The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete's Appearance on Discordant Dragons
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Good evening, everyone.
Welcome back to Discordant Dragons.
This is the 155th episode.
Tonight, you probably know some of the things we're going to talk about,
but hopefully I'll surprise you with some other things.
We have some wonderful guests here,
all from the Old Glory Club tonight.
It will be a fantastic stream.
I promise you that.
So, without further review,
Let's go ahead and bring on the featured guests for this evening, Mr. Pete Quinones.
Welcome back to the channel, sir.
Hey, yes, how are you doing?
Oh, I'm, I'm all right.
I'm a little under the weather.
I had a very minor cold over the weekend, but it was nothing to sneeze at.
Puns.
But whenever the winter months start getting here and it gets cold and people burn all the dust off their heaters,
it really messes with me, man.
So that plus all of the pollen from the herd.
Cains. I've had a, had a rough breathing the last few weeks. But other than that, doing pretty good. Thank you for asking my friend. Speaking of friends, we also have Hunger Merchant back again. Welcome to the stream, sir. Always a pleasure to be here, yes. Speaking of good friends,
Muse Fist back again. Good evening, sir. Hey, yes. Hi, everyone. Last and certainly least in stature is my little co-host three of 12 rounding out the crew for tonight. Good evening, sir. Good evening.
Oh, God, those allergies are killing me too.
Oh, man, it's a, ugh.
I have been having trouble breathing and sleeping lately.
I am not my best right now.
But that's fine.
We have a show to do.
We have many lovelies in the chat already.
We even have Jason Kuna, the No White Guilt guy here, author of the Go Free Book that I like so much.
He is here in the chat.
Hello, Jason.
All right.
I also see we got Scrubs from Dangerfield's channel.
Good to see you guys here as well.
And we got some of the usual over on Rumble already.
We are doing good.
Now, let's go ahead and bring the branding up.
Let's get the name plates out, which interface is different now, so it's a little harder to get all these open.
Give me just a moment.
Come on now.
Where is?
Man, they used to make this so easy to do.
Everything just gets so over-engineered.
I hate it.
Come on.
Why are you not working?
Let's try this.
How about this?
There we go.
Okay, all right. It's back to working again. We're going to do.
Now, I want a more blue or purple than that. What do we got? That'll work. That's good. Okay.
Thanks, Stream Yards. I appreciate it. All your crap new features that I didn't ask for and don't want.
Did you guys know that that Stream Yards basically doubled its monthly fee?
It went from 25 USD to 45 USD in a single jump.
Woof. Yeah. I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. And I'm subscribed to them.
but it doesn't, I don't think it expires until June,
but yeah, I'm going to jump out and just stay with Restream.
I mean, the amount that they want for Stream Yard is, like, insane.
Especially because they don't really offer anything that I need or want.
It's just they have all these bloated features that I have no use for at all.
And I feel like that's how they're justifying the price increase.
Anyway, let's not bitch about that.
Let's talk about the dragons tonight.
I could if you want to.
Oh, I totally could too, but I don't think the users want to hear the stream yard users complain.
So the dragons for...
That's what we're here for.
The dragons for tonight are going to be fun, guys.
Starting with the green dragon, we've got F's for Fred and Peanut.
The black dragon has mail-in voter intimidation.
The white dragon has Y-Mar Problems. Dot, dot, dot.
The blue dragon has health or wealth, and the red dragon has basket of garbage.
So Pete Quinones, you know,
You are the elder and the best podcaster here.
So you have the leadership privileges tonight,
which means you get to choose the topic or pick a party member to choose a topic.
And the person who chooses the topic is the first one who has to answer the dragon's question after I read from the article.
So Pete, what will it be first, my friend?
Let's do why more problems.
All right. That'll be the white dragon.
All right.
Now we go to the New York Post.
Open Air Sex Market
Is exploding in Brooklyn
As Hookers openly sell themselves along Pennsylvania track
The Market of Sweethearts has nothing to do
Has nothing on Brooklyn's seedy Pennsylvania track
East New York's notorious open-air sex market
Has seen an explosion of scantly-planned prostitutes
In the area near Pennsylvania Avenue
Prompting a local
A local Paul
I'm not a New Yorker
I'm not a city.
A local politician to plead for cops to crack down as parents are forced to shield their children's eyes and residents wake up to use condoms scattered across their condo parking lot.
We need the same attention to police department is paying in Roosevelt Avenue to bring it out to East New York to help address the issue, said city councilman.
There's some pictures of some who is.
All right.
The post encounter nearly a dozen skimply dressed hookers Wednesday night standing beside the,
Park City Sanitation and Semi-Trailer trucks along Georgia and Malta Avenues,
bringing sleazy drivers to a stop and even jamming up traffic as they chatted up potential
Johns.
You like to hang out, said one prostitute?
All right, I'm not going to read the rest of this crap.
It's just Sloss a Life prostitute crap in a big city.
I have no desire to do it to reganade that shit for that trick.
So let's go ahead and move to the White Dragon, which is this fierce warrior here.
The white with us tonight is a powerful champion of his rather successful clan.
Now that he's older and wiser, he helps train the younger worms of his clan in ways of draconic power and warfare.
Part of that is understanding other worlds and their warfare, which is what led him to learn about Earth.
His question tonight is as follows, and this comes to you first, Mr. Cononis.
What laws, policies, and social practices do you think are possible and necessary to heal our culture from this sickness?
Well, this is what's really weird about this is as you showed those pictures.
This is basically what Giuliani, Mayor Giuliani, cleaned up.
When I was growing up in New York, we had a section like that in the Bronx.
It was called Hunts Point.
And a lot of it ran under the Major Deegan Expressway right next to trucks like the tractor trailers like that.
And the tractor trailers would actually be left open.
in at night and they would actually pay whoever had the tractor trailer, whatever business
to do their business in the tractor trailer. So this is just a,
Giuliani cleans up New York, 2020 rolls around, defund the police, everything goes to hell,
and it looks like we're reverting back to the 70s and 80s. So there's a couple ways that
Giuliani cleaned up New York, and one of them was something controversial called Stop and Frisk.
Oh, I remember that, yeah.
The leftoids were big mad about that back in the day.
Oh, yeah, libertarians, too.
Oh, yeah, because they're leftoids.
Yeah, pretty much.
But what he did basically was if police saw somebody that they were supposed to,
you know, who they thought looked suspicious, they would pat him down.
they pat down a lot of people,
a lot of innocent people.
I think they patted down a lot of innocent people
so they didn't look like they were
racially profiling is what they did.
And they
basically just had like a no
tolerance policy.
They just threw people in jail,
through people in jail,
through people in jail.
That's exactly what it takes.
You need a no tolerance policy.
You see someone who's breaking a law,
even if it's something that you would consider
be a misdemeanor.
or maybe even a ticket or something.
We'll get them off the street for a couple hours.
People start talking and they immediately,
it's like I said,
you're not going to get rid of degeneracy from your culture.
You have to drive it back into the shadows and not let it out.
So, you know,
I look at what Giuliani did,
with stop and frisk.
Also, I mean,
there was a lot more to do with it.
The price of everything in New York just skyrocketed all at once
because they stopped building.
And there was no more apartments to build, yada, yada.
So it made it really expensive to live there.
But just basically no nonsense policing arrest, even if it's just for a couple hours,
if someone spits on the sidewalk, take them in and make them sit, you know, sit in the cooling cell for two hours and then release them.
They're going to go and tell everybody what happened, that, you know, what happened to them.
And this shit is going to stop.
All right.
Anything else?
Well, I mean, we could send them, you know, put them in crystals.
and, you know, for four or five years or something like that.
But, you know, I think that we've seen, I remember going to, going back to New York.
Yeah, I left New York and my family left New York in 1986.
The first time I got to go back was in 1995 and the city was already cleaned up.
It was like, you know, you went, it went from, you don't, you're not in this area of Manhattan,
even Midtown Manhattan at midnight to places booming at midnight.
and cops are everywhere.
And, you know, that's another thing that they did.
They put, when you went to New York,
especially during, like, the holidays,
every other street, there were two cops on the corner.
So, you know, just police presence kind of thing.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's move to someone else.
Who else wants to take this question?
I really couldn't say it any better because I was thinking.
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In the same thing, when I saw the question,
and the latter part, the two cops on every corner,
literally gets referred to as cops on every street corner now.
In fact, Boris Johnson was made famous because he adopted the policy
of Stop and Priskin and applied it to London,
massively reduced knife crime.
This was in the early 2000s,
2002 or so, in the post-Belair day,
or towards the end of his relevance.
So he ended up being a big stick in the butt of labor over there for that
because London was actually a functional city,
a functional and clean city for once,
just like it became the New York of Europe.
Oh, the memories.
I'm sure you have memories of that.
Good times, right?
I mean, I even told me.
I've even seen him on top here.
He was happy. He was charismatic, stuff like that.
But yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is you need no tolerance policies.
You commit a crime, you get thrown in jail.
It doesn't necessarily have to be the longest time in jail.
But for a lot of people who are normally law-abiding citizens and they don't want no trouble,
being thrown in jail for a day is enough to like swear off crime forever.
Because it's so embarrassing.
I know I would.
As someone who's been to jail clinic, I can tell you, it just sucks.
It's boring.
You're around to idiots.
Like, it's terrible.
Yeah, I mean, I've never been in jail.
I've never even been pulled over.
In fact, I pulled over a cop for cutting me off once.
I honked at him, and he stopped, and he was like, what's up?
Oh, sorry.
So the closest I have to that is detention, and I got angry.
I got real angry because it.
they were doing this policy where anybody who's leaving the lunchroom after a food fight was going to get detention.
I was like, the hell?
What do I have to do with this?
Well, back to the topic, is there anything you would like to add to what Pete talked about in regards to laws, practices, social policies, social practices, etc.?
Yeah, the other half to this is cultural change, obviously.
Parents need to take more interest in their children.
They need to stop leaving them on the tablets, and they need to tell them what's right and wrong.
In fact, I think Sargon is a really good role model for this.
From a young age, he's been very talkative to his young boy.
And his young boy respects him because instead of he's not arbitrary with him,
he's not irrational with him, when his boy asks questions, he says,
he says what it is and why.
And, you know, he's very stern about like, okay, there's none of that now for this.
You know, if you start crying on the bus, not now.
maybe later, not now though.
You know, when you have the respect of your child, they'll do what you say.
It's actually, and that ties to rule four of 12 rules for life.
Don't do anything that make your children hate you, because then they'll grow up to be more like you.
And if you are an upstanding person and you are respectable, they will be like you.
And I think that's the answer to the other half equation.
People need to become better. They really do.
All right.
Decent answer. Thank you very much.
Hunger Merchant, NewsFist.
If only I had as much faith in humanity as three of 12.
Right.
