The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete on the Year Zero Podcast w/ Tommy Salmons

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

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It's been a while since you've been on the show, man. How have you been doing? Doing good, Tommy. How are you? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I'm excited to get into this. One of the things that I feel like I want to start the conversation off with because I find this to be important is, you know, I kind of like float between worlds here.

You know, I'm friends with like, you. and Matt Erickson and Jason Murenchuk and all these guys that are kind of more of the dissident right, you know, so to speak. And then I'm still like kind of floating within the libertarian space in ways. You know, I'm still real close with a lot of them guys. And I kind of have my, I wouldn't say I have a split perspective. I want to say that like I don't necessarily 100% agree with any of, any of y'all. But, you know, I enjoy the conversations. And the thing that's so interesting about having conversations with those of y'all from

the right is it's a perspective that a lot of people have never heard before. And we're gathering information like from like Tom Luongo and from stormy waters and some of these guys in looking at at the world in a different way. Well, I guess one of the things that happened recently was I was I was just like, of course, talking about the Federal Reserve, you know, we were making the point that ending the Federal Reserve right now would be. dangerous to most people. And people immediately started, when they responded to that, they were responding in what I

called the very religious way. And what I mean by that is they're inside a bubble. And they're not taking into consideration the fact that they have an ideology. The ideology is within a bubble. And when they hear something, they automatically, they, they, revert their thinking reverts a certain way and just has a pat answer for that. And it's like, well, you know, we can't really, we can't end the Federal Reserve right now because, you know, the globalists will just swoop right in, take over.

And it's like, no, we have to end the Federal Reserve. Now we end the Federal Reserve. That's what we have to do. And it's like, that's very religious thinking because you're not even asking for a explanation, you're not asking, well, why do you think it would be dangerous? Why do you think globalism? It would just empower globalism to end the Federal Reserve right now. You're just going off, you're just reacting. And what's funny is, is people like me are accused of being a reactionary, which, okay, proud, proudly, proudly from, if you understand the historical

definition of that, sure. But, you know, what I saw was, Because when Tom said that on my show and I put that on Twitter, people reacted to it in a way that it's like, okay, no, I'm in this bubble. My bubble, the people inside this bubble and the people who inform this bubble, the quote-unquote thought leaders inside this bubble, say this. I'm not going to listen to anything outside of that. and I will hear, I'll, I'll listen to it, but I'm not going to hear it. I'm not going to take it into consideration. And I'm not going to try to understand it. One of the things that I try to do is I try to understand everybody's, you know,

where everyone's coming from. It's one of the reasons why I've studied Marxism so deeply and why I've studied, why I've tried to study as much as I can because I want to understand where everyone's coming from. I'm reading a book right now on my show called The Dean. and in democracy. And it shows how liberalism and even classical liberalism matches up with communism and Marxism in one distinct way

in that it's promising, we're on the path to, as perfect as we can get. And I needed to understand that. And that was one of the first books, actually. I read that book in 2021, and that was a book that actually, Daniel McAdams actually recommended, that book. And it really turned my thinking around, especially as I was coming back to the church. And when I came back to the church, I came back to the Protestant church. And then when we moved to

where we live now, there was a small Catholic church. And I grew up Catholic. I was baptized as a baby, brought up in the Catholic Church, graduated Catholic school. And, you know, I just went, my family has been, my dad was a Southern Baptist preacher, but, you know, he was born into a, his ancestors were all Catholic. My mother's ancestors are all Catholic. That's who I am, basically. So I wanted to, when I went back to the church, I was like, okay, this makes sense to me. All the questions I had about Protestantism when I was, even in a Protestant seminary and arguing with the professors going, this doesn't make any sense to me. How do you know this? What's your authority upon this? And really, that's what informs me now is like, what's your authority? What's your authority to tell me that

We need to end the Federal Reserve right now. Oh, well, theft, fractionalization of money. Sure, I understand all of that. Okay. But I'm telling you, if you end the Federal Reserve right now, it's going to hurt the majority of the population. It's going to impoverish them. And it's going to, people will die.

And it's like, well, and no one wants to ask me, why? Why that would happen? We'd have insane deflation, which would help a lot of people, but it would also, a lot of people would, are going to lose jobs because a lot of people are going to be forced to shut their businesses down. I mean, there are all these, there are all these variables that are real life that are happening right now. What Jerome Powell's been doing at the Fed for the last four years by basically destroying the euro dollar system, bringing our, our interest rates were an interest rate on a credit card that was issued in Austin, Texas. The rate on that was being determined by someone overseas. It wasn't even American.

He destroyed all of that. He brought it home. So when I look at, when I look at like, and I'm just using the Federal Reserve as a jumping off point, because that was one of the things you asked me when we talked, we talked before we recorded the other day. I was like, okay, well, there are all these, there are all these things. People are like, oh, you know, we can go to Bitcoin right now.

I'm like, can we? How? So Trump's talking about because he has people around him who are like, well, we need to make it an M1 reserve. We're going to have an M1 reserve of Bitcoin. Okay, well, what does that mean? That means that people are going to be able to borrow money off of it. who is stopping them from borrowing money off of it at four to five to six to seven times

who to to fractionalize it not fractionalizing bitcoin but fractionalizing the reserve the reserve element behind it you know so it's like you can say oh we know we have a trillion dollars worth of bitcoin sitting here in an m1 reserve okay we're going to lend 10 trillion off of that Right. Okay. So, and they can do that. Why? Because they're in charge. So you can say, oh, if we just go to Bitcoin, everything will be great. You know, if we just have Bitcoin as reserve as the Bitcoin standard, okay, well, who's going to be the one to police how, because Bitcoin is not going to be an M2 currency? Most Bitcoin people say that. So if it's just, who's going to do this? Who? So it's, I'm listening to people talk and they're not looking and understanding exactly how the global economy works right now. They don't understand that the U.S. dollar is the most powerful currency in the world right now. Above pretty much all others, even Russia's ruble has started to fall. But you don't quit a game when you're winning, especially when you're like kicking your opponent's ass.

you don't quit a game. And if you do quit that game, like Chesterton's fence, if you're going to tear this down, why are you tearing it down? And what's on the other side of it? Is it going to be worse than it is right now? And if your only answer to that is, well, I'm being stolen from and that's immoral, that's not enough for me. That's not enough for me.

Because your grandmother, what are you doing to your grandparents? What are you doing to old people who have no idea what this Bitcoin stuff is? Who in a deflationary situation, they might do, they may actually do well because prices may drop, but also there may be things that aren't available to them anymore. So really, it's, when I look at how I used to think when Chris and Robert and I were writing the monopoly on violence, the documentary, we were so inside a box. and not considering what else there was. We're saying, we need to tear this down.

We need to tear this down. We need to tear this down. This is immoral. This is immoral. This is immoral. Okay, well, what's on the other side of that? What's waiting? And do you have people on the other side ready to save people?

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I know a lot of people, other people who say, oh, well, I'm just waiting for everything. It's a collapse. Okay. Do you know who's going to be in charge after a collapse? The person who can feed people. Can you feed people? I mean, it's all it is, it's religion. And as somebody who is religious and somebody who has a catechism and goes, this is what I believe.

It's right here. I understand that. but this isn't but you know this is personal over here between me and my church we're talking about all the we're talking about all the people and people that i care about too people that i share values with i don't want to see them hurt because somebody is and i know these people don't desire power i know there are no danger at all but they could influence they could influence something one day without understanding what's on the other side of that. And they may think, oh, I'm, you know, and really, I'll bring up communism again. I've actually talked to people who were like, yeah, I don't care

if other people have to die, but other people are going to have to die in order for us to, in order for us to get through this. Well, I mean, that just sounds like Lenin or Trotsky to me. So, you know, why I had somebody the other day tell me, I told them, I said, we're always going to have to have someone there who is above the law to decide the exception when it comes to, you know, he said, oh, if somebody breaks into my house, I'll just shoot them, visual any justice. And I'm like, okay, but what if that guy didn't break into your house? What if you guys were playing cards and he beat you and you shot him? Somebody has to be there to make that decision. It's like, well, somebody else can do it.

