The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete's Appearance on 'In Liberty and Health' w/ Kyle Matovcik

Episode Date: November 2, 2024

93 MinutesPG-13Kyle Matovcik of the 'In Liberty and Health' asked Pete to come on and talk about the coming election and the 'Woke Right.'Kyle's LinktreePete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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It's really been that long. Yeah. May 25th, 2020. Wow. Time's flying by way too fast, man. It's so funny. Somebody like, somebody was like, said on Twitter the other day,

You were like an ANCAP yesterday. And I'm like, I can give you episodes from like three and a half years ago where I'm like, yeah, I don't call myself an ANCAP anymore. Yeah, I think what I discovered you was early 2021 because I started the show October of 2021. And I've even changed my perspective on quite a few things. But I know for you, you've been very vocal about your changes. then I think one of the things I've nauseam said about you is that I respect you the most because you've always been open

about the things that you've changed your mind on and I think people being able to see that the assholes are never going to believe you or they're going to say you're a grifter, you're just kind of hopping on the latest thing but I think it's a genuine change and I think anybody that comes out, specifically when their financial benefit is at risk

I just have immense respect for that. Well, yeah, I mean, thanks. I lost a lot of listeners, but And I really haven't gained them all back, but what I found out was the listeners I have now are just so much more hardcore. I mean, so willing to get involved with the show. Can you have this person on? And it's like, I haven't even thought to have that person.

Can you talk about this subject? I didn't even thought to have this. So it's like, it's sort of like the no agenda guys say that they have producers. And sometimes it feels like I have producers where. It's like, I don't even have to come up with the idea for the show. I just have to figure out who to interview. And then a lot of times they'll be like, well, you want to interview this guy and here's his ad on Twitter and everything. Or I already spoke to him about it and everything.

So that's pretty nice. And then I think that one of the things that I've helped do and I'm seeing more people do is innovate readings, doing like whole readings of books over multiple episodes and commenting on them. And I think not only does it get me reading books that I haven't read in years, or there are a couple of the books where I read live on air I hadn't read before. But it also introduces old books that are long out of print, very hard to find, extremely expensive. And, you know, there's a reason a lot of those books, there's a reason why you can find, you know, 1984, an animal farm everywhere.

There's reasons why you can't find Race War in high school for under $500. or, you know, like an icebreaker by Victor Suvoroff for under, you know, for under $300. They like to say, I mean, now I go back and read 1984 and I'm like, oh, this is quaint. This is nice. I live through 2020, okay? It's like, this is hilarious. But, yeah, so, yeah, no, it's, it's nice to be reaching a whole bunch of new people. But, you know, how many people actually came over with me, you know, who were there in the Libertarian and Ancap days?

And as I progressed out of it, which took, you know, a good year, year and a half, taking the ride all the way with me and they're still with me. And they're like, you know, I remember I go all the way back to the man's days. You know, the mansurated it. And I'm like, yeah. I'm glad you took the ride with me. It lets me know, you know, when I know thousands of people took the ride with me that lets me know I wasn't crazy. Yeah. One thing that I've kind of laid out a little bit, the new thing is for the OPMC guys, which I have no personal problems with any of these people, but I saw they're putting together

dissident media. And it kind of seems like, hey, we're trying to cast this wide net again to capture in some of this new dissident right deal. And I know that you're kind of rubbing elbows with a lot of people in that realm, but I know that you've also kind of made it clear that you like don't necessarily identify with that. And I don't want to put words in your mouth. But like, it seems like a lot of people who were formerly libertarians are starting to move over into this space. And what I'm trying not to do is try to be cynical about it, but I also want to look at it objectively. And I don't want it to be something that's like, you know, I left the left, where generally people who say I left the left, never really left the left. And that's, and that's how you

get the woke right. Well, I, I'll tell you, I saw that there's a dissident media. I don't even really, I don't like the term dissident. It doesn't really mean anything. It could be anything. So if they want to call it that, I don't care. I mean, it's nice to see the Libertarian Party and the Libertarian Party chair, like sitting down with the presumptive presidential winner and, you know, making moves.

You know, for that, I have to give Angela a lot of credit because that's something I was saying to do three and a half years ago. Yeah, I mean, one, when I was leaving the Mises caucus, leaving the Mises. I'm like, well, you know, yeah, you have to, if you're going to get anything accomplished, you're going to have to do it through one of the two parties and the left is, and the Democrat Party is not going to have anything to do with you. So you might as well just start sidling up to the, you know,

to the Republican Party. And, you know, it takes time because, you know, Trump was out of the limelight at that time. Then, you know, he's back in the limelight. And it seems like they, you know, he's at least listening. And there's a lot of libertarian ideas that I still like. I find a hard time to believe any of them will work in a multicultural society with 350 million people. But at least they're, at least they're trying, you know, and one of the things that I'm happy about is, is that I know for a fact that a lot of the people who are not in power right now, but are in Trump's orbit, they listen to us over on our side of the right.

I mean, J.D. Vance follows on Twitter, like half of my mutuals. A billionaire like Mark Andreessen is retweeting, talking about reading Burnham. He's been talking about that for a few years now, reading J.D. James Burnham and it's like, and I know libertarians are like, you know, he was a neocon. I'm like, there are still things you know, there are things you can learn from people that you don't agree with 100%. I've read, I've read Marx on my show and I've read Lenin on my show and I've covered Stalin. And I'm covering, you know, the biggest left, left Hegelian in the 20th century right now on my show.

There are things that you can learn a lot from, that you can take from people that you don't agree 100% with. But they're a statist. Who cares? But no, you know, it's like now we're seeing people who we're seeing that the Libertarian Party is doing what it should have done all along. It should always have been an appendage of the Republican Party getting them to move towards, you know, how, whatever, you know, and it may even be things that I don't agree with anymore. but I can still appreciate using power and using leverage.

And even if you don't have leverage, just making friends. You know, it's like I've said, I don't want any of these people in charge. I want my friends in charge. I want my friends to rule. I want my friends to be in charge. I want a friend to be president. I want a friend to be mayor in my town. I want a friend to be sheriff.

Just go make friends with these people. There's no reason. Trump seems like one of the genuinely nicest people that I've, I mean, if you really watch him, I think he's a genuinely nice person. Don't make friends. He likes to, he, he listens to people. He's interested in people. Ready for huge savings?

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I wish Trump was, I wish Trump was 10% of what people on the left say he. I agree. I agree. A fascist, you know, but watching him like at that drive-thru thing. And these people come up and someone said, oh, I want to thank you for coming out here, you know, and talking to ordinary people like us. And the first thing out of his mouth, he doesn't even think about it. He goes, you're not ordinary. And I'm like, that's somebody who's listening to the words that are coming out of somebody's mouth

and repeating them back to him. That shows empathy. That shows like you care. If you're just listening to people's words all the time to waiting to critique them, which is basically what the libertarian, the whole libertarian ANCAP world is, is you're listening to people's words so that you can tear it. them apart and then give them a critique and correct them, well, that doesn't make friends. You want to make friends with people.

Some of the people who was hardest, the hardest things to do to change your mind was they had to know that I cared about them first. And I do. I genuinely do care about people who come to me and they come to me honestly. And they're like, look, I have a problem with something you said. Okay, let's talk about it. talk it out and everything. And I'm not going to apologize for anything I said. I will try to explain why I said it. But genuinely, if you ask anyone who, you know, I've gotten to know some people who are very, very successful and very, very wealthy, they'll tell you, I could not do this alone. I could not do

this alone. I had to have people who liked me, people who were willing to help, people who I had to be friendly with in order to get where I am. He goes, and, you know, somebody will say like, and maybe at first I didn't really want to kiss up to this person, but then I found out, wow, I really like this person. And now they're like, if something happens to me that I consider to be a success, that's the first person I call to tell. Not my family. It's this person I called to tell. And that person will be genuinely, is genuinely happy for me as one of my parents will be, you know, if their parents are still alive kind of thing. So I think that that's really important.