As a degenerate med, all I have to say is we used to be a proper country
where if you wanted to partake in degeneracy, you had to fly out to Vegas, you know,
and there were certain brothels that you can do this kind of thing.
Exactly.
That's what we were a proper country.
Yeah.
And yeah, we used to enforce our laws and our cities.
Yeah.
I mean, if I was emperor, I would designate a certain place of Red Light District
and then savagely police anyone outside of that area breaking rules.
I'm with Emperor Constantine on this.
He was the one who basically didn't outlaw a prostitution
because he said it's just ridiculous.
You're never going to do it.
And all you're going to do is just waste all these, like, resources and stuff like that.
I would probably hand out...
You can police prostitution, but you can't ban...
Yeah, exactly, right?
I would probably...
Yeah, it's like you can't stop people from wanting to have sex and get high.
Like, that's just, that's always going to be a thing.
I would hand out licenses to some sort of, you know, not exactly organized crime,
or if they were respectable, you know what I mean, right?
So that you'd know where they are, you'd know who.
Your contact, if stuff started going wrong in the red light district, you'd know exactly who to call.
You wouldn't have to, you know, and you could call them up and you'd be like, look, you have to take care of this.
So the city's going to come down on you really, really hard.
You have an incentive to, you know, make this thing work.
And, yeah, young and hard.
It says, yeah, Amsterdam, basically.
Yeah, because all you really do.
And the, however, the problem with saying you can't wipe this out, no, no, no, is that people immediately leap to the same argument with drugs.
and drugs and prostitution go together.
Legalizing drugs is very, very bad,
and I just don't see how you can get around it.
I know people are going to do it anyway.
If you get too liberal on that,
I mean, perhaps you could do a thing where,
you know,
there's a certain area for all the drugos.
But I think drug use is inherently more harder to police.
and in some ways more harmful than prostitution.
Of course, yeah.
It's quite a new phenomena as well.
I mean, okay, you can probably go back to the Chinese and the opium dens and all that kind of stuff.
But civilizationally speaking, it is a newer problem, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
So my general attitude towards vice is that you have to give it a place.
You have to say this is the place for it.
Anyone doing it outside of that place is going to get shadowed from a great height.
and then everybody, and then everybody knows where the red light district is, right?
And families don't have to, like, take their kids through it, right?
Like, everybody knows that's the place where the bad stuff goes on.
And if there's any of it outside of there, then you can call the cops.
But we don't even have an effective police force in London.
So this is many, many, many steps ahead.
You'd need an actual, like, police force and, you know, the will to enforce the laws that we all already have and all that.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I think that go ahead
Yeah may I ask a question for the rest of you guys
What do you do about the sort of parents that are such degenerates
That they do bring their kids to shit like that
Like the pride parades
Execution
Yeah
I agree
But uh no just just to have a lot of crystals
A lot of crystals
These dragons love their crystals
But I just want to put
I just want to push back on just one thing news this said
Like about the Amsterdam model
I mean first of all the Amsterdam
model it's none of the locals you know participate in any of those activities those are just for the
tourists as anybody from amsterdam will tell you but it's also like there's i mean even though
drug use and prostitution is legalized i mean nashem is still the drug and human trafficking sex
trafficking capital of the world even though those things are legalized like that that's i don't
think that's the right model but that's just my opinion yeah amsterdam is we i mean i lived in
Amsterdam for a while. It's a weird, it's a weird place. And I take your point. I mean, you could make
the sort of argument that Amsterdam has become sort of an international red light center.
They've, you know, red light district. They've been trying to clean it up. But you're right.
The problem is that there's a ton of international organized crime in Amsterdam. I don't know if any of you
seen that film layer cake. But one of the gangsters in there is this like complete idiot. He, you know,
he goes to Amsterdam to do coke and bang hookers and he's a complete idiot. And he's a complete idiot. And
you do run into those kinds of people there.
So, I mean, you might say that you'd need a much more strict border policy,
sort of in addition to this, if it was any major international city.
Yeah, I mean, man, I don't know.
I mean, these are the kinds of problems that, you know,
you could start with the basic principle.
And just all of the niggly facts on the ground would be enough to keep an entire
police department engaged.
Like, you're never going to find a perfect answer, unfortunately,
to the interface between a moral idea and how humans actually act, in my opinion.
Yeah, I can confirm that all that is like what you say,
because I have close contacts that are Dutch,
that are Dutch slash German slash live in the area.
And the answer is that they have the culture to hold it up.
It's like they are one of the few peoples on this earth
that can actually uphold, for the most part,
a more libertine slash right libertarian society
and actually not completely screw everything up.
The fact that they don't mostly don't partake in it at all.
They have a sort of more libertine look on things,
but they're also very strict with what they allow themselves to indulge in.
And virtually every other part of the Netherlands is rural, traditional.
They still court, they have all sorts of traditions that are lovely.
The Netherlands is a lovely country,
and just Amsterdam is sort of a black spot.
That in Rotterdam, where all the, apparently their migrants are,
the relevant, so it's very relevant to the question, obviously,
because it's, what do you need to make this work?
How can you have any of these things?
Where your whole three out of four pillars thing going on,
and at least one of those pillars appears to be culture,
and another seems to be policing.
I wonder what the other two pillars are, if there are.
I don't know.
It's almost like if you have a homogenous society and a strong culture that the locals just don't fall into those traps.
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Yeah.
Who would have thought?
Hmm. Big star.
The only thing that I have to add to this
conversation,
uh, hold on. This is for Lomax here.
There you go, Lomax.
That's what Narcan is. You can read about it.
The thing that I think matters most for cleaning up this trash and fixing YMAR problems is you have to be willing to go without to do what's right.
And enough people have to be willing to do that to clean up the mess.
And I don't mean that as like some kind of weird call to war and crazy ethnic cleansing stuff.
What I mean by that is eventually enough people are going to be upset enough and at risk enough.
and angry enough to start doing something about it on a local level productively.
People are mad about it and talk about it online now.
And some of us are organizing intelligently, like the Old Glory Club, for example.
Many people have made go-free clubs with the white will-being crew.
They're trying to clean up their local areas and have more moral, clean-living influence on the culture around them.
It's going to take good men getting into places of power and doing what's right.
We don't even need a new government and new laws.
We just need men that are worth a crap actually implementing the things that we have.
And I think you'll start seeing a decline in these kinds of problems.
If, this is a big if, if we start turning off the welfare spigot and stopping the mass migration rotating door.
Because those things decay an identity that people are willing to defend and think has value.
if your state or national or country identity is so devalued and so debased that no one cares about it
and it's just melting pot sieve-knat garbage in every direction people don't have any reason to care because there's nothing there for them
everyone just becomes this rootless individual that only cares about himself and i think that unless we can
remedy that then there's really not much else that we can do about these these societal problems
So we can sit here and talk about policy and stuff all we want. But what it's going to take, like Pete tells you, like I tell you, it's going to take an organized, motivated minority to take power and start doing what's necessary to clean house and doing what we can to cut off the sources of our worst problems.
That's what I think.
So any other input before we move to Superchats for this question?
All right. Let's move on then.
over on entropy we have two things from melon
and we have one big thing from paladin
which we'll get to in a second
melon says
shout for three US dollars
thank you melon
shout out to hunger for covering mine
and 20 other dudes lunch the other day at a meetup
he won't even brag about it but I will
keep it on the down low
okay this is for the group chat
another
three dollars from melon
I return home for the first time in two weeks
and yet more of my Christmas tree farm
has been parceled off and
staked for development.
Billions. I will find a way to stop this.
Sorry to hear that.
Somebody's taking your land?
I'm confused. That's sad.
I hope that you get compensated properly
and they don't just snatch it from you.
Government?
No, I think the farm
and his, probably not his personal farm,
but the one in the area.
Oh, okay.
I got you.
I see what you mean.
Paladin Y, Y, Z.
Interesting fellow that I met at the last OGC meet up,
sends in 50 U.S. dollars.
Thank you, man.
That's a great donation.
Deeply appreciate it.
He says,
I say that you need to let the problems run their courses.
We didn't get here because of a bad mayor.
People need to realize that as a collective,
they need to go back to the fork in the road
and take the other path.
Culture, leadership, media will follow.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was saying, man.
like there's going to come a point to where there's going to be a lot of dregs of society
I mean even white people god knows we've got enough of those that are broken beyond repair
and there's going to come a point to where there will be a bottleneck there will be economic
hardship and the people who don't care enough about themselves and don't have an identity
they're not going to make it and the people who don't make it through that bottleneck who don't
make it through that long winter well we didn't need them anyway they didn't prepare for the long
winter, so they starve, that kind of thing.
I do think that there is going to be
a necessary culling
eventually, just
because of quite literally,
not ironically, socioeconomic factors,
huck-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. I do think that
that is going to be a
culling factor, and I think it'll mostly get
rid of the people that we don't need anyway.
Any other input on that one from you guys?
No, it's...
No, nothing to just be there.
Yeah, it's going to be
you're going to see a survival of the fittest come into play for sure.
All right.
And check the other sites.
And it doesn't seem like we have anything else.
So we are clear to move on.
Well, yeah, because that was from last week.
Okay, that's not for now.
Okay.
All right.
Very good.
All right.
We'll drop that banner and we'll bring the dragons back up.
That was the white dragon.
Which means we have basket of garbage from the red, health or wealth from the blue.
Fs for Fred and Peanut from the green.
and mail-in voter intimidation from the black.
Pete Conones, you are party leader tonight, sir.
What will it be?
Health or wealth?
Health or wealth?
From the Blue Dragon.
All right.
Oh, come on, OBS.
All right, here we go.
This is from Zero Hedge.
Establishment media says Trump's mass deportations
will be an economic disaster.
It's the same tire to debunk arguments
over and over again from the open borders cheerleaders.
Legacy media dinosaurs still clinging to the last vestiges of their once vast prehistoric kingdom
have consistently defended mass immigration and common sense border security.
They claim that America and the West End General can't survive economically without illegal immigrants
and a steady flow of non-citizens from the third world.
Without them, who will mow Republican yards and clean Republican toilets, left us often argue?
But is this true or to illegal immigrants actually take far more than they contribute when it comes to the economy?
Well, everyone in here is intelligent and knows these factoids, so we're not going to go over it.
There's no reason to read the rest of this.
This is just a launching off point for something that I want to talk about with my panel tonight.
So we're going to go ahead and move to the Blue Dragon now.
Oh, that's the wrong thing.
I spoiled the question.
The Blue Dragon with us tonight is a Pachrasar of his clan,
which is a title given to the greatest visionary and thinker of the clan.
He lives in a huge magic city of Draft,
and other creatures that floats high above his beautiful desert.
He spends time learning about the vast, about the various complex worlds,
which show promise along the lines of technological advancement and ingenuity.
