The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on 'Fundamental Principles' w/ Jerome (Dark Enlightenment)

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

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Get the facts. Be drinkaware. Visit drinkaware. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the fundamental principle with me today is my esteemed guest and good friend, Mr. Pete Kannonas, host of the Pete Kanoano, show available on all your major podcasters. Mr. Karnas, welcome to the program. Thank you, Dee.

How are you doing, uh, I'm good. I'm good. I, I think that, um, some introduction is in order for our listeners. I just, would you just tell our listeners about yourself and, Kind of your brief sketch of a religious background? Yeah, I was born into a Catholic family, baptized the Christmas Eve, the year I was born 45 days later, raised in a Catholic household, altar boy, Catholic high school, actually started out in a Jesuit school back when it wasn't so bad. and I ended up transferring out and finishing off in a diocese of New York Catholic school graduated. Did the typical thing that a lot of guys do as soon as I graduated high school, stopped going to church.

Around the time I was 28, I started going back to church, but I went to a Baptist church. A friend invited me to a Baptist church, and I dove head first into Protestantism for about five years, which included a stint in a Presbyterian Church of America Seminary. Some people may even remember the name D. James Kennedy, who was a staunch, conservative, hardcore right-winger. It was his seminary and became through going to churches and Baptist churches and just seeing the the politics seeing how you were going to have a church split. It seemed like there was a church split every other year. I became completely just demoralized by it.

And I didn't go to church for a lot of years and started going to back when I met my wife. She's Baptist, grew up Baptist, raised in a Baptist church, started going back to Baptist church with her, a reformed Baptist church. and then when we moved to where we are now, there's a very small Nova Noro Parish Church in this community. And I felt drawn to it and went back. And as soon as I went back, I went back to confession for the first time in decades. And took communion and started calling myself a Catholic again. And yeah, I'm back home.

I'm where I'm supposed to be, where my ancestors were, and, you know, I feel very much at home. That's good. I think very typically, you know, you're a Gen X or as am I. I'm the tail in Charlie of Gen X. But, you know, the Nova Sort of Mass is only as old as us, right? It was promulgated in 1970, you know, and it's going to die with the boomers. There's nobody who really truly believes in it. Who's like a hardcore fan of the new mass who, like, has kids.

And, you know, if the church just said, you know what, this has been a mistake, we're going back to, you know, the old mass. most of the people who go to the new mass would just be like, oh, okay, and go along. I very sincerely believe that most people who still attend a Mass, who attend the Novizoro, and have children would prefer the old Mass if they had the chance. And the reason I bring up your age is that complete failure of the, the church to shepherd its people from, I don't know, 1970 to 1990, 1995, 2000, I mean, to the present, I guess, you know,

has devastating consequences for people. And, you know, ex-Catholics are the largest, or the second largest group in the United States of America, precisely because the church has failed in her mission to, to teach people and, you know, praise God, you're back. But if all you're getting is like felt banners and lousy Marty Hogan hymns, hey, Locos and Novosado Church, you're not getting anything. And it's certainly not like a place you can raise kids or maintain your own faith.

And I just would wonder if you would elaborate on that a little bit. because this complete institutional failure we're seeing, not just from the church, but from, you know, political leaders and the media. And there's nothing that you can grab onto this and say, these people aren't going to lie to me, especially after 2020, right? There's nowhere you can go that's on solid,

epistemological footing where you can say, the truth is here, at least. And I wonder if you'd just elaborate on that or talk about that a little bit. with respect to the religious stuff. Yeah, as soon as I started going back, I immediately started, you know, wondering where, if anywhere, there was a Latin Mass around here, where there was a traditional mass.

And the closest one is an hour and a half away. It's in Birmingham. And I've been to it before. The first Friday of every month, they have one. They have them every Sunday. and they're low masses. There are other ones where they do a full mass in Alabama, but we're talking two, two and a half, three hours away.

A lot of people don't realize just how big Alabama is. It's huge. And the interesting thing about it is, you know, there is a Catholic history in Alabama because it was settled by so many Germans, especially in the upper central part. of it. So there are a couple monasteries up there, actually. And so, yeah, so I, even though I, when I have to, I go to the Nova Sorosorto Mass, I will, you know, locally, I do make the trip.

One of my brothers from the, from the Old Glory Club was down here recently. And we went to the, the bass in Birmingham with he and his fiancee. And yeah, it's just completely different. in that I think one of the first things that struck me when I went was that this is what my ancestors did. This is how my ancestors worship. And this is how I should be worshipping. And another thing about going back to, see, my mom, my mom was a two to three mass a week person until 1970. And then she fell off. And it was because she liked the old style of mass.

And in New York City, you really feel everyone has a real pull to their parish church, the neighborhood church. And you would have had to travel for that. But yeah, I think that one of the reasons why after high school I fell away is because by that time, I mean, the school I went to, I went to a Catholic school, I went to Archdiocese school. It wasn't even, the quote-unquote religious class that you had every semester wasn't even religion. It was, at one point, it was my senior year, the last half of my senior year, it was like self-help. It was like Leo Buscalia kind of stuff. And so there was nothing, there was no tradition.

was no there was no real tie to to my past and i think you know thomas seven-seven seven-seven always talks about how we've just been completely deracinated from our history and we we're not allowed to live historically anymore and and yeah you yeah you you basically lived slaughter of cities yeah i mean yeah my whole neighborhood that I grew up. I grew up in the Bronx. When I was growing up, my neighborhood was predominantly Puerto Rican Dominican and probably like 60 to 70% Puerto Rican Dominican, 25 to 27% black, and it was still like a 3% Irish Redmond. And if you would have went back 20 years, that would have been like an 80% Irish neighborhood. If you would have went back 50,

50, if you had I'm back 50 years, it would have been predominantly a Jewish neighborhood, actually. But it was predominantly an Irish neighborhood, I would say 10 to 12 years, 10, 20 years before I was born. And that's why you had, that's why I was predominantly Catholic. And that's why you had, I mean, there was a parish like every. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th

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Visit drinkaware.org.com. Parish church every six blocks. You know, we had Sacred Heart School was just up seven blocks. And then St. Jerome's was one block over and one block up, and that was the church I went to growing up. And, yeah, it went from a full, you know, a full church in the 50s and 60s to you were lucky to fill that church on Easter or Christmas. And most Sundays it was maybe a quarter full. And that can be pointed directly to the slaughter of cities.