And I think a lot of people don't get that. Yeah, that's quite a bit. But yeah, I completely agree. I like to share good news with people. And I always love it when people feel like they can share good news with me because that means that like they understand that we have something good between us. Like I remember I message you and I can't believe that this is like a year and a half ago now when I was going to be an automotive instructor.

unfortunately that went the way that it did but you know just stuff like that and you're like man you know i'm happy for you shit like that you know means the world to me and to most other people they give a shit to know that hey somebody's out there listening and somebody gives a shit and it's not like it takes that much time just let's say hey you know hope you're doing well man you know just sending that kind of text or message to somebody like that um it's funny what i look at look at it is people reach out to me all the time and say this is what just happened to me i couldn't be happier. I just had a kid. I just bought a house. I just got this job. I just did this amazing thing. The fact that they're sharing that with me is remarkable to me. I'm a stranger to most of these people

and they want to share this moment with me. Why would I should I the way I look at it is if I could ever meet that person face to face and get we're going to be friends. We're going to be friends. We're going to exchange numbers and we'll probably be in contact a lot. And I mean, that's important. And, you know, the problem I had with a lot of libertarianism is, and not a lot of the libertarian leaders. I mean, I couldn't have done the kind of things I did if, you know, Tom Woods and Dave Smith and, you know, Mark Clare, all these people, Scott Horton, they were all so friendly with me. And, you know, by the way, I'm still friendly with all of them. Right.

Tom Woods invites me to his Christmas parties, okay? I get, I get, I get, we were texting today. I text Dave Smith all the time. Scott Horton and I were just talking the other day, texting back and forth about his new book and everything. And we had a couple laughs. Why? Because there are some things I've shared time with these people.

We've shared, you know, I was, when Dave's son was born and he was sick and everything, I was there. I wanted to be like, I'm praying for him. You know, this Tom, Tom knows he can do any. ask me for anything. Scott, Scott knows they can ask me for anything. I'm going to be there for him. And there's something that's way, in that sense, there's something that's way more important than politics, because when it comes down to it, if we really sat down and started comparing, we're probably like 20% away. Most people, I think, are 20% away in politics, unless you're

extremely to the left. And I don't even know what extremely to the right is. You go to church. Yeah, anymore. Yeah, well, there's something that you highlight right there that I really liked. And it's that, you know, I've heard you talk about the single live streams too. When it came to like voting, I remember you, you kind of went off and rightfully so about people who always say, oh, you get what you vote for. I could never stand that shit because it's like, I don't think people literally go to the ballot box and think, oh, I want some third world or to come up and punch me in the face.

That is nobody's interest. Nobody wants that. And then I think later on. Nobody wants hire. Nobody's voting for higher taxes. No one's voting for. You're getting these things because it's a managerial regime. The regime is going to do what it does, no matter who's in charge when I'm talking about

voters, the people, the elected officials. You have this system that works beneath the elected officials that doesn't move, hasn't moved since 1933, and that's what needs to be taken apart. So it's like when I, I'm looking for a politician. who recognizes that and is like, okay, well, here's my plan to try to take that apart. Because until that gets taken apart, you're not getting anything you want. You know, I'm not getting a right-wing, you know, Catholic, whatever, and that's not exactly what I want.

But, and no one's getting, no one's getting their trad cat, no one's getting their libertarianism, no one's getting, until that managerial regime gets taken apart. And really, the only couple people I've heard talk about that. managerial regime in any way and talk about these speeds dismantling are Vivek Vovic Ramoswani and J.D. Vance. So do I think that if Trump gets elected and J.D. Vance is his vice president that the managerial state's going to be destroyed? No. But I'm hoping that you know, you can start chipping away at it. I mean, I know Elon Musk wants to. Walter Littnick, who is part of the transition team to the head of Kenner Fitzgerald, he's talked about it too, and he's actually going on podcasts talking about

Bitcoin, talking about having a Bitcoin being an M1 reserve, you know, alongside Bold and Silver and oil and trying to get, stop it so that war is not an M1 reserve anymore. And he's talking about ways to make it so that he says, we need to have a military. He goes, but there's no reason that we need to be paying for things that are out of date. And he actually comes up with these incredible, like, formulas where you could actually pay for the military without actually paying for the military. And it's just, I mean, these are the kind of people that I'm, I'm interested in. And none of the people I just mentioned are far, I would consider to be far right. So I don't think Vivek, I think JD would probably be the closest person to meet politically. And then Walter Lutnik is

just a, you know, he's an investor kind of guy, I think, who is, you know, probably in the classical liberal camp, but probably more realizing the classical liberalism is a trap. Because if, if you, classical liberalism is where somehow where you get the woke right. Yeah, well, there were two things I want to mainly talk to you about. I'm glad you're kind of hitting on this. when I first heard the term woke right, I was so, the first thing came to my mind, oh, they have to be referring to the people who are rabid Zionists that anytime you say anything that even hints it, like Jewish people as a whole, they call you an anti-Semite and

say you should be silenced because, I mean, there's tons of governors and tons of Republicans that do shit like this all the time, but they weren't. And that was the strangest thing to me because I'm like, oh, this is like woke to a tea, right? you know, I mean, you literally have people saying, oh, Jewish kids feel uncomfortable on college campuses. So therefore, we need speech laws and safe spaces. That sounds pretty woke to me. So if you're saying woke, right, and that's who you're identifying, okay, I guess I agree. I don't know that I would use that term, but it makes sense at least. But then Constantine Kissin was the dude that coined the term. Why don't even know that guy's name? I don't know. Why do we know that guy's name? He's unimpressive. He's not,

He's not intelligent at all. His father was an oligarch in Russia in the 90s. I mean, one of the most evil. I mean, those people were evil. I mean, they were starving people to death. The average age of a Russian man dropped 12 years in the 1990s because of what those scumbags were fucking, you know, the seven or eight oligarchs like Kissin's dad,

how they were raping that country and sending all of its, resources and everything to another much smaller country in the Middle East. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favorite Liddle items all reduced to clear. From home essentials to seasonal must-habs, when the doors open, the deals go fast. Come see for yourself. The Liddle New Bridge Warehouse Sale, 28th to 30th of November.

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because I know that you've kind of dug into a lot of historical literature recently so I'm kind of curious like what your genesis of this whole situation is like when you look at it Well, okay, so it came out of the left didn't leave. I didn't leave the left to left me group. So as far as I know, James Lindsay was the first one to come up with it. God, what a scum. I'm so glad when libertarians were having him on his show and being like, oh my God, another leftist who is saying base things.

Why do we always have to try to kiss the ass of leftists who are saying base things? I say base things, oh, you're on the right, though. That means you're mean. But the left is he means well. He's just misguided. You remember that old thing? The communists were, they meant well. They were just misguided.

Those fascists over there, they just wanted to kill everybody. But it's all those people who are like, I didn't leave the left, the left me. And so it's kissing. Then you look at people like, James Lindsay, obviously, Dave Rubin, and all these guys who were leftists and who railed against the woke. The reason they started becoming friendly

to the right is because, or conservatism, which I don't even think there's a right wing in this country, because I think conservatism is left wing, essentially. It's classical liberal, classical liberalism is left wing. Sorry. I'm not going to explain any further. But they all came over here. And then you have other people who did the same thing, who realized that this whole woke phenomenon and started to rail against it, woke on the left, on college campuses, things like that. People like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Okay. So everyone who's being, everyone who's accusing everybody of being woke right is in that camp. But they call Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens woke right.

Why? Because they're the only ones in that camp who are speaking out against Israel. They're the only ones that are questioning Jewish power. So, and then it's this complete thing where you're accused your enemy of, accuse your enemy of what you're doing. So they're against, you know, oh, these people on campus who want to stifle free speech. And then you have somebody like a Jewish billionaire like Bill Ackman, who puts all this money into getting black people mostly fired from college campuses because they're not sufficiently shutting people down for free speech because they're talking about Israel.