His question to us tonight is thus,
What level of financial hardship and economic decline is worth ending mass migration
and removing immigrants from your nation?
Do you have a limit?
I guess I go first, huh?
You did choose the dragon.
All right.
a lot of the GDP that you, that they talk about is basically them inviting illegals in here
and giving them free money and basically like giving them, I mean, the Haitians in Springfield
may as well have MX black cards from the things I hear that they're buying.
I mean, that's not really an exaggeration because the pictures we see, they've got brand new
smartphones, they've got good clothes.
$100,000 vehicles, $100,000 SUVs, and I hear they're buying guns.
So, yeah, import an army.
But, yeah, that's what you're seeing.
All this, you know, it's like, oh, look at how well the economy is doing.
Now, we know the economy is not doing well, but it should be doing, it should probably be in recession by now.
And it's being propped up by money printing and just giving it to people who are illegal and allowing them,
just go ham.
And, you know, people can make the argument, oh, well, you know, there's, there's Native
American, you know, there's Americans who are here.
There's heritage Americans who are getting free stuff too.
It's like, if I have a problem with that too, but if they need it, I'd rather go to them
than go to some fucking 65 IQ, you know.
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Insane person, you know,
a frigging voodoo practitioner from an island
that half of it should have been blown up.
Dominican Republic, that's fine. We need baseball players.
So, yeah, that's what we see.
Look, anything, any way we get this fixed,
it's going to be painful.
There's going to be a lot of pain for a while.
getting rid of deporting 40 million people,
it's going to hurt.
But also, prices are going to go down.
Price of housing is going to go down.
Price of food is going to go down.
The price of everything,
the price of everything is going to go down
if you get rid of 40 million people.
So I see an offset there,
but I think there will be pain.
It's just, I mean, if anything,
if you're sick, you know, you may have to do some.
something that hurts, you know, in the, in the short term, so then in the long term,
you're healthy again. And that's the way I see this working out.
I agree with you on that. I agree with you on that. Who else wants to take this question?
Yeah, I'll jump on that because I don't even think Pete's right. Okay, it will,
it'll, it'll hurt, you know, quote unquote for a brief period of time. But it's like,
you know, I come, I cut my finger today just working working with a night. And when I put,
alcohol on on on the cut yeah fucking hurt but I stopped the bleeding and you don't want to get an
infection and I'm not going to get an infection so it did it hurt yeah but it helped it helped way more
than it hurt you know I had a tweet months ago like think of the housing market what is the
housing market going to look like because everyone's talking about like oh no one can buy this is a
huge talking point economically no one can afford a house which is completely a
True. Completely true. Like real estate prices aren't saying. No one can afford a house.
Yep.
What how does 20 million people, you know, being removed change that?
A fucking law.
Oh yeah. Yeah. And these are low income people. And section eight housing. What does section eight do?
These these people get section eight housing assistance from the federal government. And what do they buy up?
They buy up all the two bedroom houses, all the town houses, all the townhouses, all the
single family houses, all the starter homes that were all built in the 80s and 70s.
They're getting those houses and you're not getting those houses.
So remove 20 million of those people, well, I think we're all going to be able to afford houses again.
Yep.
NewsFist, what do you think?
I think hunger is sort of like nailed it.
There will definitely be economic problems.
The biggest problem will be that the mass.
mass importation of immigrants has been used to slow the rate of inflation by keeping wages down.
And wages are said to be the main driver of inflation, but that is in fact a misnomer.
Rising wages are the most visible effect of inflation.
And that's why it keeps just going round and round around, around.
The government principal money devalues the currency.
People's pay declines in real terms.
and then they have to raise the pay.
Now, I think if we got rid of all the migrants,
the insane amount of money printing would actually be revealed.
It is only because of money printing that they can't actually afford to pay people
that live in their countries to do basic jobs.
It's that Keynesian nightmare train we're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, basically.
And that's why they're always like, oh, you know, it's because people are lazy.
No, it's because a very short time.
ago, within the living memory of many people, you had a situation where one parent could go
have a job and afford a nice house, a car, sometimes two cars, two kids, and go on holiday
once a year. And, you know, the people are so obsessed by the number. They just, a lot of people
just miss the decline in the actual purchasing power of your currency, which has degraded to
insane level and we'll just continue to degrade as long as the current financial system is in play.
But I think if we got rid of all the migrants as Hungary, I think we're saying, or Pete, the price of many things would go down.
The problem is that the economists that run the West have basically gotten their mind that the price of anything
going down significantly at any point is ruinous because of the way, you know, the economic
system is leveraged. This is one of the reasons why they're so against deflation. And so this
would be like, this would be a massive shock. And yeah, it would massively change the economy.
But on the other hand, right, you wouldn't have to deport them all at once, right? You could easily
take like, okay, so the first thing, just remove all the pull factors. Okay, so in the UK and the US,
stop giving them infinite money and stuff like. But again, this is not, this is not an accident,
right? Let's, let's not pretend like, oh, who would have thought that if we left a,
you know, huge jar of honey outside, it would like attract flies? I mean, bullshit, right? They
know exactly what they're doing. But yes, if you remove the pull factors and then you just sort of
increased enforcement, if you just made it, you know, sort of known that the place wasn't
welcome to, to migrants, you could, you know, gradually sort of like cut the numbers down,
although you might need something a bit more drastic.
I mean, in the UK, this is like a huge, just a massive problem.
We've got a problem here that you don't have in the US
because we've got the NHS, which is free at point of use
to, well, basically anyone at the moment, right?
So we are effectively running an international hospital
on a national budget, and it is all the actual productive people
who are paying out the ass for it, obviously.
So, yeah, it would be,
painful. But I think the greater pain, to be perfectly honest, would be the pain of all the
shit libs who would have, if this was done successfully and if things got better, they would have
to finally admit that maybe not every single person on the earth is the same or of the same
value and that maybe having a society where everyone can speak the same language is a good thing.
And they would just, oh, the coping seething and ambition would go on for years.
I want to address a comment over on Rumble.
Cool.
From Paladin Wabi Z.
Get a financial guy in our show so you can stop the bleeding that comes from not understanding how the treasury works.
Dude, we understand how the treasury works.
Like, we're talking about the exploitative usury of quantitative easing and central banking.
Like, we understand it, my dude.
I think Paladin's gotten to the MMT.
I don't know.
I'll ask him.
He's taking cold medication.
How does the treasury help me buy a house if another immigrant gets free money and I don't?
How does it help me buy a house?
Yeah, like the problem we were talking about first there, Paladin,
even if there wasn't fiat currency and central usury,
if you had a government that was massively importing foreigners
and in a hurry to replace its host population,
flooding tons of people into an area of finite space with finite homes,
it doesn't matter what type of currency you have,
but it would still massively increase the value of those homes.
So those are kind of separate issues there.
But anyway, I would love to have a long spurgy economics conversation with you
because old Ron Paul and Libertarian ANCAP stuff is what got me started down the pipeline anyway.
I think I even had, I think I talked to Pete about that at a function we went to actually.
We got to speak a lot.
We got to talk a lot that weekend.
We did.
That was a lot of fun, man.
That was a good time.
I'm not really.
I got to,
Why don't you take the Dragon's question?
You're the only one that hasn't answered it yet?
Yeah, I mean, the other answers have been fantastic so far.
The only thing that you guys have really left me with is that
I've heard from one source, it would cost $60 billion to do approximately,
based on hiring lots of ICE agents and then building regional centers
where they flow towards either airports or the border or wherever.
and I don't know what it's based on, really.
I don't know enough. I'm not exactly a financial bro.
Not that I don't know some basic economics.
I've been studying Austrian economics.
I have to agree with the Treasury as well.
It does not help in any way.
And the destruction of such entities would cause a significant amount of deflation,
considering the destruction of the currency involved, if it's destroyed.
Yeah, I have to say, it's Ron Paul and that caught me down this road as well.
I know I've been, I know for a fact I've been a libertarian since at least when I was 14.
And by the time I was 15, I was an objectivist.
And my relationship with the objectivism is something that's very close and near and dear to my heart.
I still need to have a long talk with you about that one day.
We need to do that.
Oh, God, yes, we got to do that because I see it as a way to be a big ill libertarian and a big
so you can serve it at the same time.
And I think you're wrong. That's why I need to talk about it, but that's a conversation for another day.
Well, it's not for everyone.
I can help with Paladin's comment.
Stormy Waters does a really good job of talking about how
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is a greater cause of inflation than anything else.
else because if you're not manufacturing here, you, the level, the amount of money that you
have to put into energy like gas and oil and fuel and everything else to transport everything,
everything around, that increases the price of everything. That's where you're getting it from.
I think he, he says something like it costs like a dollar for every mile to transport by truck,
50 cents every mile to
transport by, I forget what the other thing he said,
but he said it's like 10 cents a mile to transport by ship.
So we could be floating, and we have like the biggest river system in the world
in the United States.
We could just be transporting things by ship if we were creating it here,
if we were building it here.
So you have to take into consideration that what energy does,
does to the price, to consumer price index.
It sends things through the roof.
Anybody who's working in manufacturing, yeah, 50 cents.
Yeah, someone just said, 10 cents, a dollar by road, 50 cents by rail, 10 cents by water.
Gotcha.
Anybody who's working manufacturing knows this.
Like energy is the most important.
Energy affects the price of literally everything.
the entire economy. And I assume that that's one of the reasons why, as soon as Biden came in and
stop all the oil stuff, that's one of the things that made the economy start getting shitty or almost
immediately. And that's one of the reasons why Paladin is saying that Ron Paul and Elon Musk getting
together and talking about the economy isn't great for the economy because it's not all the Federal
Reserve and they're globalists. And I'm not saying they're globalists because they want global,
they want global government.
They're globalist because they want global trade.
And when you get global trade,
that's when you get the,
you're using more energy
than you actually need to
when it could just be built right here.
Sure, maybe we may not be able to mine graphite here.
We're going to have to get it from somewhere else.
But we are rich here in so many different things.
So when you have these free marketers,
these people who are completely against tariffs,
they think tariffs are the worst thing.
I mean, this country ran on just tariffs for a century, and it was probably the most prosperous
century we had, the 19th century, where we didn't kill the power, you know, where we didn't
kill the dollar by sending everything overseas and kill purchasing power by sending everything
overseas.
Yeah, that's why I left Austrian economics.
I put Austrian economics behind me, and now I study people like free drugs.
list and even Alexander Hamilton, because either of the people who talk about tariffs and tariffs
are the way you keep manufacturing here and you keep energy prices and you keep the consequences
of energy prices down. Gotcha. Well, anything else on this topic before we move on, gentlemen?
All righty. I think that means we can move on because we don't have any paid chats that I can see
anywhere. So we can go ahead and bring back the dragons. Bring back the dragons. All right.
