The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete's Appearance on Our Interesting Times w/ Tim Kelly

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

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Of course Pete is the host of the Pete Kionnet show. Pete, how you doing? I'm doing well, Tim. How are you? Very well, thank you. Well, here we are. Late summer. I think the last time we talked, I was on a show with you back in late May, early June, I think. And we were looking forward to the summer, summer kicking off. And, well, a lot has happened since then. Trump survived an assassination attempt. Joe Biden was purged. There was a coup within the Democratic Party.

and Kamala Harris, his vice president, was installed as the standard bearer for the Democratic Party, despite never getting a single delegate or claiming any votes. But nevertheless, she is now the standard bearer of the Democratic Party. I think she's being, I guess the coronation is tomorrow night, right? Am I right about that? Yeah, yeah, we're doing this Wednesday, yep, Thursday night, yep. And tonight, Governor Walls is speaking, the Elmer Fudd.

of the Democratic Party. He's just a silly white guy, right? A boring silly white guy from Midwest, right? The gay horse see drinker? I don't know. You know, at least we used horse paste. Yeah, yeah. And injected bleach.

I don't know what he's inject. I don't know what's been injected into him. I don't want to guess. He's just a typical Midwestern guy. You know, he likes to hunt. You know, he's a foxy guy who wants to cut off the penises of students. And he sponsors. gay gay straight alliances in high school who's a coach no reason to be

suspicion no reason for suspicion there uh but he's very typical of sort of the self-loathing pathological uh white guy today did you see that thing where they where they were talking about tacos with camel harris they were a video yeah it's uh it was i was kind of shocked but not really that they were doing the whole white people don't season their food yeah there's So apparently Italians and it's like I wasn't didn't call didn't like the whole idea of imperialisms or colonization start because of the spice trade. I'm just wondering. Yeah. Yeah.

That sounds right to me. If I look over it's what Christopher Columbus was charting an alternative route if I got that right, right? He was gone someplace where they have some pretty spicy spices. But nevertheless, there is the boring wacky Europeans. have nothing to offer. They're just boring, right? Culturally, technologically, philosophically, artistically, I mean, Western music is terrible. Western architecture is, you know, primitive.

Look at sciences and technology. Just white guys have nothing to offer the world, don't they? Well, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much what the message of this has been picking walls. I mean, this is a guy who, you know, normally when you see someone give a speech, make a good point. And then the speech is over and their wife is there. They go over. They kiss their wife.

No, he high fives his wife. Like double high fives his wife. That seems really odd. Then he talks about how, you know, if it wasn't for IVF, they wouldn't have kids. And yeah, this is, this definitely seems like every, every midwestern, upper midwestern, you know, white man that I can think of that I've ever met. I mean, what's funny is, I do know, like, a lot

of people from Minnesota, a lot of men from Minnesota. None are like this. None are like this guy. And, I mean, even, I know people from the places he lived in, he lives in. And they're men. they act like men they talk like men I mean this is a guy who his whole political stance

every political stance he has is that of the typical progressive woman every one of them every single one of them is all regime and where does he get this from I mean I have to assume that this is all from his wife

and then there's talk of this mentor in politics who I saw a picture of this woman. And the first question you want to ask is, okay, is this actually a woman? And yeah, it just seems that he is, he's a skin suit of a white man that they picked out to act like a progressive woman.

Did you see the video where they're playing it like it's a TV show? Like they're filming it. And obviously they got the camera lighting. And you're the fourth wall and they're pretending like you're having a conversation about tacos. How is that relevant to a political campaign, you know, to selecting our president and vice president? But it's almost like they've trying to mimic a sitcom from the 90s about nothing and spin it into a campaign theme or something. It's an oddest thing. Just like this idea, remember the phone call where she asked him to be her, asked him to be a running mate.

And they're staging as if that's the phone call. and the camera's going back and forth and it's not reality. And the campaigns have always been kind of BS and image and control and polling and finding slogans and all that, but there's an element of the unreal here

that is beyond anything that I can remember in past campaigns. Well, the best that I can get from the Harris Wall's campaign is the fact that when you have a proxy war going on in Ukraine, when you're basically funding genocide in Israel, you have runaway inflation at home, you have record mental illness at home, half of the children in the country have some kind of

chronic illness that issues don't matter anymore, baby. This is all about what recipe and, you know, whether how much spice he puts in his tacos. I mean, why do, why would issues even matter anymore? This is, we're post, we're post issues here. Those issues,

no, that's just for, you know, for 435 people to vote on. No, we're, you know, we need to,

we need to worry about what, what's going on with people's tacos. It's even on the cover of Time magazine, uh, they feature Kamala Harris, this, uh,

portrait of her. And it's written by, Charlotte Alter, the daughter of Jonathan Alter, surprise, surprise. So nepotism there, ethnic nepotism. The title of the piece is her moment. And we're supposed to be selecting the chief executive

of the federal government, the president of the United States, but it's all about her. It's like, so we get this, you know, person of color, a woman running for president, and it's about her. And like, no, isn't it about, like, Ukraine, about the economy, about what's going on in Palestine, what's the position of the United States? Should NATO continue to exist? Can we avoid World War III? Where our government conspired below more pipelines and caused more scarcity? No, it's her moment. It's this idea of electing this Indian, black, whatever, mystery mixed woman who grew up in Canada and Europe. And now she's going to pretend to be a, a, you know, a populist figure. Did you see that the,

Senator Schumer's introduction a few weeks ago when she, the coup was orchestrated? Oh, no, I didn't. I didn't see it. I can just imagine. He's,

he's claiming that the, the grassroots have spoken. She's been awarded the delegates. Now it's time to support Kamala Harris, and he had claps and no one knows claps. And it's hilarious. It's almost like he's trolling her, but I think he tended to be some sort of expression of his enthusiasm.

But it's the complete opposite of what occurred. And I think that that's what should make us hopeful is the fact that we can't really tell what's real and what's fake anymore. It all seems like a troll. I mean, I don't know so much from the Trump side. You know, he's talking about policy. Vance is out there and talking about policy. I think Vance today said that

illegals, people who are here illegally need to pack their bags because they have six months. I'm hoping that's not just campaign rhetoric. I have a feeling it is, unfortunately. I don't like to black pill.

I'm a realist when it comes to politics. It just doesn't, hardly any of this seems real anymore. You know, and I thought Elon Musk, We had a really good point when he posted some video on, it was a video of Kamala. And he said that he's like, I can't tell if this is real or not.

He's like, what's real anymore? And I really have to ask that question now is really what's real? I remember Joe Biden a few years ago walking up to a podium outside of a plane. And he put his hand on the podium and his hand disappeared into the podium. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, well, what's real? Are these people, are these people even real anymore?

Yeah, and now it's like mainstream people are picking up on the fact that there's probably been four or five Bidens in the last five years. Because, I mean, unless his facial structure changes and things like that, I mean, I'm not the biggest conspiracy theorist in the world because I think that people can get caught up just making their whole life about conspiracy theories and most conspiracy theories, you're never going to find the full truth of them.

So you just try, it sounds like you're trying to act like a special boy where I know something that other people don't know. But it's, I think it's something that you have to look at where it's like, okay, how much of this is real, how much of this is actually happening? the only thing that I can know that's real is if I know somebody who's there and they tell me

what happened. So, yeah, I don't even know. You watch something like that, the Kamala Tim, the Kamala Walls thing that was on Twitter. And that doesn't even look real to me anymore. I just, I don't know. Why was it even produced?