It's like, oh, I need a safe space because words are violence. Oh, you need a safe space. You pour, you know. And so here comes Ben Shoe. Shapiro, you know, here comes Ben Shapiro around the corner to make fun of you for wanting a safe space. But then someone says from the river to the sea and you're like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. They want genocide. They want to kill it. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I think, you know, and Dave did a, Dave did a stream on this a couple weeks ago that was really good.

Glenn Greenwald did a 12-minute video on The Woke, right? I mean, just nailed it. I mean, he nailed it perfectly. it's all these people who are screaming woke right are the woke right because they're the ones who are i don't care what you call me if you can call me anything you want i don't want to i don't want to shut it down you can say you i want to kill half spanish polish hungarian guys um i think they should and i'll be like come and get me i don't i don't i'm not going to if i had power i wouldn't try to shut you down I'd be laughing at you. But these people don't know. The only power they have is basically get people canceled and things like that.

So when you see woke right being thrown at somebody, whoever the term woke right is getting thrown at is a critic of Israel. Whoever is saying, is accusing someone of being woke right, is pro-Israel as a Zionist, is a full-on Zionist, which Constantine Kissen is, which Ben Shapiro is, which Dave Rubin is, which I don't know that James Lindsay is like a hardcore Zionist, but he will not question, you know, he won't question Zionism at all. He said something and I, this was kind of the, I had lots of moments of just, I was always skeptical of him, but I remember him saying something to the degree of like the Palestinians will genocide Israel. I'm like, in what world are you living in where that's even remote possibility?

The Israelis have killed a thousand Palestinians in the last seven days. They've killed a thousand Palestinians in the last seven days. There's a hospital that they attacked, that the IDF attacked, and they shot the son of the director of the hospital right in front of them. They just executed them right in front of them. They're bombing Balback today in Lebanon. One of the classic, I mean, like, there are megalithic structures there that defy reason. And then they're going into Lebanon, and,

Lebanon, which is a 30% Christian country, and just destroying Beirut, Southern Bay route. I mean, I understand the difference. Southern Bay Roots mostly Shia, that's where most of their bombs are dropping. But still, I mean, these people are just monsters. I mean, how am I supposed to look at? They can drop, it was, I think Colonel McGregor said 80. two-ton bombs on five apartment buildings or six apartment buildings. I mean, that's insane, okay?

Yet, and we're not supposed to go, well, you know, there were tunnels under there, which there were. There were Hesbillian tunnels under there. But wouldn't it be really nice if you like made sure before you, like you weren't going to kill 1,900 people in one strike who they're just trying to live their lives. They're not hiding the people. They're not hiding Hezboa there.

They're just people trying to live their lives. If there was a serial killer under your fucking, under your house, and they bombed your fucking house because they needed to get that serial killer, you might have something to say like, hey, why don't you come knock on the door? All right. You know? And then when Iran launches, I think, 180 missiles at Israel. And how many civilians did they kill?

They killed one Palestinian. Yeah, there was one Palestinian that got, right? So they launched 100 missiles, I think 120 landed, no matter what you've heard, it was 120. I mean, I've seen the footage. It's just one after another. All military targets. All military or some kind of infrastructure target that would be used for the military. They didn't aim at civilians.

So let me just take those two. I have to choose between the people. who are dropping bombs on residential apartment buildings, and those who are letting you know the bombs are coming in the first place, and then hitting military targets, and they only kill one person that Israel doesn't care about, and Israel considers to be subhuman. Looking from the outside without knowing the players in that,

I would, well, here are the barbaric. Oh, no, but human shields, go fuck yourself with your human shields, bullshit. Where did you get that from? What newspaper? New York Times. Who owns it? The Salzberger family? What would you get that from?

Come on. Come on. People, there are tribes out there that act in their own interest. And let's remember what Thomas Massey told us. Everyone in Congress has an eight-pack babysitter, except them. Yep. Well, and one thing that I've always made this argument because it's so frustrating when people say, oh, well, Israel is the most, the IDF is the most moral army because they draw leaflets.

It's like, okay, well, if Pete, if I were to come to your house and tell you, hey, if you're not gone within three hours, I'm going to come here and blow your entire room to smithereens. Does that, does that make it okay? Like, and I understand you, people want to separate morality and war and peace time, but you can't fucking kill kids and you can't bomb hospitals with. civilians in it and take out maternity wards and every single functional hospital. 60% of the victims in Gaza are women and children. Yep.

And here's the thing, okay? They're not upset about that. They don't consider them to be, you know, it's like, well, we were trying to get somebody who's responsible for the death of a lot of people. And these people were in the way. We feel really bad about it. but it had to be done. You know, God have mercy on our soul.

No, that's not how they, it's, you, you're either a cheerleader for them or you're an anti-Semite, you're woke, right, you're, you're not even allowed to be neutral. We found that out after October 7th. After October 7th, you found out it was not, it, it wasn't enough to be anti-Semitic. You need to be, like, phylo-semitic. Semetic. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th

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In 1948, the wind rush ship started showing up with Jamaicans. And then it was just, and Europe had to become this, you know, sea of mud. basically to destroy them. And then you look at, you know, some of the biggest, like, people talk about Catholic charities in this country and then you like look at their board. And it's like, who are all these Catholics whose last names end with Steenberg and Witts? And then you look at Hebrew Immigranade Society, which even Chris Rufo, who's, you know, basically accusing everybody of being an antsy semi now if they're against Israel,

said in an article that he wrote recently that the Hebrew Immigranade Society was responsible for bringing all the Haitians into Charleroy, Pennsylvania. Well, it's Jewish, technically, Jewish family and children's services, which is a division of Hebrew Immigran Aid Society highest, which, our

national security advisor, Alejandro Mayorkas, is, or is he head of department of Homeland Security? He used to head of the Department of Homeland Security. He used to be the president of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. and you wonder why our borders are open and you wonder why

yeah there's always been something odd with me about the Republican Party being so fervently Zionist but all the Zionists Israelis and Jews are all very very pro open borders I mean you had even had Netanyahu saying yeah I think the rest of the world is going have to take on these Palestinians as we ethnically cleanse them out of Palestine Well, I mean, no one wants them. And there's a reason for that. The Palestinians are not, Palestinian leadership is, they're not good people historically.

I was talking with a friend of mine, Hunger. Well, put it this way. They're not good for your country. I was talking about my friend, my friend Hunger, who's 11, he has dual citizenship in Lebanon. and he goes to Lebanon all the time. He has family in Lebanon. I think he has a business in Lebanon. And he said that what really started this whole thing with Lebanon and Hezbollah and everything,

basically Hezbollah came into existence because Palestinians were ethnically cleansed out of Israel into Lebanon. And then they started causing a lot of shit. And I've heard the same thing about when they go into Egypt. They become very subversive. and which, you know, Sheldon Richmond thinks that the Palestinians are actually the real Jews, that they've been there for 2,000 years, and they converted to Islam over the time, which would explain a lot. But you find out that wherever they go, they cause problems.

And I'm not saying that, like, I like the Palestinians. I'm saying that they're fighting against what I consider me my enemy, Zionists, who control the banks, control Hollywood, control pornography, control, gave us feminism. I'm not saying this. Dennis Prager said this. Dennis Prager is the one who said that everyism except for Nazism

came from Jews and everything. I'm like, okay, then I'm going to believe you. I'm going to choose to believe you. Okay? Yeah. Was that a good thing? Is feminism a good thing for this country? Was the Civil Rights Act a good thing for this country? Gay rights, was that a good thing for this country?

