The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on the Jeremy Ryan Slate Show

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

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the genie back into the bottle? Can it be done and where is it going? All that and more. Stay tuned. Welcome back to the Jeremy Ryan Slate show. I am your host, Jeremy Ryan Slate, the CEO and co-founder of Command Your Brand. We help our clients to get their messages out. in the right places and the most relevant podcast, you can check us out over at command your brand.com or grab our free white paper so you don't let your empire decline and fall like Rome over at command your empire.com.

And before we jump into this conversation, we'll like this video, leave his comment and smash a subscribe button, support liberty, freedom, and want to build a better future. And I'm excited about the conversation we're going to have today. I had the pleasure of being on today's guest

show a bit ago as we kind of started talking about the Roman Empire and it's been kind of a fun and interesting year. And we're going to dive into some really important issues around immigration and some other things as well. So Peter Cunonez, thanks for hanging out on me today, man. Thanks for inviting me on. I appreciate it. You've actually been on twice. You've been on the show's twice? Oh, geez, man. I didn't realize that was that cool. My parents don't even let me on twice. The first time was actually we talked about immigration and how it affected the Roman Empire. But I think now that we've gotten beyond and Trump's been elected, I think there's a lot more to dive into and the other reaction that we've seen following his election and some of the things that he's tried to do. So for people that may not be familiar with you and what you do, man, just tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do, where we can find you.

This is my eighth year podcasting, started in July of 2017. It's called The Free Man Beyond the Wall podcast back then, and I decidedly libertarian, a narco-capitalist, bent. I had been questioning those priors around 2019, and when COVID hit, pretty much decided that nobody, that the majority of people, the overwhelming majority of people in all ages, do not want liberty. to be told what to do. So I started looking upon libertarianism and constitutionalism and even

like a lot of the founding principles as, well, I mean, that's for some people, it's for, it's for an elite, but everybody else wants to be told what to do. And libertarians are like, we just want to be left alone. So I basically decided to delve into history and look at more realist kind of politics, the Italian elite school. people like James Burnham, and then going back, then starting to get into the classics, more Catholic history, European history of Thomas Aquinas. And coming forward, I just started concentrating more on history, more on philosophy, and revisionist history, which is, I think, something that is becoming very popular.

and you can see that by there are factions, especially on the quote unquote right that are calling revisionist history now woke. So, yeah, that's, I'm one of those, I'm one of those people that they call the woke right. And I, you know, it's a ridiculous pejorative. There are much worse things. There are much better things you could call me

that are historical pejoratives. but, you know, it's still funny. You know the thing that's interesting, though, is there's been a weird, like, cycle of action with this, I guess, second Trump election, right? It was a very overwhelming victory, right? That's what we saw initially. And then there's been kind of this very strange division on the right, like you were just alluding to. And it kind of seems like the power base. is really disappearing in a lot of ways that that makes sense, where it's kind of hard to follow,

well, what is the correct narrative here? Where are we going with things? And I've actually, frankly, I don't know about you, I found it hard to follow, are we actually even doing? That's been the hard thing for me to kind of take a look at. What have you looked at as we've kind of come into the second term? Well, to me, coming in, the first thing that I wanted to see was the January 6th tourist pardoned completely. And we got that. That was really good. I wanted to see things like USAID addressed.

Now, that's one of those things where it's like, I think the power of it was handed over to the State Department, and they haven't really said what they're doing with it. So that's a question. Although we do see there are certain, we have reports that there are certain offices that were closed because their funding disappeared, and most people assume that has to do with USAID,

and hopefully it is. But it was always about immigration. It was, as some people pointed out, I think I can't remember the name of the account on Twitter, but someone posted last week, and it's probably the best summary of immigration when it comes to this regime is a Democrat gets elected,

and they let in 15, million illegal immigrants undocumented don't know where they are some of them you do know where they are they make them legal in ways that is against any way of part of the law um so they technically are legal but according to the law they're illegal and then a republican gets in and they don't they are stale you know just stalled in doing anything whether it's by activist judges i mean third i think i read something about almost half of the judges in the district court weren't even born in the United States. And you're basically seeing, yeah, I mean, I think about my, you know, my, my great grandparents came here in 1910, from Poland. And I'm thinking, if they asked my great

granddad, if he, you know, you want to be a judge, he'd be like, no. He'd be like, no, I just got here. I need to get my feet on the ground. Who am I to tell these people? Who am I to judge these people. So, you know, not only do you have to look at what, who the regime puts in charge, but you also have to look at the character of somebody who, who wasn't born here, who would want that position, won a position of power over people that they have really no connection to, um, ethnically or, um, you know, philosophically. And so, you know, if a Republican gets in, and then they can't get rid of the 15 million, and then a Democrat gets picked in,

and they let it another 10 million. And we don't have, after a while, the country is completely replaced. The, or it's overcrowded, and, you know, that argument can be made.

