The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on Geopolitics and Empire w/ Hrvoje Morić

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:53 I do a weekly analysis of the news. You can donate, purchase a console. If you want to chat with me about whatever you like, do check how all of my Awesome. Affiliates and leave a podcast review if you haven't already. Joining us for the first time on geopolitics and empire is Pete Quignognez of the Pete Quignoias show. You'll find them over at Pete Quinonez.com. The link is in the description. Welcome to the podcast, Pete.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. It's been a while. It's been quite a while. I think you were on my old TNT radio show a few times, but it's your first time. on my podcast, Geopolitics and Empire, and maybe for people who are not aware of you, you know, whatever you want to tell us about yourself and, and your show and the work that you're doing. Sure. I host a Pekignano show. I've been going eight years now. It's my main thing is the
Starting point is 00:02:47 podcast. I have the Substack, which you can find at petesubstack.com. All the episodes go up there to subscribers early and ad free. Shows on all podcatchers. I try to do as many private things. on sub sack as I can, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. I'm also a founding member of the old glory club, which is a fraternity that has come into existence in the last few years to talk about ways to push forward with the idea of America and what America was, what America should be what it was at one time, what we lost and what we're trying to get back. And yeah, that's about it. We just, I, I, work. This is what I do false time and I'm constantly working. I'm in that same boat.
Starting point is 00:03:38 We're all in this together. Pete, I'm doing this full time for now for as long as people will allow me to. And before getting to America, it's funny. I was looking at your, listening to some of your podcasts today. You recently read through Edward Lutwak's Kudaita. He was a recent guest of mine on the podcast. And I notice a lot of your style is, you know, you do interviews, but you also do a lot, you read through a lot of books. If you know, just tell us a bit about this, you know, your style of podcasting. Well, yeah, I talk a lot about philosophy. I talk a lot about politics. I talk a lot about history. I started reading books, like full books over multi-episodes a few years ago. And I did it. One of the reasons I did it was I didn't have a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:04:30 to read books anymore. So it's like, hey, I get a chance to read this. But more than anything, it was just to get the ideas out there of books that people don't, don't read. And I guess, you know, I read stuff like State Revolution by Lenin, Ted Kaczynski's manifesto. But really, what set me down the path of doing it constantly was reading a book by a gentleman named Harold Saltzman called Race Warren High School. And it talks about how, what busing did to one specific New York City high school in the 1960s and how it went from a school where people were thriving and getting ready for college to a school where teachers were being raped, people were ODing, kids were ODing in the hallways, and teachers were being set on fire. And when I read through that with numerous guests, that pretty much solidified that I'm always going to. to be reading something on my show and right now i'm 30 episodes into reading 200 years together by
Starting point is 00:05:37 dr by alexander solzhenyson with dr matthew raphael johnson and we aren't one third of the way through the book yet so um this is going to turn into well over a hundred episodes and uh we don't it's probably going to be through the rest of the year so yeah i i like to take on um huge tasks and and and see them through. It's like a new form of doing audio books. And that's so cool with, you know, with this space. There's, there's, you know, so many ways to invent new ways to do things. And, you know, America, I guess. You mentioned the old glory club. Was it? And something I often think about. What, you know, what have we lost? What's your sort of pulse on where we're at with America today?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Well, we've lost the idea that we were once a people. America right now is just basically an open-air strip mall, where it's, we're basically an economic zone. We're a place where people come to make money, send money back to wherever they came from, and they don't come here to be Americans. They don't come here like my great-grandfather did, who came from Poland and, you know, renounce. to citizenship and had to renounce his allegiances to his home country and then went to work in the coal mines in western Pennsylvania and raised his family there and is buried there and everyone, all of his kids are buried there.
Starting point is 00:07:15 That kind of thing that's not America anymore. There are parts of America where that still exists. Still exists where I've chosen to live. but the the idea that we're a people that this was this country was founded by a certain
Starting point is 00:07:35 amount of by a certain group of people and that they invited other people in and grafted them in with the on the with the notion that they were going to become like them that they were going to share their culture their high culture well that that just disappeared 100 years ago you can even go back 125 years, and that's been, that's pretty much been gone. And you see what it's
Starting point is 00:08:04 wrought. You see how this country now, like I said, is all about economics. And we barely even manufacture anything anymore. So basically, we, we're all about financialization. We're about usury. We're about investing in markets. We're about what do we make? You know, we sent that overseas and we allow somebody else to make our prescription medication, the chips for our weapons, the, you know, the very things that we need to survive and to protect ourselves are now controlled by a foreign power. And that's something that Lutwok talks about in Kudaita. If you're a country who is not making your own weapons, you are, and you're getting them from someone else,
Starting point is 00:08:53 you're a vassal state to whoever you're getting them from. Now, we do still make our own weapons here, but a lot of the chips and a lot of the components come from other places. So are we like places like, you know, Ukraine, which basically relies completely on Western nations for their defense. And hence, basically, we can tell that now we can dictate what their politics is. well, I mean, there are so many foreign interests that are that are embedded into the United States because of, you know, what we've allowed to happen and what we've given up that, like I said, we are just this commercial zone now. We are not a country anymore. There are pockets of the country that still have that spirit. But for the most part, people don't talk about this as if it's a nation, as if it's a polis anymore. It's just a place to come and make. money. You know, I think your diagnosis, it's, it's accurate. And it's, I'm, maybe I've heard
Starting point is 00:10:00 something like this before, but yeah, it's a new way of looking at it. And it's so true, you know, when you say people just go that or make money and leave. And I was just thinking about myself. And my parents came in the 80s from Croatia. And they've gone back now. They've got nothing in the U.S. They've gone back to Croatia. I, just by chance and circumstance, I, uh, just by chance and circumstance, left for Mexico. And that's just the way, you know, life takes you. And yeah, there's a lot of people, you know, particularly Croats and, you know, those types of ethnic groups. Once they've hit retirement age, they, they leave often, you know, if they're first generation immigrants. And just on the economy, you know, since you brought that up, that's, I guess what you mentioned is
Starting point is 00:10:46 what America has going for it now. But, you know, I'm wondering how much. even that has has something going for it because you get the tariffs. I talk to people in the U.S. who are on the ground or saying it's difficult to find employment. The cost of living is rising globally. How do you assess the economic strength of the U.S.? Well, unless we start making our own things again, not good. Because right now, the success of the United States basically is contingent. upon how strong the dollar and how strong Wall Street is and how strong and how the
Starting point is 00:11:28 treasury operates, how the Federal Reserve operates. Like I said, we are financialized. I mean, I'm not saying that I don't own stocks. Sure, of course. Why wouldn't I? And I know people who feel like I do. They're like, this is a financialized. Usory is terrible.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I know hedge fund managers who feel that way. They want the country to go back to the way it was. well, why did they pick what they do? So they could make a whole lot of money so that they're not affected in the future by what could potentially happen. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest.