Now, I'm one of these people who I don't, think we should be knocking on people, gay people's doors and like, you know, pulling them out and black bag in them and taking them and killing them. But go back in the closet. Yeah. Really? Go back in the closet. I mean, if you're, we can't have open degeneracy and we can't have, we can't have this. It's not good for the culture. I mean, ever since all of this happened, has the culture gotten better? Has government gotten better? Governments used it as a, a way to take more power over us.

And that's one thing that like a lot of libertarians can't figure out because they want to make everything about economics. Economics is just one of the tools they use. But really what they have to do is they have to set up a culture in which they can use that economics to start funneling money all over the place. And you have to create minorities and victim groups that we, we need money for them and, you know, they need our prayers and we really have to be nice to them and everything. You know, it's like, a couple years ago, I lost a Twitter account because I said, I pointed out that it was only gay men who were getting monkeypox.

And then monkeypox exited the news. The day after an article came out saying that dogs and children were getting monkey pox. okay what am I supposed to put together there where what points am I supposed to connect there and I'm sorry you can

you can have the greatest economics in the world and then and then a bunch of people come in and go well if you have good economics it makes people make good decisions and people have people get look what happens when someone wins the lottery

usually they go broke in like what two three years alcoholism drug use that's not what makes people happy that's not what changes people's um i forget what's the word the austrian economists use their time preference well i mean we know most people have a high time preference right but um but i forget what i'll remember i'll remember it probably as soon as we log off but but yeah i mean it's What you're looking at is, I mean, I can understand good economics, and I'd love to have good economics in this country, too. But good economics is not going to help if you have a, you're not going to fix the economics in this country and then all of a sudden people are going to get better. People are going to somehow stop being sinners or whatever, degenerates. They're not going to have poor impulses. They're not going to stop back. and degenerate ways. I mean, it could, there could be not enough money

for them to do it. But then again, if they don't have enough money to do, wouldn't crime go up? Wouldn't there be, wouldn't they seek to steal? I mean, and that's not me advocating

for giving people money. I mean, I'd rather just kill them, really, but, or, I mean, or put them on an island.

Empty the, empty the, um, Indian reservations and put them in there for something. that and build an electric fence around it. Do something.

We can't live like this anymore. I mean, people are, I love how people were screaming, oh, the crime rate was going down, the crime rate was going down. And then recently, it comes that the FBI was just absolutely hiding. And it was like three times higher than it actually was. It's like, come on. Come on, why is this happening?

It's not because we don't have Bitcoin. It's not because Bitcoin isn't the money of the land. Okay. Bitcoin doesn't fix people's, you know, doesn't fix people's inclinations. Yeah, I mean, you go to any major city across the U.S. right now. Pittsburgh, I'm lucky is still kind of a nice city. But I mean, I was in New York for a General Motors training thing. And I remember seeing people, nobody who looked like me.

I mean, like the people who were obviously like mechanics and salesmen mostly, you know, or average white guys. you obviously like some black and Mexicans filled in there too. But like when there were just hordes of immigrants standing in a New York hotel, it's like, this is kind of strange. And none of them speak English. So I was like, well, what the hell are you doing here? Immigration is the number one thing.

If you want prices to go down to port 20 million people. If you want prices to go down on housing, if you want prices to go down on food, they could always produce less to keep the prices high, something like that. that, but definitely housing. I mean, they would have to make more, they would have to immediately build more housing in order for housing not to, price, it's not to go down. You're also going to solve the homeless problem. I mean, one of the reasons you have a homeless problem in California is, is one, people can't afford to live out there, two, regulations stop or stopping people from building, from new building. And three, it's, I mean,

the weather, if you're going to be homeless somewhere, at least, damn, do it where you can look good. do it where you can get a good tan and the weather is nice and you look good. But immigration is the biggest thing. I mean, we just, you know, I, my family, my mom's family has been here since the early 1800s that fought, you know, people on that side who fought in the war, the horrible, you know, the worst war we ever got into. And, you know, I'm just, I mean, there's some people on my, my, my, my, dad's side of the family that I'd like to see go back.

Even though they're citizens, I like to see them go back. But, I mean, really, we can't just can't. We have too many people. They're not from a culture that prizes anything. My biggest problem is what libertarians and open borders has always been that, you know, I was an open borders libertarian at one time. I thought it was, you know, that's the only way because, you know, fuck the police and the police are the ones that have to keep,

would have to be, would have to patrol the borders and fuck the state because the state would be doing it. And if you're a libertarian and you're like hoping for a libertarian society, especially an ANCAP. I mean, I've had ANCAPS tell me on Twitter, like recently say, we're going to see AnCAPA stand in my lifetime. And I'm like,

yeah, do you fuck a mind? Are you literally retarded? Yeah, you're not going to be there, though. No to those people saying that are going to be there. You're literally retarded. I mean, go ask your, go ask your leaders if they think. if they ask Tom Woods,

ask Dave Smith, ask Scott Horton, if they think they're going to see, you're going to see anarcho capitalism in their lifetime, you know, on some mass scale. You know what I mean?

I see it on a small scale. You know, you have to, I become less and less of a Thomas Soul fan over time because I realize, it's not to realize he just wrote the same book over and over again for the most part, like in the last 20 years.

But, you know, he did say that there's no such thing as it's a perfect. There's only tradeoffs. Right. And that's what you're going to have to do. You're going to have to figure out, you're going to have to figure out tradeoffs. You're going to have to figure out what you're willing to, what you're willing to put up with. I mean, you even, you even have tradeoffs if you want to look at like a Hoppy and Covenant community. You're going to give up some kind of liberty that should be afforded to everyone according to, you know, libertarians, so that you can have the safety of community of like-minded people. And you're not all going to be 100% like-minded. But getting back to my biggest criticism of open borders is you're importing people who not only is you know and i'll tell people this and i'll give you the i'll give you the rebuttal you're good you're importing people that you're going to have to turn into libertarians that you're going now you're going to have to turn them

into libertarians they're not they're not inclined to libertarianism where they come from they maybe escape if they're escaping someplace of violent all they're looking for is state protection they're not looking to hear about private police okay so And then somebody, some, not even a midwit, this has to be someone with an 85 IQ, God bless them, will say, well, you know, there's people here that, you know, most of the people here aren't interested in libertarianism. I'm like, don't make my argument for me. It's like, well, exactly. Why would you want more? If you're saying it's okay for more to come, because there's people here who will never accept it or who you're going to have to, you're the one who's black pill. because you're telling me that you don't ever believe this is going to happen. It's never going to happen for you. All it is is an identity. It's a religion for you.

You have no religion. You have no identity. Maybe you have no family, no one you love. And it's the people in your group chat who you all believe in the same thing. And the reason you believe that, the reason you won't step outside of your box that you've built for yourself is because you're scared that you'll be kicked out of the group chat. Look, I've been kicked out of a lot of group chats.

It's liberating because those group chats become echo chambers after a while. And why would you want to just continually talk to people who are just going to confirm your biases? You want to be challenged. You know, the first time someone told me, you got to read the Machiavellians by James Burnham. I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to change my mind. Then you read it and you're like, oh, this is how powers work since the dawn of time.

And it's not how, and Hapa probably has a better idea of how it works than in the other libertarian. But it's always going to be this small group of people who are in charge because three people can, three people can organize better than 350 million. You know, so then you start looking at that and you're like, oh, so it's always this like elite group. They may not be elite morally. They may not be elite metaphysically, but they're the ones that are in charge. the ones who've taken over. Now, they may be shitty like the ones we have now, we have to get rid of, but that's why you have to raise up other elites. And actually, you know, when it comes to, like, Silicon Valley people like Mark Andresen and other people like that, it looks like there are,

there are another group of elites that are on the charge. And they're not 100% in my camp, but they're a hell of a lot better than these friggin' dick-chopping, tit-chopping monsters that are in charge right now. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favorite Liddle items all reduced to clear.