I don't like the overcrowding argument. I do think the overcrowding argument definitely goes towards home prices and goes towards prices in general, but you're just basically importing people where there was a time when people came here that they really integrated. now you have people who come here who their whole purpose of coming here is to send money home

is to send money back to where they go and that's not taxed and it just doesn't seem i mean there are there's a lot more you can talk about with immigration especially um the immigration that we're we're experiencing. But just the fact that if this is a good thing, this is something that's going to make the line go up, make a line go up when it comes to GDP, this is something that's going to increase our tax base. Well, basically, if you're making those arguments,

then we don't live in a country. We live in a bank. We're just a gigantic bank. We're just a gigantic financial institution. And if we're just a gigantic financial institution, financial institutions fall all the time. So it's just a matter of time. And historically, when you look at countries, when you look at policies, they survive because the people are tight-knit and they have something in common

and they have a common goal and they actually share a common language, common lineage, common blood in most cases. and we were just fat I mean we're put it this I don't know if it's reversible at this point I mean I I don't know if it's reversible because

you could support 30 million people who don't belong here and you're still not fixing the philosophy you're still not eliminating the philosophy that brought them here so you know I think

we're seriously at a crossroads and, you know, really when it comes down to it now, it's just a matter of how do you mitigate that? How do you continue to live? And how do you, how do you live within a polity that's just basically become financialized? There's nothing social about it anymore. I know even as well, Peter, I was talking to my wife about this yesterday is if you look at it, there's also some very, I think that the point you hit on about the judiciary is, is really important. And you mentioned judges because you even look at in Brazil, right? One of the big ways they've handled things in Brazil is through the judiciary. And the issue that we're

dealing with here is we've seen almost like a judicial coup in a lot of ways, right? Like the executive decides this is the policy we're going to do or the Congress decides this is the policy we're going to have and the judiciary just decides, no, we're not going to do that or we're not going to follow that policy. And then I don't know the full background of this, but there was a judge that was arrested, was it in Ohio or something like that last week. Wisconsin. Wisconsin, there we go. Thank you. I knew it was someplace in the central. And people were crying out about, oh, you know, well, Trump is arresting judges now. And they seem to forget, I guess, what happened to Trump and many Republicans during the Biden administration, which was way worse,

but this person was actually breaking the law as it relates to immigration in some ways. So I guess the question I would have is it seems like there's a cultural problem as it relates to the judiciary, if that makes sense. And I'm curious how you've viewed that and how this relates to this whole situation we're dealing with at the moment.

Well, I mean, I think we're, I think we're at one of the, historical times that unfortunately you would consider to be, you'd have to use a term revolutionary. I spent last month I spent eight days in El Salvador. And El Salvador, 15 years ago was the murder capital of the world. And I felt safer in San Salvador, their capital city walking around with my wife, then I do walking in New York City or walking in Atlanta. Yeah. And he took revolutionary measures.

And one of the things he did if you go and read, people have done, they've tried to keep this out of the press exactly how he, how he did this. But, you know, there are some substackers out there who have detailed diaries of how, you know, O'Kelly clean it up. But one of the first things he did was he had to basically get rid of all of these activist judges. And in some ways, sometimes he walked into meetings with the military and said, you're all fired. You all do not have a job anymore. And he's cleaned his act up. When you go there, people, you talk to people, you talk to normal people, they're just having. a good time, partying on the streets, and there's a presence of force there. They have some

civil guard, they have military, but at this point, it's more just now a show, a show of force to be like, don't even try it. But he had to go above and beyond. And I think that what the answer to that, if you started doing that here, the response you would get was, that you're ignoring the Constitution. I'm sorry, these things are done. The Constitution stopped mattering 20 million illegals ago. You, one side cannot absolutely destroy everything that the country was founded upon. And then when someone tries to fix it, say, oh, you're destroying the Constitution.