And just to mention there was in the building, I guess, grew up in right next door there was a they built they tore down a building there and they built a church and it was a like missionary Baptist church and if anybody knows what missionary Baptist church is it was a black church and that didn't exist before I grew you know when my when my mother was a child right and I you know it's not the job of the church necessarily to like like like assign you like you know, Bonsignor assigns you a GF that, you know, age 17 or something.

It says, all right. You know, Peter, you're, you're going to, you're going to get married with Becky. But it is the job of the church to create a social environment where the faith can be lived and then, you know, things flow from that. Where if you still lived in the old neighborhood and all the girls in the neighborhood knew like,

you're going to marry a local guy. And your kids are, Your parents were baptized here at St. Jerome's. You were baptized here at St. Jerome's. Your kids are going to get baptized here at St. Jerome's.

You're going to be a guy from the local parish. You know, dating outside the parish is considered exotic, right? You know, like, oh, I dated a guy from St. Patrick's down the street. You know, like, you know, three whole blocks away. He's Polish. You know, right? That environment is conducive to people, you know, getting married, having the faith, having children, having the faith passed on.

And, you know, us extras, right? We're the middle of children in history. We're, you know, Lashki kids. A lot of us, you know, didn't get married or got divorced and didn't have kids. And, and this is, you know, like structural problems, you know, like, eh. You know, if you individually don't get married, that's one thing. but when like you and all your best friends from high school and half the guys you knew in college all didn't get married there's a problem right and the james kennedy for all of his faults um you know PC USA right politically create church USA um there's at least an attempt by these folks to like create their own media and try and like live in a countercultural way that

Catholic's only just now recently started doing right you know Christian Radio was a thing going back to the 50s and you know Catholic podcast Catholic that's only been in the last 20 years that we've tried to create our own I guess you get at BTN's 30 years old now but you know like an attempt to create our own separate ecosystem has only really kind of been made in the last 30 years after the asteroid hit, after it was too late. And it's like, well, if you, if you'd kept that up, then maybe you'd have some success. But right now, you know, the average person in the pews has no idea what they're supposed to believe. They don't believe in the reality of the Eucharist.

They don't believe the church's teachings on things like contraception. And you wonder why, like, the pews are empty and people aren't getting married in the church. It's like, well, most of the people you're dealing with don't actually know what they're talking about. And because they haven't been taught, it's not, you know, I mean, you have some of all human knowledge in your pocket. but they don't even know where to start looking. Well, as we've talked about previously, you know, Western civilization had to undergo its trials and its judgment through Nuremberg, you know, through the Nuremberg trials. And the same thing was Vatican II for the Catholic Church. If there was one.

Yeah. Same people did it too. Yeah, same people are responsible. But if there was one institution that you thought would survive all of this, it would have been if you would look back through history. If you look back through our history, you would think it would be the Catholic Church. And I think it, just like everything else, it's fallen to modernity. And you, is it O'Sullivan's law of something is not explicitly right wing, it will go left wing. I mean, I don't even know if you want to call the Catholic Church right wing.

just want to call it Catholic, but as far as, like, traditional, you're, if something is not going to remain explicitly so, it's going to, it's going to veer into modernity. And that's what we saw. And, you know, some people could argue, oh, well, you know, having your own network and your radio stations. And this is, you know, is, that's just embracing modernity. No, it's just embracing tools. You know, it's no different than using a dishwasher instead of washing, you know, washing dishes by hand. It's no different than published in the Catechism with Council Trent with, you know, printing it, right?

It's just using the tool. You know, Maximilian Colby used radio to evangelize. And that was, yeah, that's conquest, one of Robert Conquest's laws of politics. It's that, which is not explicitly right wing, will eventually become left wing. It,

never though, you know, Vatican II got us Nuremberg, because fundamentally, right? And this is, this is one thing where kind of the liberals are more right than the, than the conservatives, as opposed to the traditionalists. The conservatives seek to conserve the post-war consensus, and they don't understand that the post-war consensus is inherently liberal and contradictory to the Catholic faith and to political stability and to family life and to everything, right? liberalism as such is hostile to Catholicism. And John Harry Newman talked about it.

You know, like 130 years ago. Like, you can be a liberal or you can be Christian, but you can't be both. Like, it is impossible because the nature of big L. liberalism, not talking about, you know, the Democratic Party or Librar's or anything. I'm talking about political, the political philosophy of liberalism is that, man is necessarily by his nature free and that things that impinge on that freedom are bad. You know, James Lindsay, for all of his many, many, many faults is completely correct in that, like traditional Catholicism and James Lindsay do not get along.

Now that just makes him a leftist and an enemy of all good order and decent thinking people, But that's not, he's not wrong that like traditional Catholicism and like his, his classical liberalism are in conflict. That might be the one thing he's right about. Well, I think one of the things that I see is I'm reading a book right now on the show called The Demon and Democracy by Rezgard-Lugatko. And he's, he's Polish. and I've looked, he doesn't advertise what he is, doesn't sound as Wiki, but I think that he is Roman Catholic from things I've seen, from things I've seen. And what he talks about in that book is, is that one of the hallmarks of liberalism is that you're constantly going somewhere. You're on a path, it's on a path to, it's just like communism.

It has, communism is on its path, and it has this end goal. And liberalism, has this end goal too. And the end goal is not traditionalism. It's not the Catholic Church. And it's the enemy. Because if you're on a path going somewhere and you're constantly veering off here, veering off there, which is what we see liberalism do, that's how you can veer off into transgenderism and race communism and all of these things. The church is supposed to be the rock. it's supposed to be Peter. It's not supposed to move anywhere. And what you've seen is when you...

A dog when the changes is useless. What you see is you see once someone embraces modernity, now it's no longer that rock. It's no longer that foundation upon which people can run to when there's a storm to hold on to and not be thrown to and fro, especially in their faith,

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well, obviously you're going to be picking things up along the way. And where do you stop? Yeah. I mean, there's no. And who says? This has no end point. Because one of the goals of progressivism, which I don't consider it to be any different than liberalism,

is you're going towards this. perfection, but we know that you can never reach disperfection. So basically what it turns into is it turns into a tool for deviance. It turns into a tool where deviance can control people who have a historical outlook, who are trying to live historically, and you're telling them, no, you're wrong, you have to get on this ride with us. And if you don't get on this ride with us and take on every, you know, every, you know, piece of rotten moss that this rolling rock is, is picking up, well, there's something wrong with you. And so, I mean, to me, all of this is spiritual. All this is spiritual warfare. So I can say that, oh, well, you know, the church is trying to go

along and just, you know, but no, you can't make excuses for this. You can't. There's no, you know, when he said upon this rock, I will build my church, that rock was a solid foundation. There's no solid foundation anymore. So is there any, why are people confused that there are rainbow flags outside, you know, outside of Catholic churches? Yeah, there's a church in New York, Jesuit church in New York, just recently, like celebrating a mass for perverts, right? Like, this is, of course,

completely unacceptable. And, you know, the teleology of liberalism, for those that you don't know, teleology is the study of ends. Like, what are the purposes of things? And the teleology of liberalism is to basically turn everyone into their own Satan.