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lesson they'll become libertarians but what does libertarianism require it requires a lot of abstract thought when you're dealing with people who literally have an IQ of 65 to 85 let's be honest they can't entertain hypotheticals right that's the thing is when you're when your IQ is that low you can't understand hypotheticals and that's all like libertarianism is it's hypothetically if this thing was but they can't do that so what you're going to end up what you realize when you really start studying people. And I'm not saying people can't, their IQs can't be raised. I mean, you know, it's not always that England had the average IQ that had now was much lower. Well, over time, but under the right circumstances, but Hades has some bad circumstances for 220, 25 years of their own doing, mind you. But you're not

going to be able, what you realize is, is that if you want order, if you want the, if you want the world to be the way you wanted to, would that be libertarian, whatever it is, you're basically going to end up having to tell people what to believe and how to act. And that goes against the fundamental, you know, one of the fundamental keys of libertarian, which is the non-aggression principle. as a non-aggressed principle is it would be a sin to tell people that they need to believe in this. I remember I was interviewing a very popular libertarian. I'm not going to say his name because this could potentially make him.

I'm not insult. I don't want to insult somebody. But I mean, this is a long time ago. I said, well, we can't force people to be libertarians. We can't have a libertarian dictatorship. That would be, you know, that would be a contradiction. Well, people are, if 2020 taught us anything, the majority of people are waiting to be told what to do and what to believe. You got to get your people in charge and start telling people what to believe and what to do.

And if that is to don't hurt people and don't take their stuff, well, you're going to have to, you're going to have to tell people that. Then you have to tell people that's the way we do it from now on. And if you don't do it that way, there will be consequences. Isn't it funny how, like, they'll mention, like, you'll hear about the most libertarian places on the planet, like Singapore. You can walk in and start a business in a day. You can open a bank account in the airport on a stopover. That's how liberal it is there when it comes to banking regulations, economic regulations.

You spit gum on the sidewalk. came. Well, there's a reason why Singapore can have a multicultural society. It's a multicultural Asian society, and for people who don't know it, Asian groups do not like each other. There is a lot of tension between

different Asian groups, and they get along because the state will fuck you up if you step out of line. And it's still someplace that, you know, Libert turns all about. Lichtenstein is the same way. Lichtenstein,

is probably, you know, considering what Prince Alois and his dad, Hans, you know, what they believe, they're friends with Hans Herman Hoppa. They, you know, they understand Austrian theory. They understand. You still pay the price if you step out of line there. And you have to. And the state's going to do it. It's not going to be some private police force. And so that's the thing is you can't ever have a private police force because if private property is like your ultimate goal. It's like, don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. And you have somebody who has, you know, a piece of land and they're hurting somebody on that land. Well, somebody has to be able to make the decision that an exception is going to be made. And we're going to go in there

and we're going to stop. Right. And we're going to punish the person who's doing it. If you left at the non-aggression principle, then if that's your first principle, that would tell you that's wrong to do that. I did a podcast a couple weeks ago. called why I'm not an anarchist anymore. And honestly, I do think state, you know, it is justified for a state to use violence to stop somebody from committing an abortion. I mean, we just have a culture now that doesn't really believe in that. But like, you know, I think that's perfectly reasonable to say, no, you can't kill that child or in situations like, you know, drag queen story hour or where kids are being exposed to things that they shouldn't be. Why wouldn't

we shut those things down? I mean, those are the most vulnerable group of people amongst us. do we not want to protect our future? Well, I mean, what those things do is when you have people who can kill, kill their unborn children, people who can, you know, men can dress up as women and shake their dicks in front of it. And that's what ends up happening at these drag queens store, a lot of these dry queen story hours, not all of them, but still, it shouldn't be done.

It shouldn't be done. This is, it's, it goes against nature. anyone who argues that that's not against oh well you know it's like um you know there's you can go back and the talmud has 68 oh you want to bring that up huh all right um we're gonna have to talk about that if you want you can't have people doing this it causes chaos it causes people who instinctively know that there's only that there's a binary male and female it causes chaos and the and especially the managerial state. Like, you know, I'm sure Hapa, if anyone has read the democracy, the guy that fails, knows that a king doesn't want chaos in his kingdom.

It's beneficial for him, for business, for everything to have order. Chaos, when you have a managerial state, when there's really no one in charge and it's just this machine that's keeping on going no matter who gets elected, they thrive off chaos. because they're always, it's going to cause problems, and somebody's going to call them to step in. They're basically creating their own. It's like a drug dealer giving away the first hit for free. You're creating your own problems. And saying, well, just end the state, bro,

well, okay, great, philosophically sure. But how about we talk about reality and how to deal with it in reality right now? Well, dealing with it in reality would be mean. You're the state's best friend. That's what I've said about so many libertarians. When you hear them talk and they talk about how we need to be able to free to do this and the border needs to be open and everything, you're just growing the state. I can show you, you know, whatever you're advocating for, most of the time, what you're

advocating for is just growing the state, is making the state bigger. I mean, it's like, oh, well, you know, we could have. have endless immigration if we just get rid of, if we just get rid of handouts and everything. Okay, get rid of the handouts. It's like, okay, you can't, you can't even get rid of the

handouts and you're talking, you can't get rid of the entitlement and you're talking about getting rid of the state. It took a war to get rid of slavery. What do you think it's going to take to get rid of the state? Not only that, if the state did collapse tomorrow,

the overwhelming majority of people are going to be asking for another state. If you don't have something built up already, if you don't have control of their minds already, when it collapses, they're just going to go to what they know. And if they don't know what you know, if they're not desiring what you desire, they're just going to go back to what you're left out in the cold. I mean, the state is not going to collapse tomorrow

and everybody's going to be like, we should give that anarcho-capitalism thing and try it. They're going to be like, no, feed me. I need to be fed. Whoever, you know, who rules, whoever can feed people. That's who rules. Whoever can feed people or say that they can feed people

or give the illusion that they can feed people. If you're telling people, well, you know, everybody just wants to be free, you know, deep down inside, everyone's a libertarian. I mean, maybe until, a virus comes along, and then everyone's hiding in their house, and they're listening to their government,

and they're following, they're watching TV to find out if they can go to church. Okay? So, so you can solve that problem, you're a little libertarian. I mean, let me tell you something. If I got the kind of world I wanted,

it would look way more libertarian than this right now. it would be a lot more libertarian because it would be very narrow and you're going to need narrowness if you're going to have that kind of liberty you're going to need people who can self-rule

most people can't self-rule which is why I think Hoppa came down to the 10,000 lengthenstrands thing where local if you want to have your liberal I've been to towns My town is The town I live in is 2400 people

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A thousand chickens for every one person in this county. Probably 100 head of cattle for every... When people get together around here, politics is not the first thing they talk about. They talk about, you know, well, they're coming and to take chickens today, so we have to, you know,

we'll be shut down. The chicken house will be shutdown for a couple months and then we'll get a new influx in and everything. Are you doing meat birds this year? You're doing eggs? How are the cattle doing? When are they gone? That's the first thing. And then they'll probably at some point talk about national politics or something like that. We're completely apolitical around here. I mean, it's just when it comes to, we don't even know, we don't even know who the, most of us don't even really know who the mayor. I know who the mayor is. I know who the sheriff is. I know that's just because that's who I am. I want to know who these people are.

Most people don't care because you don't have to. No one's going to step at a line around here. Everyone knows where everyone lives. It's so funny. When I moved here, and I've been here, we've been here about a year and a half. I told somebody I was eating at a restaurant in town, and they're like, oh, where are you moving? And I told them, oh, I know that house. Yeah, that's the house that's right here.

And they know the address. Everyone knows everyone. that's a way that you can have a culture where it's very libertarian around here. I've been to towns in Ohio in southern Ohio where it was very, very libertarian, where it's like people didn't lock doors. They didn't know one's bed. You know, it was just basically, you know, you had to deal with life. Well, that's what happens when you break things down into small homogenous groups.