But it's the same way, Peter, they try to have it both ways, though, as well, right? Like, there's, there's the, they'll use the argument of you're destroying the constitution, but then they'll also make the argument if it, if they don't feel it can be used to support their actions that, well, we need a new document. This document is old and or it's a living, breathing document, right? So it's, it's, it seems like this thing is supposed to be rigid, but they use it very flexibly depending on, you know, what they're trying to accomplish. I apologize for interrupting you, but I just want to add that there. No, no, not at all. The, well, yeah, that whole thing. I mean, the Constitution is, sure, the Constitution was made to be amended, but the Constitution, also in

Article 2 vested all power to the executive. Is it all the powers that are listed here to the executive? And that hasn't been used since basically FDR. FDR was a king. If you look at the amount of, I always say this. I say that I think FDR did three to four times the amount of executive orders said any other president and people would be like, oh, well, you know, he served four terms. It's like, this was all in like the first term and a half. So, yeah, he basically, FDR restructured. The New Deal movement was basically a revolution. It was a turning of the regime.

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you will get pushback because basically everything's been rewritten. And if you try to say, oh, well, this thing from the 18, this court case from the 1840s, well, we had slavery then. You have stuff like that where it's just like, well, none of that, it wasn't until the New Deal regime and even more so, the civil rights regime of 1964. 1965, that we really became a country because now everyone was included. Now everyone's included. Well, how are we doing since then? How's that worked out? And I just don't, the constitutional

arguments just don't stand up anymore. And I know that conservatives who, you know, we can argue this all day long, I'm that you're not going to change my mind, they're leftists. They're liberals. liberals are leftists it comes from the front it comes from France um pro dune prudun and bastiots sat on the same side the left side in the french in the french parliament that's where we get left and

right from they're leftists and they believe in liberalism liberalism is what brought us here liberalism is basically is oh one team if one team plays for keeps the other team yeah if the other

team doesn't play for keeps two, then that team dominates that team. The, you know, the group that wants, the person that wants to just be left alone is always going to be dominated by the person who wants to rule over them if they're given the power, if they have the power. And that's another thing is, you know, the whole thing about, oh, you know, if the Republicans should be careful about the power that they're using because that will just be used against them. What of this regime? I mean, I consider Republicans and Democrats

be basically the same thing. It's all the regime. And you can see that when they vote. A friend of mine says, you know, you have the stupid, you have the stupid side, which is Republicans. You have the evil side,

which is Democrats. Every once in a while, they get together and they vote on the same thing, which is both evil and stupid. Well, that's when you, you realize that this is basically all one team and you're basically, you're allowed to, you know, you're allowed to what did I think Chomsky talked about it, where you, it's a box and they put a whole bunch of things in this box. And those are the things you're allowed to

argue over. But the things outside of the box, you're not allowed to argue over. You have to be able to, you're going to agree on those. So, I mean, what is the Constitution anymore? It doesn't unless anybody enforces it, unless anybody uses it. And I had somebody, I know a lawyer who told me they used to use a constitution in court all the time. And they were like the only lawyer they knew who would actually court the Constitution in time. And it actually worked most of the time when they actually used it. Nobody uses it anymore. I mean, we had a Supreme Court justice.

The last Supreme Court justice, I mean, didn't know what was in Article 2. So it's like, okay, what are we doing here? the country's being flooded. Springfield, Ohio is basically destroyed forever. There are cities all over this country that are basically destroyed forever. What? The Constitution, because of the Constitution, we can't fix that?

No, I think if you're using the Constitution as some kind of excuse to allow your destruction, then the Constitution is there's something wrong with the Constitution. or you're using it or it's just there as an excuse for whoever needs to wield power

over somebody else. Because most of the time when people are screaming the Constitution, the outcome usually is against the Constitution. So I think these courts, all these courts seem to be since the New Deal regime is some kind of

Talmudic network to circumvent the Constitution and make argument that it doesn't mean this and it doesn't mean that and we can do whatever we want. Where does that come from them? Because if you look at it, you know, there's, there's, I'm trying to remember, I've listened to a podcast not too long ago that kind of looked at, I think it was like Earl Warren and some other things after this, how they looked at how judicial activism changed dramatically. And I guess when you look at it, is it post-New

deal is at 1960s, when did the viewpoint of how a judge handled these things changed, right? Because if you look at that, that is what we're seeing as we're seeing the furthest extent of judicial activism. Well, I think the New Deal, the New Deal set up that, so the best way I've ever heard it described is that FDR had the power of a king. Every bit of power that the government had, he wielded. He drew to himself. And normally when you have a king, what does the king do?