Because non-Seriam is the whole of the, of the credo, of liberalism. You know, I will not serve the king. I will not serve my family. I will not serve. I won't do my duty, right, effectively. Or I have no duties or any duties that have been imposed on me or ipso facto immoral because they limit my freedom.

Well, freedom to do what? Like take a lot of drugs? Like, is that freedom? I mean, that's, you know. That is what, you know. you know, when you, you know, we both called ourselves libertarians at one time. And that's really what it is. You know, somebody, um, just on Twitter today, somebody was, I saw a couple libertarians having a conversation and one said, um, in the conversation, I guess to make a point, a libertarian says, does, does a parent have a duty to make sure that their child is taken care of and fed? And my response to it was, okay, so what's the next question? What if that child consents?

Are you retarded? Like, yes, of course they do. Like, that's like the very definition of paranoid. You got to make sure your kids eat. Yeah, I'm not a parent. I think that should be for anybody who's never heard me before. I'm not a parent. Jerome and I have talked off air before about why that is.

I don't know that it's a good excuse, but, you know, it is the reason why I never had children. But I mean, I'm also not one of those people who was ever like, no, you should never have children. Don't bring a child into this world. Maybe I've said that in the past. Maybe when I was a libertarian and I was at my most black pill that was like, why would anybody bring a child into this world?

But, you know, I've repented of all those sins. The sins of libertarianism are long. The list is long, and they must all be repented of. And there's many, many solid, wonderful people who are Catholic who identify as libertarian or used to identify as libertarian. I wouldn't be here today without stalwart, wonderful people like Tom Woods or Lou Rockwell, who are both faithful Catholics. Um, uh, the instrumental in me being here today, uh, Tom Woods's book, How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization. Absolute, a must read. You got to pick it up. You got to read it. Get a hard copy. It's an outstanding book. But him and, uh, Chris Ferrar's book, um, on, on, uh, the changes in the church.

Absolutely must read Jeffrey Tucker's, uh, writing in, in, uh, writing in, uh, in mass magazine and elsewhere, you know, instrumental in me getting here in all three, you know, but ultimately, and I want to make a distinction here between St. Thomas's, you know, in essence, good thinking is proper distinctions. Hopping in libertarians are people who wanted to get the total state off of their back so that they could live their lives. And I think that they ultimately come up to that, you know, contradiction between total freedom and the necessity of submitting yourself to God.

But wanting our awful satanic Nuremberg regime off your back so that you could actually live historically and live a Catholic life is one thing. It's the people who think that, you know, some total libertarianism is like, weed and abortion are the problem, right? Now, if every libertarian was like a Tom Woods type libertarian who just was like personally an outstanding person and just didn't want the state bothering him so he could be that sort of wonderful person that he is, you could make a case for libertarianism being a useful or good thing. But at the moment, right, like, you know, the libertarian presidential candidate is a drug.

drug-taking, you know, pervert, whose chief concern wasn't like the destruction of liberty and private property in, you know, 2020, but rather that, like, we're mean to people who, like, put on, dudes who put on dresses and we can't tell them that they can't go to the bathroom with, like, 13-year-old girls. Right. That is a religious commitment. When you're saying freedom requires fathers. to let a dude in a dress who has really weird fetishes,

use the same restroom as your preteen daughter. Like, that's not freedom anymore. That's just, pardon my language, but fucking weird. Like, there's no defending that. And the decent people I have mentioned don't defend that. They say that this is crazy. Yeah. Well, yeah, and whenever you talk about a group and you generalize there's going to be outliers there.

And Tom Woods is a really good friend of mine, and he is a good example of what you're talking about. But really attacking the path that we've gone on as a society and what we've been forced into. And believe me, there's. we have been forced into it. After World War II, you just, it is looked down upon. It is, they will make a target of you,

whether through the IRS, whether through CPS, if you are a, if you are a hardcore Catholic. And, you know, we've seen that. There's a lady in jail right now that I hope Trump is going to, is going to pardon and get out of jail or do whatever he needs to do to get her out,

who was just praying the rosary at an abortion clinic. And our Jewish attorney general targeted her. Like he's targeted so many Catholics since he's been in office. Right. And the father used the face act, right, like an insane person assaulted his son. And he, you know, stopped the guy from assaulting his son and then got thrown in jail. or had, you know, a bunch of heavily armed FBI agents like Storm his house, point guns at his kids, and, right?

You can't, you know, AAA is probably the only spiritually useful thing the United States of America has ever contributed to world culture. You know, and step one is admitting you got a problem. And step one for any cogent analysis of the Nuremberg regime is who's in charge? It's not Catholics. It's not Christians. Right. This obsession with minority rights, we always have to protect the minority. Well, who's the minority? And it's never the obvious of like, what about the rights of the majority to like live in a functional society? It's like, no, we have to, we have to make accommodations for drug addicts and perverts and, you know, mentally unstable people and people who can't read and people who, like, Like, whatever, there's always like, you know, the Z man will make the joke of, you know, like, you know, left-handed ginger creams in wheelchairs, right? And why? Like, does that person even exist?

Like, if that person exists, you know, the progressive stack says this person has to be the first person that we care about. It's like, what about all the other people who deserve to live in a functioning society? What about the vast majority of people who just want to, like, have their taxes lower? have, you know, roads don't look like the dark side of the moon and have their schools that they're paying for be like something that could actually send their kids to safely. Do they have any rights? Well, not if, not if the minority says, you know, you being functional is oppressing me. Well, they're always going to say that because to them, normality is oppression.

expecting women to get married and have kids is oppression because, you know, Zer is a lesbian and she doesn't want to get married to a dude. Now, never mind if you just stopped, you know, entertaining this nonsense, they'd find that they were happily married and had a couple kids. And if you just didn't let them have the option of this being a thing, right, that they'd be happy. and functional. And, you know, freedom to destroy yourself is not freedom.