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Starting point is 00:13:37 so that they'll always have something of wealth. But we have to basically decide that we're going to make things here again. And I think a lot of that starts locally. I live in a small town. And there's a lot of land around here. There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to attract. And there are a lot of people around here who don't have jobs. There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to attract factories to come here,
Starting point is 00:14:07 companies to come here. And, you know, but as far as the country goes, I don't know if it's salvageable. It's way too big. There's too many people. there's so many people here who don't belong here who are here illegally or if they're not here illegally they're just here for like we said just here to make money and then they're going to send this someplace else or leave eventually you know i don't know if it's sustainable as a large polity it's i think you know we're headed towards some kind of balkanization de facto de facto or otherwise
Starting point is 00:14:43 and you know i think that's the only way we get through this i do not see mass deportations happening. I do not see crime and certain groups that are overwhelmingly over over represented in violent crime being on a mass scale, being either controlled or jailed. As a matter of fact, most of them get out of jail. They, you know, a narco tyranny takes over and the people in charge are like, well, it's better, they're better, it's better off on the street. They can they can punish the people who are doing well. And then we just have to continue having this whole cycle of people that we can import in
Starting point is 00:15:29 because, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the spirit of the founding stock are, or just further, you know, pushed further and further out. So, you know, I think that we have to take a more local approach, but we also have to start getting back. to building with our hands and building things with our hands, building things locally and really taking a building up and strengthening our local areas. And I honestly believe that the stronger local area is the weaker big cities, which are the enemy of basically our enemy, they become. We can, by having stronger local areas and more rural areas,
Starting point is 00:16:18 in more rural areas, the cities lose power because we don't have to rely upon them for anything. We can cut their food supply off if we want. I mean, that's what my area I live in. It probably supplies eggs and milk and everything to most of the country. We could cut people. If we were smart, we could just cut people off. We could, you know, I also have a feeling that we're headed towards localized pockets of violence, but that's another story.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Well, anyway, maybe we can get to that, but just on the, and I want to ask you more about the Balkanization, but just on the tariff thing, like, I'm trying to make sense. I listen to smart people who have differing opinions, and I'm just waiting for the shoe to drop because it's, you know, Trump says one thing, then he says another, and then China, this and that, and it's not clear. I feel like it's this fog now, and I have no idea what is going on until something concrete happens, and like kind of like you allude to, I just find it, it would be great to build, right? As you say, factories, but can we do it? I don't know. And then this, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:25 you mentioned folks in the U.S. illegally who make up a lot of, you know, the workforce, but now we've got robotics coming in. You know, there's a danger of AI software robots, drones going to replace, you know, we've all seen these videos of at farms, they got drones watering, you know, agriculture, and stuff like this. So you know, any further thought on tariffs, whether we can actually bring, bring back, that can induce investment to come back and rebuild plants and thoughts on robotics, you know, replacing humans.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I'll go with robotics first. I mean, well, you have to ask yourself if robotics are going to take all the jobs, why are we importing so many people? Is it, if everybody's looking towards AI, then we're just importing people from different cultures to punish the, you know, the founding stock that are here. The, will they, will that happen? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I don't know how on grand the scale that's going to happen or how fast that's going to happen. I mean, I use AI for research. I mean, that's pretty much what I use it for. I know it can be used for code. I know that one of the big things that people are talking about is using it for coding. Then there is robotics. But I don't know. There are certain things.
Starting point is 00:18:53 There are certain problem-solving skills that only a human can really can really deal with. And I think when it comes to manufacturing, a lot of that is going to still have to be human. I don't know. You know, I'm, well, like I said, I tend to think of things on a smaller scale because I don't see the future being, you know, being. being national. I see the future being local. What was the other one you mentioned? No, it was pretty much it. I know when I asked you about the Balkanization, do you think that's going to be something that would happen just culturally or actually
Starting point is 00:19:32 politically, like where we have a state secede and they're no longer part of the union? And this is interesting because I learned recently in Mexico, there are states like Nuevo Leone who want to succeed from the Mexican federal republic you have that in the US there's talk now of Canada Alberta there's also you know that plan of North American Union and integration Greenland stuff the Panama stuff so you know what do you mean when you talk about Balkanization and you know civil wars well you've got the US wanting to do air strikes you know basically take the movie Cicario with Benicio del Toro and make it nonfiction.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Great movie. I enjoyed the film. Honestly, it was very well made. And I think that there was a sequel I think I saw as what was also pretty good. It was good too. They saw that though. That was good too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But I mean, just all of these things, this is a cauldron. It can create so much chaos with what's, you know, the fire that's already lit in Mexico in the US. And so what, what, you know, would you see when it comes to volcanization? Well, I mean, I just think it's inevitable. I think we're just going to have to deal with the fact that we're going to have to split, that it's going to get to the point where you either split or you have violence. And even if you split, you may have violence.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You know, there's a good chance you're going to have violence. At this point, I don't think there's any, there's escaping violence. I don't think it's going to be this mass of violence all over the country. But I think it's going to be pockets and it's probably going to be rural versus urban. But the Balkanization, I think that it's already started. I know a lot of people who have decided to move to certain areas and to gather in certain areas.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Some of them did it organically. They didn't even realize that there were other people who had been moving to certain areas just to get away from certain, you know, to get away from certain situations that they have no control over. and you know I think that it's going to be cultural I think it's going to be it's going to be cultural and racial and it just seems like there's going to be that that that is it's natural with what's happened
Starting point is 00:21:53 you know you've had an open war on white people preached for at least 10 years now it's been longer than that but I mean they've openly said it talked about it on the on the nightly on the news programs on the Sunday morning programs, you know, that white people need to be, need to be handled. And I think that there's only a matter of time. I don't think all white people are going to be like, oh, I'm taking this seriously. But I think enough will take it seriously that they'll be like, okay, we, we need to collectivize. We need to collectivize for our own protection. And yeah, I just don't, I don't know how that's avoided at this point. the Trump getting elected,
Starting point is 00:22:42 I was hoping that there were some things that he would do a little more about tearing down the administrative state and maybe he still will, but I'm not, I'm not hanging my hat on it. I'm hoping that there are some things that Powell's been doing at the Fed, that Besson is doing at the Treasury, that Jamie Diamond has been. I know that they're all working together and they're trying to basically, and they're trying to basically, and, they've done a really good job of destroying Europe. I mean, when you look at the Euro, what, what just what, just what, you know, private equity Powell has done at the Fed, getting LIBOR, you know, dismantled so that London doesn't control our interest, Europe doesn't control our interest rates anymore. And, you know, now Chicago, so far, controls our interest rates. I mean, literally you would, you would, you would rent.
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Starting point is 00:25:27 You've also seen, look at what, look at the price of the euro to the dollar. Look at the British pound to the dollar. When I was growing up, the British pound, it seemed like was pegged at two. dollars to two two dollars uh two of our dollars to the british pound it's down to a buck in a quarter now a buck 20 i mean this is basically pal declaring war on on europe and europe is panicking buying i mean look look at how much they don't have gold they can't meet gold demands gold has all flooded into new york city which is why you see gold up at near $3,500 an ounce right now.
Starting point is 00:26:05 So there are things that I think that I was hoping that Trump would do that could help. Just give us some breathing room. Give us four years so that we could figure out a plan going forward. Because the one thing that I know Trump is not going to do and the people around him are not going to do is destroy the left. and if they don't destroy the left, the left is going to get power again at some point. And when they get power,
Starting point is 00:26:38 they are going to be mad. And it is going to be, like my Time magazine back there, which signifies the beginning of the Spanish Civil War, they are going to be out for blood. And I do not, and I mean that literally, they are going to look to spill blood
Starting point is 00:26:58 when they get power back. So when I look at everything Trump's doing, I have two things in my mind. One, do enough so that we can make more money, acquire more property in the next four years, make it easy for us so that we can set something up for the future. And otherwise, I don't think we're going to have mass deportations. I don't think we're, I think that we're stuck with this and we're going to have to make it work. The problem is, is we're not going to be able to make it work on a grand scale because the left will get power again. And when the left gets power again, they are going to seek to destroy what's left of white America. I had on recently Pastor Chuck Baldwin, who mentioned this idea of, he's great.
Starting point is 00:27:51 He's great. I've had him on the show. He's a good man. Yeah, yeah, he's, he's cool. And he, um, put the, thought out that vance jd vance might take the helm in twenty twenty eight uh today i saw kazio cortez um putting out all these videos going to these rallies and people saying that's a sign she might run uh meanwhile you know pete heggseth comes out today yesterday talking about how we're done with the woke stuff at the department of defense and so you don't think and i'd agree with you that you know things haven't been dealt with They're still there, you know, if you peel, peel back the surface level.
Starting point is 00:28:34 So, you know, you don't think we've reached peak wokeism? You think all that stuff is still there? I mean, even if we do get rid of wokeism in the next four years or if JD Vance is in for another eight years. One thing that I know about human beings and especially about, you know, Anglos and North American, you know, Northern Europeans. if they get a good four years where there's a where there's a lot of prosperity, they have a habit of voting in the wrong direction. I mean, look at Sweden. Sweden was up until, what, 1952.
