphlet he read it then you had a conversation in private it's openly being discussed in public now
Starting point is 01:16:23 and sure have heard this stuff about oh anti-semitism bills and anti-semitism executive orders but if you really look at it it's trying to crack down on far people from outside of the country students from other places Sure, it could be used to crack down on people who are talking about it publicly, who may even be on the regime side. But what I'm saying is that I never thought that something like that would be discussed openly, that someone like Tucker Carlson would have, who has the biggest podcast in the world, would have, you know, Daryl Cooper on and Jarrell Cooper would openly question the World War II. to the point where like the White House, you know, chastised him and, you know, basically said that he was wrong.
Starting point is 01:17:27 I think in this information age when all this information is available to us and people are finally figuring out how to use it and how to compile information and use AI, you know, you can put a book into AI now. and it'll give you like all the main bullet points where you can just, you know, Ron Unz has done that on his website. Ron Unz, he writes articles anywhere from 6,000, sometimes 20,000 words. And he puts out the audio for it. And I still don't have two hours to sit down and listen to. But he's finally, he's finally attached on his, on his website to his article. If you look at the article and there's an AI button and you hit the AI.
Starting point is 01:18:15 button and it gives you an AI synopsis all the bullet points of the article you can get so much information so fast now you can debunk you know reports in real time you see that happen on Twitter all the time on on social media i just think change can happen a lot fucking faster now and you still have you know i'm not saying that oh all of these old um networks of power that seeking to keep the truth away from us or to keep us in bondage to this, you know, to the post-war consensus, you know, the World War II consensus or the Civil Rights Act consensus aren't in play, aren't still in play. It certainly seems like they're dying to some extent. You know, it, just the fact that you can call a person a retard on Twitter is a lot different.
Starting point is 01:19:15 We didn't even get into the whole AI, the evolution of AI, and how fast that seems to be moving. I'm... Do you use it? Do you use any of that stuff? Yeah, I do. But I agree with my friend Charles Haywood. I think that... I think it has a cap.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I don't believe that AI is capable of doing some of the things that the Dumers think it's going to be able to do. I just don't think maybe sometime in the far future, but there's a big difference between being able to, you know, plug a book in and it reads the book for you really quick or it has stored references to that book where it can give you bullet points and, you know, managing this gigantic panopticon and it, or, you know, becoming sentient unto itself. I just I'm not I'm not buying that at this point.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You know, people have to remember something. When someone tells you, especially somebody who's in the AI business, that AI can do, our AI can do this, they're looking for you to send them money. They're looking for people with lots and lots of money. They're overselling the hype so that people will invest with them. This is something that everyone who, anyone who's ever talked to somebody in VC knows.
Starting point is 01:20:46 They're always overselling what it can do so that they can get money coming to them. And a lot of times that Howard Hughes talked about this in a book I was reading where he would say, there were times I just went after a government contract and I built something that would never be able to get off the ground. But all I had to do was show that that was my intention. So, I mean, I don't even believe half of the stuff that I see when people say, oh, technologically, this thing can do that and everything. And I actually have some investments in some of these companies, but I still don't believe that they're going to be the end of the world. Yeah, the whole Terminator 2 terminator scenario, I don't envision that. And, because I know you hear those types of, these AIs will become, you know, they'll have a motion and Skynet.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah. Skynet and Cyberdine. We have to destroy Cyberdine. Wasn't it Cyberdine? Was that the name of the company, Terminator 2? I think it was Cyber9. Yeah. That might be another movie, but I think it was Cyber9.
Starting point is 01:21:54 And, uh, you had the hand and the chip, right? Those are the two components. But everybody's always reverse engineering something. Well, and that's like one of my favorite movie. when I was a kid. I don't know if you and I talked about that last month, but I could still watch that movie today, and it's still holds up. I mean, one and two are just fantastic. Both of them are really good. And one is really underrated. Oh, yeah, just an aside, I saw this. I guess this is popular and goes around the internet, but was it Lance Henriksen and Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton were the two
Starting point is 01:22:35 actors, only two actors who were killed by a Terminator, Alien, and Predator. Lance Henrickson wasn't killed by an alien, though, right? He was cut in half, but he lived. Yeah, he, well, no, he ended up, no, no, when they showed up in Alien 3, when they showed up, he was, he was, he was no longer alive. Oh yeah, but don't you remember Sigourney, I mean, nitpicking here, but Sigourne? Weaver programmed to back end. All right, now you're not...