And that's what libertarianism or our modern Nuremberg regime says, is freedom to destroy yourself as the ultimate freedom. Unless you can destroy yourself, you're not free, right? The positive moral good of, you know, seeking Canadian health care, right? Like the Canadian state or, you know, the state of Oregon or whatever, like killing yourself is freedom. but like we have no duty as the state of Oregon or the state of, you know, the nation of Canada, or national government of Canada to actually provide a stable enough society where you don't, where like you don't feel like you have to kill yourself.

Well, you know, it's not only all that, but if you're somebody who decides that they're going to take it upon themselves to promote that people don't destroy themselves, that is, you're seen as a, you're the next Hitler. You're the, you're a fascist. You're, you're somebody who wants to overthrow the order, quote unquote, order. I love that they, they call it the post-war order, you know, the post-war order. There's no order to this. You, you're not allowed to do that.

You're not, you have to hide. You have to pretend you're doing something else. You have to be somebody who becomes somebody who you're doing something outwardly. You almost have to make it seem as if you're doing something different than what you're actually doing, something that's more in line with what the order is now. And that's ironically what they call liberty. is, you know, we have liberty now, people that are free to do what they want. Well, you're free to do what you want as long as you're destroying the individual,

as long as you're destroying yourself, and as long as you're promoting destroying other people. But as soon as you try to stop people from destroying themselves, to stop people from, you know, worshipping Satan, worshiping demons, communing with demons. Then you become the person who is, now you're the bad guy. Now you're the threat to civilization. Right. Then we have to put you on a banking watch list and take away your YouTube monetization.

I know people who figured this out years ago. You know, 15 years ago, I was in Skype groups with people who call themselves sovereign citizens. And these were people who are like, we want to go totally off the grade. We don't want anything to do with this anymore. We're going to run generators. We're not even going to take the power. We're going to use our own power. We're going to generate our own power.

We're not going to pay a government agency, which is basically what most power companies and gas companies are. No such thing as like a private utility company. Right. Sorry. Yeah. The mere idea is absurd. And I know people who did that. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest.

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they're mentally ill, right? Yeah, I mean, if you don't want to, if you're not worshipping sodomy, pornography, you know, the government, this, you know, this regime transgender, you're, there obviously is something wrong with you. Well, and this is, this is one of those notions, right, that libertarianism ultimately fails. Just right. Like, because the government's always going to throw crazy people in jail. Like, that's just what it's going to do. Now, the question is, is are the crazy people that people who want, like, want to live in a woods? with their own solar panels,

or is the crazy people like Bruce Jenner? Yeah, which, who's crazy? Who destroy other people? Because they are seen in public, and they are, not only are they legitimized, but they're championed. And you wonder how, you know,

your child is questioning, how a child can question whether they're a boy or a girl. And it's because, instead of, you know, the heroes of the faith or, you know, Padre Pio or someone like that, being elevated and being talked about and being championed, which even the church doesn't do. Not anymore, no. Yeah. Then, well, what do you expect?

Well, we need to minister to these people. We need to, that's why we put the, you know, that's why we put the rainbow flagouts. we can get these people in there. We could, no, you're not trying to get them, you're not trying to get them to change. You're just trying to get them to be members. You're just, and what do they end up doing? When you let those people in the door, they always end up changing you. Right.

You never change them, ever. Because, because you, if you buy the premises, you know, I've been around a long time and you and I both have friends that were kind of the red pill game guys from 10 and 15 years ago. And a lot of that was used towards evil ends, right? Just notching up like figuring out girdles and then using that knowledge to sleep with a lot of women was was immoral. It still is immoral. But one of the things that they said that I think is absolutely true is that if you buy the frame, you buy the farm. And if you let the enemy, you know, capital E in this case, right, like, if you let Satan set the terms of debate, if you're playing on Satan's field, you're going to lose all the time.

And effectively, the post-Norinberg regime liberalism is playing on Satan's using Satan's rules. You're, you know, if you're not willing to say X is good and Y is bad and, you know, the people who people who. promote why, you know, error has no rights. If you think that, you know, Bruce Jenner is a beautiful woman. Like, I am sorry you weren't mistaken and you don't have a right to spout that nonsense in public. Because it destroys society if you do it. Well, and if you don't have, if you don't have a church that's willing to, that has wealth, that has status, that is powerful.

powerful if they want to use that power. If they're not willing to stand up and to fight against this, it's very easy to understand how people can become blackbilled. Because you look around and you're like, okay, who's fighting against this? Donald Trump? And then people are like, well, we just go and we vote for Donald Trump and everything. Donald Trump is a post-Norberg Civil Rights Act liberal. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, like, you just appointed Kimberly Gilfoyle, right? The, like, twice divorced, broke off an engagement with Don Jr., like single mom, like plastic surgery at the wazoo. Like, he just appointed her ambassador to Greece. Like, this is not a, like. One of the oldest Christian civilizations on the planet. Right. Yeah. Right.

Like, you know, the Greeks became. Christians and gave us the church fathers. You know, the Aztecs became Christian and gave us, you know, after 500 years of being Christian, the Greeks gave us the church fathers. Almost in their entirety, right? They gave us the translation of the scriptures. And, you know, 500 years of the Aztecs being Catholic, we've gotten our lady Guadalupe tattoos and like candles. You know, like this is, things are different. Not all things are the same.

Not people are the same. You know, some people are tall. Some people are short. Some people are smart. Some people are stupid. That's just the nature of reality. And anybody that wants to sit there and say that, you know, the point of the show is that, like, reality exists. Right. And this Nuremberg regime, effectively, it's one, like, unbreakable commandment is that equality, Uber Alas.

Right. And that doesn't mean, you know, that means they'll. you know, staples, stilts to a short guy's feet and cut a tall guy off at the knees and, you know, like do island of Dr.

Moreau type stuff to make everyone the same height. It's like, well, that's monstrous and evil and wrong. Well, not an oppressive equality isn't because that's, that's the one true, that that's the one real God we have is.

And of course, that leads to a terrible society, right? And the church goes right along with it. Right. Because continue, please. Yeah. Well, no, because it's following the world's footsteps.

You know, one of the reasons why I said one of the reasons why I left just became very quickly disillusioned with Protestantism is because of the splinters. Because it is a protest. It's one gigantic protest. And I understand, like, the history of it. You know, I tried to go to confessional churches. Even when I went to a Baptist church, it was a Baptist church. It went by the 1689 confession. And that's great.