We just did the blue dragon, health or wealth, which means we have Fs for Fred and peanut,
mail-in voter intimidation and basket of garbage. Why will it be next, Mr. Pete?
Male-in voter intimidation. All right. From the Black Dragon. Very good. Black Dragon.
Oh, yes.
Very good, very good.
All right.
Come on, OBS.
Work, please. Thank you.
Leftist groups, this comes to us from the Federalist,
leptist groups turn to threats to get out the vote.
Maryland's Attorney General is warning the voter participation center
to stop sending threatening mailers to its
residents. Growing increasingly desperate in a tight presidential race, leftist groups appear to be
turning through the intimidation game just days before the election. The Maryland Attorney General's
office is warning the infamous voter participation center to stop sending mailers to residents,
threatening to expose their voting records. Attorney General Anthony Brown, a Democrat, sent the VPC
a cease-and-assist letter after Marylanders complained of receiving the group's so-called voting report
card attempting to shame people into voting. We're sending this mailing to you and your neighbors to
share who does and does not vote in an effort to promote election participation. While we have
hidden the name and street number of your neighbors to protect privacy, these are their true
voting records, the mailer warns. We will be reviewing these records after the election to determine
whether or not you joined your neighbors in voting. In a press release, Brown admonished the
voter registration activist group, that any action that intimidates prospective voters,
especially on the eve of such a consequential election, will not be tolerated.
It's really gross.
The VPC, which bills itself as a non-profit, nonpartisan organization, yeah, right, we've heard
that before, with a mission to help members of the new American majority register and vote
has been using such tactics for the better part of two decades, said Parker Thayer,
investigative researcher at the Capital Research Center.
He said the VPC and groups like it are rare.
held accountable. They used the First Amendment to push their intimidation campaign.
Maryland residents aren't the only Americans that receive threatening voting messages.
This particular bullying tactic to try and intimidate or bully people into voting has been
incredibly popular this election cycle. They are told me in a private interview Friday afternoon
from Battleground Michigan, this is a tactic of desperation. As Thayer noted on X, the leftist
group, Now This Impact, created a website that shows users
how to, quote, stalk the voting history of an ex, friend or family member, and bully them for not voting.
You go to did my friendsvote.org, put in their name, age range, and place their registered to vote, a young woman in a video on this site explains.
As an example, I did my mom, and she's actually voted quite a bit.
Let's move on now.
To inaccurate and potentially misleading.
The Voter Participation Center was founded in 2003, starting out as Women's Voices, Women Vote,
according to Influence Watch, Capital Research Center's nonprofit tracker.
The group initially focused on registering the strongly democratic-leaning voting block of single women to vote.
Today, the group organizes registration of numerous democratic-leaning voting populations.
The VPC has long operated in a direct male campaign, targeting unmarried women, minorities, and millennials,
according to influence watch, with ties to the Clinton Foundation, no doubt started Bapadesta like most of them,
the Democrat Party and other leftist groups. The VPC has faced a litany of criticisms, allegations,
and charges about unethical, even fraudulent practices. In 2020, Fairfax County, Virginia,
warned voters about an inaccurate and potentially misleading mailing from the center of voter information,
the VPC's sister nonprofit. The group is mass mailing, pre-filled advertising,
absentee ballot applications to county voters without their request, and the mailer includes
return envelopes to send the application to the city of Fairfax, not Fairfax County.
In March, the Alabama Secretary of State advised residents of a misleading, unsolicited mass
mailing of pre-filled-in voter registration forms targeting Alabama mailboxes.
The mass mailings were the products of VPC and CVI.
And, well, this just goes on to talk about how they've been doing this and for years and years and years and years, and they barely ever get a slap on the wrist for doing it.
So let's move to the Black Dragon now.
The Black with us tonight chooses to keep details about himself secret, but serves the Great Dragon Empire in his own way.
He studies our world not just for entertainment, but to learn about our unique cultural war and all of the oddities which go along with it.
He is very curious about this democratic process and wonders how useful it is for real,
politic. So here is the question. And Pete, you chose this one, so it comes to you first, right?
Okay. Do you think we should care about voting ethics or even voting itself at all? Is it worth
caring about if you're concerned with real politic? Actually, the question I've been asking myself
lately is, does voting matter if you live under an occupied government?
Yeah. Do we voting ethics? I mean,
the way to handle the left's voting practices is to do, I think, what DeSantis did in Florida.
He basically set it up and redistrict the whole thing so that like a Democrat will never win again in Florida.
So, I mean, I think it's important.
I think voting, I care more about voting.
voting when it comes to state and local, state county and local.
Same.
I think that's where you can make the most difference.
Real politic, I mean, real politic is getting in there and using power, the power that
you have and expanding your power as well.
So, yeah, I think that, I think we should care about voting ethics only in that we should
meet it.
And we should meet it more force, meet it more forcefully.
Okay.
But really concentrating where we have the ability to do that,
which would be local, county, or even state if you live in a very small state.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I agree with all of that, by the way.
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Yeah, and I've been saying that.
Who wants to take this one next? Okay, go ahead.
Well, I mean, this is what I've been saying for years, right?
You know, support your local politics. That's what's important.
Obviously, in most years, the federal elections has been global versus globalists, so it's easy to see that voting didn't matter very much.
Now that we have someone who's shown that he's not quite part of the establishment, this actually adds some value to it.
But, of course, Pete, of course, I respect what you're saying, and I view the whole situation of direct democracy voting as antithetical to the American system anyway.
There should just be electors appointed, and then they vote for president, and that should be the end of it.
There shouldn't be something that's on every individual's minds.
They have more important things to do than this, and they shouldn't be deciding it either.
They just aren't up to the task.
We had a system where there was at least one level between any elected official,
where you would vote in your local legislator, and then they would appoint,
they would collectively appoint you senators
and that would be
that differentiated it from Congress.
Congress was the only part
of our government that was directly elected.
And that's fair enough
to have that to balance out the rest of it.
I still don't like it.
Yeah, I don't like it either.
I think it actually should go too.
They should be appointed as well.
I have no problem with it being based on population
if that's the case, but it shouldn't be directly,
there should be no direct
elections. People aren't
I love my
fellow Americans but
there's just not enough time in a day
for them to be up to the task.
It used to be, you had to be
35, had to own property
and were they head of your household.
And before anybody accuses
me of being sort of like massagist
or anything, in a household
where... Nobody here's going to do that to you.
What the hell? Classical liberal.
You can't be more misogynist than me.
I have to hunt women at night.
It can be more misogynist, racist, or anti-semit than me.
That's true.
I've been taking lessons for people, guys.
That's true.
I literally have to get on all fours in like hunt women at night to be more,
to be like more massacist than our audience.
You've got to get on their level.
That's some rookie numbers.
You're going to pump those up, son.
Yeah.
But anyway, go ahead.
But anyway, the point is that the standards need to be much higher.
and it needs to be people who have a stake in their community
who are actually making any decisions about anything,
if anyone at all.
So at least the people who are, like, say, functional in their community,
pick the guy that they know that's the most qualified for the, say,
the local position on the, um, in the legislator.
And then all these guys who are pillars of these communities
can pick two competent senators.
And fair, yeah, that's fair.
That respects Great Man theory.
It respects the natural order.
And it respects the part of monarchies.
that we inherited from the British system that are actually good.
The whole point of a republic is that it's supposed to be the evolution of a monarchy.
The head of the executive is supposed to replicate the pros of having a monarch
without many of the cons.
And it's just the fact that we're at a point where I could probably pick a random boomer
and they'd say, oh, the electoral college is out of date
because it's essentially turned into a bunch of rubber stamps.
It's like, well, you're the problem.
problem, dude. You're the problem. You have not even a paper-thin understanding of our own civics,
let alone our history. How to how to how do you want this? With open democracy and universal
suffrage? Yes. You don't, you shouldn't, this is evidence that you shouldn't have any part of it.
You're not, you're not, you're not ready. You're not educated enough. And by no definition of that
word either, whether it is the leftist definition or the real definition of actually, you know,
reading some goddamn primary sources
and history.
No,
that's not even
indoctrination stupid. That's just
complete ignorance. You don't
know the civics.
I can't make any
better case than half of
people are below average IQ
in that they shouldn't be involved in politics in any
way. They have bigger things to think
about, like where they're going to get their next
meal from Mommy or Nuggies or
something. Where they're going to get their next
tendies. Exactly.
Exactly.
I mean, some of these people are barely trainable for their jobs.
Well, let's hear from somebody else.
NewsFist.
I saw you unmute.
Is it your turn?
Yeah.
Okay.
So people forget a very important aspect of democracy, which is to lessen intergroup
conflict.
So you could make an argument in terms of voting ethics that,
that it is seen to be fair is actually more important than whether it is actually fair.
Now, some people might say, oh, well, you know, we should have a monarchy and all that kind of other stuff.
But the fact of the matter is that the political formula upon which the West operates at the moment is democracy.
To switch to another political formula would require some kind of massive upheaval.
So if we wanted to go to a monarch, for example, you would need – I mean, this is Plato.
Wait, is Plato and Machiavelli, you know, after democracy, it goes back to principality.
Out of the mob, someone emerges that can take control.
Trump is a good example of this.
You know, you need a great man that everyone or most people will follow, not because they're told to follow, but because he's got, you know, he's got the thing that people follow.
So if you want to run a democracy correctly, I guess, then yes, you do need voting ethics.
Problem is, of course, that the managerial state sort of overrides this eventually, right?
You can't really run any kind of country sort of properly if everyone changes chairs every four years, right?
You know, people hate this, but it's true, right?
this is what causes the birth of the managerial state,
because there are some decisions and some directions that need 10, 20 years,
which is one of the reasons, by the way,
that the West has such a stick up its ass about countries that have long-term rulers.
Yeah, and that's another thing that I think we even talked about together on stream a year or two ago
is how having this really narrow window of revolving door elected officials,
it leads to their never being any accountability,
and that's why people just get in and lie and steal and cheat and take what
can get because they know they're just going to bounce out.
Absolutely.
I mean, look at what's happening with Trump possibly being OHAD, right?
The most squealing is from the managerial class because Trump's like, you know, he's going
to clear them out.
Or he says he's going to clear them out, right?
Yeah, I'm not even when I see it.
Even the threat that the managerial state could actually, you know, undergo significant change
is enough to create this huge chew and cry.
Modern democracy is essentially picking the,
I don't know, the cod piece for the managerial state.
You know what I mean?
You just swap the cod piece out and then you jangle it in front of the people.
And you're like, oh, look, it's a different cod piece, right?
You know, throw your eggs at the cod piece, right?
Lots of people have talked about this.
I mean, Scrump did it and made an excellent analogy of like, you know,
depending on who the leader is, you stick your thumb against the machine and it will be like,
you know, order accepted or order denied.
And since, you know, the left has taken over the managerial state, it's, you know,
But look, if we had like actual proper elections, I don't know, I think many Western societies
have become so complex at this point.