Well, because they had to answer Trump. They had to answer Trump and Elon Musk having an interview on Twitter. And Elon Musk invited said, hey, I'll interview her. And no, they had the very, very straight Midwestern man Tim Walls interview her instead. Or it was some kind of conversation or I don't know. Pst, did you know? Those Black Friday deals everyone's talking about. They're right here at Beacon.

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Or you know, fight Brenda. So she has not subjected herself to a press conference or a cross-examining, you know, type of journalistic questioning or anything like that. She's turned down, she dropped the September 4th debate with Trump, but she has time to produce these sign-fellings. El-esque videos with her running mate about nothing, right? They're, you know, they're talking about nothing. It's like Jerry and George in the apartment talking. And you're the fourth wall. And you're supposed to, you know, it's, again, it is what is real.

And it is if politics becomes more of a show, you can see a situation where people can be switched out the same way that, and between season three and four or four and five of bewitched Dick Yorker's switched out for Dick Sargent and then no one after well no one really cares because it's just a TV show well politics is kind of like that because obviously doesn't matter

that much when your political class are just puppets for oligarchs and don't in the donor class and so obviously some of them like a Kamala Harris she has no conviction she has she'll do anything that her donors

that her managers tell her to do. It's admitted so much. This was admitted by Joe Biden's defenestration, where one week he's sharp as a, you know, attack, he's in control. He's not mentally, he's not mentally incapacitated. Next week he's gone. And they're talking about the 25th Amendment.

And everyone stops, what about all those claims prior that he was fine? It was obviously wasn't. Now it's just forgotten. what's real. It doesn't matter. And how about everyone who covered up for him?

If he is incapacitated, he's still the President of the United States, how about the entire administration, his staff and handles that are covering up for him, including Kamala Harris, who claimed that he was fine. Obviously, he was never fine

during his entire presidency because it was clear in 2020, he was descending into dementia. Brett Hume talked about it before the election. It's obviously that he's he's not all there. He's getting, he's getting weaker mentally,

and these things don't get better, and everything, and it hasn't with him. So, yeah, so it can be fake, because they're not the, they're not the ones calling the shots. Camilla Harris isn't thinking about Ukraine and thinking about the situation in Palestine, and what should be the right policy,

isn't meeting with their national security staff, listening to experts in making the tough decisions. I mean, it's, that's where we are now. Everything is fake, at least at the managerial level, political or political class. Well, yeah, I like the term fourth wall because, you know, it really just goes to show properly understood that, you know, we the people are always the fourth wall when it comes to politics is, you know, they go about their business and they ignore us.

And it doesn't matter that we're there. And, you know, the people who are directing them say, don't look at them. Don't consider them. You can't see them. And yeah, I mean, I just like the fact that I hope more and more people are starting to understand that, you know, right now we don't have a president. And the country is just running itself. And that's part of the managerial revolution where we've gotten to the point where it just, it's the managers in charge. You don't even need a president.

You don't even need a Congress. I mean, all of this could disappear, and that managerial state could just keep everything going. I mean, it was perfected in the 2000s. I mean, in the 2000s, you still had some CEOs of companies, big companies that were like engineers in the field of the company, you know, were experts in what the company did. And now they're, if you can find a company that the CEO actually,

can do or can explain in detail what the company does and what it is and what it produces and what it manufactures and can even break down chemical composition of something that they manufacture. I mean, that's just an exception that proves the rule. And that's exactly where we are in our politics as well. Our politics now is just this machine that just keeps going forward and you have 400, and 335 people and another 100 that are there to whenever somebody, whenever one of the special interest groups that's in that managerial regime needs money, they come together and vote on it. And whether they vote yes or whether they vote no and they rarely vote no will

depend upon, you know, how much money they've received from that special interest. So what did I hear today that like 50, 50% or 75% of the FDA's budget is funded by private corporations. So, yeah, so what exactly do we have? We don't really have a government. We don't really have, we don't have a private sector when it comes to really big business and industry. We have nothing. We have a machine. And what we're seeing on TV when it comes to Harris and Trump, I mean, Harris and Walls is this is exactly what those people want to keep running the country because these are the kind of people who won't do anything. They won't interrupt that process. They want that process to keep going. They're scared that Trump and Vance and

you know, this new rising elite that they actually want to change things, that they actually want to, you know, throw a wrench into the gears. And that's why you're a CEO, you see all these fake poles. You see, I mean, these poles are so fake, it's so obvious that they're fake. And then you have, like, guys who know what we do, you know, on our side of the things who are buying into them. And I'm just like, didn't we see this in 2016? The guy. gamblers picked every, like, presidential candidate since, like, the 1980s until 2016. On the day, on the morning of the election at 2016, the gamblers had Hillary Clinton as a winner. And then as the day went on and as polls came in, you saw it change and it went

and swang for Donald Trump. It was the first time they had gotten it wrong. Now, you can say, well, they'll just fortify the election again this year. I think it's hard to rob the same bank twice. They could try. I've seen some numbers in some states that looks like there may be fortification going in the other direction, that there may be people on the Trump side of things who may be doing some things. I've seen a lot of Democrat voters dropping off rolls, and I'm seeing Republican voters

skyrocketing, especially in Pennsylvania. So, I mean, I don't know. I think that there's, we have a machine that just has the only people who are in charge really are the people. The only people who have any real say are the outside special interests that have implanted people into that machine. Then those, that machine gives money to the people who just do this performative vote on it. and the president is just supposed to be there. I mean, we've had a senile president for the last four years. So I think the real fear is that, you know,

these Silicon Valley elites that are rising up and seem to be surrounding Trump, you know, signaled by the J.D. Vance being picked as vice president, that they're really, really scared that there actually might be someone who will come in there and actually try to change things. And, you know, my friend Tom Luongo says, he sees all of this, he sees them, and he says, I don't think they'll ever allow Trump to get into office.

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Don't they have like an abortion van driving around offering? Well, from what I understand, well, there's a van that's doing vasectomies. And then from what I understand, they're supposed to be handing out abortion pills. But then I saw something on Twitter today that made it sound like maybe 25 abortions had been performed, which it just seems odd to me. I mean, people just found out that they're doing free abortions and decided to show up, not out of the realm of possibility. I tend to look more at the vasectomy kind of thing and just be like, well, me, considering when you look at someone like Tim Walls, anyone who would go there to support someone like Tim Walls,

I mean, I'm not going to argue with them neutering themselves at all. I might actually promote it. But one of the comedians there made a point, he said, with Kamala Harris, this is finally someone who just completely empty vessel. I think it happened with Joe Biden because he was just a, you know, already suffering from dementia. But this is, we're reached with Kamala Harris.

If they install her as president, we've reached, you know, sort of dystopic science, science fiction Philip K. Dick novel dystopia because she's just nothing there. And it's what the system wants with her. Well, she's also, she's an alcoholic, obviously. She's drunk often. So, I mean, it's really, it's just TV. It's just, you're in the realm of fiction now because, I mean, that's something that, you know, you would expect to see on VEP or something like that.