You're saying, okay, this is what we believe. We have this confession. We have the Westminster Confession of Faith. We have the 1689 Baptist Confession. Okay. But you're also saying that people can read the Bible. and interpret it for themselves. So what really, what is that confession for other than it's a guideline?

It's what this is what gives us our legitimacy. Yet we have people in there who can believe whatever they want and be feminists and, you know, promote abortion, things like that. And it's the same problem with it. the Catholic Church is there was a time in the Catholic Church where if you stepped out of line, if you went against the catechism, what the church believed, you were pulled aside and you went through discipline. Yeah. Well, and look at Bishop Williamson, right? The one, the one bishop who's been like, no, is, you know, he, he questioned the official religion of the Nuremberg regime.

Right. And that's, that's unacceptable. but Nancy Pelosi can be like, nah, Archbishop Corleone is not going to do anything. I'm going to receive community. It's my faith. He can't tell me what to do. So like,

okay, well, me and Nancy Pelosi agree that, you know, the bishops are spineless worms and they'll never do anything. Like, like,

you know, here's this woman who's, who's, uh, obstinate is, you know, like, she's a public manifest heretic.

And these guys don't have the stones to do anything. but they'll go after, you know, podcasters who think that bagels aren't our friends because they believe what the Nuremberg machine teaches. They're not Catholics. You know, when I was in the Baptist Church, I remember being with a friend of mine, hanging out with a friend of mine who was more traditional, he was, he liked the idea of home churches. he believed that the New Testament taught that, oh, they met in homes, and the supper was not the Eucharist.

It was like a full meal, and you sat around having a full meal. And I remember him standing there one day and going, look, look at the way this church is set up. This is set up really no different than the Catholic Church. There's a lectern there. We just call it a lectern. They call it an altar and everything. And it occurred to me as he's saying this. I'm going, you didn't copy the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church copied this. Because really, the Novosorto Mass is really just a Protestant, like a take on the Protestant Mass, the Protestant service. Yeah, I mean, like, it's highly Protestantized. Ataviani talked about it, who was the head of the Holy Office, right, in the Ataviani intervention. And this was, this was the, this wasn't, this wasn't. the pre-novas Ordo Mass. Like this wasn't even, it was highly highly Protestantized. I would strongly recommend

everyone pick up. If you don't have a physical copy, get one of Father, the late Father Anthony Chukata his book, work of human hands. Like this, this mass that you go to every Sunday is more Protestant than not. And

it hasn't led to it's led to Catholics becoming Protestants, leaving the Catholic faith and becoming Protestant far, far more than vice versa. You know, what's interesting is there's a Novosordo church I go to here, and the priest there is actually a former Protestant preacher. And the one of the Catholic podcasts I watch, I listen to all the time, is shameless popery with Joe Heschemeyer, and I believe he's a former Protestant too. And I think the thing that gives me some hope is that, you do see more people coming to the Catholic Church, but also you see more people coming to the Catholic Church and going, okay, where can I, where can I attend a traditional Latin Mass? Oh, yeah, absolutely. The traditional Latin Mass is growing by leaps and bounds, despite all the restrictions and tradition in custody and the attacks and everything else. Do you know what demographic right now is having more, is averaging more kids than any other, having more children than any other in the world?

The Amish. Traditional Latin Mass attendees. Oh, that's true. I mean, at my parish, you know, my wife has earned her mother's cross, but we have a small family, you know, because we're only the silver mother's cross. But yeah, it's not unusual for people to have 10, 12 more children, yeah. You do see a lot. I think there is a lot of hope there. I was Stormy and I, Stormy Waters for people who've never heard my show.

I should go listen to, I'm going to drop an episode with him on Sunday, which is probably going to get us in trouble two hours and 20 minutes of talking about the assassination of this United Healthcare demon. in the past all I have to say about that is that injustice to wage or oppression of the poor are sins that cry to heaven for vengeance and yeah that's all I had to say about that Stormy and I have been we've been talking about like the rosary and the past and he he goes back into when he studied a lot of Catholic mysticism of the past. So, and not nearly as much as I have. I mean, I mean, more than I have. I haven't

nearly as much. But, you know, one thing that I have taken to strongly is, is the rosary every single day. And I see a change in my life since, and I've been talking to him. And, you know, we, what we're starting to understand that what we want to start talking about more is the fact, that this war that's happening, it's an eternal war, spiritual warfare is eternal until Christ comes back, is you, we've been given weapons to use in this. And people have completely ignored them, people have completely overlooked them. That's right. Yeah. To Padre Pio, when they bring me my weapon. He would, you know, his rosary, right?

And like the scriptures itself say, you know, that the devil is like a roaring lion, probably about this world seeking this ruin of souls. And if you've ever been to a zoo and seen an African lion up close, they're pretty scary. The Eurasian lion was bigger. The lion that was mentioned in the scriptures that would, that would haunt the mountains of Anatolia and Greece and all these other places,

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Like, there's a, it just grabs you by the spine and like, and, like, and, you know, fortunately, whenever I've been in that sort of situation, I was with lots of people when we had firearms. But imagine, like, you know, you're by yourself and all you've got is. maybe a sling, right? It's scary. So, you know, it's, it's meant to be scary. It's, it's, it is scary. Like, like hell is forever. It's real. People go there, according to, you know, the tradition of the church and things like our Lady Fatima, lots of people go there, like snowstorm, like snow and a wizard. What, the children of Fatima said, that's, that's like what, you know,

soul's falling into hell is like. And, um, you know, if you, your pastor or your bishop or your other, authorities don't take it seriously. That doesn't mean you shouldn't. And I think that that's a very important thing. One of the reasons this show got launched is, you know, I want to give Catholic men in particular a chance to engage with the reality and deal with the world as it actually is so that they can actually save their souls and deal with their, deal with the problems of the world as it actually is.