And this person's just advocating for vigilante justice. And he's not doing it like in a, he doesn't sound like an insane person. He's doing this politely and we're just having a conversation. And I'm like, well, that's insane, first of all. And why would I want to be associated with people who were sharing ideas like that? And then people, and then somebody will say like, well, no, just listen to the leaders, listen to the leaders of the movement. You know, why are you listening to a nons on Twitter?

Listen to the leaders of the movement. What are the leaders of the movement saying? What are their recommendations? Where are their answers? I mean, especially if you start making a living off of this and you make a good living off of being a quote-unquote content creator, how much are they? boat do you want to rock? Right. Where are the incentives like driving you? Yeah. I mean,

I can understand poor people who are just like, I'm desperate here. I'm willing to do desperate things. But then again, that person doesn't have any, doesn't really have a following or people listening to them or anything like that. But still, these ideas are just ridiculous. I mean, to not be able to have a conversation, to default to morality, especially people who want to preach morality of me, who I know are atheists. It's like, yeah, I mean, sorry. Your argumentation ethics and your private, this is an ideology about private property, that's not morality.

Sorry, morality is not, don't hurt people, don't take care. stuff. Okay. There are, there are, there are, there are a lot of things that can destroy a community and destroy a culture in a community where you're not, when people, where people aren't getting hurt, people aren't having their stuff taken from them. And see a lot of advocating for that, too. I mean, if you are somebody who says, you know, prostitution should just be legal. It should be everywhere. You're my enemy. You're my enemy and you're God's enemy. You're God's enemy. I can I let me back this up just a tad bit because I have a couple of questions because I noticed something like whenever I discovered orthodoxy and I started getting more involved with the church

and I started going down that path becoming a catacumen and becoming orthodox. I noticed a lot of my mindset changed and the way I looked at politics and just the way I engage with the world, that all changed. Like my, like just the structure of who I was and the way I view things changed. So how much was the rediscovering of your Catholic origins? Like, how much did that influence the change in your thinking and then change in the way that you approach these subjects? Well, it was just a way to go.

It was once you figure out that something is not working, once you figure out that something is not workable. you know, I think a lot of us, maybe even including yourself, went through 2020 and we're like, people don't want to be free. People want to be told what to do. You know, people are just sheep, and they're waiting to be told what to do. Well, where does order come from? You know, if you want order, people are going to have to be orderly. People are going to have to desire order. Or there's going to have to be a mechanism in place that enforces order. Well, where does that come from? What is, what is the basis behind that?

Is it private property rights? Is it good economics? I think it goes beyond that. And I think it goes to that which cannot be seen and cannot be felt. I mean, which, well, can be felt on the inside, but it's not something you can reach out and touch. Everybody wants something that they can,

they can say, this is the exact way that this is going to work. And Sam Francis said that he said every ideology works great in theory until it gets introduced to reality. And then as soon as it gets into reality, it's no longer an ideology.

It just gets totally torn apart. And I think even like somebody like in the Libertarian Party, you're seeing that. With Angela McArdle, you know, being able to, having a line to Mara Lago and talking to people within the administration.

You see libertarians, even libertarians that have like, you know, pretty, you know, halfway popular podcasts attacking her for getting in bed with, getting in bed with evil or whatever, that you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to seek power. You're not allowed to, you know, use power. they'll do this thing that that's absolute that that's

because people are so afraid of failure and people don't want to look bad they'll say oh you're just going to sidle up and he's just and he's just going to tell you what he wants to hear leads you down the path and you're not going to get anything okay so if that happens

so what so what what do you what okay what are you going to die of embarrassment because you thought something was going to happen that didn't. Are you going to look foolish? That's how politics works. And it's just sometimes you're going to get what you're going to get your way.

Sometimes you're going to be able to leverage, leverage things in your direction. That's the way life works. That's the way, you know, if you're talking to somebody and you're trying to talk down the price of a car you're trying to buy or something like that. You may, I mean, these are the kind of people who are like, if you go, Look, I can't go below 23. I can't go below 23,000. You're like, I'm sorry, I'm not going to go below 23-5.

And then you're like, all right, I'll do 23-5. These people look at you like you're a loser or something like that. Because you wanted it a certain way and you didn't get it. That's fucking, that's life. That's life. Get out there and live it. Get out there and fail. Get out there and fail over and over again.

Yeah. No, I completely agree with that. And it's like what Matt Erickson was said for, you know, a long time there in 2020, 2020, 2021, you know, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, you know, like you didn't, the United States did not end up in the situation that it's in today politically all at once. It was one step at a time. And you're only going to be able to chip away at it one step at a time. You're not going to be able to chip.

And I'll talk to some of my friends that are, are. libertarians and you know I love these guys and we've been friends for years now and they're like yeah but trump's bad on Israel and I'm like look dude look at the political like 95% of the country is they're all yeah I was like I told them I was like I've come to the conclusion that Israel is going to be the last cancer that gets cut out of the United States like and if you just accept that and you're like okay like what can we do like where can we start making like changes and And what can we accept, you know, and just start looking at it from that perspective. Then it kind of changes the way that you view the landscape.

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You know, and I had the same idea with Peter Thiel. I was like, yeah, maybe, like I've been saying it for years. Like maybe tomorrow he'll do something that I just despise and I can't live with. But at this moment, he's my friend as far as I'm concerned because like he's got his his power focused in the right direction to destroy the the things in the government that are actually harming me and harming my family right so yeah i i get exactly what you're saying as far as you know you can't you can't just go all in you can't expect to get everything all at one time now with the federal reserve well well let me can i answer can i answer i address one thing you said

there so So you said that, you know, I can support Peter Thiel right now and then he may do something until, you know, that will make you abandon him, you know, later. There's a lot of people who can't deal with that. They're just not willing to deal with that because they, it's more important that they're right than anything else. Yeah. It's more important that they, that they or they appear to themselves and to their, you know, the group chat, that they're right. that they don't make, that they never make a mistake, that they never go out on a limb,

that they never make a prediction. You know, one thing I learned from Matt Erickson was, you know, I said, yeah, I don't really like to make predictions. And one of the reasons I really don't like to make predictions

is because I'm just bad at it. I mean, I'm pretty bad at it. And it's like, and I'd rather wait and see. And Matt said, eh, it's great to make predictions

because now you have skin in the game. And now you're there. You know, it's like, You know, you've watched sports. Is sports more interesting when you're watching it or when you have a bet on the game? Right. You know, and these people are just, a lot of these people are just cowards.

Because they don't want, they're not willing to, if they leave theory, if they leave the theory that they're, that they're so beholden to that if we just do this, I know that it'll make, that it'll work. And, you know, and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that they know that it will never be implemented and it will never be tested in the world. So they always get to be right, quote unquote, right. But, you know, I'm one of those people now who's just like, well, I mean, I'm going to go off the deep end and say, yeah, I mean, I think there's a chance that Trump could really do some damage to the administrative state. I think that with people like Vivek there and with Elon there, you know, and everybody's like, oh, Miriam Adelson gave him $100 million. Elon gave him $260 million. Mm-hmm.

Elon's expecting something back for that. Yeah. Yeah. And, well, what is that? You know, and also Silicon Valley. How about, how about, what's his name from the Mellon family? he gave him 170 million. Right.

Okay, so is he expecting something? And this is a, you know, this is a WASP elite, you know, who's not like one of the black sheep in the family who was like pushing degeneracy in the 60s and pushing the hippie movement and LSD and things like that. You know, this guy's like, you know, he's just a banker. That's all he is. He's a banker. Kill him. Kill the bankers. Well, I mean, some of these bankers are trying to do their best to make the dollar worth more than it is right now.

