The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on Our Interesting Times w/ Tim Kelly Talking 'Trump 2.0'

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

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Pete, how are you doing? I'm doing good, Tim. What's going on? What are we going to talk about today? Well, last time we talked was November, and we were talking about, you know, what's going to happen, was a lot going to happen. That was a decade ago, right? Yes. So I think we're less than a month into

the Trump, second Trump administration, Trump 47. And it started out just with the Florida activity. It hasn't slowed down. I think it was Aaron McIntar's for doing the flooding the zone strategy and just keep it going. But these executive orders, these sort of executive or administrative moves against the administrative state, the deep state, if you will. The biggest thing, at least one of the biggest things, was this executive order shutting down United States Agency for International Development, U.S. aid, and it's exposed sort of basically the scope and scale as so much of with the federal government and, of course, those agencies or departments or not departments, but organizations, NGOs, if you will,

and news outlets, media outlets, they're feeding off the trough. And basically it's like a huge criminal enterprise that's been exposed. And so you've been following, I've listened to your show. It is quite stunning to watch what's happening. I am tempted to believe that it's all just fake. It's not really happening. So what do you have to say?

Because it's just too much. Yeah, that's one of those things is like, Because of everything that we've seen in our life, and especially in the last, I would say, 20 years, anything that looks like change we have to be skeptical of, especially if that change, which I'm reminded of constantly by Spurgs on the internet, if that change doesn't involve calling out or persecuting a certain minority group that has holds undue, you know, a lot of power, then nothing ever happens. This can't be real. Yet I'm looking at a video of the Jewish family services in San Diego,

and they're packing it up and laying off over 100 people because their funding has been cut off because USAID has been shut down. So, yeah, it seems like, it seems fake because, you know, we didn't expect anything to happen. I mean, there are people who didn't expect the J6 prisoners to get, to be pardoned or anything like that. So with that happening, I mean, that just, that's enough to be happy. Hey, you know, the guy got reelected.

Those people get their lives back and everything. Those people get their lives back. But then you see things slowly start to be dismantled. You think it's fake because, you know, how could it be real? Apparently, because there aren't trains full of millions of migrants yet, well, there won't be, but I assume that a lot of self-deportation is happening because I know people who move in migrant communities and they're telling me that people are just up and leaving and they're going home.

That's anecdotal, but life's anecdotal. but it seems like some good things are happening and the USAID thing one is huge I've written I wrote a couple things back in the day for anti-war.com and one of the things that we always tracked was where this money was going, what was paying for it. And USAID would always come up.

It would always come up as dark money going to places, feeding revolution, I remember doing an episode years ago on the takedown of Yugoslavia and how that was basically the National Endowment for Democracy after they bragged in the New York Times about how they were going to basically do the things the CIA wouldn't do. And, you know, NED run and founded by all the usual suspects and how they were financed by USAID. And yeah, so what are we seeing? You know, it's hard to know. People, I have people telling me that, well, you know, they're cutting off the money to this certain group, but they're going to figure out a way to get the, they're making sure

the money keeps flowing to that certain group and everything. Three point eight million to Israel. It's like, yeah, three point eight million to Israel. I mean, three point eight billion to Israel, a bunch of billions to Egypt, yeah, that is not going to stop as long as those two countries exist unless they go to war again. Because basically that's just a payoff so that they don't fight each other. I mean, that's literally what that is. That's what people don't realize. It's payoff money say, don't kill each other. Don't war against each other. And so I have people saying, oh, well, they'll get the money to them somehow or another. And I'm like, okay, so tell me where, Tell me how.

We know it was going through USAID. How are they doing it now? I don't know, but it's definitely going to, okay, how do you know that? Give me your proof. You're just theorizing. We've actually been shown receipts now about certain things, so we know that certain things that we thought in the past were true. And it seems like people just want to keep losing and, you know, make up things and be like,

oh, well, that money is going to keep flowing. It's like, okay, well, how is it going to, how is it going to, How is it going to fall? Because I'm not denying that. I'm not denying that it could keep flowing, but tell me how, show me where. And, you know, until then, until I know that, until I see the fruits of it, then, you know, I have to assume what I'm seeing with my eyes is essentially real. Yeah, what's a lot of these crazy, obviously they highlight some of the lunier, crazier, crazier funding or programs at the USA-AID funded.

Was it like a transgender opera in Columbia or Guatemala or something? Yeah, so I mean, Mike Ben's on Tucker Carlson's show, I mean, really exposed himself as a snake on that show as far as I'm concerned. It was basically promoting saying, well, you know, soft power works and USAID was providing the funds for soft power. And maybe these transgender operas do things. It's like, no, just shut it all down. Well, who doesn't work for them? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Who benefits?

Guibona. Well, so what does Samantha Power doing now? She didn't, her and Victoria Newland, after she left the state, go to work for USAID? Yeah. Well, I know Victoria Newland was, I guess, what do they call that, the ambassador, the head, or the person who basically is the voice of, you know, people talk to to figure out. out where the dark money is going. But yeah, Samantha Power was another one.

So, yeah, I mean, why would, why would these people specifically, like, arch neocons? I mean, like, you know, I don't even consider them to be Americans. And I don't think Samantha Power is. And she's speaking with a British accent. Yeah, and I consider Victorian-Nuland to be, to be Ukrainian. Well, she married that, she married that Patriot, Cass Sunstein. So that's Samantha power, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And obviously Victoria Newland is married to Robert Kagan, which is a cone in Russian. So yeah, these are people who are fighting a 300-year-old blood libel by Kempel. You know, 400 years now. Kemmelnitsky and his Cossacks basically killing a bunch of lunatic Jews who decided the Messiah was coming so that they could just start murdering people and taking their land and taking their property and everything and Cameliski has come to come in and as is what we know the history.

Sabotized Evie thing. Yeah, well, I mean, that's where all the, that's where a lot of that and a lot of the war comes from. 17th century. Yeah. And I'm covering on the show with Dr. Matthew, Rafael Johnson, now we're slowly reading through Alexander Solzhenesis 200 years together. We're on page 70 and we're on episode 13.

