The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete's Appearance on Coffee and a Mike Talking Post-Election Vibes

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:32 tariffa, o'an'tashtoagin. Follam nis more in Ergrid, Ponga-I. All right, Pete, so we're talking about blackpilled, and somebody, I don't want to give credit to somebody writing on X, because I know, take it for whatever it is, it was, you know, a small account saying, you know, how you're doom and gloom before the election, and you still are doom and gloom, you know, with conversations that I've had. So, here, let's just pick up our... where we left off. You asked me a question. Yeah, I said, I mean, is that what you're,
Starting point is 00:02:03 is that what you're selling or is that actually just who you are? Because I actually believe that there are people out there who are black pill that I'm not talking about my friend Devon Stack here, who's named, who the name of his podcast is blackpilled. I'm talking about there are people out there selling black pills who, when somebody tries to confront them on it and say, well, is there anything to be hopeful for? They won't answer. And what that tells me is, is that their whole business model is blackpilled. And they're selling black pills and they're not willing to give any hope because somehow if they said something positive, all the people who are watching them and supporting them may leave. You know, may be like, oh, no, no, everything's,
Starting point is 00:02:50 falling apart. Everything, there's no hope. I come to you to reinforce my belief. that there is no hope for anything. And if a person were to say, well, you know, we could possibly be doing this and this could stave it off or this could be, they never give an answer. I'm thinking to one person in particular who doesn't even live in the United States, as an American who doesn't live in the United States. So, you know, it's, I've never had that question posed to me. And I don't, I don't, I don't, I mean, I don't know what exactly I'm selling.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I just go by what I feel. And so I look at myself and, you know, you disagree with me, might disagree with me. But I try to be objective. And maybe it's not as much blackpilled as I, you know, in terms of being a skeptic. And I'll admit, and I've said this a million times on here. I mean, the election didn't go the way I thought it would. I thought they would install her. I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You were right. You called it. You said it'd be very early in the evening on Tuesday. You and I actually haven't spoken since then, I don't think. Right, yeah. And you were right. right before the election and now we're, now it's after the election. Yeah, because you said, I don't think it's going to be, it's going to be early into Tuesday
Starting point is 00:04:01 evening or whatever. It'd be pretty early. It wasn't going to be dragged out days. And, yeah, I thought they would install her. And so it didn't, it didn't play out the way I thought it did. But, you know, so I wouldn't say I'm blackpilled right now, but I'm also skeptical because I feel like this justice that we've been called for of accountability, I just have haven't seen it in the last five years.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You know, when you look at, you know, the Cyber Ninja audit, the Durham report, I'm sure I'm missing something in between, but Fauci, none of this stuff has come to fruition where people have been, you know, any charges. So how would there be, how do you expect people to be held accountable when their their friends are the ones in power. I mean, the last, you said the last five years specifically, okay? So the last year of Trump's, of Trump's presidency is just this wash of everything from, you know, the, the COVID and the, the Floyd riots and then the election and then, you know, capping it off with Jan 6 and everything. So, I mean, that's just like a lost year of insanity.
Starting point is 00:05:29 But, I mean, under Joe Biden, I mean, Joe Biden literally went on TV and said that 30% of the country was semi-fascist and that they were based, and they were the enemy. So how would you expect anybody within the regime within this managerial state that has been in power for 80, for over 80 years, which is a monolith, which just keeps going no matter what president is in charge? and now you have someone who I don't know so much that he is saying that he's going to take these people down but he has people around him unlike in 2016
Starting point is 00:06:03 who are saying look I know how to do this I know how to hold people accountable I mean these people are fucking scared of Matt Gates Matt Gates when you watch interviews with him somebody I'm convinced somebody told Matt Gates where all the bodies are buried because when he when he talks about what's what's
Starting point is 00:06:22 wrong and what's going on. And then of course, you know, there are some Jewish businessman who's facing 33 counts has been sentenced to 11 years, has impersonated a police officer, has stolen people's information when he worked for the tax, when he worked for the department of revenue, has been accused of human trafficking. This is your, this is your, this is, is the person who is the main quote unquote witness against Matt Gates in a supposedly 17, some supposedly 17 year old girl thing. I mean, I don't know that anything's going to happen, but you have a better chance of things happening, people being held accountable now than you did when the first time Trump got elected, who had no appointments at all. I mean, the appointments
Starting point is 00:07:20 were absolutely insane. And now he's bringing in a bunch of loyalists, a bunch of outsiders, a bunch of people who I don't really, some of them I don't like at all, I think are fucking terrible. But the main thing is, if you want to see people held accountable,
Starting point is 00:07:38 there's at least a chance with Matt Gates at the helmet AG. And the deputy AG is Trump's personal lawyer, would be Trump's personal lawyer. So he would just step in and he just wants to do anything that Trump, He just follows orders from Trump. And then you have RFK at the head of HHS.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I mean, they have a bigger budget than DOD does. And he hates all these people. Wrote a tome, you know, wrote a tome about these people. And, I mean, do I think anything's going to happen? No idea. That there's a better chance of people being held accountable. for what they've done now, than there was if Kamala Harris would have won. Kamala Harris would have won.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Elon Musk would probably go to jail for something. They would take all his companies away from them. They'd probably nationalized Starlink, nationalized SpaceX, or give it to one of their buddy or give them to one of their friends, would probably seek to put anybody who spoke out against them in jail because they would have the mandate. There would be nothing that basically. the GOP would be done and over. And the GOP, 98% of the GOP is just basically on the regime side.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So, I mean, if anything, it's four years of breathing room, where you're not worried about the hand of the state coming down and crushing you because, you know, you happen to check out the wrong library book at some point or you bought the wrong thing off of Amazon at one point. I don't know how, I mean, I can understand just being skeptical. I could understand being, well, you know, we got to wait and see.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But being blackpilled at this point, I mean, I just, then I think that's what your disposition is. I think that nothing is going to change that. I mean, I just don't see. You're just going to be, you're one of those people who nothing, nothing's ever going to get better. And I'm sure there are still people in El Salvador who have the same kind of attitude of,
Starting point is 00:09:54 there must be something wrong with Buckelly, man. Buckelly, you know, I know he's put all these people in jail. I know that we become the safest place in the northern hemisphere, in the western hemisphere, the safest country in the western hemisphere. But no, the shoe's going to fall, man. Something's going to happen. I'm sure there are people like that and still in El Salvador, but I don't know how to help them.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, I would say, say, I would say I'm skeptic. I wouldn't say blackpilled. And I don't, you know, I don't think I'm all doom and gloom, but I just, I like to raise questions as we go into this. One, you know, what do you, I mean, what do you think between now and January 20th? Do you think it'll be smooth? There's no way to really know. Well, I mean, from what I'm seeing so far, if, if everything, well, I mean, you have to take into consideration, there are still people in the White House and there are still people in the administration who, you know, don't care if Russia nukes Ukraine and sends a nuke this way. I mean, they just apparently just don't seem to fucking care, which is why January 20th can't come fast enough.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's my main worry. My main worry is that we have a foreign policy right now that is so absolutely insane that, you know, let's, you know, let's, you know, let's make. make it until January 20th. And if we do see a nuclear volley, can you send one my way? Because I don't want to survive the first one. I don't want to be around for the second one coming. But that's all that I see right now.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I don't see this whole, you have Mika Virginski and Joe Scarborough going to Mar-Lago or wherever they met him. I don't know where it was. And basically saying, yeah, we need to have a. I mean, these are people who were just basically saying not only was he the most evil man alive, but anybody who supported him was evil. And so you see all these people backing down. Ready for huge savings?