When you have, you don't have different, even ethnic groups vying for, you know, vying for supremacy over another in politics and whatever. It's funny to me when they, when like libertarians would be like, take Sweden. You know, Sweden was completely free, one of the most free market countries ever, up until, certain point when they decided that they they were going to start giving away and they were going to become basically a welfare state and they were have a big welfare state and everything like that but up until that point it was great i'm like what else about so tell me about sweden's demographics up until that point was everyone Swedish why has why does iceland have like one murder a year

and it's like usually a tourist who does it why did iceland why did a cop in iceland somebody went crazy, pulled out a shot then, cop showed up, had to kill him. Why did the cop apologize, profusor to the family, go to the funeral and then retire? Why was he talking about that? Because it's an island of 300,000 people who they have a dating app where you put your name in there

and they figure out how related you are to each other. These are people who don't kill each other. They're not looking to cheat. Sure, you're going to get some. some cheating done. That's just family. I mean, it's just, yeah, but it's not like friggin Camden, New Jersey. It's not like Cleveland, Ohio. It's not like, you know, south side of Chicago. It's not like, you know, Hunts Point in the Bronx. Well, why? Because it's a bunch of people who not act, and they're all related to each other. And not all people are the same, because you can go into

some neighborhoods in this country that are all one demographic, and, you're all one, and, you're And they're killing each other. So that plays into it too, but that's mean to talk about. Or it's socioeconomic factors, which is the main go-to for most libertarians because, you know, that's what you have. And I want to shit on libertarians. I mean, I like looking at what Angela's doing with the LP and talking to Trump and having dinner with Trump.

And, hey, that's fucking amazing. You know, you have to be able to talk to power and you have to be able to, um, willing to bend. and willing to go, what are the most important values I have? I mean, are all these political values I have that people are like, that's one thing, that's another thing that a lot of people choose libertarianism for, because they have no religion,

and then they basically, libertarianism gives them some sense of, like, they can, like, quote morality now. Oh, you're immoral because you want to take stuff from people. Okay, you're thou shalt not steal. what's that based upon? What? Oh, well, you know, I just say it.

Okay, bang. I'm taking everything now. Oh, well, it's based upon, you know, the God of the Bible, and he said that shall not steal. So I don't think we should steal. Okay, well, tell me more. If you're just going to, I mean, if you're just going to be like, well, you know,

it's wrong to hurt people and take their stuff. Well, why? Why? Well, because. people, no, why? You don't have to give me something outside of reason. You know, I mean, then you just become an objectivist and you're a nine randite. You're just, you know, screaming about a war, screaming about one world government and the police are running around and forcing reason.

Which is what those limits six talk about. Yeah. And they're always rabid sign. It's just, it always cracks me up how that, uh, every single. time every single time. Yeah. So one thing I wanted to head on with you as well was when people say they. So right now, we've kind of danced around elite theory here, but I think to your point, 2020 really showed you that people are looking for elites, right? And much to another point that you were making is that basically if the state were to collapse tomorrow, people are going to, you know, basically look to elites to see what we're going to do next. I've heard you and a lot of other

people kind of, you know, in the dissident right space, if you will, the loose hodgepodge of people who are in there talk about the PayPal mafia. And there's people that I like and people that I'm skeptical of and people that I'm less skeptical of. But when it comes to the whole, when it comes to the whole Trump situation, and I think you and I probably agree on this, but I do want to get your expanded thoughts on this. You know, we hear a lot about the city of London, right? There's obviously the Israeli lobby and then we have the PayPal Mafia. To me, when I look at all this stuff, the guys who like the PayPal Mafia always go all in on, oh, well, these guys are going to be steering the next Trump administration because look,

J.D. Vance is in there. And I think J.B. Vance is actually legitimately impressive. But then, you know, obviously there's a lot of people who just go straight to, oh, the Jews control everything, right? And they're 100% in on that. I don't say I lean, I don't, I'm not 100% in that camp, but I lean towards that because we have a precedent of. Trump being very pro-Israel. And then Mario Madelson kind of following them around and donating ass loads of money to doers campaign. Not that nobody else is donating, but she seems to be a constant figure.

And once again, we have record of this. And then the city of London, that's the one of the most ignorant on. But once again, we hear that the city in London is a lot of what drives like a lot of global monetary policy. So what are your thoughts amongst that? And not just like the Trump camp, but overall. Like who's pulling the strings when people say they? I mean, I think it's a fight.

I think he's taken money from a lot of people. I think he's taken money from Silicon Valley types. I think he's taken money from Edelson, from Ackman. The thing is, is that it's hard to tell. You know, I'm one of those people who think that things can only get better if the regime in charge is out of power. Sure. But that doesn't mean that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are out of the White House. That means that the executive branch government has 2.8 million employees.

I don't care what it does to the economy. About 2.6 million of them need to go. Need to get it down to about 200,000. If the military is included in there, then it would be like, I would say, I would say, 50,000 plus the military, plus the military. And you got to get rid a lot of those military people because, I mean, they try to trans the whole fucking military.

It was like somebody asked me, I think it was Tim Kelly said, so Trump said that he liked, he wish he had generals like Adolf Hitler did. And I said, oh, you mean he wish he didn't have trans? He wish he had generals that weren't trans. Or generals. generals like Millie who talks about his white privilege.

You know, so. And then Tim asked me another question that was, which is a good question. It's a good question. And it's why I'm, you know, I want to see Trump as president just because there's possibilities that can happen. I don't think anything is certain.

Tim asked me the question. He said, can you do elections matter when you have an occupied government. So, you know, I'm hoping that it's more the Elon Musk crowd, you know, the Mark Andresen crowd that is going to be influencing. I still don't think Trump likes war.

JD Vance clearly said, I think it was on the Tim Dillon show. He doesn't want to see, he doesn't want, you know, he doesn't want to see war. He said our interests are not in war with Iran, and I share that instantly because it's very important for someone like him in his position to say that. Right. So I don't think that Trump likes war. I don't think that he everybody's like, well, Marianne Mabelson's giving him all this money. So her husband gave him all the money in 2016 and he didn't go to war for Israel.

So he bombed Syria, but it was one of those. one of those, we need to save face kind of bombings where he just bomb like empty, um, empty runways and stuff like that. And then after they killed Soleimani, which is probably his biggest, his biggest, to me,

his two biggest mistakes in the first, had to do with Iran was killing Soleimani, which I think he did at the behest of somebody inside the Iranian government, who was just basically jealous for one of Soleimani out of the way. and getting out of the JCPOA, the Iran deal. But I still think that he doesn't like war because he's a businessman. And business, no matter what, yeah,

there is a small group of business people in this country that love war. Most people don't like war. Bankers, people think bankers, why would a banker like war? They're probably lending money to people on both sides of the war, which means that they're not going to get paid back from one of them.

Yeah. You know, that doesn't make any sense. You're not going to make enough money. You're not going to make enough profit off of lending to one if you know you're not going to get paid from the other one. So that doesn't make any sense to me. You know, people were always like, oh, well, both sides of World War II were financed by this one person

and everything like that. It's like, well, someone didn't get paid. or if they or if they did get paid I mean it was way down the line and you know bankers went one instant gratification for the most part I just don't see I don't see Trump wanting to get us into wars

unless we absolutely have to it's just I'm looking at his history and as far as like the people who are influencing them now I'm hoping and it looks more than anything, at least from the outside, that Elon Musk is the one who's probably influencing them the most.

And if Elon Musk is influencing the most, he wants to create that Department of Government Efficiency, Doge, and start cutting costs and it's going to reduce the size of government. it. My ultimate goal is that somebody like Vivek, who has clearly said on like Sean Ryan's podcast, that the administrative state has to be dismantled, hoping he's going to have some kind of say in it. All you can do is hope,

because you just don't know. You don't know what's going to happen. I mean, he, they're going to probably try and just keep trying to kill him. I mean, I don't even know. I'm of the opinion, and I'm not making predictions, but I honestly think that, like, next Tuesday by midnight, we're going to know he won.