So it's probably going to be a year's project of doing this. And it just shows over and over again that, you know, especially when it comes to Ukraine, which I think all of this ties into exactly what's happening in Ukraine today. This is not, and the hatred towards Russia that you see. is they were using USAID to fund their, you know, blood hate, their blood hatred, their ethnic animosity. And I think it's interesting that people like Colonel McGregor and, and even Judge Knapp and Tucker Carlson have actually said this.

It's like, said, you know, this seems to be an ethnic conflict. And the people who are doing this aren't even Americans. Yeah, but Gregor started talking like, forward on that uh was it the um the guy out of scotland what's it the guy at the hat yeah i can't remember what that guy's name is the labor guy um yeah but he said yes this is nathanio represents international jewish power and finance and then if you would have said if he would have said jury i would have fallen out of my chair um so there's and then even i guess i guess I guess there was an interview I saw with, was it Colonel Davis or Davies?

Yes. And they were talking and again, Tucker was talking sort of in a roundabout way, talking about, you know, they love the Soviet and was atheist. They hate it now that it's Christian. Who's they? Cold warriors. Are these cold warriors? Trotskyites. Yeah.

Anyone who's listening who hasn't heard that yet go to Tucker's interview with Colonel Davis, start around 42 minutes and just play it. And you just hear him basically saying that these. you know he's basically calling them out and um you know still you know once you cross that i think you know this tim once you cross that line there's no coming back no and he um mark that back yeah yeah he's a man he yeah i'm of the opinion that Tucker Tucker's his podcast like 80% of the episodes are not for us he's like speaking to the white house and speaking to people in power. I think because I'm under the impression.

I agree with Dr. Jones that he might be representing a waspy elite that is sick of this crap. This was our country, darn it. You took it. Well, he let you in and he took over. Oh, if only there were history books to teach us that, like, I don't know, Jewish encyclopedias and Jewish Virtual Library. and say, oh, wait a minute, that's right, they tell us. Well, it is, I mean, then you have a, I mean, USAID, which was created by John F. Kennedy, in 1961.

It was, I think it was a foreign assistant act of 1961 that directed the president to create such an agency. And, of course, the executive branch creates it. And pretty much fleshes out, fleshes out, if you will, determines how it operates and all that. So much of the agencies, how it operates, its various offices, all that, at least theoretically it's controlled by the executive. Obviously, it hasn't been controlled by executive for decades. It's sort of a rogue agency, outfit, if you will, just there enriching people. And it's just basically largely, there's some ideological element to it because if you look

at some of these programs like AED, NED, International Republican Institute, these are just, you know, getting soft power. And, of course, in Ukraine, it's not very soft. I think they have over a million dead in Ukraine now, so it's not very soft. It can get very hard, quick. But it's kind of funny because you look at U.S., whether it's the Peace Corps or international aid in these things, or the CIA funding modern art or literary magazines or publications, it was an attempt during the Cold War sort of fight the propaganda against the Soviet Union. And it's kind of interesting. You note that. U.S. aid programs and I guess soft power abroad became more perverse and gay as the U.S. became more perverse and gay. It sort of mirrors the long march to the institutions. And it's very typical how they simply don't know the same crowd that we're talking about, you know, the Saturday people. They don't know boundaries and they just push it too far. And they just pushed this. They could have

kept this, if they just kept moderate about it, you know, it somewhat reasonable, they could have kept this thing going a lot longer. And now, once it's exposed, and I think a while back, I think I asked you not too long ago, do elections matter in an occupied government? Well, I guess evidently they do matter somewhat, because personnel's policy and Trump apparently came in the office and it appears, I remember there was talk about an article to presidency and was it section F of the, was a section F of firing, you know, idea of sort of firing the bureaucracy. There's some talk of Trump doing this in his first term, but then he was out of office in 2020, as you all remember.

But it appears that they had a game plan going into here. I mean, they hit the ground running, and they haven't stopped. So they're with Elon Musk. And I guess it's because Elon Musk is involved because he just wants to put a chip in my brain if I listen to, you know, some people. Because it's a coalition of people, some very powerful. and some very powerful people who knew that the system was being run into the ground, run off the tracks, if you will, and a correction was made,

which means that people running this show, if you will, probably have differing motivations. But that doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't cheer it on and support it from time to time, at the same time, providing pressure and criticism when necessary. Wouldn't you agree? No, I agree. At 100%, the good thing about having competing interests is that no one's going to not one group is if one group gets takes over and gets their way then we're

basically back to what we had before now if that group is a group that aligns with us 40 or 50 percent maybe even 30 percent it's a lot better than what we had in the past so i'm not somebody who yeah i i had my libertarian i had a long libertarian phase where you know i purity spiral then everything had to be perfect, and I let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I try not to do that anymore, although I do obviously have my biases towards certain things, certain subjects.

But, yeah, I think having competing factions in there is actually a good thing because not one of them is going to get everything they want. As we were talking about before we started recording, you know, people will say Trump is the, the most Zionist president of all time. I don't even know if he, like, knows what a Zionist is. And I think if you, like, gave him the definition of a Zionist,

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I think he's just one of these people who, he's a boomer, who has believed something his whole life. and, you know, and he's been dealing with certain groups his whole life and he continues to deal with them. That's not a good thing if you're, you know, quote unquote, the most powerful man in the world. But, you know, seeing these groups and seeing that he's definitely surrounded himself with people who want change. And I think the reason they want things to change is. at least I'm seeing more and more people using the term administrative state. I mean, like all day on Twitter, people I've never even heard of.

And they're people who weren't using it six months ago, which is a good thing because, you know, we've had the administrative state for almost 100 years now. Look where it's gotten us. Well, that's only legitimate. That's only legitimate if you're expanding government at a breakneck speed. Right. If you use administrative power to check the state, get rid of agencies and hold it accountable,

then all of a sudden it's illegitimate. But apparently, if you're Woodrow Wilson and FDR, it's perfectly fine because it's progressive. You can't be, you can't be administratively progressive, but you can't be administratively regressive. Yeah, you mentioned that the executive was supposed to be in charge of USAID and everything. And what, I mean, we haven't had an executive, a real executive since Nixon.