He prepares to the next person so that they can wield that power as well, usually a son or a daughter. But I mean in this case, we have, oh, so precious democracy. Well, he didn't pass it to anybody. So what it looks like when you look back in history is that all of that power, when he left, went down into all of the departments that were created. So what you have is you have the creation of the deep state. You have the creation of the permanent,

I mean, and deep state sounds nefarious. It's just an executive body. It's just like a permanent state. People who they're not alone. It's the ones that don't change election to election. They're just, this is their job. Yeah, yeah. And their job is to perpetuate the state.

to make sure the state keeps doing what it's doing. So the best way you can do that is to take control of the process of choosing judges and have as much influence around the president to appoint judges who will perpetuate this executive, this, well, better managerial state. That's what the term James Burnham used, the managerial revolution, the managerial state. So you just have this permanent state of managers who have no interest once they leave in whether the state, they made the state better, they made their department better, they made governance in this country better than it was. And so they just make it so that they always have a job while they're, while they're, while they. They want a job.

And then the next person gets to piggy back off of that. And that's where we're at now. And I heard rumblings pretty clearly that the people who were surrounding Trump for this election were people who were aware of that, who were aware of the manager of Revolution, who had read James Burnham and read different people who have written on this, and that they were going to attempt to try to dismantle it as much as possible. The problem is, is that, I mean, you're talking about something that has entrenched itself for 100 years. And if you have 100 years to plant roots, and those roots get deep, and they get, you know,

and these are sentient roots, these are roots that are, that will fight back, that know how to fight back, that know how to hide, that know how to destroy the information, that they, that they, that, the information that can take them down. So, you know, I don't really know that I have much faith that the manager, that this managerial regime will be, you know, will be taken down. Now, the other thing that a group can do if they take power

is they can try and take that managerial power and wield it themselves. But they always end up wielding it for the, they're always going to succumb to the same impulses to perpetuate itself, not to reduce themselves, not to destroy it, not to,

that's why I think you hear Doge go, we're going to get rid of two, get rid of two trillion, and then it's like, oh, no, we're going to get rid of $500 billion. Oh, no, we're yet. And you just hear it, to me, that just says, we didn't know it went this deep. We didn't know it went this deep and we're, you know, we don't know that we can do this.

And, and that's, that's the struggle when I look at it and I said, to me, it feels like, you know, we came out of the gate hot and it starts to feel like we're losing because we're reducing it. We're seeing, and, you know, once again, I don't know how big of a fan I am of Pete Heggseth, but we see like the defense department is suddenly seem like they're turning on him and in an attempt to push him out. And so it does seem like the barriers are really showing themselves. And you start to question, well, can this team, get this done or is it too entrenched and just so i can correct myself from a few minutes ago just because i was trying to remember where this was related to um the the podcast i listened to was uh was one glenbeck it did like last july um and it was about uh three supreme court justices under fdr uh oliver wendell wendell hums louis brandice and felix frankfurter um so if you if people get a chance to to check that out like that really explains a lot of how the judiciary got where it comes That's the demonic father, son, and holy ghost right there.

It's like the inversion of the Trinity right there. Yeah, I just don't know that this can be fixed. The one thing, I guess the one place that I'm looking at right now, sure, there can still be some deportations, but, I mean, when you really look at it, we don't really know for sure how many people are in this country that don't belong here. I think it could be 40 or 50 million.

I don't disagree with you. If that's true, it's like, you need the will to do that. I don't know that anybody has the will to do that. So the one thing that I do see them doing through things that I see from Scott Besant, I've been tracking Jerome Powell at the Fed for a couple years now because of my friend Tom Luongo.

and it looks like they've, like Powell and Besant and a couple of other people are really intent on strengthening the dollar, strengthening the American economy. There have been some things that I don't want to really want to get into because we'll just, it's rabbit trail after rabbit trail. But basically, yeah, Powell's gone to war on the euro and, you know, the World Economic Forum. And he's basically done more to weaken the euro and weaken the British pound than anyone in history. And yeah, he just sees them. That's interesting because publicly I feel like Powell gets a lot of, he gets a lot of grief publicly. It's a KFib.

It's KFab. Bissent last week said last week, I think he let it slip that he has lunch with Powell every Monday. Wow. That's interesting. It's K-Fib. What does that term mean? I haven't heard that term before. It's used for wrestling, professional wrestling.

Like, it's fake. Like, the, the opponents are, you know, have a fake kind of thing going where you're... Oh, okay. So kind of like the storyline. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So Powell has been doing this, and he's done amazing things.