I mean, I can give you the names of people. Well, let's start with private equity Powell at the Federal Reserve, Timothy Mellon, Jamie Diamond. Now, these guys, and any libertarian should understand this. These guys may not be doing it for you. They're doing it for their self-interest. But I remember when I read economics, it said that the reason why, well, you know, sometimes people are going to start a business

because they want to get rich. But whatever they produce, their self-interest could help you because what they produce could make your life easier, could make your life more prosperous. Right. So, but you're not allowed to deal with that because central banking bad,

Federal Reserve, bad. And the way I look at it is, and Tom Luongo feels the same way about this. If the next person who gets into the Federal Reserve is, you know, one of the old, somebody who's not an eighth generation, Virginian, but maybe someone who's a second generation Ukrainian,

if you know what I'm saying, then, well, then the Federal Reserve is our enemy again, and we need to figure something. else out. But right now, right now, things are looking really, really good. And you don't, you don't quit. If you're winning 70 to nothing, you don't quit. Well, and I thought it was interesting because in that clip that so many people had had responded to, and I listened to that whole podcast. And I mean, that was a very small segment of the podcast. It's not like that was the entire podcast. But, and I find Tom to be very interesting.

I like listening to him. I always learn something listening to him. He always makes me think. And so, but I clearly remember in that little clip that he said it's not because he doesn't think that the Federal Reserve should eventually be gotten rid of. And he's all about backing, you know, backing the dollar with gold. And the traditional libertarian view on money, he's just saying at this moment, it's not the time. You can't do it right now. And, and I was like, well, that's a reasonable perspective.

You know, there's, you know, it's not like he's saying, it's not like he's saying, no, the dollar's perfect. And the way that the Federal Reserve interacts with the, with the United States is, and the world is absolutely perfect. I mean, that's not what he said. He was, he was making the point that at this time, it's not the right time to do that. Because if you do that, it's going to cause a lot of damage, a lot of pain. And it's not going to be good for the United States, ultimately weakening the United States in the long run. And I thought that was just a reasonable way to look at that, that, you know, that point of view and say, okay, well, maybe there's a way to go about it and to set something else up in the background while you're dismantling it from

the inside and not just throwing the, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Well, I mean, I like that you mentioned there that you're setting something out, something, you're like a parallel structure. Right. Okay, well, I know Bitcoin is that. Okay, Bitcoin exists. I'm going to go by what the Bitcoin experts that I respect the most, like car camp it, people like that, say that it's a bulletproof technology.

Okay. Well, how are you going to get everyone to use it? How are you going to make it, how are you going to make it, as the book calls it, the Bitcoin standard. You're going to, well, what is that, well, eventually things are going to get so bad that, you know, governments are going to want to use it? Okay.

How are they going to use it? As I mentioned before, say you have a trillion dollar reserve of Bitcoin. What is stopping people who are not your people from lending 20 trillion off of that trillion or 30 trillion off of that trillion? just like the Bank of London does with a hundred tons of gold, with a hundred million dollars worth of gold, they lend $100 trillion against that. What's stopping them from doing that?

What can stop them from doing that is you taking over, you becoming the government, you becoming the state, and you directing that, and saying no, it's going to be dollar for dollar with Bitcoin. And until you're willing to do that, shut up. Because that's the way things work.

My buddy Charlie, Charlemagne, had a great tweet two years ago or something like that. He said, libertarians are 100% correct when they say that the government is organized crime. What libertarians don't understand this is that you want to be the mobsters. You have to be the mobsters or else you're never going to get your way. and there were mobsters out there who did good things, took care of their neighborhoods, took care of their neighborhoods, quote-unquote, mobsters.

But there were people in charge who took care of things. Look at Buckelly right now. I mean, I'm sure there are podcasters in El Salvador who five years ago were saying the country can never be turned around. You know, we need to get out of here. There's murders every day. We're the murder capital of the world. This is the worst place to live.

And then as soon as Buckelly started coming up and started doing things, they were like, they didn't change their tune because they couldn't. Because they only had one way of thinking. And then, you know, it's probably like, oh, Buckelly's doing it. But somebody has to be controlling him. Somebody, and maybe someone is. I don't know. Somebody has to be controlling him.

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Most people's nature is they get stuck in something. And especially if they get stuck in something, especially if they have, I'll bring it back to this, if they have no religion, they're looking for some kind of system that allows them to have morality. For a lot of people on the left, It is the state, you know, like Ted Kaczynski talked about overssocialization, people becoming relying upon the state, becoming activists.

Seems like a lot of people who are attracted to libertarianism or attracted to libertarianism because it allows for them to replace Sky Daddy with a system of books in a library down in Auburn, Alabama, an hour and a half south of me. I had talked to Mark Clare about this a couple of years ago about how he had viewed Ron Paul much like the Christians view Christ and that it was a very, it was very distressing to him to come to the conclusion that Ron Paul was not a savior, that he was just a man. And, you know, I mean, Ron Paul is a very religious man. you know, he's, he's very faithful in his Christian. And I guarantee you he would never want anybody to look at him that way. And the, to know that that's how people look at this is. Part of what attracted me to libertarianism whenever I first got into it was the fact that there was no state worship.

Like the one thing I identified most more than anything was people are worshipping like Obama. people worship the politicians like that's like gods to them and it's weird you know and i just it gave me the creeps right and and even at that time i was calling myself agnostic um and because i was and it was just it was just it was creepy i just it was creepy and so creepy and so that pulled me into libertarianism but then i saw with the in libertarianism there are many factions of libertarianism and it doesn't go for everybody like i have some great friends that are libertarianism but there are some some factions of libertarianism that then want to put on high a little you know like a tom woods or someone like that and i'm not saying anybody worships tom woods i'm just making this point that they're trying they're always looking for somebody to put on the on the top of the mountain and to you know bow at the feet of and it's like well you're just replacing god that's all you're doing and it is disturbing to see that happen.

And so when you attack, you know, one of their core tenants, like destroying the Federal Reserve today, and they have that knee-jerk reaction, you're right. It is a very religious way of looking at it. Instead of sitting there and saying, okay, what exactly would happen today?

Maybe you can start answering some of this, you know, just by some of the calculations you've done. If we went in and we destroyed the Federal Reserve today, there's no Federal Reserve tomorrow. What happens? And what are the good positives? What are the negatives? And we got to,

you know, everybody's got to look at that. And we have to weigh that out. Okay, the question is, okay, you destroy the Federal Reserve tomorrow. What replaces the dollar?

Nothing. The dollar still exists. Okay. Now who's in charge of the dollar? The Treasury? Janet Yellen. Janet Yellen who her

her thesis was on Marxist was on labor theory of value or are you going to send it back to Congress Congress who everyone has an APAC handler except for Thomas Massey so who's going to be in charge of the dollar basically who's going to be in charge of the dollar is

it's going to be the International Bank of Settlements is I mean Well, it's going to be the same people that control Congress right now. And that's what they don't look. They're not looking at. They're not the people that control the Senate, that buy the Senate, these lobbyists, big pharma, Israel, you know, through APAC, all these, all these lobbyists are going to now control the dollar. You know, they already have enough control over how money is spent. We don't want to give them control over the printing of the money because it's already a big enough issue that most of the time when money is printed, it's given to the,

the wealthy individuals before inflation hits. And by the time it trickles down to us peons working out in the streets and doing the hard labor, inflation is already hitting. It's already devalued the dollar. So that's already an issue. And it would just escalate that issue. It would be worse. It would get much worse.

Well, the good question to ask is, okay, so if Jerome Powell is at the Fed, he's an eighth generation, Virginia, and he is basically has gone a war with the city of London. And I'm not talking about London, you know, bad teeth and Big Ben. There's this little one square mile of the city, called the city of London in the middle, which is its own independent, where all the banks are. This is where Lloyd's of London is. It's where all the banks are.

And it was settled a thousand years ago by Khazarian Jews. And they still own it today. They still run it today. Okay, he's been at war with them. He's been at war with the World Economic Forum. He's been at war with the International Bank of Settlements. He's been at war with LIBOR. He got LIBOR completely.

LIBOR was what was controlling interest rates, our interest rates from overseas. He got a sense of Chicago where now it's so far, and the United States controls those interest rates. So here's a good question. If anyone controls Jerome Powell, who controls Jerome Powell? investment banking. I mean, he's private equity pal.