And look what happened. Somebody who understood how to use that executive power who was on our side. And I don't even consider Bill Clinton or even Barack Obama to be to have wielded executive power. They were more run by the administrative state, in my opinion. And it just seems that that's the way it's been since Nixon. And a lot of people will say, oh, well, you know, really, really started a new deal. Or it started World War I or they want to go back to Spanish-American War, whatever, Teddy Roosevelt and expansion empire. I really see like the early 1970s after they got rid of Nixon.

That's when you can see a real ramping up of the power, especially after the 1973. war. And I'm not talking about Vietnam. And, yeah, so Trump is wielding executive power. Some of the things he's doing, if they are carried out and they are carried out to completion, will benefit, will benefit us. But I also think, and I was saying this, when I realized that there was a group of tech elites that wanted Trump in power, what we were, you know, what we refer to as a PayPal Mafia. It's not something we came up with. There was a Wikipedia page for Christ sick. We knew that there was, there were groups who saw that if radical change didn't happen, they couldn't keep going with what they wanted to do. They're used to doing business a certain

way. They can't do business a certain way if it was keeping going in that direction. If if the regime would have kept going the way it is. So what we could see is if we don't see a complete dismantling of the regime, which is you'd have to be, you'd have to be polyamination to think it's going to happen to be able to predict, I think they're going to take down this whole administrative regime. No, what you're probably seeing is people who are trying to dismantle as much as they can so that they can keep doing the things,

you know, must once go to Mars. People like a lot of the little tech guys are really interested in AI and they don't want China to be ahead of us in AI. They want to control AI. They want AI to be run, you know, they want it to be the United States

who controls it. So I think that's a lot of the self-interest that you're seeing. And, you know, one thing that I did learn a long time ago that I think it is true is that, you know, another person's self-interest can benefit you. I mean, inventions, things that make your life easier. Sure, that person invented that because they wanted to make money, but it also could make your life easier. Henry Ford, inventing the car, things like that. He wanted to do that to become wealthy and to have a legacy

and be remembered for all time. Him having his newspaper. It's just a bonus. But the, yeah, I think what we're seeing now is we're seeing a struggle for power between like some tech elites, the dying neocons, but also a faction of Jewish power that I wouldn't call exactly neocons. But I think they're ones that are understand that the golem that they created with the woke is coming back to bite them in the ass. And yeah, people like that. This is why they will. Watch why you have a war on DEI now, right?

Yeah, yeah, or Paul Singer. I mean, Paul Singer is somebody who he's basically, if you really look into it, he's responsible for like to steal the Ossier. Like that came out of his, that came out of his, what was that, the free beacon? Who, yeah. So, and then he. He also bankrolls Chris Rufo, right? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, the Manhattan Institute. Yeah. We talked about that on our new, our new little panel show, the Inquisition, where, I mean, you have Chris Rufo who's talking about the new right. We're going to take down DEI. We're going to take down the woke and all this stuff. And then, like, Bill Crystal is on the board of the Manhattan Institute.

Who was a recipient, received a lot of money from USAID, turns out. Of course. Through a series of LLCs. It's like money laundry. Yeah, it was one of the funnier things that I saw today was that Chris Rufo was trying to find it because I responded to it in a certain way. Chris Rufo was talking about being careful about who you hire or who you have in your sphere. and a friend of mine had posted up, yeah, he said, Rufo had posted up, he said,

the right must be more selective and the people it welcomes into the firmament. Conservatives have been locked out of elite institutions for so long, many will accept any celebrity that signals opposition to the left, even a common pimp with a social media following. And he's talking about Andrew Tate. they're basically they're talking about that Trump's saying that say brothers and my buddy Ham

put up here he goes absolutely the right must safeguard against undesirable elements to signal right wing but are in fact avowed enemies of the people and he has a picture of Bill Crystal who is on the board of the Manhattan Institute which

Chris Rufo works for so out of one side of his mouth you know he's like we can't have a pimp be, you know, we can't be championing a pimp, even though he just hired a porn star to write for him. But he also, he works for, he's got Paul Singer on his board and he's got Bill Crystal and people like that on his board. So yeah, these people are, they're slime. They're snakes.

And it's more and more of, I think it's one of the things that we do with the Old Glory Club is, more and more we're only trusting people that we've actually met in real life and pressed to flesh with and spend time with. Now, of course, there's been a lot of opposition by the courts. Various judges, federal judges have ruled that Trump's executive orders are unconstitutional for whatever reason. Apparently, the Treasury is not allowed to look into how the money spent. apparently there's a constitutional right to promote transgenderism, you know, in Romania,

because if you shut down that program. But it appears none of those rules have been over, those initial rules have been overruled. But if there is a confrontation with the court, here we have, what we have is what they call a constitutional crisis. I just call it constitutional politics because really the job of the executive is to interpret the constitution as he executes the law. the law of the job of the Congress is to interpret the Constitution as it writes legislation and passes legislation. And the job of the judiciary is to interpret the Constitution if adjudicates disputes, which really have is concurrent review, which is really how the system was supposed to work.

But since, you know, Justice Marshall and Marbury v. Madison has been presumed the Supreme Court has so right for judicial review. And all these disputes, of course, it didn't really become. a big issue probably until the 19th century, sorry, the 20th century, particularly World War I, a lot of the rulings that ratified some of the abuses of the Woodrow Wilson administration, and across the conflicts around the New Deal with that Natural Recovery Act. Because then we offer the races in the 50s with... Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg. Unwind in our luxurious spa, savor sumptuous farm-fresh dining, relax in our exquisite accommodations. Step outside and be captivated by the wild Atlantic surrounds. Your five-star getaway, where every detail is designed with you in mind.

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interesting. I mean, he tweeted that on Saturday, and it's Monday, and it's a holiday, so a lot didn't happen today. So, yeah, I'm interested to see what happens tomorrow. Like I said, you never know what's going to happen, especially. just seems like in the last 28 days, so much has happened that, you know, there are flooding, flooding the zone as, as they say it. Well, I mean, we've already seen, I think the difference with this administration is, is hitting the ground running like they did. They also have lawyers.