Yeah, yeah. And, well, you kind of alluded to it. What is this, this preventing Trump from getting back to office and what the, you could say the coalition or forces behind Trump that you say this might represent what's called a circulation of elite. the changing of the guard, if you will, trying to nudge the corrupt, very insular, corrupt,

and deranged elite from a, I guess I'm from a cohort or a group of elites who are more sane, have more grounded in reality. And this goes to elite theory. Do you want to talk about, sort of, I guess I just talk about elite theory

and the myth of populist politics and how it applies to the 2024 election? Yeah, I think populism is just, it's useful, it can be useful in small areas. It can be useful in a state. It can be useful in a city. For national politics, the only thing I think populism actually does is it signals to elites,

which way the wind is blowing. So they know that if they go too far, if they push things too far against what the, what the populace is willing to put up with, they risk revolution. And that's one thing that they don't want. And what elite theory basically says is that there is always going to be a small group that's running things that, you know, a hundred well-organized people can organize better than 350 million. You can't get 350 million people to agree on anything.

I mean, think about it. We have how many different cultures we have in this country, you know, Zachary in Salt Lake City. who was raised in the church there really doesn't have anything in common with Chip from, you know, who was raised in Manhattan. You know, and went to, you know, went to Rye Country Day School or something like that. So basically what elite theory says is

there's always going to be this small group that's calling the shots, but it gets to a point sometimes where the elites just aren't impressive anymore. They can't keep a handle. things get out of control and a new group of elites see an opportunity and they basically go into planning to take out the current elites that are there. And this has happened all throughout history. I mean, we know this. I mean, you can sometimes it's in the form of a coup, you know, like let's say Chile, 1973.

If you think that it was Pinochet, that was the one who like orchestrated that whole thing, well, you're, you're an idiot. And it wasn't only the CIA, either. The CIA helped, and then he told the CIA to go screw themselves. I've read the CIA file. They hated him. I have a CIA file here, actually.

So you have this group of elites, and I think that there is a group right now that is prizes sees that the future is going to be technocracy. They're already in that, in that industry.

And they see everything, DEI, potential like taxing of unrealized capital gains. Yeah. All of these, they see all of these things as a threat to them, And mind you, I would say an existential threat, not only to them, but to us.

And they're stepping up, and I think that they've aligned themselves behind Trump. And that's who Trump represents. Now, can they get in there and displace the current elites? Can they drain the swamp, which is basically what they're going to have to do, what he promised is doing in 2016? they're going to have to go in there and drain the swamp as going to be really, really, really hard.

But I think there are some people who definitely are going to give it their best shot because they see that if it doesn't change, that their vision for the future, their self-interest is

basically gone and destroyed. Well, they would have to, I guess the mechanics of this would have to be figured out. One thing is they'd have to like, as you kind of alluded to, is working towards a fortifying the election in their direction. And they'd have to maybe resort to some of the things that Molly Ball wrote about, Time magazine in February 2021 or March of February, she bragged,

pretty much the election was engineered or taken from Trump using different methods, organizing, polling. I haven't even praised your theory. A pint of Inking, please. That could be the sound of someone winning a UEFA Champions League trip for two. What's that now? Well, order a pint of Heinegan and you get entered into a draw for a Champions League trip for not one but two people. 100 pubs and a guaranteed winner in each one.

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easier theory. What if the same people who are fortifying it now for Trump were the same, were the people who who behind the scenes were working against Trump in 2020? What if Mark Zucker, what if Mark Zuckerberg gave that $400 million to fortify the election because somebody who was a big Trump fan supporter told him to? maybe some people didn't want Trump to get elected because they realized it would be four years of the same thing

but if you let Biden get in there and absolutely destroy everything and make a mockery of the country basically then in four years they could make it they could actually make their move while they're doing things behind the scenes and you know they could even

not even worry about midterms because the midterms don't matter. But you're just concentrating on 2024 while you're drawing up a plan behind the scenes for what you do, your first 48 hours in office, which would drastically change the face of the government forever. How is this different than like a cue? Well, because, I mean, it's, a theory. I mean, I'm not saying, well, because I'm not saying that I was on Air Force One taking

pictures. I'm not saying that I was working in the Trump administration doing this. No one's, yeah, no one's saying that, you know, oh, this is just a theory. This is, this is just a theory. What you, what you did, what you do see, though, is that in the last four years, the country has, gone to shit under Biden. And there are a lot of people who want Trump back. And let's face it, Trump also is, he's weak. He probably was bankrupted. And then DJT is released,

and all of a sudden, in a matter of 48 hours, he's wealthy again. And somehow he's being kept out of jail. I mean, I don't think anything, this upcoming, he's not going to be sentenced to jail. It'll be sentenced to time served,

whatever, find, yada, yada. And then the whole narrative will be that, are you going to vote for a convicted felon, something like that? I mean, this is just a theory. This is just the theory I have. But as far as, like, there is a group of elites,

that are making a move right now, that's undeniable. They're saying it on Twitter. I mean, Mark Andresen has said it on Twitter. Well, I've read articles about the PayPal Mafia, and often they're just reading up on it,

and most of it was very critical. But I was like, well, what do you think they're going to do? Of course, they're organized and defend their interest and to see things happening, how does it any different than,

you know, Sheldon Adelson or Bernard Marcus or Paul Sink. banker only the Democratic Party or bankroll and the Republican Party in terms of Sheldon Aedelson and getting what they want, you know, getting the political class to do their bidding. This is just another group of billionaires who come from a different. Shellman Edison's gambling, Paul Singer's vulture capitalism, but our market is retail. Now we have guys from Silicon Valley, whoever. It gets you could argue they hold a strategic choke point in terms of information, technology, and AI, which I, I think,

heard you talk about it is an important thing because AI is a wave of the future and you have to maintain your competitive advantage against places like, you know, countries like China. And so that could be the source of their power, you know, the same way that finance was a source of power. But things did appear to go off the rail just not in terms of policy, foreign policy, but even rhetoric with all the transgender nonsense and sanity, it was almost designed to provoke a response. It's almost the same way, you know, the same way that revolution is like, you know, the same way that the radicals or the, um, the Republican forces in Spain in 1930s, whereas almost they're just a provoke a response because they'd gone too far. And it's, it just, it seems things have just gone too far. And having an unfebled president like Biden and an administration and chaos would be very helpful for those who are organizing in the meantime to, uh, state some sort of counterattack or some sort of, uh, or some sort of, uh, uh, you know, a coup, if you will, or a maneuver to achieve the reins of power, oligarchic power in our country, you know, from the previous, I guess you could say,

cabal, you know, the current cabal. Well, you know, what, you know, I have a friend who says, you know, like the PayPal Mafia is like, he just describes them as they're the new robber barons. They're, where do they make their money? Most of them made their money through the government. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, these are people who basically fleece the government.