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Starting point is 00:12:58 Terms and conditions apply. Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited, trading as Cooper Financial Services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. You know, what I most worry about is the foreign policy at this point, until January 20th. I don't think Trump, I think Trump, and all I'm going off of is, is history. All I'm going off of is past performance. And I know it's no guarantee of a future outcome. But mostly what I saw from Trump is he does not like wars. He thinks they're bad for business. And I think he wants the Ukraine, this thing in Ukraine wrapped up as quick as possible
Starting point is 00:13:38 and needs to be stopped. And I don't see him doing anything for Israel either. I think he wants that stopped. And if it is true that Elon Musk went to New York and spoke to the UN delegate from Iran, some people are saying that didn't happen. Some people are saying it happened. If that is true, that tells me that Trump wants all of this shit in the Middle East, you know, in the Levant to stop. And, you know, I don't, the one thing that I do know from past performances, Trump just does not want wars. That's important. to me. Foreign policy is important to me. If we cannot have any wars and maybe have some, you know, some kind of dismantling of the managerial state, whatever that would look like.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And some of the people that he's appointed, that looks like that's what their goals are. then I think we you know we only have you know where we can be cautiously optimistic and I think that's that's not a bad thing to do
Starting point is 00:14:51 but you know really the most important thing besides the wars is immigration and from everything I'm seeing it looks like he is making immigration and remigration a priority and it seems like there are reports that some people are already self-deporting.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Some people are worried. I heard out of Springfield that some of the Haitians are like, we need to get out of here. Well, they'll just go somewhere else. They're not going back to Haiti. Sorry. They're just going to go someplace and try to hide in the country. But as far as, you know, we need mass deportations.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I think that's the one thing that if he could do anything and keep us out of wars, then, you know, I mean, I think. think that would it would just be a good thing. I think it would be breathing room. If we don't have mass deportations, if we don't have, you know, if he starts a war or continues, continues a war and fights it very strong, you know, very fervently, then, I mean, I really, then we just have to hope for, like, secession movements to start, because de facto or de jure, we just, that's what we're going to end. because then there won't be any hope.
Starting point is 00:16:10 If we're surrounded by 50 to 60 million people who don't belong here, don't share our values, don't share our culture, and are just leeches on the system, you know, we have enough leeches on the system when it comes to natural-born people. We don't need these people from the outside, especially we have crime. We don't need additional crime. We have all sorts of problems. We don't need additional problems. So, you know, I think there is, there are things to look forward to.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Do I, you know, some people have mentioned, oh, do they try to kill him again? Possibly. But what I think is really crazy is if you look at the QNC UFC fight the other night, you have people walking up to him and the Secret Service isn't even really, I mean, I mean, it just, it's odd. I mean, people are doing the dance. People have, they've made him into a folk hero almost at this point. And I mean, the public.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I mean, people who would have never voted for him in 2016 and 2020 are supporting him publicly. I mean, I just think there's, if nothing else, there's a real shift in the way people view. the regime that has been that has existed for 80 to 90 years you know especially since world war two and especially since nuremberg yeah he's a phenomenon no no question about it i mean in that walkout in the u sc fight on saturday i mean that was unbelievable i mean it's we haven't i don't think we've ever oh we've never seen anything like this i mean ever i mean this is not this is beyond Obama. You know, people,
Starting point is 00:18:09 Obama was just a, you know, an astro-turfed, created person. You know, his mother, you know, his mother worked for the,
Starting point is 00:18:20 worked, I don't know if she worked for, but she definitely worked with the CIA. I don't know who the hell his dad is. Um, his mom was friends with Timothy Geithner's mom from like early days and everything. Obama was like a, it was created to,
Starting point is 00:18:33 created in a lab to be president one day. I mean, he gave the frigging the keynote speech with the 2004 convention. When he was, I think he, at that time, he was either senator-elect or he was still a just a Illinois senator or something like that. I mean, that's just, that's just created. That's just propaganda. That's not with Trump. Trump's, organic as it gets when you look at the phenomena that's happening right now. How about the fight? How about when John Jones won the fight and he's doing the Trump dance?
Starting point is 00:19:14 And Rogan's calling the fight. He goes, he's doing the Trump dance. He's doing the Trump dance. I mean, these are not people, you know, John Jones being, you know, being black is not supposed to signal that he likes Donald Trump. And there are people everywhere who are signaling that they're signaling that they, like Donald Trump. I remember when I first moved to Alabama, my friend Jeff Dice told me, he said,
Starting point is 00:19:39 you know, if you go up this highway right here, there's a little community out here that's historically black. And if you go back in there, there's Trump flags everywhere. You know, and I'm not saying that you need to pander to the black boat because I don't think that really helps. It historically doesn't help, especially with black women. Black men broke a little more for Trump this time. But, you know, it's not of if, if, if, if, if, it's.