Investment banks, Wall Street. Okay. What do we know about Wall Street? Will Wall Street exist if there is ever a central bank digital currency? No. No. Commercial banking goes away. So Wall Street doesn't want a central bank digital currency.

I'm sure most libertarians don't want a central bank digital currency. But isn't that what we're doing? would become, if you replace the dollar with Bitcoin, wouldn't it just be a CBDC? Who's going to do that? Well, I'm not saying anybody's going to do it. What I'm saying is it wouldn't it, if you turn Bitcoin into a fractional currency, then wouldn't it just become a central bank digital currency? Well, from what I understand, Bitcoin itself, the technology and the current, the,

the technology itself cannot be fractionalized. That's what I've been told. It's been explained to me that that can't. So I'm going upon that that can't happen. But what can happen is what I've already described is it can become a reserve. And what Bitcoin people are hoping on is, praying on is that that that won't be fractionalized. You can't fractionalize Bitcoin because Bitcoin is not going to be your currency. The Lightning Network, even the inventor of the Lightning Network says the Lightning Network doesn't work.

It's not going to work. It does work, I mean, but it's not going to work for commerce the way they want it to work. So you're going to have to have a proxy. Like, yeah, how we were on the gold standard at once. When we were on the gold standard, the proxy was the dollar. And you were only allowed a certain amount of dollars to every ounce of gold. Well, that's the way it should be for Bitcoin. But the problem is, it says, who's going to regulate that?

if you want the Bitcoin to be the reserve and there's only 21 million Bitcoins, who's going to regulate how that, if that gets, are you only going to have 21 million, say, let's say it's not called the dollar anymore. It's called the Satoshi. You're only going to have 21 million stats, just called stats out there.

That sounds kind of, that's interesting. Okay, so that means that probably everything now will be the equivalent. Most things would be the, equivalent of pennies unless you fractionalize it. Or maybe the Bitcoin guys have a better way of doing that. And I'm willing to listen to it. But that still does not change the fact that they're going to have to be in charge. Who's going to be in charge of if Bitcoin is the only M1 reserve in the

plan in the United States? who's going to be in charge of that. Somebody has to be in charge of that who is sympathetic to the Bitcoin Bros and to Libertarians who are promoting this as a currency or promoting it as a reserve. Well, there's only one way that's going to happen

is you're going to have to be in charge. How are you going to be, how do you get in charge? How are you going to be in charge of it? When it's not against the interest of the managerial state, this this insane state system of government

that's existed for about 100 years now, well, first of all, how do you tear it down? And second of all, once you do tear it down, who's going to, who's going to tear it down?

You? Are you going to? I mean, these are people who say that, you know, like voting is violence. Yeah. That voting, you know,

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So we have to get off our ass and do something, right? Okay, well, I mean, who's doing anything? What, podcasting, giving speeches, writing books? Great. You know, me and my friends have decided to, you know, we started something two years ago this November 11th where we're raising up young, getting young people and raising them,

up and showing them what being an elite is all about, what being an natural elite is all about, what getting into positions of how it would look like so that you reward your friends and you punish your enemies. Okay, that's what politics is. Once you understand that politics is rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies, that's it. There is no, we're all going to get along. Everyone knows this.

Even if you were to declare, if you were to take over a town and declare, we are going to run this now like in Kappasthan. You're going to have people who are going to revolt. You're going to have people who are going to organize. You are going to have people who are going to put together a militia. You're going to have people who are going to put together a government. That's one of the reasons why it's like, I'm not an anarchist,

because it's like, okay, you know, you can, anarchists can say all they want that, you know, if you did tear down the government, you know, government's inevitable. Great. Okay, if you understand that a government is inevitable, that people are going to want a government, just do that now. Make it look like you want it to look like. And when you consider that with what people like Jerome Powell have been doing,

they've been weakening global, the global, people, who want globalism, who want there to be like a one world government, whatever. I mean, I know it sounds Alex Jonesy and everything, but that is really what they want. They want every, they want all governance to be the same. If you understand that that's been weakened and that it's weakening and that you understand that we're going towards what Hapa talks about, more like central is like a localized, decentralized kind of government, start building that now. Because even if you do get it to, even if collapse,

Secretarians get their collapse and the government collapses, you want to have your infrastructure in place, right? Best way to do that is to do that locally. And that's, I don't like to call that libertarian because it's not a libertarian idea. I mean, this is the Hanseatic League. Before the term libertarian ever came out, the Hanseatic League was very libertarian. It was very decentralized. But if you don't have a plan, if you're not.

not, if you don't have a plan and you don't understand people's incentives, this is another term that libertarians draw around all the time. They're like, I have people who tell me, you know, when I talk about how much degeneracy there is in the culture and how much damage that does, they're like, well, you know, if we had Bitcoin, it would, people's incentives would change. I'm like, okay, so what you're, what you're saying is, okay, so people would be wealthier, so people would have more. And wealthy people, people, aren't degenerate. You think their incentives would change?

Look at all the people who like win the lottery. Now all of a sudden they went from, you know, living in a very small home to having $20 million. How many of them does that work out for? No. Why? Yeah. And I'm not saying that, you know,

I want everybody to be poor and everything, things like that. But when you have co-heaval, when you have a cohesive culture, when you have people who share values, when you have people who speak the same language, it's easier to organize. People are more,

Sweden famously had a very free market economy up until a certain point in the middle of the 20th century. And then they decided that they were going to basically become this huge welfare state. And people complained about it, But on mass, people didn't complain about it. People do not complain about the welfare state in Iceland. Why don't people complain about the welfare state in Iceland? I mean, you may get one or two outliers or maybe a hundred or even a thousand.

But still, when you consider the percentage of the population, most people are perfectly fine with the welfare state in Iceland. Well, why? Because everyone there is like seventh cousins. The same with Sweden, until they started importing every, you know, mentally ill African and Middle Easterner into the country. And then people were like, well, I mean, this probably should only be for people who are from Sweden. You know, that's the way we designed it at first.

That's the way you- I've actually heard them talk about that too. Yeah. That's the way you get, you know, this is one thing. I've always said this. if libertarians ever get their way, it's going to look exactly like the kind of world I want to live in. Because the kind of world I want to live in

is the only way you're going to have libertarianism, where it's a small group of people, and they all share the same values. And people can say, oh, well, that's just a covenant. You're just talking about how those covenant communities where you can have a communist community over here, and you can have a conservative community over here, you have a narco-capitalist community over there.

That's not going to work. First of all, you have a communist community over there. Wouldn't have communists ever left anybody alone. No. It's just a matter of time. Okay? So reward your friends, punish your enemies, build what you want.

I mean, I don't, but understand how the world works, and understand how it works now. and don't understand that if you were to just all of a sudden overnight, I know Rothbard talked about this, oh, if you could, if you could, what is to snap your finger or something?

Push a button. Yeah, push a button. Oh, I'd break my finger pushing that button. Do you know how many people would die? Do you know how many people would starve to death? Do you know how many people? I mean, what's waiting? You know what's waiting?

the same exact people who are in charge now. Because they're going to be the only ones who are going to be equipped to feed anyone. They're the only ones who would even have the infrastructure to do that. You don't have any infrastructure. At least the agorist talk about building, you know, parallel infrastructure, even though, you know, heavy industry is never one thing that they could deal with. And, you know, how do you, you know, the only way to do banking is to do it privately. and how's your grandmother doing with her Bitcoin wallet, things like that.

But now you're, okay, say, well, I'll just take care of my family. I'll take care of my grandmother. Now you're speaking my language. How about doing that now? How about starting now? How about getting everything set up now for the world you want to see? And I'll ask the question again, how are you going to get to the world you want to see other than wish casting, throwing your penny in a wishing well, or just saying, oh, I hope everything

falls apart. Believe me, if everything falls apart, no one's going to be, the only people who are going to be begging to be a narco-capitalists or people who are a narco-capitalist right now, I guarantee you a lot of those people are not going to be begging to be, or not going to be a narco-capitalist anymore. Yeah, I know. All right. talk about Doge a little bit before I let you go, if you don't mind.