I mean, just our interest rate, the interest rate, rates on our loans used to be dictated by London, by the city of London. He basically shut that down and now it's dictated out of Chicago. I mean, he's done wonderful things. So the one thing that I'm really hoping for and the thing that I'm following the most is that we really fixed the financial system here. Now, that sounds completely antithetical to what I talked about in the beginning, where I said we're seen as a bank.

were completely financialized. But the way I look at it is, if this thing can't be fixed, then I want to be able to, I want myself and the people I care about and the people who, you know, share my values to be as prosperous as possible for the future. Because I don't see the future as being, yeah, I see it as we're, I'm not saying that there's going to be like a civil war that's going to like cover the whole country, but I see violence in the future. I mean, we saw it in 2020. We've seen it in the past. We've seen insane violence. I mean, Seattle, 1999, we have insane people that are ready to commit revolutionary

violence in this country. And I think that's going to- We've also seen it historically as well, you know, whether it's, you know, the brown shirts before before kind of the Nazi revolution and I don't know if you'd call it revolution, but it was more like a gradual changeover in Germany. There's a great. book called In the Garden of Beasts. I don't know if you read it, but it details the 10 years of life of the American ambassador to Germany and what his life was like and how he kind of gradually sees a lot of these things take over. So we have kind of that background of evidence. You could go back even further. And I know I've kind of beat the kind of beat this thing to death, but you look at

even the Western Roman Empire when it, when it fell in 476, there was nothing left to fall, right? It had, you know, 410, when Allerick sacks Rome, there's really nothing left to sack at that point in time. The 200s and 300s, it kind of destroyed what it meant to be Roman and have Rome, but this comes down to two things, right? It comes down to a lack of strong currency, 15,000 percent inflation by 284 AD. and then you also have Rome had been using foreigners to fight wars for years, right? So then you would have this idea of, well, if Rome can't pay me, then I'll go back to the Visigoths or the Ostrogoths or whatever it might be and we'll get Rome to give us what we want.

And the thing you have to look at is if you don't handle economics, if you don't handle currency, especially with all these people here that you don't know, do they really buy into the system anyway, once there's no money, they have no reason to respect whatever's left of the system. Does that make sense? Sure. Yeah, and I don't believe the history repeats itself, but I believe it's in, it goes in cycles, more Hegelian than anything else. But I also don't believe that all revolutionary violence is wrong. Sometimes you need revolutionary violence. And, you know, it's just a matter of if I think the revolution, you know, when you compare the, you, when you compare the, the revolution in this country and the revolution in France, a lot of people, a lot of people are like, oh, yeah, I'd much rather have the revolutionary violence here. But it was violence. It was, you know, it was not, it wasn't at the level of what happened in France, but it was still violent. It was

bloody. People died. You know, there were terrorist acts committed. I mean, there was a lot of things were done. We can't get past that. Yes. But, you know, I mean, I look at Spanish Civil War, and that's the one I think that probably relates the most to us, because the Spanish Civil War, what the Republicans, quote-unquote, Republicans who sided with the anarchists and sided with the left libertarians and sided with the communists did, was they sought to destroy the Catholic Church. and that's what I see here is I see it's a just a basic kind of secular humanist impulse by with people who are inspired by the same people who are inspired by in the Spanish Civil War and even even in the Russian Revolution the Russian Civil War that the,

they're the ones who are looking for violence. here and they're the ones who are willing to kill and they're the ones who are willing to they do not care about human life and so i mean i see that in our future i do i mean people say oh that's impossible it's like oh you know you're too fat you can't even that doesn't matter that doesn't I mean, it's just look at the, look at the, any kind of revolutionary activity that happened in the 20th century. 60 year olds, you know, 12 year olds, I mean, when it happens, everyone's involved. I think it'd be more localized here. It would just be certain areas, but I think it's happening.

So, to head to circle back as a terrible former press secretary, sorry, used to say, we, you know, I'm hoping the fact. I just got that. I'm sorry. I'm a little slow on the uptake, Peter. I apologize. That's all right. I do this for a living. I'm hoping the financial gets fixed, and especially for the next four years, four to eight years, maybe 12 years, so that the people that I care about and the people that mean the most to me and the people I share values with and the people that I collectivize with and that I make plans for the future with that we can make, we can acquire. property and we can set ourselves up to best weather this and to survive it because people will survive it. And the people who survive it the best are the ones that can come out on the other side actually having the most influence and even being in charge. And now a word from our

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Get up to 15% off select products. Support the wellness company and help support this show. Thanks again. So where do you think that goes then? In terms of, you know, we've seen a lot of these policy changes. You mentioned a lot of what Jerome Powell has been doing. You know, it's done damage to the euro and to the British pound and things like that. So, but where does this, in order to be successful, where does this have to go?