Starting point is 00:29:16 They had a purely free market or one of the richest countries in the world. And then they decided, well, you know, we need and we have an ethno state. and we have people here who don't have as, we have a class that doesn't have as much as everyone else. Well, we need a gigantic welfare state now. And what has that done to them? I mean, it just, they, they did pretty good for a while, but eventually that's going to come crashing down upon itself.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And the main reason it came crashing down upon itself is because they got flooded with immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. I mean, when you have a country of what, 9 million people and you get a million people who are antithetical to your way of life. Well, then the women, Swedish women, in the span of, you know, five years, redefine what rape is. So I don't trust the average voter to be like, oh, so we've had four great years of this. And if there's no, if there's no obvious person who's going to carry it on but is going to take it further,
Starting point is 00:30:38 it's just a matter of time before the regime that we've had in power for the last 100, hundred and 125 years gets back into power. Woke means nothing to me. Woke is just one of the costumes they wear. They are anti-civilizational. They want to destroy civilization. They want to rule the ashes. They have no problem ruling the ashes of civilization.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Why would I trust them? Why would I trust anyone other than myself and trust people that I know that I have a history of being able to rely upon? Never met Donald Trump. Never met J.D. Vance. Never met RFK. Never met Pete Hags. Don't know what they actually believe. I saw in a signal chat.
Starting point is 00:31:28 or like celebrating, dropping an apartment building full of people just to get one guy who they didn't get. And they're all supposed to be Christians? Okay, well, I'm sorry. I don't trust you. You're not acting very Christian. As a matter of fact, Islam that you're constantly complaining about seems to be a little more civilized than that.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I mean, I've seen Israel drop apartment buildings in Lebanon just so they could find, they could get one person and they killed numerous people. And then when Iran retaliated and sent bombs into Israel, sent rockets into Israel
Starting point is 00:32:18 that landed, where did they land? And military targets. They didn't bomb civilians. Even though Unit 8200 of the Massad is right in the middle of a residential neighborhood in Tel Aviv. You realize that that Masad uses a Tel Aviv residential neighborhood as human shields, right? Oh, I thought only Muslims did that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:50 No, I don't trust these people. I don't trust them to bring us out of anything. These are not elites. These are not historic elites. These people don't know what nobles oblige is. So why would I trust them? Why would I think that it is in there? They would think it would be in our best interest to destroy our enemy.
Starting point is 00:33:15 They haven't been destroying our enemy. Our enemy is not outside the border. The more crucial enemy is inside the border right now. that's why the founders talked about enemies foreign and domestic. The domestic enemies are much more dangerous than any foreign enemy right now. And they're not doing anything to destroy them. As a matter of fact, they're letting judges stop things that they want to do. Judges that weren't even born in the United States,
Starting point is 00:33:47 which is, I think I read the DC appointed judges, the DC judges, the DC judges, Circuit court judges, 60% weren't born in the United States. I mean, that says something about our government, but it also says something about them. When my ancestors came here, I guarantee you, if they would have been offered a judgeship, they'd have been like, no, why would I? I'm not qualified to do that. I have no ties to you, people. I have no, I'm here to become one of you.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm not one of you yet. Why are you going to let me stand in judgment of you? So that tells you that these 60% of judges are evil people who just want to tell other people what to do and to rule over other people. How are we not headed towards violence? And I'm not calling for it. I will never fire the first shot. I will never be the one. I don't believe it's worth it.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't believe it would do anything. I think all it would do would get people killed. They don't think that way. They're going to fire the first shot. they're going to be the they're going to drop the first bomb from the from the drone and you know you mentioned sweden and i just had this thought of this i want to get just your further definition when it comes to the you know what this force that we're discussing but you know i folk i know folks in sweden you hear about as you mentioned migrants and the thing the crazy stuff that goes on there the stabbing is rapes and some of the
Starting point is 00:35:22 folks i know they're programmed by this liberal mind and i'm reading in the papers like all this crazy stuff is going on and they live in Sweden and they're like oh we don't see any of that and then i had on uh jacob nortongard who's just a Swedish great Swedish researcher on globalism and you know he's saying yeah we just had these attacks and and so it's kind of like well which one is it you know and it's the same thing you hear in in Mexico it would be like me in Mexico saying oh everything's fine you know um it's all right it's like no i mean there's like cartels chopping off heads dissolving bodies and NASA, you go to the vacation on the Oaxaca, you get, the nine people got dismembered, and they say it was the local municipal police, you know, kidnapping them.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And so it's like, yeah, Mexico's a great place, but I'm not going to have a Stockholm syndrome and say, this is not happening. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's insane. And how would you just further describe this, this dark force? Because, you know, the left, I, I tend to think it's more now this like liberal globalism. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is. is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area
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Starting point is 00:37:01 It's all a total inversion, anti-human, you know, the type of economy they want, it's a death economy. Would you sort of agree with that? You know, what would you also call them liberal, globalists? I mean, what would you call them? Well, if you want globalism, if you want everybody to be the same thing, you have to stop people from living historically, right? people who want to live, who want to talk about their ancestors, who want to worship, who not want to worship, but want to honor their ancestors and live as they lived. This is, that's their enemy.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That's what they've been destroying for the last hundred years since World War II. That's what World War II was all about. It was to destroy historic nations of Europe that live that way. Because you're not going to have globalism. you're not going to have liberalism, another good book. A good book on liberalism is Rizard Lagutko's The Demon in Democracy, where he talks about how liberalism and communism are just kissing cousins. Liberalism and Marxism are just kissing cousins because it's like you're constantly
Starting point is 00:38:15 working towards this perfection that you never achieve. So instead of sitting back and letting people decide what's best for them and how best they can live historically, what you're doing is you're socially engineering their environment so that their goals, your goals. Your needs are their needs. what's important to you is what you want to make important to them. So if wealth, if somebody isn't interested in wealth, well, if somebody isn't interested in higher education, well, we got to push them towards higher education. If somebody isn't interested in, I don't know, being incredibly literate, I mean, you could just read people like, um,
Starting point is 00:39:15 the early propagandist, the Walter Lipman's, and, oh, God, I can't remember his name now. It's the one who wrote propaganda. Bernays, right? Bernays, yeah. Well, what do they say? Oh, yeah, we need a literate society. We need them just literate enough so that we can propagandize them so that we can tell them what's a belief. If you, if that's the, if you're raising up a people who are completely deracinated from where they came from,
Starting point is 00:39:45 where their family came from, who they are. If you have a family that's lived on the same, you know, plot of land for a couple hundred years and there's a family cemetery there, and you're going to do your, you know, those people are a danger to you because they don't need you. And they're not buying into your globalist, your globalist vision. So what do you do? Do you basically get into the schools and teach their kids that what's really important is that you move closer to the city? you want to live in a really good zip code.