I don't think anybody, I think you have this very small segment of the population that's completely anti-Trump. They'll vote for anyone who isn't Donald Trump. I think for the most part, I think people are going to vote for him. And I don't even know. I don't think cheating is going to work.

I don't think cheating will happen in Pennsylvania because Josh Shapiro wants to run for president in four years. Right. Camala, then she's going to be, he won't be able to run in 2028. Same thing with the witch Gretchen Whitmer up in Michigan. I think cheating is going to happen in Arizona

and Arizona will go blue. But I think that Florida is going to be red. Something that I saw said that if Trump wins Pennsylvania, Kamala has a 4% chance. of winning. So I think it's going to be over that night. I think we're going to be

I'm doing a live stream with the old glory club. We're going to have people in and out all night and everything. I think we're going to be over. We'll be over by midnight. I think it'll be called by midnight. Even with, I think it's going to be so out of balance that the mail-in ballots won't even matter anything. And then no one's allowed the Supreme Court just, or the Fifth Circuit just passed that

law which takes, which is national, did no ballot. it's after election day are going to be counted. So nothing after the close of polls is going to be counted. I think, I don't think that they're going to be able to cheat this time. You don't rob the same bank twice in a row. You wait a little bit. So I think there are, I think Jeff Bezos with some of the things he's done at the Washington Post

in the last couple weeks has already resigned himself to the fact that Trump is going to win. I think you can see a lot of people who believe that Trump is going to win. Kamala has gone from opportunity economy to everyone's a fascist but me. And I mean, she's basically had a meltdown ever since that Brett Baer interview. I mean, she has looked like she acts like a monster. And there may be some people out there who want her to be that way and want to see, are okay with that. But even Trump, when you look at Trump,

I mean, he's not nearly from like 2016 when he had a lot, he seemed a lot more on edge and a lot meaner, like he was, it seems like he's having a good, it seems like ever since Butler. He's like calm down.

He's, it seems like he's having fun. And I think that comes off. And I think the more fun he has, the more they call him a fascist, which is just, I mean, look man i wish he was i i really wish he was because i said in my subsect this morning this government is so criminal they've done so many criminal things like this thing that just came out that james combe had like put honey pots into the trump campaign in 2016 even before the

whole crossfire hurricane official thing started he had had off the books people in their trying to inform and also insert into the campaign things. And you have to take somebody from government who's done really, really awful shit, someone from academia and someone from, like, the press, and, like, put them on trial and, you know, people who've done, people who you know of committed crimes have, like, very public trials and then put them in jail. people need to know that they can't do this anymore

that they can't just stand there and over and over again say that someone is a you know accused someone of being a Russian asset and you know while they're taking money from who knows whatever interest group to do this and

you know there's unless he does that unless he really unless they have the whatever this team that's going to be informing him unless they are willing to really punish their enemies and do things that have never been done before, like getting rid of entire departments. I mean, Curtis Yarvin said a few years ago, I mean, he's been saying this for years.

The State Department doesn't even need to exist. It's the president and three of his advisors on Zoom. you don't need that you turn that building into a museum or something and but is it going to happen that's a question

I want it to but I'm not Pollyanna I'm not I'm not nothing I'm not one of the nothing ever happens bros but I'm definitely one of the ones who's like we're definitely not going to get

100% of what we want and we should be damn happy if we get 30% of what we want because they've been designing this government the way it operates since FDR died. FDR had the power of a king. He could do whatever he wanted. I mean, when you look at how many executive orders he wrote, it's like four times more than every other president,

maybe three. He was a king. And when he died, he did not leave his power to Harry Truman. He did not pass his power down. That power went down into the departments. That's how we have the, some people call it the deep state. I like the managerial state makes more sense to me because it's just rule by managers. And all they're doing is they're managing to keep their jobs and keep this thing going

so that they can do whatever they want. And it doesn't matter if a D gets elected or a Republican, you know, there's the old joke in Washington, D.C. goes to a Georgetown bar. And say, hey, who are you voting for? And the person, they'll see you like, there was that, the Cheney biopic they did a few years ago,

where I think, I think, what's his name? Christian Bale gained like 150 pounds to play Cheney or something like that. Oh, yeah, I remember. There's a beginning of that when he meets Don Rumsfeld. And they're talking and they're like,

they're like, okay, we're going to do this. Okay, what are we, a Democrat or Republican? And he just looks at him and laughs. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So the administrative state, it doesn't. To guys like that who powers all that matters. I mean, look, Victoria Newland served in the Bush White House and the Biden White House.

It doesn't matter. She's responsible for the. She's responsible for the Ukraine war, almost single-handedly, responsible for the Ukraine war. I mean, oh, we're going to get our, we're going to have a coup, we're going to overthrow the elected president, put our own puppets in there, and then we're going to have them start killing Russians in the Donbass to provoke Putin to. Putin's biggest mistake was he didn't invade earlier. He should have invaded when Obama was in office. I mean, that's his biggest mistake. Anyone who tells me that if Donald Trump was in office, he would have invaded is retarded.

We know that if Donald Trump would not have had the election taken from him in certain counties, they fix certain counties all around the country. That wouldn't have happened. And he says October 7th wouldn't have happened. I tend to believe that. I tend to believe October 7th might not have happened if he was president. but because think about if you're

a leader think about if you're a leader think about if you're somebody who like a head of Hamas or something like that or think about if you're Biden or think about if you're you're Putin and your people are being killed

and you're like who's the president over there oh guy's shitting his pants okay sure let's do this Yeah, why not? I just, yeah, to bring this all the way back around, I don't know. I don't know what to expect.

We could get the most pro, pro, you know, Israel for years. I have a tendency to believe. I've said about Donald Trump is, I don't think Donald Trump's a Zionist. I think he loves Jewish people. He's been around Jewish people his whole life. I think he likes Jewish people. I think he wants to please people. I actually think his,

and there's no reason an American president should have anything to do with moving the embassy from one place to another. I think he did that to please his to please a couple of friends. I don't think he did that because he's a Zionist. And that makes a big difference.

There's a big difference between somebody being like, eh, you know, I've been to Israel a few times and I like it and I like the people. And somebody being a rabid Zionist who is like, yeah, I don't care if they kill everybody in Gaza, women and children. I don't care because that's what you have to be a Zionist. You have to be a Jewish supremacist. I don't think he's a Jewish, I don't think he's a supremacist for anything. Will he get us into a war for Israel?

I highly doubt it. Nothing's off the table. Nothing's off the table when, you know, it's going to be who his closest advisors are. His biggest problem last time was he was. He hired people who weren't going to be loyal to him, weren't even going to be loyal to him, but loyal to his vision of what he wanted it to do. I think he's doing a little better this time. So he's got, you know, some outside the, some elites that are looking to supplant the

current elites that are in charge. You know, Pareto talks about a circulation of elites and every once in a while you have to have a circulation of elites or else everything just. you know, elites just become deranged and decadent and you get what we have, what we have now. Right. Well, maybe a good place to wrap it then. Do you think this supporting Trump and Vance right now is a down payment on kind of like a more Vance, Peter Thiel-esque kind of future for the Republican Party? Maybe. Maybe.

You know, one of the, you know, a lot of people have reasons for not liking Peter Thiel and I understand all of them. One thing that I do know about Silicon Valley people is they cherish competence, which is why, you know, I think someone like Vivek or JD Vance can look at the administrative state and say it has to go. Because you can't have competence. You can't have competent governance if you have people who have no skin in the game. Let's face it, people in the administrative state, they don't have any skin in the game. But I think they like competence. I've heard one person that I've really been following very closely is Mark Endreson and watching him talk about how, you know, we need a strong military for nothing else just to be as deterrent for other people.