It really has to go to isolationism in the immediate. We need to not worry about what Israel is doing. We need to not worry about what's going on in Ukraine. We need to not worry about what's going on in Europe. If you pay attention to Europe and you really are somebody who watches the European Union meetings and reads their briefings and stuff like that. There are enemy. On this show, we like to call the EU Starfleet Command.

It just makes it a little bit more funny. But anyway, yeah. The Grand Queen Ursula von der Leyen over there. There are enemy. I mean they've declared us. That doesn't mean that every Brits are enemy. That doesn't mean every Germans are enemy. But the leaders that they've allowed to take charge,

there are enemy. So I don't know what that looks like. I don't know, I don't see that as a hot war kind of thing, but really the thing that I see right now that's most important is we have to get our manufacturing back if we're going to make it in the short term. And, you know, that's something needs to be done about China. And I don't want war with China. That's just ridiculous. It's stupid. But I've heard from people that I know who know people who have lunch with presidents and have dinner with presidents.

And they're saying that they're expecting some kind of conflict that could possibly be armed by the end of the year with China. I would tend to think that would start on the seas, maybe a couple ships firing at each other, something like China. China's deciding that all Taiwanese goods, imports, and exports have to go through mainland China first, which would cause a real tension. And I could see a Chinese ship and an American ship trading, you know, trading valleys or something like that. And, you know, that's going to do, what does that do? It's going to send oil through the roof. It's going to have put everybody into war fever.

Also, what is our, I mean, China makes our prescription drugs. Are we right now setting it up so that we can manufacture if they cut off prescription drugs, what happens? The Chinese are not like the Russians. The Russians, if you declare war on them, if you have a Cold War, they'll still trade with you. Most people don't realize during the Cold War we traded with Russia all the time.

That's why when Carter imposed a grain embargo, on the Soviet Union, everybody freaked out. And most people would be like, hear that, and they're like, we gave the Soviet Union grain while the Cold War was going. Yeah. And that was the first thing Reagan did when he got elected was lift the grain embargo. There are still countries that we can be in conflict with, and we can still keep trading. I don't know that China's one of those.

They're not a Christian country. Russia is a Christian country for better or for worse. Even when it was the Soviet Union, you still had the Orthodox Church who had some kind of that has that historic influence was still there especially after Stalin and most of the horrible Bolsheviks got out of there and it just basically became another managerial state in the 50s you can still deal with these people and they you know but yeah I mean that's I guess that's my worry is if we're going to be financially prosperous to the point where you know we have maybe a decade and a half to, you know, cinch up what we need to for what is eventually going to come

to a head here, which is the fact that when another Democrat gets elected, they are going to look to not imprison people. I think they're going to look to kill people. Chris Murphy has, Chris Murphy, this, the, I can't remember if he's a congressman or a senator from Connecticut. I can't remember Congress or Senator either. Yeah, he's basically said, I mean, I just saw Mike Shelby on his Twitter account shared a video of him this morning, basically talking to a college auditorium and saying, essentially, now's not the time. There's coming a time. Even Al Gore, two weeks ago, was speaking to somebody even from the perspective of climate action as well. It's, it's, they're, they're really amping up the vitriol.

And that's what you have to worry about because that, that destroys minds. Well, January, let's remember January 6th, they were throwing people, they threw people into the hole who weren't there. They threw, they were throwing grand, grand, grandmothers into the hole. They, you know, let's remember the four people that committed suicide because they were arrested and thrown into jail because they walked around the Capitol. And let's not talk about who plants at the dynamite, who they saw plants in the dynamite and all that stuff that we that, you know, is for another, is for another show. They did that. They arrested grandmothers who were basically close to, close to death for praying outside of abortion clinics. and when the judge

when the judge sentenced her and they said well she's sick and she doesn't have much longer to live the judge left okay we watch this we watched the president of the United States

get in front to a speech in Philadelphia with a red background with two soldiers who looked like stormtroopers and he basically said 40% of the country was semi-fascist You know what I know what I know about this country? If you're a fascist in this country, people want you dead. You're not allowed to believe that, oh, maybe Mussolini has some good ideas.

If you hold that belief, people want to kill you. Okay, so what happens the next time a Democrat gets elected in office? That's the problem with this whole administration. That's the problem why I'm in the planning stage where it's like, because they're not making it so that a Democrat never gets elected again. because if one of these regime people gets elected again, they are going to seek retribution. They have said it openly.