Starting point is 00:40:16 So when it comes time and your parents die, instead of living on that land and passing it to your kids, sell the land. You're going to make a fortune. It's paid off 100 years ago. And if somebody pays you, you know, a couple, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:31 $10 extra thousand dollars to remove the cemetery stones, who cares about your history? That's what these people are about. They're about destroying who you are. it's not like economics it's not about politics it's about destroying who you are where you come from who your family was who your descendants was where you who you i mean literally who you are the essence of your being they've been destroying that for a hundred years over a hundred years and that is what the goal is that is what that is why you put a million
Starting point is 00:41:13 savages in Sweden. So they forget who they are. So they change their culture. So they change their beliefs. And you tell them if you don't take these people, you're evil. You know, there's something wrong with you. You can't be a part of this global, you know, this club that we're in. And, you know, sure, where I live, if there's a shooting around here, there was a shooting,
Starting point is 00:41:40 I think, like a month ago or something like that. It was downtown. And when I say downtown, I'm talking about a town of 2400 people. So it was downtown. Everyone was talking about it. I hadn't been a shooting in over two years. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area,
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Starting point is 00:43:34 I don't see what happens in Camden, New Jersey. I don't see, you know, people stepping over here. stepping in human feces in San Francisco. But I know how that affects the country. I know how that affects everything that we do. I know how eventually everyone's going to have an attitude of despair. I mean, I think most of the most of what we see on like social media and everything now is just demoralization. That's why we see so much negative stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:10 They just want us to be demoralized. I mean, sure, I look at it and everything, and I try not to deal with it, but it's my job. My job is to tell people exactly what's wrong and why, you know, if you're in a very small town, you need to be careful who you hire as a librarian because you don't know what books are going to end up in your library. That happened here. you don't know who you're hiring at City Hall because when you go to get a permit to meet at the city park and the person there is telling and you're going to have like a prayer, you're going to have a bunch of churches come together and you're going to have like a prayer service.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You have somebody at City Hall that was just hired a transplant from the north who is like, well, you can't do that. There's a separation of church and state. And you're like, fuck you, we can't do that. We're going to do it anyway. I mean, that's what's happening. That's what these people want to control you and want to engineer everything out of you that means anything. And that's what the last 100 years.
Starting point is 00:45:24 That's what has happened since World War II. Even before then, but certainly since World War II. Because why would you want to have strong families? Why would you want to have strong churches? everybody might become a Nazi. So we need to, you know, there was a book that was put out called the authoritarian personality.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And what they said in that book was, well, if we want to keep people from becoming Nazis again, we have to destroy the family. We have to destroy the churches. We have to, we have to introduce the concept of eros to people, which is just basically porn and sensuality.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I mean, that's what they've been doing. And people would say, oh, well, that was just a book and they wrote it. Everything in there came true, right? I mean, it was literally one of the biggest committees in the country commissioned that book and everything in that book they did. That's the war. The war isn't economics. The war isn't, you know, trade.
Starting point is 00:46:29 The war is who we are as a people. If we know who we are as a people and we embrace that, economics will fall into place, trade will fall into place. But if we're going to be destroyed, if who we are is going to be destroyed, those things are meaningless. They literally don't mean anything if you don't know who you are. For me, a lot of what you're describing is, again, I think what they're trying to do, it's this process of globalization and moving from the smaller state, structure, nation state,
Starting point is 00:47:02 to this, you know, Babylonian Tower of Babylonian. 2.0 multicultural world government. And in order to do that, they've got to mix us up like in a blender to create this, you know, globalized, because if you have a political world system and economic, you need also one single culture and religion. I talk about that a lot on the podcast. But yeah, I think that's what's going on. You know, even here in Mexico, migrants pass through Mexico.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And I've witnessed, you know, and these are migrants that speak Spanish, they're Latinos, you Guatemala down south, and even Mexicans are not happy with Latino, you know, migrants hanging around and, you know, some are harmless. I've had some of them threatened to kill my father-in-law on the streets of Guadalajara. You know, we were loading stuff into a car and his young, you know, 30-something year old, he's living on a, I don't know what, and his girlfriend or something pushing their carts. and he tells in front of me and my father-in-law, what if I just kill you, old man, and take your stuff?
Starting point is 00:48:10 I look at him, and he slowly goes away, and it's just kind of like, you know, it's just a common thing with whatever country you live in to have basic law in order. And I wanted to go back to the Trump administration. As you mentioned, there's obviously disappointment. You have all the things that were said during the campaign. Like they're going to deconstruct agencies and things like this.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And, you know, I read the headline last week, Cash Patel, you know, FBI. Or we're going to rebuild trust in the FBI. I'm like, what, you know, Christy Noah was South Dakota, the head of DHS, the same DHS that's banned me from PayPal. And she's like, don't delay. Get your real ID. And like, you know, all of the, you know, we had one rhetoric during the campaign. And then once these people are coming into power, it's like, you know, I'm like, you know, RFK, right? He's got the MMR vaccine thing. You know, he's there, I think I saw a video clip of him saying he'd never inject his kids with MMR vaccine. And now he's like saying, oh, that's the way to go. What's going on? And, you know, thoughts on that, but also the technocratic element because you've got, you know, I fear a bit of this technocracy leading to dystopia. So what are your thoughts on that, Elon Musk and, and other such stuff?
Starting point is 00:49:31 I mean, it's all just a path to the same place. It's all just a path to people who are just robots, people who are just economic units, people who are just walking annuities for banks, for lending institutions. Really, the best way you fight this, and a lot of people don't want to hear this, especially people of conservative and libertarian bent is, the best way to fight this is to get your friends in charge. To get people that you, you know, I've always said, you know, it's like, I mean, if libertarians want a libertarian world,
Starting point is 00:50:17 then they should get elected and just by Fiat, declare, start tearing things apart and tearing it down and threaten people to kill you. Because that's what they'll try and do. They'll try and kill you. But, I mean, at this point, you're, when you look at those things, when you look at like chips in the head, things like that, I'd have a tendency to believe that those are just distractions away from the other, the very real things that they're doing, which is, you know, destroying the money supply, running debt up to, running debt, importing, you know, infinity Indians into the country, importing, importing, inflicting, infinity Indians into the country, importing, importing, Central Americans and South Americans into the country. And letting criminals run loose so that they can, you know, if you, now this isn't every, this isn't my area, but, you know, if a criminal breaks into your house or if it comes onto
Starting point is 00:51:21 your property and you shoot them, you know, you go to jail. You're not allowed to, you know, anarcho, San Francisco's anarcho tyranny where you allow the worst elements of society like they did in San Francisco where if you stole up to $900 worth of stuff you wouldn't go to jail and they knew how to do that and all that does is demoralize
Starting point is 00:51:42 all that does is destroy it destroys people's businesses they don't care you know and most of those businesses are white owned I'm sorry they just are every once in a while minority owned business will get in well they're just in the way
Starting point is 00:51:55 they're looking to destroy who we are they're looking to destroy our ability to live. And we can talk about AI. We can talk about, you know, technocracy. We can talk about all this stuff. I've been talking about this for, I mean, you know, Anthony Sutton and, you know, and Patrick, what the hell is his name?
Starting point is 00:52:18 I can't remember his name. Yeah, Patrick, what? They've been talking about this. What they've been writing about this books about this? Whitney Webb. Oh, teal, because, you know, and you can use it. What about the fact that they're just destroying us? What about the fact that they're destroying who we are?
Starting point is 00:52:36 You know, I mean, it almost seems like it's a smokescreen for us to worry about something in the future while we're being destroyed in the even worse way right now. Sure, I mean, no one wants to live in a panopticon. And that's the threat. The threat is, oh, you're going to live in this panopticon. Does it really matter if you're nobody? If you have no family, if you have no sense of your family, if you're not teaching your kids who their grandparents were and who their great grandparents were, does any of this matter? It all just seems to me to be a distraction.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And right now, all I care about is getting that back, getting that sense of history back, and helping people other people to, you know, realize that, helping other people to, you know, realize that, helping other people to know, you know, I live in an area where there are, you know, I know a couple families, their families have been here for 15, 200 years. They know where their families are buried. They know where their relatives are buried. They know what they've owned. They know who bought it. Who, who was the one who bought this piece of land? They know who started this business that they took over that their great, great-grandfather bought. Yeah. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your
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Starting point is 00:55:10 It's not even the threat. That's what they've taken away from us. They've just continued, and they continue to take away from us. They continue to strip it away. And while we're worrying about this panopticon over here, and we're worried about this thing over here, more and more of it's just being stripped away. And really,
Starting point is 00:55:29 if you choose not to participate in that, you can. It's just going to be a choice. It's just going to be planning. It's just going to be making a decision that you're not going to buy into this anymore and that you're going to go in another direction. There are places,
Starting point is 00:55:49 this state does not have, they don't even have the money anymore to, like the DEA doesn't have the money anymore to, you know, like, try to invade every dispensary in Los Angeles in a year. They couldn't do that. They don't have that kind of funding.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Every once in a while, they'll make an example out of somebody. Merrick Garland in the, in the Biden administration, did a really good job of that. of targeting Catholics. Anytime he could, praying at abortion clinics, throwing old women in jail for eight years, because they were praying in an abortion clinic. Well, that's, I'm glad that that woman is out.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I'm glad that she's been pardoned and everything. But that's just to get you scared. It's not going to happen to most people. most people, if they know what they're doing, can get together with other like-minded people and make plans and do things that mitigates the harm in the future that mitigates this.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You know, I mean, I don't want to give up the cities. I grew up in a city. I grew up in New York City. I mean, I would still love to go to New York City. I don't really go there anymore because it's just, it's sort of frustrating and it's sort of demoralizing.