Starting point is 00:20:03 If you're on that side of the aisle, it's not really a demographic that you should be pandering to. You should be pandering to white America, my opinion. Not pandering to, but just letting white America know. I know your ancestors founded this place, and we'd like to see it that way again. We'd like to see order here again and not be occupied by foreign powers like we are now. But it's just it's it's incredible that Trump even from 2016 pulled people over to his side that would have never went over to his side. I mean, let's remember lifelong, lifelong Democrat RFK is on,
Starting point is 00:20:46 RFK Jr's on his side. Tulsi Gabbard switched parties to come over and be on the side. There's a lot of people who see that change needs to be made. and maybe Trump isn't the person who's going to make the changes, but right now he's the symbol of that. So, I mean, I think that's a part of it. So you feel, do you feel good where things are at, or are you in that, you're in that cautiously optimistic? I mean, I have to remain, I have to remain optimistic because it's just, I spent too much of my life
Starting point is 00:21:28 being a negative person, being somebody who is just constantly expecting the worst. And as you get older, you realize that if you stay like that, it affects your health, it affects your mental health, your mental health, it affects your physical health. And I think a lot of people who, you know, are black-billed right now, you know, are going to look a whole lot older than me when they get to my age. and, you know, I think it's, I don't think there's any reason to sound an alarm other than the fact that we are an occupied government. Americans do not control this government right now at this, right at this exact moment. We are not, Americans are not in charge. And until that gets fixed, until we see some kind of breathing room, some kind of,
Starting point is 00:22:26 of even domestically, because I don't know that much is going to change foreign policy-wise, even if a new war isn't started. Even if he winds down or pulls people back from Syria, pulls people out of Africa, pulls troops out of Africa. Hopefully on the domestic front, we start seeing a fight back against this occupation that we've been under since World War II. How did you switch then from being, quote, negative, what changed it? Was it one isolated event?
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Starting point is 00:24:24 when I was a liberal... When I promoted libertarianism, when I had a libertarian podcast, and when I promoted anarcho-capitalism, it's very blackpilling. People will... They will try to tell you, it isn't, but it is.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You're basically your whole life is, your whole life is saying, look, I examine the situation and I told you so. But you never desire or you're precluded from by much of the ideology of
Starting point is 00:24:56 desiring the kind of power it would take to change anything. Really, 2020 was a turning point for me and I was in a panic most of 2020. But Once I got past 2020 and I realized, Pete, let me interrupt you.
Starting point is 00:25:13 What were you to panic for personally or just where the state of the world was? Both. I mean, yeah, I didn't know. I had a decent job at that time. You know, I worked for a very large corporation multinational. And I mean, I had that job as long as I wanted until the day I died. And but I mean, I knew that at some point it was going to be like, like they're gonna fall for the jab bullshit.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And then I'm gonna be out of this job and what do I do? You know, do I, have I done enough with my podcast up until this point that I've replaced my income and I'll be able to survive? Am I gonna have health insurance? Am I gonna get sick? Because, you know, when you work for a huge company like that, your benefits are, my benefits were basically on par with most of the people who work for the government. And it just got to the point where when 2021 rolled around and I was just like, yeah, I can't be the person who stands around saying, I told you so anymore. I have to become the kind of person who provides solutions for people and is willing to go out on a limb and even tell people what I think they should do. And also, I came to the conclusion in 2020 that, and this was actually actually,
Starting point is 00:26:36 very white-pilling for me, which would seem kind of odd that most people are waiting around to be told what to do and what to believe. And the people who are in charge are the ones who are willing to do that. The people with the most power are the ones who are willing to tell people, well, this is what you should be doing at this point. This is what you should believe. And I have no guilt about that. I have no guilt about the fact that I would know better how to guide a to protect a culture and how a state should be run than most people. And I know, I think I know better just from my reading of history and going back into history
Starting point is 00:27:32 and really looking at successful, successful countries, cultures, nations. I like nations because nation is about people. It's really not about government. Nation really talks as a nation as its people. What is the best way to have order, the best way to have peace, the best way to, so that you can, your family is, safe and thrives. And once I figured out that people were waiting around to be told what to do, then, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:11 I just made it my goal to acquire as much information as possible to form an opinion behind, you know, what's the best way to go forward considering the situation that we're in, which is, you know, how do a people operate and what do you do when you're occupied? by a foreign power or a foreign ideology. But yet you were able to remain white pill through the whole Biden administration. Oh, yeah. That's a question, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 No, no. I mean, yeah, and I was. It was, I mean, you have your times when you're like, all right, are they going to come, are they going to come for us? Am I, should I be watching what I say? You know, shit, I'm using my real name. You can't worry about that kind of stuff. You're not going to, you know, and I'm not telling people that they should be using their real name and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You know, I mean, some people live in areas where it's just not, it wouldn't be safe for them. Some people live in countries where it wouldn't be safe for them. But, you know, once you have that all out there and you're laying out, and you people know who you are and they and you're willing to say exactly how you feel it's quite liberating it's you're not i'm not hiding anything i'm not hiding anything i there i can't think of anything that i would love to say in public that i haven't and you know it's once you do that And once you, once you find a place to live where you, where you're happy, you find a mate that you're happy with, is really, most of the things that you're going to worry about happening to you personally will never happen. You know, when people tell me, oh, you know, they, the police showed up to this person's house and they broke down.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's like, I mean, that's the kind of thing that you have to say to justify your concern or how black-pilled you are when really all you're doing is you're proving me by providing me with the outlier. You know, no one's, for the overwhelming majority of people in this country, no one's coming for you. You should probably be worrying more about the random mob, like private violence versus public violence. I'm not really worried about the violence of the government. Now they could do something overseas that causes another country to attack us. And sure, but I'm not worried about anybody kicking my door in or anything like that. I'm more worried about things getting so bad that you have roving mobs or something. something like that. And, you know, if you're close to a city, if you're in a city and the closer
Starting point is 00:31:39 to a city you are, the more you have to worry about that. So I don't really have anything to worry about. At this point, when I talk about, like, an occupied government or I talk about something, this is me really, like, wanting to see the future better for the people who come after me. and really believing in the things that I believe in that I hold dear enough that I'm willing to go out on a limb to promote it so that we're supposed to, if not leave it the same, we're supposed to leave the world a little better than we left it. You would hope just by technology or by knowledge or something like that. I'm not saying that progress is a great thing. I think that when it comes to governments wanting progress, I think that's probably the most dangerous thing in the history of mankind.