So we, we're talking a little bit about, you know, you check and see why a fence was built before you tear it down. And after seeing how Elon attacked Twitter whenever he went in by attack, I mean, he just taking it on head on and dealt with the problems that were going on at Twitter before he was a CEO. and seeing him go in and cut like 80% of the workforce and Twitter is actually functioning still really well, if not a little bit better than it was before. And it still seems like they're making quite a bit of improvements.

I'll get off a Twitter for a few days and I'll get it back on and I'll notice little tweaks here and there that I hadn't seen before. So I feel like with him and Vivek being very competent and successful business, owners, understanding what it takes to build a business, see that business thrive, and cutting the fat off those businesses in order to be profitable. I feel like they're, they'll have like a very clear sense and a view of how to attack the federal government and look at all these different bureaucracies and agencies that are existing and be able to consolidate agencies that do duplicate work like the FBI and the federal marshal. and be able to consolidate those down to one agency and things like that.

And I think it will happen in a very quick fashion and that the United States, as far as the citizenry, won't fill a lot of the pain from this and that most of the pain is going to be government bureaucrats losing their jobs and actually having to enter the private sector for the first time in their lives. Am I missing anything in my assessment and how I'm looking at this? Air Grid, Operator of Ireland's Electives. Electricity grid is powering up the Northwest.

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I mean, I think the executive, just the executive branch employs 2.8 million. So, I mean, most of those have to go. And that's going to, people are going to be screaming about all these unemployed people and everything. I mean, at this point, just give them, give me a year's worth of salary, let them go. I'd rather just pay people off. It's like the whole reparations thing for black people. I'm perfectly fine with that as long as you leave. You have to leave the country.

And then we'll just destroy the dollar after that. And you won't have anything. But what you need to, what people, I think what people need to understand is if they understand how the administrative state works, you know, And really the best way to understand the administrative state is to read, like, the managerial revolution by James Burnham. And a lot of people will be like, well, he makes a lot of mistakes in there. Well, yeah, he was making a lot of predictions that just didn't come true. And I actually heard somebody say today that was criticizing Burnham because he said that Hitler was going to win.

And I'm like, in 1940, everyone thought Hitler was going to win. I mean, it just basically, I mean, they walked into France backwards and told them that they were leaving and they took over. I mean, everyone thought that. But, you know, Burnham shows that what a managerial state looks like. What a managerial state looks like is it's basically the deep state is you have this state, a permanent state that's always in charge. And it doesn't matter if you get the most ideologically possessed person in there. They're not in charge. And from what I've seen, and Vivek did an interview, this is a year ago, over a year ago, on the Sean Ryan podcast,

it's like two and a half, three hours. And he really, like, lays out what the managerial state is and how to dismantle it. like how you would do it. And he understands. I mean, this is a guy who's obviously read Burnham, obviously read elite theorists, and he understands how this all works.

So I think one thing that's smart about him is he's not an anarchist. So he's not looking to destroy the state. He's trying to get the state to the point where one person can be in charge. It was supposed to be. You have the executive, the executive, the executive makes the decisions. He has a cabinet. He has people around them. He has advisors.

But his is the last word. And that's not always going to happen. You're always going to have people, elites who are going to be speaking, you know, whispering in whoever's in charge's ear. Now we have Elon there. We have a vague there. David Sachs is going to be there. There's going to be a lot of people there.

Who want to. who have owned about it in February, in February this year. And we understood that if these guys were going to go all in on Trump, they were going to expect to get something out of it. So we just started breaking down. What do we know about these guys? Well, they do business with a lot of them just got rich doing business with the government.

Okay, I'd have done the same thing if I were them. they all came out of almost all of them came out of college at the same time 1990 when pat you can and is saying the Soviet Union is falling we need to become the shining city on the hill you know we get and you know there was a time in this country where the smartest and the brightest and Elon Musk would be working in the government David Sachs would be working in the government mark and Drison would be working in the government yeah but they saw at that time that the government doesn't want them the government wants war So let's go make enough money so that maybe one day.

And I'm just, I think I've listened to them enough that I'm not like, this isn't fanfic, that this is probably the way they were thinking. So we're going to need the kind of capital to do the kind of things we want to do, to have the kind of life we want to do, to see the kind of future we want to do. Elon is obsessed with going to Mars. Everything he does, those robots, those robots are designed to work on Mars. I mean, yeah, sure, he may sell them commercially to factories here or even to, you know, people, people may buy them for their home to become like a maid or something like that. All that money is for him to get to Mars.

Why does he want to get to Mars? I don't give a fuck. I don't care. All I know is that that's what his incentives are. Okay. And in order for him to be able to do that, we're going to have to have a completely different. kind of governance because they're not going to allow it. I mean, if when he was being interviewed by Tucker Carlson,

at the beginning of that, he said they were laughing because they both went all in on Trump. And they said, if Trump doesn't get elected, we're going to jail. And they would have found some way to put probably both of them in jail. They would have taken his businesses away from him. They would have destroyed him. So then there was a good episode, called Little Tech Wars with Andresen and Horowitz, where they talked about why they were supporting Trump. And then Horowitz, at the last minute, backed out and endorsed Kamala. I guess Horowitz got the call.

But Andresen, you know, kept going and supported Trump. These guys are in his ear. They're expecting to get something for what they did. And the one thing I know about these guys, is they prize competence. And if there is one thing that we haven't had in government is competence. Yeah. There's no one competent there. There's no one competent there. So what are they doing?

They're trying to put together teams that are the most competent. Do I like Trump's, do I like Trump's picks on his cabinet? Some of them, some of them I absolutely despise and anyone who knows me knows why. But what I'm seeing them do, and especially with Doge, to bring this all the way back to Doge, is I think they're going to try and dismantle the administrative state, the deep state. And can they do it? No idea. Low probability. Do I want them to do it?

Yeah. Am I going to cheer him on? Yeah. If they fail, does that mean I'm a failure? No. means I had hope. Something that seems to most people can't afford these days. Either they can't afford it or they're embarrassed to have it.

Like the Patrick Bet David Future Looks Bright type idea, man. You can't be nihilistic about all this stuff. We all have lives to live. We have families to take care of. People that depend on us. You can't go through the world nihilistically or you're ruining multiple people's lives, not just your own. So, yeah.

You remember when I left libertarianism. One of the things that they said was, oh, you're just black-pilled. Look, man, there is nothing more black-pilled than a libertarian who is just reading books and hoping. You're not doing anything to improve your life. Look, I moved to an area where the cost of living is very low. I live a great life. I have great friends. I've put together a great network of people who I can rely upon.

And people who know that they can rely upon me and people who know that I'm going to sacrifice for them. And that's not something I ever really heard people talk about when I was a libertarian. I remember there was this meme going around, I guess, 2017, 2018. It was completely facetious. It was anarchists unite. And people were making fun of it, as they should.

What, anarchists are going to unite to do anything? Well, I mean, you saw a bunch of anarchists, you know, joined the Libertarian Party. I mean, I was there, too, in the beginning when all that was happening. And it's good to see. that some libertarians are now getting it. Some libertarians are like, they're living in the real world and looking for real world solutions

while still hoping that there is something that their vision, you know, can happen down the line. Right. But if you're not willing to, if you're not willing to like take the little, the little victories and build towards something, that means you're just waiting for things to collapse

or you're waiting for things to change overnight. And that's not going to happen. I mean, collapse. The people who are in charge right now are living way too well, way too high on the hog, to let this collapse. Employers, did you know,

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dollars and now whenever I was because I just got back from Namibia a few weeks ago and uh whenever I was in at he never that is Namibia it's south southwestern Africa okay you heard of the skeleton coast not really no okay well that's that it's like south Africa and just a little bit north northwest of south Africa as Namibia it's where beatrice yeah okay yeah it's where Beatrix dad's from. He's from Namibia. So I went,

I went and met him in South Africa and then we flew over to Namibia and did like a two week road trip through Namibia. That's cool. That's awesome. It was awesome. But, but yeah,

like whenever I was in like in Keith Row, it was like the, it was like a dollar 25, the euro was. And that was, I mean, that's down almost like 50% since the beginning of the year. Oh,

I'll give you one even better. When I was growing up, and I'm older than you, I'm probably. years older than you. When I was growing up, the British pound was $2 to $1, one of our dollars. It's $1.25 now. It was almost like for decades, it was pegged at $2 to the American, to one American dollar. And now all of a sudden is down a buck and a quarter. And now it's down 75 cents. I mean, that's over, it's over 66%. It's 66%.