They have teams of lawyers ready to go in there. They've already had a couple, they had a big one reversed with getting access to, allowing Doge to have access to multiple, computer systems within the government. Is it true? There are millions of people that are 150 years old getting social security payments? I don't think it's millions. I think it's like in the hundreds. I think it's in the hundreds from what I saw.

But it is, of course. I mean, as soon as I heard stuff like that where it was like, you know, people have been dead for a while. I'm like, I remember hearing in like 2003 or 2004, someone had said, Osama bin Laden's still getting paid by the CIA. And I'm like, oh, I mean, that might explain it now. Who knows?

But the, I mean, I just think that one of two things is going, well, one of three things is going to happen. One, they're just going to flood their, put their people into the courts and get things reversed. Two, they're going to ignore them and just do whatever they want and just go full article too. and just go all the power and authority is invested in the executive. Okay, well, that's the way, that's the route I'm going.

I mean, that's the one I would like to see more than anything else. Or three, they'll just lose. And, you know, if they lose, we were talking about this on the Old Glory Club live stream on Thursday. Our friend, Lou Thimplar brought this up. He said, if we lose, you know, if, and when I say we, I'm talking about, like the people that would be more protected under a Trump regime or advanced regime with free speech and, you know, being able to go on on Twitter and still keep your job, get fired, but get rehired when you say, you know, you couldn't pay me to marry outside

of my ethnicity like our friend Big Balls did. the if if this all goes to crap and 2028 rolls around and a Gavin Newsom or just another apparatchik of the old regime gets put in there we're in trouble they're I mean I'm predicting they are going to come after us they will and it will be ugly and I kind of wonder how we avoid violence even with what's happening now because that's what the left is. And I have people who've been scouring forums to see what leftists are talking about. And they're talking about forming militias and saying this is what the Second Amendment was for. We better use it for ourselves.

You know, Googling stuff like how do we form a militia, which is just genius? and I mean the way I look at it is as somebody who has I wouldn't say I'm an expert but I would say I definitely know more a lot more than the average person about the Spanish Civil War I don't trust these well the fact that you know there was a Spanish Civil War put you yeah well I mean I look at you can even in the decade that it occurred I know I know I know that I know that the month, I know the month and year, month and year it started and ended. The, I know the dates it started and ended actually. Um, it's just the most important, one of the most important happens. Wait, I thought the Spanish of war is like the French Revolution. It never ended. Right. Well, basically, yeah, for the left, it hasn't. And I look at, I look at the, a lot of the leftists in this country. Um, and when I say leftists, I'm not talking about a specific group. I'm talking about,

you know, a hodgepodge of just absolute lunatics. I look at them as no different than the red Republicans and the anarchists and the libertarians of the Spanish, in the Spanish Civil War. And I look upon them as having the same morality, and I look upon them as being willing to do the same kind of violence and mass. Well, I mean, obviously the January 6th, you know, arrests and arrests, trials, that was violence. It was done on the color of law, but it was violence.

You certainly know of a violent if you were in a dungeon for a year and a half, two years, three years, and you were assaulted in prison, which many were. Or the FBI raided your house and dragged out in the middle, you know, early morning in your underwear in front of your family, which happened to Mark Hawk. Or if the FBI is visiting you because you're questioning your school board about the curriculum promoting sodomy or DEI or whatever. or other things at your school, which happened to a lot of parents. That's implied violence of us. When they, FBI should,

they're there to intimidate. But you're saying it could escalate because they're going to have to step it up. What you're saying is in order to win, the enemies have to be vanquished and dispersed, you know, and proverbially put up against the wall and taking care of, right? that's the way they look at it having to um the only way that they can end this they they're seeing

this as an existential threat i mean you can see some of the language it's being used by their their mouthpieces in the press and um the way i look at it is i mean the only way you stop these people is you're going to have to stop these people well they're they're they're They need to be dealt with. And there's only one way. I mean, you have options when it comes to dealing with them. And, you know, there's a very legal way of doing it. And then there's a very legal way of doing it.

And then there's the chaos way of doing it. You don't want the chaos way of doing it. Anybody who's read Last Crusade by Warren H. Carroll knows what the chaos way is. I'm a copy of it right here. Yeah. And that's one of the most, I read the whole book on my podcast, I see. I think it was one other book that I had to stop because I was getting emotional, stop reading in the middle of recording it because of just the contents of it.

But, yeah, I mean, I don't, I guess that is, if, if there's any real the black pill to me is I can survive anything I plan on surviving anything the black pill to me is that these people regain power and they want revenge and this time it's not going to be the FBI

it's not going to be the FBI coming to put you in jail and you're going to have judges laughing at you it's going to be the other thing and people can say that that's hyperbolic I know my history I know the French Revolution Warren Carroll has a book a book on the French Revolution as well

this is not yeah this we're in the Van Day did happen yeah you know and so there's precedent for these things and they do

obviously they believe in violence and they're dedicated to their cause, and they're obsessed with power. They've been nudged aside for the time being, but yeah, can they, obviously they've proven they cannot be trusted with power because not only are they terribly corrupt, is they also, they don't shy away from abusing it.