Starting point is 00:32:35 But human beings, you know, wanting to come up with technology that moves us forward or, you know, some kind of knowledge, some kind of reading the past in a way that seeing something in the past that we haven't seen before that hasn't been fleshed out properly and being able to push that forward or some kind of. a scientific breakthrough or something like that, you know, that's important. And I think that the best that we can do is foster an environment where people can do that, where cultures can do that, where groups can do that. And, you know, the best way I see that is, you know, is getting all of this ideological influence out of our politics. And, you know, I've always,
Starting point is 00:33:23 well, I haven't always said, but I've said, you know, come to realize, in the last few years, that really the only thing the state should be there for is to protect culture is to make sure that no one's there to attack you, no one's there to physically, foreign enemies, domestic enemies, enemies around you, and to destroy your culture, and to destroy, to seek to, if you are people who want to keep things a certain way and believe things a certain way or want to worship a certain way, then you should be able to do that without having outside influences coming in, seeking to subvert that. So, you know, that's, you know, my whole goal for the future is to see, you know, if it's not like one state, gigantic state,
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Starting point is 00:35:51 I mean, 99.99% of its time, they're not going to happen. You're just, think about shit that you, I do this all this, all this, time. I do an exercise all the time. I try to remember something from six months ago that I was that really worried me and did that come true. The thing about six weeks ago, there was something that you were really, really, really worried about and it bothered you. It might have caused your mood. Could it even cause chest pains? And never happened. So I try not to worry about, worry about too much stuff. Most of the stuff that I concentrate on is looking towards the future. I'm not worried about it in the now because I know it's very hard to change things in the now.
Starting point is 00:36:37 You have to concentrate on what the next generation is going to look like. Do you ever – and do you ever – this thought ever crossed your mind that, you know, doing what you're doing, saying what you're saying, for you to ever go back to corporate America would be very difficult if people wanted to pull something you said or – Well, the one thing that I am very encouraged by, is that enough people of means and enough people of, we're a very small group now, people who think like I do, you know, a vanguard, basically. Am I part of that vanguard? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I don't know. I don't know. We've never really actually talked about, like, what you're, you know, ideologically, what you would, you know, like a state to look like, or what the purpose. of a state is what you would like your ultimate property, you know, community look like. When I say Vanguard, I'm talking about a very small group. And so
Starting point is 00:37:43 what was the question again? I said if you, saying some of the things you said, do you think it would be difficult for you to go back to corporate America? Well, maybe corporate America, sure, but I mean, I've, I know people who would hire me back in a second, who would hire me in a second. if it came to that because we have enough people who think like me now,
Starting point is 00:38:08 who own companies now, who have built themselves up and who don't really care what other people say that, yeah, I mean, I think if I needed to get a job, I could probably have a job tomorrow because I know enough people who would be willing to hire me.
Starting point is 00:38:29 So, and it's good that we're, I mean, we have billionaires on Twitter who are talking about like Sam Francis's concept of a narco tyranny or retweet or tweeting the cover of Carl Schmidt's book. If anybody doesn't know, Carl Schmidt is considered to be the political theorist of Nazi Germany, that he inspired, you know, the thought of Nazi Germany. And we have, you know, we have tech billionaires who are retweeting these, talking about things that you're. weren't allowed to talk about. Now, I'm not saying that they're going to hire me, but if you have people like that, then when you have billionaires like that who are doing that, other billionaires around them and people who want to be billionaires are looking at what information they have.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And the way it's been described to me how it works in these circles is that if one person gets some information, if one of these power brokers get some information, and then, the other, another power broker hears about it, he thinks that by that person having that information, he has one up on him. So he wants to know what that information is. And then it just, it's this cascade down. And you have all these people. So it's like if people are reading, if, if Mark Andresen is, you know, talking about showing Carl Schmit's book, the concept of the political on Twitter, then other people are looking at that. I'm going, okay, what is that?
Starting point is 00:40:03 What does he know that I need to know, that I should know? Because if there's something there that may be causing him to have a leg up on me, and these are very competitive people. And then, you know, you can, the old, there's an old libertarian concept of, you know, people pursuing their self-interest, by people pursuing their self-interest, you can benefit from that. If it's something that will, by pursuing their self-interest, it's something that could benefit a lot of people. So, you know, I tend to look at it that way.
Starting point is 00:40:35 But no, I don't worry about it because I know that there are enough people now who think like I do, who own companies and have just gotten fearless about it. And even if they're not, even if they don't openly aren't talking about these things, they know about them. And they're pursuing, pursuing them intellectually and, you know, hopefully soon seeking for them to materialize. Yeah, I would say, you know, especially after this election, the DEI, D-E-I trans, LGBTQ, falls under the same category, LGBTQ plus Academy, somebody else had mentioned, is in a bare market? Yeah, I mean, I think we're seeing that. Even AOC took the pronouns out of her bio and she told me that. Started calling, I think she is addressing herself now instead of like Congressperson as Congresswoman. And I mean, the other day she put out a tweet where someone was talking about special interests and she actually named APEC.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So it's like, I mean, I look at an elected official who, who's doing that, and she could be doing that for self-interest. But the fact is, is that a lot of people who read that tweet, who follow AOC, may not even know who APEC is. There are still people, you know, we're so online and we're so into politics. We know who APEC is. We heard Thomas Massey on, even if you really don't, you heard Thomas Massey talking about it on Tucker Carlson. I think that's where a lot of people learn about APEC. But when you see things like that, and then you see people, I've seen, I mean, these are all anecdotal about DEI departments getting dismantled in companies and people just not taking it seriously anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And becoming the butt of more jokes and the HR lady becoming the butt of more jokes. When the jokes start about it, that's when you know that. that it's only a matter of time. And the woke is not going away, but it's definitely going, there's, there are going to be fewer and fewer people who are going to be affected by it
Starting point is 00:43:12 in a professional setting, a social setting, things like that. It's just, you have Trump talking about, or was it Trump talking about declaring that, whatever gender you're assigned at birth, that's your gender forever and you can never change it. I mean, that's completely insane. It's completely insane that he would do that with like the force of law. But at this point, in the opposite direction, it's become the force of law.
Starting point is 00:43:46 So why fucking not? I mean, if you have the force of law coming at you for misgendering somebody, maybe it's going to take the force of law. to turn that around so people don't get in trouble for it anymore. So, yeah, I mean, I just don't know. It just seems like there's this real vibe shift going on, and people are really, I don't think most people were ever really down with the woke stuff. And I think they just shut up because they understood,
Starting point is 00:44:20 even if they couldn't articulate it, they understood that they were under a regime that would get them in trouble. And I think that I also think that if 2020 rolled around again and had the COVID thing, I don't blame, there are people, Operation Warspeed and stuff like that, yeah, that's on Trump. But I also know that if Ron Paul was president,
Starting point is 00:44:47 he would have been talking to health and human services about something possible to go to as far as how to treat this and how to stop it too. So it's hard for me to blame. Trump for that completely. I think he went just a little too hard on it. But, I mean, Trump wasn't responsible for the lockdowns. That was local.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I mean, I lived in Georgia at the time, and Georgia governor, Brian Kemp, didn't have lockdowns, but there were counties that had lockdowns. I don't know that people would go for. I don't even know if people would go for that anymore. Maybe, and I can hear the black pillars going. But if Trump supported the lockdowns this time, then all of MAGA would fall in line with it. I don't know. Whenever he brings up Operation War of Speed, Maga starts booing.