And back in my libertarian days, I would have said, oh, I think that's horrible. I think they're just tax feeders and their welfare whores and everything. But no, if you want to build the world you want to see, you do it however you need to do to do it. And when you understand that, you know, coming out of the Cold War,

that the country is just stagnant. My friend Thomas always says that the military, even today, is just built to fight the Cold War. They couldn't fight. Like, they would be going through the same. The American military would be going through the same thing on the ground in Ukraine that Ukraine is going through right now. They have less than, like the Army has less than 30,000 men who,

men who they can throw into a meat grinder. they'd be gone in a in in ukraine terms they could be gone in three to three to six weeks so basically what they saw was i think they just saw that everything was falling apart and the government wanted nothing to do with them these are people who very intelligent people who 50 to 70 years ago the government would have went to them and said we need you to work for us because you know we want to strengthen this country want this to be the greatest country in the world and we need your minds working with us, you know, have various Manhattan projects going on, whatever. And they didn't do that. The government just decided, no, we're just going to, we're going to

have this war against Islam. And, you know, well, I mean, they're goat farmers. We don't have to come up with insane technology to beat them, not technology like Russia has now, where they have, you know, hypersonic missiles that we don't have. And we have the ability to make those. We don't. And I think, and another thing I've seen from these people is, is, you know, the Project Gundo, which is Elsa Gundo in California. Every once in a while, they have a weekend where they get together and they just, like, build military technology. And it's all these, like, 20 to 25-year-old kids who, you know, read the Austrian painter and are, like, yeah, we need to, we need to do things to make sure this country,

you know, this country is safer in the future. And you have like the last, the last gundo event like this in that, just in that weekend, like a drone technology that they had never seen before was invented in that weekend. This is, this is stuff that the government should be doing. And you hear these guys, people like Mark Andreson and David Sacks. Yes, I know David Sacks is Jewish. Okay. I have a lot of these guys are Jewish. Okay. We're still under occupation. We're going to get away from this, okay, people. But, you know, it's which at this point, it's like, well, which regime do you want? Do you want the one that is into chopping off body parts, you know, chopping off kids body parts and putting in jail, you know, women, old ladies who are

praying the rosary outside of, outside of abortion clinics, you know, in jail for the rest of their lives and the judge laughs about it, or these people who basically want to change the government and make the government run like a corporation. And yeah, for their own benefit. But I mean, I look at people and I'm like, I think that pretty much most of the deep state and the people who are in charge, elites in charge hate me, you know, and would, you know, would love to see my demise. And these people seem to be like. Like, whatever. I mean, people say,

O'Ulon, most wants to put a chip in your head. No, he doesn't. When that rolls out, there'll be people lining up around the corner asking for that. He's not going to worry about people who don't want it. I mean, that's just retarded. That's just you're playing off of your black-pilled, your black-pilled history of everything,

every kind of fantasy that you're living out in your head. And, you know, I just see these as people who want to be able to pursue their technology and everything, and they see the government getting in the way of that. They also are really worried that China is going to get ahead of us in AI and quantum computing, so they want to have the reins of power or have their friends have the reins of power so that they can make sure that China doesn't do that, because in the future, probably most war is going to be electronic.

chronic. And, yeah, I think that I don't know that they're my friends. I don't know that they would like me or take a phone call. Those people who love going out shopping for Black Friday deals, they're mad, aren't they? Like, proper mad. Brenda wants a television and she's prepared to fight for it, if you ask me. It's the fastest way to a meltdown. Me, I just prepare the fastest way to get stuff and it doesn't get faster than Appliances Delivered.aE. Top brand appliances, top brand electricals, and if it's online, it's in stock. With next day delivery in Greater Dublin. Appliances Delivered.com.e, part of expert electrical. See it, buy it, get it tomorrow. Or you know, fight Brenda.

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and um some of them are very sympathetic to us but um at best a government that would just be indifferent to me is miles ahead of what we have now. Yeah, a better, in this case, maybe the devil we don't know is an improvement? Well, we know what we're going to get with this one. I mean, they're telling us what we're, we're just going to get more of the same. I mean, we'll get the, you know,

everybody makes this thing about J.D. Vance said we have to punch Iran in the mouth. Okay, what does that mean? What does that mean? Does that mean he said go to war? I've said that we have to I've said some people need to be punched in the mouth Was I being serious? Was I being Oh, that person definitely needs to be punched them out

Someone needs to walk up so then make a fist And then punch them in them out Or just You just have to make sure that they know that you're serious Iran right now has military technology I just interviewed Larry Johnson on my show He's on Judge Napolitano show all the time Iran has military technology

That is beyond ours right now And anyone who is like, that's, that doesn't make Persian, you're telling me, you don't know that Persians are some of the best scientists on the planet. Why do I think they're assassinated? Yeah. I mean, they have military, they have missile technology that can change, that can change direction in air. Like, do 90 degree turns. Well, necessity and avoid. The necessity is the mother of progress.

They've had to develop us to survive in that area. given their adversities. And Russia. Yeah. And Russia, you know, they have a lot of the anti, the anti-missile aircraft that, that Russia has developed over the years. The, I can never remember that. I think they have some of the S-400 anti-missile systems.

Russia has S-500 and S-550, which is S-550 space-based. So they don't have that one. But yeah, they have like S-400, which can pretty much take. and everything. And then when you study the topography of Iran, this is why I tell people, I'm like, war with Iran, I believe this is all K-Faid. Anybody who studied the topography of Iran knows that no one's going to war with Iran. I mean, they had to basically like plan out an assassination well in advance just to get into Iran. The only way you're going to beat Iran possibly is with nukes or with just firing every missile

you have at them. You're not going to have it. Where are you going to stage a war from Iran or from Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia and how long those sorties would be? I mean, this is just,

to me, it's just, this is people talking out of their ass. And I'm not the only one who, I'm not the only, experts, agree, don't agree with me, but they echo, you know, what I say.

And I thought this before, I thought this, years. They talk about going to war with Iran. No one can go to war with Iran. Iraq couldn't go to war with Iran. And they're right next door. They couldn't beat them. Because there's, because the mountainous terrain there, and where Tehran is, which you'd have to take out, where it is located in the country, makes it almost impossible. You'd have to, the closest thing you'd do is stage from Turkey. And Turkey is already talking about attacking Israel, and I thought Turkey was a NATO ally. I mean, isn't Germany a NATO ally too?

And we blew their pipeline. Well, didn't someone say this week that they had evidence that Zelensky did it? It was Ukraine that did it. Well, that's the same. Well, yeah. Same thing. Same thing. It's all Zog.

Yeah, he's an aspiring member of NATO. but that would mean that obviously would do it on his own. You'd do it with supportive NATO in the United States. But the idea, again, again, and of course, I have to think that Iran has prepared themselves, you know, themselves with, you know, putting everything underground. Because they've had 25, 30 years of Israel talking about going to war with them. So they've probably prepared for this, you know. That's probably right. Break out nuclear technology as well.

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Yeah, and that's probably right about Underground because I've heard talk out of Israel where they're saying that they need, they have these nuclear they have these small tactical nukes that penetrate underground and that's what they're talking about in relation to Iran so yeah

I would think most of their stuff is underground and then you have all that technology that's hidden behind mountains I mean it's and of course that would be a nightmare the only reason why the US would even think of waging war against Iran would be on behalf of Israel which raises another question

why bother why is this a concern of the United States If you look at a map, what conflict does the United States have with Iran? It's Israel. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. So there's nothing.

Yeah. Iran has done. Iran has done nothing to us. People want to talk about, oh, what about the, what about 1979 when the hostages? Yeah, 45 years ago. And basically, why did they do that? Because 26 years early, you overthrow their frigging government. And by the way,

And install the puppet. At the time, Jimmy Carter called the 54 coup, a ancient history. And I was only... Yeah, you know, people, these people don't seem to understand that these Muslims, they have a very low time preference when it comes to revenge. But, again, it's because of Netanyahu.

in Israel that we somehow it's why Lindsay Graham is always bang for war and it's Iran and our Congresses and this talk and that's even why J.D. Vance is to say those things because he's Israeli lobby APEC and all that.

And that's just right now that's just the reality of who controls things in Washington, an occupied government. And so that we're just not quite there yet to take that group on directly.