The problem is, Peter, is the stakes are very high right now. And they're playing this game like we're playing for another midterm election. That's exactly what they're doing. What we're supposed to be is putting the country back together. Do you get what I'm saying? Like putting there what is supposed to be there. So instead, they're looking at the midterms. And I think that that is why we continually lose again and again and again and again because we're just looking at the next election in two years.

Rather than how do we solve things. Yeah, which is one thing that Americans don't want to hear and people who are constitutionalists don't want to hear is when you have those elections over and over again, there is all your, that's it. Everything can change. someone can get it's you're never going to have any permanent change which is why having an emperor or having a king was preferable i mean i make that argument and people who know that argument too that that that the best type of government is benevolent monarchy and people get kind of upset with me yeah i mean it's like one person who rule i mean if things go bad you know whose head to chop off i mean you know who you know who to point the rifle at there's no central people say

this is a centralized government. It's completely decentralized. Where would you even start? I mean, try to overthrow this government. We'll see what you have to fix. Doesn't even get elected every two, four, whatever years. Right, right.

So it's impossible. Calling for revolution in this country is impossible because, I mean, it's like, what are you doing? Where would you even start? But, you know, if you have one person in charge, one person who wants to leave it to their sons so that it's in their best interest that, you know, they don't completely rape the treasury before they leave office.

You know, it makes more sense. But we're not, we're, that's not us, which is why I say we're headed to a very, very dark place. Because if you do not destroy these people, you have to utterly destroy these people. They can't, they can never be allowed to have power again. They can never be allowed to have wealth again. Or else they are going to come back and they're going to come back. and they're going to come back with a vengeance,

which no one's going to do that. And so no one who's elected is going to do that. So we need to be prepared for the next time some lunatic gets in office. And I mean, if you don't, let me go back, circle back to the managerial state. If you don't believe there's a managerial state,

what was Biden's presidency? What was the electronic pen? What was the guy wasn't running. And why is nothing being done about that, though, is what I don't understand because basically in the waning hours of a presidency, they were giving out, get out of jail free cards to people that they, you know, they tell us they hadn't committed crimes, but at the same time they still needed, they still felt they needed get out of jail free cards. And the guy that was supposedly driving the bus didn't sign them anyway. So it's like, like, like, where are we? And Alexander Vindman's wife goes on Twitter and is like, how come we didn't get one? I mean, wait a minute, what?

If that's not a tell, it's like all of these people, all of these criminals, I mean, the criminals who orchestrated the Ukraine war. I mean, people are like, oh, Putin's a dictator. I would have done the same thing Putin did, except I would have done it in 2015. And I wouldn't have done it piecemeal. I would have went in and leveled Kiev and just take and just been like, this is over. You're not killing my people anymore. You're not killing Russians anymore. Russians in your country need to be treated like guests, not like targets.

You're not going to kill them anymore. And people are like, oh, Putin's a dictator. Putin's benevolent compared to the people who started, who orchestrated that whole thing. people who orchestrated that whole thing unfortunately and only the good die young so they'll probably die old but I mean they should be on trial and they should be in jail for the rest of their lives

I mean I know their names I mean most people who are educated in this know their names it's like these people should be in Gitmo or they should be in Seacot in El Salvador Tony Deul and Susan Rice you know that that whole cabal of individuals Yeah. I mean, these people are, here's another way you know this is a managerial state. Victoria Newland worked for George W. Bush and Barack Obama. I mean, has that happen?

How's that if we're not a war state, if we're not a state that is one of its main functions is to declare war, and Victoria Newland has been there for two, for a Republican president and a Democratic. president to help push the war and push the wars and basically design it so that you have a country feels like they have to invade in order to in order to stop suffering what do you how are we not a how are we not a an executive state if the president if one if a Republican president can't say no to her and a Democrat president can't say no to her Notice what she did when she knew that Donald Trump was going to get elected. She stepped down.

Yeah, but she stepped down, but she joined an NGO, which also at the same time. Of course. And there's another thing that needs to be destroyed, NGOs. I mean, I have, I know people who worked for NGOs. You know, I have personal friends who've worked for NGOs. And they will tell you there's no accountability. They're basically like, you know, NGOs like, like the National Endowment, for democracy. When they were formed, they did an article.