You need a managerial state to run them.
But the current situation that we have where the managerial state are essentially
invisible and unaccountable and take more and more power leading people to be confused
where power really lies.
I mean, this is another big problem.
People don't actually know who's making the decisions.
and this sort of leads into the shell game of, you know, of democracy.
Oh, it's Boris Johnson making the real decision.
The fuck it is, right?
It's not, right?
Like, it's some faceless bureaucrat that you've, you've never seen and you will, like, never meet.
And unless you're like a complete politics tired, you'll never know.
Yeah, that's all I got to say.
Okay.
Hunger Merchant.
What do you think, my friend?
I love democracy.
Ironic.
I'm going to be democracy's biggest supporter tomorrow.
Tomorrow is going to be, I'm going to be the biggest supporter of democracy because I'm voting for friends and punishing my enemies.
Yep.
And I just wanted to clear up.
I'm not the biggest antee semite.
I'm just like a huge pattern noticeer.
Yeah, I mean, those words are kind of synonyms though, Pete, aren't they?
Yeah, but I'm definitely the smallest.
That was cute, three.
That was good.
Hunger? Is there anything else you wanted to say on the topic? Because I have some things to share.
No, not really. No. Democracy is what it is.
When it comes to the old real politic, taking power and doing power stuff, I do think that for us, for our friends, for our group, I do think ethics matters to us.
But we have to be willing to deny the benefits of those ethics to people who oppose them.
that has been a major crutch of people with moral value on our side of things, just generally speaking.
I think that when it comes to voting stuff and voting ethics, well, we can't just go flip a switch and end universal suffrage.
That ain't going to happen.
I do think that we have to be concerned, at least on the local level, and to some degree larger levels, with voting and voting ethics, because there needs to be, like was said earlier, the perception of fairness and the perception of the system being good and working.
because you can't just have unrest and the common man being completely detached and thinking that
anyone of any strike that has any kind of political power is a corrupt evil monster.
Once you get to that point, you don't really have a civilization or a society anymore.
You have to rebuild.
It's just an economic zone full of individual actors, which in many places we are already starting to see that become the case.
So I do think that if we are going to do this real politic game, and we have been,
and we start taking power,
we do have to have at least the appearance of being the good guys
and better than the people that we are punishing
or we just become a different kind of tyrant for the common man to hate
and feel no connection to.
So how do you guys feel about my take on that?
Is it not based?
Is it not based enough?
Is it stupid?
What do you guys think?
But it's interesting.
I was thinking today about like,
my libertarian priors, my anarcho-capitalist priors.
And one of the things that you're taught is that,
that like nobody can be trusted with power.
They say, oh, we got to end the government because no one should have that power,
which just goes to my theory that libertarianism is just a bastardization of Christianity.
Because that basically is like original sin.
Everyone has original sin, but you don't have Christ.
It's Christianity without Christ because there's no one to come in and to forgive the sins
so that you can have a civilization.
So you're laying your cards down on the table and saying,
look, this is what we have to do.
We have to get rid of the state,
and then everybody will be forced to deal with each other.
And it's like, well, that's not how this works.
If you're telling me that, like,
I don't want to live in a world where nobody can be trusted with power.
The problem is that they've designed a system,
the managerial state,
the way it's designed with the New Deal regime
and especially through the moralization
of the Nuremberg regime
that
you don't know who's in charge.
You have a complete decentralized government.
There's 535 people who
534 seems to be bought by a foreign country.
I'm not even call them a foreign power
because all their power they have,
they have through by stealing from us.
And they can be bought.
But the reason that can happen is,
is that those are just, those people are just out there making decisions, but they're being
influenced by, the government's actually being run by unelected bureaucrats.
And what's the solution to that?
You know, it's like Thomas says, Thomas says, you don't need to make America 110.
You just have to, the system is designed so that they can exercise power from the outside.
side. You just have to make the system, revert the system back to the way it was, so they can't.
Because before that, before World War I, when they destroyed basically anybody wanting
the idea of monarchy and one-man rule, they had the ear of power, but they didn't have power.
Well, now they have power, and we just went through a century where basically 300 million
people were murdered.
By wars they started.
Or by regimes, by regimes that they propped up and inspired.
So we need a, we need to dismantle this managerial system.
I've heard some people out there who are vying for power or vying for the ear of power
who are talking about that.
I don't know that they, I don't know, you can trust them.
I don't know we want to, you know, because who knows, we're in such a low trust society.
that how do you trust somebody who's saying that that's what they want to do?
So elect me and I'll do that,
especially since they'll probably just get in there
and they'll show them the tape of, you know,
Kennedy getting his head blown off from a different direction.
And I'll be like, oh, okay.
Or they'll just show them pictures where their family sleeps or something like that.
Which is why, you know, someone like, you know,
you wish that Trump was that guy because, you know,
he really has nothing to lose at this point.
And it would be great if he was our, you know, Francisco Franco or, you know, our, you know, Binochet.
But the system, the managerial state needs to be demolished.
So we need to go back to the way things were run for, you know, 125 years in this country before World War I started just tearing everything down.
And they started exerting all their influence over the government.
Obviously, I'm not an American, but from my point of view, if Trump just stops 2030 and cripples the power of the UN, that will be a massive W for the entire planet.
Just if he gets in, the whole 2030 thing is basically off.
I mean, they'll probably say, oh, we're going to do 2040 now.
But if Trump actually gets the U.S. economy going, lowers energy prices and all this kind of other stuff, all the other Western countries are going to be like, wait, why can't we do that?
And, you know, the government will be like, no, no, no, no, no, we can't, you know, we, we can't do that.
It's racist, don't you know, it's like Trump.
But, you know, the never underestimate the effect of a good example on everyone else that's trying to do bad things.
It's going to be, it's going to be interesting.
Although I hope, you know, for all my Ameribros that Trump wins and he significantly improves your country.
But it will also have a knock on effect on the entire West, I think.
I think it's quite possible, yeah.
All right.
Well, gentlemen, that was good.
We have some paychecks to get to.
Let's get to those before we move to the next dragon.
Assuming you guys are done, anybody else does have anything important to say or can we move on?
All right.
We will move on.
Over on Cash app, we have Jason Kuna, the No White Guilt Guy, in for $10 U.S. dollars.
Thank you so much, Jason.
I deeply appreciate it, friend.
He says, you are a force of nature, Fult, Tithe, and Kip.
Well, I appreciate that, Jason.
You're very kind to me.
I thank you for that.
All right.
Over on entropy, we have three.
US dollars from E.H.
I recognize that username, but I don't remember who you
are. For three U.S.
dollars, he says, hunger.
Great chat this evening. Pete,
I love you, fella. I'm eating a potato
pancake for you right now.
I assume you'll know who
that is, Pete.
I don't know who that is, but potato pancakes,
but potato pancakes are great.
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm muted for a second. Yeah, I know
who that is, but
yeah, he's speaking to my, he's speaking to my
Polish side right now is like, now I want potato pancakes and just the only way to eat potato
pancakes is just put it in your hand, take a slob of sour cream, and then roll it up like a,
like a freaking canoli.
Stop.
Potato pancakes and sour cream.
That's the real shit right there.
That's East European glory.
It's good stuff.
I never had that.
We don't really have any Polack around here.
Mate, you're missing out.
You're one of the best things about Eastern Europe is potato panics.
I guess they kick us.
Well,
oops, wrong button.
We just did the Black Dragon, which means
we only have two left.
We have a basket of garbage from the
red and F's for Fred
and Peanut.
Pete Quinonis, you are the party leader.
Do you want to pick the next topic or have a party member do the next topic?
Hunger, why don't you pick
the next target?
Let's have fun.
Let's do basket of garbage.
Okay.
Moving over to New York Post.
Biden brands Trump supporters garbage, sparking fury among Republicans, as White House tries to cover for him.
I assume most of you've already heard of this during, I'll just read it real quick.
President Biden branded Donald Trump supporters garbage on Tuesday at the same time as his vice president and successor Kamala Harris tried to pitch herself at the Democratic Party as unifiers and truth challenged closing appeal to voters.
The 81-year-old sitting duck president, who has largely been sidelined from campaigning for Harris,
delivered the shocking insult as he railed against Kill Tony podcast host, Tony Hinchclips bit during Trump's Sunday night rally,
during which a comedian called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage.
The only garbage I see out there is his supporters.
Oh, ho, all right.
That's enough of that.
We don't need to read anymore, that.
Let's go ahead and move to the Red Dragon, which is this badass bellicose dragon here.
I know Ivan the Horrible in chat will like this dragon.
He likes my bellicose dragons.
All right.
The Red with this tonight was once known as a sky tyrant,
a mighty Red Dragon warrior who commands other dragons and the flying war machines of the Empire.
He served the Empire's battle forces for 400 years before retiring to be an honored ambassador for his clan.
He keeps a sharp eye on Earth.
and he's learned a lot about us in the last few decades.
His question tonight is about the odd social warfare that we wage.
Hunger Merchant, this question comes to you first, my friend.
How effective is the labeling of political enemies with negative terms like deplorable or garbage?
Do you believe it's a tactic which will work for our side of the war?
I believe because the left can't meme and because these are humorless,
cat ladies and boomers.
They have no, they have no idea what they're doing.
I mean, it's, it's backfired every single time they've done it.
Everyone remembers the deplorables.
In Biden's case specifically, I refuse, I refuse, I genuinely believe Biden is working for Trump
from behind, from behind enemy lines.
So he's just helping out his good friend Don in the election to take out, you know, that.
Yeah, the help.
But do I believe this tactical work for our site?
It's very powerful to label your enemies.
It's very powerful to label your enemies.
I mean, there's a lot of historical examples of that.
I mean, famously the Nazis were branded by their enemies as Nazis.
But it works for our side because we turn,
because we are the side of truth and humor.
We have Tony freaking Hitchcliff on our side as well.
So we have all the best comedians.
And we really do.
It's very powerful.
Yeah.
It's the humor is powerful.
When you take your enemy's label and turn it into a positive, that that's actual real power.
And so that's why the left can't meet.
It just never works for their side.
And also, I mean, I do think words are powerful.
Like, like, we weren't conquered.
and turned it into these self-loathing, white-guilted consumer drones with terrorism and bombs and guns,
it was words and ideas that warped us and made us this way.
No, well said.
So who wants to take this question next?
Well, I mean, when you see something that really, if I'm autistic about anything,
it's about people using political labels wrong.
Like when people say that Kamala Harris is,
Kamala Harris is a Marxist.
Really?
That's insulting Marxists.
Marxists were some bad,
badass pipe hitters, you know,
who would personally put bullets in like hundreds and thousands of people.
She's just a tool of a foreign,
she's just another tool of a foreign power.