Well, yeah. And, you know, here's the thing is I've been. I've been on a lot of sides of these things. I've been a libertarian. I am what I am now, which I don't even know how to even label what I am now. I'm, I'm almost going back to my libertarianism where I'm like, I'm neither left nor right. I think at this point, it's just like as far as politics go, I'm just a nationalist, and that's it. It's like there's a people that in the nations of people and, you know, we have to find our people, figure out who our people are. But, you know, I also have, I've been a Protestant, I've gone to a Protestant church,

but, you know, I was born Catholic and raised Catholic and fell away like so many and come back and repented. And I, one of the things that, one of the problems I've had watching a lot of, a lot of Catholics, even, is watching them being pulled away from the faith because of politics. And this can happen at any time in history. At any time in history, things can get really bad as far as the culture. And people tend to, and a lot of times a church would follow with it. I forget who said it this morning. I think it was Greg Hood said on Twitter.

somebody said that this is, Pope Francis is the worst, worst Pope ever. And Greg Hood's like, he's not even in like the bottom 10. And we have to remember that what's most important. Well, I mean,

in terms of teaching as, like as a person, maybe, like as Pope, qua Pope, I think he's probably the worst. If he even is, I'm the opinion that he's probably an anti-Pope because his election was illegitimate for multiple. reasons, but that's a separate discussion. And Great Hood is, I think, one of the most knowledgeable

people out there in the world right now. You know, certainly he's no Alexander VI in terms of his personal conduct, I don't think. But what I think is important is not just the like, oh, look at how bad things are or look at, you know, politically speaking, this is why historical knowledge is so important. You can look back at the pornography when um, you know, Peter Damien wrote his, uh, book of Gamora against like, you know, perverts and clerical robes. Like certain problems just eternal, you know, occur over and over again, right? Um, and rather than abandon ship because the captain is bad, we can't do anything about that. You know, our station in life is,

to do the best we can in the place that God's put us. And if that means, like, as a dad, you have to ignore, like, everything the Pope says and just be like, okay, well, we're just going to go to the old mass and say the Rosary. Like, that's what you can do, right? Well, yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say is politically, you know, there's a lot of us who are like, you know, what Thomas, what Thomas talks about, we need to go back to living historically. And by living historically, it means that you're, you're abandoning. this whole idea of progress, this whole idea of liberalism. And the same goes with the church. You just have to, you have to find, know the truth and live the truth.

And you can do that. And you can not only do that in the worst times of trouble, but you have to do that at the worst times of trouble. That is your, that is your duty. Your duty is not only to survive through, those times, but to thrive through those times and to teach others. And, you know, I think that's where I've failed is I've done a good job of talking to people politically about, you know, where we are and maybe what their thought process should be as far as politics goes, but I don't

think I've done as good a job when it comes to faith. Because I know there are a lot of good Protestants out there. I think Corey Mahler is, you know, like a perfect example of it. Someone who is, you know, who's a soldier against fighting against the same evil we're fighting against. But, you know, we believe as Catholics that we are in, we have the truth. And, you know, so does he and he's like, he's wrong and he thinks we're wrong. But nevertheless, and this is why I've actually, I've actually interviewed Mr. Malar. There'll be dropping an interview with him shortly, I guess. the important thing isn't right now on our present moment, right?

The satirological debates, the scriptural debate, right? Like all those arguments, they've been had a thousand times, right? Between the Catholics, the Lutherans, the Reform, the Eastern Orthodox. Like, those arguments are almost set in stone, right? Like, you believe what you're going to believe. what is more important, I think, at this particular time, I don't want to discount any of those things. But our mutual friends, Jason Mironchucks put it this way.

Like, you don't live in a civilization anymore. And I think the important thing for all of us to do is to reestablish a Christian civilization. And then once that's established in the baseline thing that was the reality in Europe, for, you know, to most of the last 2,000 years that this was Christendom from, you know, Vladivostok to Chicago, right? That, that, reestablishing that is far more important than, like, owning, like, a reform guy on his arguments about Solo Scriptura. I think those are wrong. But me saying, like, like, Nina, Nina, you're wrong is way less important than, like, How about we make sure that there's no dudes in the middle school girls locker room as a first step?

And then we'll move to whatever arguments we need to have about faith versus works and, you know, the epistle to James and what have you. And we have historic, you know, we have historic precedent for, you know, when those are, when those discussions don't bear any fruit. We have the historic precedent for separation, which can be political as well. So, yeah, that's not, I'm, I definitely am not wanting to fight a crusade against against Protestants or Orthodox or anyone. You know, Buck Johnson's a really good friend of mine, and we were hanging out in Texas a couple months ago, and we just, you know, we're like, this, this, the enemy is not us. The enemy is out there. And, you know, we really need to be arm in arms to fight against

this enemy. And then, you know, after that, we'll figure, you know, we can figure it out. But, I mean, we're the enemy right now, not only is attacking our body and attacking us politically, but it's attacking our spirit and our souls. And that's one thing that people just don't get. that if that's the one thing, you know, it's one of the reasons why, you know, I do appreciate the libertarians who are Catholics and, you know, who are, you know, are Christian. And employers, did you know, you can now reward you and your staff with up to 1,500 euro and gift cards annually completely tax-free and even better. You can spread it over five different occasions. Now's the perfect time to try Options Card. Options Card is Ireland's brand.

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anti-hyarchy, anti-truth. And most of them. Yeah, no gods, no masters, right? Like, yeah. And they're, and most of them are liberals. They, they're liberals in the sense that, They have no found, they believe that a political ideology, they believe that economics, they believe that private property rights, they believe that don't hurt people and don't take their stuff replaces God's kingdom. And it just doesn't. No. You know, in order to have like a libertarian society, you would need like an entire society of like Lou Rockwell's. Yeah. Right.

Like, like personally, very conservative family guys who have been married for years and have, like, whose biggest, like, the biggest thing is like he wants to build a good society for his grandkids and his great grandkids. Like that's, or like a Ron Paul, right? You know, I'm sure you've seen that, like, the Christmas photo of like Ron and Carol and like their huge family and all their grandkids and great grandkids. Like that's what you would need. it's like that's um where it's him and his lovely wife who they've been married i think over 50 years and they had a bunch of kids and all their kids had a bunch of kids and and all their kids kids kids had kids and so there's like babies and children and and grandchildren and like you know they all look alike they all look alike yeah you can tell like there's there's like you know an eight-year-old

kid who's got like that same impish grade as his grandpa just sitting there like smiling and like I'm with my grandpa and all my aunts and uncles and my cousins and it's cool. That's like you want to build a libertarian society, a Christian society. That's what you'd have to do. You'd have to make that normative. But, you know, for all that I no longer consider myself a libertarian, I still an unambasheded admirer of Dr. Paul and personally and like, you know, politically I can say he's a man of principle.