Is 66%? Yeah, roughly 6%. I mean, there's something happening, and it's Jerome Powell. It's what Powell's been doing. And to stop him from doing that right now is basically saying, okay, I want all of these foreign nations, nations that have their sights set on us to win. and you know i mean you can be an anarchist and go well i don't even believe in states they're legal fictions they don't even exist okay that doesn't change the fact that all of this exists all this infrastructure exists what the money what you use to buy food unless you live in an area

and i know there there are probably a couple people who live in the area who listen to this who can use, you know, cryptocurrency. I mean, but that's the outlier. 99. You know, high percentage of people are relying upon the U.S. dollar in order to do this, you know, in order to live. Okay, well, why would you want to see that go bad?

I mean, yeah, and I understand, oh, Pete, you're not even thinking about it. Look at how much inflation went up. I completely understand that. you understand it could be worse, right? Yeah. You understand it could be a lot worse if Powell didn't raise interest rates the way he did. And he was like, well, he was just trying to raise interest rates

to fight inflation. Okay, maybe, or maybe he was raising interest rates to make it impossible to make it harder for our enemies to buy our money. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, it's, but that, right now, the city of London, is like going to like st kitts and all these different places to try and buy our debt that china's

selling just so that they can have something that is worth something you know they're getting money from um they're getting gold from argentina malay sending gold to the city of london for you know from argentina so they can have money to lend it they can have collateral to lend against you know and longo said on the show that he thought that they set that gold to buy the Falkland Islands. I'm sorry, I did some research. And, you know, I love Tom, but we get, we get stuff. You know, we're off on stuff often.

And I'm not finding any research showing, especially since they just found new, new, they're doing new drilling there. I don't think England's giving that up. So you got to wonder, well, why did that gold go there? And I'm not saying anything about Malay. I don't, you know, I know a lot of people are just all over that. guy's dick. But I don't trust, I don't trust someone. I need to see somebody like dramatically improving things over over a couple years. And I think, you know, what we've seen,

Malay from all the numbers I've seen, as long as you're true, he's improving things. And I hope that that stays that way because I think Argentina is a great country and great people. But whether you Believe it or not, Powell has made our lives better by staving off these people, these forces like the World Economic Forum and the Bank of London and, you know, these, the ECB, the European Central Bank, from taking over and doing great damage to this country. And when I say country, I mean, people. I'm no fan of the government of this country, especially this regime. But, I mean, I care about the people. And I know that that's even anathema to some libertarians. I had a very popular libertarian economist.

You know, when I was talking about one time I talked about, you know, this will help people. He's like, why are you looking to save people? Okay. Well, I mean, that's... Well, I'm certainly not looking to harm people, you know? Yeah. I mean, part of that perspective also comes back to, you know, our, you know, our strengthening of our faith and Christianity is because I know, like, prior to like, stumbling head first

into orthodoxy as clumsily as I did, that everything I looked at, every policy I looked at, it was from my own lens. I didn't care about anybody else. I wasn't worried about anybody else. And now, like, now I find myself like, like much more softhearted towards other people and how it affects other people, um, when, when the, when the government is, you know, abusing their power. And, you know, I would, I would do stories on police, police violence and stuff like that. But it was, it was more out of selfish, like, I don't want this to happen to me, you know, like more than it was like I cared about what happened to that. person. And I feel like that is completely flipped over the last like two years.

Well, if you're doing episodes on the police violence, you're basically showing how you're exposing how people are being taken advantage of. And there's something good about that. You know, something that my friend Stormy Waters, obviously not his real name, talks about it is. It is not obvious. Remember the, my boss's name is Stormy. is it really that's amazing but um he the first time he and i ever got on the phone he had like uh he had dm me like in february and then we didn't

get on the phone with each other until like i guess july or august and one of the first things he asked me was he said over the last few years have you found that you've been like more emotional like it's almost like you're going through like menopause or something like that Like you'll see a story in the news, and it's not like you get weepy, but you get like a righteous anger and that it can cause you to get misty and almost like, you know, what, and I was like, yeah, I've been. And what's funny is we talked, we, everyone we talk to, we, most of the people, guys are like, yeah, that's where I've been. And I've gotten to the point where if you don't, if that hasn't been you, because I see that as a shift in,

you know, what Moran Chuk talks about, the spirit of the age, where he talks about, you're going from, like, the age of the devouring mother to the vengeful son. And when that happens, when you have these shifts, it's almost like a shift in consciousness, and it causes people to, their emotions to be a lot more in tune with what's going on. And, you know, Stormy said this, he said this the other, I think it was on our last panel show that we're doing, the Inquisition, he said, if you're somebody who hasn't really hasn't been experiencing that in the last three or four years, is I don't really want anything to do with you. You know, you're not helpful to me.

You're not, you're not somebody who's going to help change things for, you know, in the direction, you know, for human flourishing. That's not you. You're, if you can look at like, you know, it's like, like, like, like, you know, we're recording this on the day that the verdict came down to Daniel Penny is not going to jail. Yes. I almost started crying.

You know? And, you know, if that's not, you know, if that's not, if that doesn't elicit that kind of emotion out of you, then it tells me that you're probably not

in tune with what's been going on in the world, especially since COVID. Maybe you don't see, Maybe you see COVID as tyranny, where I just see it as like an abstract evil force took over and just went after us, went after humanity and unleashed something on humanity that should have opened a lot of people's eyes to where we're going, but also should have understood that, you know, there are people. out there who really want you dead. And if you're not taking that seriously, if the way you take that seriously is by going, I just need to read more Rothbard

and I just need to get more people to read anatomy of the state, you're not going to make it. I mean, you're not, yeah, you're not, and I definitely don't want you, I definitely don't want you on my side because this is all spiritual warfare. all of it.

Yeah. And to not recognize that, to be so blind to that, then, you know, the Bible says that God will blind people and harden their hearts towards certain things. And you can complain and say he's, you know, he shouldn't do that, but, you know, he has a monarch and he's a king and can do what he wants. And especially if you're not willing to come over in our direction, you know, you know, come over in the direction of people who actually see what's going on in the world right now. I've heard Stormy asked that question before, and maybe it was just the way he worded it.

It didn't really strike me the way that you just worded it. It like the way you just put it like, I always just thought that was just my conversion, right? Like, I just thought that because I went from being like kind of embittered and angry at the world. for so long and that's kind of what drove me into libertarianism and agorism and all that and and then finding orthodoxy I just felt like the softening on my heart like the like becoming more sympathetic and empathetic towards towards society and towards the world and I thought that was just my conversion but it's very yeah no it's very possible that it's just being in tune with the spiritual

warfare that's going on around us. It's either or in both. It's all of it. Yeah. It's all of it. Yeah, I mean, you're, you know, you have to find a way to fight it. You know, I've, I think I've found a very comfortable way to fight it. And, well, a way to fight it that works for me.