She's just a tool, period.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, so I just want people, say what, figure out what someone is and say it.
And if they are, I mean, it's hard to come up with a good term for like, oh, you're owned by a foreign power.
But that's what it is.
I mean, the left wants to play these games where they just pick out a stupid word and use it against their enemy.
And then, you know, their enemy, their enemy just adopts it for themselves.
And it's just dumb.
They don't know.
You could say definitely the left can't meme because they are trying to meme when they do that.
But I don't even know how useful it is anymore.
It's just basically, I mean, we're into Schmidt territory.
It's friend-enemy.
It's a dialectic.
And that's where we are.
and it's the way I look at it.
There are a lot of people who call themselves right wing who I consider to be enemies.
And I consider myself to be right wing, although so many people would be like, well, no, if you believe in the state, that just means your left wing.
And that's just libertarian autistic nonsense.
Yeah.
Nonsense words, you know, so.
Yeah.
I really don't care about the terms left and right at all, Pete.
I just care what's right.
I care what's true and I care what's good for my people.
I guess that makes me about as far right as you can get, though, by that metric.
That makes you woke right, you know, according to.
Oh, no, no, no, no, don't bring that crack up.
I hate that.
I would just agree with you.
Talk about something that doesn't stick.
While of being a Marxist.
Yeah, for every Bolshevik or Stalinist pipe hitter,
there are a hundred sort of low information Marxists that just,
sort of cling to the basic
summaries of it without really
understanding it.
But I mean...
Well, if they don't understand that they're not a
Marxist. It's like someone calling themselves
a fascist who when you mention,
you know, like Giovanni
Gentile, they're like, who?
So then you don't know what fascism is.
Yeah, but then you essentially leave out
anyone who isn't an intellectual is the
problem. And these are both mass movements.
So by definition, right, they need to have a mass component.
So how do you refer to the mass component,
knowing that they are not going to understand the, you know, intricacies?
I'm not going to call some Russian who was on the,
some Russian who was on the Eastern Front fighting, you know,
fighting the National Socialist invasion, a Marxist because he's out there fighting.
Yeah, I'm just, I refuse to do that.
I see what you're getting out.
That's a good point.
I think labeling can be extremely effective if it's done right.
You know,
Marxist means any.
Marxist doesn't mean anything anymore than fascist means anything anymore.
Nobody knows what those terms mean.
I mean, it's just all it is, it's like, I mean, they call,
I remember talking some fucking boomer in 2020 who I told them,
I said, Joe Biden is like center, he's center left.
And it's all of you is.
He's like, no, no.
Yeah, I'm like, he's like, no, he's a communist.
I'm like, when has he ever called for the seizing and the means of production, you stupid fucking boomer?
Yeah.
He's also like rejected being called a socialist during his campaign in 2020.
Well, because he's not.
Like, it's just, it's just objectively false to call.
Like, this is why in some of the, I know I haven't written a lot from my substack,
but in some of my writings on substack, I talk about this, how it's in a,
effective and useless to try to label our political enemies or cultural enemies as like Marxists or Nazis or
communist or whatever. Those words meant something once upon a time. Now it's just mudslinging words
that have no real connection or meaning in people's minds other than what they think that it is
from comic books and movies and crap or whatever the talkie box tells them to think.
Thomas 777 makes a really good point. There is no third way.
in the United States.
There is no third way in the West.
You're either a globalist or you're an anti-globalist.
That's it.
That's the dialectic.
You're either anti-globalist or you're globalist.
And free marketeers,
they're globalists.
They're, I mean, they,
you cannot have free trade with the world
and not be a globalist.
Because then you're going to have to make the art,
because a big part of that is labor.
And you want the cheapest labor.
So what are the art?
arguments you're going to make. You're going to make, well, that we need all the legal immigration that we can get to bring these 65 IQ fucking fruit pickers over here that are going to fuck everything up.
Yep.
There's globalists. There's anti-globalists. There's no third position.
Yeah, that's one of the things that that reminds me is one of my first conversations with Carl Benjamin Sardana Picard many years ago back in the Facebook days of the liberalists.
I made a point that left versus right doesn't matter, labor and Tories don't matter, the real dichotomy between people, whether it's a corporate guy or a politician or just a regular guy who owns a small business or works for a small business, you are either for your local people and your country first or you're of this globalist way of thinking.
That's really the only dichotomy.
That's really the only distinction.
And that's why I like to go free method.
It paints everything in this nice dialectic dichotomy of terms where you're either for us or you're not for us.
And that's really the dichotomy that matters, not left versus riot or national socialist or communist or whatever.
Yeah.
Funny, all this talk about Marxism made me think, hmm, what is the synthesis of globalism and anti-globalism?
What?
Regionalism.
Yeah.
I guess, but that's a good answer.
So to answer the dragons question anyway, look, labeling can be very, very effective.
This, I think Solvinsky said it better.
This is why I would try and define, you know, something like Marxism as a, in a value-free way,
as a set of political tactics that can really be used by anyone.
You know, what is it, he said?
You name your target, freeze it and isolate it, right?
So naming is part of that process where you associate like a certain thing or behavior,
preferably a sort of necessary part of your opponent's political worldview as a certain negative thing
and then, you know, get them to relentlessly defend it.
And if it's something that cannot be defended or is something that is sort of unallowable in the current thought regime,
all the better. You waste your opponent's time, getting them to constantly explain this.
Racist is a really, really good example of this that the left uses, you know what I mean,
because it's now come to encompass basically, you know, any kind of soft nationalism,
being against mass immigration, all these kinds of things. You can make your enemy sort of run
around in circles by just going, oh, I'm not a racist, I'm not a racist, I'm not a racist,
and why they're doing that, they're not getting their ideas out there. It puts them on the defensive.
Um, yeah, I think it could, well, I think it's, it's bound to work, humans and narrative beings
and the way that people sort of construct the political world, generally speaking, is through
narratives and the more low information, the, uh, the person, the more simple these, these narratives,
which is why, you know, things like, you know, Joe Biden as a communist, for example, is,
uh, popular, you know, person I don't like is bad thing.
You're a big shook, right? Like, that happens, that happens all the time. Um, yeah, I think,
But, you know, I think you can do it too far.
I'm seeing this thing in the US election.
It's making me wonder.
So as a story came out that the UK Labour Party
had sent a bunch of political advisors over to Kamala's campaign
to try and get them to replicate the victory that they had with Kirstama.
I don't know why they thought this would work.
Kirstarma was only voted in because everyone hated the incumbent so much.
And, I mean, I don't know.
whether, anyway. But one of the tactics that Labor was sort of known for using, and also failed
massively under Jeremy Corbyn, by the way, was just guilt-tripping people into voting. And I have
seen a massive slew of these kinds of like things recently in the past couple of weeks.
It seems to be the only message that Harris campaign has left, apart from, you know, Trump is
mustache man and Trump will destroy the world. You know, you're a bad person if you don't vote.
You know, you can vote secretly. You don't have to tell your friends. Like, don't worry
about the social pressure.
So, yeah, you've got to be careful.
If you use it too much, you can backfire on you.
All right.
Anyone else that want to take this one and have something to say on it?
Big shook.
I'm literally vibrating here.
I think that, yeah, the whole thing with labeling of political enemies,
it's genuinely really effective with people who already agree with,
the label. I think Trump has mastered this
with me coming up with all the silly
names and whatnot and
reclaiming the names that are used
against his people. Like
Nus says, you got to do it the right way.
You got to have an instinct for it.
You have to, you know,
have the zeitgeist for it.
I think, you know,
Meatball Ron is a great name,
right? Isn't it? It really works.
And I think
turning around deplorables, in our little
basket of deplorables, yeah, I'm a
Yeah, I'm a deplorable. What of it? What do you want? If you think I'm a deplorable, yeah, I'm a deplorable. Because nobody should respect you. Nobody should see your judgment as reliable, and no one should treat you with respect. Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve any of that from anyone. And although that's not going to work within their circles, it's certainly going to stick and give us unity. It's not about, it's one of those things that's not about reaching outside. It's not outreach. It's about hardened.
the base, I think. I think that's when it works. You can't use it towards your enemies because your
enemies were rejected. It'll just be an inside joke at most. That could, again, be banter that's good
within your own group, but it tends to not be good for outreach, because you can't call your
enemies a bunch of, you can't use ad-hom with your enemies. You could use them, you know, for your
enemies because you don't expect to work with your enemies even slightly, but the independence, it might
tick them off. It's why
I tend to not resort to
it whenever I'm talking to someone I don't
immediately agree with because
being respectful to such people might
bring them over to my side or might
radicalize them in the other direction.
It's just not a good way to treat people
who you actually respect.
Agreed.
Yeah.
All right. Anything else?
I wish I'd more to contribute.
Oh no, that's fine. No, it's fine. Anything else
from anybody? I'm old school.
I just like to call people assholes.
It is satisfying, isn't it?
Very satisfying.
But I just wanted to add, sorry, you guys, I do have to balance in a little bit.
I have OGC chapter business to take care of.
It's a little bit, it's a little bit early.
I do have to bounce, though.
Well, before you go real quick, then, let me do these paid chats because they might be for you,
because I saw three more come in from E.H.
Let me read these.
Oh, fantastic.
Thank you, E.H. for all of these wonderful donations.
I appreciate it.
For $3.
He says, Hunger, I just talked to you for like 45 minutes.
And then he says, he doesn't mind me using his role name.
It's Eric, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that's Eric's great.
Okay.
Uh, E.H says for $3 again, my Ken in the North were piled by pills and replied by pills and despair.
These deindustrialized areas that are now being repopulated by foreigners.
It's, it's all just natural.
It's all happening in a vacuum, guys.
Yeah, right.
He's in Pennsylvania.
Yeah, he's in Pennsylvania.
That's where my, my mom's family is from Western PA.
And yeah, it's just all getting infested by, I mean, Haitians in like Charleroy, Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
But, I mean, if you ask Eric, it's a hell of a lot of fucking Pagit's too.
Yep.
There's a white well-being guy that I talked to who's, who is from.
And I don't know if he still lives there or not, but I know that his hometown's in northern PA.
And he said it's just been white erased, like, during his lifetime.
Like, it went from a nice, quiet, you know, little Christian white town in Pennsylvania to everybody worth the crap moving out.
because someone keeps pumping in African and Haitian and Asian foreigners and just floods their town.
And now it's just an absolute crap hole that everybody who could lift.
And it just-
Springfield,
Springfield, Ohio is no longer an American city.
I mean, unless they send all of those Haitians out of there,
unless they rip them out of there and send them back,
that's,
it's just poured out prints in Ohio.
I mean, that's what it is.
I've heard as many, someone told me they said that there's not 20,000, there's 30,000 there,
and all the women are pregnant.
Wow.
Yep.
That's what they do.