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Starting point is 00:46:49 The, uh, you think Pride Month, that might back off, or is that here to stay? It was being destroyed. It was this past year, this year. Pride Month was already being made fun of. There were a bunch of companies didn't do their pride stuff, didn't do that. I mean, I think June 1st rolls around and it's just June 1st. You know, we used to have the joke that, you know, we had Pride Month in June. And then, you know, Sloth Month was July because, you know, you're going through the Seven Deadly Sins.
Starting point is 00:47:22 But it's already started dying. So I don't really look at, I think. think this year it will be people will be trying to promote it and they'll be getting slammed. I think people, you know, it's, it's already gotten to the point where
Starting point is 00:47:39 leftist start to promote shit on Twitter. And it's just, it's a pile on of, you know, all the woke stuff and everything. It's just this pile on of people just like, not, we're not doing that anymore, screw you, making fun of them. You know, I say horrible things. I have a tendency
Starting point is 00:47:57 to say horrible things, you know, just for shock value mostly, but I mean them too. I think this year is going to be, I wouldn't be shocked if some of the European companies still do their whole thing on Twitter where, you know, American, BMW America, of course, BMW Saudi never gets any rain in both flags, but BMW America gets that and they'll just get pounced.
Starting point is 00:48:22 They're going to get pounced upon. That's already turning. That's already turning. I don't know that you see a big thing about Pride Month. I think Pride Month will become one of those things. It becomes more local. San Francisco, Minneapolis, New York, New York City. Those places will have pride months.
Starting point is 00:48:41 But for the most part, most of America is just going to be like, screw you, we're not doing this anymore. Same of the social justice stuff too. That's already seems to me it subsided. Yeah, I mean, it's we really don't see a lot, see a lot of that anymore. I mean, sure, you can see, I was at the American Renaissance conference this past weekend. Do you know American Renaissance? Perfect segue. Perfect segue. Actually, I wanted to ask you about that. So, yeah, I've had Jared on a few times. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:16 it had a, the first time I had a chance to have a conversation with him privately and just wonderful, man, brilliant. There were like 10 protesters. And, yeah. And, And they were all just exactly what you would think, people that you would throw out. You know, the kind of person walked into your business, you throw them out. You wouldn't want them in your business. I mean, just, just, just, just, just, just disgenic freaks kind of thing. There were more in years past. I mean, it's just, what's hanged on right now is like true believers.
Starting point is 00:49:54 All the people who, like, were wearing it. as just a fashion have fallen, you know, or falling away from that. And you're just going to have some true believers. But I don't think that's going to, I don't think social justice. And it really sucks us that that term. That was the term that Father Coughlin used for his magazine back in the 1930s, Father Coughlin. That was actually a right-wing term at one point, social justice, and it got stolen.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So there's another thing that they steal. How was overall, how was the festival for the conference? Oh, it was good. Yeah, it was great. You know, Greg Hood, great speech. Jared, great speech. I'm trying to remember who else was there. Diana West, right?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Who? Diana West? No. No. No. Who's the Jewish professor from Penn? It's not Diana West. I can't remember her name.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Amy Wax. Amy Wax. Yeah, yeah. Diana West is the author I just had on. That's why I'm looking at her book right now. That's why I'm, yeah, my name screwed up. Yeah, Amy Wax. Amy was great.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I got to talk to her the night before she spoke and everything. And she was very, very gracious. You know, her speech was all about academia and basically. race race realism and for someone like her to be able to stand up there and take the take the barbs that she has and you know she talks about how like if she'll have like maybe 13 students in a class on on that subject and three of them will be one and they want to be there so you know it's interesting that you have young people who want to be in a class hearing about racism and how the differences, the scientific differences between the races and things like that.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Martin Selner, who is an Austrian, who has written a book about remigration, and I mean, he can't even go to Germany. He gets his house raided all the time. And all he does is talk about remigration. All he does is talk about immigration. And that's how bad it is over there. And his speech was great. He talked about, you know, steps that you can take,
Starting point is 00:52:30 how to educate people on it and just to be hopeful. And, you know, I mean, there's a guy who can't come into the United States, even though he's married to an American. He's barred from coming into the United States. He had to tell a, you know, he was in on Zoom. So, I mean, it's just, it's still nuts that you have, he needs to clean that part of it up. people, you know, Tulsi Gabbard is still on like, not on the no-fly list, but they watch
Starting point is 00:53:00 her, you know, she has like surveillance when she flies. And now she's going to be over the over the whole, you know, complex that did that to her, everything. So yeah, American Renaissance was great. Anthony Coomia was there talking about how to be a racist and a, you know, entertainment, everything. That was a really funny. It was just basically him recounting stories about his career and how things happened. I got to talk to him a little bit too privately. And yeah. So it was great.
Starting point is 00:53:31 It was, there was, I was scared that there would be less people there this year than there was last year. And there were more people there. And that was, that was a really good sign. So, yeah, I always have fun to go into those because the people are just the most educated, the most calm, the most. you know, put together, you know, that you can meet. So, yeah, I enjoy going to things like that. Did, uh, V-Dair, anybody from V-Dair there?
Starting point is 00:54:04 I think Z-Man was heading going there. Z-Man was there. Yeah, we talked, we got to talk a lot on the first night. So he is a real person, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, he's real. Yeah, I met him. I was hanging out with him last year, so I knew it was real. I knew it was real.
Starting point is 00:54:19 But the brimelows were not there. I was hoping that Peter and Lydia would be there, but they weren't there. So a lot of talk about Vida, a lot of people in privately talking about what happened to them and everything. And, you know, hopefully we can make Let's issue James pay for that in the future. Yeah, you know, I've had Peter and Lydia on a few times. and, you know, the masses started associating lawfare with Trump, but, you know, they felt victim of it way, way before. And it was absolutely terrible what Letitia James has done to them.
Starting point is 00:55:00 American Renaissance has fallen victim to that. A lot of people, a lot of groups, a lot of good people have fallen victims of that. So hopefully we see, you know, we see a change coming. You know, we know that it's a lot of people. It's not only people on the quote unquote right in this country, but people on the left want to stop immigration. You know, want immigration to be controlled. So there's no reason like Peter and Lydia Bremelo and, you know, Martin Selner and Jared Taylor should be demonized at all. You know, they just have a, you know, they talk about it more.