But you would need that to be the norm. And the trouble is, of course, that that's not the norm. Like Ron Paul is an outstanding human being, right? You know, he says like he's interested in the free market. Well, then why did he deliver all those babies for free? Oh, it wasn't free. I think he charged $4 or something like that. Right, like $4 or a dozen eggs, right?

like, you know, like this, well, he did that because he's a, because he's a good Christian man. That's why he did it. That's, that's why Ron Paul was able to make liberty had in his and workers, because he is personally an outstanding person and a good Christian who loves his neighbors. I was on my buddy Tommy Salmon show. I think it was actually dropping today.

and he's still at the Libertarian Institute, and he wanted me to come on because I got into it with a few libertarians on Twitter, and he's like, oh, why don't you come on and talk about where you're at and everything? And one of the things I told them was I said, look, if you ever got to a libertarian society, if they're ever, like, popped up this, like, pocket of libertarianism, you really need to understand that culturally it's going to look exactly like what I want. Like the society that I want, everybody's going to have a common language, everyone's going to have a common skin color, everyone's probably going to have a common religion, everyone's, it's going to be, it's going to be a monoculture.

And that's one thing that people can't under, people don't understand. I told them, I said, you just cannot. You know, and one of the things Corey Mueller said on a recent podcast, because people will be like, well, you know, when the church, when people come into the church, they're, they're the same. And, you know, they all, you know, this is something that, you know, Michael Jones talks about, which is, you know, I love the man, what he's done to expose our oldest. enemy is undeniable. But we're just not all the same. You know, what Mr. Mahler said was he said when you have a church, when you have a church in Europe, the church needs to be run by Europeans. He goes, but if you set up a church in like Namibia, that church needs to be run by Europeans. they're not

they're not going to be capable of the faith on their own yeah look up what Archbishop Lefebvre had to say and he was he was effectively

the Archbishop of all of French speaking West Africa and the Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers who were primarily responsible for evangelizing West Africa So everything good that's happened in Africa for the last 50 years in West Africa, French speaking West Africa, is either directly or indirectly, you know, the responsibility of one Archbishop Marcel Lefev. And, you know, it's been my experience with actual African Christians, you know, when you live in oil business areas, right, like you get Nigerians.

And they will be like, Jerome, you must understand. Demons or everywhere. Demons haunt Africa like mosquitoes haunt moose in summertime. Or deer. They are everywhere. They are like flies on horse poop. Demons everywhere. Ancester demons.

Local demons, family demons, tribe demons. They are everywhere and we cannot fight them ourselves. We need the white man and his Christianity to get rid of the demons. Conversation I've straight up had like like like sitting in Houston and talking to some Nigerian guys in the oil business. and demons everywhere. You must understand demons. I've talked to other Catholics who talk about someone like Bishop Sarah

and talk about how great he is and how, you know, just how based he is. And I'm like, that didn't happen in a vacuum. It's not like he discovered the Catholic faith and just studied on his own. And that's the way he, became. No,

Europeans, white Europeans went there, went to Africa, and taught, and demanded of, and said, this is the way we do things. You do not deviate in one direction or the other. And that's a, and that, because of, we're in this, this liberal order, this Nuremberg regime, that's unacceptable to them. You're not allowed to have truth. Truth is whatever they say it is from week to week. And all you have to do is that they're apparatchiks in the news will tell you what the truth is that week and what morality is that week, quote unquote, morality. Right, because Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, when they first ran for president, were anti-gay marriage.

But now, right, if you say, well, if you're anti-gay marriage, you're hope was. bigot. What, like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton? Yeah. Right. Like, and what's astonishing, right? And this is one of those things that just proves most people, you know, it's, it's downstream from power. The ridiculous Supreme Court decision that said like two dudes is the same as, as married people with, with children. Right. Um, oh, that'll never accept that. That's complete, like, your method is just completely. It's not. You know, where, where's the, where's the contramundum, you know, church saying, saying, you know, that he's willing to stand and say, this is ridiculous. Right.

Because, you know, if you don't have gay marriage, so called, right, you don't end up with transgenderism, you know, and you could draw a pretty, pretty fair line from contraception to abortion, where, you know, pornography to contraception to abortion to abortion. from thence to feminism and acceptance of homosexuality and homosexual homosexuals, sootomatic marriage, quote unquote, and from there to transgenderism. It's a pretty straight line, actually, if you think about it for more than a couple seconds. Humaniviti, unfortunately proved right on this point. And, you know, any libertarian social order, right, most 90% of libertarians, I'll be like, well, of course you, you get their free expression to publish, you know. Love is love.

You can love anyone you want. Right. The First Amendment, bro, you can't tell them they can't sell pornography that the pornographers should be in jail. Well, oh, really? This is just what you're talking about is, you know, what they call a fallacy, the slippery slope. And I explained it earlier.

I explained earlier why the slippery slope isn't a fallacy. because we're meant to our faith, our truth is based upon a rock, not built on sand, not a foundation built on sand, but built on a rock. And as soon as you start rolling that rock, as soon as you start saying, okay, well, we can go this way, well, we can do this. It all just flows from it. You're where formerly you stood for something, where people were, and this is another thing that most people don't get because of modernity, because of this post-Norhomberg order, is the average person, 99% of the people in the world wants stability. deep down inside, they know they want stability.

They know they want the truth. They know they just want that one thing that they can gravitate to that grounds them. They're not allowed to happen anymore. And everything that would possibly be that must be destroyed. Exactly right. And that thing that must be destroyed because it is a, because it doesn't move, right, then you have to destroy it. And I know that you've talked quite a bit about Spain and the Civil War in Spain and

what had happened previously. And I would strongly recommend to everybody, especially for, I think all Catholics should be familiar with the conflict in Spain because I think it's a microcosm of all our problems today. I really do. but in particular, you're reading of the great Catholic who, Warren Carroll, who founded Christendom College in Front Royal, Virginia. He wrote a wonderful book. Last Crusade.

Last Crusade, yeah. And you did a reading of that on your show that is just wonderful. Everyone should check that out. It's the most emotional thing I've ever done. Oh, dude, I can't even talk about this each of Elka, sorry, without crying. Right there, you just, just heard me start to tear up because it just moves me every time. But when you understand that the post-Fatican-Duty church, in Spain, the church was the rock that stood against the tide of red Bolshevism, And the church is what allowed those, those great heroes of the Alcazar and elsewhere to, to plant their feet firmly and resist.