But, you know, one of the things Stormy and I are going to start a new series on Wednesday, and it's going to be all about in the metaphysical. and what can't be seen, and mysticism, and how this government, how this government figured out how to use metaphysics as a weapon against its enemies, and how this has been declassified. And how you, once you start reading those papers,

which I was reading like 10 years ago, but I wasn't ready for it. It was papers that I had stumbled upon declassified stuff, I'd stumbled upon 10 years ago and I just wasn't ready for it. And now I'm reading it again and I'm like, oh, wow. I, wow, we can actually fight this and we can actually fight this and we don't need bullets. I mean, we can win and we don't need bullets. Well, can I ask you something on kind of, I mean, it kind of runs parallel with this,

at least in my mind it does. Okay. So, so Tom had made a comment on your podcast that any, who's worried about the BRICS nations is like basically half ass retarded. They don't know what they're talking about. And they're they're just they're looking at it all wrong. When I don't look at like what just happened in Syria over the weekend, I'm looking at the Ukraine, Russia, you know, conflict.

I'm looking at China, you know, getting ready to annex Taiwan. You see what's going on with Israel and Gaza. It really looks like there's the beginning of this global world. war like occurring a world war three you know you might call it and with with america sticking its nose all over the place and in financing a lot of these wars how much of this you think is is related to jerome powell and and his his kind of like budding heads with the city of London. How much do you find that this is spiritual? How much of it is just the American hegemon trying to, you know, get full-scale domination across the world? Like, what are we looking at as

far as the conflicts, the way that it coordinates with the money supply and the spiritual war that we've been dealing with? I think we're looking at a dying regime. And it's a regime that has controlled the whole of the West. You know, what people call the West, Western culture, Western European culture hasn't existed in 80 years.

Once they split up, once the war ended, and you know, they had to defeat those evil Nazis. So let's give half of Europe to the communists. Once they split that up, the

the western side of Europe and the United States needed to become one. The whole goal was to tear everything down so that there was no longer a thing, such a thing as a German or a Swede or a Brit. And a lot of that first started in Britain with a lot of immigration,

the wind rush ships in 1948. coming in, bringing in Jamaicans. And basically what you've seen, and you see this, the plan was actually laid out in a book called The authoritarian personality, was done by Theodore Derno and three other guys from the Frankfurt School. And they basically said, okay, so what makes someone a fascist, what potentially makes someone a fascist, and how do we stop them from becoming fascists?

and they basically said they needed to tear down the family. They needed to stop, prevent people from going to church. Basically anything that was traditional needed to be not only destroyed but also delegitimized in the eyes of the public. And you will talk to a lot of libertarians who find that to be, you know, oh, that's in our past. and it happened.

And the way we know that that book, first of all, then you go back and you find out that the Frankfurt School was working with the CIA. And, you know, that's how that it's like, people are like, well, that just said that in a book. It's like, well, it came true, right? You know, interesting that it actually came true. You know, it's like, you know, the book Rules for Radicals.

Yeah, that's just a book. we see those rules played out in everyday life all the time, and they weren't. So basically, the West was destroyed. And the one thing that they didn't rely upon, and this is something that you saw, the turning point for me that I can point to is October 7th. After October 7th, when you read the authoritarian personality, you look at who wrote it.

There's four people who wrote it. It's kind of hard to ignore that three of the names are from the same tribe. And then you look at the World Jewish Congress, and they put out these videos that say that we were responsible for the civil rights act. We were responsible for women voting. We were responsible for this. We were responsible for that. we were responsible for gay rights. And yeah, they actually use Harvey Milk, somebody who like was known to be having a relation, you know, relations with 14-year-olds and 15-year-olds.

They're actually bragging about this. And, you know, they took over the universities, too. You know, and what's funny is you'll have Christopher Rufo just talked recently about how, you know, how successful. the Jewish people have been in academia. Yet he's somebody who attacks academia. After October 7th, they realize some of the people who are the thought leaders in this, or the forebearer, the people who are carrying on the tradition of this, of deracination and destroying the nuclear family and destroying and seeking to get people to not be

Americans, not be Americans anymore or not be Germans. It's more important to do it in Europe because that's where the war was. People started, well, all these people who didn't grow up in church and weren't taught that Israel is God's people and that they can do what they want. And if Israel doesn't rebuild the second temple, Jesus isn't going to come back. Well, you have a a whole generation of people now who didn't go to church to learn that. Where would they possibly learn that?

And they started revolting on campuses. And they went oh shit. Our golems are turning on us. And you saw panic. Anybody who remembers the Ben Shapiro

videos, Dave Rubin, who had never even talked about being Jewish in the passing, except in passing. You saw all these people who like, all of a sudden they had this awakening of their identity, or maybe they had their identity all along, and they were just all along,

and they were just hiding it, and they felt like they had to bring it out now, and people went, and a lot of other people, who, I mean, I was already awakened to this. I was awakened to this in 1998, went, wait a minute how do these people have so much has this one group have so much power and i think

it caused insane panic within jewish power left and right especially right wing israel just started going nuts started killing people randomly killing civilians didn't matter just dropping bombs on them. And, you know, of course, they get to say that everyone they kill is Hamas. Everyone we killed as a terrorist, all four, every two-year-old we killed as a terrorist or a potential terrorist. Or is human shield. Yeah, or, yeah, human shield. That's always my favorite, too. Massad headquarters is right in the middle of a busy Tel Aviv neighborhood. But that's not a human shield. I mean, if you were, if you were going to go to war with them and you wanted to take out their intelligence, you'd have to take out

a residential neighborhood. But that wouldn't be considered a human shield. That wouldn't be considered using, being human shields. And I think they went into panic mode. And I think that's what you're seeing. I think you're seeing is crap. A bunch of people have started

to recognize that we have this overrepresented power in a lot of different things. Thomas Massey coming out on Tucker's podcast and saying that everyone everyone in Congress has an 8-pack handler

um Candice Owens starting to talk about things people just people talking about this and it becoming an open conversation and people who are listening to this right now who are like this is complete anti-Semitism people's talk of pizza talking about. Because you're just not allowed to talk about this. If you talk about black

crime, oh yeah, I mean, that's racist. You know, I mean, you shouldn't be taught, you know, you start making socioeconomic, socioeconomic arguments and excuses and everything. But it's a special kind of evil if you talk about these kind of people. When you talk about Jews, when you bring up the fact that, oh, who started the Ukraine war, Victoria Newland and who prosecuted Anthony Blinken, they're all from one tribe, and all of their ancestors come from Ukraine, and there's more synagogues in Odessa than there are in all of Israel. And you're like, look what they're doing to the, look what they're doing to the traditional Orthodox church in Ukraine.

I mean, they're completely decimating it. If you, you can follow Father John Whiteford on, on his telegram, and he's got stories after story after story day after day, how they're completely desecrating the icons, how they're completely desecrating the church, how they're like just, you know, perversely, you know, going in there and, you know, putting on this liturgy and turning it into like a clown mass type of situation like you had with the Catholics a while back, you know, and it's just this complete perversion of the whole Orthodox faith. And it's like, what is happening and why are we allowing this to happen.

And what a Jewish president? And a Jewish president is doing it, you know, is presiding over it. And I think that's what we're seeing. I think we're seeing, but I mean, honestly, I think what happened over the weekend is, you know, it's like you said earlier. You said Israel is going to be the last domino to fall.

I think what happened over the weekend, this was my opinion on Saturday night when they called it. I said, they went to Russia. I don't know who they is. It could be the Trump administration. It could be the incoming administration or the current administration or a combination of both and said, we will give you what you want in Ukraine, wind everything down, and went to Iran and said, we will leave you alone. You just can't back Syria. You can't back Syria and what's happening right now.

And I think somebody also got a hold of the Syrian Arab army. because the Syrian Arab Army is one of the greatest armies on the planet. And they stood down. So somehow this huge group, I mean, there's no way. Okay, so anyone who knows anything about the Syrian Arab Army knows that there is no way any foreign force or any force within there, the quote unquote moderate rebels, Al-Qaeda, whatever they're calling themselves now, could take that country in a week. in less than a week. But they did. And it's because some kind of deal was made

and some kind of stand-down order was made. I'm just glad that Assad and his family are in Russia and they're safe. Because I did not want to see that great man end up like Gaddafi in the streets. Yeah. And, yeah, that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing, I think that they managed to,

you know, Israel managed to pull a W out of all this. Now, what's happening now? I mean, looks like infrastructure's being bombed. It looks like the country is going to be left to head shoppers. Just like every other country has left to headchoppers everywhere. But what I think you're seeing is, is it, to go back to your question, is it because of Powell, maybe a little bit, maybe that's a consideration.

but I think it has more to do with what happened on October 7th and that a lot of people's eyes were just opened and a lot of people's consciousness even on on the Israeli side were awakened and you saw what you've been seeing since October 7th is you've basically been seeing a war you've been seeing a war of ideologies I even think that I think that left

left liberal Jews and conservative Jews are having a war with each other to this day. I think that started on July, on October 7th as well. Just from the Russian perspective, I just wanted to ask. So you think there was a deal cut with Russia that they would take Assad and give him refuge and return.