Starting point is 00:57:14 But, you know, I mean, I don't think, for right now cities are the greatest place to be if people want to stay in cities and fight for them good luck i mean i'll i'll do as much as i can to help you in any way i can but you know i i just i think for what they're threatening if it's at all real um then you know they're there you should be much more worried about what's already been taken from you what's continually taken from you and what you've lost and getting back what you've lost, mentally, spiritually, you know, metaphysically, then worried about what could possibly happen.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Sure, you're going to think about things that could possibly be, could possibly hurt you in the future. But, you know, there was a time when people came together, and they formed alliances to mitigate this, to make sure it didn't happen. That's what should be happening now. But people don't want to do that. They're more,
Starting point is 00:58:31 they've been trained to think if I just get the right person elected in Washington, D.C., everything is going to be okay. Oh, what happens when, okay, and say you're happy with who's in there now. what happens when somebody isn't in somebody gets elected again who isn't it doesn't have your best interest or you don't like at least you know where are you at that point what the more important question is when that person gets elected in the future who is going to come to seek to destroy you even more or build that panopticon or all these things that so many people are
Starting point is 00:59:12 you know, promoting. Where are you going to be at? Where are you going to be at mentally? Where are you going to be at spiritually? Where are you going to be at financially? Where are you going to be at in a collective? Are you going to be with a collective
Starting point is 00:59:27 that understands what's coming, understands the issues, understands the historical problem? Or are you going to be alone and, you know, hey, I made a whole bunch of money and I live in the suburbs and,
Starting point is 00:59:41 oh, wait a minute, here comes, here comes the um here here comes something that's 10 times worse than 2020 the summer of 2020 and oh it's coming in my neighborhood oh and if i try to defend myself i'll go to jail these are the things these are the things to think about economics is a distraction and that's one of the reasons why i'm not a libertarian anymore economics is a distraction economics is just basically it's like scientology for you know, 120 IQ white guys. I was listening to one of your recent,
Starting point is 01:00:20 I think it was a half hour rant on libertarianism and I found it. I'm amusing and I do, you know, you have a point. I talk often about technocracy, which is a distant threat, although I believe it, you know, it's already encroaching and affecting my life and stuff. You know, I couldn't renew my debit card here in Mexico because I don't have my Mexican voter ID, which is the digital ID for Mexico. So it's beginning to seep in. But what you say, you know, I haven't really touched on that because I spent a lot of time on technocracy.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And I've been lamenting that for for decades now. And, and, you know, just Vinnie Sullivan, I have found his account on Telegram. He's on X. He's an Englishman. Really good stuff. And he just posted a photo of a old man, a grandpa with his grandson. And he says, one point an indicator of how quickly things have changed compared to even when I was little is that some of today's grandparents now believe that they're babysitting, their grandchildren. as opposed to spending the much needed time together that both parties once cherished.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And I've seen that, you know, and I just, you know, this is what the digital age has done in globalization. When I was a kid, everyone's on the streets. And now I go back to North Chicago where I grew up, to Croatia where I grew up, it's empty. It's all empty. Everything, everyone's been atomized. You're seeing that, you know, Mexico is still less worse in the sense that, There's still that family connection and extended family that they do get together more often than Americans. But even, you know, I'm seeing them hit those chinks in the armor. And so, yeah, I think, you know, that's a strong point. And I'm tied.
Starting point is 01:02:02 That's why I always want to go back to, even though I was born in the U.S., I've always identified as Croat. That's my name. That's my blood. And, you know, in the future, I'd want to go back there. And for the time being, though, I've assimilated in Mexico. You know, become a citizen, speak the language, and I've integrated. And I think that's what people, if you end up in a foreign country, that's what you should do. As you were alluding to earlier, I do want to ask, I do want to get your opinion on foreign policy in the world, what's going on in the world.
Starting point is 01:02:35 But before that, just any thought on the podcasting space, alternative media, there's all sorts of skullduggery going on. there. Just what's your sort of thoughts when it comes to the podcast space? Honestly, most of what I listen to are people I know. You know, people that I've spent time with, I listen to their podcasts. There are a couple of podcasts that I listen to who are like former intelligence people who keep eyes on like leftist radical groups, things like that.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You know, some foreign policy, some foreign policy as well. but for the most part, I try to avoid a lot of podcasts because, yeah, I don't know who's financing them. I don't know who, you know, what they're putting out. I mean, there are Twitter accounts where, you know, it's come out that they're financed by certain groups. There are certain individuals. And that if you look at who they're being financed by and you look at what they're promoting, Well, I mean, how are they going to promote something different? I mean, the only like real place I've ever heard where you could have your own opinion was like RT.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It was like people who actually got hired by RT and they're like, yeah, we don't care. You can talk about, you know, you can crap all over all over Russia and foreign policy and Putin all you want. That seems to be one of the only places that was legit. I mean, obviously they are also, you know, Russian-based and everything. And you have to be able to, there is going to be some propaganda on there. You're going to have to sift through. But I mean, you're going to have to do that everywhere. I mean, there are very, like I said, I pretty much trust the people that I know that I've, like, met in real life and spent time with.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Even if I disagree with them. There are people's podcasts I listen to that I disagree with, but I know them. you know and it's like and i want to hear because every once while they make a good point or i want to hear where they're coming from i want to hear what the what a different what what somebody who disagrees what me is saying maybe i can make my argument maybe that can help me hone my argument a little better but the um for the most part the alternative media and everything i mean once pretty much once you start once you give it a name it's done i think that you know johnny rotten said the first time someone said, let's start a punk band that punk rock was dead.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Because, you know, then you're giving it a name. And he was pretty much right. So, you know, there is the alternative, like the right wing alternative media is not organic anymore. I mean, some, I mean, you know, places like the blaze, you know, who are very nice and employ my friend, Warren McIntyre. I mean, they, who, who, how do they have so much money? The Daily Wire was financed by the Wilkes brothers who are billionaire, like, oil people or something.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I mean, they're billionaires. So, and they're also like hyper Zionists. So it's like, I mean, once you start digging in, it's like, okay, well, I see why certain people have, have, have the opinions they do. I try to find people who just are really, you know, I mean, I know that this is like almost cliche now, you know, people who are, you know, people who are. just asking questions. But yeah, I mean, that's what I do is sometimes I'm just asking questions. I want to know why. I want to know why people think this.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I want to know why people are pushing this. I want to know why this exists. I want to know why people, you know, or so many people are so eager to back Israel no matter what it does. I want to know why. And, you know, and I'm not going to accept. the answer because they're our greatest ally. Because I've heard that from too many people.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And if people, and if I just hear that from over and over again, that sounds like something that is just a trope that somebody picked up. I want to know why. And then Thomas Massey goes on Tucker Carlson and says, well, everyone in Congress has an APAC handler. It's like, oh, well, that gives me a better idea of why, you know, this government and so many people. And then when you study, you know, like dispensational theology, you have an idea of why so many evangelicals support Israel unconditionally, even though even they could be murdering fellow Christians
Starting point is 01:07:20 and they don't care. And they still support them. So, you know, I want to know why. And I like people who ask the question, why, or delve into philosophy or delve into history. And I would rather or listen to somebody, you know, question the, question the motives of the American Revolution, then listen to somebody talk about how, well, you know, they were, the taxes were raised 2%. So they didn't like, no, no, that's too easy. That's too easy. Give me something different. Tie it to aliens.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Tie it to space aliens. I'll listen to that before I'll listen to, well, they raised the taxes, 2%, and then we dumped the, we dumped the, we dumped the, we dumped the, tea in the harbor. I don't want to hear that. I don't care. I'd rather hear something way more interesting. Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:12 like, oh, well, maybe the, the Foundings, maybe a lot of those people who rose up were acting a little more like Antifa than they were like,
Starting point is 01:08:24 like actual freedom fighters. I've heard that before. And I was like, oh, that's a whole lot more interesting than 2% tax was raised. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:34 and the Boston Massacre. And yeah, I mean, so that's why the podcasting sphere to me is just like, I do what I do. If people want to listen to it, they can listen to it. If they don't want to listen to it and they're mad at me for things that I say, I can't. Okay, don't listen. I'm not going to beg you to listen because if somebody's begging you to listen, I mean, what's their motives? My motivation is I'm going to put something out there, something that I, think is interesting myself.