Starting point is 00:55:42 They talk about it openly. And they talk about it, they're not whispering about it. You know, they talk about the realities of it. And, you know, they get into the science of it, too. So that's where people, if people want to trust the science, you know, until it comes to, like, you know, HBD, then you're not allowed. Then they don't want to talk about science. Then that's not real science. But, you know, taking a vaccine, you know, taking a vaccine that, you know, most of the people who took it have gotten COVID like three or four times since they took it, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:17 You know, that's, that's real science. I was going to say, Jared, he's, he's still not back on X? They still won't give him his account back. Opinions vary as to why. I don't really want to get into that. It's just, um, I think it just slipped to the cracks, right? I feel like if Elon knew, he would just turn it back on, my guess. Yeah, I mean, I think there are some people who have fallen through the cracks.
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Starting point is 00:58:08 you know, let's see what direction this goes in. Let's see how quickly things are acted upon. I remember in 2017 on an inauguration day, there were a bunch of, of executive orders that he signed off on. So not only am I looking for a possibly some changes in policy and some really drastic changes. And I'm also looking for a vibe shift, a real vibe shift into this country really getting behind a lot of what Trump, a lot of Trump's messaging. You know, I don't 100% agree with all the Trump's messaging, you know, that mean, definitely his opinions on America's greatest ally and everything like that is, I have problems with that.
Starting point is 00:59:02 But on the home front, things could be done. And hopefully they're, well, I mean, I think a lot of the policy has a lot of the policy that our occupiers have instituted has come back to bite them in the ass. So I think that our occupiers are looking to do carry out some, do some things that will benefit, not to benefit us, to benefit them, but will indirectly benefit us.
Starting point is 00:59:46 The country definitely, it definitely feels like, you know, Dana White was talking about this on Saturday after the fight, you know, there has definitely been a weight lifted. since the election knowing that, I mean, the Democrat, how did they not know it was going to turn out that way for her? But, I mean, would they have been better to go with Hillary? Yeah. I mean, it was Kamala Harris. Now, with Hillary of one, I don't know. You know, it's hard to be able to look and go, okay, did what happen happen so convincingly? Because, you know, it's, it's hard to be able to look and go, okay, did what happen so convincingly because it was Kamala Harris, I think definitely. Could he have beaten Hillary?
Starting point is 01:00:30 If Hillary stepped in at the time Kamala did, I don't know. It's hard to tell. I really think people just wanted something different. I think people were sick and tired of being scolded, sick and tired of, you know, my friend Jason Maranchuk talked about this just a just this spirit since World War II of the devouring mother, where you say something, you're allowed to say certain things, and if you say something that's out of line, it's just, you get attacked like your mom, you know, if you say a dirty word around your mom. And, you know, he says, you know, it seems like we're entering into the age, and we have been entering into the age for a little while, it doesn't happen all at once, of the vengeful son, where the son is like, well, I'm not
Starting point is 01:01:20 going to put up with this crap anymore. and I'm going to fight back against it. And I think that a big part of that was people just openly advocating for Trump and being like, please come in here and just stop this, these what seem like heritans that have just been controlling us for, you know, for 80 years. Now, will it overturn the apple cart and we'll have a complete vibe shift and everything? Who the fuck knows? It's hard to tell at this point because too many variables.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Too many, you know, they've tried to, no matter what, let's just accept the official narrative. They've tried to kill him twice, maybe even three times. I've heard that more attempts were found out about and everything. You know, let's hope that he's just basically has a bubble around of a protection that until he can get in there. And I'm not saying that he's, I'm not saying this because he's the savior and he's going to save us for anything like that. But he definitely represents the kind of, I hate to use the word change because that's so, it was, it's a word that was
Starting point is 01:02:41 just absolutely destroyed during the Obama years, but a shift that people, I think, want to see. Yeah, I can't, I couldn't believe he went to a USC fight. I couldn't, I can't believe he's golfing right now. They're letting him do that. You know, he didn't say what, say what you want. I don't, I haven't really looked in to see what his, uh, what the people, his secret service looks like around him. If it's the same kind of lunatics, I would assume he would have more or he'd be able to choose whoever he wanted now being president-elect, but apparently he feels like he can do this.
Starting point is 01:03:27 that he can interact with people. And, you know, because, like, John Jones could snap him like a toothpick if he wanted to, you know. It's like, they'll just the fact they let him go up there. And, you know, you don't really see anybody, you know, ready at the right. I mean, you could probably snap someone's neck before, you know, law enforcement can pull a gun. And, you know, it's just really odd to see. it really lends itself to thinking that there is a shift going on, that there is, you know, what the spirit of the age,
Starting point is 01:04:08 that the spirit of the age is transforming into something else. And, you know, I've said that I think the spirit of the age is transforming into some kind of authoritarianism, just whether it was going to be left or right wing, whether it's going to be left or right wing as the question. And we still, and we don't know the answer to that or you don't know the answer to that. No. I'd prefer right-wing authoritarianism, but I'm prepared for left-wing authoritarianism too. So I'm just ready for whatever happens.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Do you ever think we'll know? Because it's just like the pendulum just goes back and forth, back and forth. The only way we're going to know is if it's, I mean, insanely obvious. But if it gets to the point where that's what people want, where people are like, yeah, you know, there's no reason that I shouldn't be able to go to Chicago. There's no reason that I shouldn't be able to go to New York City or go to a city without being, you know, beaten, robbed, raped, killed. Any kind of measures that are taken to make that city safe. New York City famously went through this.
Starting point is 01:05:24 You know, when I was a kid growing up in New York City, New York City would have 2,000 to 2,400 murders a year. That's a lot. That is a lot. And when I left New York City, it had dropped to like 1,600. But, you know, not 10 years after that, it basically all but disappeared. And it was basically a couple of facts. The city had become at that point kind of hard to live in financially, so a lot of people left, a lot of lower, more lower income people left. But Giuliani actually cleaned that city up.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I mean, he just no zero had stop and frisk who, when I was a libertarian, I was completely against, you know, stop and risk policy. And, you know, just broken windows policing, just arresting people for anything. If you broke the law, if you broke the letter of the law, you got arrested. I remember going back to the city in like 1995, 1996, and I hadn't been back in years. And I was just walking around and I'm like, this is completely different. Now, there were police on every corner. maybe not every corner but every other corner and maybe that's just what needs to be done
Starting point is 01:07:01 if you're going to have a multicultural society and you're going to have a city where 7 million people are crushed in on each other and then you have all these people who come into the city on a daily basis from outside the city and also it's a you know just use in new york as an example it's also a tourist haven so you may have 9 10 million people crammed into this little space
Starting point is 01:07:24 at one time. Maybe you need authoritarianism. I think you do. I don't think you can have a multicultural, you can have a multicultural society. I don't think multicultural societies work, but if you have a multicultural society, you're going to have to have the iron hand of the law.