Yeah, and when you take into consideration, how basically they've turned certain groups into martyrs, you know, like trans people, like people who are directly being targeted by, by this new administration, saying, end up cutting off funding. You're one of two genders now,

you know, officially. You're still going to, have you know you're you're still going to have um schools and state states and everything but according to the federal which most people who you know unfortunately think that federal politics is everything when they should be really concentrating locally um these are people they have a groups now that they can fight in the name of and whenever you have you know when you have people who can put, you know,

the, you know, carry the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, of an oppressed class. I mean, just look at, um, I mean, we know that the, uh,

the, the, uh, the American war, our war wasn't about slavery. But it was, the, the, the,

the, the, that was used as propaganda to, you know, make, you know, get professors in the, in the north to,

to join in the fight. So, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, yeah. They have a history of taking the marginalized and raising a flag and saying we need to. And when it comes down to it, what do they say? The only good fascists is a dead fascist. That fascists are, you know, it's our communists are perfectly fine. It's perfectly fine for someone to believe in communism.

but if somebody is too right-wing, then, you know, we showed how we handle them at Nuremberg. We show how we handled them, you know, after the war. We showed how we handle them by alleging somebody did crimes in Germany and then putting them on trial in Israel. We show, they showed how they handle people who are two right-wing, that, you know, anyone's to the right of Jonah Goldberg. no you're not

that that that's too much for them that's too much for them so yeah yeah yeah yeah well um needs to be prepared for this

yeah people don't realize when you say well you have to fight you know Nazis or fascist you realize they consider you're a Nazi and a fascist because you don't want to chop your son's penis off or cut your daughter's breast off you know. Well, you're denying who they are, you're telling them that they don't exist. That's what they say.

That's what they honestly say. If people, I know it's very hard to listen to these people because they're, they're ridiculous. And even if you're listening to them, you dismiss them as ridiculous. But sometimes sit down and listen to what they're actually saying. Take it in. You don't have to take it seriously. You just have to understand it.

you just have to understand what they're saying and the consequences of belief it's interesting that don't trump has stopped using the term leftist and calls them lunatics well i mean which is a good way to you know it's either you know you're the sane versus the lunatics right the insane the same versus the insane and obviously the past few years the things have gotten so bizarre with the transgender agenda and the idea of identity policy is going as far as it did. They just went too far. And it's like, no one can, you know, can take this seriously. But they are very serious about promoting it.

I mean, look at all the funding. Look at all the money that USA was devoted to this. Look at all the federal programs. Look at Latisha James in New York is suing in federal court, I think, to stop the cutting off of funds to the, to the hospital up there or the order rather to cease all, you know, what they call gender-affirming care. And you have these wackos turn out, Muslim women, by the way, protesting, you know, you have that idiot. What was there? Cynthia Nixon, the actress who said that I have a son who's transgender, have a nephew who's transgender and an issue's transgender.

What are the odds? Do that, does that tell you something? It's like, what are the odds that you would have that? What are the odds that Meg, the actress Megan Fox, all of her kids are trans? Yeah, it's a clear obvious. It's a social contagion promoted by the higher-ups. You know, the Pritzker's, the governor of Illinois, you know, who it would be a great to see his fat ass arrested, you know.

And again, when Trump, he's locking horns with the courts over the border or funding, basically he can make the argument he's defending national security he's defending the country at this point especially when comes with some like the border issue which is clear it all depends on how you want to spin it but if the border's being overrun he is he is a duty he would have a duty to ignore the courts to bypass all to defend the border you can make that case you know and arrest anybody who's like a governor or a mayor who's involved in promoting sanctuary cities and these things right now it's the cutting off of funding i think pam bonbon suggested that people might be arrested. They're the attorney general.

Yeah, I think didn't Letitia James and the other guy up there, they've been barred from federal buildings or something like that. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, I heard there was something came down saying they couldn't go into federal buildings or they'd be arrested. Did she break down into a Negro or spiritual? That's another thing you see, right?

The performant, the performative aspect of it all. they still think they can invoke Selma, you know, Alabama or, you know, the bridge. And what was the bridge? They invoked the civil rights. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, the, what was the name of the bridge there? Oh, I can't remember. I can't remember.

I know where you're talking about. I can see it in my mind. I just can't remember the name. Yeah, you were talking about how it's basically a social contagion. And, you know, I think back to, I've heard Scott Adams say a couple times that, okay, so even if you, even if you don't like Israelis and you don't like Israel, you have to understand that Gaza, like the people in Gaza, they've been trained from an early age to hate them, to hate these people. So even if you're trying to find a solution that doesn't include, like, taking into consideration people's mental health, then what, okay, we're going to get rid. We're going to, we're going to send them to another country. Okay.

But they still hate, there are still hate there. You're going to, you know, we'll make it a two-state solution. Okay. There's still hate there. What do you do? Now, if it wasn't, if a certain group didn't have, you know, so much control over this country, I wouldn't even care about something like that. The reason I bring that up is let's bring it here.

What do you do with these people? These people are mentally ill. You know, academic agent, Nima Parvini, came up with this phrase a couple years ago where he said, you know, we can't call ourselves far right. we have to call ourselves sensible centrist. He goes, because what we believe is sensible. They're the crazy ones. And I, you know, I wasn't, I dismissed it at that time.

But it really does, and even if you don't like it, it makes sense when you think about it. Nothing you or I believe is radical. It's actually normal. You know, it was actually, as, you know, Evela said before the French Revolution, it was what any well-born man believed. And, you know, now it is considered to be radical. And they consider it to be more radical than, well, I'm going to transition my child at the age of like three, four, you know, five years old.

My child knew they were a different gender when they were four years old. But, you know, big balls, he's probably, 19 years old, he can't work in the government, even though he's like this, you know, savant, this computer savant. But that's, that's just, you know, saying, you know, what if the roles were reversed and calling out their hypocrisy? But this is a, this is a contagion. This is a mental illness on the part of people who are very unstable. How do you deal with that? it's the same thing as people who the Israelis and the gossans who hate each other who want to kill each other well the problem is in this country is i don't wake up every morning thinking about killing people

i don't wake up in every morning thinking radical thoughts i think rather normal thoughts but there's this other group over there who hates my normal thoughts. And their ideas and their beliefs are so insane and so out of line and so dangerous that when you think about them, you're like, man, there may be only one way to deal with this. And then you have to check yourself to make sure that you don't. don't turn into them. You don't become so possessed with it, but you also have to resign yourself

to the fact that this is the enemy, and if somebody else doesn't take care of them, if this regime that's taken charge now doesn't find a way to deal with them once and for all, we're just going to be dealing with them in the future. And how do we do that, Tim? if you were to capture an image of me right now sitting at my desk behind me you would not see a piece of paper charting the decline of the Jewish population in America you know what I'm referring to yeah potta is named Potock Mark Potok Southern Pobby Law Center at the time was working uh uh leasing with the FBI that shows us how the psychosis you know how crazy.