Last one before hunger goes, in case it's for, in case Eric has something to say to you,
he says for 10 U.S. dollars, thank you so much, Eric.
The leftist idea in this country in America is we are just fungible units, malleable units.
There are no differences between people.
That's their obstincent.
idea. When you scratch the surface, you know that it's more sinister. Yeah, I agree.
Hunger Merchant, thank you for being here, my friend. I hope you and the OGC gang has a great
night. Have a great night. And send them my best. Always a pleasure, guys. Have a great night.
Take it. Take your hunger. Take your hunger. My best to all the OGC guys from that area.
There you guys. Have a good night. Good night, hunger. See you like everybody. All right.
and oh we just had something else come in on entropy thank you so much
stumbling for three dollars says
the brown dragon asks are people getting dumber
if so is this caused by genetics or a combination of drug stimulants and junk food
interesting that you chose brown dragon for that one
and no obviously we like chris and i even covered
some of this stuff on dd before and we even did a
an empire of lies about parasites and stuff
I do think the things that are in us and the chemicals in us,
it does contribute to some of the problems that we have these days.
I do think that.
All right, let me refresh the other places since that took a while.
Let me make sure I'm not leaving anybody's paid chats out.
And I didn't think so.
All right, now we are clear to move on.
Unless I missed one on Rumble.
Sometimes that chat moves quick.
Let me scroll up and make sure I didn't miss a Rumble, a rant.
Oh, no, I did.
Ardent Party.
Ardent Party for two Canadian dollars. Thank you, Ardent Party.
Two Canadian...
Have two Canadian dollars for introducing me to the idea of potato pancakes.
That must have been from earlier. I'm sorry I missed that earlier, Ardette. My bad.
All right.
Let's bring back up the topics then.
And I believe that means we only have the one left.
Because we just did basket of garbage, which of course means we have Fs in the chat for Fred and Pino.
and I'm sure that everybody knows what this is going to be about.
Pete, do you want to be the first one to answer the question?
Or would you like to pick someone else to answer that question?
Oh, let's get NewsFist to do it.
All right.
NewsFist, my man, you get to go first.
Wait, so what are we left?
No, no, we only have the Fs for Fred and Peanut.
That's why I just went right to it.
Oh, right. Yes.
Yeah, I'll take that one then for 10 points.
Fans of Peanut the Squirrel raise over 150 grand
after beloved pet was euthanized by NY State Justice for Peanut.
Now, in case no one listening has heard of the explosive meme
that has been everywhere all over the internet since yesterday,
this cute little guy right here is a TikTok star, or was, I should say.
And where's the picture of the dude?
This dude and his wife are, they were using cute little TikTok animals
and their rescue animals to raise money to have like a wildest.
life range type of thing.
And some negative
Nancy called in
some kind of threat.
And without their knowledge,
these people had a raid on their
property and they were
basically held by
state officials for five hours
while a bunch of fed goons went through their
entire property looking for
a raccoon named Fred
and a squirrel named Peanut.
I don't have a picture up
of Fred, but
there was a raccoon named Fred in the story too.
And they were taken by the federal authorities.
And they said that they had to test them for rabies.
Well, they didn't just put them in a cage and observe them.
No.
The feds, the dirty-ass evil anti-white scumbag feds,
killed the squirrel, peanut, and the raccoon Fred,
and dissected their brains to test for rabies
instead of just observing them for a week in a cage.
And that I find to be absolutely despicable and evil.
And so I feel bad for Mark and Daniela Longo.
I feel bad for them, and I feel bad just in every way that this happened.
So if you want to donate to them, you can go find it.
They have a GoFundMe, and they've raised over 150 grand now.
And I do believe that they plan on taking legal action against the feds for this.
So they definitely have my support.
So let's go ahead now and move to the last dragon of the evening, which is the green dragon,
which is this badass guy here.
The green with us tonight is a nature guardian of an important nexus of lay energy,
which his clan have guarded for thousands of years.
He, of course, appreciates the myriad creatures of nature, including humans,
and doesn't want to see unnecessary harm come to any of us.
That being said, when harm does occur, it's best to make your peace with the law,
and use the experience as best as you can.
So NewsFist, here's the question.
Do you think cultural phenomenon like peanut and Harambe are useful for our side?
Is there real value in these things, or is it just culture war slop?
I can't speak about Harambe.
That's a little before my time.
But Peanut, absolutely.
The reason why this story ignited is not because it's a squirrel,
but because it's an example of the overbearing and overweening state.
The fact that the state has far too much reach into the lives of ordinary citizens in,
and everyone feels this in the West, right?
This is a relatable story.
Everyone feels at the mercy of the state.
Everyone feels that the state is partial and capricious.
everyone feels that there is no there's nothing I mean this probably varies from place to place
but in the UK especially there's no real feeling that anything you do is fully legal right because
if if the state wants to get you they're going to get they can make something up oh you said a bad
word 10 years ago oh you know you've got this they you know raid your house and you know find
something right like this is this is the general vibe and people are sick of it um I mean
no one really wants to live under a tyranny. I mean, that pretty much is the functional definition of
what a tyranny is, right? When you feel completely naked in front of the state that you feel that
there is, there is no justice that you as a citizen are just, you know, the state can just do
whatever the hell it wants. That really is, is a tyranny. And there is value in this. Interestingly
enough, tons of people have been tweeting
about anarcho tyranny in
relation to Peanut. I have been
posting our Empire. We did to get
the Mary Empire of Lies episode on that.
Yes, I've been
sub-tweeting that at people.
I think that
there's another effect as well
that people
are wondering, again,
particularly in the UK, but also in the US.
You know, what
what has gone wrong, by what rationale is the state operating? You know, most people are sort of
starting from this boomer assumption that, you know, the state, you know, exists for the good
of the people or some other, you know, clap trap. And until people are disabused of this notion,
they're not really going to have any way of pushing back because they still believe that
everything the state does, no matter how bad it is, is just a mistake. You're seeing this in the UK.
The government is about to completely destroy both the food system and the energy system.
And people are going like, oh, how could they be so stupid?
It's not, it's not stupidity.
I do not believe at this point that it is stupidity.
You cannot tell me that someone's like, oh, you know, let's light all the fields on fire and then be like, oh, gee, I had no idea that everyone's going to starve, right?
Either people in government are literally functionally retarded and, you know, unable to complete the sentence or they are doing this, you know, at least quasi deliberately.
So, yes, I think there is real value in everyday representations of the overreach of the state.
Plus, you know how white people love their small furry animals, right?
Like, you know, this was a particularly just white people things story, really, you know.
And so, yes, I think that does help us, yes.
Okay.
All right.
Who's next?
We'll take this one next.
I think it's going to be funny if this is the thing that wins the election in the end.
Is this like the November slot for like the memes of the year, peanut, wearing a little cowboy hat?
Well, I mean, yeah, I reckon.
So, I mean, I don't know.
It's something to start of November, mate.
So something more crazy.
what happened, to be honest.
For all we know, it could be like some politician
with a gun to their head.
Like, whatever random shit.
Politician does like a mass shooting or something like that.
Sorry, I shouldn't even say that.
Jesus, I thought I was being edgy with the suicide.
Oh, then again, there is that, that AI rendering,
you know, that AI generation of like November 5th,
24 and it's just tons of dead people.
It's horrendous and ominous.
But yes, I think it is useful.
I think like you said NewsFest,
it's positive because it exposes the state
for what it is, an anarcho tyranny.
It made people naked to the state.
It basically, they had their lives turned upside down.
in the five hours that they were raiding in their house,
they were, like, demanding to know the wife's immigration status, right?
I don't even understand that.
It's just, as much as I understand the narco tyranny,
it's just like, this is just, this is just beyond random.
I can only imagine they did that to just further drag it out.
I have to interrupt you with the hilarious comment.
Oh, no.
And it's also sad.
No peanut November.
Aww.
Yeah.
It was pretty clever, John.
That's a good one.
Peanut's out for peanut.
I think the answer is both.
I think it's culture war slop and has real value.
Yeah.
I mean, it's something you can use, but it's slop, and slop is fine to use.
I mean, let's face it, Harambe, the whole Harambe thing was Slop.
But it's just, but it's just dumb.
You know, anything that, it's a narrative.
And to be able to have something to build a narrative around that people care about.
You know, when July 13th happened in Trump, you know, Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania,
yeah, people were like immediately, immediately so many people on our side were like,
two shooters, three shooters?
Was it a stand down order?
I'm like, the narrative is the press has been talking, has been calling him Hitler,
has been calling him, and they took a shot at him.
If they'll take a shot at him, they'll take a shot at you.
That was the narrative that everyone should have ran with, but no, it's, there's someone
on the water tower, and oh, look, the bullet came for this.
Was he, how could he be 19 and not have any electronics?
Down the road, you asked those questions, but not at the moment.
Yeah, they turned it to swap.
Yeah, you're right.
The right, the right is terrible or, you know, whatever you want to call it, the
you know, the anti-globalists are terrible at creating their own narratives.
Well, I think we're getting, I think we're getting better at that.
And I think, you know, narratives, you know, it was Martin was the one who created the whole
narrative around they're eating cats and dogs and everything.
Yeah.
And that was just, that's in a non on Twitter who did that.
And it got, it made it all the way to Trump's mouth.
Mm-hmm.
So, I mean, that's, these are the, you have to look for things that are narrating.
building. And, you know,
having Mark Andresen,
billionaire, was
tweeting
Sam Francis's article
about a narco tyranny yesterday.
That's, these are white pills.
These are things that you have to look at and you have to go,
okay, if billionaires are talking about this,
if billionaires are like,
you know, if a billionaire is like,
if Trump doesn't win,
Kamala is basically going to put me in jail.
Like Musk said.
I don't know if she'll put him in jail, but they'll take everything from him.
They'll destroy him.
Yeah.
You know, and he has that attitude of he's actually said,
they killed my son.
Why do you say that?
That's the right idea.
That's the right mindset, by the way.
He should have that.
I want him to have that mindset.
Yeah.
And that you're seeing,
what you're seeing in real time is something that I've been tracking for about a year now,
is that billionaires are getting radical.
And then I have friends behind the scenes who are very, very successful, very wealthy, very in these groups, very intertwined with these, what you would call elites, what we would call the modern day robber barons.
And they're sharing 110 memes in their private groups.
They're asking people about their hedge fund managers or contacting a friend of mine and asking him,
all right, to tell me about the USS Liberty
or asking him,
tell me about that thing that happened in the 1940s.
Okay, okay.
Let's F and go.
So I think we're doing, you know,
I think our side by putting these things out there,
turning them into tropes, turning them into memes,
turning them into, it's in the zeitgeist.
And once it gets into the zeitgeist of boomer billionaires,
change can be made,
can being the operandi,
word there because they're going to fight tooth and nail to do whatever they can. But yeah.