Starting point is 01:07:43 You know, Singapore is multicultural. It's multicultural, multi-Asian, but a lot of Asians don't like each other. A lot of Asian groups don't like each other. And, you know, you get caned or go to jail for spitting gum on the ground there. And you catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design.
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Starting point is 01:09:30 Seems like New York City was perfectly fine with it at one point. Of course, 2020 reversed everything, New York City, and now it's a hellhole again that I used to go up to New York City two, three times a year. I haven't back since 2000. It just, in 2020, I went up there for a couple of days to see a debate. I haven't been back since, just because it's a hellhole again. Why would I want to? see some of those cities
Starting point is 01:09:59 change that'll ripple down to places like New York, Chicago, or L.A.? I mean, I think it has to. I'm, if it doesn't, you're
Starting point is 01:10:16 basically running the risk of it turning into some kind of dystopian dystopian nightmare. Something out of a movie. You know, history, I believe history runs in cycles. I don't, it repeats itself, but I think,
Starting point is 01:10:31 it runs in cycles. And we've had basically almost 100 years of lawlessness of insanity, of doing everything that the social engineers could do to destroy the family, destroy people's faith, to get people to stop going to church, to get people to worship minority groups, to put minority groups above their own. above their own interests. And I just don't see that lasting forever. That just seems like something that has to come back around at some point. And I think when you put it this way,
Starting point is 01:11:19 if you start seeing cities get cleaned up, that would be a great signal to know that we're entering a new age, kind of a new age and um and it's just a matter trying to figure out what the spirit of that age is because that's how you get through without being black pill. You have to know what the spirit of that age is and what if you can figure out what the spirit of that age is and you can um you can navigate it and you know survive and even thrive you don't want to just survive you want to thrive too so so as we sit here what's on tap for you for the rest of the year and uh, you know, as we go into the inauguration, the first 90, 120 days of 25.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Well, I mean, I think that the old glory club that I'm a charter member of... Thank you for let me be a part of that. Not to interrupt you, but thank you for let me be part of that a few weeks ago. Oh, yeah, no problem at all. I think what we're going to do is we're going to seek to see what Trump's vision is and hold to account the people that he's appointed to, you know, implement that vision. You know, that would be, obviously, after he gets elected. Up until then, I'm planning on probably concentrate on a lot of history podcasting.
Starting point is 01:12:50 And, you know, I'm just going to sit back and relax. Try to do something that's not so political because when 20, When January 20th rolls around, it's going to be hard not to get political and talk about current events and really be diving in to see exactly what executive order is this. What are they trying to push through here? Is there going to be a problem with this appointment? What's it going to happen here? What are these guys doing and everything? So after that, I think we're just going to concentrate on, after inauguration, concentrate on.
Starting point is 01:13:26 after inauguration, concentrate on keeping people as accountable as possible. And before that, you know, just going to enjoy the holidays. You know, I've got Thanksgiving coming up very soon. I get to spend that with my wife's family. And Christmas, of course, I'm just going to enjoy myself until inauguration day and hope nothing really, really horrible happens. Like, Anuk gets dropped somewhere. someone makes an attempt on Trump again or
Starting point is 01:14:00 hopefully life doesn't hopefully you know life doesn't get in the way and we're just able to have a nice calm before the storm because I think that in January not to invoke any Q language but I think a storm is it's going to be like a storm on January 20th and you that's when you're going to see all hell break loose If all hell doesn't break loose and no one's pushing back on what he wants to do, I wouldn't even know what that.
Starting point is 01:14:34 That sounds like fantasy grants me. I think there's going to be a lot. There's going to be a lot of fireworks after January 20th, when he takes that pen and starts putting it to paper, and they start making moves. So up until then, just going to sit back, relax, read. I've been reading a hell of a lot more lately. been finding times to sit down and read at least a chat, been reading a chapter out of a couple
Starting point is 01:15:01 books every day and, uh, concentrate on my substacks. And yeah, that's it. I think the, I'm taking this as a vacation up until January 20th. And then when, well, I'm still going to be putting out episodes all the time and doing some readings, but once January 20th rolls around, I think that if you have a podcast, you're going to have a lot to talk about. So either way, if you hate them, if you love them, if you're skeptical, if anything, there's going to be a hell of a lot to talk about. And I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I mean, it can't, honestly, 20th can't get here fast enough because all the crap that can happen between now and then is, you know, weighs on your mind a little bit. Do you, when you say hell breaks, so do you mean more on the, from a government level, level, or just unrest?
Starting point is 01:15:56 No, I think that you're going to see political. I mean, it's going to be political. You know, you'll start to see how politics is war by other means. That you will, the hyperbole, the everything's going to ramp up. It's just going to be, if Trump does this, it's going to, you know, we'll be dead in five years. does this, you know, trans kids will be, trans kids will be rounded up into camps and everything like that. It's just, it's going to be wild and entertaining. And thankfully, it just provides for a lot of, a lot of good content for those of us that that's what we do.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I mean, what's going to happen after four years with Trump? I mean, the phenomenon of him will be gone. And no one's going to replace that. Well, that's the thing is, is that if you properly, properly understood if he doesn't, if radical change is not made, if the administrative state is not basically I don't think it will be completely dead,
Starting point is 01:17:06 but if it's not weakened to the point where like you see the woke weakened right now and things like that, then yeah, sure we have a, there is a chance that in four years things could start regressing back to
Starting point is 01:17:22 you know, where we have been over the last four years or the last 80 years. And that's taking into account that a lot's going to change. I mean, I meant just the phenomenon of him because this will be his last run. Just the idea of the derangement syndrome on, you know, people hating him or loving him. You know, there's no politician I don't think I'll ever see again in my lifetime that's had that kind of impact. and this is the start of the last run? Well, I think that this is also the, could be the nail in the coffin of the politician.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Not that there won't be politicians, but there will be, but it will be, I think you're going to see more of a concentration on private industry. You know, Musk is basically taken over space, taken over space travel. I think you're going to see a lot more of private industry being looked to as the government used to be looked to.