Starting point is 01:09:06 If you want to come along for the ride, come along for the ride. I wouldn't get just that further thought. I was going to mention you mentioned RT. I saw someone, RT producer just followed me. So maybe they want me to come on RT. And, you know, there's that big account, Kanakoa, however it's pronounced, massive X account. And I think I subscribe to their substack.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And they almost didn't publish anything until today. Out of the blue, I got an email from Kanakoa substack saying, by my X accelerator course on how to, you know, I'm going to, you know, prove how you can increase your following and everything on X. And I'm thinking that there's no way because you look at the people that are aligned. It's like that mainstream alternative media section. And many of us, you know, I get people who message me who have different accounts and like, I'm shadow band and I'm suppressed.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I'm like, what's the point of even talking? We all are. It's kind of like, tell me something I don't know. there's no point of wallowing in it. I'm just kind of like, I told someone this yesterday, we're all the soldiers and just fire away. Just fire away with your mortar. We're all suppressed in shadow ban. There's no use talking about it. That's just how the way it is. But, you know, there's no way I think, you know, Kennecoa has probably got some links to the system that allows them to get so big. But for those of us that are in a certain, that asks too many questions, we're never going to get.
Starting point is 01:10:27 X. X is nice for, you know, getting news, finding news, interacting with people. I mean, I can't stand X. I mean, I use it basically to do some promotion, things like that. But, you know, also today, just today, I was going back and forth with Nick Land. That wouldn't happen if it wasn't for X, you know, so, you know, having a little conversation about with Nick Land, who lives in China, of, you know, of all places. So it's like, I'm literally having. a conversation with one of the you know one of the top philosophers of the last 25 years on on x and and you know and he lives in china that so i mean once in a while x comes through for me so yeah i have a good day on x you know well you know don't get me wrong these are all useful tools
Starting point is 01:11:19 you know for telegram x um substack whatever um you know and let you know i get i i was able to dm luthwaq which there was no other way to contact him. And I got a response and get him on the, he gives me his email and I get on, I get him on the podcast. And so yeah, and I get my, I use it for news source to compile news for my weekly sub-sac analysis. And so stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:11:44 But you know, my point was that, yeah, it's, it's tough. And I did also want to, and what I don't like, just on your point of people, if they don't like what you're doing, just leave. Like there's this lady who's pestering me now on substack. And I had to mute her. I'm like, she
Starting point is 01:12:01 continues to ad hominem and insult me. And I'm like like really like just unsubscribe. Like really, I got better things to do than argue with someone online. I got you, I got kids to hang out, raise and podcasts to do. And it's just kind of like if you don't like geopolitics empire, unsubscribe, please.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Just leave me alone. Stop pestering me. And I don't like. People think that like people think that like we like we're begging them. I mean, I had a guy who subscribe to my substack and paid a year in advance, you know, as a subscription.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And like three or four months in, he didn't like the fact that, you know, I was hyperbolicly making fun of boomers. And I refunded him everything. I didn't refraight him. I refunded him the whole year subscription, and I blocked him.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Just so you don't think it's about the money. It's like, I'm not going to have you in my comments. just being a jerk. You know, I mean, I'm gonna, I'll put up, you know, if you're going to subscribe, if you're going to support me, I'll put up with, you know, I'll put up with a little bit. I'm not going to put up with you just like hammering the comments and everything is, everything is negative.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And, you know, one of the things I don't really like and is if I have a, you know, when I have a guest, you know, when I have a guest on, if you insult the guest. That guest took time out of their day to come on my show. And even if I disagree with everything they say, and even if you disagree with everything they say, that does not give you the right, no matter how much you're subscribing for, to just like openly insult this person.
Starting point is 01:13:51 It could be a friend of mine. I have, believe it or not, I have friends that I don't agree with. I'm friends with people who we disagree on more than we agree on. And I will choose them over a stranger every single day. Because we've sat down and we've broken bread together. And I know that this person would drive at 3 o'clock in the morning to come help me if I was broken down somewhere. I don't know you. Thank you for the $8 a month.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And it means a lot. I'm not making, I'm not minimizing that at all. But if you think that you're just going to like rip on people who like take time out of their day to come and talk, because you disagree with them and that you're, you can do it anonymously on the internet. Sorry. I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:49 I'd, I'd rather, I'd rather not have the money. Yeah, and just your further thought, you know, sometimes people assume, you know, they classify me and they get angry with me. Oh, you're a journalist. Why didn't you ask that question? I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not, when did I say I was a journalist? Why don't you call me, if you're going to call me a journalist, you may as well call me a child molester because I consider those to be the, be in the same class of people.
Starting point is 01:15:19 You know, prostitutes as Gerizante says this, but it's like, I'm a podcast. Like I was a teacher. I just want to talk to interesting people. So I'm a podcaster at most. I just basically record conversations with people. That's it. I'm not a journalist. What, you know, and then people sort of assume, you know, they want to meet me to be their mailman.
Starting point is 01:15:40 They'll say, hey, go go to this, you know, renowned figure in old media. Send them this, right? This. I'm like, dude. And I kind of, I think the point you said earlier, I don't like being affiliated with anyone. I'm just a dude with a mic on my own, doing my things. thing. And, you know, don't ask me to be your mailman or I'm not on your team. People think you're on their team.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Since we're complaining, here is my favorite. Hey, can you ask X, can you ask this person to unblock me on Twitter? Are we in fuck? Are we women, are we girls in high school? I mean, what the fuck is that? Literally, what the fuck is that? Oh, Jody blocked me on Twitter. Can you ask her why? I mean, it's happened to me. If someone blocked me, I'm like, I laugh at it. Like Lisa P.
Starting point is 01:16:36 She's some left as JFK researcher. And I'd even send her interview request previously. She blocked me because she didn't like an interview, a guess that I had. I'm like, okay, cool, Lisa, thanks. But, and then people that ask you for the, you know, you post some video or something, they ask you, can use the source? And they're like, there's means. for this. Like, you've got to Google at your finger. You can literally find it yourself. Like,
Starting point is 01:16:58 I have guests to find and podcast to edit to yourself, but just one more point on this before going to the foreign policy. This disagreement. I don't know how much, you know, this, what you just said, you know, I had on Brit Gillette, who's an evangelical Zionist, there's a portion of his stuff that I agree with, a portion that I don't. I have on then another flavor, like Chuck Baldwin, who speaks against Zionism, there's a lot, I agree with him on. And then what I don't, I had on Lutwok, who's a Zionist, but he's fascinating.