Well, I do think that from, I know people who, like I said, as soon as I started looking into this PayPal Mafia thing, like back in February, my friend Matt told me about it. I immediately started, when I started talking about it, people started reaching out to me and going, yeah, yeah, this is right. And, you know, I've had people say reach out to me and be like, I'm not going to say who these people are because I don't have permission and they wouldn't want me to. I'm in a private, I've been a private group chat for years with Mark Andreson, and you should hear the way he talks and, yeah, stuff like this. Well, this is, yeah, short of an overall collapse, you know, of the American Empire, whatever that, however you envision that, or what kind of transformation, United States would go, we're experienced under a crisis like that. This is how I think if you look at politics and history, how you'd expect it to go down as opposed to a populist uprising, a storming of the capital. You know, and declaring, you know, a, you know, a heritage American or white republic, right? That's not going to happen.

But it would, something like this scenario is how it would kind of play out in the real world because you'd have competing interests who want to, a powerful interest, who have a stake in the game and who aren't happy with the current regime and they want to take over the regime. And so you get a shorter civil war, you get this kind of maneuver. But the mechanics of it, you mentioned, which I've heard kind of, well, allegedly part of Project 2025, which came out of the Heritage Foundation. So how radical could it be? Well, I've heard some, I've actually heard some things about some people on the board of heritage that are a lot more radical than the people you actually see. but, you know, that's yet again to be determined,

and I have, like a 3% chance, maybe something will happen. But that type of maneuver, sort of a, I can say, sort of a night of the long-nives type maneuver, if you're going to stage a coup, you get rid, make that friend- enemy distinction, if you will. And, okay, this, we're going to, we're going to pull it off here, and you purge everybody and your arrest. A good example is 2020 during all the George Floyd riots,

which Governor Walls and Camelis were complicit in encouraging it. If there ever was anything approaching an insurrection recently, that was it. It wasn't January 6th. It was it. And the insurrectionists weren't just the rioters, Antifa and BLM. It was the people who were encouraging it, and also who were in a position of authority,

who are supposed to deal with that, the maintain law and order who stood down and encouraged the rioting. for political reasons. That would include Governor Wals and his wife, who claims she opened the windows and imbibed the odor of burning tires, it was somehow uplifted by it all. And that's the type of people dealing with. I would have liked to see Trump arrest all the people for not acting as interactionist. That didn't happen because I don't think he had the soldiers to do it at the time, although legally I think you could have justified it. That type of maneuver. And It's this type of maneuver that becomes necessary when the Republic becomes so corrupted and becomes so, you know, basically doesn't function properly. And you have to get rid of those enemies. Identify the enemies, identify the friends, and deal with it. And we're rapidly approaching. I think we're already past that point in America.

We don't longer have rule of law in this country. Not even a, they don't even give it lip service anymore. And so something like a Project 2025 or an executive war maneuver to purport. the state department or CIA or FBI of tens of thousands of bureaucrats would be an effective maneuver. I just don't know how to determine, you know, all the people around Trump who would install, re-installment office, have that determination organization and plan to do it to carry it out. Yeah, I mean, that's the question is, isn't it? What I've been told by some people is that people in the know is that they,

almost have to do it. Even if it weren't for ideological reasons, for financial reasons, that the country is in such dire straits that they're going to have to cut labor. And when you look at the, like the

executive branch, I think outside of the... 2.8 million outside, you know, not including the military. Yeah, that has to be cut. That has to be drastically cut down. So you're... it's not even

is this going to happen? I don't know. But, you know, the realist side of me says no because, you know, it's just, you know, you're just being hopeful. But, you know, I can also, I can be hopeful and not be disappointed because I'm an adult and I'm not an emotional idiot.

You know, and I also, you know, grew up in the 80s when we were hiding under desks because, you know, we were planning for bombs to be a nuclear, bombs to be dropped off. So, you know, and also I'm, you know, probably twice the age of most of the people who listen to your show. And I don't take any prescription medication, which a lot of them probably do. So I'm not, I actually have a very realistic look on life. I can be hopeful and hope something happens and not be crushed if it doesn't.

Because in the end, I know it's all up to me that I have to do for myself. but, you know, is it going to happen? I don't know. But, you know, from what I've been told is if it doesn't happen, like just the firing of people, then financially won't be able to go forward that it's going to take a big hit. And as far as, like, people, yeah, I mean, the biggest signal that you would have of real change happening is people arresting, using, you know, cleaning out the Justice Department, putting in their own people, and then launching these gigantic investigations into things that happened in the past and things that

hurt people. You know, there are people like walls are responsible for billions of dollars of damage. The loss of life of up to 40 Americans, as far as I know. by encouraging this and not shutting it down as soon as it started it started in Minneapolis. If they would have shut that down with an iron fist, I don't know that it would have caught on

in other states. I think people would have, in other states, people, they may have hesitated to do it because we also know that this is orchestrated. I mean, bricks,

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Let's not have monkey trials. Let's have real trials where there's investigations. You know, we've talked about how you need to send a whole bunch of people. people into offices of the State Department and just say, you know, if there's 20 people in that office, tell 19, you're fired. And you have one person there and you say, you sit there. And then after the 19 are gone, it's like, open up all the files. You're going to help us open up all the files. Or you're going to be with those 19 people. And, you know, that would be a, that would be a start. is that going to happen in the next four years if Donald Trump is elected?

Most likely not. Maybe, but, you know, it's like I've been saying, maybe some wall can be torn down that we can walk over, climb over, and be able to have a little bit of breathing room for the future. Maybe people will start to have hope again. Maybe it won't, I'll release for, you know, conservatives and Republicans and maybe they'll

try to push Trump to do to do more and to defeat his enemies I mean that's basically what this is about because when you look at his first term his first term was proof that the president doesn't have any power

because he never had any power oh but he had tax cuts okay great you know why this tax cuts passed because the regime in charge didn't care about them. They didn't mean anything to them. They don't care. What did he do that actually changed

and reduced the power of the administrative state? Absolutely nothing. As a matter of fact, the administrative estate got stronger and stronger and stronger over that four years. BLM took in $10 billion, I think, maybe up to $20 billion, and all of that money went to Act Blue.

and the regime just got stronger and stronger and stronger. Best thing that could have happened was Donald Trump lose in 2020. Because who knows where they could be now? If they just have this common enemy that they've been fighting going headlong for against for eight years and just who knows where their coffers would be right now. But instead we got four years of feeble Biden. A lot of people's lives were just. destroyed terrible war in Ukraine, terrible exit from Afghanistan.

This is real bullshit. But, I mean, who knows what, who knows if that assassination temp doesn't happen a whole lot sooner if Trump is reelected? It's amazing how that just fell off the radar screen. The media just dropped it, you know. Well, here's the thing is. is that right-wingers constantly, their job, when I say right-wingers, I mean conservatives and Republicans, and I don't believe many of them are right-wing.

But their job, and they know it, is to react to what the left is doing. So if the left isn't talking about the Donald Trump assassination, they're not talking about the Donald Trump assassination. That's the way politics works in this country, especially when it comes to the Republicans. And, you know, the people on the ground, not the, you know, not the Republican Party that's barely different from the, than the Democrat Party.

Yeah. You're, you're, if Joe Biden would have, or Kamala Harris, were constantly talking about bringing up the assassination attempt, conservatives and Republicans would be talking about. But since they're not, and all they ever do is react to what the regime is doing, it falls off the map. You know, I think I've only seen one ad that I know of, and I don't look at all the ads, where Trump is, where that's even been, where footage from the attempted shooting has been

in one of his ads, only one. So, yeah, it is rather. they're interesting. But when you understand that all conservatives and Republicans are a reaction to the regime, whatever the regime is talking about, then it makes a lot more sense.