Starting point is 01:18:31 I think you're going to see politicians become figureheads even more than they do now. But, yep, one thing that has to be taken into consideration and is bringing this all the way back to now is we're still under occupation. and in four years, I'll say it right now. We're still going to be under occupation by the same power. Their power may be weakened, but the question is, is what does that look like with, if Trump is the death of the politician, the... You catch them in the corner of your eye, distinctive by design. They move you even before you drive.
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Starting point is 01:20:37 and they should be, I want us to go back to the statesman, where you would have a statesman who's more, you know, classic like, you know, George H.W. Bush was still a statesman. He was still respectable. Nixon was respectable. back to politicians who understand their role, who understand what they're supposed to represent. And I think there's a chance we can go back to that.
Starting point is 01:21:10 But then you always have the cloud hanging over your head of, are you still occupied? And if we're still occupied by our foreign power and we are not America, then still going to be a whole hell of a lot of work to do. And that's why, another thing for the old glory club one of the the goal of the old glory club is to raise up our future elites the kind of people who would step into positions like this and who you know when you hear the term america first are really america first they all they care about
Starting point is 01:21:46 is america they don't care about our greatest ally or our our allies are those alliances are not entangling as we were supposed to have from the beginning. So still work to do. Nothing's going to be perfect. Nothing is ever perfect. There is no perfect. It will always be, you will always have things that need to be worked on until you have a government that genuinely is there to serve the people is there to protect the people and to protect their identity, their culture, their language, their relationships with each other, that nothing can break that, that nothing would disrupt that, nothing would subvert that. So, yeah, still a lot of work to, still tons of work to do. Anyone who thinks that Trump is going to solve all our problems, I don't even really know that
Starting point is 01:22:49 that person exists. I think that there's a, those are strong, does, that's, those, those are strong, that's like a real straw man. Maybe there are some boomers out there who are still holding on to the one person can change us all and everything. I don't think that's Trump. I think Trump is the kind of person who points towards that. But I don't think it's Trump. And I'm not disrespecting the man. You know, I think he's genuinely a good man.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I honestly do. I think he's a good man. But I don't think he's the, I don't. He's a former Democrat from Queens. He's a New York City Democrat. He's liberalism is the ideology of death. And that's what basically we still are. We still are.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Even the majority, the overwhelming majority of right-wingerers in this country are just liberals. You know, they believe in the Civil Rights Act. They believe, oh, we just need to. You know, it's like somebody I had in DMs the other day who was defending conservatism. And I said, well, why? Conservatism is a leftist ideology. Why would I want to defend conservatism? He's like, how is it a leftist ideology?
Starting point is 01:24:13 I said, define conservatism. And he said, well, seeking to return and protect the values of the founding fathers of America. I mean, oh, I said, oh, so you mean white male European rule? white male landowners are the only ones that can vote. And yeah, let's start with that. Name me a conservative that's defending that. Name me a conservative who isn't a Civil Rights Act American. They've taken, you know, I've had Greg Hood on the show a couple of years ago,
Starting point is 01:24:53 and we talked about how the Civil Rights Act basically replaced the Constitution. The Constitution was for a certain kind of person. And those are the people that, for the last 80 years, were most under attack in this country. White, male Europeans, Protestants, mostly. Overwhelming majority Protestant. So that's what America,
Starting point is 01:25:23 if you're looking to go back to America, you're looking to go back to white Anglo-Saxon Protestant America. If you're looking for anything else, you're looking at the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which says that you don't have the right to discriminate. Or you're looking at Shelley v. Kramer, I think it's from 1947 or 1948, that basically said you cannot have, you can't have, you can't restrict people from your neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Or you're looking at Brown versus Board of Education. which 19 gives you integration in the schools in 1954 and then just 12 years later you have New York City teachers being set on fire and teachers being raped in their classrooms. I already mentioned multiculturalism, right? How has that worked out? Didn't have these problems. And you can look at like when Bernie Sanders talks about, you should need to be more like Sweden. And he's talking about Sweden before they flooded it with maniac lunatics from the Middle East and Africa.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Well, what was he talking about? He was talking about a white northern European country, high trust society where they didn't look at each, where if somebody needed welfare or something like that. They didn't look at each other like, you know, you're stealing something. from me. Why? Because probably most of them are seventh, you know, seven cousins related.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Yeah. Is that ever going to be America again? Who the hell knows? But if you want America, if you want the American founding ideals, I just gave them to you. Anything else is from
Starting point is 01:27:34 the 1960s. And if you prefer the 1960s, over the 1760s. Okay. I take the 1760s, the options being presented to me right now. Me too. Me too. My oldest relative on my mother's side has only been here since like the 18, early 1800s.
Starting point is 01:28:00 But, you know, fought the war on the wrong side, but fought the war. So, you know, I have a little bit of skin in this game. I'm not from founding stock, but very soon. thereafter. Where can people find you, Pete? The Pete Cagnano show on all podcatchers, Pete Substack.com, and the Old Glory Club. We stream live on YouTube every Thursday night at 8 p.m.
Starting point is 01:28:33 sharp. 8 p.m. sharp. We're never late. 8 p.m. sharp. I hope you hear the sarcasm in that. But come check us out. I think we do a really good job of covering the news. having some laughs as well.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah, I could vouch. I was part of it a few weeks ago and I encourage everybody to not only check out Pete's show, read a substack, but also check into O'Gloy Club every 8 o'clock central time, 9 o'clock Eastern, right? 9 o'clock Eastern? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:01 8 o'clock Eastern for the live stream, yeah. That's right, because I was on the East Coast when I recorded with you guys. Because I was all screwed up with a time change because I'm in Arizona now. Now, ironically, I'm on mountain time. Yeah, yeah, Arizona's, but only one of two states that doesn't turn the clock back or it doesn't adjust for daily savings time. Yeah, what's the other state?
Starting point is 01:29:26 Hawaii? I don't even know. I think there's parts of Indiana or I thought there was, I think there's parts of Texas that is mountain. I think there's parts of Indiana that's central. Memory serves me. I could be wrong about that, but. Yeah, Alabama's all central. So this is the first, it's the second time in my life I've lived in Central, but the first time I was only for a few months.
Starting point is 01:29:50 So always lived on the, always lived in the East Coast, except for times I lived overseas. Yeah, I was in L.A. one weekend a long time ago in November. And it happened to be the weekend, the clocks were changing. So I had the extra hour to sleep in in the morning and then flew right back and gave the hour back later on that day. It's always funny how that happens. Pete, as always, man, great conversation. Look forward to more ahead. Happy Thanksgiving and look forward to continue to follow your work.
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