And he just presumes this is normal to work, to the decline of the ethnic white population in the United States. He's working to do that. And he's working with federal agencies to achieve this. And it's not only normal. It's not only normal. It's necessary. Yeah.

To just, you know, whiteness is oppression. Therefore, you have to destroy oppression. You have to destroy whiteness. That's no, like, Ignatia. He was a tangent professor. was it Harvard? Harvard? I don't know.

I haven't looked up his background. I'm not to you. But anyway, he, in course, then he... Oh, no old Nazi have, yeah. Yeah, Harvard. He was tenured, and he said that. You must destroy white. Now, do you destroy whiteness,

you have to destroy the culture, the identity of ethnic whites. The first step for doing that was basically was reducing him to being white, by the way. You know, going after the, I read a quote Oliver Cromwell, and he was frustrated with the Irish because they just simply wouldn't die

fast enough and says, you can't change these people because the more pressure you put on them, the more they pray to their God and their rosaries. And that's one thing they did that number on us. They denied so many Americans an ethnic, religious ethnic identity and left them very vulnerable to the corruption.

but all America has to offer. And it was just funny because Donald Trump, in many ways, as a flawed vessel as he is, is sort of, he embodies. He is his tumultuous career is symptomatic of a problem with the American identity itself. The mass psychosis that you were illustrating there, explaining there, so many crazy people. And maybe I create millions, legions of crazy people, diluted, really broken from reality. they are simply the the disarrotum of the victims of modernity

itself. So now we're getting so that's the problem. It's not just a, we're dealing with a deeply spiritual question here. How it's going to, and I think we're seeing how it's playing out politically. You know,

and it's going to be very imperfect politics. I mean, I like my theology to be perfect. My politics, I'm mature and realize. My politics can't be perfect. And I think we're seeing that play out in the Trump administration, the second administration, when you're seeing these conflicts with the, you know,

with the administrative state going after USAID, these apparent administrative actions regarding immigration, exposing corruption at the Pentagon, talking about reducing the Pentagon bunch by 50%. That gets a shot, right? That not only gets, that not only gets you shot, it gets your family threatened.

Yes. It gets, yeah. I remember somebody on Twitter back in, I think it was December of 2023. They had announced Boo Kelly had gotten reelected in El Salvador. And there was a picture of him with his family. And somebody retweeted the picture of him with his family and said, right now in the Pentagon. There are people looking at this picture dreaming about killing every one of them.

That's who we're dealing with. And then these are people with power, and they have the, and they control these roving bands of lunatics on the street who kill people. So it turns out with USAID, the more look in the funding, all that 2020 nonsense. Yep. Oh, it's going to go, but if they ever open the books on USAID and show everything, you're going to see it go back decades. You're going to see it go back.

You're going to stuff that we've forgotten to him at our age. We're the same age. Stuff that we've forgotten USAID was responsible for. Yeah. And all that violence, the media coverage, however it was spun, all that USAID was responsible for. And they fed it through various LLCs. It's a money laundering operation. This is what you do when you're smuggling drugs and trying to longer the money.

But a forensic investigation will expose it. And I think it is. The problem is once they expose it, these are crimes against the state, crimes against the American people. they can continue to be. There's got to be some accountability for it. And it's going to be hard to find a lot of it because, I mean, let's face it, money's fungible. Data Republican on Twitter has a search engine where you can search basically all

nonprofits and nonprofits, grants, NGOs, things like that. And you have to be careful with it. Like I used to be a part of a nonprofit and it shows up on there. Oh, yeah. And I know for, and I know for a fact that we've already, I know who was who was financing us and it wasn't USAID. It was like one person was financing us like 99%. The other was just from small donations. But it turns out the $218 and 37 cents I get on a substack is from USAID.

It'd be interesting to find out. So, yeah, I mean, but you, once they're. start going through there and you start seeing, okay, well, sure, there are some names there that you wonder, it says, because it'll break it down, it'll say, okay, this is how much person makes, how much came from taxpayer funds, how much came from grants, and taxpayer, it'll say zero. And you still wonder about that. Because like I said, money's fungible. It can go through so, it can pass through 15 different, 15 different, 15 different, you know,

proxies before it hits whoever it hits and it looks like it came from you know a private individual in the end and we know now we know that there were there were news outlets they were getting paid to do this and I mean news outlets get paid to promote things openly I mean if you watch meet the press or any of the Sunday morning things you'll see like commercials for Boeing. Okay. Who's watching Meet the Press is either in the, you know, when I watch

it, I'm not thinking, I need to buy a 737. Well, definitely don't want to buy a 737. And I don't want to buy missiles. So who is this for? Oh. Oh, and what about the pharma ads? Who are these all these pharma ads for? Oh, oh, this is to pay off the news stations so they don't report on these things.

So they don't talk about the military industrial complex. Or when they do talk about the military and industrial complex, Rand Paul brings it up and Wolf Blitzer goes, do you know how many people would lose their jobs? If you, you know, if we started closing, if we started addressing this subject, Senator? Or did you see the stocks drop on Lucky Martin and when Trump floated that idea of cutting the budget?

Yeah. And always, I mean, it's always got. to happen and you know i i don't know what the i've i've only been paying attention to a very narrow um set of stocks that you know i'm looking at like forward forward looking at stuff that that really exists right now but i mean i don't know what pharma stocks did when when rfk junior got was confirmed. But I would think that if RFK Jr. does what he says he's going to do,

if he does 75% of he does half of what he says he's going to do, pharma is going to take a massive hit. And, you know, I'm here for it. I'm looking forward to it. Might even short some stocks in order, you know, when the time comes. But when you're trying to reform a system, as bad as our as corrupt as economic system, political system, the GDP is going to have to take a

hit. I mean, you're not going to get growth because we haven't been getting growth, really, we've gotten statistical growth. But obviously, if you look at how the wealth's been distributed, the concentration of wealth. And then by that, the frustration of power in our society, it's obviously gone on the wrong direction. It simply doesn't support the idea of America being a democratic, meritocratic, you know, broad middle class society.