Well, the Spanish Civil War. That's quite a segue. Well, you've done a lot of shares on the Spanish Civil War. It's one of these things that I think Mitchell, I've caused a situation where the losing side doesn't write the history on that event, meaning that Franco prevailed over the forces of the so-called Republic, which had been totally taken over by Stalinists.

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live tournaments than ever before on Sports Extra. Jampack with rugby. Phew, that is a lot of rugby. Get Sports Extra on Sky for 15 euro a month for 12 months. Search Sports Extra. New Sports Extra customers only. Standard pressing applies after 12 months for the terms of play. And Spain became a liberal democracy. Great. Well, I mean, for a lot of those years, they were a NATO ally. Yes, they became NATO and all that. Now, but what sparked your interest in the other than just general view of history? Like, what this latest string of shows on the Spanish Civil War? Was it inspired by current events? Is there something that reverberates or echoes in the Spanish Civil War that tells us something about our the current crisis, or is it just a historical fascination or curiosity you have? I think it started off as a historical fascination.

You know, my dad's side of the family came from Spain through Puerto Rico. And so I wanted to know more about me, but they left long before, long before the war started centuries ago. So what you hear about it, right? you hear about this guy, Franco. And Franco is either like the worst fascist ever or he's this hero.

So I'm like, all right, well, I need to find out myself. So I started asking around and ask someone, tell me a book to read about it and everything. And someone said, The Last Crusade by Warren Carroll. And he's a Catholic historian. He's written Catholic histories

of the French Revolution, the 1917 Revolution. history of an author, engaging, very engaging. And I started reading it, and when you read about the war itself,

starting in July 1936, and it goes through to 1939, you're like, wow, this was hell, this was basically hell on earth. Well, if you want to dig further, you want to find out how did this start. And when I found,

out how it started, that's when I was like, oh, so when people talk about our quote unquote empire here, people want to say, oh, it's like Rome, or oh, it's like this, it's like that. And the more I looked at what happened in Spain, it was like, no, I think it looks a lot like what the Spanish Civil War was. And basically what it was was, it was a war against faith. this is a country that was a Catholic country for, I mean, the better part of 16, 1700 years,

even longer. They, they were taken over by the Moors in 7-Eleven A.D. They fought a reconquista for almost 800 years to get the country back. The only thing that kept them, held them together was their Catholicism. When they got their country back, They kicked certain groups out of the country and then had a golden age for, you know, almost 200 years.

Spaned the globe. The sun never set on the, uh, on the Spanish empire. Spengler calls it, you know, the greatest political, you know, the greatest political empire in history. Well, in the, I would say in the last 1,000 years, the last millennia when he was writing. And it got, it came down. down to the point, to a point where enough of the French Revolution and socialist communist influence had infiltrated. And what makes it very interesting about Spain is, is that

there are a lot of autonomous zones that basically get to rule themselves. And they infiltrated the autonomous zones. So socialism is growing here. You had one communist, uh, one communist union that had almost a million people, and this is in the early, in the early 1930s. And you have revolutionaries who are, you know, basically calling for the destruction of the church. As early as 1931,

churches are being burned down. Catholic churches are being burned down. Priests are being abused, beaten up clergy is being abused. And they, There's a reaction to this where a more conservative leader president is elected, but he's driven out out of the country by revolutionary forces. And in 1936, the election is held, and the Republicans are elected to office. And when you hear Republican, you immediately try to apply that to American politics. And that's been the propaganda ever since, is that, oh,

A Republican, a Democrat-Republican form of government was elected in Spain finally, and then these fascists rose up and overthrew it. No, these Republicans were Republicans in name only. They were radical leftists, and they allowed the communists and the anarchists in the country who were rabidly anti-church to take over. And I looked at that, and I'm like, huh, this point in time in this country where faith was important. Faith, you know, the founders wrote about it,

said that only people of a certain moral character could even be, you know, could even deal with being a part of this polity. And now we're at the point where, you know, you can't pray outside of an abortion clinic, that a Catholic is a, um, is considered an enemy of the state. And then you look at the Spanish Civil War, and the first thing that they started doing

when they got power in early 1936 was burning churches and executing priests. And I was like, oh, this is what they'll, if these people ever get absolute power here, this is what they'll do here. So, one people, about, you know, what does this look like?

What does the fall of this empire? Well, this empire is not, falling. I mean, it will eventually. It won't look like this, you know, probably 50 years from now, but it'll probably still be around another 100, 200 years. I mean, when you study the history of Rome, the Roman Empire started falling long before it actually fell. It takes a long time sometimes, especially with technology now. Who knows what the hell can happen? Didn't they still refer to as Republic anyway? Long after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I look at the Spanish, Civil War and I see, well, it's basically the forces of satanic anarchists and people inspired by

the Bolsheviks who decided that they were going to, their plan was to kill half the Catholics in Spain. They thought that if they killed half the Catholics in Spain that the other half would come to heal. they would see their way. But in the span of in 1936, from July to December, 1936 was, I think it was 4,400 to 600 churches burned. But in the thousands, three to four thousand, three to four thousand priests, nuns, seminarians, altar boys, anybody who was overly devout were executed in the streets and in seminary. and in ditches for being Catholic. So, you know.

At that time, to be Catholic, to be Spanish was to be Catholic. Oh, it's, you, even if you grew, even if the only time, even if you went to church twice in your life, to be baptized and to, like, bury your mother,

you still were considered, you, you identified as a Catholic. It was part of being Spanish. vanish. And they sought to erase that. And they, these people said it. We are going to erase this from our history. No one is ever going to know Spain was Catholic. So sounds familiar though, right? I mean, it's like, this is never a kid. This was never a Christian, a Christian nation. There was never this wasn't formed by Christians. They were all deists or they, you know, this was an idea.

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Get the facts. Be Drinkaware. visit drinkaware.aweer. This was a preposition. Yeah, it's because America itself is sort of schizophrenic nature is baked into its cake, I guess you could say, because it is a product of enlightenment,

a Freemasonic, even, you know, the product of the Reformation, but mixed in with Christianity. And so you have that, you know, and you had liberalism, which made it very vulnerable for infiltration, which occurred in the, late 19th and 20th century

with the when the Jews came over from the parallel settlement droves and started their slow. Even the German Jews who were here already and had been here for decades hated them.