Starting point is 01:23:11 Bill Paxton was killed by a predator? It was Predator 2, the one in Los Angeles. Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. On the subway. Yeah, and then Lance Hendrickson died by Alien versus Predator. Yeah, which was actually not a bad movie.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Yeah, yeah. No, that's a real... The Alien versus Predator is a great movie. Yeah. Yeah. Second one, not so much. I tell people... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Not so much. But I tell people, if they'd never seen Alien versus Breit. Oh, that just sounds retarded. I'm like, no, watch it. It's better than what you would have thought. Yeah, the whole story surrounding it is a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Because I remember walking in the mall and seeing like an ad for it at the theater when it was coming out. And I'm like, this is retarded.
Starting point is 01:23:57 And then like 10 years later, I turn it on. And I'm like, oh, wow, this is really entertaining. And the story is a lot better than I thought it was. We're going to talk about movies again. I'm like, yeah, sure. We might only take the last five minutes because we're right. running out of time here anyway with you. Well, you know, and I never thought that the predators would get bitch slapped around the way they do.
Starting point is 01:24:14 I mean, the aliens whooped their ass. Well, I mean, you had to get the idea that the aliens would. I mean, their blood. I mean, it's, how did they kill the aliens? I mean, you had to put them out the lock or, and, I mean, did that even kill them? You know, no, you mean, you really had to just basically destroy them. Abliterate them. So coming back, so the AI world, I know we're getting out of time, running out of time here with you, but the AI world to me, I think that, I think it's going to have an impact on some of the white collar jobs, right? Accounting, developing. Absolutely, absolutely. And I don't think it's too far down the road. I mean, depending on who you talk to, who I've talked to, probably who you've spoken with, you know, the idea of a CPA, what kind of value is that going to hold the next five to ten years?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Yeah. I mean, well, if you get rid of the income tax, basically now all they're going to be doing is books. And as someone who's done books, who wasn't a CPA, and I've done books for businesses before, it's not hard. It's a little bit of training, and anyone with a mathematical and an analytical mind can do it.
Starting point is 01:25:35 But, yeah, I mean, AI should be able to do all of that. I think there's going to be a lot of uses for AI. And yeah, I think it's going to, a lot of people are going to be, um, are going to be looking for new jobs. Um, how that plays out, I don't know. Way above my pay grade, man. Way above my pay grade. Medical billing, medical coding, those types of positions.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Real estate? What are you going to need a real estate agent for? Oh, that's already happening. There's already, um, I, I know of AI programs for real estate, yeah. Well, and what you pay to a real estate agent when you buy a house, I'm probably going to get some shit for people for this. But real estate agent, you ever sat at that table? There's five people with their hands out there.
Starting point is 01:26:18 There are a bunch of people getting a piece of the pie when you buy a house. That's for sure. And that to me is, I mean, you know, there was a story going around with NAR and they were having a legal battle. And I haven't heard about it in a while. It was almost like it was like a big tech versus NAR. our legal battle. And it was like six or eight months ago, and I haven't heard anything since that. But to me, that seems imminent that at some point, not imminent, but it's heading in that direction
Starting point is 01:26:49 to where, you know, you buy a house and you just go through some type of software or AI. What do you need a real estate agent for to walk you through it to do the paperwork? Yeah. No. I mean, yeah, we shall see. And I mean, anyone who sat at that table buying a house knows that you'd rather deal with a computer. What do you need an appraiser for? What do you need a real estate developer for?
Starting point is 01:27:20 I mean, appraiser, I'm trying to think. I think that appraiser was here for 10 minutes. It's like literally 10 minutes. It's like, come on. Come on, what are you doing? And would it cost you? $200, $300? I can't remember, but it was probably two or three.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Yeah. Inspector. Inspector was more, but wanted a little bit more inspection than others. I think that's one place where the human, where humans are not going to be replaced by AI. You need a good inspector, especially if you're buying an old house. I mean, our house is built in 1940. You definitely want people to, you want a human to come out here and look with their eyes. And then health care, you know, how much of an impact will that have in terms of dealing with some type of AI practitioner?
Starting point is 01:28:20 Definitely for coding and for insurance claims. Yeah, I mean, there were already, I remember when my mom was dying. And this was in 2005. they already had robots that were doing surgeries at that time. So I can just imagine how much more advanced they are now. I had a friend who was a surgeon, and I think it was called a Da Vinci robot, and because the human hand can only bend so much that the Da Vinci was, and this is what you just said 15 years ago, so I can't even, it had to evolve even more.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Yeah. I mean, technology should be all about serving humans. That's it. That's it. That's what we want technology for, is to make our lives easier and to extend our lives. That's it. You sound to me, you know, I feel like every time I talk to you, you have a, you have a good optimism about you. I always feel better after you and I talk for an hour and a half. Well, here's the thing. In 2008, you remember the financial crisis in 2008? How did that affect your life? Not much.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I mean, basically, most of the stuff that we worry about, it never, like, materializes. We normally forget about it two months down the line if someone reminds us that we were worried about that. we may even be like, I don't even remember worrying about that. I mean, I just don't see the point in there's so, when I think back of all the things I worried about in life, I mean, so little of it actually materialized to become something that, you know, affected me that I had to deal with. I just think that we, we have a tendency to believe that things that happen politically, especially at the national level and stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:30:52 we're going to affect us and are going to affect our lives in significant ways. Most of the time they don't. Most of the time they don't. Yeah, on the state level here, I've seen Katie Hobbs come under more scrutiny and I'm hoping, here I'm using the word hope, something materializes with that.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Although she's up for re-election next year. Arizona. Yeah, I mean, things can, I mean, I guess the one thing that can really, politically, that can really have an effect on people is demographics. I guess that's the one thing that's really important. And, you know, at this point, that whole thing we were talking about Eric Prince, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And Trump was asked about that today at the press conference for the meeting, for the meeting of his board for the cabinet.