Starting point is 01:17:36 He's got an incredible, you know what I'm saying? And so like, but there's people that can't handle what you're talking about, this disagreement. And they have this very infantile reaction. And then they assume that I agree with every single guest. That's why I bring him on. And it's like, just thought on that for, I don't know if you had the same experience,
Starting point is 01:17:53 But lately people are losing their minds because I just happen to have conversations with some people. Well, I mean, I really think this goes towards the splintering, the how people are becoming more. People are becoming more partisan on their on their beliefs. You know, it's like I will have somebody on who, you know, I will go to like my subscriber chat and they'll be like, well, you know, I really don't like that person. but, you know, I like Pete, so, you know, I'm going to keep subscribing. It's like, okay, well, who are you, who was that post for? That post was for yourself. It made you feel better.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Okay, great. Yeah, I mean, I have Darrell, like, you know, I've had Darryl Cooper on. And Darrell Cooper, you know, I think he's, he does really well in researching and reading books that other people don't read and then putting together good podcasts. but, you know, he also has, like, opinions. He has social opinions that a lot of right-wingers don't agree with. And I'll be like, well, you know, I would love to listen to that, but I can't listen to Daryl Cooper. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:03 So who's that comment for? I mean, I literally think people are just putting comments out there. I mean, and it really is a feminine kind of energy where it's like I need to, these people need to hear my opinion. It's like, start a podcast. I mean, I've told people that. They're like, I can't believe you had that person on. I can't believe you had that person on and you didn't have somebody there to counter their message. Start your own podcast.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Okay. I'm going to do things the way I've always done it, the way I want. This is my. I treat this like in my kingdom. I'm the king of this. I do it however I want. I have on whoever I want. I talk about whoever I want.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Audience capture, I do not want audience capture at all. I don't want to succumb to that. I've seen way too many podcasters succumb to audience capture. No, if you like it and you support me, God bless, love you. But if you're just going to whine and it's like, stop. You don't have to, you don't have to support.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I mean, it's, it really is a sign of the times. And it's also, it's the anonymity, knowing that they'll never meet me. And, you know, 95% of the comments that are made on social media, they would, you know, people would never say to another person's face. And I also think it's the, you know, the main character syndrome. It's like, well, you know, I'm watching this show. I'm making this show popular. I'm part of the reason why this show is popular, so I get a say. You don't.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Sorry. I mean, I just, I don't know what to say. I mean, whenever I meet like a listener, 99.9% of the time, they're the, I mean, awesome. We can have a meal together. We can have a drink together. We can have a smoke together. It'd be great. we'll have a great time.
Starting point is 01:21:20 But it's like, why do you have to act like that online? You know, it's like, I do that to my enemy. So I'm rude. I will be rude to my enemies online. People that I consider me my enemies. You know, I'm a certain way. I have certain beliefs. And really, if you are the opposite of me, you are my enemy.
Starting point is 01:21:42 That's the way, I'm sorry, that's the way this world has gotten, you know, to go back to some of the things we're talking about. There are only globalists and anti-globalists now. No Republicans, no Democrats, no libertarians. You're a globalist or you're an anti-globalist. If you're a globalist, you're my enemy. I will treat you. I will talk, I will say, but I will say that to their face too.
Starting point is 01:22:06 If you're treating, if you're coming at me and you, and you're being rude and you're like, well, I'm a listener. I'm assuming you're hate listening because I'm not, If I'm rude to my friends, they know that it's a joke. That we're being rude to joke around and just be dudes or something like that. But I just don't get this whole thing about how, you know, it's like, oh, you know, because I'm a listener, I get to, I get to say whatever I want and shit on Pete's friends and everything like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Well, so maybe that's why you're blocked. We're getting a little bit about, you know, I wasn't planning this, but it's good to air our, you know, my grievances, your grievances behind the scenes of the podcasting space. And, and, you know, and like you said, I think it's only my irate minority and the majority of, you know, my listeners are, love what I'm doing. And they get it, you know, I assume if you're going to support financially Peter myself, it's like, you've listened to geopolitics and empire, you get what I'm doing. And then that's why you support me. If you don't get it, don't support me. And the thought police, you know, someone on the YouTube
Starting point is 01:23:17 comment i put up luatwok and like you interviewed luwtwak you interviewed that guy it's like well let's learn from these people um and i often this is the thing that people what i don't understand just wasting time on this negative negativity and hating like i will usually the only comments i make online on whatever social platform is egging people up like people that i like oh that was awesome and i almost never like for me it's a waste of time to go to someone's channel that i hate And then start saying how much they suck. It's like, I'd rather be doing more, you know, positive stuff, you know, that I like doing. And, you know, if I don't like that, I just, I don't even bother with them.
Starting point is 01:23:59 All right. I used the example of Shahid Bolson recently. You know, he's middle nation. He's got this big channel. He talks in geopolitics. I think he's in the American converted to Islam. I'm not Muslim. That's opposed to my Christian worldview.
Starting point is 01:24:11 But he says some really fascinating. He's got insights and analysis that makes you think. So I'm like, there's a couple of things. video there's a couple of videos that i really enjoyed what he had to say but for the most part i disagree with them right but my point is that i'm able to like listen and not be like oh shahy bolson you know oh you know freaking out um but let me you know does i mention islam and in the middle east and just your thoughts on foreign policy they are the specter of a third world war you know you russia ukraine what's going on in the middle east the pivot to china just what's sort of your uh two cents when it comes to
Starting point is 01:24:46 where we're at there. Well, I mean, I'm, I hold the, the unorthodox opinion on Ukraine that, you know, Ukraine started this, but it wasn't really Ukraine. It was what it was, you know, NATO, it was Western forces. And NATO, you know, my friend Thomas, I say NATO doesn't exist anymore. NATO is just an excuse to mess with people that you don't like. And, you know, I mean, I know that they, they said that they weren't going to bring NATO up to the Russian border in the 1990s and that they had.
Starting point is 01:25:16 And I know about the coup in Maidan in 2014. I know about them getting rid of a duly a properly elected leader. I know about the FDU call from Victoria Newland. I also know the history of Russia. And I know that a lot of the people who in the, in our government, that push Russia hate are Jewish. And they have an ethnic animosity to Russia because of some things that happened in Russia, you know, pale of settlement kind of things. And I'm actually covering that in a very long series on my on my channel right now where a lot of this is just propaganda and lies.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And it's a historical. And Solzhenysohnit wrote about this. And it's so funny that so many people love to, you know, love to talk about the Gulag Archipelago to crap all over communism. But when it comes to his book 200 years together, they don't want to read that because he actually gives you the history of what happened there. And so there are a bunch of these Ukrainian Jews whose families are Ukrainian Jews in the government like Victoria Newland and, you know, Robert Kagan. I know Robert Kagan's no longer in the government. Anthony Blinken and all these people who like their families were in pale of settlement.
Starting point is 01:26:40 And they're like, oh, well, the Russians treated us so bad. we need, you know, and our people took over and were, you know, really headed up the Soviets up until, you know, a certain point. And then in the 50s, it was like, well, you know, we don't have as much power over, over the Soviet Union anymore. So we're going to form the neocons and we're going to be completely anti-Russia. And then in the 90s, when the Soviet Union falls, that changes and all these oligarchs go in there and they rape the country and basically, you know, drive down the, the lifespan of the average Russian male. And then Putin comes in and goes, no, no, no, that's not going to happen anymore. No, we're going to clean things up and we're going to get you people out of here. And ever since then, they're trying to kill Putin and they're trying to kill Russia.