It's become an oligarchic, top heavy system, which is inherently unstable. Sure. And some people can say, you know, with having a musket ahead of this, no one has benefited from it more than him,

you know, with contracts and things like that. And, um, sure. I mean, all 100% true. Um, who's going to talk?

Who's going to be effective, uh, uh, you know, some employee at some working, some cubicle or some owner or small business. No, it's going to have to be influential, powerful people that deal with this. You're not going to get a storming of the Winter Palace, right?

You're not going to get, that didn't happen anyway, right? That was just a brochure propaganda film. You show these grand gestures, if you will, the revolution. That's some of the black pillars out there because they're not getting the revolution, everything is controlled and it doesn't mean anything. And they're saying, sure, you get a little of what you want here. Things may get better here. They may prolong it a little bit by another century.

Isn't that politics? That's politics. Yeah, that's politics. I mean, this side of paradise, you don't get that. I mean, they're not living in reality at some point. I mean, it was one of the reasons I stopped being a libertarian and talking about libertarianism. and actually started going after it is because of the purity spiraling, is there was the perfect, the perfect was always the enemy of the good.

And then I come on over, you know, to this side of things. And I realize that it's the same thing over here. And when you have an ideology, I mean, there's no, ideology doesn't exist, it's power. You have personal ideology that you live your life by. But it's just power. And it's defeating your enemies. And that's, that's all it is, is rewarding your friends. And, you know, what do they say?

Liberty for my friends, the law for my enemies. That's what, that's what it is. That's all you can hope for. You're not going to ever get your perfect little thing. It just isn't going to happen. We're not perfect people. You're not, I'm not a perfect person. And then if you get together with, if I get together with a whole bunch of other people,

now there's, what, 15 imperfect people. things are not going to go well. And if we expect things to be perfect, then we're just going to be warring and at each other's throats. Oh, am I describing social media at all? Whereas like, you don't talk about the Jews enough. Really? I don't?

Me? You're talking about me? Oh, okay. Why? Because I realize that with Trump in office, Jews are going to, you know, there are certain factions of Jewish power that are going to get their way. It's just, anyone who is in there that was going to happen because our guys aren't getting elected. Because, you know, it doesn't seem like we can ever get one of our guys to run for

office without them spurging out and saying stupid shit or carrying tiki torches. I mean, really? Yeah. Look, I know I'm never going to go elected. I've said stuff. There's hours and hours of me spewing, you know, spewing things that make me unelectable. I'm never going to get elected to anything. Maybe locally because they like me. You know, my neighbor's like me. A certain precinct in Idaho or something.

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, if you think you're going to get elected by, you know, going out there and just screaming about the Jews and calling everybody who disagrees with you a Jew I'm sorry you're just a Spurge

and there's there's a reason why they don't call you a Jew they say you just work for them oh yeah yeah yeah I mean you have that JD Vance's speech at Munich

right and then you have Trump calling to the aunt Tim, Tim, he's married to an Indian. He's friends with Peter Thiel. Come on. Andy, where's eyeliner?

Yeah. Do you know when he was in college, he wants, he wants, like, put on drag at like a party? Oh, no. Yeah, everyone who comes at me with, like, the JD Van stuff, I'm going, okay, can you show me something you disagree with since he's become a Catholic? That doesn't happen. it's all fake yeah yeah he's just he's is he playing a political game peter tiel hasn't peter tiel has him peter jill has him playing peter jose of course he's playing a political game you have to play a political game he's a politician elected he can't get elected

i mean but that speech now when he talks about such a ship and you know immigration in europe and calling out the all these bureaucrats and politicians who he said you you're treating your people like the enemy your problem your threat isn't russia he's pretty much said it's the governments in Western Europe. Now, he didn't go on and talk about all the censorship of the United States, which is carried out a little differently. I understand that. And also you have Trump.

It's like you were thinking it was Ramsey Paul, he said. You have Trump, who's literally Hitler, proposing to meet with Putin, who's literally Hitler. What happens when Hitler appeases Hitler? Mind-blown. I mean. Yeah, it's just, I mean, that's what it, that's all it is now is, okay, well, we're just going to, well, it's not working. It's not working.

And it almost, if you wanted to interpret that another way, it's like, well, we're dealing, we have tons of problems in the United States. and we're trying to work them out. It's not going to be perfect, but we're trying to work them out. Did you see the Steve Bannon interview about that? No, I didn't. Now, Steve Bannon, obviously, a flawed character. But he was talking about Trump, you have this agenda, which is agenda.

He said that basically the Trump administration is trying to organize what they call hemispherism, which is going back to Monroe Doctrine, spheres of influence, making, you know, basically working it out with China, extricating United States from Europe, working out with Russia, and dealing with our hemisphere. And, of course, what that involves it again is a reshoring, sort of building up a tariff system, getting rid of maybe income tax. This is revolutionary stuff, but, you know, this is, and he's saying this is, and you see Marco Ruby you're talking about something. Now, Marco Rubio was always kind of a laughable character.

Then he stepped as a senator because he just says Neerocrine Stoge, right? Or a Jewish stooge. Then he steps in his position of Secretary of State and he's making sense about Ukraine. Not getting in the native. This is crazy. He's making cogent remarks that makes sense. The same thing with P.K. Seth, right? He's just

lunatic Zionist. He wants to build the Third Temple and bring on the Antichrist. But all of a sudden he gets in this position and he's carrying out these sensible reforms in the Pentagon. There was an interview, I think you with Tucker Carlson and the guy, was he at the, from the American conservative?

Yeah, the American conservative. Oh, God, I can't remember his name right now. Mills? Mills. Yeah, Kurt Mills. Yeah. I followed him on Twitter and actually followed me back. I wonder if he has unfollowed since then.