Starting point is 01:31:47 And they said, oh, have you talked to Eric Prince? He's like, no, no, no, I haven't. And I'm like, well, you also said that you didn't know anything about Project 2025. And so much of Project 2025 is being implemented right now. So I don't know. Let's see what, I mean, I've been following, Eric Prince came back on the scene and started doing podcasts and then started promoting stuff about, oh, God, a year ago. they started his own podcast off leash and I've been following him
Starting point is 01:32:20 and I think there's a reason why he's coming back into the coming back into the public and he's coming back in the way he is and he's also talking about like free markets and libertarianism and Bitcoin and things like that I'm going to be interested to see if Trump says I haven't spoken to Eric Prince I'm interested to see if he takes Eric Prince up on his
Starting point is 01:32:45 offer, or if that's an offer that was actually floated to him and that he's just putting it out there in the zeit guys to get people to gauge how people react to that. But yeah, I think the one thing, the one thing I'm most worried about right now is demographics and immigration. It not only needs to be stop, but it needs to be reversed. And, you know, that's, I know a lot of people who said, if Trump only addressed immigration that would consider that to be a win. And it seems like he's addressing it, but not as fast
Starting point is 01:33:22 as a lot of people would like it. And maybe he's seen the complaints and his people have seen the complaints and they floated this out there to see how people reacted to it. I said, I saw my wife last night, I said, I would love to see Musk do one of his polls. Be like, should we have Eric
Starting point is 01:33:44 Eric Prince do this and lay down the whole thing and pay him the $25 billion to accomplish this in by the midterms. 15 million deported and do a yes or a no. And then just go off of that Fox Populi Vox Day. And that would be great. The immigration issue probably is the greatest threat right now. Where can people find you, Pete? Piquignano show. Check out, that's it.
Starting point is 01:34:18 You can check that at piqueu.org. Then you can petsubstack.com and the old glory club. We have a substack, old glory club, and we live stream every Thursday and night at 8 o'clock Eastern on YouTube and on X. We're still on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:34:37 It's awesome. And for people listening, make sure you go on to Pete Substack and become a paid substack. and become a paid subscriber and contribute to what he's doing. You know, he's putting out great information. The guy works very, very hard. And, you know, I ask that people, my audience,
Starting point is 01:34:53 contribute to all the work he's putting in. I appreciate that, Mike. And right back at you, people go subscribe to Mike and make sure to donate to Mike. He has people on that I've never even heard of. and it's always a good conversation. Mike, you may be the, you may be approaching Tucker Carlson level with your guests of,
Starting point is 01:35:28 I never know what the fuck you're going to talk about with a guest. I appreciate that, man. I'm getting a little embarrassed with that compliment, but I don't know. I mean, I just, you know, I'm just, I'm not even trying to, I'm not even trying to, learning. And it's why I have people like you on.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I mean, I'm kidding myself. I can't go toe to toe with you, the amount of books you've read and the history, knowledge that you have. I don't have that. But where do you start? Yeah. And I feel like there's a lot of people in that category that they don't. Start with the Spanish Civil War.
Starting point is 01:35:59 If people want to know where to start, start with the Spanish Civil War by any book by Stanley Payne and read about the Spanish Civil War. They're going to tell you what you know about the Spanish Civil War is that, These evil fascists rise up to destroy a Republican government. Oh, you've been lied to you. You've been lied to. Go read pain and check on, if you go to my podcast and you scroll back and you search, listen to my Spanish Civil War episodes.
Starting point is 01:36:34 You'll get an idea of exactly what that was all about and why a bunch of us believe that if the left or the regime or the progressives, whatever you want to call them, if they don't get destroyed in this country utterly, we could be headed down that road. And we explain why. Pete, as always, I enjoy our conversations and look forward to the next one. Thank you, Mike. Mike drop.

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