Starting point is 01:27:32 sorry, it's an ethnic, this isn't, this isn't, this is ethnic animosity that goes back to like, like 1648 and 1652 when a Cossack named Kemmetsky, um, crushed a bunch of Jews who had decided that their Messiah was coming back. They're proto-Sabatians and they and and Kemalnetsky put them down because they were murdering polls and, and, and Russians. Okay. I know that history. This is a lot older than in the 1990s. This goes back to the 1590s. We're going back 500 years on these things. So that's what I see happening in Ukraine. Hopefully, hopefully, you know, this can come to an end. You know, we've heard things in the last 24 hours. It seemed hopeful. And I know that Russia just dropped a bomb in Kiev, that I don't think it would hit anything residential from what I understand. It was it was targeted. So we'll see what happens with that.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Israel, Gaza, I mean, come on. This is 80 years. And people want to go, oh, this is a 3,000 year. No, it's not. No, it's not. They decided that they were going to, Zionism pops up in Russia in the 1850s. and in the mid-1800s, and they're talking about how they need a homeland,
Starting point is 01:29:02 and they're like, oh, we need to go back to, oh, but there's people living there. Then you have the lie that, oh, a land without a people for a people without a land. Yeah, well, what about the people who are living there? They go back there. And then for some reason, instead of going back there and just like
Starting point is 01:29:21 slaughtering all these people or driving all of them out, they decided, oh, we're going to have our enemy on the doorstep. Our enemy, right? We're going to keep our enemy like right next to us. Who does that other than people who just want to be seen as maybe victims, which is historic? So, you know, it's come down to this. October 7th happened. Oh, my God, all these horrible things happened on October 7th. I don't care. I don't care. I'm sorry. I'm anti-Zionist. Deal with it. You know, that that war didn't start on a October 7th.
Starting point is 01:29:59 The war started a long, you know, started over 100 years ago. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what's going to happen with that. It looks like there is really no Gaza left. So, you know, it's just a matter of what kind of, you know, what kind of deal can be made. I mean, I have no idea what's happening there. China seems to be a little more important. I mean, they make. a lot of the things that we, you know, like, especially the pharmaceutical thing.
Starting point is 01:30:33 You know, we're a country that doesn't really care about like homeopathy or health. We just, you know, shove pills down our throats to make ourselves, to keep ourselves alive. So, and China makes a lot of those. And, you know, it's like Steve Mennon said in the, in the interview for the book, um, War for Eternity said I was in Harvard Business School in the 1980s and what they were teaching, was that, hey, why are you people like manufacturing stuff here when you can have it manufactured in China for pennies on the dollar and it'll be even cheaper than just have it shipped back? You'll make a whole lot more money and you don't have to worry about manufacture, you know, then they use the whole pollution thing. Oh, we're exporting our pollution and now China has to deal with that.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Well, you know, as Lutvok talks about in Kudetat, you have a problem. if somebody else is manufacturing your stuff, you know, is manufacturing your needs. And I don't know how that, I have a tendency to believe from inside things that I've heard from people who, you know, are very well connected that by the end of the year, there's going to be something that's going to happen. Something will happen over Taiwan. Probably something at sea will happen. And yeah, well, it's not going to be good.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I've been getting that signal too, just reading the, because I read everything, and just reading the pro-Washington Pentagon papers, they keep putting out a high quantity of China's going to take Taiwan, China's going to take Taiwan, which to me is a signal that it seems like Washington either wants China to take, you know, it's like Washington wants to get the party started. And so, well, I think, you know, I don't think that China's going to take Taiwan. I think it
Starting point is 01:32:33 could be something as simple as any exports that leave Taiwan have to go through China first and or anything that's imported as Taiwan has to go through China first. And that'll be enough of a stressor to be an excuse to, you know, have a, you know, have, you know, one ship ramp another or something like that. I think that's a more likely, more likely scenario. And I've actually, you know, heard that that exact scenario spelled out. So, you know, if that happens, if it happens like that, my sources were pretty good. But the, yeah, I mean, I think that the China thing is just going to have to be dealt with.
Starting point is 01:33:18 I think the best, you know, like looking at like an overview of the world. I really think like a more, you know, more of Monroe Doctrine kind of thing where we take, we worry about our area of the world. The Russia worries about their area of the world. And, you know, you start looking at looking at things that way. I think Russia should be an ally of the United States. I think Russia should be an ally of Germany. I don't see any reason why those, why in this world, other than the fact that we're run by globalists who are completely psychotic, that those relationships shouldn't exist. China's a different story.
Starting point is 01:34:05 I don't have the answer for China, but manufacturing things at home again would definitely be a, you know, would be a start to that. the whole tariff thing I have a friend who lives in Beijing who has said that so many like even if you have the tariffs there so many items and products have been
Starting point is 01:34:30 exempted from it that they really the tariffs don't mean anything so I think it's a bigger issue than the tariffs it's going to have to be something on more of a scale of of treaties even if they're not written but yeah I mean, I just don't, yeah, I would like to see Zionist influence removed from the United States.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And I think then Israel becomes, is not our problem anymore. Ukraine isn't our problem anymore. And, you know, I really think something that would help us help the world is if Europe just decided that they were going to rise up and be like, we're not going to deal with this globalization anymore. We're not going to deal with this globalism. We're not going to deal with this deracination. We're not going to deal with this invasion of, you know, they've been importing military-aged men who are rapists and murderers into our country to seemingly punish us and to make us want to leave or to just destroy our way of life.
Starting point is 01:35:41 And, you know, I think a lot of it hinges upon. on what Europe does. Because right now, I can't say that Europe is the, is an ally of the United States. They seem more, they seem to be more of an enemy. And it shouldn't be that way.
Starting point is 01:35:56 That's where, that's where, you know, most heritage Americans are from. That's where our blood comes from. That's where our families come from. There's no reason why we shouldn't be friendly. But globalism and World War II did a hell of a job,
Starting point is 01:36:12 did a hell of a job on, we don't even have a West anymore. Calling it the West from a philosophical standpoint doesn't even really it doesn't really mean anything anymore. It's more calling it the West is just a designation of
Starting point is 01:36:27 a group of nations and lands. The Western Special Economic Zone We've covered a bulk of unisonation of America, globalism, Trump, technocracy, alt-media podcasting, World War III. We've covered the waterfront.
Starting point is 01:36:47 You know, is there anything else that you think is important to get across, mention that you're... I mean, just go back to, you know, we're at the point where we've been, it's been preached to us for 100 years that individualism is more important than anything. You're an individual. That's the most important thing. And, you know, to a certain extent, you're always going to, you're going to have, even in the most homogenous societies, you're going to have individualism. You're going to have, you still have a right to private property. You'll have a right to own a home. But collectivism is historically what's protected people from their enemies. And, you know, we have enemies within, our enemies are inside the gate.
Starting point is 01:37:37 We have enemies that are foreign as well. And the way to fight them, if you're going to have a, deracinated people who only think of themselves as an individual economic unit instead of a polis, instead of a, you know, a people, instead of a, you know, in a spanglerian sense, a race, then you're, you're doomed. This is just going to continue and it's just going to get worse. So, yeah, find your people, find, you know, find the people who, you know, who agree with you, who, you know, share your values and figure out a way to collectivize and become powerful,
Starting point is 01:38:25 even if it's only in a spiritual sense. Start there. Start with a spiritual sense of unity with a group of people and see where you can build that from there. Yeah, that's what I, you know, we've got close relationships in our spiritual community. here and in Mexico. And, yeah, community. That's the way to go. Well, good getting a download from you, Pete, your update.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Again, your links are in the description. But tell us again where we can follow you best, your project's best way to support you and all that. I'm on all podcatchers for now. Apple, Spotify, everything. The Pete Cunionas show, Pete Substack.com is where you can, Um, you know, subscribe and, you know, I put the episodes on there and, um, you know, the old glory club. Check out if you're in the United States and you're, uh, you know, you're a young man who is, you know, looking for people of like mind.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Go to the old glory club.com. Check out our Twitter, our Twitter account. We have a lot of fun with that. And, um, you know, try to try to find some people, you know, we've reached a point. now where wherever you are in the United States, an hour or two away, there's going to be people looking to start chapters. So, you know, it's just a, it's a fraternity. And, you know, what I've been talking about as far as collectivization, no better place to start than a fraternity. And you can, you can work from there, figure out what you, in your area, what needs to be done in order to protect yourself from globalism. Well, I wish you the best in the
Starting point is 01:40:18 Balkanization process. May the odds ever be in your favor. And thanks for coming on the podcast. Thank you, everyone. Appreciate it.

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