Yeah, the Aust, the Austrian, they called them. But that was a very important, I guess you could say, not just a demographic change, but a political, cultural change. coupled with the rise of technology, mass communication, coupled with the American system,

which again, as John Adams said, our system of government requires immoral people, and it cannot operate outside that. And when you have a group of people dedicated to promoting immorality, because of sort of as Nathan Abrams said, an atavistic hatred of Christianity, you cause a system to unravel what we're confronted with today. and the you know I guess we're into the third decade of the 21st century is completely unraveling the system

because immorality has been promoted systematically. The system has become totally so corrupted. And a lot of that is the infiltration of that group. Hollywood, media, entertainment, finance, everything is but it is funny to look at Spain,

Spain, the sort of backwater Western European country in 1936 becomes internet, national spotlight and it's almost becomes a vortex for all the ideological conflicts of the of the 17 18th and 1920th centuries uh well and probably understood it properly understood it was a world war well you yeah that yeah just before the outbreak of the second world war you also occurs during the Stalinist purges which uh i think explains a lot of Stalin's behavior regarding uh how he handled he handled the left in spain there are tons of purges

you know, a lot of this was the cover. He would, uh, so that, that fact, he, Stalin also uses it as preaches to steal all the spades gold. Where Franco, Franco was able to, because Franco maintained a strong expert market and maintain credit and

maintain the currency. Uh, whereas the Republic, uh, they could buy, they pretty much bought all their military hardware with the gold reserve that they have. And it was of,

uh, questionable quality, whereas Franco was a great military man. He understood maps. He was, he wasn't i mean he was very religious devout catholic but he was also necessarily uh least reportedly a very cold individual

meaning he was very rational kept his calm and he knew it had to be done and of course a lot of people say that makes him cruel but he also made him a good leader he wasn't uh vain nor was he greedy um and he was devoted to spain as a catholic country he was almost a medieval character that's why they you say he hated politics yeah he's a dictator

dictators, hey, pauses. Wasn't that, Franco was sort of medieval an outlook, which means he was a Spaniard. And if you buy into the myth of liberalism, enlightenment, you'd say, well, he's backwards. Well, that's the progressive myth, isn't it? Meaning that we're constantly move forward. There's nothing in the past to learn from. We don't refer to the past. We just constantly move forward.

There's a magazine to that effect. It's called progressivism. And it's the idea we're unburdening ourselves with the past, as Camel Harris might say. beginning going to go to circle back our first conversation but frank it was a man of another century and he didn't he he wanted to go back to pre-1914 and um i and i certainly sympathized it with him considering the disaster that unfolded in europe between 1914 and 1945 you know sure yeah he there are reports that he went to mass every day um a lot of people will say you know there's no way he could be a Christian considering how, you know, that he was a soldier, he was a warrior,

he persecuted people, he persecuted people who committed atrocities during the war up until I think in 1959. Good. He was still going after people. And you know, it's like, well, and but, you know, Catholic, you know, a lot of Catholicism, but, you know, most of Christianity has become so well, they persecuted people who didn't modernized. They persecute people who committed no crime. today there's a 99-year-old lady in Germany who was at the prison for the rest of her life for being a secretary at Auschwitz. Yeah. You know, so. Yeah, I mean, you have to hate yourself.

See, that's the thing is, you know, if you're a Catholic, if you're a Christian, you have hope, you have, you're tied to something. You're not allowed to have, these people don't want you to have roots. You cannot be, you cannot be someone who believes in something. because if you believe in something, you can't believe in what they believe. And even though what they believe changes constantly, you have to be willing to change with them. And if you don't, then you are their enemy.

They see you as their enemy. Anyone who would think to, you know, live historically, talk about their ancestors, where they came from, to know that, to cherish, family, you know, a family land that, you know, possibly you could have a cemetery on, you know, where your great, great, great, great grandparents may be buried. Well, this is just theft. You didn't work for that. And all that is, that's just sentimental crap. This has nothing to do with, with their progress, with their march towards the future,

which literally means nothing when you break it down. It kind of. constantly changes. They'll be past the trans thing soon, and they'll move on to something new, and they'll just condemn the trans people. They'll just become an annoyance to them or, you know, an enemy to them. And these are people they don't have, they don't have anything. All they have is this wants of control. And they just, that's it. They use this constant where you, March towards perfection. Because you're born, you're tabula rasa, you're a blank slate. If you are, if you believe something about your family and that, oh, you know, maybe the Anglo-Saxon people or are the only one suited for, to live in a freer kind of Republican, democratic kind of society.

No, the only reason you have those opinions is because your evil parents put them there. You can never come to that on your own. You can never come to you. Why do you care about your parents? And this is, I've had them say this to me. That, you know, the family structure is oppressive. I've had people who call themselves libertarians say this to me. And it's, then you realize it's like, no, they just, they hate, they hate any.

who could possibly look at them and judge them for whatever kind of anti-human activities, anti-Christian, anti-whatever activities that they want to participate in. I'm very suspect now of somebody who says, you know, their individual liberty is the most important thing to them. I think your family and your in group and those who you share culture with, those are the people you need. That's the only way you can protect that is by coming together with like-minded people. That starts with the family. So when I hear people who just dismissed a family out of hand,

a family unit as something that's like an anachronism, it's like, well, you're anti-human. You, how do you plan? It's like these people lining up to get vasectomies from in a truck in Chicago this week. I mean, I promote it for them because those are my enemies. Those people are my enemies.

Anyone who would go to that, go to that convention, go to visit that truck. They're my enemies. I don't want them to have kids. I don't want them to have a future. Also, I can't live with these people peacefully. No. I can't live with a governor.

I can't live with the Tim Walls peacefully. You guys are perverse. The things that he has endorsed his entire life. And like you said, individual liberty, it has a function, but it's not something you worship because true freedom is living right with God and the moral law. Because if you don't live life with the moral law, you're a slave to your passion. in your appetition and you're enslaved, you're not free.

And basically, it's living in accordance with God and with a look towards eternity. And if you look at what matters to, most people would what matters to me would be, not me, it would be my family, my children, my wife. It's not me. And when I say that means that what matters to me are my responsibilities and obligation. It's not my liberty. Because the fact that I'm obligated and responsible for these people mean I don't, have liberty per se

how they mean it. I have to live up to the responsibility. My time my energy is claimed by somebody else and only through that you have a fulfilling and meaningful life. You know, working you just, when you have a family, you just fall into that because you have to

and you realize, wow, look, almost most of my life is spent producing and providing for other people because that's a meaningful life because that's how you not only do you recreate the population

you you maintain the population that's how society functions that's how civilizations live on you know and this idea of Linderigial liberty this atomistic attitude when no one sacrifices anything around it

but has anything ever get built then who would ever plant a tree for Pete's sake in that situation It's also how cultures live on And it's also how your faith moves forward. You know, it's like, I don't want to get, I'm not attacking Protestants who, like Baptists who are against infant baptism. But that's one of the points of it.

I mean, as Catholics, we have a certain thing, we have a certain belief about what baptism does. But there are sects of Protestantism that baptize infants and what it, And it's not a saving to remove original sin, but it's a sign that they are going to raise their child and continue them in this line of faith. And that's, I mean, you don't make any generation of course. We'll. You build on it. You build on it. You know, that's, but yeah, and getting back to Franco is if Franco, he, he sought, he sought retribution and revenge if you.

you will for some of these people because he saw what they did and he wasn't he wasn't feckless and this is why he was so um why for a while someone like a lenin or Stalin will get better coverage in the mainstream media than Franco when Franco spared Spain Stalin by by not being factless we're doing what had to be done given the conditions which the left created in Spain the left created those conditions they're the ones that started the violence and brought in the, which brought in the military. Similar thing happened in Chile in this 1970s. You know, we had a leftist government elected under plurality of votes and then it started carrying out a radical agenda. When you have a plurality, you, you should govern moderately. But they had, they got the reins of power and they wanted to

impose their rule. And they went overboard and they got burned. But it is an incident where the Victor didn't write the history books because that event was caught up, you know, it was, you know, was basically, it was bookended by the, you know, First World War or Second World War. And it's a lot of people see it as sort of a testing ground for the Second World War because of the participation of the Italians and Germans in that conflict. And the Soviet Union. And well, okay, I can see that. But then the narrative coming out of the Second World War, any attached run or aid that Franco got, you know, from the fascist,

from Italy or from Germany would have been marred by the narrative of the Second World War, which imposed what you, I think you and Thomas referred to, and it's very actively is sort of the Nuremberg regime. And there's a dispensation with that, and we're supposed to think certain things and draw certain conclusions and characters within those events have certain roles. They're villains and those good guys, that sort of thing. And Franco came out on the bad side, even though he kept his country out of the war. he was seen as a recipient of aid from Germany

and this is why you hear about the bombing of Guernica and Picasso who was always supported by Jews as a lousy art paints the bombing of Guernica and we see that in banks and book covers we don't see there's very few paintings of like cathedral's being burned down and nuns being raped and priests being disembowed or you know it's a narrative you know

well and as time has gone Guernica has become more clear that it wasn't a you know that a lot of the people were a lot of the people were killed by retreating forces things like that the bombing wasn't as bad most people go to um look at Thomas for that Thomas I think his name is Hugh Thomas the books but you know Stanley Payne who's written books more recently on the Spanish Civil War as more more things have been translated out of Spanish because most of the best writings on the Spanish Civil War are still in