All right. I want to address it. Oh, go ahead. New Sussex. No, I was just going to say that's a great
point. Never underestimate the boom of millionaires. That's a bit of a white pill, Pete. Well,
also, also one thing that you have to allow for, and I've done this, you know, I used to be a
hardcore libertarian anarcho-capitalist. On Amazon Prime right now, there is a movie that me and two of my
friends made a documentary about a narco capitalism. I was that guy, and I changed my mind. I didn't
change my mind to grift because I lost half of my income when I did it. So that was kind of stupid.
I did it because I changed my mind. Boomers can change their minds. Billionaires can change their minds.
Allow people to change their minds. Give them a chance to change their minds. And I understand the
urge of being skeptical.
But give it a shot.
Mark Andreson is one of the most powerful people in the world.
And he's been sharing, telling people to read James Burnham, telling people to read books
like the ancient city.
He's been, you know, sharing, sharing Sam Francis articles.
Nice.
There are things happening behind the scene.
There are things happening that you should be white-pilled about.
It's not going to happen overnight.
If you think it's going to happen overnight, you're retarded.
but things are moving and this is this is the kind of thing these are the kind of signals that you
have to look for if you're hoping to see things move in the direction in the right direction
it does it does sound a bit like a war in heaven which is what i was i was speculating about this
like a while back you know yeah a certain part of the the the moneyed elite actually splits off
and becomes our guys like it's it's going to be very very interesting you know there's been
anonymity among the capital class for for quite a while. I mean, not completely, but sort of,
you know, broadly speaking. Yeah. And that's one of the reasons why what you were talking about a minute
ago, Pete, that's one of the reasons I brought that Go Free Book to our conventions. And that's why I'd like
to push the rhetoric of it, because I would love for rich, powerful old white guys to start
using terms like anti-whiteism and anti-white and white erasure and stuff. Like, imagine how powerful that
would be if somebody like an Elon Musk
came out and was like
this biological white erasure of our people
because of mass migration has to stop
just imagine the power of that rhetoric
if it would come out of the mouths of people like that
do you follow Elon on Twitter
he's tweeted about the great replacement
he's tweeted about it. Oh yeah oh no yeah
he has clearly become radicalized
like yeah yeah
he's become incredibly based
he's from fucking South Africa
Yeah, I've been very vindicated on Elon Musk.
I've been telling people for years like, dude, he's on the journey.
He was a libertarian just a few years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah, now he's MAGA.
He's getting there.
He's going to be throwing up Romans soon.
And what are we going to do?
Well, I think I would keep my comments to myself on that one for now.
Wait, you know what I'll be able to teach my Tesla bot to, like, walk around and throw Romans?
Hmm, interesting.
Did you send the video going around today of that little robot dog that somebody programmed to follow people and call them race?
slurs.
Did you see that?
What the yellow one?
That's an old one too.
That's awesome.
And of course the women love it.
Yeah, I saw that going around my circles today and it gave me a chuckle.
Before we move on, I saw a little, our fox friend here.
She says, in America, you can't even drink wine on a picnic.
That one always really got me.
I don't know what you're referencing because where I live, it, because remember, America's a massive place and public behavior and drinking and
and drug laws are different state to state, county to county.
Where I live, you can take a cooler beer out to the park, everybody can drink.
Like, you can, like, it's completely legal to, like, carry guns and have booze,
as long as you're, like, not within, I think, what is it, like, 300 yards or 400 yards of a church around here or something like that,
or not a church, a church, a church or a school.
Like, zoning stuff on booze consumption and, and firearm and public firearms,
is very different all across America.
So I don't know what you're referencing exactly,
but that might have just been where you visited in America or where you live.
Because it's definitely not like that where I live.
You just wanted to comment on that, guys.
Sorry.
Yeah, where I live, if you start yelling at someone about taking a bottle of wine to the park,
you're not going to make it.
Here's the problem.
It was in New York.
That's the problem.
Upstate New York is usually pretty red.
Oh, but they might have to...
They couldn't have wine on a picnic.
Who knows?
They might have the problem, actually.
I've heard from people who live outside of New York City in New York State say that it's because of the cancerous leadership of the state that makes the laws there suck, even though obviously people outside the city are more normal.
Yeah, well, laws are made to be broken, especially that one.
Yeah.
It just makes the people redder and redder and redder because they have no control over their own state and then...
eventually leads into some sort of super majority in the state legislator or something.
Hmm.
What if that's coming?
Let us pray that leads to something good.
Yeah.
I have to get out of here in eight minutes.
Okay.
Well,
let's just do these.
And also,
also yes,
I asked you a question in the private chat.
If you'll,
I'm so sorry.
If I'm a scroll,
it's right above the,
um,
the,
um,
just a yes or no.
Oh,
uh,
no,
I am not.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
I would like to one,
one year, but this year was not the year.
I can't make it. Maybe next year.
No problem. Yeah. All right.
Over on entropy, we'll do these before Pete
has to go. Oh, it's Eric
again. He's got two more. Oh, we've got Irish
Christ, the White Willbeing Warrior up in
Canada. We'll do Irish Christ first for
three U.S. dollars. He says
an anti-S. semi, I don't understand this.
An anti-Semite. An anti-Semite is always an
anti-white first, hence big Satan, little
Satan. The great non-white
remigration from North America is the compassionate and moral path to take considering everything.
He means something different there.
Okay.
He mistyped.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Well, thank you for the $3.
If you're saying you shouldn't hate them, you should just repatriate them.
I agree with that sentiment.
I am not a hater either.
I don't want people to, like, ethnically cleanse or beat up random.
people because of their demographic traits in the street. I do think that's very wrong and you shouldn't do that.
But I do think that repatriation of immigrants is a necessary thing that we should do as morally and ethically as possible.
All right.
Michael Jones says, let's make them Catholics.
Yeah.
Yeah, based.
Eric, and again for three U.S. dollars.
Thank you so much.
He says the food system in the United States is going the same way.
Taxpayers are paying farmers to produce nothing.
Inflation works in several ways.
Yeah, there's a lot of messed up stuff with substance.
and farming regulations and stuff that I don't even understand,
but I've heard that it really messes things up.
Farm for yourself.
My wife, we ate so much food out of the backyard this year.
It was amazing.
Nice.
Yeah, you should definitely do that,
but I can't wait for that to reverse back to paying farmers to make more,
and then, you know, the price is plummeting.
Can't wait for it.
American farmers.
Yes, American farmers.
That's the important distinction.
Irish Christ, I did not mean to impure.
Pune upon you. My inability to read and understand things is not an insult to your grammar.
You always write very well and precise. I know how you are. The fault is mine, sir, not yours.
Eric, and again for $15. Thank you, buddy. He says in 2020 during the COVID quote emergency,
cattle ranchers were being ordered to slaughter their herds. Why? Meat is a commodity, perhaps.
I was saying these things as a libertarian. Libertarians that I knew.
you were putting the flag up.
Jim Davidson was saying this.
We were ordered to stop commerce.
Well, that's, yeah, that's something that Stormy Waters talks about.
He said that we were in,
they knew that they were going to have to print so much money
to get out of a sovereign debt crisis that they had to stop commerce.
That was the reason for the lockdowns and everything.
And that's one of the reasons why commodities like chickens and herds were
so that they weren't there to more money,
and being used to pay for them.
There was a lot.
There was a lot about 2020 that people don't realize that, you know, that was pretty much
about money.
It was about the sovereign debt crisis and printing trillions to send overseas to bail banks
out again, just like we did in 2008.
Yeah.
And even though I don't think it was a primary reason, it did have a benefit of destroying
a lot of small businesses.
Yeah.
And I think that, yeah, I think that was on purpose too.
Yeah, I think it was on purpose, but I agree with you.
I don't think it was the main thing, but I do think that was also something that made them happy.
For three U.S. dollars, Eric and again, the only person that I have heard that said we were ordered to stop commerce since Jim Davidson said it in 2020, Stormy Waters.
Okay, yeah, back in there agreeing with you.
Go listen to Stormy.
I just released two hours and 15 minutes with him, and he has a very good working knowledge of like tariffs and how they would work and how we could run the, you know,
And it was a Twitter space.
I apologize Twitter spaces.
The audio is not always as good.
And it's hard for me to release those because I pride myself on putting good audio out there.
But the information is there and you will love it.
Well, I tell you what, Pete, I love having you here.
I know you have to go.
But in the couple minutes you have left,
why don't you tell everybody why they should come check you out and what you have to offer on your channel?
And I just shared your link and all the chat.
Well, I mean, my show is not.
about anything in particular. If I want to talk about, if I want to talk about World War II,
we're going to do 25 episodes on World War II. If I want to talk about, you know,
London State and Revolution, we're going to read the whole book and talk about it on the show.
If I just want to have a conversation with hunger, like I released last week, about, you know,
politics and culture in Lebanon, that's what I'm going to do. So I think the thing is, is that
I use it as a means of learning, getting people on who can teach me something.
And I think a lot of people get a lot out of it by being able to learn new things.
Thomas and I are doing a series now on the left Higalian Eric Hobbsbom that most people don't know about.
He's probably the dialectical antithesis of Ernst Nolte for the 20th century.
and people are like, I can't, I didn't even know that I would be interested in this.
So trying to do different things over there.
I do three substacks a week, substack videos.
My substack is petesubstack.com.
And of course, I cannot leave without talking about the old glory club doing amazing things.
We're going to have a stream tomorrow night starting a 730 Eastern,
just seeing what happens through the night, seeing if there's,
any meltdowns by
journalists, hopefully journalists
seek Canadian health care on air.
That would be beautiful.
Wouldn't that be amazing?
And, you know, we're going to have some
fun. And also the old glory club, as
he knows, because
she has been, and
news fist, they've been to
our inaugural
conference. And we have some great people.
I think at that conference, we probably had more
doctors and people in law school and lawyers per head per capita and probably any other
conference you'll ever go to.
Yeah, it was impressive.
The number of successful men and young men that were there.
It was very impressive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So check out the old glory club, the old glory club.com.
And if you are interested in joining a chapter near you, reach out.
if you're interested in starting a chapter, reach out.
No guarantees.
We gatekeep.
And that's something that most people fail to do.
I think it's a reason why our country is in the condition it's in.
We didn't gatekeep people coming in here.
And foreigners came in here and turned us into a foreign country.
Yep.
Amen.
Well, Pete, thank you for being here, brother.
I hope you guys have a wonderful time on the trip going to the thing that I won't name publicly.
And I hope that I...
I get to see you and your wonderful misses at the next meetup.
And I hope you have a very blessed holiday season and send my best to her as well.
Yep.
Thank you, NewsFist, and thank you three of 12.
Very nice to meet you.
Great chatting with you, take care.
Yeah, take care, brother.
We'll see you next time.
Yep.
All right.
Well, guys, that was the final dragon of the evening.