And therefore, that church was broken. And now you see in Spain, you know, they have no children. No one goes to mass anymore. And the Spain that brought the gospel to the far ends of the earth, you know, to the Philippines, to Japan, to, you know, literally all the way around the world to South America, to everywhere, you know, Spain and Portugal, right? Those two anti-liberal regimes of Salazar and of Franco, they were undermined from from within by the post, you know, revolution church because the church had bought into the revolution. and that both destroyed the nation and destroyed the church in Spain and in Portugal because the church refused to just stand and say no. And it was because the church stood and said no that unfortunately, you know, the United States of America is revolutionary nation.

You know, the CIA had a great deal to do with the Carnation Revolution and the overthrow of Franco and the installation of so-called democracy. where, you know, 50 years on, they're digging up dead men who died as heroes and disintering their bodies because everything is good must be torn down because it's illiberal. Yeah, the, it reminds me that, you know, that this was all a reaction to communism, spreading Marxism, and we know where that comes from. And then you have someone today, like you have people who say, oh, well, there's cultural Marxism. They gave up on the economics. They gave up on the, which they really haven't. And they gave up on the political communism and just mid-cultural. I would say they didn't give up on either.

But the cultural is more obvious. And in the 20th century, the one example, the one example. we have of the fight against that and the destruction of it is in Spain. And I don't think they could have done it without the help of Germany and Italy who, you know, supplied arms, supplied soldiers, supplied planes. But they won. And one of the reasons, probably the biggest reason they won is because of their Catholicism. Franco went to mass every day. He, One thing I know about someone who goes to Mass every day is somebody who does not hold themselves in the highest regard. They see themselves as a sinner.

They see themselves as somebody who needs saving. They see themselves as somebody who is imperfect. And then you look today and you see that this is taken over again and that the ideology has spread and it's, jumped into conservatism, libertarianism, basically everything. And the one way to fight it, one way we know in the past to fight it is Catholicism and is people's Catholic faith. And then you see somebody like who Protestant churches go to like James Lindsay, who's just a liberal and hates anyone. He hates God. He hates the Lord. He hates anyone. Yeah. Yeah. And, and. Leon DeGrelle, a noted faithful Catholic, his whole life, right?

Like, he saw what was up. You can read his writing, and he'll tell you why they fought. And it's because he was a Catholic. Fundamentally, the reason Leon DeGrile, you know, earned the Knights Cross multiple times on the Eastern Front was because he was a Catholic. And everything, everything. Thomas posted a picture of him on, you know, on the Eastern Front receiving the host that was quite emotional. But your people turn, you know, another thing that people need to realize is you can't turn to people who hate you.

There are some people out there, and I mentioned James Lindsay a little while ago, who can tell you what's going on. but their answer to it, the way they want to fight it is by using liberalism. And if you mention Conthalicism to him, he gets high. Oh, he loses his mind. And he has said somebody, somebody, I have a screenshot of the tweets somewhere. Somebody had said, so, you know, we need Trad Cath in the West. And he said, if it comes to that, I would rather the left would win.

Yes, because, right, like, I don't know what his problem is growing up. Like, he got told, like, he was a naughty boy for, he grew up in Tennessee, from what I understand. You would expect better. Yeah. You would. You would. But he's a very strange man.

And that's, again, all of these people's problem is fundamentally that the church was illiberal and that that that church had to be destroyed and a church that is illiberal like john henry knewman had this 130 years ago really can be liberal or you can be christian but you can't be both right a church that is illiberal is not worth because then you're going to change dogmas change well what what uses in the dogma then if it does if it does if it if it if it can change the whole point of dogmas is that they don't change. It's not the 10 suggestions, right? Right. You know, the 10 strongly wording suggestions that may or may not change, depending on the circumstances and who is oppressing whom and who is saying them. And if they're intersectionally higher up on the, you know, like, no, this is the 10 commandments. It's the law of God. Those are the things that we have to worry about.

and it's not necessarily that, you know, God wants to oppress us or take away our funsies or, you know, God's going to reach down and like, you know, take away all your fun by, by, you know, putting out your joint and making sure that the only funzies you're having with your pants off is like in marriage with the lights off. it's that when you do certain things you damage yourself and they're bad and smoking weed is like smacking yourself in the face with a hammer like you can do it it's just a dumb idea like if you want to make yourself dumber go ahead I guess

but it's not good for you and you shouldn't do it One thing that I've been trying to, if there is one thing in the past few months that I've been trying to get through to people, because people have this idea, hippie Jesus, is that, you know, hippie Jesus told us that, you know, we're supposed to love our enemies. And I love to break people's brains by telling them that he said to love our enemies. enemies, he didn't say to love his enemies. Nowhere. As a matter of fact, it's committed to hate them with a perfect hatred. Yes. Yes.

And in many places, you are commanded to do much more than that. But, you know, the church is, the church has fallen to the spirit of the age. And the spirit of this age is liberalism, is It's Satan.

It's non-Serbian. Well, I mean, I don't think we can do much better than that. Right. I want to thank you very much for being on fundamental principle. Could you tell people where you can be found and various ways to support you and whatever projects you might have going on? Sure. Yeah. The Pekignan show, all podcatchers.

Pete Substack.com. you can go right to the podcast on a podcast right at pq.org. The Old Glory Club. It's a bunch of heritage Americans got together and form a fraternity and just coming together to support each other and to raise each other up. And, you know, I would also say I have a new, we have a new project that Jerome here is, invited to and will be on soon, call The Inquisition with Thomas 777, Stormy Waters, Astrol from Astrol Flight Projection, and it's just a panel show where we talk about important. Important subjects like this. So watch out for that. I always put it on my podcast feed, and that's been getting a lot of great feedback lately as conversations that people, should be having but aren't.

Yeah, I believe that was going to record here pretty soon, so please keep an eye out for that. And, you know, ladies and gentlemen, mostly gentlemen, the goal of this project is to give you the facts. Our Lord said, I am the way of the truth in life, and those are all, capital W, capital T, capital L. And all constituent truths are somehow

in his providence, part of his plan. And people that lie to you about really important stuff, whether they be in the religious realm, like liberalism, liberal religion, like dogmas don't matter and the faith of your children are not mattering. They can just be saved by being good people. That's Pelagianism. It's a heresy that's, you know, thousands of years old. That's not true.

As a dad, as a man, it's your job. to go out there and fight for the truth. And there's a lot of truths out there that, unfortunately, that are really, really important right now, that most people aren't willing to talk about. And that's the goal of this project, is to talk about those things. And so I want to thank Mr. Kenone is here for his time

and for his good work fighting for the truth. So thank you, Pete. and we'll be back next time. Fundamental Principle, signing out. Thank you.