Spanish. They haven't even been translated yet. But as more, you start to realize that Guernica was a, yeah, sure, it was a bombing, a bombing of a civilian city, but it was no different than any other war, any other bombing. And listen, who are they?

I'm sorry, but the, okay, is the left going to condemn the bombing of Granica, when they carried out Dresden and Hamburg. Oh, no, but those were right-wingers. No, the allies were right-winger. They were right, okay, right and left, okay, yeah.

Well, you know, and that's another thing is, is that the reason why people think the Spanish Civil War was a bunch of fascists beating up on some freedom-loving, you know, would-be Americans, is because the left controls the narrative. And when you see the... There are some people on our side who hate when I use this term,

so I keep using it. When the good guys win, like in Spain, or like the... like Hewack and... Executing the Rosenbergs, who absolutely deserved it. Or Pinotche,

in 1973, when it's always, oh, it's fascists. Fascists, fascists were, it's just these freedom-loving people, these people who are doing nothing,

and these right-wing fascists just rose up, and they, for no reason, they just started killing people. It's like whenever the right can't win. And you're never going to, until this Nuremberg regime, until this occupation,

of the west of Europe and the United States and all its satellites ends. Trying to get a right-wing, a true right-wing victory narrative. It's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen. Because we don't have any control over who writes that. You know, thank God for people like Stanley Payne, who has been heroic in writing the real history.

People like David Irving and John Toland writing the real history of World War II. And very few, there's only a couple. I think I've only one book that is actually sympathetic to Pinotche. But hopefully we'll be able to get some more of that. Hopefully, you know, soon we'll have some great books to be able to read about these, you know, great achievements of defeating communism. Because, you know, Franco famously said at the beginning, when he took over as, as Cardio, over this as Generalissimo, he said, where I am, communism will never exist.

And until the day he died, wherever he was, communism didn't exist. and that is a if you are going to do that in the century that you know Thomas calls you know was just this one long dialogue with communism you have to have you have to have balls of steel and that that five foot four spaniard and they must have been dragging the ground yeah didn't they disinterum yeah yeah he was in the valley of hero and they disinterred him. And I think Primo de Rivera was there too, and they disinterred him too. And now they're looking to tear down the statues there. And I was just informed today about some Spanish priests

who did have a video on YouTube, talking about how they were trying to save it. And someone comes out with me and said, do you speak to me? I'm like, no, I was raised to be it. I was raised to be American and speak Spanish in my house. But our buddy Jose Nino, he's going to try and reach out to them and talk to them and maybe do an episode in Spanish and hopefully translate it to see what's going on there. And yeah, so Spain just, Spain like everywhere else, has just fallen to this just absolute, you know, I hate to call it a mind virus because that makes it sound.

no we just have to find we just have to figure out what the cure for it is and unfortunately we know what the cure is and that's the thing that gets most demonized in the in the 20th century yeah and again he kept this country out out of the second world war

his participation on behalf of Germany would have made a difference anyway but during his reign Spain enjoyed modern economic growth increasing standards of living and also a growing population. Now it has a declining population. High birth rates, high church attendance,

and the republics declared, I guess they have a constitutional monarchy created in 1970s just after his death, and in comes liberalism, and then the country is just decaying now falling apart. He also was, you know, some people who were being hunted down for, you know, taking part in a certain army in World War II.

People like Leon de Grell, he took them in and protected them, made sure that they weren't dragged away and put up, you know, put in front of a kangaroo court and hung. So, yeah, it was. I understand that. The bad I can did that, too, kept on the reps. It wasn't the rat line, per se. It was just the understanding that it was a neutral cover. country and it actually saw itself as sort of being a sort of an island of compassion

and during that war and during the end of the war they helped a few people escape retribution because they understood kind of understood it was going on at that time yeah yeah it's the more that comes out about um the Nuremberg and the dockout trials yeah i mean the public the public's not going to learn about this and have this big uproar and you're going to have this big, you know, revival and everything. It would be somebody with some power and money would have to seek to expose what those trials were all about and how basically, I think, 137 and 139 people interviewed or interviewed, quote, unquote, for the trials had genital mutilation. for Nuremberg and just exactly what that was. Yep.

Well, Pete, I don't think we covered it all. Thank you. We're going to end on general mutilation. Can we talk about something else? Yeah. What can we talk about it? I guess in this age of transgenderism and everything that is probably, probably a appropriate. Yeah, that's now a human right. It's gender affirming. Actually, you just say 137 and 139,

I guess, defendants at the DACA trials, the NERBURRT trials, received gender affirming care. Yeah. That's heroic. Heroic. It's heroic. Wonderful. Was it brave and was it, what's the term? Something in brave? Stunning and brave? Stunning and brave. I'm sure there was some stunning going on there. Oh, well, yes. Again, that's a very hard. I've talked about that. People just aren't willing to accept that because it goes to the narrative.

Didn't, I guess we went off then. It didn't also, wasn't the experience of the Spanish Civil War that drove Orwell from the left? Yeah. Yeah. Orwell went there to fight with the, to fight with the anarchists. And he got there and was like, oh, wow. These were a bunch of murderous savages. These aren't, these people aren't even human.

and he went home and he went home after the war and yeah had a turn I think he tried to publish about I think Victor Galance who ran the leftist book club wouldn't publish it or something at the time that's just disillusioned him

yeah and he wrote I guess you could say what 1984 an animal farm and all that's you know and 1984 was he just inverted the numbers it was actually about 1948 England what he saw in 1944 in England be coming.

Eric Blair, George Roelmane Plum, yeah, Eric Blair. So that's what, and again, his experience in the Spanish of Roars that drove Eric Blair, aka George Oral,

from the left and inspired those books that so many people refer to now. So again, more significance of the Spanish Civil Reverberates in our time. Did they still have kids read 1984 in high school? I don't know I don't know

I don't know I don't even know if 1984 is it seems more like considering the how big pharmaceuticals have become that Brave New World

is probably closer to where we are right now yeah we moved that combination I remember 1984 I remember the Apple ad you were the

oh yeah I remember that I remember that I remember having to read 1984 in high school. So it's, yeah, I guess we've moved, I guess it's more brave new world than 1984. Although during COVID, I thought they might go back to 1984 model again. Or at least try to combine the two. So, hey, we didn't end it on general mutilation. Awesome.

Thank you. That's great. Pete, so follow your show. tell people support following yeah Piquino show and petesubstack.com and check out the old glory club me and some friends of mine who

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Excellent. Thanks, Pete. Thank you, Sam. Appreciate it. Bye-bye.