There was an article with their founder in the New York Times that he said, basically, we're going to do the job now that the CIA does. We're going to be taking, we're going to be taking away work from the CIA so they can concentrate on other things. What was the first thing they did seek to destroy Yugoslavia? Well, and then you look at it, and then it's why I like to call Victoria Newland, the angel of death. You look at every place they show up.

the Arab Spring, you have the Maidan Revolution, you have all these different things start to happen wherever the woman pops up, right? And I think that's what we have to really consider is this whole sphere of like kind of the NGO world where basically our government is just paying for cover all color revolutions around the planet. And at the same time, they've lost so much control on it. It's come back on us, right? Like, and now we're seeing color revolutions within our own country. Yeah. I mean, I think it was, um, for his disgusting human being as he was, Michelle Foucault.

He talked about that. He called that. He said the countries, and he was talking about the United States, that goes looking for wars overseas, they will eventually run out of wars, and then they will come home and they will declare war on their own people.

That's what we've seen. That's what we've seen. I mean, is, I don't know how anybody has faith in democracy anymore. I mean, I think that Donald Trump, whether people who voted for Donald Trump... I don't think it's that, though, Peter. I think what we have isn't democracy anymore, if that makes sense. But continue your thought that people have voted for Donald Trump.

Sure, sure. No, we don't have democracy. It's an oligarchy. But it's a bastardization even of a classic oligarchy. I mean, there was oligarchy in Athens. So, I mean, but this is a complete bastardization. The people who voted for Donald Trump, a lot of the people,

whether they even know it or not, and if you tell them right now that this is what they were doing, a lot of them will go, no, no, that's not what I was doing. This is subconsciously, this is what they were doing. They were voting for a king.

Please come in and save this. Please come in and clean this up. And then as soon as he decided, well, I mean, what's the biggest thing we have to do? We have to become a manufacturer again. We have to, we basically have to trade,

trade in this country has been used to benefit a very small minority and then foreign interests. So we're going to put tariffs on it. And then the people, how many people voted for Trump who were like, look at my IRA and everything. Look, I have investments, too. They went down. I wasn't crying. It's going to take, if anything is going to be fixed, it's going to be, there's going to be pain. I mean, anyone knows that.

Anybody who's ever really been out of shape and needed to get back in shape knows how painful it is. to do that. So they start crying as soon as it affects them. That's the problem. That's one of the main problems here is people here have been conditioned to think, if I just vote for the right person, I don't have to do anything. They do everything, and it better not affect me.

I mean, I was at the point where I was like, I don't care what it takes. I don't care what the market does. I don't care if the market goes down 50%. I don't care if oil goes up to 150. I don't care of gas is $7, $8, $9 a gallon. Just fix this. But people just aren't, they're not like,

I guess they're not at the point that I am. And I'm at the point where I'm not looking at this and being like, oh, I'm not looking at this as a house that's falling down and being like, well, that beam up there is infested with termites and the studs behind this wall. Or, you know, we have a lot of problems. No, the foundation is broken. the foundation is completely cracked, it's falling apart, it's sliding.

There's no foundation anymore. And until you figure out what the foundation is or seek to rebuild that foundation or demand that that foundation be rebuilt or more importantly, rebuild your own foundation because that's where it starts, nothing's going to be fixed. And even if it can be fixed,

that's the point. People think that this is, oh, you know, it's like any, I've worked for a company before that was having some problems. We just have to do a tweak here, tweak there. Things will get back to normal. I'm sorry, what movie are you watching? We're watching two different movies. And, I mean, the plot I'm seeing, oh, this plot is, it's the road to hell. It's the exorcist, but the demon never gets excessed.

I think we're going to have to have another conversation about this too because I think there's there's so many other directions we could go in this, including I think we do have to do a Spanish Civil War episode. So we'll definitely schedule that after this conversation. But I guess some parting thoughts before we kind of wind down here and tell people where they can find you. Yeah, the Pekignano show on all podcatchers. I throw some episodes on YouTube. I mostly do like little clips on YouTube pointing to the podcast on. on Apple, Spotify, all the podcasters, everything. I have petesubstack.com. That's where people can support me. I have Patreon. I have many ways that you can financially support. But I also a member of the Old Glory Club.

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And we're on episode 31 now. It may, that may go 100, it's probably going to go 125 to 130 episodes that I see because we're reading every word of it. And he's providing, Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is providing historical analysis on exactly what was happening at that time. So, yeah, I got a lot,

just started a continental philosophy just started a continental philosophy series with my friend Thomas. And it's only three. That are a university. That might be the next step. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, no.

That's, believe me, you know, if the IDW types can have their university in Austin, us revisionists and, you know, right-wangers can have our own. It's just a matter of time.

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