The Ukraine war winds down. They get the Donbass and Crimea. in exchange they give up their naval base in Syria? Right, because if they get their naval, if they get Donbass and if they get Donbass and Crimea, they don't need a port. They don't need that port in the Mediterranean anymore. Now they have,

now they have ports. Now they have port access to the south. And, you know, Iran obviously just wants to be left alone. And the whole Iran thing was, was bluster anyway because anyone who studied this, and I've done several episodes on this, you can't win a war with Iran. No, you don't want to go to war with Iran in Iran, especially.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can draw them out. You can draw them out and maybe fight them in Iraq or fight them, get them to come to Syria or something like that, but you cannot win a war in Iran. First of all, you have no place to stage from. The last war gaming that I heard, from a friend of mine who was actually part of that war gaming,

which has been declassified now in the aughts, was they were gonna stage from Azerbaijan. They can't, you can't stage. Azerbaijan isn't even a good place to stage from. You're not gonna be able to stage from Turkey. You're not gonna be able to stir a stage from Afghanistan. You'd have to reinvade Iraq to go Iraq. It's just not a war that can be won.

And you can't even win that war from the air. Right. Because you, because of, I mean, the first thing you want to do when you consider any kind of war, even air war, is pull up a topographical map of the area. It's all mountains. And you have S-400 systems, possibly S-500 systems sitting behind those mountains. And they can pretty much shoot anything down. So. The only, the only thing I consider is I heard somebody talking about this the other day, that if the U.S. we're going to like declare war on Iran they wouldn't they wouldn't stage in

Azerbaijan and and actually go to kinetic war what they would do is they would just shut off all the imports of food going into Iran because Iran can't really grow anything and so they depend on imports for food and so they would just starve them out you'd have to you'd have to have rush on your side Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, you'd have to have to rush on your side because Russia would figure out a way. Iran has been such a great ally to Russia that they would make sure that Russia, Iran got taken care of. So you'd have to find a way for Russia to shut them out.

Turkey's a wild card in all this. Nobody even knows what Turkey is now. I mean, just six months ago, they were threatening to invade Israel. And then now they just, you know, help to topple Syria. Yeah. So who the hell knows what's going on? I mean, there's so much to this. And I really just think it's going towards the post-war consensus is dying.

You're seeing more conservative leadership being elected in European countries. Even when they say, like they just did in Romania, where they just said no, they made it invalid. all that does is just empower, empower the right, you know, what you can call the right, or what I would call nationalists. It empowers nationalists more. And you're not going to be able to do that. You're not going to be able to stop them forever. It's like, you know, they're talking about alternative for Deutsche and AFD in Germany.

Oh, well, you know, we just outlaw them. Okay. You're just going to make them stronger. you're just going to make, you're going to, there's going to be more people. You're going to have smarter people who are going to, yeah. I mean, right now, we're in that midpoint where the old world, this old regime still has a lot of power and is doing a lot of damage. But to anybody who can see, and especially if you look at it from a metaphysical lens, you can see that it's dying. You can see that it's being defeated.

You can see, you know, if you know your Bible, if you know your church history, you can see what's happening with this regime and this ideology that's taken over the West and basically destroyed it. And you can see how it's phasing out and how you're going to have this shift. Now, that shift can happen. That shift can take 50 to 100 years. But it's obvious that it's happening. You know, I've said, I said probably a year, a year and a half ago that I thought that the spirit of the new age was going to be authoritarianism, either left or right authoritarianism. And I don't think it's going to be left authoritarianism because that's basically what it's been for 100 years. But that's also not something that can normally happen overnight.

People are going to have to become accommodated to it. I think the spirit of the age. And I think Marantzuk, when Marantzuch talks about, you know, the vengeful sun archetype, that points towards authoritarianism. And, you know, given the choice of left or right, I would choose right, but I'm ready for left, too. So, you know, I'm just, I'm just realistic. I mean, would I like to live in a, you know, nice, in a community that was so tight, knit and insular that it could be live like a have a libertarian kind of sure but that also depends on it being monocultural and and you know people sharing the same values and everything like that

i don't think that happens and i don't think you know another thing that i've said that i know a lot of people you know just haven't listened to me in a while but i've said that you know the reason Singapore works. Singapore is not monocultural. People will look at it and go, well, it's Asians. It's different Asian groups. Asian groups hate each other.

I mean, you think the Chinese and the Japanese like each other? Right. You think the Chinese and the Vietnamese like each other? I mean, the reason they get along and why Singapore is seen by, I mean, I know

libertarians who move there. You know, Bitcoin, like people who made a ton of money off of Bitcoin and they move there. The reason why it's so orderly and why you can drop your wallet and someone will pick it up and chase you for six blocks to give it back to you is because it's an authoritarian regime. You can't have multiculturalism without the threat of, without the threat of, you know, somebody of the state clamping down upon you or someone clamping down upon you and, you know, whipping you, which they do, they do lashes with, I forget what kind, they cane people, like, publicly. Right.

Well, that's the way you, if you want to have a multicultural society, to me, the only way I can see that that works is by having that, by having authoritarianism and by having that kind of threat hanging over people's heads. the only way you're going to have peace, you know, when you go to, you know, when people talk about places in the world where there isn't a lot of crime, well, by El Salvador right now, it's El Salvador a libertarian? I think a lot of people would say that Buckele is a dictator,

a benevolent dictator. where do you have or like one of my other favorites is well you know the reason those cities are so violent is because they have Democrat mayors Vermont, New Hampshire

and Maine have Democrat mayors all over the place. Big cities what three states are in the top five of like least amount of crime and violence in the country,

Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. What do they have in common? Are they monoculture? Are they multicultural? Maybe start taking that into consideration. And then you look at places like New York City where, unless you have a cop on every other corner, which they did when Giuliani cleaned up

the city, quote unquote, cleaned up the city, you're going to have violence. So, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I've come to. That's what a lot of people will say is just completely racist and anti-Semitic and all sorts of phobics. And I don't care because I know I'm right. Yeah, your give a fuck meter broke a few years ago. So I don't know why they waste their breath.

Yeah. Well, all right, man. Plug away. I got to get off here. Yep. Pekina show, all podcatchers, doing a really good series

with my friend Thomas now on California, the history of California and how California went from the red estate in the nation to what it is now. And it wasn't organic. Let's just say that.

And it's still a red state. Most people just don't. aren't willing to accept that. Pizzaubstack.com where I try to do three things a week. I'm taking care of my wife now with, after her surgery, so I'm not having a lot of time to do stuff in the morning.

So I'll be in and out on that until she heals up a little more. And then the Old Glory Club, old glory club.com. See what we're doing, having chapters open up all over the country, and we're looking to, it's a fraternity. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. It's a fraternity of each other up and help each other succeed in whatever we wish to do.

Well, Pete, man, I appreciate that you're always willing to come on and chat with me and just be open and about how you feel about things, man. It's always fun to have these conversations. No man, I appreciate it. Tommy. I wish I, last time I was in Texas recently, I wish I could have seen you, but you were, I think that you were traveling. That was when you were traveling. Yeah, probably. I was, I was gone most of October. So. Yeah. Yeah, that's when we were there. Yeah, I got, I got back like middle of November. So I was gone about three, three weeks. Yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you for inviting me on. Absolutely, man. I'm going to stop the recording.