But he was talking about it, if you look at the people that Hague Seth and some of these people surround themselves in, they're very skeptical. one thing, very skeptical of Israel and Zionists and all that. And so he was suggesting that despite Hakes' sort of lunatic remarks regarding the Third Temple, is that he's had sort of a change of heart about some of these things in the past few years, which was promising because it gets kind of like, you have to realize these people, when they put in these slots, they're human beings.

And they do have changes. their views do change. They're not just cogs. Even billionaires. Yeah. We've seen billionaires change. Now, people can say, well, that's just in their self-interest. Okay, does their self-interest at all align with yours?

Maybe a little bit. Is it, I mean, would you rather, if they, if there aligns with ours a little bit, I mean, was the old regime, the Biden regime, the Kamala Harris regime, was there any hope. Oh, no. But, you know, if we, if we, you know, like we were celebrating the, you know, J6 people getting out of jail, being led out of jail and being pardoned. And people are like, well, no, it's better to keep them in there because, you know, you know, look what happened when Hitler went to jail. I'm like, when Hitler went to jail, he became de-radicalized and realized he, de-radicalized in the sense that he realized, I have to do this legitimately and

I have to get elected. I have to be appointed to something. yeah it's like you think you think boomers first of all this is basically populism which doesn't work it's always elites that's right right he went from the beer hall putch storming the barricades if you will get arrested oh i have to put on a coat and tie and play the political game you're right yes yeah so by the way i i make that observation without yeah i'm not warning you know that that I'm just making the observation in order to carry out whatever reforms he deemed necessary. In a response to the turmoil of Weimar, Germany, he had to pursue legitimate political path to power, which he did pursue and he did achieve, by the way. Correct. And that's the only way it's going to happen.

So, you know, one of those, one of the things that, you know, drove me crazy, like I was saying before, one of the things that drove me crazy was, you know, I left libertarianism because it was just this whole purity spiral. and then I get over here and it says over to wherever I am and the people who listen to me and not all of them. I mean, as a matter of fact, the overwhelming majority are actually really good people who want to hear logical, realistic, realpolitik. But then you just have people who are like, well, I can't deal with real politics because Jews still exist. And they always will until they convert. But that's theology.

My theology is perfect. My politics is practical. And I need to practice discretion and prudence to somehow bridge the two. And that's where you have to be an adult. And then also pray daily. Yeah. I mean, that's. A rosary a day will really start setting you straight.

Yes. And you keep, I mean, and so, you know, it's good that they're in prison. We'll speak for yourself. Yeah. not. I mean, the person who said, the person who says that has no one. If you say that you have no one. Same thing with the accelerationist, right?

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, you know, I would love to see the government just, just fall. Okay, are you ready to take care of your grandparents and your great grandparents? Oh, well, you know, we're going to have Bitcoin. Oh, are you? Or we're going to, you know, we'll, I, I want to assist. Everybody's going to want to be a national socialist.

If the government just fell apart tomorrow, everybody's going to want to be a national socialist. I want the system to collapse, utterly collapsed, utter anarchy, and make sure that my mother-in-law and father-in-law have their pensions, so I don't have to take care of. You know,

it goes back to... Think it through. Just think it through. I mean... It goes back to Patrick Danine talking about when people, you know, people say,

there was no liberty before. or, you know, the Enlightenment or, it's like, no, there was. It was, but it had to, it had more to deal with responsibility. What the Enlightenment did was it destroyed the idea of liberty being tied to responsibility. Yeah, duties and rights, right? Rights and duties, right? Exactly. Yeah, no best oblige, all the responsibilities.

And the idea that there was a God looking at you, so you better do. We're looking everything. So, yeah, I mean, so I said it have you an hour, so I'm not going to keep any longer. I think kind of we recovered it. We didn't get kind of a sense of your idea of what was going on in the first 28 days of the Trump administration, which has been more encouraging and certainly more interesting than I think most expected, which is probably upsetting a lot of people. They don't know how to, you know, who wants to have their paradigm smashed, you know, whether it's some people. Well, I mean, also some people are so used to. losing, they can't win.

They won't take a win, or they won't be able to recognize, let's put it this way, they won't be able to recognize a win. Yeah, there's that thing where Trump administration actually said something, cut off aid to South Africa because of his treatment of the white South Africans. I think they referred to them a certain class or group of people who didn't say whites, per se. But if we know what they were talking about, particularly the farmers was going on there, they're cutting off aid to South Africa because of the violation of people's civil liberties,

there. And then, of course, what's listed one of the reasons is South Africa's criticism of Israel, some people say, well, there you go. It's completely illegitimate because they had to, they had to mention Israel, you know. Well, I mean, if, if whites in South Africa are benefit by, I don't know, yeah, I was saying recently that somebody with a whole bunch of money could hire, like, like they did in Sierra Leone, you know, they hired executive outcome. and executive outcome went in there and just like demolished the lunatics. That could happen. We'll get somebody could do that.

You know, we have people who are, I've been talking about this a lot lately, trying to mention as much as possible. You know, the left funds and gives money and patronage networks to their radicals and the right, people on the right cancel theirs. you know so you there are people who could fund privately I'll sound like a libertarian for five seconds privately fund solving that problem in South Africa letters of marks from reprisal

he's so beautiful wouldn't it some nice Heinz helicopters coming in there just like in Sierra Leone Eric Prince is you listening you can get that yeah what like 1200 committed mercenish year only just clear government there oh they've they've done it before uh well obviously in USA aid of course we started a discussion talking about USA they boast that they were they were pivotal in bringing down the apartheid regime in South Africa yeah that's something to brag about you're welcome yeah yeah

Like, you just move on. That's progressivism, though. They just move on, don't look back, right? The consequences are destruction that they reap, and then they move on and say, you're welcome, and just move on. It never ends. Chaos is just, uh, chaos is just another opportunity for people to say that they need them for something.

Mm-hmm. So, well, Pete, I'm going to let you go. Um, I know you have something else to do tonight. So, uh, one, thank you for coming back on the show. Well, I appreciate it, Tim, anytime. And have you on again soon. Yeah, just send me a note. I'm sorry we can work something out.

Take it easy. Take care. Thank you. Good night. Bye-bye.