I mean, we have a very weak military right now. We don't have enough foot soldiers to, if you're just looking at our enlisted class of soldiers, like just say the army, they would have lasted two and a half months in Ukraine, fighting as Ukraine did. Because there's less than 30,000. Leah Enfield and I did,

went over an Army War college paper on my show. It talked about that. So the military needs to be built. back up because the world we live in, you need a strong military. People will, people will mess with all of your interests. We don't need to have bases in 180 countries or however many countries we have. Hopefully somebody will look at that and go, yeah, we need to draw that back. But the reason we have those bases, especially the basis in Europe, is because of World War II and, you know, who's occupying us who's been occupying us since World War II.

So, City of London, the city of London is, Rothschilds, people like that. They control international banking. They used to control a lot in the United States, up until Jerome Powell went to war with them, started going to war with them a couple of years ago.

And we got off of LIBOR, which is London, interbank exchange rate and that was that allowed like london to if you took out a credit card in oklahoma and oklahoma bank london was dictating what the the interest rate was on that and we got out of that and now it's run through so far in chicago and we've seen the euro weaken to the point where the euro is on life support right now. That's just because Jerome Powell,

the first Gentile Fed president in decades upon decades and I think a seventh generation Virginian has decided to go to war with the Rothschilds and their faction

over there. While you have one of their faction as the head of the treasury here, Janet Yellen, which is not an easy thing to do. Or you have one of the occupying people controlling treasury. So I think the city of London is scrambling. They're trying to figure out a way.

I mean, they, I guess they maybe called in some favors from Malay and Argentina, who it turns out is one of them. And he sent them gold. And I think pretty much the reason consensus from some people I know. know who are in the know, say he sent them gold so that they'd have more to lend against. They can use it as a backing to lend with because they need to be able to lend money in order to make money because that's what the Rothschilds do. And yeah, so them, world economic forum is, you know, I know you didn't even bring them up.

World Economic Forum, from everything I understand, talking to my friend Stormy Waters is just basically a sort of a sideshow. It floats things out there to see how people react. I'm not really too worried about the World Economic Forum anymore. Once you really start understanding where power and wealth comes from, you realize it's not from them. They still have a lot. They still have a lot of say, and there's still some people there who hold some power,

but still. Maybe this comparison is or is an app, but would you almost kind of say like the World Economic Forum is almost like a think tank for some of the leaders in a way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a place, you know, it's a place. I mean, I know people, I've talked to people who've spoken at the World Economic Forum. And they say, well, you kind of have to. If you're, if you're getting your name out there and you're in business, you're a VC or something like that, it's an easy way to get your name out there and to, you don't even have to agree with them. And apparently they're pretty good about that. I mean, they've had a lot of people go there and

speak and, like, shit on them right to their face, you know? There's an old Putin's speech from 2021 that's really good where he's like, he almost, I mean, he almost sounds like an Austrian in the, in the, because he's so he's so like, I don't like you people at all.

Because he sees them as the people who would be pulling the strings on a or funding a Victoria Newland. So, but the, um, you know, there's a lot. There's so much you could talk about NATO.

NATO doesn't even exist anymore. I mean, NATO is just basically an excuse for Jewish power to do what it does. You don't see them doing anything. NATO doesn't do anything that isn't benefiting a small country in the Middle East. Yeah, there's a lot out there. And one four-year presidency isn't going to fix at all. So while I hope that, you know, there's a lot.

a wall somewhere that'll be knocked down that'll open up some doors, you know, that'll allow us to walk past that wall, wall that was up to be able to get another couple things done or be able to build something for the future. If it would be a business, would there be something parallel or something like that? Hopefully that's what the next four years can be in. The next four years can be worse. Who knows? We don't know. That's the terrible thing about electoral politics, especially as Tim Kelly asked, you know, Tim Kelly said, you know, this is really even matter when you have an occupied government. So yeah, it's hard to say. Yeah, I've, uh, I've tried to

refrain for making too many predictions because, uh, honestly, all mine from 2022, 2021 have been proven absolutely wrong. I think I've been wrong about almost every single thing about this election. So like, all right, you know what? I don't know shit. And that's okay. I'm not shit. That's okay. I got to take the victory lap. I called JD. I called JD Vance back in February. So I'm taking the victory lap.

Yeah, no, you, you kind of deserve it because I was rooting for Nikki Haley, not rooting, but I thought that was going to be it because there were a lot of people kind of in that orbit, floating that out there. And, you know, even his,

what was it, his daughter-in-law, Laura was saying that might be it. You're robotting right now. Did it break up? There you go. Okay. Yeah, there were just some roboting.

Oh, my bad. But Laura Trump had put out, she was asked on the news if Nikki Haley could be vice president. And she had said that, oh, well, you never know with him. And there were some other people that were kind of handing at that. But, you know, I think J.D. Vance was probably the best of all options, the best of all people that he could have picked. Because when I heard Marco Ruby, I'm like, oh, please God, no. But he went for J.D. Vanson. I think anybody that doesn't look at that and say he was the best option, who else were you expecting?

Yeah, I don't know. I think they wanted the homosexual Tim. Some people wanted the homosexual Tim Scott in there. Oh, no, wait a minute. He just got married. Poor girl. Oh, I forgot all about that. You know, some people wanted Ted Cruz, not Ted Rupert, Marco Rubio. Yeah. It's like, oh, so bad. So bad. You know, some people said, you know, I know, I think Dave, I think Dave Smith and Robbie, Robbie Bernstein wanted. Vivek Ramoswani. But, you know, we got who we got and we can just

we can be glad it's not Nikki Haley or Marco Rubio or somebody that you know what you're getting. I'd rather have a wild card at this point than you know exactly what to expect about the next four years. I want to be surprised or not surprised at all. And just be like,

oh, same old, same old. Nothing ever changes. I'll become, maybe in the next four years, I'll become like the ultimate, nothing ever changes, bro. But that's black, that's blackpilling.

So, and I'm not blackpilled because you can say what you want about politics, but really in your personal life, as long as you keep moving forward and you keep improving and you, you know, keep moving,

don't stay stagnant. The white pills flow. As long as you have, personal white, white pills coming in. Really, that's all that matters. Politics is always going to have a black pill for you. So, you know, try to keep the white pills coming in as best you can on your own, what you can do.

Dude, I completely agree. Yeah, I think it's a beautiful place to wrap it. Pete, I'd plug your stuff, man. Peking, yano show, petesubstack.com, and the Old Glory Club, we will be doing. Check out our channel on YouTube. It's just type in Old Glory Club. And we will be doing the ultimate election night coverage.

We've already got dark enlightenment coming in. Matt Erickson's going to be there. Stormy Waters is going to be there. We're going to have a host of people. And then our own people, our own people are great too. So, yeah, it's going to be fun. But the old Glory Club, we started two years ago, we've got chapters everywhere

popping up they have to be official chapters there are 501c10s which are fraternities and it's just getting people to come together we have a great president we still have a presence on the ground in North Carolina

helping with the recovery there I know that you you know our president Red Hawk he speaks Red Hawk speaks very well of you he always mentions you and And yeah, yeah. So Old Glory Club, that's what I'm most hopeful for for the future is finding young people who are of elite status and doing whatever we can to put them into positions where they can make a change in the world.

Absolutely. Well, I say it all the time that the Old Glory Club is my favorite right wing organization. And on top of that, when it said there was that thing from AF Post saying that the majority of like young. younger Republican voters, support an arms embargo on Israel. I'm like, I'm giving old glory club credit for this. I don't care what it is. You guys get the credit for it. So yeah, hopefully everybody goes and checks that out.

I'll be turning 30 the day that we know, well, hopefully know the election results. So, um, oh, congrats, man. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. You made it. Yeah. Three decades, man.

It went by fucking quick. I know that much. But all right, yeah, thank you. Everybody so much for listening. Pete, thank you so much for hanging out, man. Of course. Stick around for a few minutes and we'll close her out there.